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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Sahadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick. It is

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Speaker 1: a mail bag episode. As usual, the listeners the fans

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Speaker 1: have stepped up and delivered some good questions. This team

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Speaker 1: is playing really well. They are twelve and three fifteen

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Speaker 1: games into a twenty one game stretch against bad you know,

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Speaker 1: sub five hundred teams.

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Speaker 2: Do you call them bad? They're bad? Yeah, the Reds

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Speaker 2: aren't historically awful, but they're not like a good team either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. They didn't dominate the Rockies maybe like some people

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Speaker 1: would have liked, but they won all three games. It

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Speaker 1: was windy and kind of, you know, not beautiful days

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Speaker 1: at Wrigley Field. This week. The Cubs grind out some wins.

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Speaker 1: You know, you want to see him beat up on

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Speaker 1: these teams they want. That's all that matters. Nobody's gonna

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Speaker 1: care if they wont fifteen to one or two to

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Speaker 1: one at the end of the day, or at least

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't. And I think I said this at the

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Speaker 1: beginning of this stretch of games. I mean, even against

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Speaker 1: the White Sox, even like they don't look like they're

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Speaker 1: playing their best baseball at times. But all that matters

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Speaker 1: is get through this, get wins, get healthy, improve the team.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about potential ways to improve the team on

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Speaker 1: this episode. I think that's all. That's all you can really,

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't you don't want what happened. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about this a lot, what happened in twenty three

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Speaker 1: when they lost games like this that they should be

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Speaker 1: winning and it cost them a playoff spot. Just getting

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, you know, that's the bottom line. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: always have to be what was Madden's saying, It doesn't

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Speaker 1: that they're not all oil painting.

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Speaker 2: Yes, our buddy John Greenberg referenced that this week Joe

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Speaker 2: does have those perfect sayings to you know, you'll throw

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Speaker 2: that one in Lake Michigan. They all can't be oil

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Speaker 2: paintings things of that nature. So, yeah, it did not

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Speaker 2: come to that against the Rockies. It's going to be

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Speaker 2: a long season for them. I'm just a totally anonymous

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Speaker 2: roster with almost very little to no traveling media, you know,

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Speaker 2: just bizarre.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, tough season for them, all right, let's get let's

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Speaker 1: get to the questions. Kate Horton has looked good so far.

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Speaker 1: His ceiling is a top of the rotation arm. What

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Speaker 1: does he need to do or change to go from

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Speaker 1: good to great? This is from Ryan Foley. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he needs to change much. I was really

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Speaker 1: impressed by his last start. I know it's against the Rockies.

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Speaker 1: We just talked about it. But through that change up

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Speaker 1: more he gets like he threw the curveball a little

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Speaker 1: bit more. He doesn't. He's not as much as he

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Speaker 1: may have been a two pitch pitcher in the minors

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Speaker 1: this season. I don't think that's purely how he is. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the fastball and the slider are the pitches that you're

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Speaker 1: going to hear about the most. But the change up

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Speaker 1: looks pretty good. And just you know, I think I

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Speaker 1: said this about him kind of being dropped thrown in

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Speaker 1: this softer landing the rest of the way for about

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Speaker 1: three four starts. Okay, go beat up or get build

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Speaker 1: up your confidence, whatever you want to say. Against against

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Speaker 1: lesser teams. I think what he needs is just more experience.

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Speaker 1: I think he's got all the ingredients and maybe leave

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Speaker 1: a you know, a fewer of those sliders like in

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Speaker 1: the heart of his own that seems to be what

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Speaker 1: kills him the most is far too often when he

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Speaker 1: gets hit, it's like a slider that he's hung.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that was exactly what I thought when I read

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Speaker 2: this question of he just needs innings. And if you

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Speaker 2: go back to you know, even in high school, he

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Speaker 2: was a very decorated, you know, multi sport athlete, recruited

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Speaker 2: Uh you know, I'm sure he learned from it, and

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Speaker 2: the Cubs learned from that in terms of building out

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Speaker 2: this season, but it was not the innings sort of

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Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting that Craig Council this week

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Speaker 2: That's one of his buzzwords. You know, Councils aren't as like, uh,

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Speaker 2: bebopping and scatting during his media sessions, but Counsel used

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Speaker 2: that in praising Kyle Hendry rics Justin Steel has a

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Speaker 2: lot of those similarities and Horton is not there yet.

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Speaker 2: But you can see the way he carries himself. You

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's been around enough to say

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Speaker 2: you know, I don't know if he's going to have

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Speaker 2: as far as like a really promising, interesting player with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just don't. I would never feel comfortable predicting

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Speaker 1: greatness for a picture, you know, It's just it's really

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Speaker 1: hard to know. Nobody. I don't think we expected Justin

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just quickly looked it up Treek's Scooble

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Speaker 1: expected this from Darik Schooble. So there's it's really hard

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Speaker 1: And it seems like when as at least outside from

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Speaker 1: analysis is wrong, it's more just like they get waylaid

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Speaker 1: by injuries. There's so many names I could go through.

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Speaker 1: The guy with the Guardians. I believe it's Daniel Espino.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know where he is, but he was

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Speaker 1: was asking about innings. Is there an innings cap for

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Speaker 1: Kate Horton. We've talked about this a little bit Patrick.

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Speaker 1: We've written about this as well. Teams don't look at

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think Garrett Crochet is a good example

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Speaker 1: from last year. You cannot you don't measure it by

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Speaker 1: it's something I guess it's a crude way to monitor things.

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Speaker 1: that's how they how they measure these things more than

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Speaker 1: just innings or pitches thrown. You know, you're seeing how

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Speaker 1: their stuff is holding up over a start, over multiple starts,

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Speaker 1: in their bullpens. How fatigued are they And yes, there

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Speaker 1: Harris has hurt, you know, Sarah's has heard about all

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Speaker 1: these things. But there are certainly different things that they

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Speaker 1: and that they that they look at that they want

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Speaker 1: don't know. They have to admit that to themselves. There's

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Speaker 1: no perfect science here, so to restrict someone, you know,

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Speaker 1: I like, since we're talking about Madden, Madden had this

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Speaker 1: push Arieta in that two thoy fifteen season. Yeah, twenty

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Speaker 1: you shouldn't you shouldn't push him this many innings rest him.

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Speaker 1: I think Madden's philosophy was like, we don't know, we

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Speaker 1: he did get tired out by the end of that season,

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Speaker 1: but it was still I thought it was interesting and

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Speaker 2: I believe the quote in general, and it was more

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Speaker 2: of Joe's saying that there's definitely something to that. I'm

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Speaker 2: just surprised with Horton, Like if you kind of map

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Speaker 2: steeper learning curve. This is like they they need to

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Speaker 2: when when Showta gets healthy, yes, I mean a sad

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Speaker 2: because right now they're stretched very thin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally agree that. I mean Horton has become

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Speaker 1: like it's not it's not like, oh, he's just here temporarily.

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Speaker 1: I think you know they're gonna have to lean on him.

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Speaker 1: That's kind of what's what's happened here. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: All right, Patrick, we know there is going to be

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Speaker 1: plenty of trade deadline chatter. The Cubs are good, they

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Speaker 1: are in it, their first place team, and they have flaws.

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Speaker 1: We can all see it. They need pitching, pitching, and

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Speaker 2: When I asked counsel that you know, it's four to

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Speaker 2: They're probably gonna break down anyways. You know, get what

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Speaker 1: It's a simple approach. It's really hard to execute though.

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Speaker 1: It's simple sounding, but it's it's not like they suddenly

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Speaker 1: decided that this is how they want the offense to behave.

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Speaker 1: They've been preaching it it's just hard to execute. You

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Speaker 1: get a guy like Kyle Tucker, things start to fall

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Speaker 1: in line. They have a few other guys that have

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Speaker 1: done this. It's just when you have to add a

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Speaker 1: and now say Suzuki becomes the third best bat or

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever you want to wherever you want to

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Speaker 1: rank them. He went from he needed to carry the

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Speaker 1: offense and be the star of the offense to maybe

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Speaker 1: the third best bat in the lineup. And that's that's

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Speaker 1: when you have this scary offense that can do anything,

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Speaker 1: score in a multitude of ways. And and you know

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Speaker 1: when even when they're slumping, find ways to kind of

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Speaker 1: grind through and win games. It's it's certainly been entertaining

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Speaker 1: to watch and and this is I'm not sure we'll

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Speaker 1: see if it lasts all season long, but even twenty sixteen,

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Speaker 1: it was pitching in defense, the offense was good, especially

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Speaker 1: those first that first month and a half when they

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Speaker 1: got off to that insane start. We'll see how long

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Speaker 1: this can last. But it hasn't even been great weather

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Speaker 1: at Wrigley yet. I think hopefully that's coming. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if, but good weather exists anymore, but I believe

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Speaker 1: it's coming. So we'll see, we'll see what this offense

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Speaker 1: looks like, because right now they're just kind of I mean,

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Speaker 1: they're they're good at home, but the numbers are much

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Speaker 1: lower at home. They're they're good as far as how

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Speaker 1: how they're performing at Wrigley compared to everyone else at Wrigley,

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Speaker 1: But it's just it's kind of crazy how this is

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Speaker 1: kind of happening again. But it's not the summer yet,

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Speaker 1: so I'm not going to assume it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a weird year again at Wrigley. All right, Matt Shaw,

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Speaker 1: this is this is an interesting one. It looks like

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Speaker 1: Matt Shaw is ready to stay now. Did the twenty

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Speaker 1: four games he spent to triple A impact his long

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Speaker 1: term service time at all? Yeah, he doesn't. The Cubs

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Speaker 1: don't get that prospect promotion incentive if he wins Rookie

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Speaker 1: of the Year or gets MVP votes. You know, I

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Speaker 1: MVP votes aren't isn't happening. But if he stays like

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Speaker 1: how he's performing right now, I wouldn't be shocked by

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Speaker 1: him sneaking into the Rookie of the Year conversation, and

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Speaker 1: even winning it, especially when you're on a winning team

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Speaker 1: and on the Chicago Cups. That's how you you know,

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Speaker 1: you get your name out there. And I wouldn't be surprised.

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Speaker 1: So now they they could lose that. I don't know

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Speaker 1: all the there's there's some other rules though where if

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Speaker 1: he finishes somewhere he gets he gets that service time though,

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Speaker 1: right they like there's something about winning an award where

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Speaker 1: you where you don't lose that year of service time.

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Speaker 1: But they have gained a year of service time potentially here.

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Speaker 2: Leave, yeah, I mean what I got here is major

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Speaker 2: league season consists of one hundred eighty seven days. This

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Speaker 2: is from melb dot com. A players deemed to have

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Speaker 2: reached one year of major league service upon accruing one

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy two days in a given year. Obviously

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Speaker 2: twenty four games, he's roughly a month in Iowa. He

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Speaker 2: would not reach one seventy two, so you would be

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Speaker 2: looking at him Cubs almost having seven full seasons of

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Speaker 2: control over him. Also, like we'll see once the CBA

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Speaker 2: expires after the twenty twenty sixth season, Like are they

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Speaker 2: going to play in twenty twenty seven? Then twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: eight like, what what is the landscape going to look like?

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Speaker 2: Not to be super alarmist, but at the moment, it

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Speaker 2: does look like it's going to be six plus close

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Speaker 2: to seven rather than just straight six and hitting free agency.

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Speaker 2: I guess. Also, I don't have any information about this,

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Speaker 2: but speculatively, I don't know if he plays like this,

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Speaker 2: how well they like him or how much they like him.

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Speaker 2: I should say, like a contracts extension at some point

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Speaker 2: isn't like totally out of the question either, so that

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Speaker 2: would certainly impact it. And he's playing like a guy

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Speaker 2: who looks like he'll be at Wrigley Field for a

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Speaker 2: long time, which I think is ultimately everyone's big takeaway here.

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Speaker 1: So I'm seeing something here that says, if you finished

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Speaker 1: top two in Rookie of the Year voting, you are

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Speaker 1: awarded a full year of service time. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: how he doesn't that's the only way that happens. So

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Speaker 1: the Cubs don't get the bonus draft pick. Then if

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Speaker 1: this happens for him as well, I think he just

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Speaker 1: deserves love for how how good he looks too. We

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Speaker 1: can't ignore how he looks like a different player. Uh,

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Speaker 1: the Cubs deserve some love for recognizing that he needed

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Speaker 1: to go back down. I think this is you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a there's probably some Craig Council impact here

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Speaker 1: where where he understands, hey, uh, some changes need to

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Speaker 1: be made. Let's have a conversation with the guy and

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Speaker 1: get them get them right. And he failed, and he said,

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Speaker 1: failure is probably the best teacher. Failure can be good

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Speaker 1: for these guys. Uh, And it's and it's helped the

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Speaker 1: organization the player a lot of credit here because they

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Speaker 1: identified what was wrong. They didn't, yes, they desperately needed

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Speaker 1: a third basement, but they didn't try and force the situation.

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Speaker 1: They fixed it. And it looks like they may have

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Speaker 1: found a solution to what how many weeks ago? It

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Speaker 1: wasn't that long ago that you and I were having

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Speaker 1: conversations like, how do they fix this major issue? This

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Speaker 1: is a pretty big flaw on the team. Now you're

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Speaker 1: now the quot uestion is just purely ad pitching. Ad pitching.

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Speaker 1: He's got a one on one way to runs great

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Speaker 1: at plus he's been great since. And the defense. I'm

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Speaker 1: just kind of blown away at how good the defense is.

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Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see how long the offense lasts.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna hit a slump they all do. Uh, but

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Speaker 1: but he looks like he's a major league hitter. So

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Speaker 1: props to him. Props to the organization for helping him

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Speaker 1: get right and for him buying in and coming back

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Speaker 1: and impacting this club in the middle of a race

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Speaker 1: here as they head into a summer. That's you know, critical,

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Speaker 1: all right, Patrick, that is a mailbag episode. Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for everyone for sending in your questions. We always

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. We'll we like doing these episodes and you

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Speaker 1: guys help us do them and make it easy. Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for listening. This is Northside Territory. Make sure

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