1 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: and Ken Show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. So 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: over the weekend you had two stories you may have 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: gotten confusing because they both happened in Texas. They both 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: involved mass killings. The big difference was one Mauricio Garcia, 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 1: he killed eight people and wounded seven others with an 7 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 1: AR fifteen assault rifle at a shopping mall. And the 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: other guy used a range rover and drove over eight 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: people and injured nine others. So in both cases you 10 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:45,960 Speaker 1: had eight people who were killed. Now we're going to 11 00:00:46,040 --> 00:00:52,159 Speaker 1: talk first with Alex Stone about the outlet mall shooting 12 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: in Allen, Texas. Alex, how are you? Hey? They're John 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: doing well? And then we are learning quite a bit 14 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 1: more today and we know among the dead they're killed 15 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: by the gunman two sisters in the second and fourth grades, 16 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: Daniella and Sophia Mendoza. They're school putting out a note 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: to teachers today saying that they were rays of sunshine. 18 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: Twenty year old Christian Liqueur. He was killed as well. 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: Others are still being identified and police are trying to 20 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: figure out you know, it's we could run it on 21 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: a loop. Anytime we do one of these, understand the 22 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: why and the how and the background of this thirty 23 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: three year old guy getting out of his car in 24 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: the parking lot with an ar style rifle, shooting into 25 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: kind of a little not a courtyard necessarily, but where 26 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: the building goes in a little bit, and there's a 27 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: tree right in the middle, so people are kind of 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: cornered into it outside on the outer wall of the 29 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: mall along the sidewalk, so they really couldn't run anywhere. 30 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: They were kind of stuck into that little inlet. As 31 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: he was shooting in to the area, Joshua barr And 32 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: well as a military vet who was unseene and jumped 33 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: into hell back. 34 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 2: I approached the woman who was conscious. She said, please 35 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: work on my daughter. This woman had massive trauma, five 36 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 2: to six gunshot wounds. I went to her daughter. I 37 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,840 Speaker 2: immediately started chest compressions. 38 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: I knew she was gone. We know what, John the 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,839 Speaker 1: shooter had been discharged from the army. Looks like maybe 40 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: during basic training. We don't know if he actually became 41 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: part of the army, but for mental health reasons years ago, 42 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:34,239 Speaker 1: had begun the process of going into the army. The 43 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,120 Speaker 1: youngest victim five years old. Witnesses say they had to 44 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 1: cut the shopping bags off of the victims to get 45 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: to their injuries. Jeannie Ruble, she was at them all 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: as well. 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 3: I'm never gonna unsee the little face of the of 48 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: the daughter that passed away, or the little boy that 49 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 3: survived and was covered in his parents' blood. 50 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: I've never been on see that in my mind. So 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 1: police today they're looking through the shooters social media postings. 52 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: There is racial and ethnic violent extremist rhetoric in that 53 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: he didn't have any followers. It appears he was posting 54 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: all this to nobody. Essentially, he was wearing a patch 55 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: that is often associated with extremist groups. So they're trying 56 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: to figure out was he tied to anybody, Was this 57 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: some fantasy he was living, Did it not mean anything? 58 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,119 Speaker 1: They don't know. He had a ballistic vest on, numerous magazines, 59 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:26,679 Speaker 1: additional handguns on top of the var and it was 60 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: an officer at the mall who was on another call, 61 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: allan PD who before the call ever came in heard 62 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: the gunfire, went running toward it, took out the shooter 63 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: in that moment and it ended very quickly. There is 64 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: radio traffic of him yelling that he's got an active 65 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:45,240 Speaker 1: shooter and the shooter is down. He went running and 66 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: did what we want police to do in this world 67 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: and ended that threat. It's cliche to say it could 68 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: have been a lot worse, but my goodness that he 69 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: just happened to be there on another call. Had he 70 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: not been there, this guy would add a lot more 71 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: time to walk around that mall and shoot. He took 72 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: him down very very quickly, and even in that time span, 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: so many people were hit, and one more for you. 74 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: This man ran into help out. 75 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 3: There was a four year old kid that managed to 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: call off from under his somebody that was shot there 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 3: and I managed to scoop him up and he was 78 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 3: not injured that I know of. I put him in 79 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: a safe place. The first police car that came up 80 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 3: from Alan PD, who are absolute heroes. I put him 81 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: in that police car and said take him to the hospital. 82 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: He too was in the military. Being Texas, there were 83 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: a lot of ex military who happened to be shopping 84 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: at the mall and they ran in to help out. Also, 85 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,039 Speaker 1: a lot we've been hearing people who took the stop 86 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: the bleed classes. I know are offered in a lot 87 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: of areas around La I know Henry Mayo and the 88 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 1: Santa Clarita area. They offer them others to to teach 89 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: you what to do in this sort of situation, to 90 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: how you do a turn a kid, how you use 91 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: blood clotting materials, how you had to put pressure on 92 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: a wound. So a lot of them had had that 93 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: as well, and they ran in instead of running away. 94 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: But still a lot of investigation that they've got to do, 95 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 1: the how and why they assumed the guns were bod 96 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: legally being Texas, but they're trying to track those down. 97 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: A lot of that they don't know yet. Was was 98 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: he Hispanic? His name suggests that more recent I see it. Yeah, 99 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: I believe I believe he was. But he identified with 100 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: with white supremacy groups and neo Nazigri. That that is 101 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 1: at least the road that investigators say early on it 102 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: it seems like it goes down again. There's definitely some 103 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: mental health issue was going on here, and the separated 104 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: from the army, so what his ideology was and and 105 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: all of that not totally clear mentally ill and very 106 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: well trained with guns. Yeah, it had a lot of 107 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: them apparently only needed to use one, but but had 108 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: others on them. 109 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 2: Yeah. 110 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: I mean I saw the video. Look like somebody had 111 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: dashcam video in the parking lot. He pulled out of 112 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: the car and started whiling away. Yeah, with his automatic weapon. 113 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just nothing you can do. And in 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: a case like this. All right, thanks very much, Alex, 115 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: you got it, Thanks Sean. All Right, Alex Stone. There 116 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,919 Speaker 1: is a lot of detail that's come out about his 117 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: interests and about his posts, and as Alex said, doesn't 118 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:13,000 Speaker 1: seem like he was posting to anybody. And he was 119 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 1: on a Russian social network something called ok dot r 120 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:25,160 Speaker 1: U and a lot of strange YouTube videos that he posted. 121 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: We'll get into the details. It's he is really insane, 122 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: absolutely insane. But you know, there's no there's no way. 123 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 1: We have to put insane people inside a concrete box 124 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: somewhere and lock them up, is what we ought to do. 125 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: John and Kankfi Deboramark live in the twenty four Hour 126 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 1: Cafe Newsroom. 127 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 4: Large group of people has been caught on video fighting 128 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 4: in the streets at the Grove in La LPD says 129 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,720 Speaker 4: that fight broke out yesterday afternoon. Showrunners in La say 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 4: they've been given notice saying they have to keep doing 131 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: their non writing duties during the writers strike, even if 132 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 4: it means crossing picket lines. For the first time in 133 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 4: thirty one years, the US has a new favorite dog breed. 134 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 4: The American Kennel Club released its twenty twenty two registration 135 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 4: stats and found that after being the most popular dog 136 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 4: breed for three decades, the Labrador Retriever was outranked by 137 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 4: the French bulldog. 138 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 5: We're going to go to the five next. 139 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,520 Speaker 1: Are you missing any teeth or are they? Are they 140 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: all there? They're just rotted. They're just black and brown 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 1: and maybe a little green. That's that's nice. 142 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 143 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 144 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: We just had Alex Ston on and he was telling 145 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: us about the Texas mall shooter, Mauricio Garcia. And he's 146 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 1: the one who showed up at the at the Outlet 147 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: mall and pulled out an HR fifteen and just started 148 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: gunning people down. And he killed eight people and he 149 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 1: wounded many more. And they're looking at his online rantings 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: and he had a lot of it. He would go 151 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: on this Russian social network platform ok dot ru and 152 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: there were a lot of posts connecting to extremist online 153 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: forums such as four chan rants against Jews, women, racial minorities. 154 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: He'd been doing this since September, and he's also posting 155 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: about struggling with mental health. Not that many people saw this. 156 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: He didn't have any followers. Maybe nobody saw it. What's well, 157 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: And he's also on a Russian site, so I guess 158 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: there's really nobody to believe this sort of thing. But 159 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: even if he was going on a mainstream American site 160 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: and had some followers, what difference would it make. Nobody 161 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: does anything right. There's no law to take somebody who's 162 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:08,559 Speaker 1: obviously violently mentally ill and lock them up. So he 163 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: was destined to do this. He had plenty of weapons. 164 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: In fact, he wrote many times about his mental health. 165 00:09:16,600 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: His last post, he worried about what his family might say, 166 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: and he wrote that no psychologists would have been able 167 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 1: to fix him, and he had said he told this 168 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: to his commanding officer. This is the one thing that 169 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:35,319 Speaker 1: people can't get their minds around. He knew it. There's 170 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: no fixing him. There's no therapy, there's no talk, therapy, counseling, 171 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,839 Speaker 1: there's no there are no pills. He's not going to 172 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: take the pills anyway. Like some of these mental Pasians 173 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: know that they're dangerous monsters and they know they can't 174 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: be helped, and they're right. They just need to be 175 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:02,080 Speaker 1: simply locked up. But we don't seem to have the 176 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: will to do that or the infrastructure to do that. 177 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 1: So this is what you get. It wasn't just on 178 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: this Russian site. He also had a YouTube account. He 179 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:15,679 Speaker 1: had posted a video of the day of the shooting. 180 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: In the video, he's wearing one of those scream masks 181 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: you know from the movie where it's a black mask 182 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: with the like a white guy. 183 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 5: I hate that mask. 184 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 4: I saw somebody wearing that mask in a parking lot 185 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 4: the other day in Woodland Hills. 186 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Oh. Run from that, Oh I did, because it's it's 187 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: way away from Halloween. 188 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 5: Now, I know. I don't know what the heck was 189 00:10:34,520 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 5: going on there. 190 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: He's a mask killer, that's what he is. That's what 191 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: these guys wear, the big wide open mouth. Really you 192 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: saw I did? Was he alone? 193 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 5: You know what? 194 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 4: It was dark and I and I said to my husband, 195 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 4: I said, look look at there's that that scary mask. 196 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 4: And I have no idea. I just saw the mask. 197 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 4: I don't even know if it was a person or 198 00:10:57,200 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 4: it just was hanging on the back of the headrest. 199 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,199 Speaker 5: I'm not sure I didn't. 200 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: That's not good either. 201 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I didn't investigate that one. 202 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: No, don't. Oh my god, guys, the guys wearing a 203 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: scream mask in May. 204 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 4: Again, it may not have been on a person, but 205 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 4: it was definitely in the backstone. 206 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: There's a reason for that. So he takes off his 207 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 1: screen mask in this YouTube video and says, not quite 208 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: what you were expecting. Huh. He also had photos of 209 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 1: a flak vest emblazoned with patches, including one with RWDS, 210 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: which stands for Right Wing Death Squad that's a popular 211 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 1: symbol among far right extremist groups. Also shirtless pictures with 212 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: white power tattoos, including SS lightning bolts of the swastika. Again, 213 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: this guy's Hispanic. He had multiple weapons, AR fifteen style handgun. 214 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: According to NBC. Most of his posts were misogynistic, railing 215 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: against women and carrying on about being an in cell 216 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:07,199 Speaker 1: involuntary celibate. These when you're involuntary obviously means no woman 217 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: wants to touch you. I can't imagine why a girl 218 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't be interested in this character. What turned you off exactly? 219 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: Is it the white supremacy tattoos? Is it the mental illness? 220 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: Is it the collection of weapons? I mean, what's turning 221 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: the girls off? Here? In fact, Garcia referenced specifically in 222 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: cell forums and he was lauding Elliott Roger. You remember 223 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: that guy twenty fourteen mass murder spree near you see 224 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: Santa Barbara in ale Vista, not far from here. That guy, 225 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: Elliott Roger became a patron saint for the violent in 226 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 1: cell crowd. He really inspired them. And when we spend 227 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about what's causing this, why 228 00:12:57,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: are there more? One thing I've noticed reading about this 229 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: over the years is the early the early generation, the 230 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 1: middle generation of mass killers, starting with the Columbine guys. 231 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,599 Speaker 1: The Columbine guys are way at the top of the hierarchy. 232 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: They are revered the way those revere the high priests 233 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,559 Speaker 1: and the religion. Sports guys might revere the best athletes 234 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: in each sport, and the Columbine guys who are there 235 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: at the top of the list. This this Elliott Roger 236 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: is number one in the in cell category. Like he 237 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: broke the ground and other in cells are saying, yeah, 238 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: that's the man, and you know, eventually they want to 239 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: emulate them. They want to be they want to match 240 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: his statistics, they want to become justice famous. It's a competition, 241 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's your peer group, it's your league that 242 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: you're competing in. So yeah, as Alex mentioned, he joined 243 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: in June two thousand and eight the Army three months 244 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: though he's out for a mental condition, did not complete 245 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: basic training, never deployed, never got any awards, and they 246 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: don't talk about why they discharged him, but clearly he 247 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 1: was severely mentally ill. So what are you gonna do? 248 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of these guys. I 249 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: don't know if any law enforcement agency is doing a 250 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: sweep of every online channel because there are many, many 251 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: of them. Now it's not just the big names. There's 252 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: all these small channels which you only hear about when 253 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: one of their one of their participants goes off. But 254 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: you know, you've heard of four chan, and you know 255 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: now that you see there's this Russian social networking platform 256 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: and what was what was the platform that the uh, 257 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: the guy who leaked the military secrets discord? Right, there's 258 00:14:59,680 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: tele Graham rumble. I mean, there's there's just there's endless 259 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: possibilities now and and and so if you just rounded 260 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: up all those guys who are posting all this violent imagery, 261 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: you'd get a fair number of would be serial killers. 262 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,040 Speaker 1: And a lot of these guys are definitely gonna blow, 263 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 1: just matters what day. But we will just sit around 264 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: till the next one, and you know, offer thoughts and 265 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: prayers and light candles and lay flowers, and meantime, the 266 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: next guy is busy posting all his violent nonsense and 267 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: nobody's gonna do anything about it. All right, more coming 268 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: up Johnny kenshow KFI. 269 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 270 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 6: A M six forty. 271 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: Ken is away today. He will be back tomorrow. Boy, 272 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: this was a sad story today in the Wall Street Journal, 273 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: and I know you may you might want to grab 274 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: a tissue, may start shedding tears. The headline is tech 275 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: workers aren't as rich as they used to be. A 276 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 1: lot of the tech workers got paid with stock grants 277 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 1: and stock options, and the crash of the stock market 278 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 1: in the tech sector has wiped out all the money 279 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: that they thought they were gonna They were going to 280 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 1: get and and they they they're just they're traumatized. Here 281 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: they talk about a guy named Tommy Yorke from San Francisco, 282 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: so we know what he's about. And he wanted to 283 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: buy a home in San Francisco, which is not a 284 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: good idea. And then Google's parent company, Alphabet, had a 285 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: record high and his pay package had one hundred and 286 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: seventy five thousand dollars stock grant that was going to 287 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: be paid out over a four year period. And then 288 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: tech stocks crashed. In fact, Alphabet Google fell almost forty 289 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: percent last year, and there goes all the compensation. See, 290 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: the tech companies don't don't pay in just dollars in 291 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: your paycheck. They pay in stock, which is only good 292 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 1: until the thing collapses. Then York got laid off. When 293 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,639 Speaker 1: he finally got his stock rank grant cashed in, it 294 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: was forty six thousand. He thought it was going to 295 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 1: be one hundred and seventy five thousand. I bring this 296 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:38,440 Speaker 1: up because Newsom and the state of California is extremely 297 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: dependent on these kind of people, because the top one 298 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: percent of earners create forty five percent of the income tax. 299 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: And this guy, Tommy Yorick is not alone. There are 300 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: tens of thousands of people, maybe hundreds of thousands of 301 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: people like him, who had stock in all these companies 302 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 1: and a crack and they lost their jobs and their 303 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: stock is never going to be worth anywhere near what 304 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: they thought it would. People who worked for Meta, which 305 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: is Facebook, they have. For example, if you got a 306 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars stock award at Facebook, it's now worth 307 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: one third less Amazon, though that stock has cut fifteen 308 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: to fifty percent off people's compensation this year, fifteen to 309 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:41,399 Speaker 1: fifty percent. And company stock makes up a sizeable share 310 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: of a tech employee total worth excuse me, tech employees 311 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: total worth because a lot of these people had a 312 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 1: chance to sell and didn't, thinking the price would keep 313 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: going up. That's what everybody thinks all the time, generation 314 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: after generation, it'll keep going up, even though they were 315 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 1: wildly overvalued. And there clearly was a bubble, a hysteria 316 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: going on. It always pops, it always crashes, and then uh, 317 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 1: and then people are standing there with their pants down. 318 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: There's one woman profiled here. Some of these some of 319 00:19:21,560 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: these people in the workplace now really mystify me. There's 320 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: a woman named Samantha voight. She worked for Square it's 321 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:37,359 Speaker 1: now known as Block, then a company that created those 322 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: square white like a portable credit card paying machines. If 323 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: you if you go to let's say, go to farmer's 324 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: market and you're you're buying vegetables, the guy behind the 325 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: vegetable county has a little square and he runs your 326 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: credit card through that. It made it possible to pay 327 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: with a credit card from just about everywhere in the world. 328 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: Uh and uh and business, no matter how small or temporary, 329 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: can get one of these. Anyway. She went to work 330 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: for Block and the company stock increased ninefold, ninefold. She 331 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: couldn't believe how much money she had, And then suddenly 332 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: there was a listen actually lived her life. She easily 333 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: covered twice weekly therapy sessions and costly visits to the 334 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 1: hair salon. And when she felt burned out by the pandemic, 335 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 1: she took a year off from work. A year off 336 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: from work. I can't imagine. She's twenty seven years old 337 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 1: and she actually thought the good times would boom on forever, 338 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: that it was a smart thing to disappear for a year. 339 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,879 Speaker 1: And you think that year off didn't show up when 340 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: they were doing employee evaluations because Google's harsh and they 341 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: just suddenly cut thousands and thousands of people. In no 342 00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: normal world, I realize in millennial gen Z world, it's 343 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: really cool to take a year off. And because you know, 344 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,120 Speaker 1: I've taken so much therapy. The hell does she talk 345 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: about in therapy twice twice a week. She's twenty seven, 346 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,359 Speaker 1: She's got a very high paying job. What's what's what 347 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: are the issues here? So she wanders around? She comes 348 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,359 Speaker 1: back now she has no job. Here are some of 349 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: the here are some of the compromises she's making, tries 350 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: to track her spending now online. She is now bathing 351 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: her dog herself instead of relying on a groomer. Wow, 352 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:39,400 Speaker 1: well that is. 353 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: A big compromise. You know, it is tricky grooming your 354 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 5: own dog. 355 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: What a crushing blow. Wow. 356 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 7: Why the dog has a lot of hair. What a sacrifice? 357 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,480 Speaker 7: You know how bad it is. I'm washing my own dog. 358 00:21:56,560 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 7: Now I can't afford the groomer. I gotta color my 359 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 7: own hair. Now I can only go to my therapist 360 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 7: once a week. 361 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: Jeez. And it just goes on and on about the 362 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,360 Speaker 1: struggles of these poor people, these poor people. Yeah, and quotes, 363 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: uh I don't know. There's something that the whole concept 364 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: of work ethic has completely been destroyed and disappeared. I 365 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,479 Speaker 1: think from an entire generation. It's fascinating. This is just uh. 366 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: Sometimes I wish my dad was around and I could 367 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: call them and tell them these stories. Can you imagine 368 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: Dad taking off a year from the factory and then 369 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: the indignity of having to wash your own dog? More? 370 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 1: Coming up, John and Ken. 371 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 6: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI 372 00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 6: AM six forty. 373 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: Coming up after three o'clock, we're going to talk to 374 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 1: a New York Post reporter, Todd ben'sman. He's been down 375 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 1: in Mexico and he's been chronicling an enormous number of 376 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: Venezuelans trying to get over the border, and he has 377 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: found there is a massive fraud going on among some 378 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: of the Venezuelans. There are more Venezuelans than almost any 379 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: other nationality trying across the border, and how they have 380 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: manipulated and scammed the system. Todd has an amazing story 381 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: to tell, and we'll talk with him. Coming up right 382 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: after three o'clock. You're gonna want to hear that now. 383 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: I never just mentioned before about the horror of seeing 384 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 1: a guy in a parked in a car wearing one 385 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: of those screen masks. Right. 386 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 5: Well, I saw the mask, the. 387 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: Mask, right, But it may have been a guy, or 388 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,080 Speaker 1: it's a guy who does wear the mask, or it just. 389 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,679 Speaker 5: Could have been sitting on the HEADWST. I don't know. 390 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: Let me share my potential nightmare when I saw this story. 391 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: Guy from Texas checks in to a hotel in downtown Nashville, 392 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: the Hilton. 393 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 2: Right. 394 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: Hilton's a good chain. Right, There's only a few chains 395 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: on the road that I trust, you know, just mainstream, 396 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: middle income chains. So Hilton is, he's in the Hilton, 397 00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: and he goes to bed, and he's sleeping in his bed. 398 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 1: And then the manager of the Nashville Hilton, David Neil, 399 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:36,120 Speaker 1: he's fifty two years old, he sneaks in. The guy 400 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: from Texas is named Peter Brennan. Okay, so imagine this 401 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: Brennan is under the cover, sleeping middle of the night, 402 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: and suddenly he's awakened because David Neil, the manager, is 403 00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 1: sucking on Brennan's toes. 404 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 5: What the manager of the hotel. 405 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: The manager is sucking on his toes? 406 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 5: Was he invited in? 407 00:24:56,119 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 1: He was not invited in. Peter Brennan was very upset. 408 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Guy entered about five o'clock in the morning. Brennan said 409 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 1: he jumped up screaming, and he jumped up and he 410 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:16,560 Speaker 1: recognized Neil as one of the employees, because Neil had 411 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,960 Speaker 1: come in the previous day to fix his TV. And 412 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: he starts questioning him, but he's like, why are you 413 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: sucking on my toes? What are you doing? How'd you 414 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: get in here? And the guy didn't have any good answers. 415 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: It's like, this is so disgusting. This is so rose 416 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 1: and disgusting. God, this is one of my things when 417 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I'm in a hotel is strange staff members coming in 418 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: during the night and the thing is. 419 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 5: You could lock the door, but they. 420 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: Go they got Well, this guy had made a copy 421 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: of the key card so that he could get in, 422 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: so I guess he came in to fix the TV 423 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: during the day and decided. 424 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 5: Wow, he has nice toes. 425 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if he saw the toes or just 426 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: thought he was so handsome that he must have good toes. 427 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,440 Speaker 1: This is so gross. Then he tried to tell police, well, yeah, 428 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: I did break into the room, but I thought I 429 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: thought I smelled smoke, and I wanted to make sure 430 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,960 Speaker 1: that he was okay. 431 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,159 Speaker 4: Okay, that makes no sense, because then why are you 432 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:26,400 Speaker 4: stucking the toes? 433 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: Maybe they were on fire, they were so hot. So 434 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 1: he was arrested at his home. Well that's embarrassing. Huh. 435 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: And look at that they put him away. Seeing Tennessee, 436 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,959 Speaker 1: they don't screw around twenty seven thousand dollars bail. Huh. 437 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: How about that. You can't get a twenty seven thousand 438 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: dollars bails You killed somebody here in La Now, Brennan, 439 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: he says, I'm having problems. 440 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 5: Sleeping, he's traumatized. 441 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm going through some PTSD talking to a therapist. 442 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 5: I don't blame him. 443 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: What the therapist gonna gonna help. 444 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 4: Him get over this PDSD? I mean, John, if somebody 445 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 4: broke into your hotel and started sucking your toes, you 446 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 4: may need a therapy too. 447 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: There's a reason you always put the dead bolt on 448 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: when you're at a hope. I thought that, Yeah, there 449 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: was a mistake there. Yeah, I still don't feel safe 450 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: in my own home. Well, it's not gonna happen again. 451 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,920 Speaker 1: And the only response that got from Hilton oh Man 452 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: every corporation says this, the safety and security of our 453 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: gas is our top priority, and Hilton takes matters such 454 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: as these very seriously. Car Yeah, right, exactly, go right 455 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: to the customer service sheet. Yes, I hear your complaint. 456 00:27:56,960 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: I understand, I understand, I understand. I'm sorry you feel 457 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: that way. I'm sorry you didn't enjoy the experience. But 458 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: you like one hundred dollars discount during your next day. 459 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 5: We'll give you free breakfast tomorrow. 460 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: And then the latest with Anheuser Bush and bud Light 461 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: over that, over that transgender that they had promoting their beer. 462 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: The executives are trying to get out of this so badly, 463 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: and they don't know what to do because the bud 464 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: Lights sales are down twenty six percent. It keeps getting 465 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: worse every week, and and they don't know how to. 466 00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 1: You know, it was like eleven percent, there was twenty 467 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 1: one percent, and it's twenty six percent there. I think 468 00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: we mentioned the other day that they're sending free cases 469 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: of beer to distributors. But what's a free case of 470 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 1: beer going to do if you've got nobody to give 471 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: it to. And and now that they're not now that 472 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: they're not standing their transgender endorser, Dylan mulvaney. There's a 473 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: lot of gay activist groups that are angry. And one 474 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 1: distributor said, well, you know I lost I lost my 475 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: cowboy bars, and now I'm going to lose the gay bars. 476 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: He's getting hit from both ends here anyway. The latest 477 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: is Anheuser Busch is trying to tell us distributors that 478 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 1: it was a third party ad agency that was responsible 479 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: for this. See now they're blaming an outside ad agency. 480 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 1: Now they got rid of two of their advertising executives 481 00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: in house because I guess they approved this, but I 482 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: suppose they contracted the idea out or they contracted with 483 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: an outside agency and this was the idea that came 484 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: back to them, and then the two executives who approved 485 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: it got fired. But they were all in favor of it. 486 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,400 Speaker 1: So getting rid of the Anheuser Busch in house marketing 487 00:29:51,440 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: executives wasn't enough. So they're sending out letters and the 488 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: letter this is what they claim at agencies send out 489 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: hundreds of influencer kits a year, some of which have 490 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: a customized can included. This was one of those situations. 491 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: They're insisting this was just one can In fact, that's 492 00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: the exact quote from the Anheuser Busch CEO Michelle Ducis. 493 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: It's a man. He says, it was one can, one influencer, 494 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: one post, not a campaign. He had to tell this 495 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 1: to investors and writers on a conference call because Anheuser 496 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,719 Speaker 1: Busch was coming out with its with its earnings report, 497 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: and you go on a conference call and you tell 498 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: all the investors and you tell all the media, you 499 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: know what's going on, and so he was. He was 500 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: insisting that look, look, this was just a terrible fluke, 501 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: one bad idea outside third party agency. It was only 502 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: one can, it was only one post. There's one transgender 503 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: And what's funny is the audience just doesn't one to 504 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: hear it. They and what I have read is that 505 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: it's really hurting bar sales because guys are afraid to 506 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 1: order the beer in front of their friends. Like maybe 507 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:17,920 Speaker 1: they'll drink it at home if they like it, but 508 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: they're not going to be seen ordering in front of 509 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 1: other people, especially other people they know, because they don't 510 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: want to deal with the uh, with all the with 511 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: all the razzing as they bring it back to the table. 512 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: So uh, I don't know how you get around that. Yeah, Oh, 513 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: you don't get around that. Once. Uh kid Rock took that, uh, 514 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: that machine gun or whatever he had and blasted those 515 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: beer cans. They they were they were cooked. All right. 516 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: When we come back three o'clock, we're gonna have Devers 517 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: News and then talk to Todd Benzman from the New 518 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: York Posts. He's in Mexico and he is chronicling what 519 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: he says is a massive fraud by illegal aliens coming 520 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: from Venezuela. And it's quite detailed and fascinating and it's 521 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: the stuff that nobody else is reporting on, but we'll 522 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: tell you about it. John and Ken Show. 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