Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal coll that for me, I'm
Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,
Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy
Speaker 1: for dake Edo State.
Speaker 2: Is that whoo whoom? And now Dan and Ty, well,
Speaker 2: welcome back to the solid of the boys and girls.
Speaker 2: My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over
Speaker 2: there in New York, blustery city, a gentleman by the
Speaker 2: name of Dan Rubensteinster. Happy New Year, Happy New Year
Speaker 2: after twenty eighteen. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I'm a little tired. But I also
Speaker 1: have to say Ty as a longtime SEC supporter.
Speaker 2: Yeah, die hard, noted SC supporter.
Speaker 1: Just live, breathe, nap, dance, SEC Tye. It's me, mister
Speaker 1: Southeastern Conference. And what a time it is to be
Speaker 1: a supporter of the region in general and cheering for
Speaker 1: the SEC. It's all so special SHELL for particularly me.
Speaker 2: Some have said it even means more down there.
Speaker 1: You don't know, as somebody who's on the outside what
Speaker 1: exactly that means, because you're just a Yankee. Tie doesn't
Speaker 1: get the sort of the SEC fabric that has woven
Speaker 1: into my very being being an SEC fan. It's the
Speaker 1: specialist time tye, it is the specialist.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you to everyone out there for tuning in.
Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy twenty eighteen to you and yours
Speaker 2: and wherever you may be. We got a bunch of
Speaker 2: Bowl games that we need to get through this evening,
Speaker 2: not the least of which is the two semi final games,
Speaker 2: all of the New Year six and a bunch of
Speaker 2: other games. Gosh, I even lost count how many other
Speaker 2: ones we got to get through and at least say
Speaker 2: something about to give folks an idea for what's transpired
Speaker 2: here in Bowl season. A quick update on the bull
Speaker 2: pool though, before we jump in and talk about all
Speaker 2: things bulls.
Speaker 1: Did I win?
Speaker 2: No, I didn't win, You didn't win. But we had
Speaker 2: so many entries that the system will not tell us
Speaker 2: how many we have in the solid verbal group. Damn,
Speaker 2: that's pretty good, a literal overload of the ESPN circuits.
Speaker 2: We do have one gentleman who is at the top
Speaker 2: of our leader board titled Happy Holiday Bowl. He is
Speaker 2: tied for thirteenth overall among millions of entries, and then
Speaker 2: another entrant who is tied for forty fifth overall. But
Speaker 2: as a whole, the group doing very well, seemed like
Speaker 2: there was a lot of support for Bowl season. Let's
Speaker 2: get the right picks. Some tribes and failed. But nonetheless
Speaker 2: it's been a I think, a really successful bull season.
Speaker 2: I've enjoyed watching all these games. The other bit of
Speaker 2: housekeeping that we do need to address here before we
Speaker 2: get into our full throated DISCUSSI yeah, especially on a
Speaker 2: daylight today. The live show. Yeah, the live show tickets
Speaker 2: are officially back on sale.
Speaker 1: Oh, not for very much longer, Not for very much.
Speaker 2: Longer, because they're going like hotcakes. But we put them
Speaker 2: on sale earlier today in the afternoon. There are a
Speaker 2: handful left. If you do want to get out there
Speaker 2: and buy them, I would suggest you do that now.
Speaker 2: If you don't have a chance to get them before
Speaker 2: they're sold out. There will be a wait list that appears,
Speaker 2: and sometimes, as these things go, there might be tickets
Speaker 2: that come about a little bit later on the process.
Speaker 2: If you sign up for the wait list, if there
Speaker 2: is an opening, you'll be notified. Yeah, you just got
Speaker 2: to be able to act on it in fairly short order.
Speaker 2: But we appreciate everyone's support. We're still building that show,
Speaker 2: still putting it together. Hopefully I will be at full
Speaker 2: health for someone of the days. We've got a lot
Speaker 2: coming up on Saturday. But what did Brian Kelly do
Speaker 2: to you? Ty? Oh God?
Speaker 1: Were you fined before the Citrus Bowl?
Speaker 2: I was fun. Well, No, it's been a rough go
Speaker 2: for me over the last week. I've broken the world
Speaker 2: record for recolla cough drop consumption in like a forty
Speaker 2: eight hour span.
Speaker 1: They're pretty good. I just heard the I don't know
Speaker 1: if it was the cough drops or if it's chapsick,
Speaker 1: you know, the ones that have a lot of sensation.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's with like the zinc or
Speaker 1: something like that, or chapstick that really you get that
Speaker 1: tingly sensation. Yeah, I've heard those are legitimately not like
Speaker 1: in passing slangwise, they're legitimately addictive. Great. Oh, and there's
Speaker 1: a new time, Ti, there's a new time for the
Speaker 1: live show.
Speaker 2: Yes, talk to us about that, Dan, what's going on there?
Speaker 1: So we were all set to go seven to nine,
Speaker 1: great classic window of the evening on a Saturday night,
Speaker 1: you know, leaves you a little bit of time to
Speaker 1: eat beforehand, or you can eat a late dinner after whatever.
Speaker 1: Seven to nine felt so right to us and you know,
Speaker 1: we're gonna go get drinks nearby after. And then the
Speaker 1: NFL went ahead and scheduled the local Atlanta Falcons professional
Speaker 1: football team their playoff game at eight fifteen. Square in
Speaker 1: the middle and anticipating that there may be crossover with
Speaker 1: locals that are interested, we moved up our show from
Speaker 1: from seven to nine to six to eight. So doors
Speaker 1: are at five forty five pm. The show will begin
Speaker 1: promptly at six pm. We've got all sorts of friends
Speaker 1: lined up to help out and participate and show up
Speaker 1: on the stage with us, So eight pm is the
Speaker 1: new window. Six pm is when the show begins. Five
Speaker 1: to forty five doors, so we are trying to accommodate
Speaker 1: people who want to go and watch the Falcons game after.
Speaker 1: So here we are six to eight.
Speaker 2: Six to eight is the new time. As you said,
Speaker 2: doors open at five forty five. Gonna be a ton
Speaker 2: of fun. Still putting that show together. We don't want
Speaker 2: to let the lid off it quite yet, but I
Speaker 2: think it's got some real good potential. I'm pretty excited
Speaker 2: about this one. Dan, not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: It's a it's a mixed media experience, that's right, that's right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, on that note, Dan, shall we get to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Let's I'm gonna play the sound. I can't do my
Speaker 2: normal bit today. My voice is really struggle.
Speaker 1: I'll do it for you, breaking new Okay there, Wow,
Speaker 1: you are you are a struggle. But you know what
Speaker 1: you are right now? You're you kind of seem like
Speaker 1: the Clemson offense a little bit. You're here, You're you,
Speaker 1: You've shown up, You're your uniform is on, your microphone
Speaker 1: is in front of you. But man, the universe is
Speaker 1: not on your side right now.
Speaker 2: Let's let's start with the Rose Bowl, shall we. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's do that happiness Georgia fifty four Oklahoma forty eight,
Speaker 2: double overtime, Dan, what did we say about this game?
Speaker 1: This is you, ty? I mean I may have agreed
Speaker 1: with you and said that you made sense in your prediction,
Speaker 1: but you hit the rhythm of this game on the nose.
Speaker 2: Well, we had a joint prediction, yes, to start this
Speaker 2: game out, and verbal or Alli rightfully pointed it out
Speaker 2: on Twitter. In fairness, we would have forgotten about it
Speaker 2: had she not pointed it out. But oh yeah, we
Speaker 2: had this little back and forth on the preview show
Speaker 2: where I said to you, Hey, if Oklahoma goes out
Speaker 2: there and scores on three plays and eighty yards on
Speaker 2: their opening possession, would that surprise you? And he said
Speaker 2: a little bit, But six plays eighty yards that that
Speaker 2: seems about right right. Well, and behold we did combine, yeah, lo,
Speaker 2: and behold Oklahoma's opening drive. Six plays, eighty yards, touchdown.
Speaker 2: Oklahoma races out to a seven to nothing lead, then
Speaker 2: twenty one to seven, then thirty one to fourteen. It
Speaker 2: looked like this game could get out a hand in
Speaker 2: a hurry. But then one of those moments where you
Speaker 2: wonder to yourself in the back of your mind, try
Speaker 2: not to see boogieman if they're not there, but just
Speaker 2: kind of wondering, like so, if Oklahoma tries to squib
Speaker 2: a kick here, and let's just say the upman for
Speaker 2: Georgia catches it. After one play, they get into enough
Speaker 2: field goal range for Prodrigo Blanc and shipro Rego Blankenship. Yes,
Speaker 2: always looks like he's incognito. He hits a fifty five
Speaker 2: yard field goal at the end of the first half,
Speaker 2: gives them a little bit of momentum going into halftime.
Speaker 2: The big question was still how are they going to
Speaker 2: stop Oklahoma and their offense in the second half. But
Speaker 2: a little moment like that in a big game like
Speaker 2: this sometimes tends to turn the tide in favor of
Speaker 2: the team that's losing. And I think that was very
Speaker 2: much the case in the Rose Bowl. Oh for sure,
Speaker 2: one percent. It sort of just it gave them a
Speaker 2: little bit of juice. And this was a Georgia team,
Speaker 2: mind you, Even though they were down thirty one to fourteen,
Speaker 2: they were averaging at this point something like fourteen or
Speaker 2: fifteen yards per carry. There was it was some ridiculous
Speaker 2: number because of the long runs from Sony Michelle and
Speaker 2: Nick Chubb. So there had to have been there had
Speaker 2: to be a certain degree of confidence that if we
Speaker 2: just calm down, hand the ball off to our incredibly
Speaker 2: talented running backs, you know, trust our defense. The defense
Speaker 2: obviously tightened up in the second half. Baker Mayfield missed
Speaker 2: more throws than he did in the first half in
Speaker 2: the second there was there had to have been a
Speaker 2: sense of our offensive line is dominating Oklahoma up front,
Speaker 2: they are pushing around the Sooners, and let's just trust
Speaker 2: the obvious talent.
Speaker 1: On the field. And Jake frowm was fine but Jake
Speaker 1: fromm is not what makes this offense go and going
Speaker 1: into the second half, and especially for a second year
Speaker 1: coach and Kirby smartest coach in a number of enormous games, obviously,
Speaker 1: it was good to see a calm composed Georgia team
Speaker 1: not let Oklahoma get this, take this game out of control,
Speaker 1: and just fully snap into place. And that's what Georgia did.
Speaker 1: And they hung around enough to the point where what
Speaker 1: they tied it with how much time left under a minute?
Speaker 1: They tied the game with under a minute left, they
Speaker 1: take it to overtime. There was the blockfield goal that
Speaker 1: ultimately didn't matter because Sony Michelle ran it in i
Speaker 1: think on the second play, and that was that. So
Speaker 1: that strong, strong coaching, that is confidence from Georgia and
Speaker 1: unfortunately for Oklahoma just missing too much on defense and
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield probably wants three to five throws back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, and you bring up a really good point.
Speaker 2: Georgia never went into panic mode. No, And it really
Speaker 2: wasn't a case where their offense wasn't working. It's just
Speaker 2: in the first half, Oklahoma's offense was working a lot better.
Speaker 2: And so what happens they come out in the second half,
Speaker 2: they stick to the plan. They keep feeding Sony Michelle
Speaker 2: and Nick Chubb, both of whom, by the way, had
Speaker 2: monster days on the ground. Georgia's a team rushed for
Speaker 2: what was it, three hundred and seventeen yards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, over nine yards of carry and.
Speaker 2: Yeah, over nine to carry, something incredible. The truth of
Speaker 2: the matter is that Oklahoma didn't play a team like
Speaker 2: Georgia all year. We talked about it on the preview
Speaker 2: and maybe that's a big part of why we were
Speaker 2: so interested in it. But Kirby smart knew that going
Speaker 2: into the second half. He knew that he still had
Speaker 2: an advantage, still had a game plan that he could execute.
Speaker 2: One of the things that I did want to point
Speaker 2: out as well, I don't know, and I tweeted out
Speaker 2: about this, and apparently it was trending in the Dallas
Speaker 2: Sport Worth area.
Speaker 1: I saw that.
Speaker 2: But the Coach's Film Room on ESPN News, as you know,
Speaker 2: they do these alternate broadcasts on the ESPN Family Networks
Speaker 2: during these championship games, and on ESPN News, they had
Speaker 2: the coach's film room. Yeah, they had a bunch of
Speaker 2: coaches in there, and Gary Patterson was one of them.
Speaker 2: Who of course played Oklahoma twice this year and played
Speaker 2: Kirby Smart last year in the Liberty Bowl. And they
Speaker 2: asked him, what would you do if you were Kirby
Speaker 2: Smart here because Oklahoma they're running their throwing all over you.
Speaker 2: And he said, well, I'd make sure I took something
Speaker 2: away in the second half. And by that he said,
Speaker 2: I either over commit to the run or you over
Speaker 2: commit to the pass, but you take something away from
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and see if you could take them out of rhythm. Yes,
Speaker 2: and just like everything else that Gary Patterson said on
Speaker 2: the broadcast, it was incredible, But just like that, it happened.
Speaker 2: Georgia put more guys in the box, they played more
Speaker 2: man and Oklahoma's second half offense wasn't nearly as successful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they went they were going horizontal a little bit
Speaker 1: too much. There were a couple of big drops, there
Speaker 1: were a couple of overthrows. It just the rhythm completely
Speaker 1: fell off. When it seemed like because Rodney anders And
Speaker 1: was running well, that they could have sort of added
Speaker 1: wrinkles and not necessarily relied on too much in the
Speaker 1: way of stretching a very fast and angry Georgia defense
Speaker 1: horizontally and it ended up costing them two or three
Speaker 1: drives and ultimately was the difference I think for Oklahoma
Speaker 1: and Georgia, as just great teams do took advantage.
Speaker 2: And then of course he had the fireworks in the
Speaker 2: second half. Yes, forty six yard fumble return, Oklahoma takes
Speaker 2: the lead, A touchdown run ties the game. What fifty
Speaker 2: five seconds left for Georgia, dueling field goals in overtime,
Speaker 2: A blocked field goal for Georgia in dot followed by
Speaker 2: a quick twenty seven yard scamper by Sony Michelle to
Speaker 2: win the game. They going to win this game. I
Speaker 2: guess we're calling a shootout. Oh yeah, fifty four to
Speaker 2: forty eight, an instant classic, just as we predicted here
Speaker 2: on the solid verbal.
Speaker 1: And the least likely going into the game that we
Speaker 1: would anticipate Georgia.
Speaker 2: Winning, right absolutely, going into the game.
Speaker 1: It was sort of an idea of, well, Georgia has
Speaker 1: the more talented defense they have, you know, played a
Speaker 1: more difficult schedule recently in having to play against Auburn
Speaker 1: and Auburn and it just prepared to impose their will.
Speaker 1: I think a little bit more because of how stolid
Speaker 1: they are on both sides of the ball, and for
Speaker 1: them to come out and not just you know, Georgia
Speaker 1: could have smothered them twenty four to ten and everybody
Speaker 1: would have said, yeah, that's about right. They won the
Speaker 1: SEC that way, they're winning this way against a really
Speaker 1: good offense that way. But to win fifty four forty eight,
Speaker 1: I think shows a versatility that we hadn't fully seen
Speaker 1: from the Bulldogs, which sets them up very nicely for
Speaker 1: their opponent.
Speaker 2: Perhaps, speaking of their opponent, let's go on over to
Speaker 2: the Sugar Bowl.
Speaker 1: The later game.
Speaker 2: Alabama twenty four, Clemson six. Daniel Yes, I'm preparing to me. Yeah,
Speaker 2: somewhere in the Webster's New World Dictionary, Yeah, under the
Speaker 2: term crock potting, the slaying term crock potting. They'll just
Speaker 2: have a video, a link to a YouTube video of
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a full It was like a defensive
Speaker 1: crock potting more than anything, because it wasn't just slow touchdown,
Speaker 1: hang let a team hang around another slow touchdown. Alabama
Speaker 1: had what one actual in earnest touchdown drive that ended
Speaker 1: with a Calvin Ridley catch, you know, after Jalen Hurts
Speaker 1: extended the play. But the dern pain after he picked
Speaker 1: the ball off that was a short field and then
Speaker 1: Mack Wilson had a pick six. And by the way,
Speaker 1: somebody tweeted me the term for when a defensive lineman
Speaker 1: runs it in in an interception as a thick six,
Speaker 1: and one makes me uncomfortable saying it out loud. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be real honest with everybody right now. Two. That's brilliant.
Speaker 1: And I don't know if he came up with that.
Speaker 1: I don't know whoever came up with it is a
Speaker 1: very smart and funny person.
Speaker 2: But that's good.
Speaker 1: Yes, Alabama's defense did more in this game to just
Speaker 1: stomp out anything that Clemson tried than I think even
Speaker 1: we expected. And that's you know, everybody has high expectations
Speaker 1: for Alabama's defense, but this is a Clemson offense that
Speaker 1: has moved the ball consistently all season long, not the
Speaker 1: most explosive, but efficiently. You know, they've run really well
Speaker 1: with a couple of top running backs. Kelly Bryant has
Speaker 1: looked very good at times, and it just looked like
Speaker 1: they were throwing into a void. It really did.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Yeah, and we talk about it all
Speaker 2: the time with Alabama. If Bama and their defense can
Speaker 2: play too high safeties and still shut down your running games,
Speaker 2: still get pressure on your quarterback. It's basically over right.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to delve too deeply into what that
Speaker 2: means schematically, but let's just say in layman terms, it
Speaker 2: means that Bama can play a defense where it's not
Speaker 2: taking many chances and still able to shut down an opponent.
Speaker 2: And that's essentially what happen against Clemson. It's been a
Speaker 2: constant for Nick Saban and Alabama over the years that
Speaker 2: he's been with them at the Helm. And look at
Speaker 2: the numbers, that's essentially what happened. Oh yeah, one hundred
Speaker 2: and eighty eight total yards for Clemson's offense. A pretty
Speaker 2: good offense, I'll add, Yeah, Kelly Bryant three point four
Speaker 2: yards per attempt through two picks. God, couldn't get anything
Speaker 2: going on the ground and nineteen carries for I think
Speaker 2: nineteen yards.
Speaker 1: That's with a twenty yard run. Tie. Yeah, It's it
Speaker 1: was rough. It was rough to watch Clemson. It was
Speaker 1: it was like Clemson was down an age level, watching
Speaker 1: like a youth sports, like should they be on the
Speaker 1: same should they? Is this right? Are we on the
Speaker 1: right field and Alabama. And it wasn't even an attacking
Speaker 1: Alabama defense. They weren't sending a ton of pressure. As
Speaker 1: you mentioned, they have two high safeties. It was just
Speaker 1: reading and reacting, just saying we know exactly the spot
Speaker 1: you were trying to throw to or run to. They
Speaker 1: look so prepared. They won what seemed like everyone on
Speaker 1: one matchup on defense. And listen, Jalen Hurts didn't have
Speaker 1: a good game. He was accurate enough, but he didn't
Speaker 1: throw the ball downfield with any sort of consistency. This
Speaker 1: was not like a complete performance from Alabama. Again, one
Speaker 1: true offensive touchdown drive. It was not you know, it
Speaker 1: was not a display of offense here for the Tide.
Speaker 1: But man, that defense is now. It is the best
Speaker 1: thing in the National Championship game. I don't know that
Speaker 1: I'm excited about this National Championship game, but it is
Speaker 1: very clear that these are the two best and most
Speaker 1: deserving teams. And I'll have a UCF conversation and we
Speaker 1: can have that in a few minutes. Just in seeing
Speaker 1: the number of ways that Georgia was able to take
Speaker 1: it to eventually take it to Oklahoma, and what Alabama's
Speaker 1: defense was able to do to this Clemson team and
Speaker 1: whether a very good Clemson defense themselves. These are the
Speaker 1: best two teams.
Speaker 2: At one point early in the game too, Clemson's average
Speaker 2: starting field position was something like its own seventeen yard line. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and Bama's was the forty one yard line. I didn't
Speaker 2: see the final number. I'm sure it changed, but certainly
Speaker 2: not enough to tilt things in Clemson's favor. It felt
Speaker 2: like they had their backs to the wall the entire game.
Speaker 2: That's not really a good spot to be in. And
Speaker 2: ultimately Bama does Bama does. They changed the game with
Speaker 2: some big defensive plays. They get some turnovers, that's just
Speaker 2: what they do.
Speaker 1: They didn't have to show a lot because they were
Speaker 1: so prepared.
Speaker 2: Twenty four to six. Oh, your final score in the
Speaker 2: Sugar Bowl, which means that we've got Alabama Georgia an
Speaker 2: All SEC contest On Monday, January eighth, in the College
Speaker 2: Football Playoff National Championship Game. Bama has been installed as
Speaker 2: a four and a half point favorite. You're over under
Speaker 2: is at forty five and a half, so sort of
Speaker 2: like an NFL game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's also celebrate the fact that Deron Payne
Speaker 1: was in this game and oh ridiculous force. Just I
Speaker 1: don't know how well as somebody on the Pisman board.
Speaker 1: I don't know how we treat a postseason extremely great
Speaker 1: Pisman moment when it's between seasons. To have a to
Speaker 1: the combination of a pick and then a catch and
Speaker 1: sort of tiptoe in the front corner of the end zone.
Speaker 1: What a wonderful, wonderful part of an otherwise not great
Speaker 1: offensive game. Indeed, are you excited for next Monday's game?
Speaker 1: Like in terms of pure and I'm not even talking
Speaker 1: about narrative wise necessarily with oh, Jake fromm is a
Speaker 1: true freshman, Oh can Jalen Hurts sort of avenge his
Speaker 1: performance a very good performance mind you last year and
Speaker 1: a loss with a new offensive coordinator, with Georgia hiring
Speaker 1: Derby Smart and Alabama and just is there from a
Speaker 1: pure football perspective. But we're going to preview this game
Speaker 1: later in the week, both ourselves and with some pals.
Speaker 1: Are you like, are you excited? And I don't want
Speaker 1: to be leading with that question, because it's totally okay
Speaker 1: to be excited. I should add.
Speaker 2: I'll say this, I think the storylines surrounding the game
Speaker 2: are more amusing more interesting than the actual football game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I think out on the field, unless you're really into
Speaker 2: a defensive slugfest smash mouth football. Honestly, if you're not
Speaker 2: watching the coaches film room next Monday night, you're probably
Speaker 2: missing out because I think you'll get more action watching
Speaker 2: that feed than you would by watching Fowler in Herbstreet.
Speaker 1: You know, there's a certain amount of excitement that's lost
Speaker 1: in watching the coaches feed, and there's a certain amount
Speaker 1: of knowledge that's gained watching it, and just a perspective,
Speaker 1: a viewpoint that you wouldn't have otherwise hearing from Garry
Speaker 1: Patterson or Dino Babers or Larry fedor or whatever. But
Speaker 1: I think I will still opt for the energy of
Speaker 1: the actual broadcasts, just because I anticipated being pretty close,
Speaker 1: and honestly, the football not generating a ton, especially the
Speaker 1: offense not generating a ton of energy. I don't know
Speaker 1: that Jake from is somebody that me in the same
Speaker 1: way that Shaun Watson or Chad Kelly or Johnny Manziel,
Speaker 1: guys who have had success against Alabama's defense in recent year.
Speaker 1: You know, and listen, we've probably been wrong about Jake
Speaker 1: From a Baker's dozen. You know so many times this
Speaker 1: year that were like, well, he's a true he's a
Speaker 1: true freshman, but he's kind of not at this point.
Speaker 1: He's played whatever it is, twelve thirteen games started, twelve
Speaker 1: or thirteen games since that Notre Dame game. And will
Speaker 1: he have the stones to sort of throw down the
Speaker 1: middle on third and fifteen against this Alabama defense? I
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah. I'm curious to see what his game
Speaker 1: is like because Alabama is clearly going to force Jake
Speaker 1: From at times to beat them. But I really do
Speaker 1: lean on quarterback play as the biggest thing to get
Speaker 1: me excited about a matchup in Jalen Hurts and Jake
Speaker 1: From just compared to where we've been these past few years,
Speaker 1: it's I'm going to need to be talked into it
Speaker 1: a little bit, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I mean, ultimately we'll talk ourselves into it.
Speaker 2: It's college football. Oh yeah, I'm excited from the standpoint
Speaker 2: that Georgia hasn't been in this game in a long time.
Speaker 1: Sure, absolutely, And it's a sort of de facto home game, de.
Speaker 2: Facto home game. I'm excited for Georgia. I'm excited for
Speaker 2: their fan base, and I think if you're Georgia, the
Speaker 2: team that you want to play is Alabama, not because
Speaker 2: they're the easier of the two opponents you could have played,
Speaker 2: but just because if you win, you could say, Wow,
Speaker 2: we beat Alabama. Yeah, what a charm season we had.
Speaker 2: So I will talk myself into it as well. I'll
Speaker 2: tell you this, I'm more excited about this game between
Speaker 2: two SEC teams than I was Alabama LSU Part two.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. That was nine to six overtime
Speaker 1: and this was This is not a rerun. You know,
Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia didn't happen during the regular season. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about that in general? Not to get to
Speaker 1: like issue big picture, but we have a lot of
Speaker 1: bowl games to get through. But the fact that we
Speaker 1: have two SEC teams, I mean, we knew it was
Speaker 1: a possibility with two teams in the play off. Now
Speaker 1: that we are going into this game where we have
Speaker 1: this hyper regional matchup of the clear two best teams, Yeah,
Speaker 1: is this capital G good for college football? For TV?
Speaker 1: For your brain?
Speaker 2: I think is this good is the wrong question and
Speaker 2: I hate to reframe it on you, but this is
Speaker 2: the way a playoff works. The best team wins and
Speaker 2: You're not wrong. You know, unlike the old BCS system
Speaker 2: or the old old Traditional Bowl system where people voted
Speaker 2: their favorites into a particular game, this is what happens.
Speaker 2: The best team wins. You don't have control over which
Speaker 2: region wins out. And in this case, the SEC has
Speaker 2: two teams in it. They made it through, so you know,
Speaker 2: I don't care if it's good. Quite honestly, the best
Speaker 2: two teams won. I think it'll be a hell of
Speaker 2: a fight on Monday night, a defensive oriented game, and
Speaker 2: you know, we'll see who comes out to victor.
Speaker 1: I think I mostly agree with you at a certain
Speaker 1: point when people talk about needing to win their conference
Speaker 1: or being their conference championship. It's a little funny to
Speaker 1: me that Georgia had to play next game and Alabama didn't,
Speaker 1: you know, But that's the sport that we talk about,
Speaker 1: this ridiculous, ridiculous pastime. But there is there's a slight
Speaker 1: disappointment to me, not that these are the two teams
Speaker 1: in it because I want the best two teams, just
Speaker 1: that it's not more representative that the national part of
Speaker 1: national championship. Yeah, Like it's disappointing to me that USC
Speaker 1: or some or Washington or Oklahoma or Ohio State. Wasn't
Speaker 1: a little bit more, wasn't a little better, wasn't a
Speaker 1: little bit more consistent, didn't get better quarterback played through
Speaker 1: the course of the season. Because I really do think
Speaker 1: there's something special about like, you know, Midwest, South, Southwest, west, Southeast.
Speaker 1: You know there is you know, if we had that
Speaker 1: sort of matchup, there is something intrinsically, to my mind,
Speaker 1: more attractive about it. But these are the best two teams.
Speaker 1: I can't actually complain. This is just sort of like
Speaker 1: in a perfect world type company.
Speaker 2: We've had two teams play for a national championship from
Speaker 2: the same basketball conference before. Yeah, and it's not always
Speaker 2: the most exciting matchup, Dan, But that's just sort of
Speaker 2: the way the cookie crumbles. Let's get to the other
Speaker 2: New Year's six games. As he said, we're going to
Speaker 2: preview the championship on Friday when our next podcast drops's
Speaker 2: talk about the Cotton Bowl Classic, shall we? Oh I'd
Speaker 2: love to Ohio State twenty four USC seven, Dan, mm hmm.
Speaker 2: I would say that it was clear that Ohio State
Speaker 2: was a better team. Here, is that fair? I would say, so? Yeah,
Speaker 2: four turnovers for USC, three of which led to twenty one.
Speaker 2: I think of Ohio State's twenty four points a good
Speaker 2: game for J T. Barrett. He broke some records from
Speaker 2: Drew Brees. Sam Darnold, for his part, put up good
Speaker 2: numbers in the game, and I thought he showed a
Speaker 2: lot about what he's all about, the good and the bad.
Speaker 2: Really Yeah, high character kid, great teammate, great talent, but
Speaker 2: has to develop a little bit with those second and
Speaker 2: third reads. He's just not there yet. It probably would
Speaker 2: benefit him greatly to stay in school another year. But
Speaker 2: what was your takeaway from this game?
Speaker 1: USC can out talent pretty much everybody on their schedule.
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to out talent Ohio State, and the
Speaker 1: offensive line was completely overwhelmed. Sam Darnold was able to
Speaker 1: make plays all season long, you know, escaping the grasp
Speaker 1: of defensive linemen. It's a different story with Sam Hubbard
Speaker 1: and Taekwon Lewis and you know Nick bos all these
Speaker 1: types of talents where you actually have to be consistently
Speaker 1: and fundamentally sound to beat a front that good. And
Speaker 1: USC's offensive line was mostly not up to the challenge.
Speaker 1: And I was so happy that I basically I was
Speaker 1: flying during the big chunk of this game from Chicago
Speaker 1: back to New York. I was thrilled that I only
Speaker 1: had to watch the first half. I was thrilled because
Speaker 1: it seemed like, and I don't know if you're a
Speaker 1: poker player, I'm definitely not, but I know there is
Speaker 1: a move where if you're just if you just keep
Speaker 1: playing and nobody's winning and nobody's winning, that at a
Speaker 1: certain point you like split a pot, you just like
Speaker 1: you just call it. That's what it seemed like the
Speaker 1: offenses did in the second half. We're just like, you
Speaker 1: know what, why don't we just why don't we just
Speaker 1: agreed to disagree about offense and move forward. It's twenty
Speaker 1: four to seven. Let's go our own separate ways. And
Speaker 1: just a fantastic defensive year outside of that Iowa game
Speaker 1: for and maybe the Oklahoma game for Ohio State. All
Speaker 1: the talent in the world up front, and they showed
Speaker 1: it against USC. And I imagine if sam Donold comes back,
Speaker 1: there will be, you know, all aboard. The hype train
Speaker 1: will continue for USC right up until they have to
Speaker 1: play a team, you know that can expose a lot
Speaker 1: of their weakness.
Speaker 2: A very good season for Ohio State. Phil just shot
Speaker 2: the playoff, but I think they went out very strongly here,
Speaker 2: especially for JT. Barrett, who had an illustrious career at
Speaker 2: Ohio State. So they win going away by a twenty
Speaker 2: four to seven final in the PlayStation Feel Festiball another
Speaker 2: triumph for the Big Ten. It was a big Bowl
Speaker 2: season for the Big Ten. They went seven to one.
Speaker 2: Michigan was the only loss. Penn State beats Washington in
Speaker 2: a really fun game. I thought, thirty five to twenty eight.
Speaker 2: Trace mcsorely, I thought was the big story.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Everyone was talking about Reequon and rightfully so. He had
Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five yards of two touchdowns and
Speaker 2: looked every bit as good as advertised if you hadn't
Speaker 2: seen him previously. Trace mcsorely, in the words of tight
Speaker 2: end Hans Gaseki, was quote literally perfect on third downs
Speaker 2: twelve for twelve, passing one ninety three through the air
Speaker 2: and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: He was unconscious. It was I mean, if we'll stay
Speaker 1: with the uh and it's not fair to stay with
Speaker 1: the casino theme with poker, but you know, he's at
Speaker 1: a table and everything is just going his way. He
Speaker 1: keeps rolling sevens like, and it's not. It wasn't a
Speaker 1: luck thing. Can you roll sevens in poker?
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: No, not in poker, in a casino. Okay, there was
Speaker 1: just Trace McSorley on third down, just honed in and well,
Speaker 1: I don't know what the final Penn state looks like.
Speaker 1: It says thirteen of seventeen on third down. That's that's
Speaker 1: absurd in any game, in any situation, against any team.
Speaker 1: To do it against a very good Washington defense, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, I think you tweeted out after Saquan's
Speaker 1: long run was like vaunted Washington defense HU something along
Speaker 1: those lines. So it's twenty eight seven at that then.
Speaker 2: They forced like three turnovers after that.
Speaker 1: From that point on, I think it was twenty one
Speaker 1: seven one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't think I wasn't biting my lip a little bit.
Speaker 1: Washing that game. Yeah, it was. The timing was I
Speaker 1: was ready if Washington had tied it and sent it,
Speaker 1: because they had they were there close. Dante Petis threw
Speaker 1: an interception lateral something on that on that final play,
Speaker 1: it would have been twenty eight seven, and then twenty
Speaker 1: eight seven it would have been wonderful your tweet interrupting
Speaker 1: story if.
Speaker 2: You always take a chance with stuff like that.
Speaker 1: True, Yeah, but no, and especially no Joe moorehead. And
Speaker 1: I Watchington was down offensive coaches as well, but no
Speaker 1: Joe moorehead for Trace McSorley to look so confident early on,
Speaker 1: that early script for Penn State was fantastic Dayshawn Hamilton
Speaker 1: was all over the place, was you know, sort of
Speaker 1: unguardable for chunks of this game. I was super impressed
Speaker 1: with the way Penn State finished out this season. I
Speaker 1: know this might be a what could have been type
Speaker 1: scenario for Penn State fans, but not insignificant. To win
Speaker 1: eleven games and finish as a top ten team.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was a real It was a mostly great year
Speaker 1: for the Nitinny Lions.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, they lose Saquon and they lose
Speaker 2: some key members of their defense. But I think by
Speaker 2: and large, Penn State should again be in pretty good
Speaker 2: position next year because Trace is coming back, they get
Speaker 2: a lot of their offensive line back. I think the
Speaker 2: bones are in place to continue on what they've done
Speaker 2: the last two seasons. And Ricky Ronnie their new offensive
Speaker 2: coordinator with the exception of a lot of shuffle passes
Speaker 2: which I didn't fully understand. That was strange, That was strange,
Speaker 2: didn't fully get that. But with the exception that I
Speaker 2: thought he showed a nice proclivity to go for the throat,
Speaker 2: to carry over a lot of the same concepts that
Speaker 2: we saw under Joe moorehead. So I'm very encouraged about
Speaker 2: where this team goes now moving form.
Speaker 1: And he's not just interim. He was promoted, promoted from within, correct,
Speaker 1: promoted from within. Next year schedule looks pretty fantastic. It's
Speaker 1: not bad. Most of the tough games are at home. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the tough games are at home. It's app State at
Speaker 1: pitt Kent State. It's not good at Illinois. I mean,
Speaker 1: here are the big ten road games at Illinois, at Indiana,
Speaker 1: at Michigan, at Rutgers. Yeah, all things considered, you'd take
Speaker 1: that if it's workable. For sure.
Speaker 2: Penn State wins thirty five to twenty eight over Washington
Speaker 2: and the Fiesta Bowl Capitol One, Orange Bowl Dan Wisconsin
Speaker 2: thirty four, Miami twenty seven. I think I've made it
Speaker 2: pretty well known that I am not very horny for
Speaker 2: Alex Fornybrook. Wow.
Speaker 1: I've got some surprising and shocking news for your loins. Tie.
Speaker 2: He was.
Speaker 1: He was real good.
Speaker 2: Four touchdown passes for Alex Hornybrook two hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: eight yards in a big game, sort of a road
Speaker 2: game all things consider given the fact that it was
Speaker 2: played on Miami's home field. Yeah, a great effort from him.
Speaker 2: He wasn't always as responsible with the ball this season.
Speaker 1: But no, especially against a defense as fast and turnover
Speaker 1: happy as Miami's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, what can you say? He had
Speaker 2: a great performance in this game. He propels Wisconsin to victory. Here,
Speaker 2: another triumph for the Big Ten. Wisconsin held the ball
Speaker 2: for almost forty minutes. They made Malik Rosier force balls
Speaker 2: into coverage, which had predictable results, three interceptions for him,
Speaker 2: and you know, Wisconsin again relies on its defense to
Speaker 2: help spin things in their favor, and then they get
Speaker 2: a really good game out of Hornybrook.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I imagine Malik Rogier looking into the Wisconsin secondary
Speaker 1: and just pass defense in general, probably saw fifteen guys
Speaker 1: back there. Yeah like that. There were just so many
Speaker 1: was Conston Jerseys swarming to the ball in every lane
Speaker 1: and again, a sort of tribute to the job that
Speaker 1: and it's not just Jim Leonard, but Jim Leonard this
Speaker 1: season and the job you know, Justin Wilcox did before
Speaker 1: him and Dave Randon did before that. The continuity of
Speaker 1: just very good defenses in Madison has been incredibly impressive.
Speaker 1: And Jonathan Taylor tailback going for what dan near two
Speaker 1: thousand yards? This is a true freshman.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a ridiculous year from Wisconsin. And obviously Miami
Speaker 1: playing through a number of key injuries on offense, but
Speaker 1: this was and it was a game. This was what
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty four in the fourth quarter, It
Speaker 1: was still a game with every close Miami struggled with
Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, and yet good for Wisconsin for holding on.
Speaker 1: They finished the season what thirteen and one? Just I
Speaker 1: mean the schedule is, yes, the schedule, but still stupid ridiculous.
Speaker 2: A nice win for them to close out the year.
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the Peach Bowl. Yeah, UCF
Speaker 2: wins over Auburn thirty four to twenty seven. Den this
Speaker 2: game at all, I did. What do you think of
Speaker 2: this game?
Speaker 1: I thought, well, aside from the obvious it being like
Speaker 1: an unreal season for UCF and to go out with
Speaker 1: a win over the team that beat both teams in
Speaker 1: the National Championship. It was impressive to see the Knights
Speaker 1: stand up on really defense more than anything. It was
Speaker 1: nothing too new that UCF was going to put yardage
Speaker 1: on good teams, even though Auburn's defense is on a
Speaker 1: talent level above what UCF is used to. But Mackenzie
Speaker 1: Milton has been very good all year. The fact that
Speaker 1: he led the way.
Speaker 2: He is fun as hell to watch Dan, he is
Speaker 2: so fun. He is so fun.
Speaker 1: But yeah, defensively to force the turnovers they did, to
Speaker 1: overwhelm they themselves overwhelm the Auburn offensive line, which we
Speaker 1: thought after the Clemson game had really gotten itself together,
Speaker 1: but they seemed to struggle for long stretches maybe outside
Speaker 1: of the third quarter for Auburn. Was very cool to
Speaker 1: see Mackenzie Milton spread the ball around nicely, and you know,
Speaker 1: ultimately the turnovers forced to Auburn's hand and Auburn was
Speaker 1: in the game late, but UCF did a great job
Speaker 1: holding on and closing the game out.
Speaker 2: Would u CF have beaten any of the four playoff teams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, I think UCF. I don't know.
Speaker 1: If it's seven out of ten times. But I think
Speaker 1: if things break correctly and with the time to prepare,
Speaker 1: that UCF would have to have three weeks with you know,
Speaker 1: the Scott Frost coaching staff. I think it's for Auburn
Speaker 1: and their defense to struggle at times with Mackenzie Milton.
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like Trey Kwon Smith was getting behind
Speaker 1: the secondary consistent layer, Tredrick Snelson was working them over.
Speaker 1: It was just smart play calling, timely defense, and that's
Speaker 1: good enough, don't I don't think they probably beat Alabama,
Speaker 1: But could they run with Oklahoma? Could they run with
Speaker 1: with Georgia a little bit? Could they run with Clemson
Speaker 1: and take advantage of some bad Kelly Brian throws? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so absolutely.
Speaker 2: I think they could have given all four of those
Speaker 2: teams at a minimum two and a half tough quarters.
Speaker 2: I don't know about, you know, the final twenty two
Speaker 2: and a half minutes, but I'm pretty confident that two
Speaker 2: and a half quarters is something that they could muster up.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you're able to force turnovers and
Speaker 1: flip fields and make smart decisions on third down, you
Speaker 1: can hang with anybody for a good amount of time.
Speaker 1: It's tough though when this is you know, what's what
Speaker 1: is it? The Peach Bowl? No, and a disappointing spot
Speaker 1: for Auburn. You know, they win the SEC and they're
Speaker 1: into the playoff. So I am not going to place
Speaker 1: this on Auburn motivation because Auburn looked plenty motivated. But
Speaker 1: the fact is the stakes are a little bit different. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Auburn in a playoff, Georgia in a playoff, you know,
Speaker 1: climbs it in a playoff. It's just there's a different
Speaker 1: feel and a different level of focus I think from
Speaker 1: everybody involved, and that would include UCF. So really cool
Speaker 1: to see UCF win. And the real shame of everything
Speaker 1: was that UCF was never even in the conversation, like
Speaker 1: the committee did you know they made a conscious effort
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you're like sixteen, Oh yeah you're eleven.
Speaker 1: Oh you're like thirteen, like fifteen, you're not seven, because
Speaker 1: they're just protecting themselves in case there is crazy chaos,
Speaker 1: protecting themselves from having UCF anywhere near a playoff conversation.
Speaker 1: And that's the shame of it, because UCF should be
Speaker 1: in that conversation. I know, they didn't play a ton
Speaker 1: of Power five teams, but to have the opportunity to
Speaker 1: prove themselves feels especially given the results from yesterday and
Speaker 1: even before yesterday, they were on a level playing field.
Speaker 1: Players are players, and they had them.
Speaker 2: Thirty four to twenty seven. Again, was your final big
Speaker 2: win for UCF. Beware the de facto national championship instead
Speaker 2: it for ten years in this show. But the game
Speaker 2: was a big deal for UCF and they got the
Speaker 2: job done.
Speaker 1: So and how many of these schools, by the way, Ty,
Speaker 1: have claimed national championships in the exact way that UCF
Speaker 1: could today. There are a lot of them. There are
Speaker 1: a lot of them, So good for you. S. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's all.
Speaker 2: The other game that we'll bring up here. It's not
Speaker 2: technically in New Year's six, but they did play it
Speaker 2: on New Year's Day the Citrus Bowl. We had Notre
Speaker 2: Dame twenty one LSU seventeen.
Speaker 1: Dan, I have a confession, Tie, Yeah, I barely watched
Speaker 1: this game. No, I barely. I was with Michigan people,
Speaker 1: and I listen, the Michigan game could have been worse.
Speaker 1: The Michigan game was horrific to watch, Tie, I just
Speaker 1: had to pick my poison. And I went with the
Speaker 1: one that featured Ryan Nanny and a giant fried onion covers.
Speaker 2: Right. No, of course we'll talk about that one next here. Yes,
Speaker 2: And in fairness, I think that game, at least the
Speaker 2: first half of the Citrus Bowl was worse than anything
Speaker 2: we saw in the outback.
Speaker 1: Bawl oh good, Okay, cool.
Speaker 2: The first half was just dreadful, but an interesting situation
Speaker 2: for Notre Dame to win this football game. They had
Speaker 2: a lot of backups in they were playing Ian Brooke
Speaker 2: mostly at quarterback. He gets a big throw, a great
Speaker 2: catch from Miles Boykin, laid in the game, catches it
Speaker 2: one hand over his back shoulder, dodges two tacklers, scampers
Speaker 2: in for a touchdown, and Notre Dame ends up winning
Speaker 2: this one by four, A nice little boost to kind
Speaker 2: of go into their own offseason where they've clearly got
Speaker 2: a lot of questions to answer, not the least of
Speaker 2: which is who's playing quarterback next year. Now, if you
Speaker 2: look at the box score, you're gonna see a lot
Speaker 2: of Ian Book. I don't know if you should read
Speaker 2: too deeply into what that means for next year. Brandon
Speaker 2: Wimbush has been nicked up down the stretch here a
Speaker 2: little bit. What I will say though, is if you
Speaker 2: are Brandon Wimbush, to go into that bowl game and
Speaker 2: perform the way you did, it was definitely not the
Speaker 2: kind of curtain call you want to close out your year.
Speaker 2: Like if you were looking to separate yourself from Ian
Speaker 2: Book from Phil Jerkovic, who's coming in, this was not
Speaker 2: the way to go about doing that. So I would
Speaker 2: expect there to be an open competition for quarterback. I
Speaker 2: am encouraged by how Notre Dame looked on defense. I
Speaker 2: think they're young enough and depending on who stays and
Speaker 2: who goes, we could be talking about one of the
Speaker 2: better front sevens in college football next year. So they've
Speaker 2: made great strides on that side of the football as well. Offense,
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to wait and see. I think, just
Speaker 2: as a whole, a really good, surprising way, quite frankly,
Speaker 2: to close out their season, a big win against LSU.
Speaker 1: Let me write this down real quick. Off season Notre Dame.
Speaker 2: Quarterback, Yeah, no, it's been the thing man.
Speaker 1: Whoo And I guess, yeah, it'll depend on who stays
Speaker 1: and who goes. I guess does Jerry Tillery need to
Speaker 1: take it one step at a time. Is that is
Speaker 1: that a goof? Does that work?
Speaker 2: No? Sure?
Speaker 1: Is that still fresh in people's minds?
Speaker 2: You can do that?
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, good for Notre Dame for holding on. It
Speaker 1: was a very standard loss for LSU where they seem
Speaker 1: to put themselves in position to score a bunch and
Speaker 1: couldn't finish drives. And the standard issue disappointment for LSU
Speaker 1: is nothing any football fan wants to see. It's not
Speaker 1: fun to watch. And Darius Geist was fine, but man,
Speaker 1: just not a fun game. Not a fun game. I
Speaker 1: watched some of the highlights of this, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you right now, ty, pretty glad I didn't watch.
Speaker 2: All right, We've got fifteen other Bowl games that we
Speaker 2: need to talk about, so many and we're already forty
Speaker 2: five minutes deep. So if it's okay with you, my
Speaker 2: voice is you can hear it. It's dying here, Dan
Speaker 2: True's dying. Members of my sweet sweet radio voice here,
Speaker 2: let's try and move through these as quickly as we can.
Speaker 2: If that's all I've send to you, Yes, let's tell
Speaker 2: me about the Outback Bowl. South Carolina twenty six, Michigan nineteen.
Speaker 1: Speaking of standard issue offensive disappointment. Michigan struggled, kept giving
Speaker 1: the ball to South Carolina. South Carolina barely holds on
Speaker 1: to win with five turnovers gifted to them, and Michigan
Speaker 1: has a lot of soul searching and mirror looking offensively
Speaker 1: this offseason, especially with Shaye Patterson coming in. But hey,
Speaker 1: good for South Carolina. Did nothing in the first half,
Speaker 1: good in the second half and Ryan Nanny ward a
Speaker 1: fried onion costume.
Speaker 2: Awesome side that was all just Also, I saw that
Speaker 2: the game was a little chippier than I'd expect.
Speaker 1: It was. Well, they were like fighting in a bowling
Speaker 1: alley leading up to the game, So hi, there's a
Speaker 1: there's some sparks flying time.
Speaker 2: Quinn nordin the kicker went Crotch Graben hitting a field
Speaker 2: goal at the end of the first half.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you hit three field goals in a
Speaker 1: half and nobody else is doing anything around you offensively.
Speaker 1: You feel empowered? Ty all right.
Speaker 2: Michigan is the only Big Ten team to lose South Carolina.
Speaker 2: A nice win for them. Tax Slayer Bowl Mississippi State
Speaker 2: thirty one, Louisville twenty seven. Uh props to Mississippi State. Here,
Speaker 2: Dan Sure they got the best of Lamar Jackson, didn't they?
Speaker 1: They absolutely did. You know, he is once again trying
Speaker 1: to do everything, which I understand given some of their
Speaker 1: struggles on offense. But to me, the story was much more.
Speaker 1: Keytonpson interim coach for Mississippi State, you know, not starting
Speaker 1: the Joe moorehead era quite yet obviously in game, and
Speaker 1: Keithon Thompson, both through the air and on the ground,
Speaker 1: leads the Dogs to a very impressive win.
Speaker 2: Good for them in the Liberty Bowl Iowa State twenty one,
Speaker 2: Memphis twenty We had one final swan song for a boy,
Speaker 2: the Duke of Hazzard, Allan Lazard a Liberty Bowl record
Speaker 2: ten babs. Yeah, one hundred and forty two yards. He
Speaker 2: was virtually uncoverable, even really on being one leg after
Speaker 2: tweaking an ankle earlier in the game. Iowa State gets
Speaker 2: their first Bowl win since two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, unbelievable season for Iowa State. One of the
Speaker 1: better stories of the season couldn't really run against Memphis,
Speaker 1: but really it was the defense. Joe Lanning another big
Speaker 1: game for the Clones, and Alan Lazard is right there.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Alan Lazard is a candidate. Nikhil Harry
Speaker 1: a candidate for Well, they got one really really good
Speaker 1: receiver and he just keeps getting open. If it's the
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, the Eric Decker Award, whatever it is, Alan
Speaker 1: Lazard is right there.
Speaker 2: The Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl goes to New Mexico
Speaker 2: State twenty six two twenty over. You toss State in overtime.
Speaker 1: Historic bowl win for the Aggies.
Speaker 2: Cool to see the Belk Bowl. Wake Forest fifty five
Speaker 2: Texas A and M two four hundred yards, four touchdowns
Speaker 2: for John Wolford. We had one final ride on the
Speaker 2: Wolford wagon as wake Forest goes out in style and
Speaker 2: nice win. Nice offensive showing here by Wolford to close
Speaker 2: out the season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, same goes for Nick Starkle. And it was what
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk's final game for text A and M. He
Speaker 1: declared for the draft. But yeah, in John Wolford's final
Speaker 1: game for the Deeks, he was once again stupid good
Speaker 1: and just the defense was not there for anybody. But
Speaker 1: Wake held on late against Nick Starkle. I think they
Speaker 1: force a fourth and long and got the stop. Good
Speaker 1: for Wake another what eight win season? Yeah, come on,
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. I'm going to make a random prediction here
Speaker 1: about John Wolford. Okay, John Wolford is the kind of
Speaker 1: guy who four years from now is randomly the backup
Speaker 1: for like the Minnesota Vikings. Okay, and due to injury
Speaker 1: gets a start, two starts, maybe three, sort of like
Speaker 1: the Graham Harreld style exactly. Nate Peterman, Yeah, mm hmm. Fair.
Speaker 2: The Hyundai Sun Bowl goes to NC State by a
Speaker 2: fifty two to thirty one margin over ASU.
Speaker 1: Coach by Todd Graham. Yeah, weird, a little bit strange,
Speaker 1: lame duck situation. Herm Edwards now officially takes over in
Speaker 1: all phases for ASU. Rough game for Manny Wilkins. Ridiculous
Speaker 1: game for Ryan Finlay as he was mostly this year
Speaker 1: a little down back half of the season. But NC
Speaker 1: State a really cool way to end the year that
Speaker 1: they probably thought they should have double digit wins.
Speaker 2: And the Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl goes to
Speaker 2: Western by one twenty three over Kentucky. Yeah, what happened
Speaker 2: in this game?
Speaker 1: Clayton Thorston goes down with a pretty ugly injury. Hope
Speaker 1: he is able to eventually heal looked pretty brutal. And
Speaker 1: then Benny Snell start Kentucky running back sort of waves
Speaker 1: off a ref who's trying to help him up or
Speaker 1: something like that, and the ref is insulted. It's unclear
Speaker 1: like there was not any sort of significant contact. He
Speaker 1: gets thrown out of the game. Very strange. Kentucky comes
Speaker 1: back and gives themselves. They give themselves an opportunity to
Speaker 1: win the game with a two point conversion, but Northwestern
Speaker 1: breaks it up and holds on and helps to keep
Speaker 1: the Big Tens Bowl record up pretty high.
Speaker 2: The Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumming. We had Navy.
Speaker 2: Wow is that right? Whoa?
Speaker 1: That is one hundred percent correct?
Speaker 2: A forty two point win over Virginia That's incredible.
Speaker 1: That is Yeah. I did not see this game coming
Speaker 1: in this fashion. Zachaby had a nice day on the ground,
Speaker 1: and Navy did what Navy did and added a bunch
Speaker 1: of defense to it. So hey, Navy, seven and six,
Speaker 1: Good for you.
Speaker 2: The Camping World Bowl goes to Oklahoma State thirty to
Speaker 2: twenty one over Virginia Tech.
Speaker 1: Not a surprise, no, not a Olahoma State. Yeah, Oklahoma
Speaker 1: State with a huge offensive day for Mason Rudolph and
Speaker 1: a couple of receivers, and Virginia Tech ultimately just couldn't
Speaker 1: make plays at the end of the game. Too many
Speaker 1: stall drives.
Speaker 2: The San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl, another lopsided
Speaker 2: game here. Wow off Michigan State forty two, Wazoo seventeen.
Speaker 2: No Luke Folk in this game for Wazoo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No. Hercules Mo to offer for the first half
Speaker 1: because he was ejected against I want to say it
Speaker 1: was in the Apple Cup, so he had to miss
Speaker 1: the first half of the bowl game. And Brian Lawurk
Speaker 1: huge day for Michigan State. Tyler Helensky not able to
Speaker 1: keep up, and yeah Michigan State. You'll remember when we
Speaker 1: previewed this team and knew nothing about what would have
Speaker 1: this year. You were confident they would improve. They finished
Speaker 1: ten and three. Yeah, wow, damn Michigan State.
Speaker 2: Damn the Alamo Bile TCU thirty nine, Stanford thirty seven.
Speaker 2: Dan looked like this one might get out of hand.
Speaker 2: Stanford had a big lead after a quarter and a half.
Speaker 2: I guess that's when a hero came along Dan with
Speaker 2: the strength to carry on. You might know him as
Speaker 2: Kenny Hill. This was decidedly ken Hill yep in this
Speaker 2: football game. The older, the more mature version of his
Speaker 2: former self. He led the charge all the way back,
Speaker 2: had a ninety three yard touchdown pass to start the
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Wild game in the Alamo Dome. Cole Buns
Speaker 2: for TCU gets a thirty three yarder with three minutes
Speaker 2: left to give TCU a big Bowl win.
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely not a ton of big plays for Stanford.
Speaker 1: Bryce Love had a couple, but was mostly held in
Speaker 1: check by a very good TCU rushdie upfront Jalen Rager.
Speaker 1: Obviously a huge day for the fraud in the air.
Speaker 1: And if you like interceptions, tie, my god, do you
Speaker 1: have to dine out at the Alamo Bowl because there
Speaker 1: were four of them and the field kept flipping and
Speaker 1: flopping and it was pretty entertaining. I enjoyed my time
Speaker 1: with Stanford and TCU.
Speaker 2: The Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl. It's a mouthful.
Speaker 2: M goes to Texas thirty three to sixteen over Misura.
Speaker 1: Chippy game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, chippy game.
Speaker 1: Between Texas and Miszoo, but hey, good for Texas. Didn't
Speaker 1: really do a ton offensively, But this is the twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen Texas team, that's what they don't do, and defensively
Speaker 1: did a really nice job against Drew Locke mostly held
Speaker 1: him in check. Is ish Witter did not much at all,
Speaker 1: surprisingly enough, I mean, I guess not a big surprise.
Speaker 1: Texas defense has been mostly very good this year, So
Speaker 1: strong way for Texas to finish out the year, but
Speaker 1: they should be closer to double digit wins moving forward.
Speaker 2: Malik Jefferson I saw also declared the NFL draft.
Speaker 1: Yeah and unbelieve talent for the Horns.
Speaker 2: Foster Farms Bowl fun game. Actually Perdue thirty eight Arizona
Speaker 2: thirty five.
Speaker 1: A little bit controversy before the half, Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: refs told Rich Rodriguez and the Arizona coaching staff that
Speaker 1: Purdue would be kneeling and so for Arizona not to
Speaker 1: sort of rush the passer or you know, try to
Speaker 1: stop any sort of run, and they end up going
Speaker 1: with an end around before the half that sets up
Speaker 1: a pretty short field goal. Ultimately, Perdue wins by the
Speaker 1: field goal. And listen, Arizona was ahead in the second half,
Speaker 1: they were head in the fourth quarter. They were head
Speaker 1: with three minutes left in this game, so they did
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to win. But if all of that
Speaker 1: is true, it's a bummer for Arizona, who fought really well,
Speaker 1: and I think the story wasn't really produced defenses it
Speaker 1: had been for most of the year. Offensively, they spread
Speaker 1: the ball around nicely. Defensively, Khalil Tate exposed a lot
Speaker 1: of what Purdue was trying to do against him through
Speaker 1: the air. But good for Purdue. Really, this was not
Speaker 1: a Purdue team that I think anybody was expecting much from,
Speaker 1: even with the coaching change, and took I think a
Speaker 1: pretty big step.
Speaker 2: Forward when comeback victories and the Purdue boiler Makers dan
Speaker 2: when they merge as one. You know what we call that?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 2: We call that the singularity.
Speaker 1: Ah, I'll take it. I like that. Good job.
Speaker 2: Elijah Sindelar showing some Cajones. The thirty eight yard touchdown
Speaker 2: pass like a minute and forty four left gave him
Speaker 2: a win. Nice win, nice win. First winning records since
Speaker 2: twenty eleven Boiler up and finally two final games here
Speaker 2: new era Pinch Stripe Bowl goes to Iowa twenty seven
Speaker 2: to twenty over Boston College, and the walk On's Independence
Speaker 2: Bowl goes to Florida State, who ran one up on
Speaker 2: Southern miss forty two to thirteen.
Speaker 1: Indeed, not much as needed about either one of those games.
Speaker 2: Daniel, There you have it for bowl season. Mm hmmm, hmmm. Wow.
Speaker 1: What was your favorite bowl game to watch? If you
Speaker 1: have the scoreboard in front of you, you have a favor?
Speaker 1: Was it text A and m wake Forest fifty five
Speaker 1: fifty two?
Speaker 2: Was it? Well, let's count out. Let's let's assume that
Speaker 2: the best one was the Rose Bowl. I think that's right,
Speaker 2: the Rose Bull is the best one. Beyond that, and
Speaker 2: maybe I'm biased. I thought Penn State Washington was a
Speaker 2: ton of fun.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a game to legitimately be up in the air,
Speaker 1: and there was probably a solid three quarters of a
Speaker 1: second when Dante Pettis got the the lateral on the
Speaker 1: hook and ladder where you oh, you knowing what Chris
Speaker 1: Peterson has where you said in the depths of your gut.
Speaker 1: Oh shit, it had to have been in your in
Speaker 1: your mind somewhere.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was totally there. Yeah, So I thought
Speaker 2: that was a funny game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's uh, that's all sort I'm trying
Speaker 1: to see if any of the non new Year's Day.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Prue Arizona is a good answer.
Speaker 1: That was a really fun game.
Speaker 2: And TCU Stanford was a good game, kind of being
Speaker 2: down to the wire too.
Speaker 1: I think that that's right.
Speaker 2: Good Bowl season as a whole. We will report on
Speaker 2: who ends up winning our bullpool as soon as we know.
Speaker 2: We won't know that until after the game on Monday. Again,
Speaker 2: your National Championship game is going to between Alabama and
Speaker 2: Georgia Monday night, January the eighth. Alabama four and a
Speaker 2: half point favorite over the george Bulldogs. Now we are
Speaker 2: going to be in Atlanta, as we said at the
Speaker 2: top of the show, as we said for many shows.
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Speaker 2: you've got questions, feel free to give us a holler.
Speaker 2: We'd love to talk to you. Yeah, the other thing
Speaker 2: that we should add is that we will be doing
Speaker 2: a live broadcast from college Football Media Day career in
Speaker 2: the day, courtesy of our friends over at Facebook. We
Speaker 2: will be the special guest hosts m H if you
Speaker 2: tune into the college football playoffs, Facebook Sports set coverage
Speaker 2: of Media Day. So we're gonna be talking to Alabama
Speaker 2: coaches and players, gonna be talking to Georgia coaches and players.
Speaker 2: I'm going to get some questions from the community, going
Speaker 2: to have some fun of our own. It'll be lighthearted,
Speaker 2: it'll be fun. We'll try to mix in some informative stuff.
Speaker 2: Basically whatever you're used to here on the verbal we're
Speaker 2: going to try and bring that to live video format
Speaker 2: courtesy of our friends over at Facebook. So I'm excited
Speaker 2: for that as well.
Speaker 1: No, it'll be fun. We're gonna play some games, we'll
Speaker 1: talk about the game. We will I think we're going
Speaker 1: to do some learning about human beings tie totally. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. So, yeah, pay attention to that.
Speaker 1: I honestly, I'm a little bit concerned that you're going
Speaker 1: into this weekend. We have a long preview show. We
Speaker 1: have Facebook Sports at Media Day, and we have to
Speaker 1: get you with a healthy larynx. Oh my god, to
Speaker 1: switch Yards Downtown six to eight pm. Get your tickets
Speaker 1: on Where should people go to get their tickets.
Speaker 2: Saliverble dot com, Facebook dot com.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay. I'm worried about your voice, so just
Speaker 1: treat it like the instrument that it is.
Speaker 2: I will do my best here. It's not as bad
Speaker 2: as it sounds. It may be worse, but I will
Speaker 2: be in good working order by the time Saturday rolls around,
Speaker 2: I promise. Okay, fair enough, Daniel, I think this is
Speaker 2: where I leave you.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's been a pleasure. It's been a treat.
Speaker 2: Feel free to tune back in a little bit later
Speaker 2: on in the week when we drop our official National
Speaker 2: Championship preview pod. In the meantime for that guy over there,
Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, and myself Tie hilde Brand
Speaker 2: here a little worse for the wear, but we'll come
Speaker 2: back strong in a few days. Enjoy the rest of
Speaker 2: your week and stay solved.
Speaker 1: PEACEA