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Speaker 3: It's a fabulous fight song Friday here on Nicks.
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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. Welcome to another edition of mix Shots
Speaker 3: on what is a fabulous fight song football Friday. Inside
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Speaker 3: football field with shorts on today.
Speaker 5: We've got Mickey Spagnola, the star of the show.
Speaker 3: We've got Everson Walls, who's just helping support Mickey in
Speaker 3: any way that.
Speaker 4: Any way that I can. I'm here for Mickey. We
Speaker 4: are and here we.
Speaker 6: Go and one of the Everson Walls, one of the
Speaker 6: sixty semi finalists for.
Speaker 3: Breaking Breaking News right off the time, he's in the
Speaker 3: top sixty.
Speaker 4: Oh man, and you know what.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be as excited about it this year if
Speaker 7: it wasn't for the fact that I didn't even get
Speaker 7: a sniff last year. And that was kind of surprising
Speaker 7: because I have people who kind of out there fighting
Speaker 7: for me.
Speaker 4: Everybody's got their own little camp.
Speaker 7: And the guy in my camp, AND's no secret, Gary Myers,
Speaker 7: he was ready to fight for me last year. Okay,
Speaker 7: after we get through this, then we're gonna have this
Speaker 7: going on. Man, we didn't even get to that. So
Speaker 7: I'm like, wow, that's disappointed.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't understand why it changes year to year. It's
Speaker 3: not like you have any fewer interceptions or more interceptions
Speaker 3: and nothing else.
Speaker 4: I can do from here, right, I don't know.
Speaker 6: Maybe vix shots is not good enough. You need to
Speaker 6: get on TV.
Speaker 7: Well, if they don't know about me now spags out.
Speaker 7: Damn where have they been? So, you know what, that's
Speaker 7: a thought. With all the young reporters out there nowadays,
Speaker 7: all the guys like myself, we get changed more and
Speaker 7: more pushed to the back.
Speaker 6: Well, it's a good thing that they have a separate
Speaker 6: committee for the seniors. And ever since among Cowboys, Ralph
Speaker 6: Neely had too tall, Jones, Harvey Martin, Leroy Jordan, and
Speaker 6: Everson Walls.
Speaker 4: That's a nice little crew. I take those guys with.
Speaker 6: There's a lot of guys on that list that I
Speaker 6: was a little surprised that they were not Hayes. Where
Speaker 6: was the It was a linebacker, Tommy Nobles.
Speaker 3: He was pretty good Atlanta, Texas.
Speaker 4: Long walk was he? Yes? Wow?
Speaker 8: And I'm.
Speaker 3: High school in San Antonio.
Speaker 8: Wow. And I'm surprised by this one because.
Speaker 6: I'm surprised by this one because I think every Steeler
Speaker 6: player who played in the seventies is in the Hall
Speaker 6: of Fame.
Speaker 3: El C.
Speaker 8: Greenwood, the late Eli, the late Elsie.
Speaker 4: He's a Black College Hall of Fame inductee.
Speaker 7: I was on the board to help vote him in
Speaker 7: back in the day when he was still alive. One
Speaker 7: of those sharpest dresses you ever want to be around.
Speaker 7: And he was pretty iconic, So yeah, you would. He
Speaker 7: walked around as if he was already in the Hall
Speaker 7: of Fame.
Speaker 4: I can tell you that much.
Speaker 3: So you thought Lester Hayes was already in well like
Speaker 3: he and his thirty nine interceptions in his career, sticky hands,
Speaker 3: He and his thirty nine interceptions in his career.
Speaker 5: Yeah, eighteen, fewer than someone in this room right now.
Speaker 3: Crazy had fifty seven interceptions in his career.
Speaker 4: Did he have a more than one super Bowl?
Speaker 6: He?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 3: Two times super Bowl?
Speaker 4: Two times super Bowl?
Speaker 10: Yes, yeah, that's right from the mascot bill for Almo Heights.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, the mules very nice.
Speaker 4: Wow, you.
Speaker 8: Knew that, so I'm talking about mules.
Speaker 4: Well, I guess it's kind of hard to forget that
Speaker 4: if you ever know it.
Speaker 3: That's the hard part.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 8: Uh, what about Jim Plunkett, What about him?
Speaker 3: Well, he's on that list. Yeah.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 7: The problem that you have with the old versus the new,
Speaker 7: well older versus not so old, is the numbers back then.
Speaker 8: But yeah, you can't do that.
Speaker 7: You can't, especially with a quarterback. When you start talking
Speaker 7: about the numbers that they have. It was a matter
Speaker 7: of the importance that they had to that team to
Speaker 7: that era as well, and of course super Bowl wins
Speaker 7: always goes with those guys that were thinking about from
Speaker 7: the past, from the way past. Plunket two times super
Speaker 7: Bowl win as well. You that that matters as much
Speaker 7: as his numbers. Uh, Joe Namath, You know, you look
Speaker 7: at Joe's numbers, you know, compared to now, there's no
Speaker 7: comparison to what Joe name was the back dand versus now,
Speaker 7: but it was the impact that he had on the
Speaker 7: league at that time. So a lot of those guys,
Speaker 7: because the NFL kind of still in this infancy, they.
Speaker 4: Meant more to the game than just numbers. That's the
Speaker 4: way I look at it.
Speaker 6: Never and tell you my Tommy Nobles story. No, when
Speaker 6: he was at Atlanta. So I was my first job
Speaker 6: out of college, and I was getting to cover the
Speaker 6: Falcons home games, and I don't remember what happened in
Speaker 6: the game, but I was gonna I wanted to talk
Speaker 6: to Tommy Nobus. So he's at his locker getting undressed,
Speaker 6: and he's got this EyeBlack. It smeared all over his
Speaker 6: face right and and he had like a marine cut
Speaker 6: for his hair.
Speaker 8: And in his locker he had one of these.
Speaker 6: Goofy looking I don't know if it was cocaine ut
Speaker 6: or what, but it was a skull with law hair
Speaker 6: draped at it. And I took one look and I said,
Speaker 6: I think I'll go talk to somebody else.
Speaker 8: Scared the hell.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was ready for that, and you already knew
Speaker 6: he was a badass right and tough guy.
Speaker 8: And I was like, you're can go ask somebody else.
Speaker 8: I wonder what, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It was strange in fact.
Speaker 4: Put that in the locker. No crazy stories about the
Speaker 4: bill that you know of.
Speaker 3: We can I make a correction that this is a
Speaker 3: lot for me to do this to admit a mistake.
Speaker 3: But Tommy Nobles did not go to Alamo. He went
Speaker 3: to Thomas Jefferson High School and Thomas Jefferson High School
Speaker 3: in San Antonio, San Antonio, Jefferson High School, the Mustangs,
Speaker 3: by the way, we will excuse you, okay.
Speaker 4: God man, I don't know if I excuse him on that. Man,
Speaker 4: And you know what, I give you love because you
Speaker 4: could have just run with that. You never would have
Speaker 4: known any different. But I give you love.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then number sixty that he wore at the University
Speaker 3: of Texas. It's a prime number, at historic number at
Speaker 3: University of Texas. They don't give out They don't give
Speaker 3: out number sixty very often, although Brian Jones got it,
Speaker 3: Brian Jones of CBS Sports Fame. Really when he played
Speaker 3: at Texas he wore.
Speaker 4: Was he that good?
Speaker 3: He was a good player. Yeah?
Speaker 4: Did he was he worthy?
Speaker 5: He wasn't Tommy Nobles.
Speaker 3: Even if Brian was sitting here today, I would in
Speaker 3: this studio today, he would he would admit, Oh, I
Speaker 3: wasn't Tommy Nobles. But he got to wear number sixty
Speaker 3: at Texas.
Speaker 4: And it's pretty big in Atlanta. Yeah.
Speaker 11: I don't know if mister he considered sixty. I always
Speaker 11: think of him and Tyler. No, well, it's got to
Speaker 11: be the right, right, right, Yeah.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: How about the football last night?
Speaker 8: Oh my?
Speaker 3: And how about the baseball last night? Okay, First off,
Speaker 3: Mickey came in here talking about what a game and
Speaker 3: Pete Alonso hit the home run of the ninth. I
Speaker 3: need to win it for the Mets. Enough of Mets talk, Okay.
Speaker 4: That's enough.
Speaker 3: How about speaking of the Falcons and how they pulled
Speaker 3: that one out last night? Boy, what a bad loss
Speaker 3: for Tampa Bay. Yeah, I mean, they had that thing
Speaker 3: and they were going to be four and one on
Speaker 3: the season, in command in that division. And the Falcons
Speaker 3: are going to be two and three and now just
Speaker 3: tied to two game swinger three and two, both of
Speaker 3: them are three and two.
Speaker 4: Just I love it. I love it.
Speaker 7: The parody in this league right now is very good. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you got teams like Atlanta. I would hope the Cowboys
Speaker 7: could be in their Tampa. There's gonna be a mesh
Speaker 7: there of teams that fighting it out at the end
Speaker 7: of the season, and I'm just hoping the Cowboys are
Speaker 7: a part of that. Because we started looking at the conference.
Speaker 7: God leave man all the rec It's so similar. Nobody
Speaker 7: stepping out and saying, Okay, I got control of this.
Speaker 6: But how about throwing the winning touchdown pass to a
Speaker 6: guy that came in because the other guy was hurt.
Speaker 4: Hodge, he with a cave by the way, London could
Speaker 4: not have made that play.
Speaker 8: Well, he wouldn't have pulled away like that.
Speaker 4: That's what I mean. He could not have made that play.
Speaker 6: When he started running and I saw it, I'm going, okay,
Speaker 6: well that's nice. And then all of a sudden it's like, oh,
Speaker 6: they're not going to catch him.
Speaker 7: You have this, you have no football instant. It ran
Speaker 7: as soon as he.
Speaker 4: Broke the tackle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you could see it. You could seem right up
Speaker 3: the middle down and they weren't with those safeties.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go back.
Speaker 3: Up safeties for Tampa.
Speaker 4: Bay have no chance the practice squad got.
Speaker 3: Elevated for the game. They're getting demoted.
Speaker 4: Down, Yeah they are. You're looking for somebody else. Hey,
Speaker 4: guess where five oh nine?
Speaker 3: You know where? Could there?
Speaker 9: On?
Speaker 3: Hodge went to college?
Speaker 4: No, Prairie View, And you are lying. My dad is
Speaker 4: rolling over his that's his school, that's his all of mind.
Speaker 3: Prairie He went to Alcorn State, then Hines Community College
Speaker 3: and then Prairie View. A what a story twenty nine
Speaker 3: years old.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 8: Really he was a kind of a special teams guy.
Speaker 4: I think they can get some Yeah, yeah. One thing
Speaker 4: I can say about the Falcons.
Speaker 7: I love Kirk Cousins and his consistency during the regular season.
Speaker 7: His wide receivers are always open. There are no tight
Speaker 7: windows to throw it in. They all come back to
Speaker 7: the ball very well. And every time you look up,
Speaker 7: even if it's an intermediate pass, they seem to have
Speaker 7: a step or they seem to anticipate well how to
Speaker 7: come and meet the ball. For Kirk Cousins, I saw
Speaker 7: it all night long, and I've seen it a couple
Speaker 7: of games from Atlanta this year.
Speaker 6: Well, how open a two touchdown pass was? Mike Evans though, Man.
Speaker 8: How do you forget to cover him. Man, how does
Speaker 8: that happen?
Speaker 6: That doesn't happen when we watch games, or it doesn't
Speaker 6: happen for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: He makes me nervous, Mike, Kevin A good player, good player,
Speaker 7: got a lot of heart, So you don't want to
Speaker 7: cover them.
Speaker 4: Be tough. We get into a fight.
Speaker 3: About about Sterling Shepherd getting a touchdown last It's nice
Speaker 3: good for him school?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 7: His dad was that his dad that passed on Derek. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's why I played with him and Uh going to strike.
Speaker 3: You, yep, when I think it was when Sterling was
Speaker 3: about six years old, his dad, Uh, I believe he's playing.
Speaker 3: He was coaching at Wyoming and playing racketball and Uh
Speaker 3: died of a heart attack.
Speaker 7: And we were talking about well, I was with pub
Speaker 7: last night, Kevin Smith, Yeah, and we talked. We were
Speaker 7: talking about all of that last night. I was trying
Speaker 7: to let them know that when I grew up, I
Speaker 7: went to Odessa, Texas.
Speaker 3: That's Shepherds are legendary and Odessin.
Speaker 4: I have cousins out there.
Speaker 7: That's the first la I flew to when I was
Speaker 7: a kid on Branniff Airlines and I was nine years old,
Speaker 7: maybe twelve. I went twice at nine years old and
Speaker 7: I met this cute little girl looked like yeah, I
Speaker 7: fell in love with her at nine years old, ten
Speaker 7: years old, I was in love.
Speaker 4: If I'm not mistaken, that was Derek's mom. Okay, that
Speaker 4: was not Derek's mom, but but the one that played last.
Speaker 7: Night Sterling's mom. Stirling's mom was if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 7: Her name is Renee okay, and man, she's the prettiest
Speaker 7: thing ever. But her brother was my best friend at
Speaker 7: the time. His name was Tony Ford.
Speaker 4: Okay.
Speaker 3: That was my little story about the Shepherd, Sir Derek Shepherd.
Speaker 3: And then there was Daryl Shepherd and Woody Shepherd. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: they were all stud Daryl played quarterback at out.
Speaker 8: Played record ball with shep Dog as they called him.
Speaker 4: He wouldn't shut up. He talked all the time. He
Speaker 4: was fine.
Speaker 8: He talked to me, he won.
Speaker 6: They were had three people and it's like I was
Speaker 6: walking by and he goes, come on.
Speaker 8: You're my partner.
Speaker 4: Good he was.
Speaker 8: I can't play.
Speaker 6: I said, I don't have tennis shoes on. It goes,
Speaker 6: take take your shoes off. I got you covered. We
Speaker 6: just need another body.
Speaker 8: I went out there and played and he was pretty dark.
Speaker 7: He made he made nineteen eighty nine fun. Yeah, because
Speaker 7: other than that, there was no fun. But he made
Speaker 7: it fun. Yeah, he's missed, all right.
Speaker 3: So what about those Cowboys Steelers? And what do we know?
Speaker 3: K new this morning?
Speaker 6: I don't know if it's new, I mean it's from yesterday,
Speaker 6: but Trayvon Diggs was limited in practice yesterday. He nicked
Speaker 6: his ankle up whatever that means. And we'll see where
Speaker 6: it is on Saturday, because today is just a kind
Speaker 6: of a walk through, so they actually have a semi
Speaker 6: practice tomorrow.
Speaker 8: They still have yet.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm sure he yeah, working on a rehab or
Speaker 6: getting treatment. Uh kayln Carson is still limited. McCarthy said
Speaker 6: yesterday that yesterday would be a big day.
Speaker 8: I think he uh.
Speaker 6: Did most everything, just not maybe as many reps as normal.
Speaker 6: So that's a good sign that he should be able
Speaker 6: to get back from the from the ankle deal. Uh
Speaker 6: and other than that, other than dehydration, I guess it
Speaker 6: was pretty hot out there. I remember somebody in the
Speaker 6: locker room saying, man, that was tough.
Speaker 3: So Will McLay said that he was doing, you know,
Speaker 3: after practice yesterday, Will came to the TV studio and
Speaker 3: we tape a segment for the Mike McCarthy Show, and
Speaker 3: he was talking about, man, it was hot out there
Speaker 3: and he had to go sit down and been out
Speaker 3: there for two hours. And uh not of course me
Speaker 3: being a smart but well, it's those here is only
Speaker 3: not even under.
Speaker 4: Well, you know the ninety one this time, but year
Speaker 4: you're not ready.
Speaker 3: For He pointed at the buildings. You see that building
Speaker 3: there with all those windows, and you see those building
Speaker 3: and it's.
Speaker 6: Like ninety The other day when we went out there
Speaker 6: for practice and it was like three thirty. I think
Speaker 6: it must have been Monday, because they had the long
Speaker 6: weekend and we went out there for practice and we're
Speaker 6: not used to standing out there for practice that late
Speaker 6: in the afternoon. And I'm out there and it's like
Speaker 6: I'm blinded. I can't see. The sun was right in
Speaker 6: my face, and I was saying, man, look at this,
Speaker 6: and somebody goes, yeah, look at the reflection coming off
Speaker 6: that glass building.
Speaker 3: So the cowboys are well prepared for those late afternoon
Speaker 3: drives that's going into the sun at at times.
Speaker 6: I mean, it was blinding, I'll tell you know what.
Speaker 6: And to that point.
Speaker 3: And I've been here in July or August and walk
Speaker 3: out the front door of the right by the atrium
Speaker 3: here the main interest to the Star, and I swear
Speaker 3: that's the hottest place on the point really really because
Speaker 3: it's I mean just the reflection coming off the big
Speaker 3: buildings and stuff.
Speaker 7: Concrete, Well, that's that air and plus it's even without that,
Speaker 7: it's it's air quality alert to sixty fifteen.
Speaker 8: Oh, I shouldn't have been out there, So.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that was This is today, so yesterday, I'm sure
Speaker 7: it wasn't He wasn't he?
Speaker 6: And I think Mike's biggest concern, Uh, you know, everybody's
Speaker 6: talking about the field or the rain because it's like
Speaker 6: fifty sixty percent chance of thunderstorms in the evening on Sunday, you.
Speaker 8: Know, the wet ball deal.
Speaker 6: And his concern is having the right shoes on the
Speaker 6: right cleat length for the field and to make sure
Speaker 6: his guys test out because it's grass and it's supposed
Speaker 6: to rain.
Speaker 8: In the afternoon.
Speaker 6: Now maybe they have a tarp that covers the field,
Speaker 6: who knows, but you've got to have the right size
Speaker 6: cleats on to make sure you've got good footing. Did
Speaker 6: you guys switch your cleats.
Speaker 7: We switched our cleats for really just any bad field.
Speaker 7: The only time I really remember it being important was
Speaker 7: the San Francisco game.
Speaker 4: Uh just below, just a horrible field.
Speaker 7: I had never experienced anything like that to where I
Speaker 7: had to change my cleats at halftime. And you know,
Speaker 7: one thing about wearing the longer cleats, Okay, you might
Speaker 7: have a little bit more better footing. But then with
Speaker 7: some of those guys, you know, who was very muscular
Speaker 7: and track guys and all that kind of stuff, they
Speaker 7: would start to clamp up because the cleats were smarterer. Yeah,
Speaker 7: the cleats sticking into the ground, the cleats like an tide.
Speaker 4: It's kind of tough, man, it's kind of tough.
Speaker 7: And then you I don't know how many times I
Speaker 7: got my hand stepped on by one of those.
Speaker 4: Looked like it was a dagger in my hand, you know,
Speaker 4: just tackle.
Speaker 8: We had in high school.
Speaker 3: They were they were huge.
Speaker 8: Right, and then they had like metal on the bottom
Speaker 8: of the well.
Speaker 4: Now they were heart plastic.
Speaker 8: When we yeah, heart plastic. Yeah.
Speaker 4: But I'm looking at the weather, chance of rain in
Speaker 4: Pittsburgh right now, and.
Speaker 6: But for Sunday, scattered evening it last I checked last
Speaker 6: night it had like fifty fifty sixty percent.
Speaker 8: That changes all the time. This is when I knew
Speaker 8: I didn't like playing football.
Speaker 6: Those shoes, those shoes, and you get your footsteps one
Speaker 6: it hurts.
Speaker 8: It's so bad. And I said, yeah, I don't think
Speaker 8: I've cut out.
Speaker 7: And I think it always gets it always gets a
Speaker 7: little baby the pinky toe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know why. It's like it always hits
Speaker 4: the pinky toe. Those really.
Speaker 3: You play with metal spikes.
Speaker 11: I don't know what they were, but they hurtt I
Speaker 11: think I think before they came with the heart plastic,
Speaker 11: I don't know, they seemed like metal to.
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Speaker 3: and the Steelers. Of course, the Cowboys will be without
Speaker 3: Brandon Cooks, who's coming back from the knee infection that
Speaker 3: incurred earlier in the week, and so who steps up
Speaker 3: at wide receiver for this team? Mickey, Has the rookie
Speaker 3: wide receiver been available in the locker room this week?
Speaker 8: I believe he was.
Speaker 3: Anybody asked him how you pronounced his last name?
Speaker 8: No, I don't think so. We think everybody knows. Now,
Speaker 8: thanks to you, we need to.
Speaker 3: Get to the bottom of Thanks to Babelfenburg who well,
Speaker 3: thanks to the Cowboys media guide which apparently correctly.
Speaker 5: But I would like I still would like to hear
Speaker 5: Ryan Illinoy say.
Speaker 3: It himself name, but Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on Ryan
Speaker 3: Illinoy this morning on one O five three of the Fan,
Speaker 3: would you like to hear the quote? Yes, yes, I'm
Speaker 3: anxious to see him make his first catch with the
Speaker 3: Dallas Cowboys. He may be something special for us on
Speaker 3: a personal basis. He's got des Bryant's.
Speaker 4: Stuff to him.
Speaker 3: Boy, is he an athlete. I'm glad to see him
Speaker 3: get this opportunity. He could show out really well.
Speaker 6: What do you think of that he did in training camp?
Speaker 6: It seemed like daily he made a play that you.
Speaker 8: Go, oh, okay.
Speaker 6: Preseason, if I remember correctly, then he had like a
Speaker 6: hamstring or something slowed him down. But he hasn't played
Speaker 6: yet in the regular season, so this this will be
Speaker 6: the first game he's active. He'd been one of the
Speaker 6: inactive's first four games, I believe. H so interesting to
Speaker 6: see he's he's he's a larger wide receiver, but he's
Speaker 6: got speed.
Speaker 8: Was it was he the guy? Wait for us?
Speaker 4: Where did you go to?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember he's Southeast re state.
Speaker 8: Oh that's right, and a half weak force in my mind.
Speaker 6: Anyway, Uh, it'll be interesting to see because he had
Speaker 6: a pretty good rapport with Dak in practice in.
Speaker 8: The training camp.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: And he's four four four speed pre draft measurables for
Speaker 3: one six foot and three quarters. It's just also rounded
Speaker 3: off to six one two two. He's thirty nine and
Speaker 3: a half vertical, eleven foot broad jump, and nineteen bench reps.
Speaker 3: Strong guys, not bad.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 4: Receiver. Yeah, I mean one thing.
Speaker 7: I was on the show last night with Clarence Hill
Speaker 7: and we were talking about for the odds, times and
Speaker 7: things of that nature. But there's one thing you have
Speaker 7: to remember. There are some guys because they started talking
Speaker 7: about my lack of speed, and they said, what do
Speaker 7: you want? I said, my best of four to six,
Speaker 7: But I'm pretty sure when the ball was in the air,
Speaker 7: I think I was a little bit faster. And there
Speaker 7: are a lot of people like that. Game speed is
Speaker 7: different from how your your forty time. And you know,
Speaker 7: to me, Daz was one of those guys that, yes,
Speaker 7: forty time was one thing, but you put you put
Speaker 7: that ball in there, you know either it's a fifty
Speaker 7: to fifty ball or he's going to outrace him to
Speaker 7: the ball. Michael Ivan as well, another guy that had
Speaker 7: game speed even though it's forty time, did not depict
Speaker 7: it well.
Speaker 6: A lot of times the forty speed has all to
Speaker 6: do with your start. Yeah, right, Well, when you're playing football,
Speaker 6: you're kind of running already and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 6: oh I got to run faster.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just like a you're using momentum.
Speaker 6: Like the receiver running back when someone's chasing you. Yeah,
Speaker 6: or in the neighborhood the big guy's chasing you.
Speaker 8: You run a lot.
Speaker 4: Faster when the bullies on your back.
Speaker 8: Got right, let me go.
Speaker 4: Oh man.
Speaker 7: So now I think it you would hope that we
Speaker 7: have some players like that because to me that it
Speaker 7: shows how much you want it. You know, you can
Speaker 7: run fast for the clock, but how much do you
Speaker 7: want that ball when it's in the air versus the
Speaker 7: other guy.
Speaker 6: So it'll be interesting because I think he'll get an
Speaker 6: opportunity obviously, Jalen Brooks and Cavante Turpin, and I just
Speaker 6: think they need to get Turpin going.
Speaker 8: I need to.
Speaker 6: My thought is if you put him in the slot
Speaker 6: on the same side CD is outside, if they want
Speaker 6: to double CD, then he should be option be single coverage, right,
Speaker 6: can't double everybody, And they got a respective speed, So
Speaker 6: maybe they back off and just get them the ball
Speaker 6: and let them go get some run after catch. But yeah,
Speaker 6: I think it'll be interesting. It'll be interesting how much
Speaker 6: they'll rely on Tobert to be the number two guy.
Speaker 7: Well, that's another thing we talked about last night, and
Speaker 7: we kind of got into it because I looked at
Speaker 7: the media.
Speaker 4: Of course, you guys not included.
Speaker 7: Of being so pessimistic about possibilities. I was always of
Speaker 7: the mindset that I'm not gonna let you determine how
Speaker 7: good I am. So if I'm a practice squad player
Speaker 7: coming up, let's say I just didn't get the right shot,
Speaker 7: I wasn't with the right team. We look at them
Speaker 7: as here we go, we got these practice squad like
Speaker 7: we just joked about with the safeties. Well, at one point,
Speaker 7: you got to have a Michael Downs out there that says,
Speaker 7: I'm not gonna listen to that. I'm gonna play the
Speaker 7: way I play, you know, and I'm gonna be good
Speaker 7: at it.
Speaker 4: Where are those guys.
Speaker 7: That's the guys I want to see coming off I
Speaker 7: practice squad. I get it there practice squad players. But
Speaker 7: then I also got it Michael Downes went to Rice University.
Speaker 7: I also understand Michael downs was an undrafted free agent.
Speaker 7: He came from a program that he probably won one
Speaker 7: game or maybe two in his.
Speaker 4: Entire career in football.
Speaker 7: He comes to the Cowboys and he turns it out
Speaker 7: in training camp, right away. That's the kind of guys
Speaker 7: I want to see out there that I'm not believing
Speaker 7: the narrative. You know, I know what I can do,
Speaker 7: So I want to see some surprises out there coming
Speaker 7: from that prectident.
Speaker 3: And the Cowboys history is littered with literally Withers.
Speaker 4: So that's why.
Speaker 7: I am optimistic about guys before I'm pessimistic. Of course,
Speaker 7: with the media, we're going to be a little bit
Speaker 7: more pessimistic before we are optimistic. So we got into
Speaker 7: that conversation last night, and it's something that I truly
Speaker 7: have passion for. There's got to be some guys out
Speaker 7: there that says, I'm not gonna let you control my narrative.
Speaker 7: And I'm hoping we can find some of those guys.
Speaker 8: And you better be ready when the opportunity arrived, just.
Speaker 3: Like Caderil Hodge was ready when his opportunity last night.
Speaker 11: And we're watching the game and arguing about that topic
Speaker 11: as we watch the game.
Speaker 6: Or think about Larry Brown drafted in twelfth round when
Speaker 6: Jimmy got bored with the draft and they got to
Speaker 6: the twelfth pick and he was like, yeah, just get
Speaker 6: somebody close. Save money, so Jerry doesn't have to fly
Speaker 6: him in. Okay, we'll take this corner from TC.
Speaker 7: And I wouldn't say he's great, but damn he was solid.
Speaker 7: He's a guy that you could depend on to make plays,
Speaker 7: and he.
Speaker 6: Ended up getting earning a starting job after he ended
Speaker 6: up being a Super Bowl.
Speaker 8: I was going to start from the beginning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we wanted to build up. Yeah, that was our conversation.
Speaker 6: So that's why I say we'll see I we don't know,
Speaker 6: we don't We're going to find out. We're going to
Speaker 6: find out about and I'm hoping with surprise, right, I
Speaker 6: mean we're sort of surprised. Other than the mistackle with
Speaker 6: Kayln Carson, he was he the wake Forest guy.
Speaker 5: I Kayl Carson, Let's get that out of the way.
Speaker 4: Wake Forest out of the way.
Speaker 3: Fifth round pick Forest right, sixth round pick Illinois was
Speaker 3: Southeast Missouri state Southeast Missouri.
Speaker 4: Now we got together. Can we continue with the show.
Speaker 3: And we're going to continue with our picks to win
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Speaker 3: We got some breaking news here and we kick off
Speaker 3: our last segment of mixed shots for the week. Mike
Speaker 3: McCarthy has a conference call going on right now with
Speaker 3: the media, so here it is the breaking news. Mike
Speaker 3: McCarthy said. Rookie cornerback Kaylin Carson is coming along slowly.
Speaker 3: McCarthy on cornerback Trayvon Diggs, just being smart with Trayvon.
Speaker 3: I feel pretty good about where he is. Everything points
Speaker 3: to him probably going Sunday night.
Speaker 7: And you know when it's a Sunday night, you kind
Speaker 7: of feel outs more time.
Speaker 4: Exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So do you think they will both be listed
Speaker 3: as questionable on the injury report today? Mickey? Hello, Mickey,
Speaker 3: just looking at.
Speaker 6: No I saw the Cowboys. Now they should they.
Speaker 5: A question on the screen about what about?
Speaker 4: What about?
Speaker 3: Question on the screen on ESP and his should Cowboys
Speaker 3: pursue DeVante Adams. That's why Mickey was distracted and couldn't
Speaker 3: answer my question about.
Speaker 8: Why is it always the Cowboys because.
Speaker 4: Everyone wants to play for the Cowboys. Bags.
Speaker 6: No, they want to give it to the Cowboys because
Speaker 6: they can put that star up there and they get
Speaker 6: people to pay attention, like they got me. Yeah, the
Speaker 6: second round plus that's what he's saying. Vegas would consider
Speaker 6: for devantem.
Speaker 3: Second round pick and additional compensation.
Speaker 4: Get are you giving you?
Speaker 8: Uh?
Speaker 6: That part's okay, it's it's the thirteen point seven million
Speaker 6: dollars that it's going to suck from the cap.
Speaker 3: And what is this team right now?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 8: Are they one player away from going to the super Bowl?
Speaker 8: Who was Yeah, no, okay.
Speaker 3: Then you don't do that another that's another that's one
Speaker 3: of the most important things to consider on this. Check
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Speaker 3: than wine.
Speaker 4: Talk to me and see where we are after this.
Speaker 5: After early November Nomber, they pushed it back.
Speaker 3: Like probably mid November week ten, something like that.
Speaker 4: Something back, You just do that.
Speaker 6: Well the lead they did because they.
Speaker 3: Figured so no, no, they didn't like they didn't like yesterday,
Speaker 3: push it back. They did it like the spring meetings.
Speaker 8: You know, it's like we got a lot of stuff going.
Speaker 3: So to answer my question, you expect Carson and Diggs
Speaker 3: to be listed as questionable on the injury report today,
Speaker 3: which I mean they likely will go. If you're listed
Speaker 3: as doubtful, that usually means you're.
Speaker 6: Out because they'll be questionable and then you can change
Speaker 6: it on Saturday.
Speaker 3: So does be listed as doubtful or out?
Speaker 8: He's going to be listed as doubtful to out?
Speaker 6: You know, it's one of the well you can do both,
Speaker 6: it doesn't matter, but you can't know.
Speaker 8: Gives you at least wiggle room.
Speaker 3: That's why a case, that's why will the will there
Speaker 3: be wiggle rooms?
Speaker 8: Out? He's out?
Speaker 3: You're going to list him as out, yes, but the
Speaker 3: Cowboys will list him as.
Speaker 8: Doubtful just to keep them on their toes.
Speaker 3: Like that.
Speaker 8: You don't have to be totally truthful.
Speaker 3: All right, it's time for our weekly picks here and
Speaker 3: Everson Walls, you are first up.
Speaker 7: We talked about this last night. Of course, I was
Speaker 7: the only one that was optimistic.
Speaker 3: Is this a show that we can watch somewhere that
Speaker 3: you're it was?
Speaker 7: We were at this, uh, Kevin Smith's lounge, the Echo Lounge,
Speaker 7: which is in Carlton, all right, and it's right off
Speaker 7: of Midway and Rose Meat, really nice something. Yeah, it
Speaker 7: was with two K's Echo two K's and it's a
Speaker 7: really nice place, good food. I had a catfish last night.
Speaker 7: They they knew how to kick it, yes they did.
Speaker 7: But they also they jacked me up for my wings. Man,
Speaker 7: I want those limon pepper wings, and they forgot to
Speaker 7: give it to me. I knew my bag felt light,
Speaker 7: you know. But I got home and I was kind
Speaker 7: of disappointed. But Carleton, Calton, yeah, okay, yeah, really nice,
Speaker 7: really night, right off of George Bush Parkway. And I
Speaker 7: talked to them about the Cowboys winning. Of course, I'm
Speaker 7: looking at some field goals, so I said, twenty to
Speaker 7: twenty three Cowboys are going to.
Speaker 8: Be our favorite. I was considering it too.
Speaker 7: I picked it, all right, all right, hold on, I'll
Speaker 7: go twenty six to twenty how about that?
Speaker 4: Okay, I'll go twenty six to twenty.
Speaker 3: Cowboys win in overtime on a touchdown pass.
Speaker 7: Over time, but it will we will be amazed once
Speaker 7: again by how well all we plays. I'm looking for
Speaker 7: him to kick three three field goals probably all love
Speaker 7: the mother fifty yards.
Speaker 4: Okay, that's how specific.
Speaker 3: Can you get the twenty six with three field goals?
Speaker 3: So how do they get the.
Speaker 4: It's still off off You've got four field good, I
Speaker 4: got four fields. Let's go. Let's go with that. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 4: with that? Yeah, thank you so.
Speaker 3: But your pick to click is Aubrey? Yes, okay, well
Speaker 3: we almost need to just take off.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's almost like a Michael pass for a couple
Speaker 4: of years.
Speaker 3: Now, if you've won a Player of the Month award
Speaker 3: like Aubrey did for September, he will let you. I
Speaker 3: will let you take him this because because he is
Speaker 3: on a bad streak right now. He missed one row.
Speaker 8: He's over for one.
Speaker 4: Uh huh yeah, fifty plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: Remember kickers always say you just want to go one
Speaker 8: for one.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Mackey, you're next up.
Speaker 8: It's the mick, Mick the pick.
Speaker 4: I like that, make the pick pick you got to fix? No, no, no, man,
Speaker 4: go ahead.
Speaker 3: Home, Mackey. Who did you pick last week?
Speaker 4: You don't know?
Speaker 3: He too old late and Frisco has joined us here?
Speaker 8: Did I take c D?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: But who did you pick to win? The game.
Speaker 8: Oh I picked him to lose.
Speaker 3: Oh you did.
Speaker 8: I'm on a three game losing streak.
Speaker 7: Ultimately, this is why the Cowboys, This is why the
Speaker 7: Cowboys can't do that.
Speaker 3: When was the last time you picked them to lose?
Speaker 3: Making or less? No before?
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just said after the way they played against Baltimore,
Speaker 6: I said I will not pick them to win until
Speaker 6: they win a game.
Speaker 4: Well, Baltimore wasn't as bad as the Saints.
Speaker 3: They came back again, Balmore a three point of won
Speaker 3: that game.
Speaker 4: How we have to do with stop them?
Speaker 6: Actually, if you think about how they played in the
Speaker 6: last five quarters, it's been pretty good.
Speaker 4: It has been pretty good. Those others.
Speaker 8: You're picking them to win, I'm picking them to win
Speaker 8: twenty four twenty one, okay.
Speaker 6: Which happened to be the score of the last time
Speaker 6: I ever picked the game perfectly, twenty four to twenty.
Speaker 3: One in nineteen eighty four.
Speaker 8: Ninety one they beat Washington.
Speaker 3: That's a lot the last time. Wait wait, wait, yes,
Speaker 3: the last time you beat the game perfectly.
Speaker 8: How many times have you got the score right? How
Speaker 8: many times have you got the score right?
Speaker 4: Hey? We can always lie about it.
Speaker 7: Let me tell you why you said it's monumental because
Speaker 7: you remember it.
Speaker 4: Was something.
Speaker 7: If you wouldn't have said that, he wouldn't have said
Speaker 7: it one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Bills, I sure I told him truth.
Speaker 5: I gotta I'm gonna check a fact check.
Speaker 3: We're gonna fact check to see if there was a
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty one wine.
Speaker 6: Michael Irvin caught the winning touchdown the Tampa Bay game.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 8: In that game he beat Darryl Green one on one.
Speaker 3: YEP at Washington November twenty fourth, nineteen ninety one, a
Speaker 3: date that will live in information.
Speaker 4: He picked one.
Speaker 6: Through the past because Troy It's brained his knee.
Speaker 3: And there was a start of a six game win streak.
Speaker 8: That's right.
Speaker 6: And I also picked Michael Irvin to be the pick
Speaker 6: to click too in that game.
Speaker 3: Yes, the perfect day. When did you lose your job
Speaker 3: with the Times Herald?
Speaker 4: Was it?
Speaker 7: Because next week shortly half Wednsday, New.
Speaker 8: Orleans two weeks later? Wow, it didn't save the paper.
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 3: So you're picking a Cowboys win.
Speaker 5: Cowboys time go twenty four to twenty one.
Speaker 3: It worked for you in nineteen one.
Speaker 6: You might as well say, will ride that score? And
Speaker 6: you know what, here's my surprise pic to click. Okay,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be Ezekiel Elliott.
Speaker 8: Two touchdowns.
Speaker 3: You saw what he loves playing in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 8: Oh, touchdowns going with his.
Speaker 3: He had three touchdowns in Pittsburgh last year, including the
Speaker 3: game winning with nine seconds.
Speaker 4: About that, yeah, I got it.
Speaker 8: And you know why I remember that?
Speaker 6: On Monday night sports Dale Hansen said, well, we didn't
Speaker 6: need to really go and watch the game. Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 6: told you what was gonna happen.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people were actually watching television, local television sports back then.
Speaker 8: Don't dismiss yourself.
Speaker 3: I I came in here expecting to pick the Steelers
Speaker 3: to win. I had it nineteen sixteen Steelers. But I'm
Speaker 3: motivated to turn that goals. You've motivated me with your
Speaker 3: four field goal prediction from Brandon Aubrey, and the Cowboys
Speaker 3: are going to win nineteen to sixteen.
Speaker 6: Now you better have them long cleat plant with all
Speaker 6: the field goals that is, and might.
Speaker 3: Pick to click Cavante Turpin.
Speaker 8: They need that to be the pick to click.
Speaker 3: Are we talking receivership? We talked whatever he every way
Speaker 3: he gets to the end zone. The one touchdown is
Speaker 3: going to be scored by Cavante Turpin. So there you go,
Speaker 3: all right, and Nate's got Cowboys by one.
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, I stand back. He always getting excorted the
Speaker 4: job he must have, he must have forgotten his stuff.
Speaker 6: He can get on NFL network, but he can't break
Speaker 6: into the start.
Speaker 3: This boy his standback badge on the floor here in
Speaker 3: the podcast studio.
Speaker 4: That's that's Bill's boy, man, that's that's his his uh,
Speaker 4: Mickey's boy. So you didn't tell everybody I kicked me
Speaker 4: to the curve for you. No, no, no, no, Mike,
Speaker 4: they kick you to the curve. You least kick to
Speaker 4: the curve. Let me take a curve him? Tell tru.
Speaker 3: What's that You kick me to the curve?
Speaker 4: Remember me? You and Bill started?
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right?
Speaker 4: No, is that right? I did not take your place?
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 8: We all got kicked to the curve.
Speaker 4: This is the Consolation podcast, all.
Speaker 5: Right, and we invented Grambling. Doesn't lose this week?
Speaker 4: No, why is that? Bill?
Speaker 3: I think they got to buy so and overuse the
Speaker 3: same way. Oh's gotta buy so we don't lose this week.
Speaker 3: We wait till next week to lose. The Texas fam you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he said that last week, and then then Hawkins
Speaker 6: has a great day and they win.
Speaker 7: I've got to watch these guys. They haven't had time
Speaker 7: to watch my team.
Speaker 3: And so, which brings us to our final prediction of
Speaker 3: the weekend. Missouri plays at.
Speaker 6: I don't remember the last time they played in front
Speaker 6: of one hundred thousand people.
Speaker 3: I don't know. Missouri probably hadn't played in front of
Speaker 3: combined hundred No, I'm kidding.
Speaker 8: Hey, the season is sold out.
Speaker 7: Okay's moment, brother canon, how many did they play?
Speaker 3: Forty six thousand seat for row Field is sold out
Speaker 3: this season?
Speaker 8: Keep making fun. You got to play us. Just remember
Speaker 8: that you've got.
Speaker 4: To the ones that you hate. You know, you got
Speaker 4: those Uh got those guys like.
Speaker 8: Really Queny always we always.
Speaker 3: Had problems in Climbie, Missouri, but little Joe Washington, little
Speaker 3: hookteral touchdown was never in.
Speaker 6: We have a T shirt bet on that game, right, Mickey,
Speaker 6: that's right, he's got the Bill's got the way one of.
Speaker 8: Your T shirts and you're gonna there one of his.
Speaker 8: I don't think he has an Oklahoma T shirt.
Speaker 3: All right, So, but you got Missoo winning at.
Speaker 6: Agul they played in front of what ninety thousand at
Speaker 6: AT and T when they beat Ohio State in the
Speaker 6: Cotton Bowl.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's different Ohio State, Ohio State's JV because
Speaker 3: everybody else was in the draft.
Speaker 6: And guess what, at least guys that went to Missouri
Speaker 6: that were getting drafted played in the game.
Speaker 8: They liked the school they went.
Speaker 7: Yeah, some of them call it okay, people call that crazy.
Speaker 3: Well, it would be fun to break it all down
Speaker 3: on Monday, and it'll be a sleepy eyed Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 3: who will be here on Monday at high noon for
Speaker 3: the next edition of Shot No Cowboys.
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