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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to so leave It. Hello

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Speaker 1: the Internet, and welcome to season seventy three, Episode one

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Speaker 1: of John Daily eight Guys, the podcast where we take

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Speaker 1: a deep dive into America's share consciousness. It's Monday in

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Speaker 1: March eleven, two thou nine. Team. My name is Jack O'Brien,

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Speaker 1: be joined as always buy my co host Mr Miles Greg.

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Speaker 1: This administration is a gang of bulls, Jack O'Brien, I

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Speaker 1: but it ain't not like this. Ain't ain't say guys,

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Speaker 1: to be Joe Day thirty by the hilarious comedian and

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Speaker 1: performer Mr Eric Lamb. Gentlemen, Hello, Hello, it's good to

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Speaker 1: be back. It's always going to be back. How have

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Speaker 1: you been. I'm actually genuinely doing very good. Okay, good.

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Speaker 1: I remember last time you were sort of in a

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Speaker 1: bit of an existential fine going through divorce. Yeah, being good.

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Speaker 1: You can pay taxes to now. Remember also you're like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not paying my tax Yeah, I don't not paying taxes.

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Speaker 1: Well I went to see an account and firstly that

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Speaker 1: my previous account that made mistakes. Actually that's fine, So

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Speaker 1: it was I was like, this is too much. But

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Speaker 1: also I still feel like I don't want to pay

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Speaker 1: taxes to the country. Got steal skids. It's wait, hey,

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Speaker 1: look if you if you stand up to this government

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Speaker 1: and maybe throwing in a tax jail, they might put

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Speaker 1: your face on a quard or something. Hybe maybe on

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Speaker 1: the next you know, sort of giving myself to prison

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Speaker 1: for the message of still kids over a couple of

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Uh. Eric, it's great to have you back.

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Speaker 1: We're going to get to know you a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: In a moment. First, we're gonna tell her listeners a

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Speaker 1: couple of the things we're talking about today. We're going

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Speaker 1: to check in with where everyone's at with the cancelation

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Speaker 1: of Michael Jackson. We're gonna talk about Captain Marvel, which

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Speaker 1: blew up over the weekend, even though I didn't really

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Speaker 1: know that this character existed prior to this movie going

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Speaker 1: into production. We're gonna talk about Manafort sentence, Facebook and

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Speaker 1: their relationship to the Trump administration and some of the

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Speaker 1: people running against him in and we're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about the fact that you can buy the Mueller Report

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Speaker 1: preorder now the hottest new book. But first, Eric, we

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Speaker 1: like to ask our guests, what is something from your

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Speaker 1: search history that's revealing about who you are? So I've

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Speaker 1: recently been searching this Spider Man into the spite of

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Speaker 1: a soundtrack. Wow, Yeah, have you seen the movie first? Like,

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Speaker 1: I still haven't seen it. I know I should watch it.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it this next week because I have

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Speaker 1: to keep up with the rest of the society. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: you certainly do. Yeah, it's so good. I know that

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Speaker 1: people were like that was actually probably one of the

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Speaker 1: best movies of last year, hands down? When when the

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Speaker 1: when the one the all skills, Like, yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I need to brown kid with superhero powers named Miles.

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Speaker 1: Have you not watched it? I know I'm part of me.

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Speaker 1: I think I'm just gonna get down on myself that

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Speaker 1: I don't have that kind of power. Yeah, if any

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Speaker 1: if anything, it's going to give you the power. It's

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Speaker 1: gonna be. Yeah, I feel like the heroes inside all

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Speaker 1: of us, right, not kind of vibe. Does he wear

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Speaker 1: Jordan's in it too? Yeah? There was well, no for

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Speaker 1: the real for the real sneaker heads. He's not wearing

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Speaker 1: the ones I have I have banned bread ones. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a very different one than the Jordan's Spider Verse

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Speaker 1: ones that people not really fucking with. But I like them.

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Speaker 1: They're not with them. I mean, this is the deal. Okay.

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Speaker 1: It's a It's a model off of like the the

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Speaker 1: they're they're fine, but they're just it's a dunk. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's just an old school dunk. It's a dunk with

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Speaker 1: which isn't even Finally fascinating that people are really into shoes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: That's for supreme for sure, yes, real, yeah, the real

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Speaker 1: robbery is going down. But Eric, can you take a

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Speaker 1: band with you when you leave the store? Can you

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Speaker 1: wear a band on your feet? I wear them in

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Speaker 1: my heart? Is underrated, sir, underrated delaying gratification. I think

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Speaker 1: people at the moment, especially with our phones, and this

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Speaker 1: the time. Now now now, And so the enjoyment of

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Speaker 1: just I've recently watched a series which is not amazing,

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Speaker 1: The Umbrellas Umbrella Academy. Yeah, I'm in the middle of that.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't amazing enough for me to binge it. So

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Speaker 1: but then I've watched like one episode a day, and

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Speaker 1: I think we've forgotten to do that. Most of us,

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Speaker 1: myself to that tomorrow. Yeah, I'm all about deferred gratifications

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Speaker 1: just in general. You see the way I eat sometimes,

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Speaker 1: he still said watch Eric. So I'm yes, how's that

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Speaker 1: Actually I do like it. I like it, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But it's good and I think more than anything, it's

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Speaker 1: can I shout out to whatever like a Gerard Way

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Speaker 1: it expands the horizons of all creative kids. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: you m what is something you think is overrated? Eric Countries?

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Speaker 1: I think I'm starting to get done with it, right,

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Speaker 1: I'm very thankful that, you know, in my first twelve

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Speaker 1: and all the countries have problems, all the countries of

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Speaker 1: good things. They've all got racist they've all got lovely people,

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Speaker 1: just try and experiment where we just open up our

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Speaker 1: far borders haven't really worked. So if anything, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: to become just one planet, right, we don't need borders.

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Speaker 1: Let's just open it Up's free for all. Yeah, confederation,

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Speaker 1: a mass immigration, make migration everywhere, could be water everywhere, Greek,

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Speaker 1: work it out. And they actually they flooded themselves a

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Speaker 1: William of Orange. I will say open borders versus closed borders.

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Speaker 1: look like World War One, go to the boarder where

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Speaker 1: saying open border is less scary? Less scary and yeah,

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Speaker 1: and just knowledge people was ready to live if the

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Speaker 1: I know that, Like I'm very lucky with my job

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Speaker 1: that I get to travel and stuff. But you know,

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Speaker 1: this is every country, but when they go my country

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Speaker 1: is the best country in the world, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: where else have you been? I haven't been anywhere else

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Speaker 1: because it's the best. And I'm like, okay, mate, good data, right,

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Speaker 1: it's amazing analysis there, right. This pizza is the best.

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Speaker 1: It's a margarita. Yeah, what else have you tried? If

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Speaker 1: you tried like a nice vegetarian one or supreme No,

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Speaker 1: I don't need what's that? Yeah, I'm like, oh mate,

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Speaker 1: come on, these bagel bites are the best pizza. I've

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Speaker 1: ever had. Have you ever had a real pizza? No,

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Speaker 1: don't need to because this is the best okay, my food. Therefore, henceforth,

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Speaker 1: henceforth bagel bite here in bagel bite is the new one.

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Speaker 1: I mean when pizza's when pizza is not a bagel.

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Speaker 1: You can have pizza anytime. Let's be real here, and

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Speaker 1: it's not wrong. Miss his pockets filled with bagel bites

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00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: but weren't willing to acknowledge, and we're able to use

424
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: that to sort of re engage with his music. And

425
00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,800
Speaker 1: they said, well, have you talked to people who don't

426
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 1: want the music played? They say, yeah, I meet people

427
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 1: who like clients who don't want the music played. Other

428
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:29,119
Speaker 1: people say they need the music to be played and

429
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: and can can the music be seen as also an

430
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,440
Speaker 1: insight into what he was going through? Like I was

431
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: thinking as soon as I watched Lady in Neverland. For

432
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: some reason, I thought of man in the mirror. He's

433
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 1: asking the man in the mirror to change, and I

434
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 1: was thinking, is he talking to himself? Here? Is he

435
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 1: trying to find a way to change? But it's so

436
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 1: fucking hard to change by yourself. I think that's one

437
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: of the reasons why I brought up hypnotherapy was because

438
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 1: before I did it, I would snap, you know, if

439
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: if if things didn't go my way, I would throw

440
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: a little fucking tantrum like a little bloody boy that

441
00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: I was. And the reason I did that because I

442
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: was stuck fifteen year old me. I was a thirty

443
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: two year old man. But for some reason, and this

444
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 1: is something I forgot. I didn't realize I was holding

445
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: onto it. But I was holding onto a pain that

446
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,680
Speaker 1: happened to me as a kid. And Freud talks about

447
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: it and so many other people. The Mono myth is

448
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: about these heroes that have to tackle their their edibus

449
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:20,960
Speaker 1: complex and stuff like what you know when I when

450
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 1: I look at trophy hunters, I go, who did you

451
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:26,680
Speaker 1: really kill your mom or your dad? Because ultimately people

452
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: people look up to their parents rightly so, because we

453
00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: idolize them because we needed for survival, and then we

454
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: forget that when they make a mistake, we hold onto

455
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:39,320
Speaker 1: it like, I can't believe my parents did this. But

456
00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: then you realize, surely as a as an adult, not

457
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: only are we all just improvising through life, because this

458
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: is and no one knows what they're doing without even

459
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 1: a one word suggestion, right, and so we have to

460
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,680
Speaker 1: yes and everything, and it's terrifying. And then you realize, oh, ship,

461
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: my parents are just people. So you can realize that

462
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 1: they're people. You realize, oh, man, like what you know,

463
00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 1: they did their best, and sometimes their best can be

464
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: fucking ship, but that might still be their best based

465
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: on how their parents treat them. And you go back

466
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,240
Speaker 1: and forth, and it's the same thing with Michael Jackson.

467
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: You could sort of get a glimpse into why he

468
00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 1: became the monster that that was, but yeah, it's I mean,

469
00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,600
Speaker 1: he did a horrible thing and it shouldn't be forgiven.

470
00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:25,159
Speaker 1: It should get not like cancel culture, I think is

471
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: an absurd way to describe dealing with the consequences of

472
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:33,040
Speaker 1: the things that people did, or not having a double

473
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,520
Speaker 1: standard for famous people, you know, not just letting people

474
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: get away with ship and not ignoring the consequences. We

475
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 1: should look at Elvis and so far as that was

476
00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: a behavior that happened. But I think the people who

477
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: are objecting to cancel culture, I think like to frame

478
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: it as a well then they just say it's either

479
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: black and white and if they did something bad, then

480
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,960
Speaker 1: you immediate canceled them. And I think that there's probably

481
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: room for people who like the wedding DJ said like,

482
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily remove all of his music, And

483
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, I have a friend who was like, I

484
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,239
Speaker 1: still I'm going to listen to his music. And I

485
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: was like, are you going to watch the documentary? And

486
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 1: he was like fuck no. I was like, all right, well,

487
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,399
Speaker 1: I mean that's and that's that's the shame as well,

488
00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 1: because it is his right. But I feel like, yeah,

489
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: you can't bury your head. Yeah you can't ignore the

490
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: negative things in life, and negative and positive things happen

491
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: in life, and we're just going to talk about both

492
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,239
Speaker 1: of them. People are just always sucking, obsessable. I need

493
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 1: to be happy. I need to be happy and sucking.

494
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,639
Speaker 1: They just ignore everything that's sad, and it's like, if

495
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,360
Speaker 1: you're ignoring everything that's sad, you're actually deluding yourself. Right,

496
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 1: And even with this, right, it's like I look at

497
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: him like, well, am I shitty because I'm a fan

498
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: of Michael Jackson's music? Or is this more to do

499
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: with my ability to deal with the darkness of acknowledging

500
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:04,760
Speaker 1: some and like history of predation or to understand that

501
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,560
Speaker 1: that this is an actual problem? And I'm it just

502
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: forces so much introspection at least for me personally throughout

503
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: all this, because I'm like, what am I trying to

504
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,239
Speaker 1: preserve myself from? It's like, well, it's not that I

505
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 1: advocate for child sex abuse because it's the music. But

506
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 1: even then, like his music pops on on the radio,

507
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: his songs are fucking amazing. Forget Michael Jackson, forget the man.

508
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,679
Speaker 1: Just listen to the music. The music is stunning. The

509
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: music is amazing. Put put it on in a discotheque

510
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: and you will beat and you will pop and you'll

511
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 1: dance right, And it doesn't matter. I mean, it doesn't

512
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: matter that the person you know commit crimes. But but

513
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: the music itself is, but that's the thing is. Then

514
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 1: then you get into the whole argument of like can

515
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 1: you separate the art from the artist and all these

516
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 1: other things? And then it's like, well, then is there

517
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 1: like a predator period of Michael Jackson music that's okay

518
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 1: to listen to because that was prior to this? For example,

519
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: right R. Kelly is still alive now, if he still

520
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: made songs, now, I'd be like someone someone somewhere is

521
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 1: sucking up because he's quite clearly an abuser. Right, but

522
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson is dead right like, and it doesn't mean

523
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: let's go let's concentrate on the victims, let's help them heal.

524
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,680
Speaker 1: But he's gone, guys, like the music exists. People are

525
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: so obsessed with deleting history. No learned from the fucking

526
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: history A bunch of cunts. Apologies for getting absolutely, but

527
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: people just right, they just want to live in a

528
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: fucking bubble on both sides. Continue to play his music,

529
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: but then understand that part of the meaning of that

530
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:46,959
Speaker 1: music changes, has changed, the context has changed for playing them,

531
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: and respect that some person might completely object to that,

532
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: and you also have to respect that person's you know,

533
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: if there and if somebody asks you to turn his

534
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,639
Speaker 1: music off or not play it at their wedding, obviously,

535
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: And I think it's that and I think it would

536
00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: be fun, you know, because then you've got a different

537
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: meaning to beat it to smooth. Criminal Man in the

538
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: Mirror is really interesting because first of all, Man in

539
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: the mirror, like he was somebody who did not accurate

540
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, he had horrible body and you know, just

541
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: person dysmorphia, so he couldn't accurately see his own reflection

542
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,199
Speaker 1: in the mirror. But then also, like like you were

543
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,920
Speaker 1: talking about, he's asking himself to change, but he's also

544
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: the only person because he was so famous, he's the

545
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 1: only person who was holding himself to account, you know,

546
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: like he's trying to police his own behavior and like that.

547
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: Just I think it's a good point that you brought

548
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: up therapy because that's the value of therapy is you

549
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: can't look at yourself and be objective and be the

550
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: person policing yourself. You need to bring somebody else in

551
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: and tell them about what you're dealing with, like other

552
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: people your mirrors. Yes, And and the reason the reason

553
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: I went to hit the therapy was because my wife

554
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 1: ex wife she pointed out that I needed mothering right,

555
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, interesting, like and I was like, oh,

556
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 1: I didn't realize, like, I'll work on that. And she

557
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: was like, but you know, don't be embarrassed by it,

558
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: like it was obvious, like you got you got abandoned

559
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: by your mom at the age of fifteen. And I

560
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh, oh yeah, that's interesting, right. And so

561
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I realized that I was going

562
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: I was jumping for one relationship to another, and I

563
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: was doing the same patterns that I felt like I

564
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 1: couldn't control and end up with this type of person kinship,

565
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: and it was annoying me. I was like changing my day,

566
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: and so I was annoying me, and that's why I

567
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: did him in the therapy and I got rid of it.

568
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: And then I realized I was looking at my dad,

569
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: and my dad got abandoned by his mom at the

570
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 1: age of eight, So not only did he repeat the

571
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: cycle on to me, right, but also now I'm looking

572
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: at his relationships and he's just jumping from one to

573
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: another and going, oh man, that's so fucking sad. And

574
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: and then you look at people in general, literally all

575
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: of us. Have you know this thing inside that they're

576
00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: there are cycles of abuse or trauma that we don't

577
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: even realize. We're however small big. You know some people

578
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: it might be a small thing, but you know it's

579
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: a ripple effect. You're you're bumping up against the you know,

580
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: it's like an intersection of believing victims, empowering victims, holding

581
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: people to account, celebrity. There's so many fucking layers to

582
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: it that it's not like it's not the question is

583
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: a child sex predator good or bad? It's this it's

584
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: what does that mean? Is you know this person is dead,

585
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: that they've left a legacy culturally that people still have,

586
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, that they've absorbed through osmosis. It's super difficult

587
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: because I've watched the thing yesterday and I was like,

588
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: I'm not going to give up my music. Yeah, I

589
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: just I'm not because I love I love his music. Yeah,

590
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:46,360
Speaker 1: and but you're still but yeah, it does like I

591
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: may not play yeah right, yeah, yeah. I mean I

592
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 1: think that's the thing is that it's going to be

593
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,720
Speaker 1: different for people who are victims of abuse. Here Michael

594
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,720
Speaker 1: Jackson music, and that's going to have its own kind

595
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 1: of tape. As like I was saying, it changes the context.

596
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: So we need to be sensitive to that. And if

597
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: somebody doesn't want to hear Michael Jackson music, or maybe

598
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 1: like ask before you put it on, Like, is everybody

599
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 1: cool if I play Michael Jackson's song? That's not that's

600
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: not like I don't know. People are just like, oh

601
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 1: so now because you're criticizing him, then he's totally canceled

602
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,320
Speaker 1: and I can't listen to Thriller ever again. And it's like, no,

603
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't think the options are either we can never

604
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: talk about him again, or we listen to his music

605
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: without any consequence. I think it's just that we are

606
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: acknowledging something that happened and that we have to deal with,

607
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: and that is now a part of this story that uh,

608
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,959
Speaker 1: you know, we that has been a part of everybody's lives,

609
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 1: and let's just not bury our head in the sand

610
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 1: one way or another. At a minimum, the era of

611
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: willful ignorance around it has ended. Yes, guys, I feel

612
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: like we are on the verge of solving a human condition,

613
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 1: but we have to go to a break unfortunately, so

614
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: maybe next time, I don't know, well, we'll be right

615
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: back and we're back and Captain Marvel. Big ups to

616
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel had a had a big weekend of the

617
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 1: box office. U. I think box Office Mojo had it

618
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: anywhere between a hundred and thirty five hundred seventy five million,

619
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: which another yeah, yeah, it's really good. I don't know,

620
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,720
Speaker 1: I'm so rich, you know, I don't know, I don't know.

621
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: To you guys a lot of money. So, uh, this

622
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: is I think wild for a couple of reasons. One

623
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: another l for the male community of people who try

624
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: to influence the how successful a movie is, like by

625
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 1: down voting too, because they took that ability away. So

626
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: the backlash from men who had seen it, and we're

627
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: just mad that there was a female superhero movie. I

628
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: think that that also that nuts sometimes neds are a

629
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 1: bit mad, and I'm I'm a nut, but we're gonna

630
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: get into the nerd of it all in a moment.

631
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: The other kind of thing that stood out to me

632
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: about Captain Marvel is we were sitting here recording a

633
00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: week and a half ago and a fighter jet flyover

634
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: like information like it was the fucking super Bowl happened

635
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: like during one of our recordings, and usually we don't

636
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Speaker 1: have that like I think it's warranted for a daily

637
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Speaker 1: zeitgeys recording to have a fighter jet flyover, but uh,

638
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: we did a little research and it turns out it

639
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 1: wasn't for us, it was for the They were practicing

640
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Speaker 1: for that evening's premiere of Captain Marvel, and apparently Captain

641
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Speaker 1: Marvel is one of the biggest military propaganda movies of

642
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,320
Speaker 1: all time. It's like up there with Top Gun. Oh yeah, yeah,

643
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 1: it's like all the fighters. Is that just because of

644
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: I mean, like the hardware that the equipment that they

645
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: allowed them user, the care I don't even really. It's

646
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: so when Top Gun happened, there was a rise in

647
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: application to the U. S. Navy, and I think that's

648
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: the same sort of thing with this, like Interstella created

649
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: more astronal applications and so like when you look at

650
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: like Captain Marvel and she's this as well, that makes

651
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,759
Speaker 1: people want to you can't make I haven't seen Captain Marvel,

652
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: so I don't know the specific details. But with regards

653
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: to the Top Gun, you could not have made that

654
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: movie without Pentagon being a like, at least like huge

655
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: partner in the production of that movie, because they're the

656
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: only ones who have fucking aircraft carrier. Right, there's not

657
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: like some guy doesn't have want to rent, right, you

658
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: can't rent an aircraft carrier. So the Pentagon was like

659
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: a I got like necessary ingredient, and they don't look

660
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 1: around when it comes to script oversight. They're like, Okay,

661
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: you're making a movie. We're going to make one with you,

662
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: and we're bringing our script consulting out and they're going

663
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: to be in the room for the scripting and all

664
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: the creative decisions from this point forward. Yeah. That like,

665
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,600
Speaker 1: once you invite the Pentagon, then you get access to

666
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: a lot of really cool toys, and you a Pentagon

667
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 1: a really good script supervisor, you have great instincts. Yeah,

668
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: what's his face? The guy who wrote adaptation I think

669
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: before Charlie Kaufman was there before at the Pentagon. Yeah,

670
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: Paul Thomas Anderson. I also believe a resident there just

671
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 1: doing some commercials. But yeah, I think you know, why,

672
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: where's the top gun for teachers? You know? I mean

673
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: that's what we need. We need a good film like

674
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: that so people can be like, you'll like any good teacher,

675
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: lick for a teacher. Yeah, and she's just walking into

676
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,040
Speaker 1: the class. Yeah, And then finally, the thing that stood

677
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 1: out about this particular Marvel movie to me is that

678
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: this was the first one where I didn't know anything

679
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: about this character until she was introduced. You knew about

680
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: aunt Man. I knew about aunt Man. Funk. I don't

681
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: know about aunt Man. Yeah. I thought the Wasp was

682
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 1: this dude I went to high school because that was

683
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: somebody's nickname. Yeah, dude, Brett, what a great Otherwise, Okay,

684
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Speaker 1: boat to Brett, Now I get it, like Anglo Saxon Protestant,

685
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 1: right right? Um? I think I only knew about aunt

686
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 1: Man because I had been saying that they needed to

687
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: remake Honey I Shrunk the Kids as an action adventure

688
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: movie for the like, with modern special effects, and people

689
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:28,120
Speaker 1: were like, they're going to with ant. But anyways, so, Eric,

690
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: you were saying that this is part of sort of

691
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: the afterlife of the Avengers movies, right, Yeah, So I

692
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: don't know too much, but I know that the you know,

693
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: you've got the original Avengers, you know, iron Man, Thor

694
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: and all of that, and I know that at some

695
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: point they are going to either die or stop being

696
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: part of the Avengers, and you people are going to

697
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: come in and that's why I think they've introduced Captain Marvel,

698
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,240
Speaker 1: who will be part of the Avengers. And I believe

699
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: there's a trailer for the next Spider Man. I can't

700
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: remember his name, but Jake's in the holes superhero character mysterio.

701
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: I can't remember. No mysterions in South Park, but they

702
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: there is a sort of he's got like a sort

703
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: of aquarium head fish bowl, fish bowl, helmet's mysterious mysterious, right, So, um,

704
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: I know that I believe, you know, I believe that

705
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: these guys become Avengers in the future because after Avengers endgame,

706
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:24,000
Speaker 1: it's not the end, it's just the end game for

707
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: like Tony Stark for example. I'm still haven't watched Civil War.

708
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: It's a good one actually, or what was the other way,

709
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: the one where Danos is in because I'm afraid what

710
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: happens in it. I heard Infinity War, Yeah I was.

711
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's great, if I can handle it. Well, yeah,

712
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 1: it's an interesting one because I think you're on the

713
00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: side of Fanos. I'm definitely a fan of pharos Uh

714
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: and all the work they do. So I got a

715
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: lot of money and that I have to update you

716
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: on how that company ended up doing. What do you mean,

717
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: I just put a down payment on this yacht broke?

718
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: And you're gonna be laughing when you're not there, you

719
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: in the Wasp on that on that down payment, Mr

720
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: Pink shorts. But know it's angry because basically, I think

721
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Captain Marvel was a man and she eventually becomes Captain

722
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: Marvel in the comics, and she she does work with him.

723
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 1: It's something like that, right, It's like she works with

724
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 1: him and then when he retires, she becomes it, and

725
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: they just bypassed that storyline, right, And I think that

726
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: that's what the nerds are angry about. Well that and

727
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: also she said that it was more of a criticism

728
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: of a lot of the journalist she said she was

729
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 1: encountering during the press tour, which tend to skew like male,

730
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 1: older and white, and she was like, I wish I

731
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: was talking with people like, oh, okay, so you don't

732
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 1: need white men to go to the movie heard and

733
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: now we're going to roast the Ratten Tomato score. If

734
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: white men need to watch the movies, watch literally anything

735
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: made before the nineties, because just now there's still a

736
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: high chance now you're going to be fine with what

737
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: you see. I've started watching like older movies just for

738
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: a bit of fun because I'm not watching, you know,

739
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: the old cinema, and my goodness, it's just white man,

740
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: one woman going, I don't know what I'm doing back now,

741
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: I'll take control. It's super interesting. Yeah, like a little

742
00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: glimpse into like and not not again racing cinema, racing history,

743
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,319
Speaker 1: like just because they're just full of white men and

744
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: they kind of misogynists and racists and stuff. Do we

745
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: just delete that cinema? Now? You need to look at this,

746
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,439
Speaker 1: you can go, yeah, it's like yeah, just like it's

747
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's in the same way. A lot

748
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: of like in the South, they don't like to teach

749
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: too much about slavery, right because if you don't see it,

750
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: then it's hard for you to think that that's a

751
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: bad thing. But if you're confronted in with your eyes

752
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: to look at look at these scars on the backs

753
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,879
Speaker 1: of slaves, look and listen to these whole stories, you're

754
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 1: more likely about Yeah. Although I mean still a very

755
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: it's a cycle we're still trying to end to in

756
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:02,040
Speaker 1: this country. I also, gentlemen, if they told World War

757
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: two and stuff in their schools, and they were like

758
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, right yeah, And I was like, good,

759
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 1: you know, that's like an interesting thing that they were

760
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: very adamant about teaching it. Sure. Yeah, they did a

761
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: good job with their reaction to World War Two. I

762
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 1: feel like from a Hi, looks look like Germany turn

763
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: it around, right, they gave it. They gave it two guys.

764
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe they're planning the next one. And now,

765
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,280
Speaker 1: despite all of their best efforts, there are right wing

766
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: extremists everywhere on the rise. Up Raik three year out

767
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,879
Speaker 1: like it. You know what I mean? Baseball boom oh,

768
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: now I go you're referring to baseball Nazis. Huh that

769
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: a movie yet, Baseball Nazi Baseball Nazis. I feel like

770
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 1: everyone's doing like the Nazis, zombie Nazis, something with Nazis.

771
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 1: They did soccer Nazis in an eighties movie starring Sylvester Stallone.

772
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: They did Yeah Yeah Victory and it was like playing blue.

773
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,359
Speaker 1: I think, so yeah, very good. Hit this free kick

774
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: from most side of the eighteen. Alright, he's got all

775
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:19,760
Speaker 1: the lingo. I'm still playing three in the back here. Alright, alright, alright,

776
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: Paul Manafort. Fuck got so. Mueller's recommendation was a minimum

777
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 1: of nineteen years. Uh, those just the sentencing guidelines. So

778
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: those are like the ones Congress says like for these

779
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: kinds of crimes, this is the minimum is around nineteen years.

780
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: Mueller was like, there's no reason to go easy on

781
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: this guy. Basically, That's why I was like, here we go, right,

782
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: that it was gonna be lights out for him for

783
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: the radio. And it turns out that the judge did

784
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: not like that advice. Yeah, because he sends him to

785
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: forty seven months. Yeah, basically with nine months served already. Right,

786
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:03,439
Speaker 1: so you know, for these financial crimes. Now, I think

787
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: this has led to all kinds of people being like

788
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: this the fixes in because the person said, he's like

789
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: lived in an otherwise blameless life, which is like really

790
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: all the fucking pr spin for he's done for like

791
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: dictators and ship and literally sending the Russians polling and

792
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 1: from whatever. Fine about the judge, right, this judge in

793
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 1: particular Elliott, he is not a fan of being told

794
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: what to do when it comes to sentencing, Like he

795
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 1: does not like being He's like, I'm the judge, I'm

796
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:36,439
Speaker 1: known presiding over this. That's what you suggest that, right.

797
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 1: He sounds like he's pushed back actually, you know, on

798
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 1: certain instances about mandatory minimums for drug dealers. So he

799
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,360
Speaker 1: kind of this is sort of consistent with his brand

800
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: of just like don't time, I'm the judge. I'll do

801
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: what I want to in my court. Thank you for

802
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: the suggestion. I'm still the judge. However, like part of

803
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: his deal is he recognized that federal penitentiary is like

804
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: a very bad place to be. He's like, anybody who's

805
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: saying that this is too easy has never been inside

806
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: a federal Well he's but this one he would be

807
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: going to is for a white collar crime, you know

808
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like he's going to sing sing

809
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: or something like that. But again, even with like white

810
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 1: collar crimes, I think there was some stat they said

811
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: that like almost sixty six percent of the time he

812
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,200
Speaker 1: was staying within guidelines and other times he would sort

813
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: of be a little more lenient. And everyone's people are like, well,

814
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 1: what's so different about Paul Manafort, Like what's going on?

815
00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: And I think the bigger discussion is probably going to

816
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,720
Speaker 1: be around the way we treat white collar crime in general,

817
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: because there are still motherfucker's who like what that woman

818
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: who have voted in Texas while on probation and like

819
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:37,960
Speaker 1: she had the wrong idea or something they put in

820
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: five they put it in prison for five years, or

821
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,439
Speaker 1: just all the people in prison for marijuana is still

822
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, that's and I think that's

823
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: what sort of the the issue to me is because

824
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: he still has to face Amy Berman Jackson in d

825
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: C and his DC case, and he could probably get

826
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: up to ten years from her. Uh and at his age. Look,

827
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: it's not going to be a joy ride no way,

828
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: no matter how you look at it. But I think

829
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: the the idea of how we look at crime and

830
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: the sentencing, I think is a is a bigger issue

831
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,640
Speaker 1: too that we can we should begin discussing because these

832
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 1: disproportionate sentences or it's like, oh, well, look, if you're

833
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 1: a white rich guy or you do rich people crimes,

834
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: we know you mean, well, you're not wacky that you

835
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: just deceive people and defrauded people. But someone who might

836
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 1: have stole some ship to support their family or you know,

837
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: is dealing drugs because that's their only financial recourse let's

838
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: get to bury them under the fucking uh and you know,

839
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: and it sort of wears down our trust in these institutions,

840
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 1: right the presidency, the executive or like whatever, Congress or

841
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: like look at the Republicans and not willing to do

842
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: ship slowly. The judiciary is also crumbling too, because we're like, well,

843
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: look at who how they're stacking the Supreme Court. It's

844
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 1: become part is in there. We're not even seeing like

845
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Speaker 1: a real, actual blind application of justice and the law.

846
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,480
Speaker 1: I sometimes feel like the government and this isn't all

847
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: just you know, this Trump administration, but it's pretty his

848
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 1: governments and his governments around the world at the moment,

849
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: it seems like they really want people to start just

850
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 1: losing hope. You know, they just keep throwing something just

851
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 1: to go, you know, we are in power here and

852
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna fuck you over. And at some point, I'm

853
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 1: French mate, like we we behead the people. Yeah, I

854
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: love your bastial day tattoo. Man, that's really dope. I oh,

855
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:25,359
Speaker 1: you know, like we're going to come for you at

856
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: some point, government, if you don't stop getting your ship together. Well,

857
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 1: Americans are very comfortable, you know, and we don't. The

858
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 1: last time people pulled up like that was in the

859
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: Civil War, you know what I mean, or the Revolution.

860
00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:39,560
Speaker 1: And I think there's just a quite large country. It's

861
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: quite hot. Yeah, it's large. And also because it's been

862
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: so prosperous, I think people are now only starting to

863
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 1: feel the sting of being totally fucked by capitalism in

864
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: this country. And that's why now you're like, hey, what

865
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: the fund is going on? Exactly. Yeah, So it'll it'll

866
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,359
Speaker 1: be a bit of a journey. But you can hear

867
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,759
Speaker 1: more about that. An upcoming podcast are doing called it

868
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,359
Speaker 1: Could Happen Here, Yes, with Robert Evans m hmmm, uh,

869
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:06,319
Speaker 1: dropping Mary talking about the how a civil war could

870
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Speaker 1: happen here, could actually happen in the next couple of

871
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: years in the United States. All Right, we're gonna take

872
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 1: a quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back.

873
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: And ilhan Omar keeps it hot in the Congress, in

874
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: this US Congress, you know, in addition to all the

875
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 1: controversies she's created with her statements about it manufactured controversy, right,

876
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 1: manufactured controversy, but she she does not shy away from,

877
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, speaking her mind when it comes to that story.

878
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: People are also going crazy because she said some things

879
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: about the Obama administration that are not that are not

880
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: deemed as that cool. Obama is a good guy, right,

881
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 1: what the rock drowne Obama? So that is causing some

882
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: people to kind of look at her askance. But it's

883
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: all okay because they passed a hate speech decree saying

884
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: hate speech is bad, hay speech is bad, is ms

885
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 1: are bad, phobias are bad, and that's that. Can we

886
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,640
Speaker 1: move on now because we've done our thing. Look, they

887
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: passed that weird bill that we were talking about last week.

888
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: How it got very watered down and just turned into

889
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: a general just sort of resolution about we don't like

890
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: this stuff. Great sounds like a real easy thing to

891
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,240
Speaker 1: just passed almost unanimously. Right. The bill is based saying

892
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: we as a Congress, we fucking denounced this kind of

893
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: ship we like, you know, the anti semitism, is lamphobia,

894
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: just racism in general, all that kind of ship. Um.

895
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: But still twenty four Republicans found a way to say

896
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't agree with that statement in a very roundabout

897
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: way because they wanted the that bill to turn into

898
00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:10,280
Speaker 1: not just racism's bad k bill into a lar ilhan

899
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: Omar hates Jews and the Damns are okay with it.

900
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: So they are the Nazis, not us, the people that

901
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,319
Speaker 1: actually are Nazi sympathizers. Because look your boys, Steve King,

902
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:25,280
Speaker 1: he didn't vote no, he voted present a true profile, encouraged,

903
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 1: and the other Republicans have voted against it. We're basically

904
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: saying it's watered down, it didn't go far enough, because

905
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 1: I think they just wanted to see her completely run

906
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: out on a rail and just being just lambasted by

907
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 1: this thing, rather than just being like, what about the

908
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: sentiment of this bill? Why don't just vote purely on that? Here? Yes,

909
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: That's how I answer yes or no questions, just shouting

910
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: I'm here, Jack, you love your kids here? Do you

911
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: ever like, do you ever just feel sorry for the

912
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: people that go against what feels like the good or

913
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: the love or the right choice? Does it make sense

914
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: like they're never happy? Right? It just I actually genuinely

915
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: do feel sorry for the people are so angry at others,

916
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,839
Speaker 1: you know, like it for me, Jane ly seems kind

917
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: of illogical. It's a painful place, I think, to be in,

918
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 1: to be in a constantly in a state of hatred. Yeah,

919
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: Like I wake up every day and I go, you know,

920
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: and I've worked on it, the theropy thing. Like I

921
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: wake up and I go, Okay, this is nice. How

922
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: can I be nice today? Sure? How can I do

923
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: my life and be nice? And some people just wake

924
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: up and go Muslims, if you're in a position, if

925
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: you're in a position of power, and you can actually

926
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: translate that hate into real world violence or disinfr disenfranchisement

927
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 1: or oppression for other people, I don't give a funk

928
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 1: about you. Yeah. In fact, I need you to fall

929
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: the funk all the way back. And in fact, they're

930
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 1: probably too busy winning from like cynically manipulating those emotions

931
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: of other people. But general people who are feel the pain. Yeah,

932
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 1: regular people out there who have hating your heart. Look

933
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: you you, I hope your eyes are open, because that's

934
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:03,879
Speaker 1: not a way to live. It's not good for you.

935
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:07,319
Speaker 1: It's talk. It's literally not good for you. That's what

936
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: people don't understand. It's like it's like road rage. When

937
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: I see people just losing the ship in the car,

938
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know that that anger is not being

939
00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,239
Speaker 1: transferred to the car ahead of you. It's just you

940
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,440
Speaker 1: and now the passengers are stuck inside of your car

941
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: just and yourselves are on a cellular level, they're being like, yeah,

942
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 1: it's like just like drinking poison to try to kill

943
00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: somebody else. That's not how that works. Yeah. But you

944
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:34,719
Speaker 1: know again, the Republicans really they just wanted to take

945
00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 1: this moment because they realize they're on the side of

946
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 1: the worst president of all time. Uh it's like poka, Yeah,

947
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: the wote, not the goat, the wote worst of all time. Um,

948
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 1: and they need as many distractions as they can. I mean,

949
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: listen to even how Donald Trump was talking about the

950
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: Democrats despite all of his racial racist commentary, because it's

951
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: become the Democrats have become an anti Israel party. They

952
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: become an anti Jewish party. And I thought that vote

953
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,160
Speaker 1: was a disgrace, and so does everybody else, if you

954
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: get an honest answer, everybody else, Um, look, I like yeah,

955
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 1: I like I hadn't fully understood that the dual allegiance

956
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:27,200
Speaker 1: thing was something that Jewish people were sensitive about, because

957
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: it was one of Hitler's early allegations about Jews was

958
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: that they weren't true Germans, they weren't truly allegiant to Germany,

959
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: and therefore he used that as justification to persecute them.

960
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 1: So I get the sensitivity. I just want to make

961
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:48,200
Speaker 1: sure that the people making the complaint about Ilahan Omar

962
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: were also complaining when Donald Trump said during the Republican

963
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,879
Speaker 1: primary that Jews didn't like him because he didn't give

964
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:59,359
Speaker 1: them money, but that he liked them because they're good

965
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: at negotiayations? Did did we forget the good people on

966
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: both sides? Has anyone forgotten the day when Nazis killed someone? Right?

967
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: We'll forget? I'm not in my mind. No, it's true,

968
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: And I think that's why. That's why it's even more

969
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: disheartening to see the Democratic leadership be like, oh, yeah, okay,

970
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: let's uh. We we want to change the optics around

971
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:29,080
Speaker 1: this situation by condemning that without just being like, excuse

972
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: anti we really mr both sides. Yeah. If the people

973
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: who get mad about Omar or anybody criticizing Israel also

974
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 1: disavowed the president back when he said the first anti

975
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: Semitic thing, he said, I'm good. We can have a conversation.

976
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: Until then you can go yourself. I would really enjoy

977
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 1: Someone asked to ask the president tell me about Israel

978
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: and past time. Don't tell me tell me the history. Honestly,

979
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know. Yeah, I mean from would be.

980
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 1: But I feel like YouTube needs just sort it out

981
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 1: because I'm getting tired of it. Yeah, who told me?

982
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: Very bad? They're very bad people. They don't pay their taxes.

983
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: They they use other people's logins for Netflix. They're just

984
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: they're they're criminals. Yeah, I don't know. I mean he

985
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 1: has no he has no Yeah, and about history, right,

986
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,560
Speaker 1: Like it's okay to know. This is to everyone listening,

987
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 1: it's okay to not know. Just find out. Yeah, but

988
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: he's what but it's his psychology. Was like, he's one

989
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: of those people will never lets you know that he

990
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: doesn't know what the funk he's talking about. And in fact,

991
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 1: if you ask many people, many people, every man, everyone

992
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,560
Speaker 1: saying that I'm an expert in Israel Palistine. Wow, is

993
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 1: that your Trump? That's felt very trumpy and good? Yeah,

994
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: good is a strong word. Let's talk about who the

995
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 1: president hangs out with and takes pictures with. This is

996
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,280
Speaker 1: just a fun well, it's just a quick and quick story,

997
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,520
Speaker 1: just a good a quick let's call it a Google

998
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:08,440
Speaker 1: image search check in. Uh, you can find the president

999
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:12,799
Speaker 1: in photographs with the founder of the massage parlor where

1000
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: Robert Kraft was caught soliciting sex. And these photographs are

1001
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: not like back in the seventies when they were both

1002
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: in college. They are from the past couple of months.

1003
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: It's from Super Bowl Sunday, this last Super Bowl when

1004
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:28,719
Speaker 1: the when the fucking Patriots were winning. She took a

1005
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:31,279
Speaker 1: Selfiere's woman, Cindy Yang. I mean, she's not named in

1006
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 1: any of the charging documents because you know that whole

1007
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Bust uncovered an entire network of massage places that were

1008
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: just trafficking women, um. But she began those businesses um.

1009
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: And she herself apparently has another like a massage parlor

1010
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 1: spa that is under some police scrutiny for kind of

1011
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 1: the same thing where management is encouraging the employees to

1012
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: offer sex and things like that. You know, it's interesting

1013
00:54:55,920 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: this woman, Cindy Yang, Like she has a photo with

1014
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: so many Republican like leaders, Like she's got a Palin selfie,

1015
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,600
Speaker 1: she's got one with Matt Gates, she's going with Eric Trump,

1016
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: Don Jr. If she's got them all. But again, you know, uh,

1017
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: five pictures with President Trump. Yeah, she has another one

1018
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: where like straight up like them looks like a prom

1019
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: photo with like a backdrop, and he signed it with

1020
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: his weird uh like e K G. Reading Sure that

1021
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: looks like a heart monitor rhythm. But yeah, uh yeah,

1022
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 1: it's just an interesting photo that a lot of people

1023
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: are like, oh wow, so this person is around mar Lago.

1024
00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: And I don't even mean to say that this woman

1025
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: is directly implicated because I don't even want to. I'm

1026
00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: not even trying to do that. But again, interesting to

1027
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: see that she was the owner of the massage parlor

1028
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: where Robert Kraft was caught listening sex, right, and then

1029
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:50,160
Speaker 1: that was that business was sold to these other people,

1030
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,800
Speaker 1: and this is a listening sex from human traffic people.

1031
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: Yes corrective. Yeah, Okay, some bad news I think for everybody.

1032
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,320
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anybody who isn't an Alex Trebek

1033
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 1: fan slightly. And Alex Trebek has announced he has stage

1034
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: for pancreatic cancer, which just sucks. It's yeah, I don't

1035
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: really have anything to add about it other than that

1036
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: he seemed he was very stoic when he announced it,

1037
00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: and it was it made it almost harder to watch

1038
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: in the way in a weird way, like is he

1039
00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 1: a Jeopardy guy? Yes, how did he announce it? The

1040
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: announce it in the funnel? Did it at the podium

1041
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,319
Speaker 1: like he always does, And I want to share with

1042
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: you a bit of personal news, like that's how he did. Yeah,

1043
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,480
Speaker 1: And it was very it was very straightforward. He said,

1044
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 1: I've been diagnosed with stage for pancreatic cancer. But I'm

1045
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 1: going to fight this. I will continue this season. Like

1046
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,160
Speaker 1: he had a very positive attitude. But you know he's

1047
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 1: he's had a lot of health issues. Um, and yeah,

1048
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: it was very I think, yeah, just he's a he's

1049
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: one of those people who you just know and probably

1050
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,399
Speaker 1: grown up with, depending on how much Jeopardy you watch.

1051
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 1: But yeah, well good to him, Like it's good that

1052
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: he know, it's good that he's like positive. Yeah, yeah,

1053
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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, it's very serri mean stage four is like, yeah,

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00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 1: the just I just wish that he did it in

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00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:15,800
Speaker 1: the soul of Jeopardy style and that is that doesn't

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Speaker 1: look good. Yeah, And I was like, oh my god, Alex,

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00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: look I'm trying to laugh about that because she got

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00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: it right, like yeah, yeah. And finally a little bit

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00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 1: of news from the UK and I just apologize now,

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00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,160
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's ship news kind of so Kensing and

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00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: Palace has made moves to tackle online abuse against Megan Markle. Basically,

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Speaker 1: there's there's been a uptick in hate speech towards her

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00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:51,240
Speaker 1: of late. I think now that it's wrong with people. Yeah,

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00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: but it's it's weird because it seems like it's a

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00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,640
Speaker 1: very coordinated effort. They said that a sample of more

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00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: than five thousand tweets containing anti Megan hashtags showed just

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00:58:04,440 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: horrifying racism, but also showed that twenty accounts were responsible

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Speaker 1: for about seventy of the tweets. So it's like the

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00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: Russian like Internet Research Society or whatever. Research Research at

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Speaker 1: the i R is like out here being like nah,

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00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:24,080
Speaker 1: we gott we can't. We can't let this Megan Markle.

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Speaker 1: She's like a symbol of hope for the Western world

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00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 1: or something. Um. Also, she's a princess, right funk off?

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00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: Like I mean, like, well she's a princess. Now you

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00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: think her, You think your little tweets are going to

1076
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 1: hurt her? Like no, just stop, get out your basement,

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Speaker 1: look at the sun for a bit, and you not

1078
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: look at the sun. Well, yeah, I mean, maybe you

1079
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: waste your time posting dumb racist on the internet. Why

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00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: once you take a long hard that's actually good. I

1081
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 1: like that, Like, take a long hard look at yourself.

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00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: If you think they are not beyond saving, but they're

1083
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: beyond saving, take a long hard look at the sun.

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Speaker 1: Just I just liked the idea of like a fifty

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00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 1: six year old man with a big in his garage

1086
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: or garage or whatever you say, and he's just like, Oh,

1087
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show Megan. I'm going to show her because

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00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 1: she's black. I mean, let mean, look what happened in

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00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: this country. We had our first black president and that

1090
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: that opened the floodgates. So it makes sense that you

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Speaker 1: have a woman of color coming into the royal family

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00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: that there is some kind of backlash in that sense. Well,

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00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: isn't that testifying? But I'm like, this is that happens.

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00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 1: Isn't that why chriss Is Diana supposedly died because of

1095
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 1: DoD Yeah? Rightosedly that's the that's conspiracy, but it's an

1096
00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:41,520
Speaker 1: interesting one, certainly. Yeah, when we talk about I think

1097
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:44,600
Speaker 1: we've talked about that with you last time, potentially. Oh

1098
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: and also Mohammed Alpha had Remember he used to he

1099
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: owned Fulham Football Club and had a statue of Michael

1100
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 1: Jackson outside of Craving Cottage and then they took it down. Yeah,

1101
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: he owned Herod's right. I think Dody Alpha had anyway,

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Speaker 1: that was man, I remember I was. I was really

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00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: into that whole Diana thing when I was like a

1104
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: kid a conspiracy theories. Well, at first I wasn't like

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01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,480
Speaker 1: the conspiracy theories weren't coming in like in ninety seven

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01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: when it started happening, But like I remember, I read

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01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: everything about it for whatever reason. I don't know why. Well,

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01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,160
Speaker 1: I think it's because everyone was telling you to read it, right,

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01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: Like I remember being in France and like when when

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01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: the news broke out and stuff, and because it was

1111
01:00:20,920 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 1: old news all the time, it was old in papers,

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01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: you naturally just go, oh, well that's what's important now,

1113
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: and you just naturally just zome befy yourself to whatever

1114
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 1: the headline is. I think mine was because again I

1115
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: talked about it all the time. I have the same

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01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: birthday as Prince Harry, and I was like, fun, man,

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01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 1: I want like that could have been my mom, right,

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01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: could have been you know why? She was everybody's mother

1119
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: in that way. Thank you so much, and that's how

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01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:46,040
Speaker 1: I found peace, right, it's nice ship. So what do

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01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 1: you do you believe there's a conspiracy? Well, what I

1122
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:58,720
Speaker 1: believe in is a life after love. You. You're very

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Speaker 1: well sharing, hey, not the best and bids for nothing.

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Speaker 1: Eric has been a pleasure having you, man, thanks for

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01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: having me. And I'm not just saying that because of

1126
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: the share punt, although that did help listeners. Quickly, May

1127
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:14,000
Speaker 1: I say I've got an album out called Alien of

1128
01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: Extraordinary Ability. It's on Spotify and it's free, so you know,

1129
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: if you don't like it halfway through, you can just stop.

1130
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 1: Just stop it. Yeah, throw your phone out the window?

1131
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 1: Is there? Get so angry that take it out on

1132
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: your phone? Where can people follow you in real time?

1133
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: All the social media's that's basically it. Yeah, that's it. Yeah,

1134
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 1: that's it. Like you know, I do some podcasts, I

1135
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: do some videos on YouTube and stuff like what's your handle?

1136
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: How do they find you? It's just my name? Okay, okay,

1137
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,360
Speaker 1: and spell that because people look at a M P

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01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: A R. But like the name will be in the descriptions,

1139
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,479
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, just do some basic research. Lazy bass.

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Speaker 1: That's a very good point. And is there a tweet

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01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: you've been enjoying? Eric? Is there a tweet I've been enjoying? Yes,

1142
01:01:56,320 --> 01:02:00,080
Speaker 1: actually there is so on my timeline. I retweet it.

1143
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 1: This is like maybe seven down there is a person

1144
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: that said, this is how I want to be displayed

1145
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: at my funeral. And it's just a video of this

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01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 1: person just sort of like hanging and being taken around

1147
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:17,440
Speaker 1: a sort of theme park. But the juxtaposition between that

1148
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:20,480
Speaker 1: person not enjoying themselves at the theme park and then

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01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:23,919
Speaker 1: the tagline check out, you know this is how Oh

1150
01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: it's so weird. Wait, what is this a ride? It's

1151
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: a It looks like a woman on some kind of

1152
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: a railed zip line just flying around this weird amusement space.

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01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: But her body is so limp. It looks like a corpse.

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01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 1: And I just watched it. I watched it for like

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01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: twenty times. It's just simple things like that bring me

1156
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: joy because it does look like a corpse just on

1157
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Speaker 1: a ride. I'm gonna retweet this now if you want

1158
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: to see it. Miles, Where can people find you? Oh God,

1159
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,120
Speaker 1: do we want to get into that? You can find

1160
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:00,360
Speaker 1: me and follow me on Twitter and Instagram. I'm at

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Speaker 1: miles of gray g r A y not e y

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Speaker 1: see something all misspelling my name, respect my name for

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01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: some respect on my name. Uh. Some tweets I like.

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01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: One is from Amber Nelson at Amber Smellson. It says,

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01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: fun fact you can have a bunch of tattoos and

1166
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: also the personality of a Manila folder because I think

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01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 1: we all know somebody who's overly tattooed and you're like,

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01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: you are dull my person Uh. And another one from

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01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:29,600
Speaker 1: Samuel Mohen at Samuel Mohen it says leant me to

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Speaker 1: sing this. When I was just a little girl, I

1171
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: asked my mother what will I be? Will I be pretty?

1172
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:44,800
Speaker 1: Will I be rich? Here's what she said to me.

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01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:54,919
Speaker 1: You long cigarette dragon? No damn Uh. You can find

1174
01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien. Uh. Couple of

1175
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 1: tweets winds or man m an and tweeted Wesley Snipes

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01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: was sentenced to three years in prison for misdemeanor tax

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01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 1: evasion just a fact that you guys should know because uh, yes,

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01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,200
Speaker 1: it seems like a double standards and you have Paul

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01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 1: Manafort doing his ship. Um really uh. And then Ellerie

1180
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 1: Smith tweeted not everyone who has wept on public transportation

1181
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,840
Speaker 1: as a comedian. But every comedian has wept on public transport.

1182
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 1: That's truths so true. You can find us on Twitter

1183
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 1: at Daily Zeitgeist. Were at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

1184
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:36,040
Speaker 1: We have a Facebook campage and a website daily zis

1185
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:39,000
Speaker 1: dot com where we post our episodes. In our no

1186
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: we link off to the information that we talked about

1187
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: in today's episode, as well as the song we ride

1188
01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:47,520
Speaker 1: out on. I mean, look, since we're kind of in

1189
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: the UK headspace, I wanted to let y'all know. Idris

1190
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: Elba has bars okay, the man from Hackney, Okay, London,

1191
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: he can hold it the fun down. And this is

1192
01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 1: a track called BULLSTI with Wiley, Stephlondan, Shana Paul and

1193
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:05,640
Speaker 1: in dressed Elba No, so put this in your ears

1194
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: no okay and take down on. It's called both Yeah.

1195
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,200
Speaker 1: I just like yo Indris Elba. His voice is so gruff,

1196
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 1: but man, I'm talented, you know what I mean. He

1197
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: turned it. He turned it out on this track. So

1198
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: check this one out. All right, We're gonna ride out

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01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,640
Speaker 1: on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is

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01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 1: a daily podcast. Man we'll talk to you guys then bye.

1201
01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 1: I'll give you to wrap it up. Do my thing,

1202
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: stop be, put me on the ground and remixing. Boy

1203
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: died while with the Pacina flow. Good for the part too,

1204
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: called me to Nero. I came to wind by me.

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01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:42,919
Speaker 1: That's not there's just Na killing a top a big

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Speaker 1: d J, Hawks, Megan and Irish Manna Boss. I'll make

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Speaker 1: a gambol. I'll be this way some day and I

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Speaker 1: write for myself and no ghost needs our boy God

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Speaker 1: money and