1 00:00:30,319 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Pats from the Past. Tune in is Matt Smith and 2 00:00:32,598 --> 00:00:35,119 Speaker 1: Paul Perillo offer in depth interviews with some of the 3 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,039 Speaker 1: greatest players and coaches in New England Patriots history. Joined 4 00:00:38,039 --> 00:00:40,359 Speaker 1: by the newest member of the Patriots Hall Fame, Mike Rabold. 5 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: Find out what led to some of the greatest moments 6 00:00:42,519 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: in franchise history and unique behind the scenes insight. 7 00:00:45,239 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 2: And please to be joined by former Patriot quarterback Brian 8 00:00:47,959 --> 00:00:50,519 Speaker 2: coy Or. Joined by number thirty seven on your scorecard, 9 00:00:50,519 --> 00:00:53,159 Speaker 2: but number one in our hearts at least Rodney Harrison. 10 00:00:53,439 --> 00:00:55,719 Speaker 2: Good to be home, Good to see you guys. 11 00:00:55,799 --> 00:00:59,079 Speaker 1: Search for Pats in the Past anywhere you get your podcast. 12 00:01:00,359 --> 00:01:04,999 Speaker 2: Morning. You know, like I always tell you guys, I 13 00:01:04,999 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 2: always take this opportunity to speak with you guys, and 14 00:01:08,158 --> 00:01:10,798 Speaker 2: really with the understanding that I'm talking to the players, 15 00:01:10,799 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 2: all right, talking to the players. Obviously there are things 16 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:15,439 Speaker 2: where I'm talking to the fans as well, but you know, 17 00:01:15,479 --> 00:01:17,359 Speaker 2: the message for those guys, like it's all about the 18 00:01:17,399 --> 00:01:19,519 Speaker 2: Jets and we're moving forward. You know. Obviously there's a 19 00:01:19,559 --> 00:01:21,678 Speaker 2: lot of noise out there, and I said, you know, 20 00:01:21,759 --> 00:01:23,999 Speaker 2: we are what our record is and we have to 21 00:01:23,999 --> 00:01:27,599 Speaker 2: get better, and that ultimately is my responsibility. And look, 22 00:01:27,639 --> 00:01:31,359 Speaker 2: I take all the blame. It's fine, and it's moving 23 00:01:31,399 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 2: on to the Jets. 24 00:01:33,158 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 1: That said, your message to the guys, what kind of 25 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:38,599 Speaker 1: responsibility do you feel you need to take this week 26 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: with this team because of where they're at and all 27 00:01:40,799 --> 00:01:41,758 Speaker 1: the noises kind. 28 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:43,719 Speaker 2: Of around the world, just continue to uses as an 29 00:01:43,719 --> 00:01:45,878 Speaker 2: opportunity to get closer as a unit. You know, it's 30 00:01:45,879 --> 00:01:47,399 Speaker 2: not the first time that any of those men in 31 00:01:47,439 --> 00:01:50,279 Speaker 2: there have had to deal with diversity, myself included. It's 32 00:01:50,279 --> 00:01:52,399 Speaker 2: the time for us to get closer while you know, 33 00:01:52,439 --> 00:01:54,879 Speaker 2: everything around you gets louder and hopefully we go out 34 00:01:54,879 --> 00:01:56,479 Speaker 2: there and get a victory. 35 00:02:00,039 --> 00:02:01,919 Speaker 1: Crowd. Is it harder for you to talk to your 36 00:02:01,919 --> 00:02:04,759 Speaker 1: team now than it was started the season or after 37 00:02:04,799 --> 00:02:05,479 Speaker 1: the Bengals game? 38 00:02:05,679 --> 00:02:07,359 Speaker 2: Not at all. And I said, is look, during a 39 00:02:07,399 --> 00:02:09,439 Speaker 2: time of piece, I always tell those guys like, remember 40 00:02:09,478 --> 00:02:11,478 Speaker 2: what we say on day one when we get to 41 00:02:11,559 --> 00:02:14,879 Speaker 2: day one hundred, and you know, I think consistency, especially 42 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 2: leadership role, is definitely important. And for me, you know, 43 00:02:18,119 --> 00:02:20,439 Speaker 2: we get to Wednesday at this point in time, We've 44 00:02:20,478 --> 00:02:23,319 Speaker 2: always changed the page, win loser, draw and that's always 45 00:02:23,358 --> 00:02:25,319 Speaker 2: been my mindset and that's my message to the team 46 00:02:25,679 --> 00:02:27,559 Speaker 2: co jacksone who's always been a vote leader on this 47 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 2: team bo as a player and as a coach. For broadcast, 48 00:02:30,119 --> 00:02:32,439 Speaker 2: it seems like really more years like standing on the sidelines. 49 00:02:32,599 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 2: Has it really thought to me like engaging more with 50 00:02:34,559 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 2: the players? 51 00:02:34,999 --> 00:02:36,439 Speaker 1: I know everyone's got different styles. 52 00:02:36,478 --> 00:02:38,279 Speaker 2: Look in two of your approach. I do engage with 53 00:02:38,319 --> 00:02:39,999 Speaker 2: the players. I engage with the defense, and I would 54 00:02:39,999 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 2: say I also have a headset where I'm flipping through 55 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,559 Speaker 2: channels talking to the coordinators. There have been times where 56 00:02:44,559 --> 00:02:46,279 Speaker 2: I brought those guys up, and there have been times 57 00:02:46,279 --> 00:02:49,198 Speaker 2: where I've let the coordinators or position coach do their thing, 58 00:02:49,519 --> 00:02:51,319 Speaker 2: even though we've talked about it on the headset. So 59 00:02:52,119 --> 00:02:54,559 Speaker 2: is there any consideration when you're taking more ownership of 60 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,039 Speaker 2: the defense? De Marcus is our defensive coordinator. Look, I 61 00:02:58,079 --> 00:03:00,599 Speaker 2: have ownership of the defense, the offense, and special teams. 62 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 2: That's how I look at it. You know those guys 63 00:03:02,079 --> 00:03:05,319 Speaker 2: are coordinators. But once again, ultimately it's it falls on me. 64 00:03:05,799 --> 00:03:08,719 Speaker 2: Did you say anything more to the guys in light 65 00:03:08,758 --> 00:03:10,839 Speaker 2: of your comments on Sunday that they were playing software 66 00:03:10,839 --> 00:03:14,759 Speaker 2: and now no, Look, we're onto the Jets today. If 67 00:03:14,799 --> 00:03:16,999 Speaker 2: we've had those conversations. I've always looked at that as 68 00:03:16,999 --> 00:03:18,958 Speaker 2: an opportunity to go out there and prove everyone wrong. 69 00:03:19,079 --> 00:03:21,319 Speaker 2: That's how. And once again going back to a chip 70 00:03:21,359 --> 00:03:23,999 Speaker 2: on your shoulder, we've all had those chips on our 71 00:03:23,999 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 2: shoulders at times that have gotten us through and so 72 00:03:26,079 --> 00:03:28,999 Speaker 2: this is no different. Obviously, once again, we are struggling 73 00:03:29,038 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 2: as a team. Our records, our record is what it is. 74 00:03:31,399 --> 00:03:33,199 Speaker 2: It's about what we can do to get better. What 75 00:03:33,319 --> 00:03:36,719 Speaker 2: is it what's the player reaction into those comments, whether 76 00:03:36,759 --> 00:03:39,759 Speaker 2: it was after the game right over a radio reports them. 77 00:03:40,359 --> 00:03:43,079 Speaker 2: Look after the game, we're all disappointed. On the plane 78 00:03:43,119 --> 00:03:46,199 Speaker 2: along plane ride home, we're all disappointed. And again it's 79 00:03:46,239 --> 00:03:48,399 Speaker 2: about getting to Wednesday. So we can now focus on 80 00:03:48,439 --> 00:03:50,959 Speaker 2: the next target. And Uh, the guys have good juice, 81 00:03:51,159 --> 00:03:53,799 Speaker 2: expecting a good practice and we'll see how it looks 82 00:03:53,879 --> 00:03:54,319 Speaker 2: on Sunday. 83 00:03:54,679 --> 00:03:57,199 Speaker 1: Would you want a reaction out of them in some ways? 84 00:03:57,199 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: Would you want them to get mad? 85 00:03:59,519 --> 00:04:01,879 Speaker 2: For instance? Like are you trying to do that with 86 00:04:02,239 --> 00:04:06,279 Speaker 2: almost But I'm just telling you, like when I when 87 00:04:06,279 --> 00:04:08,559 Speaker 2: I talk after games, it's about what I see out 88 00:04:08,559 --> 00:04:12,079 Speaker 2: there on the field at that current time. In saying that, 89 00:04:12,199 --> 00:04:14,959 Speaker 2: like the guys are preparing like it's any other week, 90 00:04:14,999 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 2: and we're talking about the Jets, concerned along the message 91 00:04:19,318 --> 00:04:22,879 Speaker 2: getting through the guys, whether it be setting edges and 92 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:25,679 Speaker 2: struggling to do that, leaks or now every kinds stop 93 00:04:25,719 --> 00:04:28,759 Speaker 2: the run, five weeks of roll over twenty coach, or 94 00:04:28,799 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 2: it's a game at seven. I'm always concerned about our 95 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: team like that comes with the responsibility, responsibility of being 96 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 2: the head coach. And I would say if we were 97 00:04:40,039 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: sitting here at six and one, I still would be 98 00:04:42,359 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 2: concerned with a lot of different aspects. So I look 99 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,839 Speaker 2: at it the same way. How different is this challenge Sunday? 100 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: Now that they have Devonte. 101 00:04:48,678 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 2: Adams in the games? He's I mean, look, he's a 102 00:04:50,799 --> 00:04:53,279 Speaker 2: good player, obviously, has a great rapport with the quarterback, 103 00:04:53,318 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 2: and you know, another week and second week having him, 104 00:04:56,799 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: I expect him to be more involved, even though he 105 00:04:59,078 --> 00:05:01,158 Speaker 2: was involved the first game. Going back to. 106 00:05:01,359 --> 00:05:03,678 Speaker 1: Play soft comments, I know you said you're not coaching 107 00:05:03,879 --> 00:05:05,518 Speaker 1: players to do that. What are you going to do 108 00:05:05,558 --> 00:05:07,519 Speaker 1: this week to prevent that from happening again? 109 00:05:07,599 --> 00:05:10,319 Speaker 2: Look, all the guys understand, you know, we've had our conversations. 110 00:05:10,318 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 2: It's onto the Jets and that's what we're gonna do. 111 00:05:11,958 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 2: We're just gonna go out there and play good football. 112 00:05:13,999 --> 00:05:15,758 Speaker 2: That's what we need to do in all three phases 113 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,998 Speaker 2: of the game. Well that involved any kind of changes 114 00:05:18,119 --> 00:05:20,759 Speaker 2: on the practice field or the pigs. We always try 115 00:05:20,759 --> 00:05:25,158 Speaker 2: to We always try new things during practice, even going 116 00:05:25,159 --> 00:05:26,998 Speaker 2: back to training camp. You always look for things that 117 00:05:27,119 --> 00:05:29,519 Speaker 2: get responses from your players. Look, we're gonna go out there. 118 00:05:29,599 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 2: Wednesday is always been a work day for us, and 119 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:33,198 Speaker 2: I expect that to continue today. 120 00:05:33,519 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: Real hard time stopping the run. As a defensive what 121 00:05:35,639 --> 00:05:38,799 Speaker 1: if you see on films a defensive guy that you 122 00:05:38,919 --> 00:05:41,358 Speaker 1: think that you can change to get it right. 123 00:05:41,399 --> 00:05:42,998 Speaker 2: I would say, like the last three weeks, you know, 124 00:05:43,239 --> 00:05:45,318 Speaker 2: you look at one game, it's the three big runs, 125 00:05:45,359 --> 00:05:47,319 Speaker 2: and then you look at this pass game and it's 126 00:05:47,359 --> 00:05:49,758 Speaker 2: the four yard, five yard, four yard, six yard, just 127 00:05:49,799 --> 00:05:54,599 Speaker 2: the continuous you know, like slow, slow bleed, and you know, 128 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,199 Speaker 2: we have to do a better job like getting off 129 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,398 Speaker 2: blocks and going out there tackling the ball carrier. And 130 00:05:59,479 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 2: again it's a huge opportunity this week to got to 131 00:06:02,639 --> 00:06:03,399 Speaker 2: get back on track. 132 00:06:03,799 --> 00:06:06,879 Speaker 1: Those you consider you guys cell Later to gapping. 133 00:06:06,759 --> 00:06:10,759 Speaker 2: Defense, I would say, like if you look over the 134 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,278 Speaker 2: last I mean, if you go back and watch film 135 00:06:13,318 --> 00:06:15,039 Speaker 2: over the last five or ten years, there are times 136 00:06:15,039 --> 00:06:17,559 Speaker 2: when you are in a two gap mentality, but there 137 00:06:17,599 --> 00:06:19,639 Speaker 2: are also times when you're in a one gap mentality. 138 00:06:19,678 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 2: And that goes back to the game planning. 139 00:06:21,519 --> 00:06:24,439 Speaker 1: So the reasons I'm just I'm wondering if when there 140 00:06:24,479 --> 00:06:27,118 Speaker 1: are issues like you guys have this past week or 141 00:06:27,159 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 1: with couple weeks back, I think last round, five yards 142 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 1: and round, do. 143 00:06:33,958 --> 00:06:35,199 Speaker 2: You have to do? You have to think of what 144 00:06:35,399 --> 00:06:38,998 Speaker 2: changing like philosophically, what you guys do in order to 145 00:06:39,159 --> 00:06:40,118 Speaker 2: adjust because you have that. 146 00:06:40,119 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: Some personnel, when you're missing some players, does that change? 147 00:06:43,919 --> 00:06:46,159 Speaker 2: You have to handle things well. The players that we 148 00:06:46,198 --> 00:06:48,199 Speaker 2: have in that locker room right now are the players 149 00:06:48,239 --> 00:06:52,558 Speaker 2: that are capable and have done throughout the season. UH 150 00:06:52,799 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 2: done a good job against the run. And once again, 151 00:06:55,078 --> 00:06:57,878 Speaker 2: it's about just on a down after down after down basis. 152 00:06:57,919 --> 00:07:00,999 Speaker 2: I tell the players, no matter what UH special teams 153 00:07:00,999 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 2: offense or defense, Like I don't have a crystal ball, 154 00:07:02,958 --> 00:07:04,638 Speaker 2: I don't know what play it's gonna be, but we 155 00:07:04,759 --> 00:07:07,999 Speaker 2: just need to be sound on every plays. He from 156 00:07:07,999 --> 00:07:09,959 Speaker 2: the run defense at the run game, I'm sorry, maybe 157 00:07:09,999 --> 00:07:13,759 Speaker 2: why they've been structing. Uh, there are different factors, you know. 158 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:15,079 Speaker 2: I wish I could get up here and just tell 159 00:07:15,078 --> 00:07:17,359 Speaker 2: you it's one thing, it's not. I mean, we need 160 00:07:17,359 --> 00:07:19,439 Speaker 2: to be a balanced offense. That's what we need to do. 161 00:07:19,519 --> 00:07:21,799 Speaker 2: And uh here against the Jets, hopefully we get that 162 00:07:21,879 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 2: balance that we need. 163 00:07:23,799 --> 00:07:28,839 Speaker 1: You you always you start talking. Are you disappointed at all? 164 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:38,079 Speaker 2: Billy? Some shots this process. Like I said, my main 165 00:07:38,159 --> 00:07:40,518 Speaker 2: focus is the guys inside of this building, not only 166 00:07:40,559 --> 00:07:42,599 Speaker 2: the players, but also the coaches and the rest of 167 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:44,799 Speaker 2: the staff. And look, as soon as we, you know, 168 00:07:44,839 --> 00:07:48,759 Speaker 2: turn this thing around, then we'll be okay. It comes 169 00:07:48,799 --> 00:07:50,519 Speaker 2: down to wins and losses, Like that's what it comes 170 00:07:50,519 --> 00:07:52,319 Speaker 2: down to me, and that's what you're ultimately judged by. 171 00:07:53,679 --> 00:07:55,319 Speaker 1: Also in the gards to the noise, did you feel 172 00:07:55,319 --> 00:07:58,239 Speaker 1: compelled to talk to the team about social media or. 173 00:07:58,559 --> 00:08:01,759 Speaker 2: Make any change? You know? For me, it is what 174 00:08:01,799 --> 00:08:03,559 Speaker 2: it is like. If you're winning games, there'll be noise. 175 00:08:03,599 --> 00:08:05,399 Speaker 2: If you're I mean, we've done this for a long time. 176 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:08,239 Speaker 2: It's very it's very cyclical. You know, sometimes narratives are 177 00:08:08,239 --> 00:08:10,478 Speaker 2: already written. It's about just the different cast of characters. 178 00:08:10,479 --> 00:08:12,799 Speaker 2: And what I would say is, you know, we know 179 00:08:13,039 --> 00:08:15,599 Speaker 2: that the only people that can go out there and 180 00:08:15,639 --> 00:08:18,079 Speaker 2: win football games. It's not the media. It's not it's 181 00:08:18,119 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 2: not your mom calling you telling you to do X, 182 00:08:20,359 --> 00:08:22,039 Speaker 2: Y and Z, or someone at the grocery store. No, 183 00:08:22,159 --> 00:08:27,759 Speaker 2: it's about the guys that are in this building. Concussion. 184 00:08:29,119 --> 00:08:30,399 Speaker 2: He's in the protocol. 185 00:08:32,839 --> 00:08:36,639 Speaker 1: With jenal Pol. He had to see his quote produced 186 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: in your opinions. He looked like, I got to you 187 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:40,119 Speaker 1: that just needs like a little time away. 188 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, as he goes through the protocol. Well, 189 00:08:44,759 --> 00:08:46,759 Speaker 2: we'll address it at that point. Thanks. 190 00:08:48,479 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: Patriots Playbook, join John Rook as he brings you all 191 00:08:51,319 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: the latest Patriots Talk an expert commentary direct from Patriots HQ. 192 00:08:55,399 --> 00:08:57,799 Speaker 1: The show features interviews with New England and Opponent Beat 193 00:08:57,799 --> 00:08:59,838 Speaker 1: writers that bring you a unique media view of the 194 00:08:59,879 --> 00:09:02,039 Speaker 1: state of the team. But where the Patriots are concerned, 195 00:09:02,279 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: Let's just get one thing done and let's get it 196 00:09:04,639 --> 00:09:07,838 Speaker 1: done right and then we can worry about versatility. Am 197 00:09:07,839 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: I lying to anybody here? Let's just get one thing done. 198 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 1: Let's get one thing done right, and then we can 199 00:09:13,399 --> 00:09:16,239 Speaker 1: move along. That's kind of my biggest thing. Search Patriots 200 00:09:16,239 --> 00:09:18,119 Speaker 1: Playbook anywhere you get your podcasts.