Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Civic CZICHERI I'm your host,
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Speaker 2: He is your host, rams this job, I am h Ward.
Speaker 1: You aren't listening to cide Ciphers. Let's go a lot
Speaker 1: to stick around for this show. You know, most of
Speaker 1: the time we deal with issues that have to do
Speaker 1: with you know, black and brown people, black and brown communities,
Speaker 1: you know, and you know other marginalized groups in this country.
Speaker 1: But you know, there's been a couple of stories in
Speaker 1: the news lately that come from our brothers and sisters,
Speaker 1: our Caucasian brothers and sisters. Is tribe right, and you know,
Speaker 1: we are able to deduce that by telling these stories,
Speaker 1: we can a bring some light to these tragedies. You know,
Speaker 1: those are our family too, as we reckon. But also
Speaker 1: we can further illuminate some of the system issues that
Speaker 1: we're talking about. A lot of folks can't hear it.
Speaker 1: They feel like these are black issues, and you know,
Speaker 1: large they largely are, but that's not to say that
Speaker 1: they don't affect other community. So we're going to be
Speaker 1: sharing some really interesting stories of police misconduct and really
Speaker 1: that's it, police misconduct, and because the victims are not black,
Speaker 1: they're white. You can see better see rather the systemic issues.
Speaker 1: If you're not able to just see black people as
Speaker 1: the way in the way that black people see black people, right,
Speaker 1: and I get it. The world has taught you to
Speaker 1: be this way. We're not mad at you.
Speaker 2: We're just going to share some other story. Hey man,
Speaker 2: we got what he meant to say.
Speaker 1: We also got a lot more to stick around for
Speaker 1: as well. We're going to talk about one police department
Speaker 1: in particular that's been having a tough time and that
Speaker 1: kind of shows kind of some more of these systemic issues.
Speaker 1: And then, of course our way black history fact, we're
Speaker 1: going to talk about a black couple who help build
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Speaker 1: let's give this later for flowers. Katanji Brown Jackson gives
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court a history lesson giving a forceful performance
Speaker 1: in defense of the race conscious history of the Fourteenth
Speaker 1: Amendment and the Voting Rights Act noted by Harvard Law
Speaker 1: as policy that could even lead to the biggest decline
Speaker 1: in Black and Latino representation and generations. In the case
Speaker 1: of Merrill versus Milligan, Alabama is asking the court to
Speaker 1: overturn decades of precedent allowing a limited consideration of race
Speaker 1: to enable racial minorities to obtain equal political representation in redistricting.
Speaker 1: If you haven't heard about this, please look it up.
Speaker 1: This is a crazy thing that's going on roundbreaking. A
Speaker 1: transformation of the Voting Rights Act into a race neutral law,
Speaker 1: as Alabama is seeking, would roll back that community's progress
Speaker 1: toward equality. According to Jackson, the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted
Speaker 1: during this time to quote ensure that people who had
Speaker 1: been discriminated against the freedmen during the reconstruction period were
Speaker 1: actually brought equal to everyone else in society, and that
Speaker 1: the entire point of the amendment was to secure rights
Speaker 1: of freed former slaves. She quoted an eighteen sixty six
Speaker 1: speech by Republican representative of Pennsylvania indicating that the purpose
Speaker 1: of the Fourteenth Amendment was to halt the ongoing deprivation
Speaker 1: of rights and equality from black men and women across
Speaker 1: the former Confederate States. So, in short, Alabama is tripping, tripping,
Speaker 1: and Katanji Brown Jackson is a shining example of ebony excellence,
Speaker 1: given that she has a platform and she is using
Speaker 1: it to bring attention to this matter and let these
Speaker 1: people know that if they vote wrong, that they are tripping.
Speaker 3: To Sometimes when people want to take a trip, you
Speaker 3: got to give him a map.
Speaker 1: Listen, man, she's doing just that. So all right, so
Speaker 1: all right, we're going to move into some heavier things. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you know I'm gonna get right into it. There's
Speaker 1: there's no two ways about this. So we have seen
Speaker 1: some videos. We hope that you haven't, but it's likely
Speaker 1: that you have if you're into this type of stuff
Speaker 1: social justice, you know, watching the police making sure everybody
Speaker 1: gets a fair chance and fair shake at life and
Speaker 1: at different levels in society. One of the videos that
Speaker 1: we saw was a young man. He was in his
Speaker 1: vehicle and he I believe he went into a ditch.
Speaker 1: He was in a group as a truck, pickup truck
Speaker 1: something like that, and he called for help. He was
Speaker 1: having a bad day, and he made sure to explain
Speaker 1: to the dispatcher. I'm gonna get into this, but just
Speaker 1: so you are able to follow the story, calls the
Speaker 1: nine to one one dispatcher, asks for help, He explains
Speaker 1: his situation. Make sure everyone knows I'm not dangerous, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever he's says that he's if I remember correctly, says
Speaker 1: that he's having like a tough time mentally something like that,
Speaker 1: alludes to it or something like that. And the police
Speaker 1: show up and talked to him for a while, and
Speaker 1: then when they were tired of talking to him, they
Speaker 1: shot him. This young man was white, as I mentioned,
Speaker 1: And you know, we tell these black stories over and
Speaker 1: over again, but you know, maybe maybe you might hear
Speaker 1: a little different when it happens to a white person.
Speaker 1: Maybe their humanity is a little bit more intact. And again,
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at you for that. The world has
Speaker 1: taught you to be that way. Go ahead, you can
Speaker 1: say I'm definitely mad, okay, but I'm not. I understand
Speaker 1: that you were brought up in a society that taught
Speaker 1: you to hate better than it taught you to love.
Speaker 1: I recognize that. Now. Q's mad because you're probably an
Speaker 1: adult listening to this show, and you should know.
Speaker 2: Better about you making a decision.
Speaker 1: But I'll continue. So today's this first story rather comes
Speaker 1: from NBC News the murder of Christian Glass and our
Speaker 1: producer Magaby Know and she wanted me to ask the question,
Speaker 1: why send an armed military the word in quotes, because
Speaker 1: this is kind of the way that police behave. This
Speaker 1: isn't like the Andy Griffith Show or anything like that.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not just about behavior, but the way
Speaker 3: that they're equipped, the way that you're trained, the weapons
Speaker 3: that they carry, the tactical gear that they wear.
Speaker 1: In the mindset as well, it's like a war. They
Speaker 1: have a won their.
Speaker 2: Community military uniform. It's just blue and black.
Speaker 1: There you go. And so I think that was Maggie's point,
Speaker 1: Why send an our military that can't wait to shoot
Speaker 1: to help with a mental health issue? What was very
Speaker 1: obviously a mental health issue. So I'll read I'm going
Speaker 1: to get into Christian glasses statement to the officers. This
Speaker 1: is him talking. I have two knives, a hammer, and
Speaker 1: a rubber mallet. This is just what he had in
Speaker 1: his truck. You know, people are allowed to have things
Speaker 1: in their truck black people too, okay, And knives are
Speaker 1: not necessarily weapons. Some people hunt some people, you know,
Speaker 1: you know, if it's in a truck too, you know.
Speaker 2: But remind the audience was Christian Glass.
Speaker 1: He was not black. He was white. He was a white,
Speaker 1: young white man. Anyway, he says to the officers, I
Speaker 1: have two knives, a hammer, and a rubber mallet. But
Speaker 1: I am not dangerous. I will keep my hands completely visible,
Speaker 1: he told the dispatcher, offering to throw them out once
Speaker 1: officers arrived. Right, so he needs help. Do you have
Speaker 1: any weapons in the car? Yes, I do have this,
Speaker 1: this and this I will throw I'm not I'm no
Speaker 1: threat to anybody. I will throw them out of the car. Right,
Speaker 1: so he called for help. He's dead, now call for help, okay,
Speaker 1: all right, And the story goes on. But officers wouldn't
Speaker 1: let him throw them out.
Speaker 3: Just so we're clear, these officers are present because he
Speaker 3: called for help.
Speaker 1: Correct. We've we've shared this story too. I remember, I mean,
Speaker 1: you got to swap a couple of pieces around. But
Speaker 1: I remember a story where we shared this story where
Speaker 1: a black man was I think he was killed in
Speaker 1: his living room or his driveway or something like that.
Speaker 1: It was a similar thing. He called the police that
Speaker 1: came in and killed him. So if that didn't hit,
Speaker 1: maybe this wondoes.
Speaker 3: Here we go.
Speaker 1: The officers would not let him throw the things out,
Speaker 1: telling him to keep the weapons inside the car, as
Speaker 1: they escalated the situation of deadly violence. Please push me out,
Speaker 1: drag me out. I'll follow you to a police station.
Speaker 1: Glass told the officers, I'm so scared, I'm gonna stop
Speaker 1: right here. So he's still in his car. He's wanting
Speaker 1: the officers to push him out of the ditch or
Speaker 1: like the tie a thing, to drag him out. He
Speaker 1: will go with them to the police station. He's afraid.
Speaker 1: It's a nighttime too. By the way, if you haven't
Speaker 1: seen the video, we saw the video because there's body
Speaker 1: cam footage.
Speaker 3: This is one. This is one of those videos. Yeah,
Speaker 3: if you are a human being, we say this like,
Speaker 3: this is one of those videos that kicks you in
Speaker 3: the stomach. Yeah, it's very very stay. It is not subtle, right,
Speaker 3: and you're gonna get to it as you read some
Speaker 3: more of the statements, some more of the story, but
Speaker 3: there is a moment where it seems like, oh, this
Speaker 3: might go how it should yeah, and then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden it does not. It does not, and it
Speaker 3: is like a kick in the stomach. Yeah, yeah, because
Speaker 3: there was, there is absolutely there are sometimes where the
Speaker 3: circumstance create an outcome that that shouldn't have happened. Right,
Speaker 3: that still shouldn't happened. Even given the circumstances. It still
Speaker 3: shouldn't have happened. But it colors it in a way
Speaker 3: where maybe you can give it to someone that they
Speaker 3: were afraid and they just made a bad judgment call.
Speaker 1: This is not one of those situations, and that's I
Speaker 1: don't think that's just cute talking. You're welcome to watch
Speaker 1: the video yourself. Again, his name is Christian Glass. We
Speaker 1: don't recommend that you. We don't celebrate death, we don't
Speaker 1: celebrate violence against you know, black bodies. We don't celebrate
Speaker 1: violence against white bodies either. Again, this is our brother
Speaker 1: that is now gone because of this institution that really
Speaker 1: needs to be fixed, and it's our job to explain
Speaker 1: this and discuss it so that we can move forward. Okay,
Speaker 1: so yeah, I'll follow you to a police station. Glass
Speaker 1: told the officers, I'm so scared, you need to step
Speaker 1: out of the car. Now step out of the car.
Speaker 1: An officer said, that's a lawful order. Step out of
Speaker 1: the car now, or you'll be removed from the vehicle.
Speaker 1: Glass responded, I'm so scared. You're not communicating clearly with me.
Speaker 1: I don't understand why I have to come out. For
Speaker 1: a brief second, the responding officers had a moment of clarity,
Speaker 1: this is what you were talking about, you, and decided
Speaker 1: to call over a female officer with a much calmer demeanor.
Speaker 1: As she walked over to the car, Glass put his hands,
Speaker 1: oh God, into a heart sign and blue kisses at her,
Speaker 1: illustrating just how big of a threat he was. And
Speaker 1: I forgot about that part. I completely forgot about that car.
Speaker 1: Same back at you, but come out and talk to us, said. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: all logic and reasons would become non existent at this point,
Speaker 1: and instead of leading the innocent man alone, officers decided
Speaker 1: to move in. One officer jumped on the hood of
Speaker 1: glasses car with a pistol and flashlight in his face
Speaker 1: as others drewe weapons and pointed him at him. Seconds later,
Speaker 1: as an officer breaks the window, multiple shots were fired
Speaker 1: and Glass was murdered, and that was the end of
Speaker 1: the story of Christian Glass. He died right there in
Speaker 1: that ditch, and the heroes took his life. Now go ahead.
Speaker 3: But you know what's really hard to reconcile. You know
Speaker 3: these instances where the body cam footage is missing, right,
Speaker 3: Like that's an officer saying to themselves, I'm about to
Speaker 3: do something messed up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm about.
Speaker 3: To get rid of this camera. I'm about to turn
Speaker 3: this camera off. And then it's just my word again.
Speaker 3: When something like this happens and the body camera footage
Speaker 3: is just readily available, that shows how much they get
Speaker 3: to operate with impunity. That it's not even like we
Speaker 3: don't even were not we just we feel like murdering today.
Speaker 3: That's what we on And who's going to do something
Speaker 3: to us for it? This is what we feel like
Speaker 3: doing today. Yes, when we get to the station, you
Speaker 3: can have this camera. Do with it what you know,
Speaker 3: as you may. I'll deal with whatever my punishment or
Speaker 3: whatever the consequences.
Speaker 2: Are in the morning or whatever, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like the arrogance isn't the right word. It's apathy.
Speaker 3: This complete.
Speaker 2: I'm going to just completely.
Speaker 3: Disregard this person's life because by the authority given to
Speaker 3: me by this badge.
Speaker 2: You are beneath me.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this, the authority by the badge.
Speaker 1: So watch this, and we had this conversation before on
Speaker 1: the show. We have to recognize that police are people
Speaker 1: and the institution of policing is flawed. Those are two
Speaker 1: things that we have to recognize. And we accept people
Speaker 1: as our brothers and sisters. If they are endowed with
Speaker 1: consciousness by our common creator, they are brothers and sisters.
Speaker 1: This is a fundamental principle of this show and certainly
Speaker 1: of my life, and I believe yours as well. The
Speaker 1: institution of policing is wrong in the way that it's executed.
Speaker 1: I'll make my point. There will inevitably be people that
Speaker 1: will defend even this story of this young white man
Speaker 1: right the police they were justified, and that they were
Speaker 1: afraid and they he didn't listen to them, and whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, you have to collect, protect the police, you know,
Speaker 1: stand by the You know, there are people that will
Speaker 1: do this right, but they will have to accept that
Speaker 1: he shouldn't have died. He admitted that he was scared.
Speaker 1: He called them for help. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like if you examine all the optics. Any reasonable person
Speaker 1: will say, yeah, that's unfortunate that he shouldn't have died.
Speaker 3: Right, It's so important for you to keep saying that
Speaker 3: part that he called them for help. They didn't just
Speaker 3: come across him and they because because there could be
Speaker 3: some confusion there. Right, if they just come across this
Speaker 3: truck in the ditch, this man might be crazy, this
Speaker 3: man might be angry.
Speaker 1: They don't know what they're going in.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't that either, So it's important that you
Speaker 3: keep highlighting that for sure.
Speaker 1: Sure, sure, so watch this those people that say, well,
Speaker 1: you know, the police have to protect themselves if they
Speaker 1: felt the threat, blah blah blah whatever. They are saying
Speaker 1: that Christian class did not have that, right a, that's
Speaker 1: de facto that by default they're protect him. Sure, the
Speaker 1: police do, and they are accepting that as collateral damage.
Speaker 1: Remember we had that conversation. They are saying that, well,
Speaker 1: this works for most folks, and you know, sometimes it
Speaker 1: doesn't work, but we're just going to deal with it,
Speaker 1: and we exist. The show exists because we fight against
Speaker 1: that narrative. There should be no such thing as collateral damage,
Speaker 1: not when you're dealing with human life. The FAA exists
Speaker 1: because no plane should fall out of the sky, right,
Speaker 1: That's why it exists. That should never ever happen, not
Speaker 1: one time, and if it does, it's a national tragedy.
Speaker 1: And yet these people that run to defend the institution
Speaker 1: of policing blindly, not the individual. The institution. Police need,
Speaker 1: you know, our broad sweeping support. There are heroes in
Speaker 1: our community. Whatever these narratives that get chronicled around the country,
Speaker 1: these people accept that, well, there's just going to be
Speaker 1: some margin of error when you're dealing with this, and
Speaker 1: that we feel on this show. I feel personally you
Speaker 1: can see me. I'll be in the street. I feel
Speaker 1: like that is unacceptable. And as long as they give
Speaker 1: me a mikerphone and a signal and a satellite dish,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep saying it. Yo, rest in peace, Christian Glass.
Speaker 1: I will say your name on this show. I gotta
Speaker 1: finish this, sorry, y'all. In statements the Clear count I
Speaker 1: have to say this part because journalists now or whatever.
Speaker 1: In statements, the Clear Creek County Sheriff's Department office said
Speaker 1: Glass became quote argumentative and uncooperative unquote and tried to
Speaker 1: stab an officer. I have to say that you got
Speaker 1: to say what's next. I'm gonna say that too, but
Speaker 1: you're you're welcome to watch this for yourself. But the
Speaker 1: video from the arrest shows that Glass, who made a
Speaker 1: heart with his hands toward officers and said he was terrified,
Speaker 1: never even got out of his vehicle.
Speaker 2: Is that once again they know that they turned in
Speaker 2: those cameras.
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, hold on the way
Speaker 1: that because you know, the cameras don't come out until
Speaker 1: way later. So the police report, the police report originally
Speaker 1: like you can look this up too. We don't have
Speaker 1: time to go into it. But Maggie, our producer, showed
Speaker 1: me everything at the beginning. The police report was written
Speaker 1: just like that, like he was argumentative and he you know,
Speaker 1: didn't didn't put the hard hands to stab us. So
Speaker 1: watch this while we're here. Why is it that he
Speaker 1: might get if you're listening to our show, you know,
Speaker 1: and you feel sad for this, and maybe you haven't
Speaker 1: felt sad or maybe you know when you hear some
Speaker 1: stories about black and brown people losing their life at
Speaker 1: the hands of the police, why is it that you
Speaker 1: can feel sad for this person because they were scared
Speaker 1: of the police and they were doing heart hands. But
Speaker 1: it's tough for you to reconcile. Well, why did a
Speaker 1: black guy run from the police if he didn't have
Speaker 1: anything to hide. Why does your mind not go to well,
Speaker 1: maybe he was scared. If anybody got a reason to
Speaker 1: be scared of the police. Do I need to finish
Speaker 1: the sentence? All right, let's move on. I'm not mad,
Speaker 1: just making some points. I want you to think, very man,
Speaker 1: I've learned to crush these problems with my mind. Vice
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I have to keep my
Speaker 1: spirit intact. I have to remain positive and optimistic because
Speaker 1: we are going somewhere together and we, for better or worse,
Speaker 1: whether we like it or not, are leading.
Speaker 2: I am not as refined and polished a human being.
Speaker 1: And that's okay, man. You got to keep it real.
Speaker 2: Brother and co host, you got to keep it real, man.
Speaker 1: We need both.
Speaker 2: I am not okay, but listen, very.
Speaker 1: Angry, but listen. My point was that we have to lead.
Speaker 1: That's what we're doing. We're leading, and if we can
Speaker 1: as often as we can, as often as we have
Speaker 1: the capacity to do. So my hope is that you
Speaker 1: and I both always lead with love. So if you're
Speaker 1: listening to this despite the frustration and or, I want
Speaker 1: you to know that we do love you, and we
Speaker 1: love you too. Christian class, we will say your name
Speaker 1: because it matters your life, matter did and you did
Speaker 1: not deserve that death.
Speaker 2: Am I seeing correctly that we have another one?
Speaker 1: Ye, there's another one. We actually have three. I don't
Speaker 1: only have time to get to to two of them today.
Speaker 3: But this one's watched this one too, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: This is the one that made it to TMZ. So
Speaker 1: maybe you watch this one too if you're listening. So
Speaker 1: this one, our story rather comes from NPR. The name
Speaker 1: is Eric ken Too. So Eric is I believe he's
Speaker 1: still fighting for his life life support. Yeah, so we're
Speaker 1: going to say his name because you know, we need
Speaker 1: to say his name. It is not Eric No, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: Eric Ken Too is the person who was shot. Yeah
Speaker 1: that's right, that's right. So a now ex police officer
Speaker 1: is charged after shooting a teenager eating in a parking lot.
Speaker 1: So if you've seen this video, the way it goes
Speaker 1: as an officer, the video part of it, an officer
Speaker 1: goes up to a car, opens the door, tells a
Speaker 1: kid to get out of the car, kids eating the guy,
Speaker 1: and the kids like huh what and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden the officers just start shooting him, and the
Speaker 1: kids like, oh my god, and he like drives off
Speaker 1: attempts Yeah, and again. The way the story got written
Speaker 1: up was like, it's crazy how the police can misrepresent
Speaker 1: the truth and.
Speaker 2: Why would they ever do such a thing.
Speaker 1: It happens all the time. In fact, you should listen
Speaker 1: to the bi n daily podcast show that I do
Speaker 1: because I talk about this very thing. I have a
Speaker 1: recent installment it's called One More Thing that Maggie helped
Speaker 1: me produce. By the way, so shout out to Maggie.
Speaker 1: Me normal again. And we were talking about coppaganda, which
Speaker 1: is why we tend to think of police as being
Speaker 1: the good guys all the time, which in theory they
Speaker 1: should be, but why we never can. It's hard for
Speaker 1: us to see them as being the bad guys because
Speaker 1: we've watched so many films and so forth, and the
Speaker 1: police have had their hand in every film to control
Speaker 1: the narrative how they're portrayed. Since drag Met I'll do it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I'll be going on my tam, but you gotta know,
Speaker 1: all right. And now former San Antonio police officer was
Speaker 1: charged Tuesday with two counts of aggravated assault by a
Speaker 1: peace officer for shooting and gravely wounding a teen eating
Speaker 1: a hamburger in his car in a McDonald's parking lot.
Speaker 1: The teen had begun driving away when the officer opened fire.
Speaker 1: Cantu is still unconscious and on life support, his family
Speaker 1: said Tuesday. There is no improvement in his condition. The
Speaker 1: family said in a statement. Branand, a rookie officer, reported
Speaker 1: the vehicle COUNTO was sitting in, had evaded him the
Speaker 1: night before during an attempted traffic stop. Brenand said he
Speaker 1: suspected the vehicle was stolen. In body camera footage released
Speaker 1: by police, Breanand opens the car door and tells Count
Speaker 1: two to get out. The car drives backwards with the
Speaker 1: door open, and the officer fires multiple times into the vehicle.
Speaker 1: He continues to shoot as the car drives away. Investigators
Speaker 1: quickly determined that the use of deadly force was unwarranted,
Speaker 1: and Bernand was fired. Charges against Cantu have aggravated assault
Speaker 1: and evating arrest were dropped.
Speaker 4: So they just made up some trumped up charges to
Speaker 4: throw on mister Eric Kanto to justify almost killing him, Yeah,
Speaker 4: for simply sitting in his car and eating food.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. I say this all the time
Speaker 1: because it's such a good idea. Insurance from police officers
Speaker 1: just like doctors. Okay, that way, if an officer messes up,
Speaker 1: they're unensurable. They can't keep working because this guy they
Speaker 1: fired him. Go get a job somewhere else. This is
Speaker 1: what happens all the time.
Speaker 2: We notice.
Speaker 1: Keep them guns in the trunk. Okay, nine percent of
Speaker 1: the time you're not shooting a gun, and when you
Speaker 1: might need to shoot a gun, that's when you take
Speaker 1: it out.
Speaker 3: But if you have it at the ready, and you
Speaker 3: should have to think, I gotta go.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm trying to say. And this is what
Speaker 1: they do in a lot of countries around the world
Speaker 1: where a gun ownership is legal right, they have the
Speaker 1: right to bear arms. Just to say, and you know,
Speaker 1: there's a hundred other things for anybody that wants to
Speaker 1: look a layer or two deeper. But the fact is
Speaker 1: is that there's a well established narrative about police being
Speaker 1: the good guys, and we're telling two stories because you know,
Speaker 1: police shooting another black guy is week to week.
Speaker 2: Around here in five hundred stories.
Speaker 1: But you know, this past couple of weeks, we had
Speaker 1: some of our brothers and sisters from the Caucasian tribe
Speaker 1: that have been had some really tough police interactions, and
Speaker 1: we're hoping that Eric Canto makes it through because he
Speaker 1: didn't deserve to die. He was just as surprised as
Speaker 1: we were seeing the video. But you know, this is
Speaker 1: the world that we live in, and you know, we
Speaker 1: have to share these stories and no matter how tough
Speaker 1: they are, we got to keep moving forward.
Speaker 2: So step