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Speaker 2: Is that whoo whoom? And now Dan and Ty, well,

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Speaker 2: welcome back to the solid of the boys and girls.

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Speaker 2: My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining me as always over

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Speaker 2: there in New York, blustery city, a gentleman by the

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Speaker 2: name of Dan Rubensteinster. Happy New Year, Happy New Year

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Speaker 2: after twenty eighteen. How are you?

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty good. I'm a little tired. But I also

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Speaker 1: have to say Ty as a longtime SEC supporter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, die hard, noted SC supporter.

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Speaker 1: Just live, breathe, nap, dance, SEC Tye. It's me, mister

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Speaker 1: Southeastern Conference. And what a time it is to be

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Speaker 2: Some have said it even means more down there.

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Speaker 1: You don't know, as somebody who's on the outside what

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you to everyone out there for tuning in.

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Speaker 2: Happy New Year, Happy twenty eighteen to you and yours

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Speaker 2: and wherever you may be. We got a bunch of

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Speaker 2: here in Bowl season. A quick update on the bull

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Speaker 1: Did I win?

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Speaker 2: No, I didn't win, You didn't win. But we had

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Speaker 2: that's pretty good, a literal overload of the ESPN circuits.

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Speaker 2: We do have one gentleman who is at the top

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Speaker 2: it's been a I think, a really successful bull season.

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Speaker 2: I've enjoyed watching all these games. The other bit of

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Speaker 2: But we appreciate everyone's support. We're still building that show,

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Speaker 2: double overtime, Dan, what did we say about this game?

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Speaker 1: This is you, ty? I mean I may have agreed

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Speaker 1: The later game.

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Speaker 2: Alabama twenty four, Clemson six. Daniel Yes, I'm preparing to me. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know if he came up with that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Alabama's defense did more in this game to just

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing, Yeah, and we talk about it all

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Speaker 2: And that's essentially what happen against Clemson. It's been a

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Speaker 2: good offense, I'll add, Yeah, Kelly Bryant three point four

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Speaker 1: But man, that defense is now. It is the best

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Speaker 2: At one point early in the game too, Clemson's average

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Speaker 1: They didn't have to show a lot because they were

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's also celebrate the fact that Deron Payne

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Speaker 1: What a wonderful, wonderful part of an otherwise not great

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Speaker 1: You know, there's a certain amount of excitement that's lost

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Speaker 1: He's played whatever it is, twelve thirteen games started, twelve

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Speaker 1: and this was This is not a rerun. You know,

434
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Speaker 1: Alabama Georgia didn't happen during the regular season. How do

435
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Speaker 1: you feel about that in general? Not to get to

436
00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: like issue big picture, but we have a lot of

437
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: bowl games to get through. But the fact that we

438
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Speaker 1: have two SEC teams, I mean, we knew it was

439
00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 1: a possibility with two teams in the play off. Now

440
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 1: that we are going into this game where we have

441
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 1: this hyper regional matchup of the clear two best teams, Yeah,

442
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 1: is this capital G good for college football? For TV?

443
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: For your brain?

444
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: I think is this good is the wrong question and

445
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: I hate to reframe it on you, but this is

446
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,640
Speaker 2: the way a playoff works. The best team wins and

447
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 2: You're not wrong. You know, unlike the old BCS system

448
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 2: or the old old Traditional Bowl system where people voted

449
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: their favorites into a particular game, this is what happens.

450
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:39,400
Speaker 2: The best team wins. You don't have control over which

451
00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: region wins out. And in this case, the SEC has

452
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Speaker 2: two teams in it. They made it through, so you know,

453
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Speaker 2: I don't care if it's good. Quite honestly, the best

454
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 2: two teams won. I think it'll be a hell of

455
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 2: a fight on Monday night, a defensive oriented game, and

456
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Speaker 2: you know, we'll see who comes out to victor.

457
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Speaker 1: I think I mostly agree with you at a certain

458
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Speaker 1: point when people talk about needing to win their conference

459
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Speaker 1: or being their conference championship. It's a little funny to

460
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: me that Georgia had to play next game and Alabama didn't,

461
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, But that's the sport that we talk about,

462
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: this ridiculous, ridiculous pastime. But there is there's a slight

463
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: disappointment to me, not that these are the two teams

464
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Speaker 1: in it because I want the best two teams, just

465
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Speaker 1: that it's not more representative that the national part of

466
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,720
Speaker 1: national championship. Yeah, Like it's disappointing to me that USC

467
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: or some or Washington or Oklahoma or Ohio State. Wasn't

468
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 1: a little bit more, wasn't a little better, wasn't a

469
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,600
Speaker 1: little bit more consistent, didn't get better quarterback played through

470
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Speaker 1: the course of the season. Because I really do think

471
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Speaker 1: there's something special about like, you know, Midwest, South, Southwest, west, Southeast.

472
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Speaker 1: You know there is you know, if we had that

473
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Speaker 1: sort of matchup, there is something intrinsically, to my mind,

474
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Speaker 1: more attractive about it. But these are the best two teams.

475
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Speaker 1: I can't actually complain. This is just sort of like

476
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Speaker 1: in a perfect world type company.

477
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Speaker 2: We've had two teams play for a national championship from

478
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 2: the same basketball conference before. Yeah, and it's not always

479
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 2: the most exciting matchup, Dan, But that's just sort of

480
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 2: the way the cookie crumbles. Let's get to the other

481
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: New Year's six games. As he said, we're going to

482
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Speaker 2: preview the championship on Friday when our next podcast drops's

483
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,440
Speaker 2: talk about the Cotton Bowl Classic, shall we? Oh I'd

484
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Speaker 2: love to Ohio State twenty four USC seven, Dan, mm hmm.

485
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 2: I would say that it was clear that Ohio State

486
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 2: was a better team. Here, is that fair? I would say, so? Yeah,

487
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:42,560
Speaker 2: four turnovers for USC, three of which led to twenty one.

488
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 2: I think of Ohio State's twenty four points a good

489
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Speaker 2: game for J T. Barrett. He broke some records from

490
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Speaker 2: Drew Brees. Sam Darnold, for his part, put up good

491
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Speaker 2: numbers in the game, and I thought he showed a

492
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Speaker 2: lot about what he's all about, the good and the bad.

493
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Speaker 2: Really Yeah, high character kid, great teammate, great talent, but

494
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: has to develop a little bit with those second and

495
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,400
Speaker 2: third reads. He's just not there yet. It probably would

496
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: benefit him greatly to stay in school another year. But

497
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Speaker 2: what was your takeaway from this game?

498
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Speaker 1: USC can out talent pretty much everybody on their schedule.

499
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,359
Speaker 1: It's very difficult to out talent Ohio State, and the

500
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 1: offensive line was completely overwhelmed. Sam Darnold was able to

501
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: make plays all season long, you know, escaping the grasp

502
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: of defensive linemen. It's a different story with Sam Hubbard

503
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: and Taekwon Lewis and you know Nick bos all these

504
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: types of talents where you actually have to be consistently

505
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: and fundamentally sound to beat a front that good. And

506
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,920
Speaker 1: USC's offensive line was mostly not up to the challenge.

507
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Speaker 1: And I was so happy that I basically I was

508
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: flying during the big chunk of this game from Chicago

509
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: back to New York. I was thrilled that I only

510
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: had to watch the first half. I was thrilled because

511
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: it seemed like, and I don't know if you're a

512
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: poker player, I'm definitely not, but I know there is

513
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 1: a move where if you're just if you just keep

514
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: playing and nobody's winning and nobody's winning, that at a

515
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: certain point you like split a pot, you just like

516
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: you just call it. That's what it seemed like the

517
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,679
Speaker 1: offenses did in the second half. We're just like, you

518
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: know what, why don't we just why don't we just

519
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: agreed to disagree about offense and move forward. It's twenty

520
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,640
Speaker 1: four to seven. Let's go our own separate ways. And

521
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: just a fantastic defensive year outside of that Iowa game

522
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,840
Speaker 1: for and maybe the Oklahoma game for Ohio State. All

523
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 1: the talent in the world up front, and they showed

524
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: it against USC. And I imagine if sam Donold comes back,

525
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: there will be, you know, all aboard. The hype train

526
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: will continue for USC right up until they have to

527
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: play a team, you know that can expose a lot

528
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: of their weakness.

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Speaker 2: A very good season for Ohio State. Phil just shot

530
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 2: the playoff, but I think they went out very strongly here,

531
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Speaker 2: especially for JT. Barrett, who had an illustrious career at

532
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Speaker 2: Ohio State. So they win going away by a twenty

533
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Speaker 2: four to seven final in the PlayStation Feel Festiball another

534
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: triumph for the Big Ten. It was a big Bowl

535
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: season for the Big Ten. They went seven to one.

536
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 2: Michigan was the only loss. Penn State beats Washington in

537
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 2: a really fun game. I thought, thirty five to twenty eight.

538
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Speaker 2: Trace mcsorely, I thought was the big story.

539
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

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00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,239
Speaker 2: Everyone was talking about Reequon and rightfully so. He had

541
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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy five yards of two touchdowns and

542
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 2: looked every bit as good as advertised if you hadn't

543
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,880
Speaker 2: seen him previously. Trace mcsorely, in the words of tight

544
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,919
Speaker 2: end Hans Gaseki, was quote literally perfect on third downs

545
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 2: twelve for twelve, passing one ninety three through the air

546
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Speaker 2: and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He was unconscious. It was I mean, if we'll stay

548
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: with the uh and it's not fair to stay with

549
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: the casino theme with poker, but you know, he's at

550
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: a table and everything is just going his way. He

551
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 1: keeps rolling sevens like, and it's not. It wasn't a

552
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: luck thing. Can you roll sevens in poker?

553
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.

554
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 1: No, not in poker, in a casino. Okay, there was

555
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: just Trace McSorley on third down, just honed in and well,

556
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what the final Penn state looks like.

557
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: It says thirteen of seventeen on third down. That's that's

558
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: absurd in any game, in any situation, against any team.

559
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: To do it against a very good Washington defense, which,

560
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: by the way, I think you tweeted out after Saquan's

561
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: long run was like vaunted Washington defense HU something along

562
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: those lines. So it's twenty eight seven at that then.

563
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 2: They forced like three turnovers after that.

564
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Speaker 1: From that point on, I think it was twenty one

565
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Speaker 1: seven one.

566
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Speaker 2: Yeah, don't think I wasn't biting my lip a little bit.

567
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 1: Washing that game. Yeah, it was. The timing was I

568
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: was ready if Washington had tied it and sent it,

569
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 1: because they had they were there close. Dante Petis threw

570
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: an interception lateral something on that on that final play,

571
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: it would have been twenty eight seven, and then twenty

572
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: eight seven it would have been wonderful your tweet interrupting

573
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: story if.

574
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Speaker 2: You always take a chance with stuff like that.

575
00:29:56,360 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: True, Yeah, but no, and especially no Joe moorehead. And

576
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: I Watchington was down offensive coaches as well, but no

577
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Joe moorehead for Trace McSorley to look so confident early on,

578
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: that early script for Penn State was fantastic Dayshawn Hamilton

579
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: was all over the place, was you know, sort of

580
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: unguardable for chunks of this game. I was super impressed

581
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Speaker 1: with the way Penn State finished out this season. I

582
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 1: know this might be a what could have been type

583
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 1: scenario for Penn State fans, but not insignificant. To win

584
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: eleven games and finish as a top ten team.

585
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Speaker 2: It was.

586
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: It was a real It was a mostly great year

587
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 1: for the Nitinny Lions.

588
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, they lose Saquon and they lose

589
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: some key members of their defense. But I think by

590
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: and large, Penn State should again be in pretty good

591
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: position next year because Trace is coming back, they get

592
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 2: a lot of their offensive line back. I think the

593
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,880
Speaker 2: bones are in place to continue on what they've done

594
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 2: the last two seasons. And Ricky Ronnie their new offensive

595
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 2: coordinator with the exception of a lot of shuffle passes

596
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 2: which I didn't fully understand. That was strange, That was strange,

597
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 2: didn't fully get that. But with the exception that I

598
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: thought he showed a nice proclivity to go for the throat,

599
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: to carry over a lot of the same concepts that

600
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: we saw under Joe moorehead. So I'm very encouraged about

601
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 2: where this team goes now moving form.

602
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 1: And he's not just interim. He was promoted, promoted from within, correct,

603
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: promoted from within. Next year schedule looks pretty fantastic. It's

604
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: not bad. Most of the tough games are at home. Yeah,

605
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: the tough games are at home. It's app State at

606
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 1: pitt Kent State. It's not good at Illinois. I mean,

607
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: here are the big ten road games at Illinois, at Indiana,

608
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: at Michigan, at Rutgers. Yeah, all things considered, you'd take

609
00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: that if it's workable. For sure.

610
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: Penn State wins thirty five to twenty eight over Washington

611
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: and the Fiesta Bowl Capitol One, Orange Bowl Dan Wisconsin

612
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 2: thirty four, Miami twenty seven. I think I've made it

613
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: pretty well known that I am not very horny for

614
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: Alex Fornybrook. Wow.

615
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: I've got some surprising and shocking news for your loins. Tie.

616
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Speaker 2: He was.

617
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Speaker 1: He was real good.

618
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: Four touchdown passes for Alex Hornybrook two hundred and fifty

619
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 2: eight yards in a big game, sort of a road

620
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: game all things consider given the fact that it was

621
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: played on Miami's home field. Yeah, a great effort from him.

622
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: He wasn't always as responsible with the ball this season.

623
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: But no, especially against a defense as fast and turnover

624
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 1: happy as Miami's.

625
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I mean, what can you say? He had

626
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 2: a great performance in this game. He propels Wisconsin to victory. Here,

627
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 2: another triumph for the Big Ten. Wisconsin held the ball

628
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 2: for almost forty minutes. They made Malik Rosier force balls

629
00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 2: into coverage, which had predictable results, three interceptions for him,

630
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: and you know, Wisconsin again relies on its defense to

631
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 2: help spin things in their favor, and then they get

632
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 2: a really good game out of Hornybrook.

633
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I imagine Malik Rogier looking into the Wisconsin secondary

634
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: and just pass defense in general, probably saw fifteen guys

635
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: back there. Yeah like that. There were just so many

636
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: was Conston Jerseys swarming to the ball in every lane

637
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: and again, a sort of tribute to the job that

638
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: and it's not just Jim Leonard, but Jim Leonard this

639
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 1: season and the job you know, Justin Wilcox did before

640
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: him and Dave Randon did before that. The continuity of

641
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: just very good defenses in Madison has been incredibly impressive.

642
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 1: And Jonathan Taylor tailback going for what dan near two

643
00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: thousand yards? This is a true freshman.

644
00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah.

645
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, just a ridiculous year from Wisconsin. And obviously Miami

646
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 1: playing through a number of key injuries on offense, but

647
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: this was and it was a game. This was what

648
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: twenty seven to twenty four in the fourth quarter, It

649
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: was still a game with every close Miami struggled with

650
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, and yet good for Wisconsin for holding on.

651
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: They finished the season what thirteen and one? Just I

652
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 1: mean the schedule is, yes, the schedule, but still stupid ridiculous.

653
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: A nice win for them to close out the year.

654
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,480
Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the Peach Bowl. Yeah, UCF

655
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: wins over Auburn thirty four to twenty seven. Den this

656
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 2: game at all, I did. What do you think of

657
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:02,600
Speaker 2: this game?

658
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: I thought, well, aside from the obvious it being like

659
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,359
Speaker 1: an unreal season for UCF and to go out with

660
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 1: a win over the team that beat both teams in

661
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: the National Championship. It was impressive to see the Knights

662
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: stand up on really defense more than anything. It was

663
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: nothing too new that UCF was going to put yardage

664
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: on good teams, even though Auburn's defense is on a

665
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: talent level above what UCF is used to. But Mackenzie

666
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 1: Milton has been very good all year. The fact that

667
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: he led the way.

668
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 2: He is fun as hell to watch Dan, he is

669
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: so fun. He is so fun.

670
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: But yeah, defensively to force the turnovers they did, to

671
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: overwhelm they themselves overwhelm the Auburn offensive line, which we

672
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: thought after the Clemson game had really gotten itself together,

673
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: but they seemed to struggle for long stretches maybe outside

674
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 1: of the third quarter for Auburn. Was very cool to

675
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 1: see Mackenzie Milton spread the ball around nicely, and you know,

676
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: ultimately the turnovers forced to Auburn's hand and Auburn was

677
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: in the game late, but UCF did a great job

678
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: holding on and closing the game out.

679
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: Would u CF have beaten any of the four playoff teams.

680
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, I think UCF. I don't know.

681
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: If it's seven out of ten times. But I think

682
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 1: if things break correctly and with the time to prepare,

683
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: that UCF would have to have three weeks with you know,

684
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: the Scott Frost coaching staff. I think it's for Auburn

685
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: and their defense to struggle at times with Mackenzie Milton.

686
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: And it wasn't like Trey Kwon Smith was getting behind

687
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: the secondary consistent layer, Tredrick Snelson was working them over.

688
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: It was just smart play calling, timely defense, and that's

689
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: good enough, don't I don't think they probably beat Alabama,

690
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: But could they run with Oklahoma? Could they run with

691
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: with Georgia a little bit? Could they run with Clemson

692
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: and take advantage of some bad Kelly Brian throws? Yeah?

693
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:57,400
Speaker 1: I think so absolutely.

694
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,959
Speaker 2: I think they could have given all four of those

695
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 2: teams at a minimum two and a half tough quarters.

696
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: I don't know about, you know, the final twenty two

697
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 2: and a half minutes, but I'm pretty confident that two

698
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 2: and a half quarters is something that they could muster up.

699
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, if you're able to force turnovers and

700
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: flip fields and make smart decisions on third down, you

701
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: can hang with anybody for a good amount of time.

702
00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,640
Speaker 1: It's tough though when this is you know, what's what

703
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 1: is it? The Peach Bowl? No, and a disappointing spot

704
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: for Auburn. You know, they win the SEC and they're

705
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 1: into the playoff. So I am not going to place

706
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: this on Auburn motivation because Auburn looked plenty motivated. But

707
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 1: the fact is the stakes are a little bit different. Okay,

708
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: So Auburn in a playoff, Georgia in a playoff, you know,

709
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,920
Speaker 1: climbs it in a playoff. It's just there's a different

710
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: feel and a different level of focus I think from

711
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 1: everybody involved, and that would include UCF. So really cool

712
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: to see UCF win. And the real shame of everything

713
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: was that UCF was never even in the conversation, like

714
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: the committee did you know they made a conscious effort

715
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 1: to say, yeah, you're like sixteen, Oh yeah you're eleven.

716
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,839
Speaker 1: Oh you're like thirteen, like fifteen, you're not seven, because

717
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 1: they're just protecting themselves in case there is crazy chaos,

718
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: protecting themselves from having UCF anywhere near a playoff conversation.

719
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,839
Speaker 1: And that's the shame of it, because UCF should be

720
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 1: in that conversation. I know, they didn't play a ton

721
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,719
Speaker 1: of Power five teams, but to have the opportunity to

722
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,880
Speaker 1: prove themselves feels especially given the results from yesterday and

723
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: even before yesterday, they were on a level playing field.

724
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: Players are players, and they had them.

725
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: Thirty four to twenty seven. Again, was your final big

726
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,800
Speaker 2: win for UCF. Beware the de facto national championship instead

727
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: it for ten years in this show. But the game

728
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 2: was a big deal for UCF and they got the

729
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 2: job done.

730
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: So and how many of these schools, by the way, Ty,

731
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: have claimed national championships in the exact way that UCF

732
00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: could today. There are a lot of them. There are

733
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: a lot of them, So good for you. S. Yeah,

734
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: that's all.

735
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: The other game that we'll bring up here. It's not

736
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: technically in New Year's six, but they did play it

737
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,919
Speaker 2: on New Year's Day the Citrus Bowl. We had Notre

738
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 2: Dame twenty one LSU seventeen.

739
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: Dan, I have a confession, Tie, Yeah, I barely watched

740
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: this game. No, I barely. I was with Michigan people,

741
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: and I listen, the Michigan game could have been worse.

742
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 1: The Michigan game was horrific to watch, Tie, I just

743
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 1: had to pick my poison. And I went with the

744
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 1: one that featured Ryan Nanny and a giant fried onion covers.

745
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: Right. No, of course we'll talk about that one next here. Yes,

746
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: And in fairness, I think that game, at least the

747
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 2: first half of the Citrus Bowl was worse than anything

748
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: we saw in the outback.

749
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: Bawl oh good, Okay, cool.

750
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: The first half was just dreadful, but an interesting situation

751
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 2: for Notre Dame to win this football game. They had

752
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: a lot of backups in they were playing Ian Brooke

753
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,360
Speaker 2: mostly at quarterback. He gets a big throw, a great

754
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 2: catch from Miles Boykin, laid in the game, catches it

755
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 2: one hand over his back shoulder, dodges two tacklers, scampers

756
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 2: in for a touchdown, and Notre Dame ends up winning

757
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 2: this one by four, A nice little boost to kind

758
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 2: of go into their own offseason where they've clearly got

759
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: a lot of questions to answer, not the least of

760
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 2: which is who's playing quarterback next year. Now, if you

761
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:27,600
Speaker 2: look at the box score, you're gonna see a lot

762
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: of Ian Book. I don't know if you should read

763
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: too deeply into what that means for next year. Brandon

764
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 2: Wimbush has been nicked up down the stretch here a

765
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 2: little bit. What I will say though, is if you

766
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 2: are Brandon Wimbush, to go into that bowl game and

767
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: perform the way you did, it was definitely not the

768
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,879
Speaker 2: kind of curtain call you want to close out your year.

769
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,919
Speaker 2: Like if you were looking to separate yourself from Ian

770
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 2: Book from Phil Jerkovic, who's coming in, this was not

771
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: the way to go about doing that. So I would

772
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 2: expect there to be an open competition for quarterback. I

773
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 2: am encouraged by how Notre Dame looked on defense. I

774
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,279
Speaker 2: think they're young enough and depending on who stays and

775
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 2: who goes, we could be talking about one of the

776
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 2: better front sevens in college football next year. So they've

777
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 2: made great strides on that side of the football as well. Offense,

778
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to wait and see. I think, just

779
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 2: as a whole, a really good, surprising way, quite frankly,

780
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 2: to close out their season, a big win against LSU.

781
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: Let me write this down real quick. Off season Notre Dame.

782
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 2: Quarterback, Yeah, no, it's been the thing man.

783
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: Whoo And I guess, yeah, it'll depend on who stays

784
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: and who goes. I guess does Jerry Tillery need to

785
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: take it one step at a time. Is that is

786
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,959
Speaker 1: that a goof? Does that work?

787
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 2: No? Sure?

788
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: Is that still fresh in people's minds?

789
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: You can do that?

790
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 1: Okay? Yeah, good for Notre Dame for holding on. It

791
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: was a very standard loss for LSU where they seem

792
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: to put themselves in position to score a bunch and

793
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: couldn't finish drives. And the standard issue disappointment for LSU

794
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: is nothing any football fan wants to see. It's not

795
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: fun to watch. And Darius Geist was fine, but man,

796
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: just not a fun game. Not a fun game. I

797
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 1: watched some of the highlights of this, and I'm gonna

798
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: tell you right now, ty, pretty glad I didn't watch.

799
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 2: All right, We've got fifteen other Bowl games that we

800
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 2: need to talk about, so many and we're already forty

801
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,080
Speaker 2: five minutes deep. So if it's okay with you, my

802
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 2: voice is you can hear it. It's dying here, Dan

803
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: True's dying. Members of my sweet sweet radio voice here,

804
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: let's try and move through these as quickly as we can.

805
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: If that's all I've send to you, Yes, let's tell

806
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: me about the Outback Bowl. South Carolina twenty six, Michigan nineteen.

807
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: Speaking of standard issue offensive disappointment. Michigan struggled, kept giving

808
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: the ball to South Carolina. South Carolina barely holds on

809
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: to win with five turnovers gifted to them, and Michigan

810
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 1: has a lot of soul searching and mirror looking offensively

811
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: this offseason, especially with Shaye Patterson coming in. But hey,

812
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: good for South Carolina. Did nothing in the first half,

813
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: good in the second half and Ryan Nanny ward a

814
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:08,880
Speaker 1: fried onion costume.

815
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: Awesome side that was all just Also, I saw that

816
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: the game was a little chippier than I'd expect.

817
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: It was. Well, they were like fighting in a bowling

818
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: alley leading up to the game, So hi, there's a

819
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: there's some sparks flying time.

820
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,919
Speaker 2: Quinn nordin the kicker went Crotch Graben hitting a field

821
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 2: goal at the end of the first half.

822
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, you hit three field goals in a

823
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: half and nobody else is doing anything around you offensively.

824
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,919
Speaker 1: You feel empowered? Ty all right.

825
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 2: Michigan is the only Big Ten team to lose South Carolina.

826
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 2: A nice win for them. Tax Slayer Bowl Mississippi State

827
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:47,799
Speaker 2: thirty one, Louisville twenty seven. Uh props to Mississippi State. Here,

828
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: Dan Sure they got the best of Lamar Jackson, didn't they?

829
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: They absolutely did. You know, he is once again trying

830
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: to do everything, which I understand given some of their

831
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: struggles on offense. But to me, the story was much more.

832
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: Keytonpson interim coach for Mississippi State, you know, not starting

833
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 1: the Joe moorehead era quite yet obviously in game, and

834
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:09,440
Speaker 1: Keithon Thompson, both through the air and on the ground,

835
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: leads the Dogs to a very impressive win.

836
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 2: Good for them in the Liberty Bowl Iowa State twenty one,

837
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,839
Speaker 2: Memphis twenty We had one final swan song for a boy,

838
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: the Duke of Hazzard, Allan Lazard a Liberty Bowl record

839
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 2: ten babs. Yeah, one hundred and forty two yards. He

840
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: was virtually uncoverable, even really on being one leg after

841
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: tweaking an ankle earlier in the game. Iowa State gets

842
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: their first Bowl win since two thousand and nine.

843
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, unbelievable season for Iowa State. One of the

844
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: better stories of the season couldn't really run against Memphis,

845
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:50,040
Speaker 1: but really it was the defense. Joe Lanning another big

846
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 1: game for the Clones, and Alan Lazard is right there.

847
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, Alan Lazard is a candidate. Nikhil Harry

848
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: a candidate for Well, they got one really really good

849
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: receiver and he just keeps getting open. If it's the

850
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, the Eric Decker Award, whatever it is, Alan

851
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: Lazard is right there.

852
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,800
Speaker 2: The Nova Home Loans Arizona Bowl goes to New Mexico

853
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 2: State twenty six two twenty over. You toss State in overtime.

854
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: Historic bowl win for the Aggies.

855
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,840
Speaker 2: Cool to see the Belk Bowl. Wake Forest fifty five

856
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 2: Texas A and M two four hundred yards, four touchdowns

857
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: for John Wolford. We had one final ride on the

858
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,440
Speaker 2: Wolford wagon as wake Forest goes out in style and

859
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: nice win. Nice offensive showing here by Wolford to close

860
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: out the season.

861
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, same goes for Nick Starkle. And it was what

862
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk's final game for text A and M. He

863
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: declared for the draft. But yeah, in John Wolford's final

864
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 1: game for the Deeks, he was once again stupid good

865
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:53,960
Speaker 1: and just the defense was not there for anybody. But

866
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Wake held on late against Nick Starkle. I think they

867
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 1: force a fourth and long and got the stop. Good

868
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 1: for Wake another what eight win season? Yeah, come on,

869
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: that's wonderful. I'm going to make a random prediction here

870
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: about John Wolford. Okay, John Wolford is the kind of

871
00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: guy who four years from now is randomly the backup

872
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:15,920
Speaker 1: for like the Minnesota Vikings. Okay, and due to injury

873
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: gets a start, two starts, maybe three, sort of like

874
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:25,240
Speaker 1: the Graham Harreld style exactly. Nate Peterman, Yeah, mm hmm. Fair.

875
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: The Hyundai Sun Bowl goes to NC State by a

876
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 2: fifty two to thirty one margin over ASU.

877
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: Coach by Todd Graham. Yeah, weird, a little bit strange,

878
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: lame duck situation. Herm Edwards now officially takes over in

879
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: all phases for ASU. Rough game for Manny Wilkins. Ridiculous

880
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: game for Ryan Finlay as he was mostly this year

881
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: a little down back half of the season. But NC

882
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: State a really cool way to end the year that

883
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: they probably thought they should have double digit wins.

884
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 2: And the Franklin American Mortgage Music City Bowl goes to

885
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,360
Speaker 2: Western by one twenty three over Kentucky. Yeah, what happened

886
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: in this game?

887
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,959
Speaker 1: Clayton Thorston goes down with a pretty ugly injury. Hope

888
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 1: he is able to eventually heal looked pretty brutal. And

889
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: then Benny Snell start Kentucky running back sort of waves

890
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: off a ref who's trying to help him up or

891
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,720
Speaker 1: something like that, and the ref is insulted. It's unclear

892
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: like there was not any sort of significant contact. He

893
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 1: gets thrown out of the game. Very strange. Kentucky comes

894
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: back and gives themselves. They give themselves an opportunity to

895
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 1: win the game with a two point conversion, but Northwestern

896
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:38,320
Speaker 1: breaks it up and holds on and helps to keep

897
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 1: the Big Tens Bowl record up pretty high.

898
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: The Military Bowl presented by Northrop Grumming. We had Navy.

899
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 2: Wow is that right? Whoa?

900
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: That is one hundred percent correct?

901
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:54,839
Speaker 2: A forty two point win over Virginia That's incredible.

902
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,280
Speaker 1: That is Yeah. I did not see this game coming

903
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: in this fashion. Zachaby had a nice day on the ground,

904
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,879
Speaker 1: and Navy did what Navy did and added a bunch

905
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: of defense to it. So hey, Navy, seven and six,

906
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 1: Good for you.

907
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 2: The Camping World Bowl goes to Oklahoma State thirty to

908
00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 2: twenty one over Virginia Tech.

909
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,240
Speaker 1: Not a surprise, no, not a Olahoma State. Yeah, Oklahoma

910
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 1: State with a huge offensive day for Mason Rudolph and

911
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: a couple of receivers, and Virginia Tech ultimately just couldn't

912
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: make plays at the end of the game. Too many

913
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: stall drives.

914
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: The San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl, another lopsided

915
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: game here. Wow off Michigan State forty two, Wazoo seventeen.

916
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 2: No Luke Folk in this game for Wazoo.

917
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, No. Hercules Mo to offer for the first half

918
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: because he was ejected against I want to say it

919
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 1: was in the Apple Cup, so he had to miss

920
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 1: the first half of the bowl game. And Brian Lawurk

921
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: huge day for Michigan State. Tyler Helensky not able to

922
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: keep up, and yeah Michigan State. You'll remember when we

923
00:47:57,800 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: previewed this team and knew nothing about what would have

924
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: this year. You were confident they would improve. They finished

925
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 1: ten and three. Yeah, wow, damn Michigan State.

926
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:14,399
Speaker 2: Damn the Alamo Bile TCU thirty nine, Stanford thirty seven.

927
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 2: Dan looked like this one might get out of hand.

928
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 2: Stanford had a big lead after a quarter and a half.

929
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 2: I guess that's when a hero came along Dan with

930
00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 2: the strength to carry on. You might know him as

931
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 2: Kenny Hill. This was decidedly ken Hill yep in this

932
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 2: football game. The older, the more mature version of his

933
00:48:33,600 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 2: former self. He led the charge all the way back,

934
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 2: had a ninety three yard touchdown pass to start the

935
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 2: fourth quarter. Wild game in the Alamo Dome. Cole Buns

936
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: for TCU gets a thirty three yarder with three minutes

937
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,560
Speaker 2: left to give TCU a big Bowl win.

938
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,880
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely not a ton of big plays for Stanford.

939
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: Bryce Love had a couple, but was mostly held in

940
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: check by a very good TCU rushdie upfront Jalen Rager.

941
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,280
Speaker 1: Obviously a huge day for the fraud in the air.

942
00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: And if you like interceptions, tie, my god, do you

943
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,359
Speaker 1: have to dine out at the Alamo Bowl because there

944
00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: were four of them and the field kept flipping and

945
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,960
Speaker 1: flopping and it was pretty entertaining. I enjoyed my time

946
00:49:13,360 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: with Stanford and TCU.

947
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: The Academy Sports and Outdoors Texas Bowl. It's a mouthful.

948
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 2: M goes to Texas thirty three to sixteen over Misura.

949
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: Chippy game.

950
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, chippy game.

951
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,120
Speaker 1: Between Texas and Miszoo, but hey, good for Texas. Didn't

952
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:33,320
Speaker 1: really do a ton offensively, But this is the twenty

953
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: seventeen Texas team, that's what they don't do, and defensively

954
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: did a really nice job against Drew Locke mostly held

955
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: him in check. Is ish Witter did not much at all,

956
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,680
Speaker 1: surprisingly enough, I mean, I guess not a big surprise.

957
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: Texas defense has been mostly very good this year, So

958
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: strong way for Texas to finish out the year, but

959
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: they should be closer to double digit wins moving forward.

960
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: Malik Jefferson I saw also declared the NFL draft.

961
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah and unbelieve talent for the Horns.

962
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: Foster Farms Bowl fun game. Actually Perdue thirty eight Arizona

963
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 2: thirty five.

964
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 1: A little bit controversy before the half, Yeah, yeah, the

965
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: refs told Rich Rodriguez and the Arizona coaching staff that

966
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: Purdue would be kneeling and so for Arizona not to

967
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: sort of rush the passer or you know, try to

968
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: stop any sort of run, and they end up going

969
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 1: with an end around before the half that sets up

970
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: a pretty short field goal. Ultimately, Perdue wins by the

971
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: field goal. And listen, Arizona was ahead in the second half,

972
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: they were head in the fourth quarter. They were head

973
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,799
Speaker 1: with three minutes left in this game, so they did

974
00:50:37,800 --> 00:50:40,480
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to win. But if all of that

975
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: is true, it's a bummer for Arizona, who fought really well,

976
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,960
Speaker 1: and I think the story wasn't really produced defenses it

977
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: had been for most of the year. Offensively, they spread

978
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 1: the ball around nicely. Defensively, Khalil Tate exposed a lot

979
00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 1: of what Purdue was trying to do against him through

980
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: the air. But good for Purdue. Really, this was not

981
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: a Purdue team that I think anybody was expecting much from,

982
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: even with the coaching change, and took I think a

983
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:05,360
Speaker 1: pretty big step.

984
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 2: Forward when comeback victories and the Purdue boiler Makers dan

985
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,160
Speaker 2: when they merge as one. You know what we call that?

986
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:13,279
Speaker 1: What's that?

987
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:14,959
Speaker 2: We call that the singularity.

988
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: Ah, I'll take it. I like that. Good job.

989
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 2: Elijah Sindelar showing some Cajones. The thirty eight yard touchdown

990
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: pass like a minute and forty four left gave him

991
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 2: a win. Nice win, nice win. First winning records since

992
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 2: twenty eleven Boiler up and finally two final games here

993
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,439
Speaker 2: new era Pinch Stripe Bowl goes to Iowa twenty seven

994
00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: to twenty over Boston College, and the walk On's Independence

995
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 2: Bowl goes to Florida State, who ran one up on

996
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: Southern miss forty two to thirteen.

997
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,680
Speaker 1: Indeed, not much as needed about either one of those games.

998
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:57,320
Speaker 2: Daniel, There you have it for bowl season. Mm hmmm, hmmm. Wow.

999
00:51:57,800 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 1: What was your favorite bowl game to watch? If you

1000
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 1: have the scoreboard in front of you, you have a favor?

1001
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: Was it text A and m wake Forest fifty five

1002
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: fifty two?

1003
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: Was it? Well, let's count out. Let's let's assume that

1004
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 2: the best one was the Rose Bowl. I think that's right,

1005
00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 2: the Rose Bull is the best one. Beyond that, and

1006
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 2: maybe I'm biased. I thought Penn State Washington was a

1007
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 2: ton of fun.

1008
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, for a game to legitimately be up in the air,

1009
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: and there was probably a solid three quarters of a

1010
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:30,920
Speaker 1: second when Dante Pettis got the the lateral on the

1011
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: hook and ladder where you oh, you knowing what Chris

1012
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: Peterson has where you said in the depths of your gut.

1013
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: Oh shit, it had to have been in your in

1014
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:43,240
Speaker 1: your mind somewhere.

1015
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it was totally there. Yeah, So I thought

1016
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 2: that was a funny game.

1017
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's uh, that's all sort I'm trying

1018
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: to see if any of the non new Year's Day.

1019
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I think Prue Arizona is a good answer.

1020
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: That was a really fun game.

1021
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,359
Speaker 2: And TCU Stanford was a good game, kind of being

1022
00:52:58,440 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 2: down to the wire too.

1023
00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:00,399
Speaker 1: I think that that's right.

1024
00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: Good Bowl season as a whole. We will report on

1025
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,000
Speaker 2: who ends up winning our bullpool as soon as we know.

1026
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: We won't know that until after the game on Monday. Again,

1027
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 2: your National Championship game is going to between Alabama and

1028
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 2: Georgia Monday night, January the eighth. Alabama four and a

1029
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 2: half point favorite over the george Bulldogs. Now we are

1030
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 2: going to be in Atlanta, as we said at the

1031
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 2: top of the show, as we said for many shows.

1032
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 2: Now we're going to be doing a live show later

1033
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,799
Speaker 2: on on Saturday evening. If you're able to join us,

1034
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: if you have questions, just go on out to our Twitter,

1035
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: our Facebook, our Instagram, our web page. Don't be afraid

1036
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: to look us up at saliverbleatgmail dot com. Tickets are

1037
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 2: still for sale. If you're interested in coming, you can

1038
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: find that link pretty much everywhere, and Ward knows. If

1039
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,479
Speaker 2: you've got questions, feel free to give us a holler.

1040
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: We'd love to talk to you. Yeah, the other thing

1041
00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 2: that we should add is that we will be doing

1042
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 2: a live broadcast from college Football Media Day career in

1043
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: the day, courtesy of our friends over at Facebook. We

1044
00:54:07,040 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 2: will be the special guest hosts m H if you

1045
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 2: tune into the college football playoffs, Facebook Sports set coverage

1046
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 2: of Media Day. So we're gonna be talking to Alabama

1047
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: coaches and players, gonna be talking to Georgia coaches and players.

1048
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to get some questions from the community, going

1049
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 2: to have some fun of our own. It'll be lighthearted,

1050
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,120
Speaker 2: it'll be fun. We'll try to mix in some informative stuff.

1051
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 2: Basically whatever you're used to here on the verbal we're

1052
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 2: going to try and bring that to live video format

1053
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 2: courtesy of our friends over at Facebook. So I'm excited

1054
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 2: for that as well.

1055
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: No, it'll be fun. We're gonna play some games, we'll

1056
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 1: talk about the game. We will I think we're going

1057
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: to do some learning about human beings tie totally. I'm

1058
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: looking forward to it. So, yeah, pay attention to that.

1059
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: I honestly, I'm a little bit concerned that you're going

1060
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: into this weekend. We have a long preview show. We

1061
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 1: have Facebook Sports at Media Day, and we have to

1062
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: get you with a healthy larynx. Oh my god, to

1063
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: switch Yards Downtown six to eight pm. Get your tickets

1064
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: on Where should people go to get their tickets.

1065
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 2: Saliverble dot com, Facebook dot com.

1066
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Okay. I'm worried about your voice, so just

1067
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 1: treat it like the instrument that it is.

1068
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: I will do my best here. It's not as bad

1069
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 2: as it sounds. It may be worse, but I will

1070
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 2: be in good working order by the time Saturday rolls around,

1071
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 2: I promise. Okay, fair enough, Daniel, I think this is

1072
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: where I leave you.

1073
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,960
Speaker 1: Oh, it's been a pleasure. It's been a treat.

1074
00:55:34,360 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: Feel free to tune back in a little bit later

1075
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 2: on in the week when we drop our official National

1076
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 2: Championship preview pod. In the meantime for that guy over there,

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Speaker 2: my good friend Dan Rubinstein, and myself Tie hilde Brand

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Speaker 2: here a little worse for the wear, but we'll come

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Speaker 2: back strong in a few days. Enjoy the rest of

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Speaker 2: your week and stay solved.

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Speaker 1: PEACEA