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Speaker 1: suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: bat We gets Unfiltered. Seymour is again of finalists. Is

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Speaker 1: what four years in our life think? So based on

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Speaker 1: who he's up against, he should get it. I should

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Speaker 1: get it. He should get him. I didn't even remember

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Speaker 1: what he was pushing. Now, Okay, yes, right, you're right.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you could say helmets. Well, are we

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Speaker 1: a king? I don't like the process. It's got to

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Speaker 1: be a better way, right, let me just do it.

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Speaker 1: But I hope he asked me. I'll tell you what

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Speaker 1: happens when the guys get up there and friends like,

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Speaker 1: who's who is that? I don't know him. If I

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Speaker 1: don't know, he shouldn't be induce and Dusseldorf, he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be our man, Onderstrasse. I have a wildlife calendar up

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Speaker 1: in my office area that the picture was of a tiger.

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Speaker 1: Flip the calendar over and it says February first, Chinese

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Speaker 1: New Year, Year of the Tiger. All these things are

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Speaker 1: coming together if the Bengals are gonna win. Wrong? Was

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Speaker 1: it a tiger calendar? And then I realized it's actually

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Speaker 1: a Tiger calendar is Patriots Unfiltered fueled by Duncan. All right,

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Speaker 1: welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday here at Giles

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Speaker 1: Stadium in the Los Angeles Rams are your champions of

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Speaker 1: the NFL. The right team won, the good guys won.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I mean, good game. You know, I

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Speaker 1: was on a game. Good halftime, not the greatest ever,

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Speaker 1: but good and commercials were met. I'd agree overall. Um,

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Speaker 1: I just thought it was funny. Everyone was, Like I

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Speaker 1: asked Paul, I'm like, why didn't you tweet out that

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Speaker 1: this was the greatest halftime show? Because everyone as soon

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Speaker 1: as it happened. Oh, I mean I expected Moral to

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Speaker 1: do it because I know he loved it. Eminem could

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Speaker 1: just like literally have walked right through one for one

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Speaker 1: second and he would have been, like he said, like

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Speaker 1: there were easter eggs there that I had no I

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Speaker 1: wasn't even the best part when Drey sat at the

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Speaker 1: piano and did the rift to I ain't mad at

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Speaker 1: your own like, I had no idea what he was playing.

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Speaker 1: I I like, so it didn't mean as much to me,

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Speaker 1: but it was good. It was good, but you two

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Speaker 1: was still the best in my opinion, and I will

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Speaker 1: fight you if you disagree that. Two thousand and one right, yeah, Prince, Prince,

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Speaker 1: Prince was a lot of people mentioned Prince as you know,

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Speaker 1: their go to, but that you two one man chills chills.

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Speaker 1: I just that one stands alone for me, just because

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Speaker 1: there were so much more to it. Otherwise, it's just

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Speaker 1: kind of like music that's on while I get some food.

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Speaker 1: How much music can we fit into ten minutes? Right?

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Speaker 1: And it's a scramble and then they come out and

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Speaker 1: they play the hits and yeah, it's fine. So anyway,

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Speaker 1: the game was fine. Um, the game was okay. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know a lot of people upset because the refs

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Speaker 1: inserted themselves at the end. It was all makeup because

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Speaker 1: they missed that they missed the face mask and they

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Speaker 1: were like, okay, that's seven points that we have to

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Speaker 1: make up, so they made sure that they did. Got

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Speaker 1: Logan Wilson with the defensive holding was a bad call.

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Speaker 1: The holding was the interference was a good call. I agree, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: but all it took was one one bad call. Right now,

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Speaker 1: there was like you said, that was not anywhere near

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Speaker 1: as bad of the call as the one they missed.

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Speaker 1: I know that gave him a seventy five yard touchdown. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Um, you know, good for the Rams, you know,

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Speaker 1: good for the league. Have that LA team winning, maybe

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Speaker 1: they can actually get some real fans. It's good for

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Speaker 1: stopping the narratives. Yeah, the Stafford narrative more but more

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Speaker 1: importantly the you can't do it that way narrative, which

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick line of thought that there are a million

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Speaker 1: different ways to do it. Well you can't. You can

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Speaker 1: do it that way for a year or two. Five Yeah,

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Speaker 1: always happens. And you know, it's just it takes an

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Speaker 1: amount of you know, I guess confidence or whatever that

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Speaker 1: Belichick has that he's able to bring those guys back,

427
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Speaker 1: and you know, it's just unfortunate that I think that

428
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Speaker 1: they have earned in their whole head coaching stints. You

429
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Speaker 1: know that some questionable decisions, play calls, acquisitions, all that

430
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Speaker 1: goes into coaching, and you know, I think that's what

431
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Speaker 1: player people are kind of reacting to that they're back,

432
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Speaker 1: instead of saying, like, I know that's part of their

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Speaker 1: experience as head coaches, but they were also here for

434
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Speaker 1: a long time. And when you keep hearing every brain

435
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 1: during brain draining, like these guys are brains that have

436
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 1: been around here that one championships that know what they're doing.

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Speaker 1: I know it wasn't great maybe in their head coaching stints,

438
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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean that they don't they can't bring

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Speaker 1: some value back. But I think the bigger point though,

440
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Speaker 1: is just that they don't seamlessly fit into what you're

441
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Speaker 1: doing now. So there's just you bring Joe Judge back.

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Speaker 1: That'd be great if you're making them, you know, the

443
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Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, but now he's on offense and everybody's like,

444
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Speaker 1: well remember that third down that they did the quarterback.

445
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 1: You know they have that right there to go. So

446
00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:54,879
Speaker 1: I just I think they get a bum rap. But again,

447
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: I just I think they need to continue to add

448
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Speaker 1: I think they need some established coaches and maybe some

449
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Speaker 1: outside perspectives. I know that was a big buzz line

450
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Speaker 1: last year to bring, you know, make it more collaborative.

451
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Speaker 1: But I just think it's always good to have some

452
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Speaker 1: fresh faces in. You got maybe a guy maybe Adam

453
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Speaker 1: Gaze wasn't Patriots practice and saw mac Jones last I

454
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Speaker 1: would feel better about Adam Gayze coming here, yeah, than

455
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Speaker 1: I do about Judge in Patricia being on the on

456
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Speaker 1: the coaching staff. And I know what your point is,

457
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Speaker 1: about I would the bad rap, but I mean just

458
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Speaker 1: to ask yourself, like, what did you think of Matt

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Speaker 1: Patricia's as a defensive coordinator? Yeah, I don't think most

460
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Speaker 1: people thought he was great as a defensive coordinator. And

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Speaker 1: I think especially the contrast of his last year and

462
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Speaker 1: the way the Super Bowl unfolded to Flores when he

463
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Speaker 1: came in the next year and it was like night

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Speaker 1: and day, I think most people were like, Wow, coaching

465
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Speaker 1: had something to do with that. And now he's back,

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Speaker 1: you know, in Joe Judges back. I don't I don't

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Speaker 1: really think that people thought all that highly of him.

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Speaker 1: I just would wonder if Joe Judge didn't get hired

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Speaker 1: by the Patriots, I think anybody would have hired him

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Speaker 1: in the NFL or anything other than special teams. No,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so either. Yeah, I don't think anybody

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Speaker 1: would have made him a coordinator. Yeah, all right, eight

473
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Speaker 1: five five Ticket Hotline web radio at Patriots dot com

474
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Speaker 1: is the email address. What did you think of the

475
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Speaker 1: coverage of the Super Bowl, like, you know, Al Michael's

476
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Speaker 1: and Collingsworth and the pregame and all that stuff. Yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: I don't know, it was fine. I didn't really hear.

478
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Speaker 1: I couldn't really hear any of the were popping, but

479
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Speaker 1: the Miller lights like oh yeah, but I mean like

480
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Speaker 1: the Russians were in saga. I thought the venue looked amazing,

481
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Speaker 1: and I think it's it's the perfect kind of cap

482
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Speaker 1: to the season having you know, as we said, the

483
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Speaker 1: weather was beautiful and just such a beautiful stadium. I

484
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Speaker 1: mean that little pond they have out in front, I mean,

485
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Speaker 1: just every it's quite a it was well, it's it's

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Speaker 1: all that part of it's well done. Um, you know.

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Speaker 1: As far as like new interesting stuff, I didn't really

488
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Speaker 1: get a lot of Wow that was cool. How they did?

489
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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes the Super Bowl has those like you know,

490
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Speaker 1: random cameras or things that they do that little technology pumps. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't really catch any any of that.

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Speaker 1: It's just I don't overall, the game just felt and

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe that's because it wasn't really rooting

494
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Speaker 1: for anybody in a like active interest really, I just

495
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Speaker 1: kind of was more focused on food and drink. From myself,

496
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Speaker 1: I don't like the game as much when he has

497
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Speaker 1: no vested interest. I just felt like there was no

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Speaker 1: juice today. I thought the rock intro was stupid. Yeah. Uh,

499
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Speaker 1: Rodney Harrison dropped a bomb before the game talking. He

500
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Speaker 1: was the one that started the whole Aaron Donald. If

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Speaker 1: he wins, he's gonna quit talk. I don't know if

502
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Speaker 1: he's talking out of school or making it up or what,

503
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Speaker 1: but he's the one that started that. Rodney better. I

504
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Speaker 1: hope he wasn't talking out of school. I wouldn't want

505
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Speaker 1: to be on that guy's bat No, yeah, so yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: yeah Mayo commercial. I thought they kind of ripped off

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Speaker 1: that he t office linebacker right down to like the whip.

508
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Speaker 1: I was that was the most surprising one. I had

509
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Speaker 1: no idea he did that. I mean, that's like a

510
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Speaker 1: day that you have to take, you know, to do

511
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Speaker 1: to shoot that. It's not like you go show up

512
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Speaker 1: for a couple of hours. He took him like thirteen

513
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Speaker 1: years to realize, Yeah, he's out of the league and

514
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Speaker 1: he coaching. Now. Another that was I was shocked to

515
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Speaker 1: see that him in that commercial. Yeah, it was funny.

516
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Speaker 1: He's he's he's got a good sense. He Mayo has

517
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Speaker 1: a good personality. But again I would direct people back

518
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Speaker 1: to Terry Tate office linebacker, which I mean, was that

519
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Speaker 1: was very funny when it came up, and I mean

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Speaker 1: they still had the every It was very similar. Tip

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Speaker 1: Tip used to do that in the kitchen. After that,

522
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Speaker 1: he didn't probably, yeah, Terry Tate, that was Mayo. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, Uh, I didn't. Yeah, I have

524
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Speaker 1: to sort of catch a lot of this stuff because

525
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Speaker 1: I just, yeah, I didn't really pay much attention to

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Speaker 1: the commercials and like you're asking about the production of

527
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Speaker 1: the game itself, I didn't really notice a lot of that,

528
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Speaker 1: just kind of watching the pictures as they go, you

529
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Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was, you're not watching the

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Speaker 1: game that I was, you know, I was focused. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what did you think? I thought? I thought NBC did

532
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Speaker 1: a really good job with the game. I thought al

533
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Speaker 1: Michaels had a good, good call. Collinsworth was good. You know.

534
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Speaker 1: I didn't like that they didn't really talk about that

535
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Speaker 1: that holding call, Like they're watching the replay and like

536
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Speaker 1: you clearly see and the replay there's not much there. Well,

537
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Speaker 1: they didn't really say, oh, that's a bad call. No,

538
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Speaker 1: they want you to tell me it's a bad call.

539
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Speaker 1: They did. They had a long pause and then Collinsworth

540
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Speaker 1: was like, I don't see it. Yeah, yeah, not much there.

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Speaker 1: I mean I think you said there wasn't much there. Yeah,

542
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: like that, like, no, tell me it's a bad call. Like, well,

543
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Speaker 1: I got annoyed. I don't know if you guys caught

544
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: and Matt had this in the in the show sheet today.

545
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Speaker 1: You guys don't pay attention to this though I read

546
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Speaker 1: the show I do. Mattum he had the link to

547
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Speaker 1: the pool report from the post super Bowl and they

548
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:46,479
Speaker 1: asked about that the t Higgins play, and I just

549
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Speaker 1: sort of incredulous that that Ron Tolbert could say that

550
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Speaker 1: they didn't feel like there was a polling grab on

551
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Speaker 1: the face. Matt. I mean the whole play happened because

552
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 1: the receiver ripped the defensive back down by the face. Yeah, like,

553
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Speaker 1: I mean it was offensive apparence. Did you get about

554
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: did you see it in real time? Yes? See, I

555
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it, and then they showed It's like,

556
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Speaker 1: oh that's what like like real time. I didn't know

557
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: about the face mask real time, right, that's what I'm

558
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: talking about. He reaches out and knocks him down. You

559
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: could see that clear his day. That's offensive passing efference

560
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 1: forget about like face mask. And then to see it, like, oh,

561
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: they didn't even have to say the guy took a dive.

562
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,119
Speaker 1: He grabbed him by the face, Like, I don't know

563
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 1: how they missed that call, and then to double down

564
00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 1: on it and say that they didn't think it met

565
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: the level of face mask because there was no pulling

566
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Speaker 1: grab or something like that. Actually what it was twisting

567
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,120
Speaker 1: grab by the face and pulled him down and pulled him.

568
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: He pulled him. Yeah. I think the thing that bugged

569
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,479
Speaker 1: me just about the Wilson holding call was like, this

570
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: is a linebacker that kind of cover cooper call. That

571
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: was a bad if you can't even like touch him, Yeah,

572
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: that was what he supposed to do. What are you

573
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: supposed to do? Yea? And that would have set up

574
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Speaker 1: fourth and goal, right, that was the third I think

575
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,280
Speaker 1: that was third down, and I think that would set

576
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: up fourth and goal from the eighth, which is a

577
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 1: low percentage play. Now they you know, unlike most people

578
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 1: that are talking about it, the game would not have

579
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,440
Speaker 1: been then been over. The Rams had all three time outs, right, yeah,

580
00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: so they still would have been able to you know,

581
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: force a punt, which they had done constantly throughout the

582
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: second half, and had a chance to go back, but

583
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 1: certainly made life easier once they had that first and

584
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: I knew they were going to score. But then I

585
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: thought Burrow was gonna do it. I thought he was

586
00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 1: gonna get in position for those three, but they just

587
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 1: couldn't figure out Aaron Donald, did you see? And I

588
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 1: hate these still shots, you know, I don't like this.

589
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: I don't think still shots tell you a whole lot

590
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Speaker 1: about what goes on in an NFL game. But the

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00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,959
Speaker 1: one on that last play that they showed that Jamar

592
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 1: Chase was was pretty oh yeah. But by that I

593
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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if if the coverage sort

594
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Speaker 1: of read the pressure, no, but you can came up.

595
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: You could see Burrow he's no position to throw the ball. No,

596
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Speaker 1: I know, but it was that why Chase got open

597
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: right right right right? Or if there was say, well

598
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: the guy fell down just okay, this defender was on

599
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: the ground, but he felt like it wasn't because of it.

600
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: He felt half fell down. So yeah, it's too bad

601
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: because that would have been dramatic. Yeah, last one up

602
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: like Brady to Randy Moss at the end. Can you

603
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: imagine I'd love to see a super Bowl like that, though,

604
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: with the last second bomb to like come from behind

605
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 1: the other coach gets fired. Let's go let that happen

606
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Speaker 1: coverage five five Ticket outline web radio at Patriots dot

607
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 1: com is the email address. Uh, let's go to the

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Speaker 1: Ace ticket out line. Kathy is on the line. What's up, Kathy? Kathy? Ah?

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Speaker 1: Oh not there? You can call back? Uh, Chris with

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Speaker 1: a T I A N Hey Christian, Hey, guys, what's happening? Nothing?

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Speaker 1: What did you do to Kathy? She got in front

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Speaker 1: of me. Okay, so she'll call back later. Warri um

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Speaker 1: I did have a question about this upcoming off season

614
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: and as far as getting UM players in particular through

615
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Speaker 1: the draft and you know, guys that are ready to

616
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Speaker 1: contribute right away. And I finished Mike's UM and Matt's

617
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: two thousand and one Odyssey was great, by the way

618
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: that that last episode to wrap everything up, and you know,

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Speaker 1: Poldi's in there at nauseum throughout the series talking about

620
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Speaker 1: the type of players that they wanted to get that year,

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Speaker 1: and it was not going to be players that we're

622
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Speaker 1: going to be at the top of everybody's free agent list,

623
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Speaker 1: but they we're gonna be guys that they were going

624
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Speaker 1: to bring in that they were going to coach up.

625
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Speaker 1: And now you don't have the really the coaching to

626
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Speaker 1: coach it up. Understanding that you have Bill, but back

627
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: then you had Charlie, you had Romeo. You know, you

628
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 1: had just the slew of experienced guys. And now I

629
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: feel like it's so important to get talented guys that

630
00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: can come in right away and that athletic ability can

631
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 1: can take over and then they can they can learn.

632
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Speaker 1: I wanted to get your thoughts on that. You know,

633
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: we can't like reach for these guys anymore in the

634
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 1: second or third round and and project you know, two

635
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: to three years, like you got these guys that can

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Speaker 1: come in and help right away. Do you do you

637
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Speaker 1: agree with that? I do to a point. I think

638
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 1: that we've talked a lot about the Patriots dominance allowed

639
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: Belichick to take chances in the draft, some of which

640
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 1: paid off wildly. You know, just think about Gronk and Hernandez.

641
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 1: You know, Gronk for health reasons, Hernandez for a lot

642
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 1: of other reasons, were guys that the Patriots could afford.

643
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: Now they could have drafted those guys, and Gronk could

644
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Speaker 1: have just as easily been Rossi dolling right. You could

645
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Speaker 1: have been a second round pick whose injuries prevented them

646
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: from ever doing anything, and the Patriots would have been,

647
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: you know, still in contention for super Bowls every year

648
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 1: because of the structure they had with the greatest quarterback

649
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: who's ever played. But you able to do that, I

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00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: don't to Christian's point, I'm not sure you can take

651
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Speaker 1: a guy like that now early in the draft. I mean,

652
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: you can take flyers late in the draft like like

653
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: everybody else thinks, but you can't invest a first or

654
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: second round picking a guy who you're you're not sure

655
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,520
Speaker 1: is going to be healthy enough or well will be

656
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, staying out of trouble. Yeah. Well, the Alabama

657
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: receivers jump to mind, because I mean, I think that's

658
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 1: a popular one right now with Williams and Metchi that

659
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: two guys the tore A cls that you know that

660
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: and I think some people still think that way of

661
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: this is how you get a guy like you know,

662
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Speaker 1: who might potentially be a top ten picky at towards

663
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: a cl but you might have to wait till next year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. See now I would take a shot

665
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: and it got like I think Metchi, if you get

666
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Speaker 1: him in the second round, like, I think that's fine,

667
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: Like because to me, it torn a c L is

668
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: not the same as a back problem. Like there's there's

669
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 1: no real evidence that Metchi and Williams will not be

670
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Speaker 1: able to play in the NFL. Like there was a

671
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Speaker 1: chance that people people had doubts that Gronk would ever

672
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 1: be able to play, you know what I mean, Like

673
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: he missed his whole last year at Arizona. I mean

674
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Speaker 1: even easily had what multiple easily had multi multiple twenty

675
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Speaker 1: acls and again first round, Like I'd rather not take

676
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Speaker 1: I'd rather not take a guy in the first round

677
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: that I have to Richard. And I think that those

678
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: two Alabama receivers will be pretty close to red shirts.

679
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: I think they got they got they toilet recls very late. Yeah,

680
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 1: you know in the last guy, I mean that was

681
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: like what January thirteenthish or something like that. Yeah, you

682
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: know it's like O BJ right now, you're gonna sign

683
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: him in free agency, like he's probably not going to

684
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: be ready to go same knee too, yeah, second time. Yeah,

685
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Speaker 1: And I was talking to one of our guys who

686
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: played football at a relatively high level in college, and

687
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: he blew out his knee and he said that, you know,

688
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: there's three ways to do it, and one of them is,

689
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,080
Speaker 1: you know, you take a piece of the hamstring. But

690
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: once you do that, you can't really do it again,

691
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 1: you know, so then you have to go to cadaver route,

692
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: you know. So it's a question of how they fixed

693
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: it the first time, um can can affect how they

694
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Speaker 1: go about it the second time. Yeah. I did read

695
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Speaker 1: something that the second time is less less time in

696
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: terms of the comeback you can come. But I don't

697
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: know how that works. I don't you know. You know

698
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: that David Chow, the NFL doc. Yeah, he was the

699
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: one I read that with a lot of times. The

700
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: second the second recovery can be shorter. But he said,

701
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: you'll be really really up against him being ready to go. Yeah,

702
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: you know for the season. That's why it was crying

703
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: forget about one all right, Christian. But I think Christian's

704
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 1: point largely is accurate. I think that you have to

705
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,719
Speaker 1: be a little bit. I'm not saying you can't take chance.

706
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: It's like Mike says, I would I would roll the

707
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 1: dice on one of those Alabama receivers not in the

708
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: first round, though. I think they need help. I think

709
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: they need talent right now. Yeah, they were in a

710
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 1: different spot, but you might have to be a little

711
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 1: bit more certain with the picks that you make. Jefferson, California, Hey, Jeff, gentlemen,

712
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 1: Jeff oh, Paul, Paul, Paul, Paul, So I am I

713
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: weep for you for the off season. You guys mentioned

714
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 1: that last play in the Super Bowl where Chase beat

715
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey like a rented mule, and Paul, I weep

716
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: for the off season, blonami that you were going to

717
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: be able to have about the Greg Badars of the

718
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 1: world and everyone else about offensive line play after they

719
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: let Burrow go out there and get absolutely obliterated for

720
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: four quarters and give up a record number of facts

721
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: and they were a blade of grass from winning the

722
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: Super Bowl on that play, right, So I'll still have

723
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 1: my Blena. You don't worry about it, Okay, good? Like

724
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,879
Speaker 1: I mean, in all seriousness, like obviously no one would

725
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: tell you. You know, let's be as bad as we can.

726
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 1: You know, at any element of the game, they need

727
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: to improve their offensive line. But this is two years

728
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,239
Speaker 1: in a row a team made it to the Super Role.

729
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,479
Speaker 1: You're telling me you can get to the super Bowl,

730
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: but you could never win it with that kind of

731
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 1: an offensive line. I mean, isn't that kind of silly.

732
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: You're good enough to get all the way to the

733
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: championship game, but you're not good enough to win it,

734
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: because yeah, you gotta really stretch offensive. Is it your

735
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: fatal flaw in the biggest moments? Shest you? But I'd

736
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: be more willing to say it's my fatal flaw. You

737
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: can beat bad teams with a poor offensive line, but

738
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: once you start playing three teams in the playoff. Okay,

739
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,399
Speaker 1: except except for the won three playoff. But it's Joe

740
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: Burrow and people are gonna be mad at me. But

741
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: what if you put Mac Jones behind that offensive line?

742
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: Oh he did. Oh, they wouldn't have been as good. Right,

743
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: they wouldn't have been right. But if you have an

744
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:41,760
Speaker 1: elite quarterback, he can overcome it. Yeah, to a point,

745
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: and some people might have been than the fatal flaw

746
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:47,959
Speaker 1: that game was actually having Key Ryan run on Park.

747
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jeff on that. That's like overthinking it.

748
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: You know, they'll never think, they'll never give him the ball. Yeah,

749
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: there's a reason why, but that's what they do. They

750
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: use him as their third down back, like he's James

751
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 1: White or something like this special player like Joe Mixon

752
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: to me is like pretty close to Alvin Kamara. I

753
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. Yeah, he's a good

754
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 1: all around running back. And they take him off the

755
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 1: field on third down for p rid like just losing

756
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 1: with your best players. Lose with your best in those

757
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: big spots. Yeah, all right, Jeff, thanks for the call. Appreciate. Hey,

758
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: some news kind of just dropped some content news content news, Apple,

759
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 1: you know. The Apple announced today it has ordered The Dynasty,

760
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: a new documentary events series about the New England Patriots

761
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 1: from Brian Grazer and Ron Howard. Wow Howard Yeah, Imagine

762
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: hats their company in association with NFL Films, to join

763
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: its unscripted slate. The ten part docuseries Ten Parts Parts,

764
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: is based on the critically acclaimed New York Times best

765
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: selling book by author Jeff Benedict. With unprecedented access to

766
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: the New England Patriots, Benedict spend two years inside the

767
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 1: organization and chronicled the rise and historic twenty year run

768
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: of the Patriots during the Brady Belichick Craft Era. The

769
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: documentary series directed by Emmy nominated filmmaker Matthew Hamachek, who

770
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: did Tiger. Oh, of course, we'll go deeper, drawing on

771
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: thousands of hours of never before seen video footage and

772
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 1: audio files from the Patriots organization's archive. The filmmakers also

773
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: have been given access to the organization during the twenty

774
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: twenty one season and are conducting hundreds of interviews with

775
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: past and present Patriot players, coaches, and executives, along with

776
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 1: staff writers, along with league officials in the arch rivals

777
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,319
Speaker 1: of the most dominant sports dynasty. I can get on

778
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: board with this documentary series. If I get in it

779
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It's a big break Hollywood, is what

780
00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: I was waiting for an oh seven, the Undefeated season,

781
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:58,839
Speaker 1: just trying to think of there's anything. No, that's that's

782
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: pretty much it, so that it doesn't say when, does

783
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: this say when it's coming out? No, well, not anytime soon,

784
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,840
Speaker 1: because no one's contacted me for ten parts. But that's

785
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 1: how many teams have a ten part documentary? How do

786
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:14,919
Speaker 1: you break them up? Is that like a season each?

787
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Or yeah? I don't know a couple, but um, I

788
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: love I'm really I really like the documentaries. I like

789
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: the format, and I think when they're you know, did

790
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 1: you guys watch the Terry Bradshaw One? No, No, okay, no,

791
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: good show prep Steelers. So this is going to be

792
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: on Apple Plus, I guess yeah, Apple, Apple TV Plus.

793
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: All right, they plussed it up. Yeah, they plussed it up.

794
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: It was just used to be. So that's basically just

795
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,919
Speaker 1: their streaming service. Yeah, exactly. I'm trying to keep track

796
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: of everything. Everything's up, but I mean thousands of hours

797
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 1: and yeah, so the question is what can they bring

798
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: to this that we don't already know? Because I read

799
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 1: the book Dynasty, good book, good book. I thought the

800
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: early part of the book was some stuff that you know,

801
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: I probably hadn't heard before. But once he got into

802
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: like twenty and ten and on, there wasn't I didn't

803
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:12,759
Speaker 1: think it was much new. I mean, that's not you

804
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: shouldn't be the barometer. You have a good feel for

805
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: these things, Okay, But I'm just wondering, like what in

806
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: this is gonna be even more than the book? You know?

807
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 1: But like I would say, like I watched The Brady

808
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 1: Man in the Arena yea, and very very little in

809
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 1: there was not known already, but I still found it entertaining. Yeah,

810
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: you know when I go out of my way to

811
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: watch it. No, it was sent to me every week,

812
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 1: so I watched it sent to me. Right. Well, it's

813
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: much like the thirty thirty documentary and the Tuck Rule.

814
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: I you know, I got a you know, a screener. Yeah.

815
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: I think. The thing that I like about these and

816
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: Paul I was right, like, you know, there's not like

817
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 1: a lot of Oh I didn't know that, but I

818
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,960
Speaker 1: think what I like about it it's just hearing the

819
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 1: players that went through it and felt the same way

820
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,320
Speaker 1: I did as a fan. You have that shared experience, aience,

821
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: and I think just to hear you know, player Patriot

822
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: a being devastated by a loss and you remember, oh man,

823
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: I was so mad after that like that, That's the

824
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: key is who were they talking to? And maybe they

825
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: can add an insight that you hadn't heard before, you know. Um,

826
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,800
Speaker 1: so so this is is this like done like in

827
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: conjunction with us and whatnot? Yeah? Oh yeah, they've been around.

828
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: I've I've met Jeff and we've helped them out with stuff.

829
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: But I didn't you know, Ron Howard and Brian Great.

830
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: I mean those are big names. Yeah, you wouldn't know

831
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: Douce big imagine, I know, yeah, Cunningham. So you know

832
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: it's gonna be well done for sure. Yeah yeah, yeah,

833
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean I would, I would really good. I mean,

834
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: Ron Howard doesn't really attach his name to to, you know,

835
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: projects that aren't well done. Right. It's funny because I

836
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,359
Speaker 1: think you could do You can do a ten part

837
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,279
Speaker 1: documentary about the Patriots dynasty. You could also probably make

838
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,439
Speaker 1: a one part about the controversies of what people really

839
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: want to know and what the real things are. Oh yeah,

840
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,400
Speaker 1: it's just a one part sixty minutes of You're not

841
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: going to see any of that that will blow up.

842
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, but I'm sure it'll be. It'll be

843
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: well done, and it's great to relive it and be good,

844
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: good chicken soup for the soul for Patriots fans. But

845
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 1: does it end at eighteen? Super Bowl fifty three? They

846
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: said they said that? What I mean? They said that? Um.

847
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 1: The filmmakers have also been given access to the organization

848
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: during the twenty twenty one season and are conducting hundreds

849
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 1: of interviews with past and president Patriots players, coaches, and executives.

850
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:38,919
Speaker 1: So what do you think so staff writers through last

851
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: year and I know that, Um, on several occasions they

852
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,760
Speaker 1: had request for us to film certain things during games

853
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, so we helped them out with it.

854
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, so right through the season, so there's

855
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: probably gonna be stuff from last season, um that will

856
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: be new to this that wasn't even in the book. Yeah,

857
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: how do you tie it together? And I mean, just

858
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: give me Bill, let me tell me something, tell me

859
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: something I haven't heard Belichick. That's I'll give you a

860
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: little inside. Um. I guess they were granted you know,

861
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 1: one on one with Bill, and it went for an

862
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: extensive amount of time. Like Bill was very gracious and

863
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: gave them a lot of time. That was that was

864
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: my question, Like did he cooperate? Yeah, no, he was

865
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah, because he does seem to have he

866
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: never wants to look back, but I think he does

867
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: have a good sense of history. So you know, as

868
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: it gets into NFL films historical area, then he's like,

869
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,240
Speaker 1: we'll sign me up for that. Like if it's local

870
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: media outlet wants to talk about the game last week,

871
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: forget it. But you know, as we get further out

872
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: from that stuff. I'd love to hear his his perspective now.

873
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: So it doesn't say when this is going to come out,

874
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: but if they're doing ten parts thousands of I mean

875
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: this probably is going to be like a year from now.

876
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: I would think at least right a lot of work.

877
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe twenty twenty two. No mention that the

878
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: following team around for the twenty twenty two season. Yeah,

879
00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 1: so good stuff, like you know, can't wait? All right?

880
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: FIST five hundred is the a stick at hut Line

881
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: web radio at patrios dot com is the email address?

882
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 1: Get a lot of emails coming in? Uh spe writes

883
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: in from Fresno. I was pretty hyped to see Cup

884
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 1: take over the game on that drive and he didn't

885
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: disappoint you just felt it was about to happen. But

886
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: then that holding call came. It ruined the whole game

887
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: for me. I was just like, oh, so that's how

888
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:28,720
Speaker 1: this season ends. Disappointing, deflating. At best, it's a makeup

889
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: call for the Ramsey face mask. At worst, the fixes

890
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: in either way, there's diminished credibility and fun when the

891
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:39,040
Speaker 1: refs start calling an entirely different game when it matters

892
00:44:39,120 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: most at the end of the Super Bowl total lane crap. Yeah,

893
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 1: that's just the thing with a fish. Just be consistent.

894
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,239
Speaker 1: I think it was a bad call, but so we're

895
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: saying because there was one call, like now, it was fixed,

896
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 1: so it was Was it fixed for Cincinnati originally? Is

897
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: that hell? It worked? That was a mistake, but then

898
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: they had to fix it, Jack writes in and Anaba.

899
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 1: Among the lessons from la Super Bowl victory over Cincinnati

900
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,400
Speaker 1: is that a great quarterback, a great receiver, and a

901
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: very good defense might get a team to the Super Bowl,

902
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: but without a great offensive line, that great quarterback will

903
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: struggle mightily under relentless pressure from a super Bowl caliber

904
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: defense that will sack and harass him throughout the game.

905
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow had two big plays in the entire game,

906
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 1: one which resulted from a fantastic catch and one which

907
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: resulted from a chase was perfect, he said, he said,

908
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: He said, a resulted into fantastic. It was a fit.

909
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 1: He had one hand. I know it was a really

910
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 1: good catch, but it was a perfect throw. I mean,

911
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,560
Speaker 1: let's not just throw it throw out of him. That's

912
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: you can. You can you can compliment chase without taking

913
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: it away. From your binkie. Uh, Cincinnati was out of

914
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: those two. Chase would be the binkie. He a guy

915
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 1: that you told me you know, came on late. I

916
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: was gonna say, you know, he's the rookie of the year, right. Uh,

917
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: Cincinnati was lucky to even have a chance to win. Well.

918
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: The Patriots take this lesson to heart by selecting an

919
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: offensive tackle in either the first or second round of

920
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 1: the upcoming draft. Yes, I would agree with you that

921
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 1: Cincinnati was lucky to be in the game. I would

922
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: agree with that. That's the only thing I agree with

923
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,719
Speaker 1: in that whole email. Though Cincinnati was fortunate that old

924
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: BJ got hurt. I think the game was going to

925
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: be a blowout. I think the Rams are vastly superior

926
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: to Cincinnati. Yeah, Tony writes in one of the Bengals

927
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: sigh thought and said so at the time. The coach

928
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: made a critical error early in the game by going

929
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: forward on fourth down at about the fifty yard line.

930
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: Had the d played really well in the one to

931
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: two series, The d had played really well in the

932
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 1: one to two series up to that point, the risk

933
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: outweighed the benefit could have pinned the Rams deep. Instead,

934
00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: they had a short field and scored a touchdown. Wasn't

935
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: that the first drive of the game for the Bengals, No,

936
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: it was later. I think there might have been another one,

937
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: but I think it was the second drive. And um yeah,

938
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: I also thought Hecker had a bad game. He did.

939
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:11,760
Speaker 1: I agree? Yeah, the hold right, that was the hold

940
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: was all him? But Fred's right? Good? Yeah, because he

941
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,760
Speaker 1: used to be a weapon according to Bill Belichick. Anymore,

942
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: what's with the last couple of weeks in these coaching

943
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: gambles see also Todd Bowls all out blitzing instead of

944
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: playing a too deep safety defense. Well those are two

945
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 1: different things. Yeah, Like a lot of people go for

946
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: it on fourth down. Yep, Well you're looking that up.

947
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: I am uh James and Brisbane. I haven't heard from

948
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: him in a while. A thought sprung to my mind

949
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 1: last week, and I wanted to ask for your thoughts

950
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: on it in the form of a couple of questions. Firstly,

951
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,880
Speaker 1: could you see that it was the first drive of

952
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 1: the game. It was Cincinnati fourth and one from the

953
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: forty nine yard line. They got stopped, so the whole

954
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 1: like the defense, but it didn't happen again. Did they

955
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,759
Speaker 1: do it again? They got stopped in the last fourth down. No,

956
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 1: I mean like fourth and one. All right, Anyway, this

957
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 1: is about the Super Bowl locations. By the way, could

958
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: you see the game going back to New York for

959
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:17,800
Speaker 1: a second time after after the next three in Arizona, Vegas,

960
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 1: and New Orleans. I remember one of the big complaints

961
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: for forty eight was that New York City was so

962
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: big the week's events felt like they got swallowed by

963
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: the location. No, I hope not so. The Bengals went

964
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:32,560
Speaker 1: for three fourth downs in the game. Okay, but the

965
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: first one that he's talking about was the Bengals first

966
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: possession of the game. The Rams got the ball, drove, stalled, punted,

967
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Cincinnati started to drive, stalled, and got stopped at midfield.

968
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:45,319
Speaker 1: Then the Rams went in and scored. Okay, so it's

969
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: not like the Bengals. Yeah, the whole Bengals defense. There

970
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: was nobody thout. Yeah, that had yet to be established, right,

971
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,120
Speaker 1: But now I think the Bengals defense did play pretty

972
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:57,720
Speaker 1: well in the game. Yeah. Um. Secondly, which other NFL

973
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: city could buy the ability to host Super Bowl with

974
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: a new stadium. It sounds like Chicago might be pushing

975
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,880
Speaker 1: for a new stadium. It might get one from that.

976
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,279
Speaker 1: Chicago's pushing for a new stadium. They just put that in. No,

977
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: they didn't. They renovated. Yeah, yeah, they needed but it

978
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: was a huge what's the what's the what's the horse

979
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 1: track in Illinois? There's a I can't think of the

980
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: name of it. There's a that's the psyche that they

981
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: want to do a new stadium, Okay someone Yeah, a

982
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,279
Speaker 1: lot of listeners. And I think history says that if

983
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: you build a new stadium and it's a big one,

984
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: like not Gillette Stadium, but you know you you might

985
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 1: get a super bollet regardless of of climate and potential. Yeah,

986
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: I'd be curious how the like just generally if they

987
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: build an indoor one. Yeah, how was I wonder how

988
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: LA was just generally for you know, like you guys

989
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 1: always talk about what it was like getting around, we

990
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: were trapped at the mall, all that kind of stuff.

991
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: I wonder how LA was because La can be so

992
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: spread out, traffic tough to get everywhere. I wonder how

993
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: that all worked out or if because it seems like

994
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: they built this place knowing this was what it was

995
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,960
Speaker 1: going to become, So maybe it's really there's a time

996
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,920
Speaker 1: honored tradition during Super Bowls where the media bitches and complaints.

997
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but I didn't hear that this year. That's

998
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: because they were in LA. Yeah. Well yeah, I didn't

999
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: hear a lot of like, oh this is awful or

1000
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,840
Speaker 1: about But I think form like the East Coast guys,

1001
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 1: they're done at like three o'clock our time, and you

1002
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: know their time, which is like six o'clock, right, and

1003
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: they go out in golf or whatever they did, you know, best,

1004
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: and it changes the best. Yeah. Finally, I hate the

1005
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: idea of playing a Super Bowl in London or anywhere internationally,

1006
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: especially in that toilet bowl of something ground. Uh, keep

1007
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,240
Speaker 1: it in the USA and move preseason and regular season

1008
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: around instead. I don't know. I just don't know how

1009
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 1: you get it on TV at a reasonable time where

1010
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 1: you're not going to take a hit to your TV numbers,

1011
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: because I think that's probably a huge piece of what

1012
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: they want. I mean, you like it starting it around

1013
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 1: six thirty Eastern time, you know. Yeah, what do you

1014
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: think of the Saturday thing that people talk about? No,

1015
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: I think they should do it on Sunday, but do

1016
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: it on the day before, uh, presidents, so that we

1017
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,759
Speaker 1: have the holiday the next day. Yeah, we're gonna move

1018
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: it back another week. It was already insufferable this year. Yeah,

1019
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 1: well when they hit Paul, when they have eighteen games,

1020
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to and they're gonna have eighteen games

1021
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: regular season games. Okay, so okay, yeah March. They're not

1022
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: gonna move the season. They're gonna just play more games,

1023
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: move the super Bowl. More regular season games? Will you

1024
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: played in January? Probably it's a bad that's a bad move. Yeah,

1025
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:53,320
Speaker 1: stay at three preseason that is probably gonna drop to two. Yeah, yeah,

1026
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:58,399
Speaker 1: ain't that'll work. Um Sean writes in from Vancouver. Pick

1027
00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: one player the Patriots resign who was currently an unrestricted

1028
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: free agent, one player to trade, and one to cut.

1029
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: My choices would oh, he doesn't give us choice. His

1030
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 1: choice would be resigned j C. Jackson, trade Nikil Harry,

1031
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:15,399
Speaker 1: and cut Dalton Keene. I mean that we can't do that.

1032
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 1: That's too too broad. It's too broad. You have to narrow.

1033
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 1: I want to resign all the good players, trade all

1034
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 1: the bad ones and the injured ones. I'm just gonna cut. Yeah,

1035
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 1: let's see what you did. Adam along the kind of

1036
00:52:30,239 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 1: the same lines, writes in what's your idea of a

1037
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 1: dream offseason from a roster standpoint, My three main points

1038
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: would be signed Chris Godwin, draft a left tackle in

1039
00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,239
Speaker 1: the first round, and figure out the J. C. Jackson situation.

1040
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, would that would all makes sense. I don't

1041
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: want to disappoint people, but like Chris Godwin, like that

1042
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: caliber of player. I don't think he is getting signed

1043
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: in free agency by the Patriots. I don't think so either,

1044
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: not unless the ACL is like cut his price tag

1045
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,399
Speaker 1: in half, which I don't think will be the case.

1046
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 1: Like if you want to say I can get this

1047
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: guy for pennies on the dollar, then sure, but I

1048
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,759
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to invest heavily in free agent

1049
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 1: receivers after investing heavily in free agent receivers last year. Yeah,

1050
00:53:15,600 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: I know, And that's I'm with you, Paul, and that's

1051
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,560
Speaker 1: what I'm a little bit. I know this offseason is

1052
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:21,400
Speaker 1: gonna suck because we got a call last week that

1053
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,120
Speaker 1: was kind of centering around it where I'm like, I

1054
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be big, splashy free agency again.

1055
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,360
Speaker 1: It's gonna be take care of in house, you know,

1056
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,200
Speaker 1: keep kind of the guys that you want and really

1057
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,160
Speaker 1: focus on the draft again and it maybe fill a

1058
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: little bit of holes. But I think, you know, kind

1059
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: of what the other previous caller talked about or sorry

1060
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: was Christian. You know, maybe maybe it's it's getting guys

1061
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,880
Speaker 1: on the offensive lines, you know, stabilizing all of that first,

1062
00:53:44,960 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: and then you know, worrying about it. It's just I

1063
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:48,920
Speaker 1: don't yea, his left tackle in the first round's not

1064
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: out of the realm now that that could happen and

1065
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 1: would be a good pick. I mean if they could

1066
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: get say that, you know, third or fourth tackle and

1067
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: the draft at twenty twenty one, right twenty one, Yeah,

1068
00:54:00,600 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: that would make that would make sense seas around there.

1069
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: By the way, if anyone's wondering or cares Eric is

1070
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: not here, um, no one's noticed. Yeah, he's under the weather. Sorry,

1071
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,080
Speaker 1: he's under the weather. I think Mac could go through

1072
00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:15,359
Speaker 1: the whole thing just playing Eric drops and he could

1073
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: probably at the illusion he's actually playing word. Uh yeah,

1074
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 1: me And Texas has a good question something you have

1075
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: to consider question, would the La Rams have won the

1076
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:30,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl in twenty and eighteen if Cooper Cup had played.

1077
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:36,320
Speaker 1: I don't think Cooper Cup was Cooper Cup then, but

1078
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,360
Speaker 1: it would have changed the game. Obviously, it would have

1079
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 1: given them another receiver and that would have been huge. Yeah,

1080
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: I'm not sure they would have won, but it would

1081
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:44,799
Speaker 1: have changed the game. I mean, certainly it was a

1082
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: game that could have gone either way as it was.

1083
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 1: So you add a good player to their offense to

1084
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 1: go with Mount Cooks and um Bobby Trees. Yeah, that

1085
00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: would have would have certainly helped things. I think Todd

1086
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 1: Gurley being healthy would have would have changed things. Yeah,

1087
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,759
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley wasn't healthy in that game. Yeah, let's face it.

1088
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: The game it was three to three in the midway

1089
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: through the fourth quarter and everybody either way, nothing would

1090
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:08,960
Speaker 1: have changed that. The Patriots are gonna win the whole time.

1091
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:13,080
Speaker 1: Next question, Prene writes in I saw a thirty for

1092
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: thirty on the Tuck Rule game and that Brady said,

1093
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 1: I if that was ruled a fumble, then he thought

1094
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: he might be a backup for a long time, but

1095
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:23,400
Speaker 1: thought he could have still found a way. We can

1096
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 1: never know what could have happened because it never happened,

1097
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 1: But hypothetically speaking, what each of you guys think could

1098
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: have happened if it was ruled as a fumble for

1099
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: fun purposes. Keep up the good work. Ah. I don't

1100
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: know what the team would have accomplished, but I think

1101
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: Brady would have been the starter in two thousand and

1102
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: two and Bledsoe still would have been traded. Do you

1103
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: think if somehow, they for whatever reason whatever happened, went

1104
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:51,800
Speaker 1: to two thousand and two with Bledsoe back as the starter,

1105
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,439
Speaker 1: that Brady could have somehow taken it from him again,

1106
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I mean, but the least

1107
00:55:57,360 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 1: would have absolutely been shorter, right if he's not having

1108
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,280
Speaker 1: If Bledsoe is regains his job and there's not having

1109
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: success after you just had a guy goal would have

1110
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:12,919
Speaker 1: been what nine and three, nine and four, right, because

1111
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: they didn't you go eleven and three something like that.

1112
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't remember. But a guy just

1113
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 1: you know, tore it up over the last three months

1114
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: of the season and lost in the first round of

1115
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. So yeah, he's not going to do it.

1116
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: I personally think they would have traded bledso anyway. Now,

1117
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means. The Patriots would have

1118
00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: won in oh three and oh four like they did.

1119
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: I think everything changes. You can't really know that for sure,

1120
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:37,359
Speaker 1: maybe they win in O two instead. Maybe, and maybe

1121
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: they would have been hungry right h Sman in the

1122
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,200
Speaker 1: Bay Area. A co worker said that the Rams were

1123
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:47,120
Speaker 1: undeserving of winning the Super Bowl based on the entirety

1124
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: of their season. I had to laugh and responded by saying,

1125
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: two points. You could have given a list of ten

1126
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: teams in early December that could win the Super Bowl

1127
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:56,839
Speaker 1: and I would have seen a reason for each one.

1128
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 1: The season felt more wide open than any other recent memory.

1129
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: Another reason I had to disagree with this point was

1130
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 1: they built a team of all pros through trades and

1131
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: free agents. Saying that they are undeserving wouldn't is shortsighted

1132
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,359
Speaker 1: because since they built the team to win, it hall

1133
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 1: not like the Dolphins owner who's trying to throw games. Anyway.

1134
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was a good game, kind of choppy

1135
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 1: play in the second half and question coaching calls slash

1136
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: ref calls. Ramsd made the stops when they needed to

1137
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,320
Speaker 1: in the second half. Higgins dropping the third down with

1138
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:33,280
Speaker 1: six minutes left was huge and not talked about enough.

1139
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: That was a big drop. I don't really get these

1140
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:38,640
Speaker 1: takes that are coming out about the Rams, like what

1141
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: I'll give it to you. If you're wanting, I'll give

1142
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: you the rationality you want. It all about the Patriots, absolutely, Freddie,

1143
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: don't don't tell me this isn't don't tell me the

1144
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 1: backlash isn't Patriots related. They buy it. It's diametrically opposite

1145
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: of the way the Patriots did it. So much run

1146
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 1: can't be right, it can't be right. Well, but what

1147
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: about the Collins friend that was saying it, that didn't

1148
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: care about the Patriots? Like, what do people outside? Why? Why?

1149
00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: Why listen to beat Tom Brady? If you're asking me,

1150
00:58:08,880 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: do I definitively think that the Rams were the best

1151
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 1: team in football this year? There's an argument to be made.

1152
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: I think that they are because I think that they

1153
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,280
Speaker 1: had the talent all along and at times looked apart.

1154
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: They had some some bumps. But don't you think it's

1155
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: it's not like they went nine and eight. But don't

1156
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: you think it's an entirely different game if it's Rams

1157
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:32,080
Speaker 1: versus Chiefs or Bills. I mean, I think I think

1158
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 1: it's also an entirely different game of ob J doesn't

1159
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: get hurt, No, I know, but I think that there

1160
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs or Bills beat them well Sunday, Yeah,

1161
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 1: the way the game unfolded, yes, full strength, No, I

1162
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: saw that that ms. I'm talking with OBJ, and yeah,

1163
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: I think the Rams win, okay, but fully healthy. I

1164
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: think the Rams win. They're more talented. I mean, they

1165
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: got all the pieces. But I hear what you're saying.

1166
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: I think. I mean, I guess that's what it comes

1167
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,760
Speaker 1: back to, is that people kind of felt like Kansas

1168
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: Cea the Buffalo on their best day, probably better than

1169
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: because we're at all enamored with offense. And that was

1170
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: the best game ever because no punting was allowed. And

1171
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: I loved it. It It was wildly entertaining. The Chiefs Bills game.

1172
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 1: I loved it, And I didn't love this game Sunday.

1173
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: But I think that the Rams could have had that

1174
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: kind of an offensive game had they stayed healthy. Losing

1175
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 1: not just O b J, playing without the Higbee and

1176
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: having lost Robert Woods earlier in the year dramatically impacted

1177
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 1: their offense. Not having cam Acres all year dramatically impacted

1178
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: their offense. They were the best team. They were really

1179
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: really talented. Again, if you want to tell me that

1180
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 1: Green Bay was more talented, I'm not gonna argue, Yeah,

1181
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: I think Green Bay was really good. I think Kansas

1182
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 1: City is really good. I don't think Kansas City played

1183
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: at the level of the Rams all year. To you, No,

1184
00:59:56,480 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 1: Kansas City just kept winning games because they have know

1185
01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: mahomes and they found a way to win games and whatnot.

1186
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think they ever looked quite like themselves. Yeah,

1187
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: and I think there are some good teams. I agree

1188
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:10,960
Speaker 1: with the way the guy said it. If you ask

1189
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,160
Speaker 1: me in December, there was eight or ten teams, you know.

1190
01:00:14,280 --> 01:00:17,960
Speaker 1: I think the Bills, the Chiefs, the Rams, Um probably

1191
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: the Titans, the Cowboys, the Bucks, the Packers. I would

1192
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: have been able to make an argument for any of

1193
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,440
Speaker 1: those teams, even forty nine absolutely, Freddie, Yeah, forty nine

1194
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,600
Speaker 1: Ers are a talented team. Yeah. I don't always feel

1195
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 1: though that I need to say that whoever wins the

1196
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: Super Bowl was the best team in the league. It's

1197
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 1: it's totally unique kind of you know, it's a tournament,

1198
01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: it's it's a unique set of games. They won the

1199
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 1: last game. Yeah, I mean, I don't. I mean, I

1200
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 1: don't think and would anybody say the Giants were the

1201
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 1: best team in football seven? But they but you know,

1202
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 1: executed their matchups. And we were talking about the halftime

1203
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:53,880
Speaker 1: and like, oh, somebody said, what was your worst halftime

1204
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 1: that you saw that you were at? Said probably the

1205
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: Tom Petty one. I couldn't figure out why, I said.

1206
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: Then somebody said that was ZO seven and I was like, oh,

1207
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,400
Speaker 1: that's why I hate it. And it was ten seven

1208
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:08,600
Speaker 1: and sixty. Well whenever the school wasn't it was seven three, right, Yeah,

1209
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's probably why I hated it. In

1210
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: a dark place. In a dark place, Patty's an agawam

1211
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 1: on the A sticket outline. Hey Patty, it's up, guys. Okay.

1212
01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to get into just a couple of quick things.

1213
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: The first thing is, um, I'm I'm a little bit

1214
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:33,200
Speaker 1: worried with all the the offensive assistance that were we've

1215
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: lost this this offseason so far, just in you know,

1216
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: the whole development of Mac Jones and sort of uh

1217
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: piggyback off of that. The more I think about it,

1218
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 1: the more I would like to see them draft. If

1219
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna go and draft a wide receiver, I would

1220
01:01:52,560 --> 01:01:54,800
Speaker 1: like to see them get like a John Metchi who

1221
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 1: can play like multiple spots that has like rapport with

1222
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 1: Mac Jones, and he's a separator too. I mean he's

1223
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: a guy that gets opened consistently and sort of following

1224
01:02:06,640 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: the footsteps of what Cincinnati did and with what Miami

1225
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:12,120
Speaker 1: did this past. You're getting Wattles to team up with Tua,

1226
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: and just wanted to get your guys opinions on that,

1227
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 1: as long as you're okay with him not playing this year, right, Yeah, Yeah,

1228
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,960
Speaker 1: And I mean I think everybody's kind of on that train.

1229
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: And it's hard. I mean, I dip my tone into this,

1230
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: but you flip on John Metchi and you see him

1231
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 1: catching a bunch of awesome paths Mac Jones, and you

1232
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: know you're like, good, No, Mechi's a good player and

1233
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: this is what they need. The only thing I would

1234
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: caution about Metchi is the year that he had with

1235
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. He was like, way down the list of

1236
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: behind priorities is because they they had Wattles and Smith. Yeah,

1237
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,439
Speaker 1: I think Ruggs was already gone the year that Mac

1238
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,200
Speaker 1: Jones played. Maybe if you go back two years, so

1239
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: when Tua got hurt and Mac played the last game,

1240
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: you know a couple of games. Um, But Metchi is

1241
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 1: a good player, and I would absolutely take him if

1242
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 1: you could get him, you know, later on because of

1243
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 1: the town a c L. But I think you need

1244
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:07,440
Speaker 1: players to help you right now? Yeah, thanks Patty. Yeah,

1245
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 1: that's it's that's a tough one. I mean, I think,

1246
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: as you said earlier in the show, I think later rounds,

1247
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 1: if you could get him in the second or third

1248
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: on day two. But yeah, it's it's just you got

1249
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,959
Speaker 1: three guys that this year who gall came in and played,

1250
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: and I think you need at least three this year.

1251
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,280
Speaker 1: And it doesn't even have to be that one. Does

1252
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:28,800
Speaker 1: the fact that you have a smaller cash of picks

1253
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: to work with it in the first place, does that

1254
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 1: further discourage you from taking a risk like that, Like

1255
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: if you only have you I think they have six

1256
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,160
Speaker 1: picks right now, right, yeah, right, that's six picks. Can

1257
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,720
Speaker 1: you afford to take a guy with a twenty ACL

1258
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: who may or may not even be able to play

1259
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 1: for you next year's I'm sure that's the debate probably

1260
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 1: going on. But what do you just say, screw it,

1261
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Speaker 1: he's a good player, I can get really good value.

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01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: I get him in the third round and if even

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01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,200
Speaker 1: if he can't play for me in twenty twenty two,

1264
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a good player for the next three

1265
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: years after that, or you know, like you might lose

1266
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 1: out on it. And because another team that has more

1267
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,200
Speaker 1: already is more willing to take that show, well, those

1268
01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:11,880
Speaker 1: would be dumb teams that take ye you know, so

1269
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 1: like we may not, like we may not be the

1270
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:18,560
Speaker 1: only team willing to take the long term view on him. Yeah,

1271
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,479
Speaker 1: you know, especially a team that has what it needs

1272
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: right now. And like I've said, you can make a

1273
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 1: case for any position pretty much on the roster that

1274
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,080
Speaker 1: you need. So it's as much as you could look

1275
01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,640
Speaker 1: at like Metchi at round two. I can guarantee you

1276
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: that there's a cornerback or a tackle or a linebacker

1277
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 1: or somebody else in there that might be out there

1278
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 1: week one, and and I get the desire to find

1279
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:42,600
Speaker 1: an Alabama guy to pair with Mac who he might

1280
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,040
Speaker 1: know already. And I think there's value to that. I do.

1281
01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,880
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, you start with with Waddle and Tua,

1282
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 1: you start with Chase and Borrow, So I do think

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01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:56,200
Speaker 1: that there's some merit to that theory. But can't you

1284
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:57,920
Speaker 1: find a guy in a second or third round at

1285
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: wide receiver who doesn't have a torn a cl yep.

1286
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 1: That would be as good as John Metchi. And maybe

1287
01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 1: he doesn't have the relationship with Mac Jones, but he

1288
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,480
Speaker 1: has is probably as much talent as those guys, right,

1289
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:10,120
Speaker 1: And it's the same thing. It's now the other guys.

1290
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: The other guy might be special Williams, he might be.

1291
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 1: He might be. But still, I mean, I think he's

1292
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: got his issues of being coming from Ohio State and

1293
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean going you know, the two guys from Ohio

1294
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: State are real good too, um and there is and

1295
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: that's just it goes back to what we talk about

1296
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 1: the last two years. And here we go year three.

1297
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: Where's he going? Right? Same? Same? Is he a second rounder?

1298
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 1: Most of what I've seen second half of first I

1299
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: mean it's all over the place this year. I could

1300
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: I've seen him in like mantras ten to thirty like

1301
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:37,680
Speaker 1: throughout that well. And I want to take him in

1302
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: the host part. I don't want to receive in the

1303
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,880
Speaker 1: first round. Ye. But but but it's again day two.

1304
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:44,520
Speaker 1: There's a bunch of them. I can find a day

1305
01:05:44,840 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: receiver that's healthy, that that can help me and the

1306
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,640
Speaker 1: more edge guys tackles. Just don't ask me who it

1307
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 1: is Yeah, the edge guys, well you'll you'll see. I mean,

1308
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'm starting to dip in. But you know,

1309
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: as you see the composition of the draft, you realize,

1310
01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:58,280
Speaker 1: all right, well it's heavy edge and tackles, and you know,

1311
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: can those guys push corner backs or linebackers or receivers

1312
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 1: down the board to the Patriots. I think those are

1313
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:07,120
Speaker 1: the big ones they need. Nick and Ohio right soon,

1314
01:06:07,240 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 1: He says, thank you for an awesome and entertaining season.

1315
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 1: It's my first season listening, and I'm glad I did.

1316
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: Fun fact, he gives us Amazon decreased their route sizes

1317
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 1: by fifty percent for drivers in LA and Ohio on

1318
01:06:21,360 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: Sunday because over one hundred and twenty drivers didn't show

1319
01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:28,320
Speaker 1: up to work, uh in Kansas City the day of

1320
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: the ASC Championship games. So they anticipated that. See that's

1321
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 1: funny because they're anticipating in the Kansas City fans are

1322
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: like actual chief fan LAS drivers they're probably I don't know,

1323
01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:38,120
Speaker 1: is the super Bowl to day? Like they don't even know.

1324
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,280
Speaker 1: It's not like these like RAM fans that they have

1325
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: to like prevent it. It's Ohio, I could see. That's interesting. Yeah,

1326
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,280
Speaker 1: I wonder, like overthought that one. How many in Ohio? Like,

1327
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: what's the split between the Browns and the Bengals. I'll

1328
01:06:50,120 --> 01:06:53,439
Speaker 1: bet you there's more Browns fans, don't you think? Well?

1329
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 1: I do? You check right now? I do. But also

1330
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: they are vastly different parts of the state, right, yeah,

1331
01:06:59,520 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: they are, you know. But I just want to overall, like,

1332
01:07:03,200 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: you know, how many who's got the split? Yeah? And

1333
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 1: and is it who's got the old fans? Like I

1334
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 1: was loving you run into old fans around here that

1335
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,560
Speaker 1: let's still love the Giants, that's who they've watched. Grown

1336
01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 1: up Breton Lemonster says, did Paul just say the Patriots

1337
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: took a chance on her Nanna's because of various issues

1338
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:22,440
Speaker 1: and it paid off? I know he didn't mean it

1339
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: that way, but it made me take a double take.

1340
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: I think he just meant in the beginning right because

1341
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:30,120
Speaker 1: he had he had red flags coming in. Yeah, but

1342
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: that's that's my point. They were able to take a

1343
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,560
Speaker 1: chance on a guy like that and it and it

1344
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: I mean like you ended up getting a product. Yeah,

1345
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 1: you ended up getting a productive player. Now obviously no

1346
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,560
Speaker 1: one would take that productive player now, right, I mean

1347
01:07:43,720 --> 01:07:46,520
Speaker 1: for a couple of years. But you know, of course

1348
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 1: he's now dead. Um let's see, Callum writes in thanks

1349
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 1: for another great year of coverage. Uh now onto the

1350
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: longest offseason in sports. I only have one complaint for

1351
01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 1: the three of you. How on earth could you let

1352
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: Eric win the picks contest? How does that make you feel?

1353
01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: Beating him in the consolation he didn't win the playoffs?

1354
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: Beating him next year must be a top priority. Yeah. Yeah,

1355
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: I would like to say that that's the case, but

1356
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,759
Speaker 1: I think I speak for the three of us. There's

1357
01:08:16,960 --> 01:08:20,560
Speaker 1: nobody here willing to do any of the amount of preparation.

1358
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: He comes with a binder on every Thursday. He's got

1359
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: it all mapped out, and he still takes too long

1360
01:08:27,120 --> 01:08:29,320
Speaker 1: to make his pick. But yeah, I know this is

1361
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 1: very important Eric, It's very important. Um. You know he

1362
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:38,160
Speaker 1: needs affirmation. He is good for him, he thrives on affirmation.

1363
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:40,000
Speaker 1: I will say thanks to Paul. Though we were doing

1364
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 1: some upstairs trivia, I was I was losing Eric, and

1365
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:45,519
Speaker 1: then Paul subtly shifted to the hockey category and I

1366
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: miraculously made my made my comeback. Ye, so thank you.

1367
01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: He was doing a little uh peacocking was not was

1368
01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:57,040
Speaker 1: not having it. I was not having it. Yeah, we

1369
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: all pray for Eric. He's not feeling well today. And

1370
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,599
Speaker 1: only piece of time knew that Fred was not part

1371
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 1: of the order today. And they're like, yeah, every time,

1372
01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 1: I'm the only one getting food. This is like friends,

1373
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: and we don't have to hurry chicken fingers, screw fat

1374
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: mouth over there is that going to take? I thought

1375
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,640
Speaker 1: Matissa had gone out to get it. Oh, there he is.

1376
01:09:16,880 --> 01:09:21,400
Speaker 1: He's back there and he's monitoring Alex and yeah, because um,

1377
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: he's got to get ready because Matt's going away for

1378
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: a week big time. Yeah. I'm excited for him, I

1379
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,720
Speaker 1: really am. I get nervous for him. I don't know.

1380
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: I don't want him mess out. Apparently the show wasn't

1381
01:09:31,840 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 1: going out live. We just recorded it for ourselves, Alex

1382
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 1: with me, Alex and Pentuckett. I was satisfied with the

1383
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl. It was a good back and forth game.

1384
01:09:42,120 --> 01:09:45,160
Speaker 1: I could only imagine how hard Fred was rooting against Cincinnati.

1385
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 1: He got that royd um to the Patriots is Bill

1386
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: on an island by himself right now. I don't think

1387
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: I can ever recall the Patriots being this depleted with

1388
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:57,120
Speaker 1: his coaches I'm twenty five, so I may not be

1389
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:00,360
Speaker 1: remembering some years for sure, And I am I'm really

1390
01:10:00,439 --> 01:10:04,360
Speaker 1: worried that coaching and play could be worse this upcoming season.

1391
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: Could there be issues where people don't want to work

1392
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,040
Speaker 1: for Bill anymore? Not sure if this is the reason,

1393
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:14,960
Speaker 1: but curious as to the panel's thoughts. Ah, it's it's

1394
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,000
Speaker 1: it's not making me feel good. I mean, I just

1395
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:19,639
Speaker 1: I think if you're a Patriots fan you came out

1396
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 1: of this season, what do you want going for it?

1397
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,640
Speaker 1: I think you want your quarterback to develop? Do you

1398
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: want to you know, kind of develop the team, put

1399
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,040
Speaker 1: pieces in place to protect him, to let him have success.

1400
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 1: And you know, with Josh leaving, we're in this nether

1401
01:10:33,040 --> 01:10:36,240
Speaker 1: world right now where he's right. You got Bill Belichick,

1402
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:39,320
Speaker 1: you got former defensive and special teams coaches, but you

1403
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: don't really have an offensive guy waiting in the wings,

1404
01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: even a Billy O type, you know, back before he

1405
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: was Billy Oh. So I get it. I'm I'm and

1406
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: I mean I feel like I'm still I haven't given

1407
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: up hope. I think you know we're early in the offseason.

1408
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 1: There's gonna be stuf happening the next few weeks, I think, so,

1409
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: you know, you got to tread water for a little while.

1410
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: But I do think, I mean, I just I really

1411
01:11:00,479 --> 01:11:02,280
Speaker 1: think that Bill Belichick wants to leave. When he leaves

1412
01:11:02,320 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: this team, he wants him to be in good shape.

1413
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:05,680
Speaker 1: And I think part of that has to be, you know,

1414
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:07,760
Speaker 1: leaving some a little bit of coaching infrastructure. Now I

1415
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,439
Speaker 1: know that someone else could come in and wipe that

1416
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: all away. Um, I'm not as convinced about that. I

1417
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:17,240
Speaker 1: don't think he's Dale Carnegie. I don't. I think he

1418
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:18,800
Speaker 1: wants to. I think he wants to set a record,

1419
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,720
Speaker 1: and I think that's kind of his singular focus and

1420
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:25,639
Speaker 1: that I mean that's good in a way because even

1421
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,679
Speaker 1: if you want to say that that's a selfish focus,

1422
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 1: he's trying to win games. So that helps you too.

1423
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: If he sets the record, it's good for you. Uh.

1424
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 1: And in terms of the question, like were there other

1425
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: seasons where they had this type of brain drain, I

1426
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,519
Speaker 1: think there was. I recall, like I know there was

1427
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,200
Speaker 1: one year they lost Cronell and it's been pretty consistent.

1428
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:47,160
Speaker 1: It's been pretty consistent lately that they're losing multiples. I

1429
01:11:47,240 --> 01:11:52,839
Speaker 1: think after the eighteen season they lost um the defensive

1430
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 1: daily or uh yeah, they've had they've had seasons. It

1431
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,439
Speaker 1: just feels like it's all on offense right now. Yeah. Yeah.

1432
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: And I think what makes Graham left that year too? Right? Maybe?

1433
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:10,000
Speaker 1: Maybe I think Patrick Graham went with with in Chatto Shay.

1434
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,679
Speaker 1: They lost four or five guys after the eighteen season

1435
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: who had been good ten years each. Probably, I mean,

1436
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,360
Speaker 1: but I think part of it too is just the

1437
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: offense is such the rage right now and you see

1438
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 1: all these offenses that are so you know, diverse and

1439
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,760
Speaker 1: all that, and you're like, well, is Bill Belichick going

1440
01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 1: to be able to come up with an offense like

1441
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: that on the fly with some of his retreat assistants.

1442
01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,719
Speaker 1: That's I get it. I get it. Five five past

1443
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: five hundred is the a ticket hut line. Let's go

1444
01:12:39,080 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 1: to uh Pat No, Todd and Greenville? What's up, Todd Man.

1445
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,400
Speaker 1: I would not want to be a coach at New

1446
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 1: England this year. I think it's gonna be a really

1447
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,800
Speaker 1: hard row. I got a bad feeling that it's just

1448
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,680
Speaker 1: it's gonna be too much, and I think we might

1449
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: take a bit big of a step back this year.

1450
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,280
Speaker 1: Why do you say that because of the personnel or

1451
01:13:01,000 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 1: why do you think who's coaching the offense, who's coaching

1452
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: the defense? All the questions that Paul brought up, and

1453
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: I've read, you know, I read all the questions in

1454
01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: the mail bag, and I'm just the coaching in general. Okay,

1455
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem to be there right now. And it's

1456
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:18,519
Speaker 1: too much for Bill. That's that's crazy. Okay, seventy year

1457
01:13:18,560 --> 01:13:22,120
Speaker 1: old trying to be everything. Well, like, okay, so we're

1458
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 1: it's it's February. You know, if by April first those

1459
01:13:25,479 --> 01:13:29,240
Speaker 1: questions are answered, are you going to feel better? Depends

1460
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: who they're answered with. Yeah, okay, but so right now,

1461
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: to you, to you the thing that can hold them

1462
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:38,280
Speaker 1: back as the coaching, that's that's what you're saying. I'm

1463
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:40,880
Speaker 1: saying it. Well, even at the draft, where are the

1464
01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: people for our draft? Right? You need the coaches kind

1465
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: of you need some of their input. Yeah. Yeah, Well

1466
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 1: it's still early in the off season though, and and

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01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: uh and there probably will be some news coming later

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Speaker 1: today that will oh oh what do you know, will

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Speaker 1: be some new people doing some new things. Just stay

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Speaker 1: too to Patriots stuff. Okay, little teaser there. Oh, I'm

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Speaker 1: staying on I'm staying on the computer. Then, thank dude, Okay, Todd,

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Speaker 1: thanks for looking. What are you saying here, dude? I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I can say okay, if it isn't

1474
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Speaker 1: out there yet, you can't. But there's gonna be news

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Speaker 1: later a little bit and just some maybe a little

1476
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Speaker 1: bit of rejiggering some on a scale of one to ten,

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Speaker 1: ten being you just signed Cam Newton, you know, one

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Speaker 1: being you resigned some guy in the practice squad. What

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Speaker 1: what's uh? What would you say? The number is probably

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Speaker 1: a solid three. I'm disappointed, says News. No, it's uh. Now,

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Speaker 1: they'll just be some some rejiggering with some roles coming

1482
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Speaker 1: out this afternoon. So I just wanted to give Todd

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Speaker 1: a little bit of you know, I mean, look, everybody

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Speaker 1: what February fifteenth, Like, you know, you got a month

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Speaker 1: slim pickings. You got to go into the season like this.

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Speaker 1: It would be a little scary. But there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: back in in three weeks. Okay, Um, so what is

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Speaker 1: the news? He can't say, oh yeah, Kevin, and Dublin

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1493
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1495
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1496
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Speaker 1: His arm strength look quite weak at times this season,

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Speaker 1: It was just it was just posted on Patriots dot com.

1506
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1507
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1675
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:15,880
Speaker 1: here at Patriot Place looks forward to seeing you and

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01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: now great moments in history. I just don't want to

1677
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: race out to a lead and you know, get your

1678
01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 1: wife Brady right touchdown, you know, fourth quarter you're up

1679
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: like fourteen, or say that touchdown touchdown, like oh like here,

1680
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,080
Speaker 1: And that's what he's done to so many teams. And

1681
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 1: you understand how maddening it is when you think you

1682
01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,920
Speaker 1: got him the whole game and then all of a

1683
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 1: sudden it just clicks and it's like, oh, they just

1684
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 1: want berserker mode and you can't stop them up. I

1685
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:46,360
Speaker 1: just don't want to have a lead and have him

1686
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,679
Speaker 1: break my heart. I don't want to go through another twelve.

1687
01:26:53,720 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 1: You're gonna see me kidnapping him after the game, like

1688
01:26:55,760 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: bringing him back for what we are on the radio.

1689
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 1: That's another great moment from all right back here and

1690
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,880
Speaker 1: Patriots on filtered eight five five Pats five hundred is

1691
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,200
Speaker 1: the a stick in hut line web radio at Patriots

1692
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:16,920
Speaker 1: dot com. Me Paul Douce, Matt Morrel. Eric's out sick,

1693
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: sick under the weather, has a stomach bug. It sounds

1694
01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:22,559
Speaker 1: like nasty. Yeah, a lot of trips to the bathroom,

1695
01:27:22,560 --> 01:27:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, but like it's all like vegetables and fruit

1696
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,640
Speaker 1: that come out right. There's no men. I don't know

1697
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,360
Speaker 1: what's what's more wounded his pride that he got sick

1698
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:35,080
Speaker 1: or internal Yeah, mister healthy. You know here we are

1699
01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:38,519
Speaker 1: middle of winter. Got another six inches the other day

1700
01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 1: and we're here. You're gonna be like, you gotta drink

1701
01:27:41,680 --> 01:27:47,160
Speaker 1: apple juice or get a rading. Yeah I did. I did,

1702
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:51,000
Speaker 1: by the way, I got my snowblower back finally just

1703
01:27:51,120 --> 01:27:53,240
Speaker 1: after the snow ended. But it just wasn't it wasn't

1704
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,280
Speaker 1: worth pulling out for this one. Yeah, Yeah, you just

1705
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 1: did a Yeah, I just did a quick shovel. I

1706
01:27:58,479 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: had to shovel Sunday and Monday, and yeah, I guess

1707
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:04,840
Speaker 1: I'm getting used to it because getting jacked up. But wow, yeah,

1708
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: I'll commented on it a little earlier. Wow. Okay, big muscles. Uh,

1709
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: let's get to the A sticket outline. Eldred's in North Carolina. Hey, Eldred. Hey,

1710
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: So let's how y'all do it? Good? Good? Yeah, I'm

1711
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:21,400
Speaker 1: under the weather too. I think my training to gave

1712
01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: of COVID. Yeah, and again he was, huh, workman's comp man,

1713
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,560
Speaker 1: you got it on the job for COVID. Yeah, not

1714
01:28:32,720 --> 01:28:34,600
Speaker 1: for COVID. Give you a pay for a couple of

1715
01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,880
Speaker 1: days out. But that's about it. Okay, but Paul, just

1716
01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: agree with you, man, I think the first pick should

1717
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:45,719
Speaker 1: be James William from Alabama. You're like, William's better than Michi.

1718
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: I like William better MITCHI. Yeah, so you want to

1719
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:51,439
Speaker 1: take him in the first round and then not having

1720
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: played until twenty twenty three, he's gonna play otherwise, maybe

1721
01:28:56,800 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 1: I think he'll played twenty two. Maybe I'm maybe I'm thinking,

1722
01:29:01,360 --> 01:29:03,439
Speaker 1: but I was taken because Dick had him going twenty first.

1723
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:06,479
Speaker 1: To uh. I think the Saint or you can go

1724
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:11,640
Speaker 1: twenty ninth to Miami or thirty to Kansas City. The

1725
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: one't either one of them to have him. He's the

1726
01:29:13,960 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 1: one of them up for the tackle. And it's that

1727
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:22,200
Speaker 1: linebacker lady. Yeah, you know, twenty ninth to Miami if

1728
01:29:22,240 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: he falls down a little bit further. So, I figured,

1729
01:29:24,880 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 1: you know, that's an outside receiver, that's the go to

1730
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 1: guy with Matt, because Matt do have a little history. Yeah, Now,

1731
01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 1: what makes you think that Williams might be able to

1732
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:37,760
Speaker 1: play this year? Did you hear anything that oh he might? Yeah,

1733
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I mean guys come back months after l but what

1734
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:47,360
Speaker 1: will he be? Yeah? I mean Edelman was not quite

1735
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: right that first year he came back, you know, um,

1736
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: and he heard it in preseason. Yeah. Plus he had

1737
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 1: some help getting back if you recall. Oh no, but

1738
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,840
Speaker 1: I'm saying even with the he wasn't quite Julian edam

1739
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: in that first year. You know, was that preseason seventeen Detroit? Yeah, Well,

1740
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,639
Speaker 1: either one of those guys won't lasted the second round

1741
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,519
Speaker 1: A guaranteed to one. Okay, one of them too, Yeah,

1742
01:30:12,680 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 1: you know, because Georgia would have won if they had

1743
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:17,040
Speaker 1: those two guys. Yeah, they probably wouldn't won the championship. Yeah,

1744
01:30:17,120 --> 01:30:19,800
Speaker 1: they wouldn't won it, you know, because they went down

1745
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 1: to speak Georgia. But you know, doing I think deternament

1746
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,840
Speaker 1: whatever they had and they beat them bad then, and

1747
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:27,920
Speaker 1: they had those guys, they was healthy. They just had

1748
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: no receivers and Georgia took advantage of that. But but

1749
01:30:33,400 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: I would agree that Georgia would not have beaten them.

1750
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,360
Speaker 1: I would absolutely agree the difference in that game was

1751
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: those receivers weren't ready to step up. I agree exactly.

1752
01:30:42,439 --> 01:30:44,760
Speaker 1: But and I'm not disagreeing with you about the talent

1753
01:30:44,840 --> 01:30:48,280
Speaker 1: of the two receivers. They're great now. I think Kansas

1754
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 1: City could take that because they don't need a pressing

1755
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,200
Speaker 1: guy right away to step in. Miami, I think has

1756
01:30:54,040 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: they still have three number ones, but two a lot,

1757
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: so maybe Miami could take one of them. I mean,

1758
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think just anybody's taken a guy

1759
01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:07,800
Speaker 1: that maybe won't be available next year. Yeah, all right,

1760
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:10,479
Speaker 1: let's not going to the draft, but we see. But uh,

1761
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:13,760
Speaker 1: but those corners that wouldn't mind having, they're gone too

1762
01:31:13,800 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 1: before we even get there. So you know, like Tears

1763
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,840
Speaker 1: Stingley and when you go and the guy from all

1764
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,679
Speaker 1: from Sister Nanny, they're gonna be going in the first

1765
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,200
Speaker 1: first fifteen pie. I don't know, though, I like, I

1766
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:28,439
Speaker 1: really feel like this year it's all over the place

1767
01:31:28,560 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: with all like just the different marks, the different rankings.

1768
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: I printed it out today of of they had kind

1769
01:31:33,320 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: of like consensus rankings from some of the top outlets,

1770
01:31:36,240 --> 01:31:38,840
Speaker 1: And it's just my experience of the draft. It's just

1771
01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:41,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect. I really don't. I mean,

1772
01:31:41,840 --> 01:31:43,760
Speaker 1: you mentioned some of them, but I don't know. I

1773
01:31:43,800 --> 01:31:46,720
Speaker 1: could definitely see mention last until day two. Um, if

1774
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,360
Speaker 1: you're probably right on Williams, but Williams is the more

1775
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 1: talented player, yeah no, yeah, but yeah he's gone. But

1776
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if all both Ohio State guys, um

1777
01:31:55,160 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I think Carrett Wilson, maybe

1778
01:31:57,080 --> 01:31:59,040
Speaker 1: you might be the one I like the most of everybody,

1779
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: but um, you know, the Ohio State guys, it's it's

1780
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:04,720
Speaker 1: just tough to tell. I really don't one of the

1781
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: tackles gonna go. Now, the best Ohio State guys not

1782
01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: eligible right for the draft. Smith, that's not that one.

1783
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: That's the one. He's he's the best oh really Yeah,

1784
01:32:16,760 --> 01:32:19,360
Speaker 1: but he was a true freshman. I think, Okay, now

1785
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,240
Speaker 1: I think we watch these guys, but I don't. I

1786
01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 1: don't think. Yeah, he's not draft eligible yet, but that's

1787
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:25,360
Speaker 1: the most talented of the bunch. Yeah, that's what's weird.

1788
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 1: And then like the Drake London guy from USC, he's

1789
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 1: another one where it's it's just all over the map.

1790
01:32:29,479 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: So I don't know. Maybe there'll be more clarity as

1791
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: you get closer. And it's also it's so hard to

1792
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:34,479
Speaker 1: do the draft when you don't have Yeah, you gotta

1793
01:32:34,479 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: get it. You gotta get into a little bit and

1794
01:32:36,120 --> 01:32:39,559
Speaker 1: need a big picture of it all. Now, Dylan in Chicago,

1795
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:42,880
Speaker 1: listening to Paul talk about Obj's injury and how much

1796
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 1: that would have changed the outcome got me thinking about

1797
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: our Super Bowl loss to the Eagles. I've always felt

1798
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:49,800
Speaker 1: this way and want to get your opinions on this.

1799
01:32:50,360 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 1: If Brandon Cooks doesn't get knocked out in the first quarter,

1800
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 1: the Patriots win that game handily. Frankly, um he was

1801
01:32:57,640 --> 01:32:59,880
Speaker 1: our number one wide out and I think was good

1802
01:33:00,080 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 1: for at least one or two deep balls late in

1803
01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:05,320
Speaker 1: the game to secure the victory. Graham might have still

1804
01:33:05,400 --> 01:33:08,120
Speaker 1: had the strip sack, but it might have been a

1805
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:15,720
Speaker 1: two score game at that point. They didn't punt. Yeah,

1806
01:33:15,960 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 1: the Patriots didn't punt. Yeah, so how much more would

1807
01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,479
Speaker 1: they have scored with Cooks? Maybe they might Some of

1808
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:25,519
Speaker 1: those field goals would have been, you know, deep balls

1809
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:28,519
Speaker 1: to Cooks instead of kicking a field goal. I don't know.

1810
01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:31,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. That seemed like a big loss at

1811
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: the time. It's never good to lose. It's never good

1812
01:33:33,920 --> 01:33:36,080
Speaker 1: to lose personnel during a game. But they lay in

1813
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,080
Speaker 1: a game where you score every time you get the ball.

1814
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:40,280
Speaker 1: It probably wasn't that they lost that game because of

1815
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:43,840
Speaker 1: their defense. Correct, that's my point, you know it was

1816
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,639
Speaker 1: they still allow forty one points, they're probably gonna lose.

1817
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 1: It wasn't a deficiency on offense. For crying out loud,

1818
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: he's seventeen yards to right. I know you blocked them.

1819
01:33:54,280 --> 01:33:56,800
Speaker 1: I know you blocked the Brady achievements out of you.

1820
01:33:56,840 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: You probably remember everything about the strip sack. You remember, Paul,

1821
01:34:00,640 --> 01:34:04,120
Speaker 1: not me. I don't forget those. You just remember Brady's failures.

1822
01:34:05,400 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 1: And if Brady hadn't been striped sack and had driven,

1823
01:34:09,200 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 1: he would erect even more yards. Yeah, you know, that. Well,

1824
01:34:12,479 --> 01:34:14,680
Speaker 1: he got some yards in the next drive after that too,

1825
01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: don't forget. But but they were going to go down

1826
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:19,759
Speaker 1: at score, that is no doubt on. Yeah, that Cook's

1827
01:34:19,800 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: play just drove me absolutely bonkers though, with just trying

1828
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 1: to do too much, you know. And I'm never a

1829
01:34:25,000 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: big Cooks guy, but I mean, it doesn't help to

1830
01:34:27,479 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: lose a guy who's a big part of your offense.

1831
01:34:29,400 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: But does Danny Amadola, you know, get loose for like,

1832
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, one hundred yards that he had, right, Cooks

1833
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,840
Speaker 1: drove me. He drove me crazy too. I don't think

1834
01:34:39,880 --> 01:34:42,799
Speaker 1: he made one cut all season to avoid a tackle.

1835
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:45,880
Speaker 1: It was like, get the ball run straight, like he

1836
01:34:46,120 --> 01:34:48,640
Speaker 1: never avoided a tackle. Yeah, I mean he was. And

1837
01:34:48,720 --> 01:34:50,200
Speaker 1: then the one time he tries to do it, he

1838
01:34:50,280 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: tries to go over the guy and he's like five ten. Well,

1839
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 1: that wasn't even the play he got hurt on. That

1840
01:34:54,800 --> 01:34:57,439
Speaker 1: was play that that Mike's talking about. He just started

1841
01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: like he had like a twenty five yards completion, cutting

1842
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:08,080
Speaker 1: back and turn it and got crushed Cooks And that

1843
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:12,440
Speaker 1: was the last time we saw him. Uh Sean and Pedaluma, California.

1844
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,120
Speaker 1: You don't know, Palma, I mean, I've heard the name,

1845
01:35:15,120 --> 01:35:18,600
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Uh, it's much about California's I

1846
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:21,120
Speaker 1: would think the guys he was working hard, giants state

1847
01:35:21,160 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 1: he was working? Was he working hard? Notes to the

1848
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:26,719
Speaker 1: grindst Oh yeah, okay, writing, okay, coming up with ideas.

1849
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,240
Speaker 1: I'll cut you some slack, Mike. It is a big state, guys.

1850
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:34,479
Speaker 1: Since these defense seemed winded at the end, coaches seem

1851
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: to use timeouts exclusively for the offense. With all these

1852
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,840
Speaker 1: close games coming down to the final minute, why not

1853
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: call a time out and give your defense a blow

1854
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:51,720
Speaker 1: if a stop means winning or losing. Oh sure, yeah, yeah,

1855
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:53,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, I don't think you called timeouts

1856
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,439
Speaker 1: on defense. What you do is you just tell a

1857
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 1: guy fake an injury and then they brought your time out.

1858
01:35:58,280 --> 01:35:59,560
Speaker 1: Usually they know him to do it. You know, that

1859
01:35:59,680 --> 01:36:03,439
Speaker 1: cast your time out? Right, what, well, the guy gets

1860
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,920
Speaker 1: two minutes, it does, but not before that. Yeah, you know.

1861
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:13,400
Speaker 1: It's otherwise known as the William mc ginnis rule. Right. Um,

1862
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:17,519
Speaker 1: let's see, I don't want to go over prospects. It's

1863
01:36:17,560 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: too early. It's too early to do prospects. What are they?

1864
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:25,280
Speaker 1: What are they? Yeah? Position? Like I didn't have much

1865
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:27,439
Speaker 1: of a problem with clock management the other day. You know,

1866
01:36:27,479 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: that's that's my that's my thing. You know that I

1867
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:32,680
Speaker 1: didn't have a huge problem with clock management. I do

1868
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:38,000
Speaker 1: think the play calling was the far more significant. Like

1869
01:36:38,040 --> 01:36:41,400
Speaker 1: there's been a lot made of the nine yard game

1870
01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,439
Speaker 1: that's set up second in one twenty seconds one off

1871
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,720
Speaker 1: the clock between some like that to me is not outrageous,

1872
01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:50,360
Speaker 1: like they could have called a time out whatever. But

1873
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:53,519
Speaker 1: another words, what I'm saying is I thought they were

1874
01:36:54,240 --> 01:36:58,040
Speaker 1: well in position to a minimum get a game tying

1875
01:36:58,120 --> 01:37:00,800
Speaker 1: field goal. I don't really think they ran out of time.

1876
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:03,960
Speaker 1: They didn't. They failed to get the yards necessary. They

1877
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: got the plays off with plenty of time, but they

1878
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:13,040
Speaker 1: didn't move. Let's see, who's this jan or Yann with

1879
01:37:13,160 --> 01:37:16,439
Speaker 1: a soft j from Prague, Czech Republic, living in the

1880
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:19,920
Speaker 1: Netherlands with family in Rhode Island. How's David Crachie doing,

1881
01:37:20,840 --> 01:37:23,560
Speaker 1: He says, I would like to ask, especially Paul, what

1882
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 1: does he think about the Rams decision to snap the

1883
01:37:25,920 --> 01:37:28,320
Speaker 1: ball about three seconds before the two minute warning in

1884
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:30,920
Speaker 1: the second half the clock was running and both teams

1885
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: had all their timeouts. What I would need to know

1886
01:37:34,200 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 1: what like down. It was I remember that I was

1887
01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:40,000
Speaker 1: thinking about that was before? Was that before the defensive

1888
01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:43,160
Speaker 1: holding call? Yes, then it was a good decision, okay,

1889
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: because they needed to set themselves up that they could

1890
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 1: get the ball back if they didn't get in. Yeah, Okay,

1891
01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 1: there you go. I mean I would say, I mean again,

1892
01:37:52,439 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 1: that's just my thought is, yeah, not necessarily looking to

1893
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,000
Speaker 1: end the game with these three plays because if I

1894
01:37:58,040 --> 01:38:00,439
Speaker 1: don't get in, yeah, I want to have time because

1895
01:38:00,439 --> 01:38:03,400
Speaker 1: I think that play happened around midfield right right just

1896
01:38:03,520 --> 01:38:05,960
Speaker 1: before the two minute warning. That was well before the

1897
01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:08,040
Speaker 1: Oh was it that far? I figured they were down

1898
01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,240
Speaker 1: in the red zone? No? No, No, then even more

1899
01:38:10,280 --> 01:38:13,080
Speaker 1: so I would say, you gotta hit that. Yeah, you

1900
01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 1: gotta try to score in those situations and if you

1901
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,240
Speaker 1: get down, like let's say you have first and goal

1902
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:21,840
Speaker 1: from the eight. Now you're looking. I want to make

1903
01:38:21,880 --> 01:38:23,559
Speaker 1: sure I stay in bounds. I want to make sure

1904
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 1: I keep the clock running unless I have to. But

1905
01:38:26,160 --> 01:38:27,800
Speaker 1: I need to get in. I mean, I need to

1906
01:38:27,880 --> 01:38:30,880
Speaker 1: get in the end zone and score. Okay, I'm glad

1907
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:33,080
Speaker 1: you let us know. We have no more interaction with

1908
01:38:33,160 --> 01:38:35,840
Speaker 1: the Fonds, Mike, because Fred has left the building. We'll

1909
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 1: just have to wing it. Uh good good programming. Note.

1910
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:42,320
Speaker 1: Uh you know I will be on my station on

1911
01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 1: Sunday morning for the Football Show with Teddy Johnson again.

1912
01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:47,599
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. Teddy j Re living

1913
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:52,040
Speaker 1: some Sunday Molorado middle linebacker Glory eight to ten. Yeah, yeah,

1914
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:58,280
Speaker 1: Teddy's a oh you freaking nerds. Yeah. I guess Felgi

1915
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: had a problem with the fourth. I did you have

1916
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:03,400
Speaker 1: a huge problem with that fourth and one from the

1917
01:39:03,479 --> 01:39:06,559
Speaker 1: forty nine. I think you go for fourth and ones. Yeah,

1918
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,519
Speaker 1: I mean unless you really backed up and they weren't.

1919
01:39:09,479 --> 01:39:11,760
Speaker 1: I just think you need your best stuff. You go

1920
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:14,840
Speaker 1: with the best guys. You gotta execute, you know, you

1921
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:17,360
Speaker 1: gotta have the place. You gotta know that these these

1922
01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: situations are gonna pop up and you're gonna have to

1923
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,719
Speaker 1: be aggressive some of those spots. But so, who would

1924
01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:25,639
Speaker 1: you have said was the best team in football this year?

1925
01:39:26,040 --> 01:39:28,839
Speaker 1: Because I agree with that question that that emailer earlier

1926
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,600
Speaker 1: that said, you know, a month ago, you could have

1927
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:35,439
Speaker 1: said one of any number of teams. I think there

1928
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: was a case to be made for a lot of teams. Yeah,

1929
01:39:37,200 --> 01:39:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean I think every team that you could say

1930
01:39:39,200 --> 01:39:42,200
Speaker 1: would be a yah butt um, But I mean Tampa,

1931
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I always thought they were good.

1932
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 1: I mean we never got to see really fully healthy,

1933
01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:49,960
Speaker 1: like the defense got decimated right out of the gates

1934
01:39:49,960 --> 01:39:52,040
Speaker 1: and then their offense got decimated down the stretch, you know,

1935
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:55,680
Speaker 1: and I mean buffalo inconsistencies though, I mean, how do

1936
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 1: you lose to you know, Jacksonville, Kansas City looked like

1937
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 1: they were half asleep for three quarters of the year.

1938
01:40:01,800 --> 01:40:04,320
Speaker 1: But I think any of those teams could probably you might,

1939
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: I might say them before the Rams, But I also

1940
01:40:08,400 --> 01:40:10,640
Speaker 1: think the Rams are in the conversation because they have

1941
01:40:11,640 --> 01:40:13,360
Speaker 1: at all the pieces, you know, exactly what they were

1942
01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: going for. I'm telling you it bothers people. It bothers

1943
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: people that someone that you know. They went out and

1944
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:21,920
Speaker 1: they made a dream team quote unquote, and it worked

1945
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 1: and it bugs people. And they spent something like forty

1946
01:40:25,040 --> 01:40:28,040
Speaker 1: eight million dollars on quarterback, which is another tried and

1947
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:30,840
Speaker 1: true way that you can't succeed if you if your

1948
01:40:30,960 --> 01:40:34,960
Speaker 1: quarterback cap number is over you know, twelve percent of

1949
01:40:35,080 --> 01:40:37,200
Speaker 1: the cap and there's was like twenty five percent of

1950
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: the cap for God's sakes. Yeah, and the people don't

1951
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:42,200
Speaker 1: like and correct me if I'm wrong, but they've had

1952
01:40:42,240 --> 01:40:45,040
Speaker 1: pretty good success without the first round picks as far

1953
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:47,960
Speaker 1: as the draft. Yeah, So that's the whole thing is

1954
01:40:48,600 --> 01:40:50,559
Speaker 1: people fixate the fact that they haven't made a first

1955
01:40:50,640 --> 01:40:53,040
Speaker 1: round picking like three years or four years, and they're

1956
01:40:53,080 --> 01:40:55,719
Speaker 1: ignoring the fact that, you know, guys like Cooper cup

1957
01:40:56,360 --> 01:40:59,680
Speaker 1: or draft picks. Yeah, you know, there's there's a lot

1958
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:02,599
Speaker 1: of draft picks that have really succeeded for that team. Yeah,

1959
01:41:02,680 --> 01:41:06,120
Speaker 1: Tyler Hickby is a draft pick. Yep. Yeah, that's and

1960
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 1: that's the area that you know, and I don't mean

1961
01:41:08,120 --> 01:41:11,599
Speaker 1: this as well, we'll see, but seeing what the Patriots,

1962
01:41:11,600 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 1: what happened to the Patriots because they didn't have high

1963
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:16,600
Speaker 1: level draft success and I think that they had you know,

1964
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,840
Speaker 1: over the last five years, they had not enough, but

1965
01:41:18,960 --> 01:41:21,439
Speaker 1: they had some of those Day two and three guys hit.

1966
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:23,920
Speaker 1: But you know, where are the rams two three years.

1967
01:41:24,520 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 1: Are they still able to acquire that high end talent?

1968
01:41:26,880 --> 01:41:29,200
Speaker 1: Do they have that highend talent which the Patriots don't

1969
01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:31,080
Speaker 1: have really right now? And I think that's a big

1970
01:41:31,120 --> 01:41:33,200
Speaker 1: reason why they're kind of stuck in the middle at

1971
01:41:33,240 --> 01:41:34,760
Speaker 1: the moment. And you're talking about we need to get

1972
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 1: those high end guys. They certainly have them this year

1973
01:41:37,000 --> 01:41:40,439
Speaker 1: with Donald and OBJ. But what I think they'll continue

1974
01:41:40,479 --> 01:41:44,600
Speaker 1: to do is when these guys cycle through, you know,

1975
01:41:44,680 --> 01:41:47,720
Speaker 1: because they're probably not going to give another contract to

1976
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 1: guys like Jalen Ramsey and the like, but they'll have

1977
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,479
Speaker 1: in their minds they'll either be able to go out

1978
01:41:57,520 --> 01:42:02,040
Speaker 1: and acquire that version again because obviously they've expressed no

1979
01:42:02,160 --> 01:42:05,679
Speaker 1: reticence to give up first round picks and take established players.

1980
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:10,240
Speaker 1: And now I think the president is set. I think

1981
01:42:10,320 --> 01:42:13,519
Speaker 1: it's looking more and more in that league, like you

1982
01:42:13,600 --> 01:42:16,759
Speaker 1: can acquire talent from other teams, whether their free agents

1983
01:42:16,880 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 1: or not. It just seems like there's more trades involving

1984
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: high profile players than you ever saw before. And when

1985
01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:25,840
Speaker 1: you look at the Patriots, like, I mean, how many

1986
01:42:26,080 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: of that twenty fifteen to twenty sixteen first round picks

1987
01:42:30,080 --> 01:42:32,360
Speaker 1: are even on the team or even contributing now? So

1988
01:42:33,160 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 1: the Rams traded them away the Patriots they used them.

1989
01:42:35,760 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Rams did a pretty good job in

1990
01:42:37,800 --> 01:42:43,280
Speaker 1: the middle rounds in like nineteen twenty, you know, those drafts,

1991
01:42:43,320 --> 01:42:46,519
Speaker 1: and that's why that they've had some success. I just

1992
01:42:46,680 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: got the release from Matt Morrell. The official release, Matt

1993
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:55,080
Speaker 1: Grove named Director of player Personnel. So native of hing A,

1994
01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 1: mass Yeah, by the way, local kid. I got to

1995
01:42:58,479 --> 01:43:01,519
Speaker 1: talk to him last year when we did a season

1996
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: ticket holder, a little access thing, so I got to

1997
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:06,599
Speaker 1: interview him a little bit, which was a little bit

1998
01:43:06,600 --> 01:43:08,560
Speaker 1: strange for me to jump in and be like, so

1999
01:43:09,760 --> 01:43:12,760
Speaker 1: tell me why you know, tell me what you love

2000
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 1: about these dropticks. But no, it seemed like a nice guy.

2001
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Maybe we get to do that again, that'd be cool.

2002
01:43:17,120 --> 01:43:20,519
Speaker 1: Tom Greenville said I almost caused a car accident. He says,

2003
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,640
Speaker 1: I was driving back from dropping off my wife at

2004
01:43:22,680 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 1: work and Fred starts yakking about it's only six inches

2005
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:30,600
Speaker 1: and it's not worth being taking it out. That's what

2006
01:43:30,800 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 1: she said. I hope Matt was listening and can get

2007
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:40,839
Speaker 1: that dropped. So that was good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Frenett

2008
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: is always listening. That is true, much more so than

2009
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:48,200
Speaker 1: Paul Ben's in Pittsfield on the A ticket hut line.

2010
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 1: Hey Ben over, Hey guys, how you doing good? So

2011
01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 1: just just a two questions. Um, So, I know James

2012
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,920
Speaker 1: White got injured this season. Do you think him coming back,

2013
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:01,240
Speaker 1: if he comes back, will make a big difference. And

2014
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,519
Speaker 1: also in terms of getting that star wide receiver. Would

2015
01:44:04,520 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 1: you like to see someone or two people from the

2016
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:10,040
Speaker 1: draft or do you want to see the Patriots see

2017
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,120
Speaker 1: some of that calf space pick up a free agent.

2018
01:44:12,479 --> 01:44:14,960
Speaker 1: I'm someone that's already established themselves in the lake. All right,

2019
01:44:15,040 --> 01:44:17,760
Speaker 1: thanks guys, Okay, thanks Ben. I'd like to see a

2020
01:44:17,840 --> 01:44:21,439
Speaker 1: Day two draft pick. Sure, I've second a third rounder.

2021
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,160
Speaker 1: I think we're talking about on offense that are going

2022
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: to be with Mac. The longer the better. I'd much

2023
01:44:26,439 --> 01:44:29,200
Speaker 1: prefer to have a draft pick where it's four years

2024
01:44:29,360 --> 01:44:32,840
Speaker 1: affordable development, you get a blank slate with them. That's

2025
01:44:33,520 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 1: more preferable to me. And I mean, everybody's going to

2026
01:44:35,320 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: bring up wide receivers like they always do, and I'm

2027
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:38,720
Speaker 1: gonna be guilty of it too. But I think when

2028
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:42,360
Speaker 1: you really look at it, how much of a really

2029
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,000
Speaker 1: critical need is it right now for twenty twenty two

2030
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:46,880
Speaker 1: for them to get a wide receiver, don't I don't know,

2031
01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, I certainly to take a

2032
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,640
Speaker 1: next step, they need somebody new. But I think that

2033
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:53,680
Speaker 1: there's other areas that really if you just look at

2034
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:55,519
Speaker 1: the depth chart and say who's coming back, and who

2035
01:44:55,640 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 1: isn't and who's thirty four years old, and who's you

2036
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: know in their early twenties that you know. I don't.

2037
01:45:01,040 --> 01:45:03,559
Speaker 1: I don't see the big spending spree on free agency,

2038
01:45:03,640 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: and I don't see the SI. But I do think

2039
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver is a significant need and I would like

2040
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:11,519
Speaker 1: to get it sooner than later, because I agree with

2041
01:45:11,680 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 1: Mike in twenty twenty two, it's probably not going to

2042
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,680
Speaker 1: put you over the top, but the faster I can

2043
01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,479
Speaker 1: get a quality receiver with Mac Jones, the better. Yeah.

2044
01:45:19,720 --> 01:45:22,240
Speaker 1: So let's just say Mac makes the progression that everybody

2045
01:45:22,320 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 1: hopes that he does. And some up said, he you

2046
01:45:24,280 --> 01:45:29,160
Speaker 1: already made. Um, he says, don't you in in twenty three?

2047
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,360
Speaker 1: You want him to have a guy that he's already

2048
01:45:31,400 --> 01:45:32,960
Speaker 1: comfortable with. You don't want to then go out and

2049
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:36,759
Speaker 1: be looking for a guy who would fit with receiver

2050
01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 1: in the system. Yeah, And I think that him develop

2051
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 1: It goes back a little bit to to previous points,

2052
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 1: But I mean, I think that's what you learned from

2053
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:46,599
Speaker 1: Brady of of you got to keep trying to get

2054
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 1: those guys, those you know, game changing kind of offensive pieces,

2055
01:45:50,479 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 1: whether it's tight end, whether it's wide receiver. I just

2056
01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:55,479
Speaker 1: I don't think you can take drafts off really. Um,

2057
01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 1: I just I know people are gonna pound it like

2058
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,080
Speaker 1: it's the number one need that you got to go

2059
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,360
Speaker 1: just get that number one receiver. And I agree with

2060
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 1: the way Paul did it. And I think that there's

2061
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:05,280
Speaker 1: guys you can get in the second round. They aren't gonna,

2062
01:46:05,560 --> 01:46:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, because if you're not in the top ten,

2063
01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:12,000
Speaker 1: it's hard to get like the guy you're gonna have

2064
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,599
Speaker 1: to make a trade off, probably someone I agree with Mike. Now,

2065
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:20,280
Speaker 1: what about James White? Yeah, White, now I have to check.

2066
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:23,320
Speaker 1: I mean, definitely, but he was a rookie and fourteen,

2067
01:46:23,479 --> 01:46:25,360
Speaker 1: so I mean he's eight years in. I mean he's

2068
01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 1: he's definitely third thirties. Um, I just I don't know

2069
01:46:28,439 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: what else there is. And there's always been such thirty

2070
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:33,400
Speaker 1: right now, he's thirty, just turned thirty. There's always been

2071
01:46:33,400 --> 01:46:35,640
Speaker 1: a plan for that position, in that role, and there

2072
01:46:35,720 --> 01:46:38,559
Speaker 1: really isn't one. And we never saw anything really from J. J. Taylor.

2073
01:46:38,560 --> 01:46:40,040
Speaker 1: I'd bring him back, I would. I mean, how he

2074
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,960
Speaker 1: can't be expensive. He got hurt this last year. He

2075
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:45,280
Speaker 1: was looking good, he was you know, it looks like

2076
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:50,040
Speaker 1: connections yeah, he did. So Mac needs that guy. He

2077
01:46:50,280 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 1: needs you know, even you know Dante said he needs

2078
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 1: his bankie. Um. Now, I'm not sure if James White can't,

2079
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 1: but he can certainly be an outlet for Mac reliable,

2080
01:46:59,640 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 1: you know target. I wouldn't mind moving on, to be

2081
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:04,040
Speaker 1: honest with you, I don't know. I mean, it's a

2082
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,720
Speaker 1: serious injury. He's thirty again. I'd like to have some

2083
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:11,240
Speaker 1: guys that I think can be part of his development

2084
01:47:11,360 --> 01:47:14,080
Speaker 1: moving forward. Yeah. Yeah, I squeezed another year out of him.

2085
01:47:14,360 --> 01:47:17,320
Speaker 1: Is he better than Brandon Bolden? Yep? I think Bolden

2086
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 1: had a terrific year. I think James White would have

2087
01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:22,800
Speaker 1: been better. I think you would have probably maximized more

2088
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 1: of those opportunities. So I'm not suggesting that he's not

2089
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,559
Speaker 1: better than what you had, But I just wonder how

2090
01:47:28,600 --> 01:47:30,160
Speaker 1: many more years you're gonna get out of James. I

2091
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:34,240
Speaker 1: think that's that's all fair. I'd also put the leadership

2092
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,880
Speaker 1: element into it, of a veteran, what guys you're gonna

2093
01:47:36,880 --> 01:47:39,719
Speaker 1: lose this year? You're gonna lose Slater, mccordy, High Tower.

2094
01:47:40,160 --> 01:47:42,080
Speaker 1: You know. If that's the case, I think there's also

2095
01:47:42,160 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: something to be said for just his presence and the

2096
01:47:44,520 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 1: way that guys in the running back room, you know,

2097
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: talk about him. They love that guy. So I would

2098
01:47:49,280 --> 01:47:50,920
Speaker 1: I would take him back. But I think Paul makes

2099
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:52,960
Speaker 1: valid points, and I think it's on them for not

2100
01:47:53,080 --> 01:47:54,920
Speaker 1: drafting a guy in the last couple of years in

2101
01:47:55,000 --> 01:47:58,920
Speaker 1: developing him to replace this role Fred and Wales right soon.

2102
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:02,600
Speaker 1: Which was the more stacked team last season Bucks or

2103
01:48:02,720 --> 01:48:07,160
Speaker 1: this year's Rams? The last season Bucks, I would say,

2104
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 1: because I like Tom Brady better than Yeah, I don't know.

2105
01:48:12,040 --> 01:48:15,120
Speaker 1: I think I think at six one a half dozen

2106
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,479
Speaker 1: the other in the Ram zone though the Bucks. So

2107
01:48:18,320 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 1: also has Paul changed his mind on the Bengals after

2108
01:48:20,680 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 1: their playoff run. When asked which team would he most

2109
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:26,479
Speaker 1: like the Patriots to face of the playoffs, he said

2110
01:48:26,520 --> 01:48:30,519
Speaker 1: Cincinnati would be the easiest with their youth and inexperience. Yep,

2111
01:48:30,920 --> 01:48:36,519
Speaker 1: my answer would still be that because he's nothing but stubborn. Well,

2112
01:48:36,640 --> 01:48:39,200
Speaker 1: there's no question, there's no question that that's true. You're

2113
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 1: not picking Buffalo again. The only thing I couldn't argue

2114
01:48:42,439 --> 01:48:44,439
Speaker 1: is someone asked, someone tells me that I'm stubborn. I

2115
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 1: can't argue that. But I feel like Buffalo in Kansas

2116
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:51,599
Speaker 1: City are both better. Listen, Cincinnati beat Kansas City and nothing.

2117
01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,080
Speaker 1: No one can ever take that away from him. Yep,

2118
01:48:54,400 --> 01:48:56,280
Speaker 1: But I think the twenty one three first half was

2119
01:48:56,320 --> 01:48:58,400
Speaker 1: more indicative of the difference between those teams than what

2120
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:02,839
Speaker 1: happened after that. M Paul writes in from the Colony,

2121
01:49:03,200 --> 01:49:05,839
Speaker 1: it's in New York. I'm in the middle of reading

2122
01:49:05,920 --> 01:49:08,680
Speaker 1: The Dynasty now, and as an out of towner, I

2123
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,439
Speaker 1: was not aware of how strongly the local media voiced

2124
01:49:11,439 --> 01:49:15,160
Speaker 1: their negative opinions of both Kraft and Belichick prior to

2125
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:18,439
Speaker 1: the two thousand and one season. Paul and Fred were

2126
01:49:18,520 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 1: those writers held accountable in the subsequent years. And Paul,

2127
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 1: what was your opinion as a knowledgeable fan at the time.

2128
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:29,360
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. I understand. Well at the time

2129
01:49:29,560 --> 01:49:33,400
Speaker 1: when they hired Belichick, Yeah, it was, it was. It

2130
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:37,720
Speaker 1: was criticized. Yeah, the decision to bring in Belichick was criticized. Yes,

2131
01:49:37,920 --> 01:49:41,160
Speaker 1: you were on that show that night with talk Ted

2132
01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:44,439
Speaker 1: Saranders and run off the right topin Yeah. I mean

2133
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,400
Speaker 1: you talk about the opening game of that season too,

2134
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:48,320
Speaker 1: against since I mean they hadn't won a home game

2135
01:49:48,360 --> 01:49:50,559
Speaker 1: in like five six years when they beat the Patriots,

2136
01:49:50,600 --> 01:49:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean it was off to a bad start. And

2137
01:49:51,880 --> 01:49:54,160
Speaker 1: that was something from the Sound Odyssey that Reese said

2138
01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:55,960
Speaker 1: that was like, you know, there was I think real

2139
01:49:56,040 --> 01:49:58,160
Speaker 1: question about Bill Belichick going into that Week two game

2140
01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 1: against the Jets. I mean, I don't it's amazing. And

2141
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:07,800
Speaker 1: then what happened then? Uh nine eleven m um someone,

2142
01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:11,640
Speaker 1: I think, but with with with Richard Seymour making the

2143
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, uh Ron Borges's famous day after analysis

2144
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:20,479
Speaker 1: of that pick, even I even I feel that for

2145
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,479
Speaker 1: ron Board just now, with the amount of times that

2146
01:50:22,560 --> 01:50:26,160
Speaker 1: thing gets dug up. I mean everybody's got those and

2147
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, nobody knows anything. We all talk about the draft.

2148
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 1: I mean, there's gonna be a thousand things that I

2149
01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:32,479
Speaker 1: say this spring about the draft that's probably gonna be

2150
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:34,880
Speaker 1: one hundred percent wrong. So I don't know. I've come

2151
01:50:34,880 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: around on ron Board just I know it's such an

2152
01:50:36,400 --> 01:50:38,880
Speaker 1: easy one like the David Terrell and it's easy. But

2153
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,479
Speaker 1: oh I was all in on that. That's my famous

2154
01:50:41,560 --> 01:50:44,600
Speaker 1: I resign. It was Richard Seymour because I wanted a

2155
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:47,519
Speaker 1: wide receiver and I thought that they had a chance

2156
01:50:47,600 --> 01:50:51,760
Speaker 1: to get either him or Corn Robinson because Drew was

2157
01:50:51,800 --> 01:50:55,679
Speaker 1: the quarterback, right, Had I known that? Yeah, I mean obviously,

2158
01:50:55,760 --> 01:50:57,640
Speaker 1: if I had known Seymour was gonna be anything like

2159
01:50:57,720 --> 01:51:00,200
Speaker 1: what he was, I wouldn't have been so stubborn, right,

2160
01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:01,720
Speaker 1: So if you knew he was going to be a

2161
01:51:01,760 --> 01:51:03,320
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, you would have been okay with it. No,

2162
01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 1: if I knew he was going to be an impact play, yeah,

2163
01:51:05,680 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 1: like you look at his college resume and did not

2164
01:51:08,720 --> 01:51:12,880
Speaker 1: scream impact player at did instant too? When did you

2165
01:51:12,960 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: guys notice him in training camp? Was it? Obviously? I

2166
01:51:15,240 --> 01:51:17,720
Speaker 1: was with Barmore, I'll tell you we I think we

2167
01:51:17,800 --> 01:51:21,559
Speaker 1: had him on the radio show Freddy Um up at

2168
01:51:21,560 --> 01:51:24,720
Speaker 1: the old Patriots Club and just to kind of see him.

2169
01:51:24,760 --> 01:51:27,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't built like a regular defensive lineman, like he

2170
01:51:27,760 --> 01:51:30,040
Speaker 1: was much more lean. Yeah, Like I was like, this

2171
01:51:30,120 --> 01:51:32,120
Speaker 1: guy's more athletic than I thought. Like I was thinking,

2172
01:51:32,160 --> 01:51:34,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't rush the passer. He's a fatty, you know,

2173
01:51:34,840 --> 01:51:36,680
Speaker 1: like we took it. We took a fatty with the

2174
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:39,360
Speaker 1: sixth overall pick. I mean, what are we doing? But

2175
01:51:39,880 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: he was obviously built different. He was built different. As

2176
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,719
Speaker 1: the kids saying, yeah, it's just built different, right, teas

2177
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:48,040
Speaker 1: I used that properly he's got a check with his

2178
01:51:48,160 --> 01:51:53,000
Speaker 1: resident millennium diffy. Oh sorry, diffy um. I don't think

2179
01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:58,080
Speaker 1: my kids used diffy robbing the Cats skills Right York,

2180
01:51:58,200 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 1: Please please do nothing draft a wide receiver. Why? Because

2181
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:06,040
Speaker 1: the Patriots do not know how to identify or develop

2182
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:08,080
Speaker 1: a receiver in the draft. I've been watching for the

2183
01:52:08,200 --> 01:52:11,240
Speaker 1: last twenty years and they can't do it. Also, this

2184
01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:14,360
Speaker 1: draft sets up perfectly for the Patriots needs cornerback and

2185
01:52:14,600 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. Also, I really like Shavarius Ward as a

2186
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:25,439
Speaker 1: free agent. Love the shows. He's safety corner for Kansas Horner.

2187
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,479
Speaker 1: All right, I think of the other Ward, Are you

2188
01:52:29,600 --> 01:52:32,599
Speaker 1: gonna have to do something a corner if if Jac walks?

2189
01:52:32,640 --> 01:52:34,559
Speaker 1: I mean that's I'm surprised that there isn't more kind

2190
01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,760
Speaker 1: of handwringing about JC right now and they I think

2191
01:52:36,800 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: everybody thinks she's going to be back. Yeah. I think

2192
01:52:39,040 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 1: everybody thinks if they can't resign him, they'll just tag him.

2193
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,439
Speaker 1: I don't think it's that simple. I don't either. I

2194
01:52:44,520 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 1: think think you for your service and good luck. Yeah,

2195
01:52:51,560 --> 01:52:55,200
Speaker 1: rage and Saint Louis. I was thinking about this defense rebuild,

2196
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:57,559
Speaker 1: and I keep going back and forth on the JC

2197
01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:01,360
Speaker 1: Jackson decision. On one hand, he hasn't shown the ability

2198
01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:04,519
Speaker 1: to shut down elite receivers like Diggs, Lamb, etc. But

2199
01:53:04,640 --> 01:53:06,720
Speaker 1: on the other hand, he is by far the best

2200
01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:09,599
Speaker 1: option in the free agent market, and the best corners

2201
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: in the draft will be gone by pick twenty one.

2202
01:53:13,479 --> 01:53:16,720
Speaker 1: So I always come down to three questions. One, what

2203
01:53:16,880 --> 01:53:19,000
Speaker 1: will oh boy, I didn't even eat and I got

2204
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:22,519
Speaker 1: a little coming home. What will be the demand on

2205
01:53:22,640 --> 01:53:26,519
Speaker 1: the open market for J. C. Jackson? Very high? Second question,

2206
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:29,479
Speaker 1: how many true lockdown corners are there in the NFL.

2207
01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,920
Speaker 1: I can only count four Ramsey, Alexander, Trey White and

2208
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 1: a healthy Gilmour. JC is firmly. JAC is firmly in

2209
01:53:37,880 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 1: that next tier of guys with Humphrey, Howard, Diggs, etc.

2210
01:53:41,680 --> 01:53:43,639
Speaker 1: And if we keep holding out for one of those

2211
01:53:43,760 --> 01:53:47,880
Speaker 1: top tier guys, then we'll keep searching for years and three.

2212
01:53:48,200 --> 01:53:51,200
Speaker 1: With the increased proliferation of passing in the league, is

2213
01:53:51,240 --> 01:53:54,240
Speaker 1: it better to have higher variants players? If you take

2214
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:57,960
Speaker 1: modern baseball as an example for defensive building, either you

2215
01:53:58,120 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 1: strike out, give up big yards on a big play,

2216
01:54:01,000 --> 01:54:04,480
Speaker 1: or hit a home run get a turnover each plate appearance.

2217
01:54:05,120 --> 01:54:08,320
Speaker 1: Each plate appearance, I prefer a lockdown guy. But maybe

2218
01:54:08,680 --> 01:54:11,360
Speaker 1: with analytics and all that, these all or nothing players

2219
01:54:11,400 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 1: will become common. Whose are they all or nothing players?

2220
01:54:14,720 --> 01:54:18,960
Speaker 1: For Von Diggs? That's it, That's what he mentions. But

2221
01:54:19,120 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 1: that's it. Yeah, So I don't think that's a trend.

2222
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:25,120
Speaker 1: I just I was thinking about it a little bit.

2223
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:28,000
Speaker 1: I think everyone now assumes that they're looking for man guys,

2224
01:54:28,040 --> 01:54:30,200
Speaker 1: and I just wonder if maybe they shift and they

2225
01:54:30,240 --> 01:54:32,960
Speaker 1: put less priority and guys who can play man coverage

2226
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:36,560
Speaker 1: and travel and just play get draft, really tough, good

2227
01:54:36,640 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: tackling corners that can play off and his zone, and

2228
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, those are the kind of guys to maybe

2229
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 1: deal with, you know, Josh Allen Patrick mahons, guys that

2230
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:47,280
Speaker 1: can run like I do agree with him. Like, if

2231
01:54:47,360 --> 01:54:50,720
Speaker 1: you're if you're you know, hell bent on like a

2232
01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:58,160
Speaker 1: true lockdown, shutdown corner, you're gonna be waiting there. You

2233
01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:00,480
Speaker 1: either got a high picker or spend bunch of money.

2234
01:55:00,520 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 1: But especially if you don't think like I don't love Jackson,

2235
01:55:03,880 --> 01:55:06,240
Speaker 1: but I like him and I do think he's that

2236
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:08,880
Speaker 1: kind of player. So if you don't even put Jackson

2237
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:12,240
Speaker 1: in that category, then there are even fewer and few

2238
01:55:12,360 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 1: like because like, to me, Zavy and Howard would be

2239
01:55:14,760 --> 01:55:17,240
Speaker 1: in that category. He didn't have him in there, right,

2240
01:55:18,200 --> 01:55:21,080
Speaker 1: He had him in the next year with Jackson. Right,

2241
01:55:21,440 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: So if that's what you think, then yeah, you probably

2242
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,120
Speaker 1: should try to hold on to him. Yeah, I mean

2243
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:29,560
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's like you keep I keep going

2244
01:55:29,640 --> 01:55:32,480
Speaker 1: back to that. It's like, if not him, who you

2245
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:36,040
Speaker 1: know and a couple of them. Now go back the

2246
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:39,720
Speaker 1: previous emailer that had Ward from Kansas City, you know,

2247
01:55:40,240 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: and it doesn't have to be him individually, but a

2248
01:55:42,520 --> 01:55:47,440
Speaker 1: serviceable starter is that worth it for like a Jalen

2249
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:50,480
Speaker 1: Mills contract as opposed to giving him twenty million a

2250
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:54,880
Speaker 1: year to Jackson. So that's the you know, those are

2251
01:55:54,920 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: the kinds of things that they way back and forth. Now, personally,

2252
01:55:58,680 --> 01:56:01,200
Speaker 1: I'll take the talent. If I thought Jackson was better,

2253
01:56:01,320 --> 01:56:05,520
Speaker 1: I want Jackson. But it doesn't always work that way

2254
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:07,960
Speaker 1: with the way they do things. Sometimes it's value and

2255
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:11,640
Speaker 1: how they can fit the structure in and all that stuff.

2256
01:56:12,960 --> 01:56:16,960
Speaker 1: Claire writes in Hello everyone, Hello Marine. Hello. Apologies for

2257
01:56:17,040 --> 01:56:19,720
Speaker 1: the self indulgence, But when I emailed in last week

2258
01:56:19,800 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 1: requesting the tight End coaching job, should Nick Kayley move

2259
01:56:23,080 --> 01:56:26,080
Speaker 1: to the OC if why. I like Kayley, big fan

2260
01:56:26,120 --> 01:56:28,800
Speaker 1: of his work, but not especially interested in his tight end.

2261
01:56:29,360 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 1: I was beyond amused at Deuce's quiet despair in me,

2262
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:36,400
Speaker 1: and even more Eric and Paul's tones of it's just

2263
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,560
Speaker 1: so obvious she likes tight ends. I love you guys

2264
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:44,160
Speaker 1: so much. Okay, so my question, the mass offensive exodus

2265
01:56:44,200 --> 01:56:47,280
Speaker 1: to Vegas has me concerned? Should I be? Or is

2266
01:56:47,320 --> 01:56:50,480
Speaker 1: this just a regular situation and you guys aren't worried?

2267
01:56:51,440 --> 01:56:55,400
Speaker 1: I think you should be. Yeah, the mass exodus? Yeah,

2268
01:56:55,640 --> 01:56:57,320
Speaker 1: how's it going to translate to mac I didn't. I

2269
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 1: mean again, I think that's the piece that have You're

2270
01:56:59,720 --> 01:57:02,440
Speaker 1: moving forward the Patriots. You want him to be the

2271
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:04,280
Speaker 1: guy and to build around him, to have a plan.

2272
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:07,080
Speaker 1: And you know, right now, as we sit on February fifteenth,

2273
01:57:07,120 --> 01:57:09,680
Speaker 1: this doesn't really seem like there's you know, you're not

2274
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:13,160
Speaker 1: building the next great offense here here yet. So but

2275
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,760
Speaker 1: moves to come. Moves to come, I hope, I hope

2276
01:57:15,760 --> 01:57:19,480
Speaker 1: if it's if it's something more non offensive specific and

2277
01:57:19,600 --> 01:57:22,920
Speaker 1: just another coach comes back that maybe isn't that much

2278
01:57:22,920 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: of an expert on the offensive side of the ball,

2279
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:28,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to be concerned. James Pettigrew, the most interesting

2280
01:57:28,640 --> 01:57:30,960
Speaker 1: Patriots fan of the world, says, uh, you know about

2281
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 1: paying players. He says, whoever you overpay today will be

2282
01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:38,360
Speaker 1: underpaid tomorrow. That's largely true too, which is why if

2283
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:41,600
Speaker 1: I felt like Jackson was better, I would go with him,

2284
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,640
Speaker 1: because I got yere three or four right, Like, you know,

2285
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,600
Speaker 1: like I agree with that knows the cap going. I

2286
01:57:48,720 --> 01:57:51,800
Speaker 1: agree with that notion. At some point you got to

2287
01:57:51,800 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 1: pay for the talent. And he's right, like, when you

2288
01:57:54,320 --> 01:57:59,160
Speaker 1: sign these big deals, they don't look quite as as

2289
01:57:59,480 --> 01:58:04,120
Speaker 1: owner to two three years in sometimes yeah, as long

2290
01:58:04,160 --> 01:58:06,080
Speaker 1: as they hit, as long as they're good, as long

2291
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,800
Speaker 1: as you're investing big money and players who play well, right,

2292
01:58:09,000 --> 01:58:11,640
Speaker 1: that's the key homes Like at the time, people are like,

2293
01:58:11,720 --> 01:58:15,120
Speaker 1: oh my god, nobody's gonna care as long as he

2294
01:58:15,160 --> 01:58:17,280
Speaker 1: continues to play the way he's played so far. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just to play the other side of the street. Though,

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Speaker 1: There's there's another part of this, which is just like

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Speaker 1: this is one of the rare players that you developed

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Speaker 1: and found and can play at a high level here,

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Speaker 1: Like it just seems like too many of those guys

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Speaker 1: have come and gone and gotten paid elsewhere. You know,

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Speaker 1: Joe Tuoney is the most recent example, but you've got

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Speaker 1: one in house. He likes being here. Figure it out.

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Speaker 1: I see that. That's apples to apples. Yeah, undrafted cornerback right,

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Speaker 1: they both got big money deals. You know. Let's see

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Speaker 1: if the Patriots give it to Jackson. All right, that's

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Speaker 1: gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. We'll

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Speaker 1: be back Thursday. Um, who knows, maybe another big number

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Speaker 1: three on the Richter scale announcement. Maybe Eric will be back, yes, possibly,

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