WEBVTT - Civic Cipher 101522 When Police Shoot and Kill Innocent White People (Part 1) 0:00:00.440 --> 0:00:03.120 Welcome to another episode of Civic CZICHERI I'm your host, 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:04.000 Ramsey's job. 0:00:04.120 --> 0:00:07.840 He is your host, rams this job, I am h Ward. 0:00:08.280 --> 0:00:11.440 You aren't listening to cide Ciphers. Let's go a lot 0:00:11.520 --> 0:00:14.920 to stick around for this show. You know, most of 0:00:14.960 --> 0:00:18.959 the time we deal with issues that have to do 0:00:19.160 --> 0:00:22.320 with you know, black and brown people, black and brown communities, 0:00:23.160 --> 0:00:25.880 you know, and you know other marginalized groups in this country. 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:29.560 But you know, there's been a couple of stories in 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:37.080 the news lately that come from our brothers and sisters, 0:00:37.360 --> 0:00:43.199 our Caucasian brothers and sisters. Is tribe right, and you know, 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:48.560 we are able to deduce that by telling these stories, 0:00:48.560 --> 0:00:52.960 we can a bring some light to these tragedies. You know, 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:57.040 those are our family too, as we reckon. But also 0:00:57.120 --> 0:01:00.520 we can further illuminate some of the system issues that 0:01:00.560 --> 0:01:02.320 we're talking about. A lot of folks can't hear it. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.760 They feel like these are black issues, and you know, 0:01:04.920 --> 0:01:07.080 large they largely are, but that's not to say that 0:01:07.160 --> 0:01:08.800 they don't affect other community. So we're going to be 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:15.200 sharing some really interesting stories of police misconduct and really 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:21.320 that's it, police misconduct, and because the victims are not black, 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:26.960 they're white. You can see better see rather the systemic issues. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:30.360 If you're not able to just see black people as 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:33.600 the way in the way that black people see black people, right, 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:35.640 and I get it. The world has taught you to 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:36.920 be this way. We're not mad at you. 0:01:37.000 --> 0:01:40.160 We're just going to share some other story. Hey man, 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.760 we got what he meant to say. 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:44.840 We also got a lot more to stick around for 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.680 as well. We're going to talk about one police department 0:01:48.720 --> 0:01:52.640 in particular that's been having a tough time and that 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:55.600 kind of shows kind of some more of these systemic issues. 0:01:55.640 --> 0:01:57.120 And then, of course our way black history fact, we're 0:01:57.120 --> 0:01:59.440 going to talk about a black couple who help build 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:04.280 green Wood Wood in Tulsa, Oklahoma. So first and foremost, 0:02:06.160 --> 0:02:10.040 let's get into some ebony excellence. How does that sound cute? 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:11.320 Sounds great to me. 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.480 Let's do it. Let's do it all right. Today's Abny 0:02:13.480 --> 0:02:16.360 Excellence is sponsored by Major Threads, where high fashion meets 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.320 timeless mens, where you can find out more at major 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:22.560 threads dot com. Story comes by a Huffington Post. All right, 0:02:22.639 --> 0:02:25.359 let's give this later for flowers. Katanji Brown Jackson gives 0:02:25.400 --> 0:02:29.440 the Supreme Court a history lesson giving a forceful performance 0:02:29.440 --> 0:02:31.640 in defense of the race conscious history of the Fourteenth 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:34.600 Amendment and the Voting Rights Act noted by Harvard Law 0:02:34.680 --> 0:02:36.919 as policy that could even lead to the biggest decline 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.239 in Black and Latino representation and generations. In the case 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:43.440 of Merrill versus Milligan, Alabama is asking the court to 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:48.080 overturn decades of precedent allowing a limited consideration of race 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:52.400 to enable racial minorities to obtain equal political representation in redistricting. 0:02:52.600 --> 0:02:54.480 If you haven't heard about this, please look it up. 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:59.120 This is a crazy thing that's going on roundbreaking. A 0:02:59.240 --> 0:03:03.280 transformation of the Voting Rights Act into a race neutral law, 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.240 as Alabama is seeking, would roll back that community's progress 0:03:06.280 --> 0:03:10.480 toward equality. According to Jackson, the Fourteenth Amendment was adopted 0:03:10.560 --> 0:03:13.640 during this time to quote ensure that people who had 0:03:13.680 --> 0:03:17.600 been discriminated against the freedmen during the reconstruction period were 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:21.280 actually brought equal to everyone else in society, and that 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.760 the entire point of the amendment was to secure rights 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:28.720 of freed former slaves. She quoted an eighteen sixty six 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:34.440 speech by Republican representative of Pennsylvania indicating that the purpose 0:03:34.480 --> 0:03:36.920 of the Fourteenth Amendment was to halt the ongoing deprivation 0:03:37.040 --> 0:03:39.560 of rights and equality from black men and women across 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:46.040 the former Confederate States. So, in short, Alabama is tripping, tripping, 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:52.920 and Katanji Brown Jackson is a shining example of ebony excellence, 0:03:53.760 --> 0:03:56.360 given that she has a platform and she is using 0:03:56.400 --> 0:04:00.000 it to bring attention to this matter and let these 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.680 people know that if they vote wrong, that they are tripping. 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:05.840 To Sometimes when people want to take a trip, you 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:06.760 got to give him a map. 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.000 Listen, man, she's doing just that. So all right, so 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:21.320 all right, we're going to move into some heavier things. Yeah, 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.800 so you know I'm gonna get right into it. There's 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:29.320 there's no two ways about this. So we have seen 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:33.680 some videos. We hope that you haven't, but it's likely 0:04:33.720 --> 0:04:37.240 that you have if you're into this type of stuff 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:40.000 social justice, you know, watching the police making sure everybody 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:43.560 gets a fair chance and fair shake at life and 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:49.240 at different levels in society. One of the videos that 0:04:49.279 --> 0:04:55.919 we saw was a young man. He was in his 0:04:56.080 --> 0:04:59.719 vehicle and he I believe he went into a ditch. 0:05:00.440 --> 0:05:02.240 He was in a group as a truck, pickup truck 0:05:02.279 --> 0:05:06.359 something like that, and he called for help. He was 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:09.080 having a bad day, and he made sure to explain 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:10.919 to the dispatcher. I'm gonna get into this, but just 0:05:10.920 --> 0:05:15.960 so you are able to follow the story, calls the 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:20.520 nine to one one dispatcher, asks for help, He explains 0:05:20.560 --> 0:05:24.000 his situation. Make sure everyone knows I'm not dangerous, you know, 0:05:24.160 --> 0:05:27.920 whatever he's says that he's if I remember correctly, says 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.280 that he's having like a tough time mentally something like that, 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.240 alludes to it or something like that. And the police 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:38.600 show up and talked to him for a while, and 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:42.200 then when they were tired of talking to him, they 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:45.080 shot him. This young man was white, as I mentioned, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.680 And you know, we tell these black stories over and 0:05:47.680 --> 0:05:53.680 over again, but you know, maybe maybe you might hear 0:05:53.720 --> 0:05:55.400 a little different when it happens to a white person. 0:05:56.520 --> 0:06:00.200 Maybe their humanity is a little bit more intact. And again, 0:06:00.240 --> 0:06:02.480 I'm not mad at you for that. The world has 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:03.880 taught you to be that way. Go ahead, you can 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.040 say I'm definitely mad, okay, but I'm not. I understand 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.160 that you were brought up in a society that taught 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.360 you to hate better than it taught you to love. 0:06:11.440 --> 0:06:15.040 I recognize that. Now. Q's mad because you're probably an 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:16.760 adult listening to this show, and you should know. 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:18.080 Better about you making a decision. 0:06:18.320 --> 0:06:25.920 But I'll continue. So today's this first story rather comes 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:32.919 from NBC News the murder of Christian Glass and our 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:35.159 producer Magaby Know and she wanted me to ask the question, 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:41.280 why send an armed military the word in quotes, because 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:43.680 this is kind of the way that police behave. This 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.000 isn't like the Andy Griffith Show or anything like that. 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:48.440 I mean, it's not just about behavior, but the way 0:06:48.480 --> 0:06:50.919 that they're equipped, the way that you're trained, the weapons 0:06:50.920 --> 0:06:53.440 that they carry, the tactical gear that they wear. 0:06:54.120 --> 0:06:55.920 In the mindset as well, it's like a war. They 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:56.600 have a won their. 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.200 Community military uniform. It's just blue and black. 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:03.440 There you go. And so I think that was Maggie's point, 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.920 Why send an our military that can't wait to shoot 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.400 to help with a mental health issue? What was very 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:13.880 obviously a mental health issue. So I'll read I'm going 0:07:13.960 --> 0:07:20.200 to get into Christian glasses statement to the officers. This 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.680 is him talking. I have two knives, a hammer, and 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:25.960 a rubber mallet. This is just what he had in 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.440 his truck. You know, people are allowed to have things 0:07:28.520 --> 0:07:36.040 in their truck black people too, okay, And knives are 0:07:36.040 --> 0:07:38.920 not necessarily weapons. Some people hunt some people, you know, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:40.840 you know, if it's in a truck too, you know. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:43.120 But remind the audience was Christian Glass. 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:45.320 He was not black. He was white. He was a white, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:50.120 young white man. Anyway, he says to the officers, I 0:07:50.160 --> 0:07:52.720 have two knives, a hammer, and a rubber mallet. But 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.880 I am not dangerous. I will keep my hands completely visible, 0:07:57.280 --> 0:08:00.840 he told the dispatcher, offering to throw them out once 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:04.840 officers arrived. Right, so he needs help. Do you have 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:06.720 any weapons in the car? Yes, I do have this, 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:09.000 this and this I will throw I'm not I'm no 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.080 threat to anybody. I will throw them out of the car. Right, 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:18.640 so he called for help. He's dead, now call for help, okay, 0:08:20.760 --> 0:08:24.000 all right, And the story goes on. But officers wouldn't 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:25.480 let him throw them out. 0:08:26.400 --> 0:08:29.720 Just so we're clear, these officers are present because he 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:30.440 called for help. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:37.400 Correct. We've we've shared this story too. I remember, I mean, 0:08:37.440 --> 0:08:39.040 you got to swap a couple of pieces around. But 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.400 I remember a story where we shared this story where 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.240 a black man was I think he was killed in 0:08:44.280 --> 0:08:47.480 his living room or his driveway or something like that. 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.240 It was a similar thing. He called the police that 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.840 came in and killed him. So if that didn't hit, 0:08:52.920 --> 0:08:53.600 maybe this wondoes. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:54.680 Here we go. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:09:00.240 The officers would not let him throw the things out, 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:02.959 telling him to keep the weapons inside the car, as 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:08.440 they escalated the situation of deadly violence. Please push me out, 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:10.959 drag me out. I'll follow you to a police station. 0:09:11.080 --> 0:09:13.440 Glass told the officers, I'm so scared, I'm gonna stop 0:09:13.480 --> 0:09:16.319 right here. So he's still in his car. He's wanting 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:18.320 the officers to push him out of the ditch or 0:09:18.360 --> 0:09:20.400 like the tie a thing, to drag him out. He 0:09:20.440 --> 0:09:22.720 will go with them to the police station. He's afraid. 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.320 It's a nighttime too. By the way, if you haven't 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:28.000 seen the video, we saw the video because there's body 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:28.880 cam footage. 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:34.360 This is one. This is one of those videos. Yeah, 0:09:34.400 --> 0:09:36.520 if you are a human being, we say this like, 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:39.280 this is one of those videos that kicks you in 0:09:39.320 --> 0:09:43.760 the stomach. Yeah, it's very very stay. It is not subtle, right, 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:46.080 and you're gonna get to it as you read some 0:09:46.160 --> 0:09:48.160 more of the statements, some more of the story, but 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:50.440 there is a moment where it seems like, oh, this 0:09:50.559 --> 0:09:54.640 might go how it should yeah, and then all of 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.840 a sudden it does not. It does not, and it 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:01.640 is like a kick in the stomach. Yeah, yeah, because 0:10:01.880 --> 0:10:07.280 there was, there is absolutely there are sometimes where the 0:10:07.400 --> 0:10:11.880 circumstance create an outcome that that shouldn't have happened. Right, 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.960 that still shouldn't happened. Even given the circumstances. It still 0:10:14.960 --> 0:10:17.400 shouldn't have happened. But it colors it in a way 0:10:17.440 --> 0:10:20.959 where maybe you can give it to someone that they 0:10:20.960 --> 0:10:23.680 were afraid and they just made a bad judgment call. 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:29.000 This is not one of those situations, and that's I 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:31.720 don't think that's just cute talking. You're welcome to watch 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:34.320 the video yourself. Again, his name is Christian Glass. We 0:10:34.360 --> 0:10:37.920 don't recommend that you. We don't celebrate death, we don't 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:42.640 celebrate violence against you know, black bodies. We don't celebrate 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:46.679 violence against white bodies either. Again, this is our brother 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:52.160 that is now gone because of this institution that really 0:10:52.200 --> 0:10:55.559 needs to be fixed, and it's our job to explain 0:10:55.600 --> 0:11:00.280 this and discuss it so that we can move forward. Okay, 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:02.280 so yeah, I'll follow you to a police station. Glass 0:11:02.280 --> 0:11:06.800 told the officers, I'm so scared, you need to step 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:09.000 out of the car. Now step out of the car. 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:12.000 An officer said, that's a lawful order. Step out of 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:14.559 the car now, or you'll be removed from the vehicle. 0:11:15.320 --> 0:11:19.560 Glass responded, I'm so scared. You're not communicating clearly with me. 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:22.520 I don't understand why I have to come out. For 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.800 a brief second, the responding officers had a moment of clarity, 0:11:25.800 --> 0:11:28.640 this is what you were talking about, you, and decided 0:11:28.679 --> 0:11:32.120 to call over a female officer with a much calmer demeanor. 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.840 As she walked over to the car, Glass put his hands, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:42.360 oh God, into a heart sign and blue kisses at her, 0:11:42.600 --> 0:11:48.600 illustrating just how big of a threat he was. And 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:53.160 I forgot about that part. I completely forgot about that car. 0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:02.600 Same back at you, but come out and talk to us, said. Unfortunately, 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:04.880 all logic and reasons would become non existent at this point, 0:12:04.920 --> 0:12:07.360 and instead of leading the innocent man alone, officers decided 0:12:07.400 --> 0:12:09.800 to move in. One officer jumped on the hood of 0:12:09.800 --> 0:12:12.439 glasses car with a pistol and flashlight in his face 0:12:12.480 --> 0:12:15.440 as others drewe weapons and pointed him at him. Seconds later, 0:12:15.480 --> 0:12:17.960 as an officer breaks the window, multiple shots were fired 0:12:18.200 --> 0:12:24.360 and Glass was murdered, and that was the end of 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:29.680 the story of Christian Glass. He died right there in 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:40.280 that ditch, and the heroes took his life. Now go ahead. 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:44.880 But you know what's really hard to reconcile. You know 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:50.360 these instances where the body cam footage is missing, right, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.040 Like that's an officer saying to themselves, I'm about to 0:12:54.080 --> 0:12:55.000 do something messed up. 0:12:55.200 --> 0:12:56.480 Yeah, I'm about. 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:57.760 To get rid of this camera. I'm about to turn 0:12:57.800 --> 0:13:00.000 this camera off. And then it's just my word again. 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:06.680 When something like this happens and the body camera footage 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:11.200 is just readily available, that shows how much they get 0:13:11.200 --> 0:13:13.560 to operate with impunity. That it's not even like we 0:13:13.600 --> 0:13:17.240 don't even were not we just we feel like murdering today. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:21.040 That's what we on And who's going to do something 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:22.880 to us for it? This is what we feel like 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:25.400 doing today. Yes, when we get to the station, you 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:28.080 can have this camera. Do with it what you know, 0:13:28.200 --> 0:13:32.040 as you may. I'll deal with whatever my punishment or 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.120 whatever the consequences. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:35.959 Are in the morning or whatever, you know what I mean. 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:40.720 It's like the arrogance isn't the right word. It's apathy. 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:43.679 This complete. 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:47.360 I'm going to just completely. 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:52.080 Disregard this person's life because by the authority given to 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:53.160 me by this badge. 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.080 You are beneath me. 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.920 I want to talk about this, the authority by the badge. 0:13:57.960 --> 0:14:00.840 So watch this, and we had this conversation before on 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.800 the show. We have to recognize that police are people 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:08.760 and the institution of policing is flawed. Those are two 0:14:08.800 --> 0:14:12.160 things that we have to recognize. And we accept people 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:14.280 as our brothers and sisters. If they are endowed with 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.800 consciousness by our common creator, they are brothers and sisters. 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.840 This is a fundamental principle of this show and certainly 0:14:19.880 --> 0:14:24.280 of my life, and I believe yours as well. The 0:14:24.280 --> 0:14:28.400 institution of policing is wrong in the way that it's executed. 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:35.600 I'll make my point. There will inevitably be people that 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:39.440 will defend even this story of this young white man 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.680 right the police they were justified, and that they were 0:14:43.720 --> 0:14:46.480 afraid and they he didn't listen to them, and whatever, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.680 you know, you have to collect, protect the police, you know, 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:51.960 stand by the You know, there are people that will 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:59.800 do this right, but they will have to accept that 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:03.680 he shouldn't have died. He admitted that he was scared. 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:06.040 He called them for help. You know what I mean, 0:15:06.080 --> 0:15:08.520 Like if you examine all the optics. Any reasonable person 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:10.680 will say, yeah, that's unfortunate that he shouldn't have died. 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.640 Right, It's so important for you to keep saying that 0:15:12.680 --> 0:15:14.800 part that he called them for help. They didn't just 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:18.080 come across him and they because because there could be 0:15:18.120 --> 0:15:20.400 some confusion there. Right, if they just come across this 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:23.120 truck in the ditch, this man might be crazy, this 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:24.000 man might be angry. 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:24.960 They don't know what they're going in. 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:26.480 I don't know what's going on. 0:15:26.680 --> 0:15:29.080 No, it wasn't that either, So it's important that you 0:15:29.200 --> 0:15:30.560 keep highlighting that for sure. 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:35.960 Sure, sure, so watch this those people that say, well, 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.320 you know, the police have to protect themselves if they 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.320 felt the threat, blah blah blah whatever. They are saying 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:46.880 that Christian class did not have that, right a, that's 0:15:47.320 --> 0:15:50.840 de facto that by default they're protect him. Sure, the 0:15:50.840 --> 0:15:55.840 police do, and they are accepting that as collateral damage. 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:59.280 Remember we had that conversation. They are saying that, well, 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:03.840 this works for most folks, and you know, sometimes it 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:05.520 doesn't work, but we're just going to deal with it, 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:10.440 and we exist. The show exists because we fight against 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.560 that narrative. There should be no such thing as collateral damage, 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:17.000 not when you're dealing with human life. The FAA exists 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:20.200 because no plane should fall out of the sky, right, 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:23.800 That's why it exists. That should never ever happen, not 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.280 one time, and if it does, it's a national tragedy. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:31.400 And yet these people that run to defend the institution 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:36.640 of policing blindly, not the individual. The institution. Police need, 0:16:36.760 --> 0:16:39.320 you know, our broad sweeping support. There are heroes in 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.600 our community. Whatever these narratives that get chronicled around the country, 0:16:44.400 --> 0:16:48.760 these people accept that, well, there's just going to be 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.000 some margin of error when you're dealing with this, and 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.520 that we feel on this show. I feel personally you 0:16:54.560 --> 0:16:57.840 can see me. I'll be in the street. I feel 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.680 like that is unacceptable. And as long as they give 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:02.560 me a mikerphone and a signal and a satellite dish, 0:17:02.640 --> 0:17:06.640 I'm gonna keep saying it. Yo, rest in peace, Christian Glass. 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:11.680 I will say your name on this show. I gotta 0:17:11.680 --> 0:17:15.439 finish this, sorry, y'all. In statements the Clear count I 0:17:15.480 --> 0:17:18.160 have to say this part because journalists now or whatever. 0:17:18.760 --> 0:17:22.800 In statements, the Clear Creek County Sheriff's Department office said 0:17:22.840 --> 0:17:30.240 Glass became quote argumentative and uncooperative unquote and tried to 0:17:30.320 --> 0:17:34.680 stab an officer. I have to say that you got 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:38.600 to say what's next. I'm gonna say that too, but 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.280 you're you're welcome to watch this for yourself. But the 0:17:42.400 --> 0:17:45.399 video from the arrest shows that Glass, who made a 0:17:45.480 --> 0:17:48.080 heart with his hands toward officers and said he was terrified, 0:17:48.160 --> 0:17:49.719 never even got out of his vehicle. 0:17:50.760 --> 0:17:54.159 Is that once again they know that they turned in 0:17:54.200 --> 0:17:54.760 those cameras. 0:17:54.800 --> 0:17:57.080 Wait a minute, Wait a minute, hold on the way 0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.480 that because you know, the cameras don't come out until 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:04.159 way later. So the police report, the police report originally 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:05.800 like you can look this up too. We don't have 0:18:05.800 --> 0:18:08.120 time to go into it. But Maggie, our producer, showed 0:18:08.119 --> 0:18:10.959 me everything at the beginning. The police report was written 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.399 just like that, like he was argumentative and he you know, 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:17.520 didn't didn't put the hard hands to stab us. So 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:22.040 watch this while we're here. Why is it that he 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.480 might get if you're listening to our show, you know, 0:18:26.520 --> 0:18:28.680 and you feel sad for this, and maybe you haven't 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:30.919 felt sad or maybe you know when you hear some 0:18:31.080 --> 0:18:33.359 stories about black and brown people losing their life at 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:34.439 the hands of the police, why is it that you 0:18:34.440 --> 0:18:38.160 can feel sad for this person because they were scared 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:40.000 of the police and they were doing heart hands. But 0:18:40.080 --> 0:18:44.280 it's tough for you to reconcile. Well, why did a 0:18:44.320 --> 0:18:46.000 black guy run from the police if he didn't have 0:18:46.040 --> 0:18:48.760 anything to hide. Why does your mind not go to well, 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.800 maybe he was scared. If anybody got a reason to 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.080 be scared of the police. Do I need to finish 0:18:53.119 --> 0:18:56.879 the sentence? All right, let's move on. I'm not mad, 0:18:57.359 --> 0:19:00.439 just making some points. I want you to think, very man, 0:19:01.000 --> 0:19:05.000 I've learned to crush these problems with my mind. Vice 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.000 you know what I mean. I have to keep my 0:19:07.080 --> 0:19:10.040 spirit intact. I have to remain positive and optimistic because 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:13.800 we are going somewhere together and we, for better or worse, 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:16.320 whether we like it or not, are leading. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:20.480 I am not as refined and polished a human being. 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.640 And that's okay, man. You got to keep it real. 0:19:22.760 --> 0:19:25.480 Brother and co host, you got to keep it real, man. 0:19:25.480 --> 0:19:26.080 We need both. 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:29.160 I am not okay, but listen, very. 0:19:29.000 --> 0:19:31.960 Angry, but listen. My point was that we have to lead. 0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:34.120 That's what we're doing. We're leading, and if we can 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.040 as often as we can, as often as we have 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:38.439 the capacity to do. So my hope is that you 0:19:38.480 --> 0:19:40.800 and I both always lead with love. So if you're 0:19:40.800 --> 0:19:43.119 listening to this despite the frustration and or, I want 0:19:43.160 --> 0:19:44.760 you to know that we do love you, and we 0:19:44.840 --> 0:19:47.880 love you too. Christian class, we will say your name 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:52.600 because it matters your life, matter did and you did 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:53.560 not deserve that death. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.480 Am I seeing correctly that we have another one? 0:19:57.560 --> 0:19:59.400 Ye, there's another one. We actually have three. I don't 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:01.000 only have time to get to to two of them today. 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:08.080 But this one's watched this one too, Yeah, yeah. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:08.280 This is the one that made it to TMZ. So 0:20:08.320 --> 0:20:11.639 maybe you watch this one too if you're listening. So 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:15.359 this one, our story rather comes from NPR. The name 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:20.800 is Eric ken Too. So Eric is I believe he's 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:28.760 still fighting for his life life support. Yeah, so we're 0:20:28.760 --> 0:20:31.640 going to say his name because you know, we need 0:20:31.680 --> 0:20:36.720 to say his name. It is not Eric No, no, no, no, 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:41.680 Eric Ken Too is the person who was shot. Yeah 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:46.240 that's right, that's right. So a now ex police officer 0:20:47.119 --> 0:20:50.800 is charged after shooting a teenager eating in a parking lot. 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:53.920 So if you've seen this video, the way it goes 0:20:54.000 --> 0:20:57.679 as an officer, the video part of it, an officer 0:20:57.720 --> 0:21:01.679 goes up to a car, opens the door, tells a 0:21:01.800 --> 0:21:05.560 kid to get out of the car, kids eating the guy, 0:21:05.600 --> 0:21:08.240 and the kids like huh what and then all of 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.800 a sudden the officers just start shooting him, and the 0:21:10.880 --> 0:21:13.399 kids like, oh my god, and he like drives off 0:21:14.800 --> 0:21:18.679 attempts Yeah, and again. The way the story got written 0:21:18.760 --> 0:21:22.160 up was like, it's crazy how the police can misrepresent 0:21:22.200 --> 0:21:24.560 the truth and. 0:21:23.640 --> 0:21:25.000 Why would they ever do such a thing. 0:21:25.200 --> 0:21:29.200 It happens all the time. In fact, you should listen 0:21:29.240 --> 0:21:31.679 to the bi n daily podcast show that I do 0:21:31.760 --> 0:21:33.879 because I talk about this very thing. I have a 0:21:33.920 --> 0:21:37.640 recent installment it's called One More Thing that Maggie helped 0:21:37.640 --> 0:21:39.480 me produce. By the way, so shout out to Maggie. 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:44.040 Me normal again. And we were talking about coppaganda, which 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.960 is why we tend to think of police as being 0:21:47.000 --> 0:21:49.080 the good guys all the time, which in theory they 0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.480 should be, but why we never can. It's hard for 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:53.240 us to see them as being the bad guys because 0:21:53.560 --> 0:21:55.480 we've watched so many films and so forth, and the 0:21:55.480 --> 0:22:00.000 police have had their hand in every film to control 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:05.600 the narrative how they're portrayed. Since drag Met I'll do it. Sorry, 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:07.240 I'll be going on my tam, but you gotta know, 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:13.359 all right. And now former San Antonio police officer was 0:22:13.440 --> 0:22:16.639 charged Tuesday with two counts of aggravated assault by a 0:22:16.680 --> 0:22:20.119 peace officer for shooting and gravely wounding a teen eating 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:22.520 a hamburger in his car in a McDonald's parking lot. 0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:26.159 The teen had begun driving away when the officer opened fire. 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:30.000 Cantu is still unconscious and on life support, his family 0:22:30.000 --> 0:22:33.520 said Tuesday. There is no improvement in his condition. The 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:40.600 family said in a statement. Branand, a rookie officer, reported 0:22:40.680 --> 0:22:43.480 the vehicle COUNTO was sitting in, had evaded him the 0:22:43.560 --> 0:22:47.359 night before during an attempted traffic stop. Brenand said he 0:22:47.480 --> 0:22:51.560