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Speaker 1: we have a shade guy? The shade is jammed. I

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Speaker 1: can't pull it down. I have the wrong kind of light.

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Speaker 2: Don't you like it when it's sunny there?

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Speaker 1: I don't like it when it's too bright. I went darkness, dimness.

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Speaker 2: I can't help you there.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't it doesn't work. I pulled both chains.

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Speaker 2: Don't do anything more because they could fall on your head.

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Speaker 1: Oh. I was jerking it real hard because it wouldn't move.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm sure somebody will be in there in a

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Speaker 1: I'll come look at the break. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's anything you do. It seems like somebody's

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Speaker 1: lighting now throws me off. I don't think I can

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Speaker 1: go on. Oh no, if I was a famous actor,

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Speaker 1: you could pull that right. Yes, you could just say

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Speaker 1: all right. I have more weird airline stories in front

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Speaker 1: of me than I've ever seen before on a single day. Like,

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Speaker 1: I have endless numbers of airline stories, and I just

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Speaker 1: don't even know which one to do first. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you one thing, though, I will explain in the next

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Speaker 1: segment why some of these are occurring. Because the Wall

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Speaker 1: Street Journal did a really good story, specifically what goes

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Speaker 1: wrong on the Boeing production line. You're gonna feel so

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Speaker 1: They actually know that was a sarcastic Okay, uh no,

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Speaker 1: there's a reason. It's it's not just there's why why

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Speaker 1: they they you know what, and they know what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: It'll all make sense. Meantime, we're gonna have Alex Stone

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Speaker 1: Latam Airlines Latama stands for Latin America and it was

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Speaker 1: they don't have an explanation for it. The pilots are

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Speaker 1: saying that their gauges went blank. That's comforting, yeah, really

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Speaker 1: so they couldn't even tell you what happened because I'm

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Speaker 1: starting to wonder about sabotage here. There's just too many

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Speaker 1: of these going on. Now here's a quick rundown, and

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Speaker 1: a lot of these affected United Friday, United Airlines flight

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Speaker 1: You remember the United Airlines flight that lost its wheel.

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Speaker 1: None of the animals injured. They were coming from most

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Speaker 1: there's a billion dollar lawsuit against Boeing in Alaska for

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Speaker 1: the door that blew off. Now, when we come back,

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Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal did an excellent story explaining why some

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Speaker 1: of this is happening and the production I should I

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Speaker 1: describe it. The production process at Boeing is this, Just

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Speaker 1: to sum it up in a line, if something goes wrong,

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Speaker 2: The plane stop people's lives.

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Speaker 1: Well, it was specifically, we knew the overall thing was

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Speaker 1: they don't care about safety as much as they care

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Speaker 1: about making money and keeping the production line going. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's the priority. So in order for that to happen,

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Speaker 1: Dad of the Year got into a crash with his

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Speaker 1: Show on Demand, the podcast. All right, well I just

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Speaker 1: happened in there? A Boeing plane flew by, Doc, another

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Speaker 1: wheel came crashing through. Fixed it, Yeah, yeah, you took

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Speaker 2: But but now it's dark in there.

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Speaker 1: You got your with okay? Good John was brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Boeing. Well we'll continue to the Boeing commercial here,

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Speaker 1: all right. So Wall Street Journal had this great piece

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Speaker 1: we knew, but a lot of it we didn't know.

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Speaker 1: So that door that blew out early January, it months before.

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Speaker 1: It had spent three weeks shuffling down an assembly line.

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Speaker 1: The way it works is there's a different crew that

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Speaker 1: it had bad rivets. It came out of the other

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Speaker 1: It looks as if it doesn't exist. This They have

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Speaker 1: That's what happened here. You guys are forgetting They all

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but this has been standard practice for

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Speaker 1: Somebody forgot. So here's how they're changing the incentives instead

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Speaker 2: Oh Jesus, well, never mind, insensitive.

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Speaker 1: God. All right, we've got we've got more coming up.

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Speaker 1: I have a sex story for you.

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Speaker 2: A sex story.

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Speaker 1: Oh, John, No, no about that.

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Speaker 2: I watched Poor Things last night speaking of sex anyway, Yes,

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's whale sex.

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Speaker 2: I'm not excited to hear about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh? If I did, Eric, after I tell the story,

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Speaker 1: app The John Cobelt show. You know who's coming on

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Speaker 1: whale lice. So one of the whales had had some

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Speaker 1: it's known as an ectoparasite, and that whale was covered

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Speaker 1: second whale. So the whale with the lice was struggling

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Speaker 1: the whale pinned the other one in place with its

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Speaker 1: fins and started mating.

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Speaker 2: With it with the lice.

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Speaker 4: One.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, some guys have no standards.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I guess when your horny, you're.

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Speaker 1: Thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: Thirty minutes.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that is a talented whale to keep that going

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Speaker 1: for thirty minutes. And then the whale dove off and disappeared,

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Speaker 1: and the whale who was the receiver, he plunged underwater.

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Speaker 2: Oh, it was too much for him, probably exhausted.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the twist, and this is the first time

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Speaker 1: that scientists have ever seen this. Both whales were male.

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Speaker 2: I had a feeling you were going to say.

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Speaker 1: Despite decades of research on humpback whales around the world,

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Speaker 1: reports of penix penis extrusion by males are relatively rare.

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Speaker 1: And this is the first report of a penetration by

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Speaker 1: a humpback whale and the first report of sexual activity

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Speaker 1: between two male humpback whales.

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Speaker 2: Should it get confused because of the whale with the lice.

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Speaker 1: Threw them off? Uh? Well, I mean they are called humpbacks,

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Speaker 1: so I guess this was going to happen the uh

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Speaker 1: and so now this is this is like a scientific

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Speaker 1: sensation because they they never considered that there was such

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Speaker 1: a thing as gay whale sex. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: that had anything to do with the lice. These whales

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Speaker 1: are huge and uh it says in the animal kingdom,

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Speaker 1: mail on male sexual activity is relatively common, but it's

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Speaker 1: never been seen with humpback whales. Now there are gay walruses.

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Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: Gay gray seals, Amazon river dolphins, bottlenose dolphins, killer whales.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot there's a lot of a lot of

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Speaker 1: sex going on in the ocean, and uh, they're trying

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Speaker 1: to figure out why. The interactions can range from learning

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Speaker 1: or practicing reproductive behavior or establishing or reinforcing dominance relationships.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 2: So maybe that one whale noticed that the other whale

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Speaker 2: was sick. He wanted to say, Okay, your time has come,

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Speaker 2: so now I'm gonna do this for a half an hour.

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Speaker 1: And that's going to happen an hour. And he was

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Speaker 1: like he was sitting on top of the whale. Wow,

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Speaker 1: for half an hour. Also, wait to it may be

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Speaker 1: for a reduction in social tension. You know, you do

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Speaker 1: feel relaxed, But thirty minutes, it's a long time. One

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Speaker 1: researcher said, it took our team several years to document

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Speaker 1: similar behaviors with harbor porpoises, and this is now a

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Speaker 1: new window into their mating habits. So they said, I

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Speaker 1: guess he could be practicing.

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Speaker 2: On another guy for the real thing. So the real

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Speaker 2: thing with a woman, Okay, wants to make sure it's perfect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's uh oh, it says here the injured whale

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Speaker 1: appeared to have a blow to its jaw. It might

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Speaker 1: have run into a ship, which caused the animal to

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Speaker 1: suffer for a long time. Oh, that's awful decline in health.

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Speaker 1: That could explain the lice and its reduced mobility. So

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Speaker 1: that second whale took advantage of an injured sick whale

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Speaker 1: who couldn't fight back.

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Speaker 2: There needs to be a consequence for that. Jail whale

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Speaker 2: for whale jail.

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Speaker 1: Put them in whale jail, they said, They said they

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Speaker 1: could see this behavior conductive between healthy whales. But this

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Speaker 1: is unique, that the healthy whale took advantage of the

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Speaker 1: sick whale. And it probably doesn't feel bad about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, we come back Alex Stone about the latest

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Speaker 1: flying anomaly involving you guessed it, Boeing. This is Onlatamairway

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Speaker 1: Airways going from Sydney to Auckland, and this was not turbulence,

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Speaker 1: but the plane just suddenly dropped five hundred feet in

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Speaker 1: a matter of seconds and anybody not buckled in they

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Speaker 1: slammed their heads hard into the roof of the plane

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Speaker 1: and thirteen people had to go to the hospital, ten passengers,

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Speaker 1: three crew members. Alex Stone will tell us about it

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