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Speaker 2: Sorry, Tony, that's.

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Speaker 1: Going above and beyond.

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Speaker 3: Tony Michael, I want to share something with you by

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Speaker 3: all means. So today, before I came into the studio,

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Speaker 3: there was this whole situation in my home with the dishwasher,

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Speaker 3: and I'm going to spare the details, but the bottom

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Speaker 3: back together again. It's it's going great, and it's saved

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Speaker 3: my family. Basically, you know, you're supposed to constantly clean

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Speaker 3: out your dishwasher filter.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of things in the household that we're

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Speaker 1: supposed to do that we don't, right.

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Speaker 3: But that's why I'm saying it's like a pit stop,

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Speaker 3: Like your dishwasher should do a pit stop, but it

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Speaker 3: doesn't say that. I think one of the most important

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Speaker 3: parts of being an adult is realizing how much of

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Speaker 3: life is maintenance. Oh yes, the pit stops of life,

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Speaker 3: paying bills, showing up when you said you were going

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Speaker 3: to show up, being reliable to people, figure out your closet,

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Speaker 3: figuring out your refrigerator, maintenance, daily maintenance. It feels so insurmountable,

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Speaker 3: but being a mature adult is doing that stuff in doing.

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Speaker 2: It before the foins tonight before it becomes a huge problem.

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Speaker 1: Correct, And how is all of this related to today's episode.

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Speaker 2: I think you'll figure that out.

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Speaker 3: I haven't figured that out, but maybe as we get

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Speaker 3: into today's episode, it will start to make sense a

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Speaker 3: truth about life in the car and the power unit.

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Speaker 3: Maybe and maybe not. It's possible that it's totally unrelated.

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Speaker 3: And at this point I'm not in charge of the

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Speaker 3: post engineering of this podcast, but I hope they will

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Speaker 3: just play the theme song and cut me off. But

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Speaker 3: Heart podcast one on one Studios and Sports Illustrated Studios.

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Speaker 2: This is choosing sides.

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Speaker 1: Yes one, wow, wow wa.

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Speaker 4: Can you hear me?

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're a bit low?

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Speaker 4: Oh right, low, Okay, hold on, I'll move my microphone

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Speaker 4: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I feel like this is going to be a big episode.

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Speaker 1: I think it is, and I think your high is

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Speaker 1: Last week, there he is. Last week we focused on

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Speaker 1: the drivers. But if F one is the merger of

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Speaker 1: about the machine. Bernie, welcome. Can you give us a

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me. So my name is Bernie Collins.

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Speaker 4: I joined Formula one quite a few years ago now

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Speaker 4: as a mechanical engineer. I started working at McLaren, spent

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Speaker 4: hopefully trying and explain some of that to those watching

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Speaker 4: no Home.

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Speaker 1: Okay, can you give us a pitch of why being

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Speaker 4: They're not so worried about the commercial value. They're only

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the newest technology or the most advanced

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Speaker 2: The people they could describe the cars had a whole

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Speaker 4: The philosophy is just someone a high level designer will

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Speaker 4: Aerodynamics fundamentally is about producing downforce on the car, so

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Speaker 4: That there's actually there's quite a few sort you know,

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Speaker 5: Just keep talking about volvos.

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Speaker 2: I like Volvo. Layoff, stop weighing me after each episode.

443
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Speaker 5: You don't have a You don't have a Volvo.

444
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Speaker 2: Well, I have Evolva. You have a Volve. I drive

445
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Speaker 2: a Volvo.

446
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Speaker 3: Look, I just want everyone to know that I have Evolva.

447
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Speaker 3: But I used to be cool at one point. I

448
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Speaker 3: have Evolvo, don't Yeah, just own it.

449
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Speaker 2: It's Swedish.

450
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's a good car.

451
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Speaker 2: It's a good car.

452
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Speaker 3: And if I were to have three hundred of them,

453
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Speaker 3: it would be the rough equipment valent value to one

454
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Speaker 3: F one car.

455
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Speaker 2: There you go, Okay, but how many elephants?

456
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Speaker 6: Elephants are categorized as critically endangered species. Although an average

457
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Speaker 6: price on the black market can be established on the

458
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Speaker 6: dark Web. We will not be entertaining Michael Costa's question

459
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Speaker 6: as it is deemed insensitive and inappropriate.

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Speaker 5: Can you guys imagine Evolvo F one team?

461
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it wouldn't be that exciting, but everybody

462
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Speaker 3: would feel very safe.

463
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Speaker 1: That's what you want? Yeah, okay, question for you, what

464
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Speaker 1: do you think is the most expensive part on a

465
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Speaker 1: Formula one car?

466
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Speaker 2: Probably the driver is the most expensive part of it.

467
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Speaker 1: Oh, this is going to be really sad. There were

468
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Speaker 1: definitely rookie drivers on the grid right now who costs

469
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Speaker 1: less than an engine.

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Speaker 3: It's like with the US military knows that I could

471
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Speaker 3: rather kill the pilot than lose the airplane anyway, or

472
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Speaker 3: as you call him, which is also my nickname in

473
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Speaker 3: high school, the power in it.

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Speaker 1: Socially moving on, the engines are too point absolutely the

475
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Speaker 1: most expensive parts on a Formula one car. They cast

476
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Speaker 1: around twelve million pounds a year. But rest asure, that's

477
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Speaker 1: not just you don't just get one engine with twelve

478
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Speaker 1: million pounds. It is estimated that to build just one unit,

479
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Speaker 1: we're talking three point five million.

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Speaker 2: So how many power units will a team build?

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Speaker 1: Again that goes into the regulation. They will will if

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Speaker 1: they're building power units just for themselves or for themselves

483
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Speaker 1: and the others that they sell to the other teams.

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Speaker 1: So that depends, which goes back to our point about

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Speaker 1: you know, when they will argue, but our team needs

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Speaker 1: to be bigger. Don't give us a cost cap because

487
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Speaker 1: we also need.

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Speaker 2: To build right. You know, is there an FIA manual?

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Speaker 1: Yes, it's very long and it changes constantly, and it's

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Speaker 1: pain in everyone's existence.

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Speaker 2: I want to see it, can bring it in.

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Speaker 1: I've got it here.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to send it to you, okay.

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Speaker 3: No, I want to print it okay at the studio

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Speaker 3: within the next thirty It's.

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Speaker 1: Also translated in both English and French.

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Speaker 2: French.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about these power units. Yeah, but first of all,

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Speaker 3: why don't we call them engines? Or is that just

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Speaker 3: a semantic thing?

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Speaker 4: I think because when people think of an engine, they

502
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Speaker 4: think of an internal combustion engine. So the bit that's

503
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Speaker 4: burning fuel in order to turn the wails over, whereas

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Speaker 4: n F one night, we have an engine that's recovering

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Speaker 4: energy from you know, it's got a big battery associated

506
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Speaker 4: with it, so it's basically a hybridge. You know, if

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Speaker 4: we think of any of the cars out there that

508
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Speaker 4: are part electric part I see, like internal combustion. That's

509
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Speaker 4: effectively why you have it as a power in it,

510
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Speaker 4: you know, And you can't mix and match the two.

511
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Speaker 4: So you can't take Mercedes engine and Honda's battery. It's

512
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Speaker 4: all the one. So that's why we tend to think

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Speaker 4: of them as a party. And how they operate is

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Speaker 4: in terms of like the modes that they can use

515
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Speaker 4: or how they distribute the energy throughout them. It's all

516
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Speaker 4: very like bespoke to each each manufacturer. So they develop

517
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Speaker 4: it as a unit, which is why we think of

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Speaker 4: it as a party unit rather than an engine. I

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Speaker 4: probably still say engine too.

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Speaker 5: Much, but anyway, Michael, yes, are you ready for this?

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Speaker 2: What that?

522
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Speaker 5: Can you bring it into the can you bring it

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Speaker 5: into them?

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Speaker 2: Shit? Did you just to oh? Shit? Here in books?

525
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Speaker 3: This is This is the twenty twenty four Formula one

526
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Speaker 3: Sporting Regulations, which was last updated October twenty fifth. It's

527
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Speaker 3: one hundred and eleven pages. Here's what I'm going to do.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to read a random sentence, okay, okay, nineteen

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Speaker 3: point three, page nineteen. I'm going to read a where

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Speaker 3: the fuel bladder is attached to the survival cell. Fixings

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Speaker 3: must be designed so that it is pulled away from

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Speaker 3: the survival cell the attachment will fail without compromising the

533
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Speaker 3: integrity of the fuel bladder. For this assessment, the pull

534
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Speaker 3: out load for any fitting will be calculated from the

535
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Speaker 3: clamp area between the fitting and the bladder on one

536
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Speaker 3: face of the bladder. This sounds this is like a sketch,

537
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Speaker 3: almost like a comedic sketch.

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Speaker 1: Well maybe this is your We're just giving you, you know,

539
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Speaker 1: ideas for the next ques.

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Speaker 5: For some people reading this manual is the definition of fun.

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Speaker 1: And you've got the same for mass power unit. Obviously

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Speaker 1: in the fuel system, Oil Electrical Systems.

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Speaker 3: Et cetera, Page seventy one, number five conformity with the

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Speaker 3: Power Unit Homo Legation Dossier, all power units must be

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Speaker 3: delivered such as the seals required under Article two point

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Speaker 3: one six of the Sporting I mean, it's just this

547
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Speaker 3: is insane.

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Speaker 5: I think we should go go for a quick ad

549
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Speaker 5: break and then we're gonna come back and the rest

550
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Speaker 5: of the episode will We're just gonna be Michael Costa reading.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you wanted ASML people, this is a SML for

552
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Speaker 1: a FUO nuts.

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Speaker 5: Please come back.

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Speaker 3: Buckle up, We're back at it. Are they still doing

555
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Speaker 3: that turbo thing?

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Speaker 1: Oh you're talking DRS.

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Speaker 2: DRS. Yes, that's what I'm talking about. That's still happening.

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Speaker 1: That's the drag reduction system.

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Speaker 2: Yes, let's talk about DRS.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to know?

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Speaker 2: What is it? How does it work? Why do I care?

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Speaker 4: I will try so. Normally, when you're designing a race car,

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Speaker 4: you're design the front wings the side of the car,

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Speaker 4: and the rear wings to produce down force. Now, down

565
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Speaker 4: force is basically created by air flowing over a surface,

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Speaker 4: and the pressure of that air creates load on the

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Speaker 4: wing on the car on a rear wing. In very

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Speaker 4: simple terms, the more of the rear wing you can see,

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Speaker 4: the more diwing force it's created. The less of the

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Speaker 4: wing you can see, the less down force. In very

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Speaker 4: simple terms, DRS works by taken from a vertical position

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Speaker 4: to a horizontal position. Not change from vertical to horizontal

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Speaker 4: reduces the diwing force. Down force is really useful and

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Speaker 4: corner and because you're load in the car, but not

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Speaker 4: so useful in a straight line because you're slow in

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Speaker 4: the car. To create that push down you're slow in

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Speaker 4: the car. So by letting off the downing force from

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Speaker 4: the DRS. You increase the straight line speed because you're

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Speaker 4: effectively running a lower down force car.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at a giff of it right now, a

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Speaker 2: gift of.

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Speaker 1: A who knows.

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Speaker 4: In qualifying, for example, they can use DRS regardless of

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Speaker 4: the distance to the car in front, because using DRS

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Speaker 4: is quicker every lap. In qualifying, you can use the

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Speaker 4: DRS as you want in those zones of the track

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Speaker 4: that just makes the quick slab time because you're reducing

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Speaker 4: that down force. It's always quicker to have the DRS

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Speaker 4: open on the straight irrespective of how close you are

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Speaker 4: to the car in front. When you have a car

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Speaker 4: in front, in a real situation, you open in your

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Speaker 4: DRS will give you that straight line speed advantage. Plus,

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Speaker 4: because you have this car in front, you're effectively what

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Speaker 4: we call toad. And by being toad, exactly like when

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Speaker 4: you're running or on a bicycle or whatever, that car

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Speaker 4: in front is in an air gap for you, so

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Speaker 4: you rarely have some street line advantage over that car,

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Speaker 4: and then the DRS magnifies that. So it's it's to

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Speaker 4: help overtaken.

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Speaker 1: Some people still look at this and say this is

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Speaker 1: a gimmick. Why do we need this?

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Speaker 2: See it feels gimmick to me, but it.

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Speaker 1: Does put But it does again add to those strategies

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Speaker 1: of like can you give someone, can you give a

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Speaker 1: teammate a little bit of a toe? Can you get

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Speaker 1: within that one second? Can you get into.

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Speaker 3: So you're in front of me, I'm within a second

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Speaker 3: or in the DRS zone, I can hit it.

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Speaker 1: You can basically hit it. It's a little thing that

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Speaker 1: I have to hit all of those components for the

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Speaker 1: car to allow you to hit that DRS.

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Speaker 2: It is so much, so much to factuate.

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Speaker 1: Another reason why you need all of those sensors, both

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Speaker 1: on the car and on the track.

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Speaker 3: And then they will give it'll give me a push,

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Speaker 3: but then you're in front of me. You can only

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Speaker 3: do it if you're within those.

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Speaker 1: Seconds of the person in front, and so forth and

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Speaker 1: so on.

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Speaker 2: So I see, So they're.

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Speaker 1: Always trying to avoid the person getting too close because

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Speaker 1: you know that the moment they get too close, you're

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Speaker 1: basically done. Especially if you've got a good car like

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Speaker 1: the Ferraris do really good well, if you get with

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Speaker 1: it that one second, then you know you're going to

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Speaker 1: get that extra push. So you want to try and

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Speaker 1: keep people behind you. Obviously Max with Sappan doesn't have

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Speaker 1: that issue because most people are sixteen seconds behind him.

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Speaker 3: But this is a rule that they want there to

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Speaker 3: be more leaders, more different leaders.

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Speaker 1: Another way of like getting those little extra opportunities for overtaking.

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Speaker 3: Okay, how do these drivers survive crashes that I've seen?

633
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Speaker 3: You know, the car gets destroyed and they walk out

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Speaker 3: of there like drinking a latte or whatever.

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Speaker 1: So remember when we talked about the different buckets of

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Speaker 1: parts in a Formula one car, and I mentioned that

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Speaker 1: one of them that they had to get from the

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Speaker 1: FI specifically, and that was the halo. The halo is

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Speaker 1: a big part of that. Okay, that's not the only one.

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Speaker 1: There's a handful of safety mechanisms in play.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching a crash right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, which crash are you watching?

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Speaker 5: This is a joke on you. It is crashing twenty

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Speaker 5: two Silverston GP.

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Speaker 3: Is that the start taken by a spectator so they're

646
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Speaker 3: probably drunk?

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00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 2: Wow? Oh yeah, he's just fully upside down and skidding,

648
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Speaker 2: skidding into the fence.

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Speaker 1: Woof walking Hell, that's all I can hear. That was

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Speaker 1: just the start too, and he stays there for a

651
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Speaker 1: long time, trapped really, and.

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Speaker 5: Then amazingly he was actually back racing the very next week.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, that one was an interesting one because,

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Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, George Russell was behind him and

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Speaker 1: slowed down and had definitely could see the human moment

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Speaker 1: of oh, I feel like I need to stop, get

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Speaker 1: out and check because this doesn't look good. And I always,

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Speaker 1: I always wonder what goes through the minds of these

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Speaker 1: drivers when they're just like, well, we've got a race

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Speaker 1: to go and continue.

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Speaker 2: You can't look, you can't get out and check. I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, well, actually, Eric Comas coming through the second

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Speaker 2: part of flat out in six year something like one hundred.

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Speaker 5: Imagin in a race in nineteen ninety two, Erton Senna

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Speaker 5: did stop his car and you know, jumped out and

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Speaker 5: essentially saved his fellow driver's life.

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Speaker 3: I love this, But then I was the only driver

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Speaker 3: to stop, get out of his car and go and

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Speaker 3: see what conditioned commass in.

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Speaker 5: We'll have a lot more to say about the Legendaryrton Senna,

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Speaker 5: who of course himself died in a car crash just

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Speaker 5: two years after this incident. On next week's episode.

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Speaker 1: Look The good thing is we have more safety mechanisms

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Speaker 1: in Formula one than ever before. I think everyone has

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Speaker 1: gotten over like it was a passive thing. When the

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Speaker 1: halo was first introduced, drivers hated it.

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Speaker 5: I'll just say when the when the halo came out,

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Speaker 5: Max Forstappen was a vote. He was just a twenty

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Speaker 5: year old at the time but already on the grid

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Speaker 5: and he was one of the biggest opponents of that

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Speaker 5: system and he called it abusing the DNA of F one.

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Speaker 7: Right, I think as soon as I have that thing

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Speaker 7: on my car, I don't like it.

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Speaker 8: The excitement has already gone before I'm even sitting in

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Speaker 8: the car.

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Speaker 5: Of course, cut a few years later, if Hamilton didn't

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Speaker 5: have the halo on his car, the same Max for

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Speaker 5: stopping would have killed Sir Lewis Hamilton.

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Speaker 3: I mean all all change in sport is always resisted

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Speaker 3: at first, all change and everything and everything and everything.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It's really interesting though that that is our human nature

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Speaker 1: to just be like, no, not change, but it's going

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Speaker 1: to be better.

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Speaker 10: No.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree with Max. It takes away some of

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Speaker 7: the passion that Formula one is all about. And you know,

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Speaker 7: when you look at the car if it's ugly. You

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Speaker 7: know from one cars aren't ugly. They're not meant to

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Speaker 7: be ugly. And there's a reason that you know, a

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Speaker 7: Ferrari is more exciting than a Master. It's something passion

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Speaker 7: and if it looks shit.

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Speaker 2: It is shit.

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Speaker 1: They hated the aesthetic of it. They needed the look

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Speaker 1: and feel of it. We had every excuse possible and

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Speaker 1: imaginable in the book about it of why it shouldn't

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Speaker 1: be a thing. I think we've definitely gotten over and

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Speaker 1: it's proven like that is a perfect joke on news.

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Speaker 1: Crash is a perfect example of this. Save this driver's life.

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Speaker 1: In the seventies, if we go all the way back,

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Speaker 1: there was a driver named Helmut Kunning and I probably

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Speaker 1: destroyed that name. Who's actually decapitated. So you would think

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Speaker 1: they're given all of this. Yeah, that drivers, you know,

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Speaker 1: would welcome the extra safety. But again, I think the

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Speaker 1: mentality of being a Formula one driver has definitely shifted

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Speaker 1: over the years. You know, when you're in the seventies

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Speaker 1: or eighties, I think it's very different to today. I

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Speaker 1: am one of those firm believers that I don't think

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Speaker 1: we should be doing sports if they are dangerous to

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Speaker 1: people or they you know's there's a pretty good chance

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Speaker 1: that someone's going to die.

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Speaker 3: But what like Johai says, there is a violent yearning

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Speaker 3: for humanity and this sport taps into some of that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's that's part of what we enjoy about

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Speaker 3: this sport is the danger.

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Speaker 1: And again it's why you know the clips, which I

727
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Speaker 1: it just says so much about humans, but the clips

728
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Speaker 1: that do really well on the in and out the

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Speaker 1: clips of all of these crashes, and I'm just like, ah,

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Speaker 1: this was fair.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask a sad question. When was the last

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Speaker 2: death in Formula one?

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Speaker 5: It was in twenty fourteen.

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Speaker 1: The Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka, a controversial race run.

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Speaker 1: I made monsoon like conditions.

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Speaker 5: So Jules Bianchi lost control and crashed into this tractor

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Speaker 5: type thing that was actually busy removing a different car

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Speaker 5: that had just crashed.

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Speaker 8: His family has confirmed that the brain injury he suffered

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Speaker 8: is a diffuse actional injury. Now, this type of injury

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Speaker 8: is calmon amongst patients with severe head trauma and is

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Speaker 8: one of the most devastating.

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Speaker 5: Nine months later, French Formula one driver Juli Bianki has

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Speaker 5: died of injuries suffered during last year's Japanese Grand Prix.

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Speaker 5: Many have fun figures showed up at his funeral.

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Speaker 10: Including Sebastian Fertile, his fellow French countryman Romant Grogan for

747
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Speaker 10: Lipe Masa, who remember attended to him at the hospital

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Speaker 10: in Japan where.

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Speaker 5: His mother gave a heart wrenching ulity.

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Speaker 10: My baby, Without you, life will be a very grievous

751
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Speaker 10: ordeal in the future.

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Speaker 3: Where else is their cool tech in this sport? Besides

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00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 3: the safety of the driver, it's everywhere.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, technology in Formula one is not only about

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Speaker 1: finding those extra seconds of speed and improving safety and

756
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Speaker 1: improving the reliability of the car, but there's also an

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Speaker 1: entertainment value to it.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I can't think of another sport that is as visually

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Speaker 1: attractive as Formula one, Like you want to see these

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Speaker 1: cars go fast, and so they've spent countless time, effort

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Speaker 1: and money on developing on things like the onboard cameras

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Speaker 1: and the helmet cameras.

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Speaker 2: Watching an F one race to me is like entering

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Speaker 2: a new world.

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Speaker 3: It's like getting on an airplane and traveling to a

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Speaker 3: whole new galaxy where you have to present your passport

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Speaker 3: and it's like the metaverse, the but the cool version.

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Speaker 2: They have done such.

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Speaker 3: A great job of making it feel fun, cool, technologically advanced.

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Speaker 2: They crush it.

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Speaker 1: They crush it.

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Speaker 2: The TV broadcasting absolutely crushes it.

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Speaker 1: And look, we could spend hours. Actually we should have

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Speaker 1: done an episode on like the TV broadcasting. It's like

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Speaker 1: really interesting. It takes one hundred, one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: two hundred and forty cameras to broadcast an F one race,

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Speaker 1: which is absolutely wild. One of the best inventions has

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Speaker 1: been the helmet camera, what they call the driver's eye.

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Speaker 1: Mark Blunder first started the trend of like the driver's

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Speaker 1: eye all the way back in nineteen ninety four. Now

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Speaker 1: he had basically had a helmet with a camera mounted

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Speaker 1: on top of it. And it looks ridiculous, but it's

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Speaker 1: definitely not a dinky little thing, right Like it.

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Speaker 2: Looked ridiculous, like a big old camera.

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Speaker 1: The big old camera stap to his helmets. Not far

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Speaker 1: from that, the first actual proper F one helmet mounted

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Speaker 1: camera was worn by Fernando Alonso in the twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: one Belgian GP.

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Speaker 7: This just it looks like you can follow the dash,

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Speaker 7: I mean, take a view through your rouge and just

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Speaker 7: watch this.

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Speaker 1: This is hippic.

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Speaker 4: Oh so yeah, just sit back.

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Speaker 8: And listen to this.

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Speaker 1: I remember being in the paddock in twenty twenty one

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Speaker 1: and the team that had the Formula One team that

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Speaker 1: had built the helmet cam was showing me the little

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Speaker 1: camera that goes inside like the squishing us around the

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Speaker 1: helmet inside it goes into that in the foam and

801
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: it was two point five grams and I was like, wow,

802
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:28,799
Speaker 1: that's impressive and tiny, and they're like, wait till you

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Speaker 1: see next years, it's going to be even lighter. And

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Speaker 1: they stay true to their word. The helmet cam is

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Speaker 1: now one point five grams, which is insane. What it's tiny,

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Speaker 1: and it offers this incredible view and there's a bunch

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00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: of other views that's really interesting. So they keep adding

808
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: different cameras with different camera angles to bring us closer

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00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:51,080
Speaker 1: to the sport because there's nothing. That helmet camview basically

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00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: gives us the view of the driver within the car

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Speaker 1: and what they see.

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Speaker 3: Which I got say, I gotta watch some right now.

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00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: It's the helmet cam is remark not steady. You feel

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Speaker 3: like this is a violent, aggressive car I'm in. It's

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Speaker 3: really hard to keep your eyes off of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: More importantly, this is cool in the sports school blahlah blah.

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Speaker 3: But how does any of this tech help me?

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Speaker 2: Tony?

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Speaker 1: Okay? Michael Michael. Yeah, there's a lot that gets developed

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Speaker 1: inside of Formula one that trickles down into road cars,

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Speaker 1: which makes sense. There's also a lot that gets developed

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Speaker 1: inside of Formula one and the Formula one teams that

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Speaker 1: trickles down into a variety of other sectors. Actually, got

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Speaker 1: a fun fact for you. Love fun facts, We love

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Speaker 1: the fun facts.

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Speaker 5: We love.

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Speaker 1: The rearview mirrors on the car first started out when

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Speaker 1: cars were racing and they wanted to eliminate the need

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Speaker 1: of a second person in the car that would tell

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Speaker 1: you who's coming up behind you. And they thought, well,

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Speaker 1: let's replace the human and put in this rearview mirror.

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00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: So the review mirror that we have in our cars

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Speaker 1: first started out with racing.

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Speaker 4: Obviously, your road car isn't going to have big wings

836
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Speaker 4: on it, so the aerodynamic stuff maybe doesn't trickle down,

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Speaker 4: you know, as directly to what you see on the road.

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Speaker 4: But the main things that we see are materials. So

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Speaker 4: you know, carbon fiber is a big one where we

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Speaker 4: see a real drive for lighter materials that are still strong.

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Speaker 4: The other things that we see are the power units

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Speaker 4: of the engines, so trying to make them efficient, like

843
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Speaker 4: using the batteries. How can we get you know, the

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Speaker 4: best out of the fuel, How can we make a

845
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Speaker 4: greener So there's a big drive in that direction. And

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Speaker 4: then some of the stuff that's maybe not seen in

847
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Speaker 4: the outside world, but how we manufacture, so a lot

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Speaker 4: of you know, we used to manufacture all over the

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Speaker 4: world by taking a big bit of metal and cotton

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Speaker 4: bits away, and now we manufacture by like addedive manufacturer,

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Speaker 4: where we basically build up little bits of metal that's

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Speaker 4: not so wasteful. So there's a lot of pussion sort

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Speaker 4: of the manufacturing side and how we do stuff. And

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00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 4: you know, the software side is going the same way,

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Speaker 4: and that's some of what we do in terms of

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00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:10,279
Speaker 4: traction control or like a BS you know, all those

857
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Speaker 4: sorts of things. They were they were people who there's

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Speaker 4: a lot of software people in the background thinking how

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Speaker 4: can we make this car go faster? And obviously if

860
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Speaker 4: you can have traction control or launch control or any

861
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 4: of those things that on your f one car, that

862
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 4: makes it makes a better night because they've tried to

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Speaker 4: bring it back to the driver. A lot of those

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Speaker 4: things in F one have actually now been made illegal,

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Speaker 4: but they were big development bits and F one and

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Speaker 4: even things like you used to have an F one

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Speaker 4: like active errow so like that each of the wheels

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Speaker 4: could be controlled separately, or like active active dampers, or

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Speaker 4: sort of a lot of like software type control things,

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Speaker 4: which now is in a lot of cars where you

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Speaker 4: can change the height of your car or whatever the

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00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: case would be. A lot of that will will have

873
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Speaker 4: developed from motorsport. But the thing I'm excited about, which

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00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 4: there's a lot of talk, boy, we're trying to develop

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00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,439
Speaker 4: a synthetic fuel, And a synthetic fuel is basically going

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00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:10,320
Speaker 4: to extract carbon from the atmosphere some sort of engineering

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Speaker 4: magic and then produce a fuel. So basically, although that

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00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 4: fuel will still emit carbon as you burn it, it

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00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 4: will only admit as much carbon as it's already taken

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00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 4: in from the atmosphere. So rather than pollen oil out

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Speaker 4: of the ground, you're going to take carbon out of

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Speaker 4: the atmosphere and then produce fuel. And if we can

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Speaker 4: do that, we can use it for jet fuel. We

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Speaker 4: can use it for so many other things. And if

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Speaker 4: you could do that cheaply enough, you could replace what's

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Speaker 4: currently in your power the pump with a green fuel.

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Speaker 5: Oh, essentially, what you're describing is recycling emissions.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 2: That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: So there's things like that that you wouldn't normally think about.

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Speaker 1: But there's definitely a lot of areas that impact our

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Speaker 1: day to day lives.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you how it impacts my life. Tell

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Speaker 2: me when.

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Speaker 3: Society invests time, energy, emotions, and optimism into advancement, yeah,

896
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Speaker 3: rather than death war, we all win. Yeah, we all win.

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Speaker 3: I mean trying to improve upon something trickle down, which

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Speaker 3: trickle economics has proven to be bullshit.

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Speaker 2: But I believe in.

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Speaker 3: Trickle down optimism, positivity, desire, growth, thirst for knowledge that

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Speaker 3: only is just contagious and influences everybody.

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Speaker 1: I love that. So, Michael, what are your thoughts? Are

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Speaker 1: you a tech nerd? Are you interested in this? You

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Speaker 1: want to hear more about this?

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Speaker 3: I got one thing to say about this, Okay, Page

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Speaker 3: x eight one point two. The Homo legation dossier must

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Speaker 3: include details of all parts described as IC, PUCE EXH

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Speaker 3: and MGU dash K in the PU element column of

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Speaker 3: Appendix three of the Technical Regulations B include all documents

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Speaker 3: required and Article one of this appendix c be submitted

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Speaker 3: and updated. According to the procedure detailed in the appendix

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Speaker 3: of the regulations, a power unit will be homo legated

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Speaker 3: for the competitor once a complete homo legation dossia has

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Speaker 3: been submitted by the relevant power unit manufacturer and has

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Speaker 3: been approved by the FIA. Such approval to take place

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Speaker 3: within fourteen days from submission of the homo ligation dossier.

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Speaker 3: I can't be saying that correctly. Each power unit manufacturer

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Speaker 3: must be submitted one homo logation dot C. I find

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Speaker 3: this very interesting, but I'd rather talk about humans and

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Speaker 3: our fallibility.

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Speaker 5: Speak for yourself, Michael.

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Speaker 9: I'm a human guy. I'm a human guy.

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Speaker 5: This has been Choosing Sides F one, a production of

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Speaker 5: Sports Illustrated Studios, iHeart Podcasts and one oh one Studio podcast.

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Speaker 5: The show is hosted by Michael Costa and Tony Cowan Brown.

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Speaker 5: This episode was edited, scored, and sound designed by senior

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Speaker 5: producer Jojai may Thad Scott Stone is the executive producer

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Speaker 5: and head of audio, and Daniel Wexman is Director of

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Speaker 5: podcast Development. And production manager at one o one Studios,

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Speaker 5: a special thank you to Michelle Newman, David Glasser, and

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Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about next week, but it's

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Speaker 1: weird to talk about the future when actually the episode

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Speaker 1: of next week is going to look back at the

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Speaker 1: past of Formula one. Oh, this is the episode for

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Speaker 1: the history buff.

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Speaker 2: I love history great.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: I think it was Marcus Garvey who once said a

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Speaker 3: people without knowledge of their past are like a tree

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Speaker 3: without roots.

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Speaker 1: Let's stick into those roots.

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Speaker 2: Yep.