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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 2: But you're a guest to my home.

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Speaker 1: You gotta come to me empty, And I said, no guests.

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Speaker 1: Your presences presents enough.

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Speaker 3: I already had too much stuff, So how did you

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Speaker 3: dare to surbey me?

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Speaker 2: Welcome to I said, no gifts. I'm Bridgard Wineger. We're

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Speaker 2: in the backyard. It's night. I had a weird amount

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Speaker 2: of lunch today, which threw off my plan to eat

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Speaker 2: just going to see how that you know, that affects,

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Speaker 2: you know, how it interacts with my lowering blood sugar.

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Speaker 2: You might notice some swings and emotions. That's fine. That's

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Speaker 2: what we're going to deal with. And if I can,

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Speaker 2: for just one moment, and I obviously can, this is

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Speaker 2: my podcast. I have to just get down and plead

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Speaker 2: we as a society, we have got to give colts

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Speaker 2: a break. We have to stop talking about cults for

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Speaker 2: ten minutes. We have to more importantly, we have to

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Speaker 2: stop making documentaries about cults. I can't open one of

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Speaker 2: these streaming services again to see a cult documentary. We've

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Speaker 2: run through the interesting ones. I need a break. It's

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Speaker 2: crushing me. I know this is hard for people to hear,

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Speaker 2: the podcast. It's very important that we stop it. Let's

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Speaker 2: find something else to talk about. Okay, let's get into

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Speaker 2: the podcast. I'm so thrilled about today's guest. It's Joe Zimmer. Joe,

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Speaker 2: welcome to I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 4: It's me. I'm here. Thank you for having me. It's

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Speaker 4: a gift to be in your presence.

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Speaker 2: Oh God, bless I mean, I'm sorry to come with

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Speaker 2: a lot of angry energy. Sure, but I do think

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Speaker 2: this might have some could do with not having eaten yet.

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Speaker 2: But that's okay. Yeah, you told me you're coming from

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Speaker 2: a bird watching spot.

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Speaker 4: I did. I was a serious XM earlier and then

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Speaker 4: I stopped by. I saw that near your house is

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Speaker 4: the Audubon Society at Debs. There's a park about a

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Speaker 2: Right, I think that's the hike where there's the pond

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Speaker 4: I didn't see the pond, but there's a lot of

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Speaker 4: different top areas. Okay, so I didn't, but I did

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Speaker 4: get to an a top. Okay, beautiful view. I highly

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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful park. Yeah, I've been up to the

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Speaker 2: turtle part multiple times anytime someone's in town. I mean,

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Speaker 2: how often do you get to see a pond just

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Speaker 4: I mean twice a week Central Park turtle pond. But

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Speaker 2: I didn't know there was a turtle pond in Central Park.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right on Belvedere Castle, next to the boat house.

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Speaker 2: How have I missed that?

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Speaker 4: In next to the ramble as well. It's in the

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Speaker 2: or the pond the pond. Oh, but it's not known

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Speaker 2: as turtle pond. I think it is called turtle interesting. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So, Oh, we've got some sort of hovering vehicle. That

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Speaker 2: sounds nice. I like that low rumble. Actually, if the

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Speaker 2: listener can hear it, that's probably lulling them to sleep.

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Speaker 4: Already, want white noise for sleep? Yeah? Is a plane

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Speaker 2: Do you use a white noise machine.

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Speaker 4: I do ten hours YouTube? Uh, waterfall, I'll do ten

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Speaker 4: hours YouTube European blizzard.

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Speaker 2: Oh, European blizzard.

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Speaker 4: I'll do twelve hours. Space station can't recommend that enough?

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Speaker 2: Okay, what space Station International? But like, what what's the sound? Okay?

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Speaker 4: And I looked it up. What is that? It's just

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Speaker 4: whatever keeps the space station going, whatever gadget, whatever gadgets

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Speaker 4: Make this basic white noise. So worrying, Yes, a worrying

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Speaker 4: Fall's best waterfall for your white noise. Okay, And if

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Speaker 4: to know who the people are that are thumbing down

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Speaker 4: but there's enough thumbs down so you're like, what brought

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Speaker 2: I mean, what else would they want from it?

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Speaker 4: All I could think was TLC's hit song Waterfall. But

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Speaker 2: Everybody's got a little thing. Wow, interesting the water I

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Speaker 2: hope they've listened to all ten hours of it before

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Speaker 4: You're right, Maybe they maybe they left too soon before

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Speaker 2: Right, It probably takes a nice turn around act two

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Speaker 2: or something. Sure, Yeah, no are the.

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Speaker 4: Night of the Soul? I know some movie terms.

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Speaker 2: You've read The Cat Book.

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Speaker 4: The Cat Book. We've all read the Cat Book. We're

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Speaker 2: Angeles, everybody here. You can't enter the city without reading

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Speaker 2: the Cat Book. I think I listened to it on

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Speaker 2: My question about these white noise videos that are ten

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Speaker 4: Well, you know what, You're right if you don't have

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Speaker 2: Okay, and bringing another small bragging.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to spend that nine ninety nine a

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Speaker 4: doing very well. But if you spend the nine ninety

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Speaker 4: the premium you know every twenty minutes, are you having

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Speaker 2: The I need the right other things you're watching on

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Speaker 4: I love the relaxing sounds. I'll do during the day.

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Speaker 4: I'll do aquarium, aquarium, bubbles, bubbles. Yeah, I'll do rain

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Speaker 2: Right, right, And I mean we can get office topic.

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Speaker 2: But European winter you're yeah, European blizzard. Oh, European blizzard, whipping.

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Speaker 2: I don't use white noise?

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Speaker 4: Do you do? You go an old school rotary white

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Speaker 4: I mean it is that's my kind that's my kind

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Speaker 4: He's gonna get he might actually get a hearing damage

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Speaker 2: And I feel like I've read like seven minutes of

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Speaker 4: It feelsoild, another excellent white noise jet engine. You could

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Speaker 2: There are nighttime ones. Oh not like I thought you

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Speaker 4: Sure you know Merlin. It tells you all the birds

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Speaker 4: But a lot of scrub jays. I'm sure you're familiar

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Speaker 4: Well, I've just seen the competition. Oh okay, they show

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Speaker 2: Oh, because it's so accurate, and it's I mean, it's deceit,

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Speaker 2: This sounds to me like this group just isn't capable

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Speaker 4: And everybody discovered something in sixteen.

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Speaker 2: Hundreds, you've had to discover it's affair, and we get nothing.

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Speaker 2: Anyway, that'll disappear. We should all everybody should get to

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Speaker 4: A pet. Yeah, every ten years, all the animals' names

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Speaker 2: you hear that on aalise Okay, it's not on Aalisea's car.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. No, I you said no gifts, but I was like,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I would be open to that.

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Speaker 2: Well, there are two gifts, As I said, there's one

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Speaker 4: I don't know what do they say with When you

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Speaker 4: just a just a gift that I thought is something

444
00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 4: that you could actually use and enjoy because it's something

445
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,919
Speaker 4: that I use and enjoy, and it's pure, just something

446
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 4: I would give you for Christmas.

447
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: Oh great, I'm very excited gonna.

448
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,200
Speaker 4: And I've bought I've bought six of these on Amazon

449
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 4: so far.

450
00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 2: Wait, oh my god, this looks great.

451
00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 4: It is a shatsu massage with heat. With heat, you

452
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,200
Speaker 4: can go heat or no heat.

453
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,439
Speaker 2: Where did you have you used one of these before?

454
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,680
Speaker 4: I used one actively? In fact, sometimes I even travel

455
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: with one because if you ever get that plane soreness,

456
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 4: you just hit yourself with that Shiatsu massage.

457
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 2: Do you take this on the plane with you? I have, Yeah,

458
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,120
Speaker 2: And so it doesn't need a chord or anything. I'm

459
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 2: not just like, I'm not even talking as though this

460
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: is our podcast. It's just like, now I'm interested how

461
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:04,800
Speaker 2: this works.

462
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: You do need to plug it in.

463
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,359
Speaker 2: Okay, you do need to plug it.

464
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 4: Airplanes have those?

465
00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 2: Now, Oh that's true. That's very true. I mean that

466
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 2: speaks to the flights I'm buying. Wow, this is very interesting.

467
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 2: What so, do you have a lot of soreness or

468
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 2: I do?

469
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: Okay, I and I just like massages, right, and if

470
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 4: you go get your if you go get a professional massage,

471
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 4: is like one hundred and fifty bucks.

472
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: Say again, this again speaks to the sort of massages

473
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm getting there. I'm paying about sixty dollars.

474
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,520
Speaker 4: Well then they want you to tip.

475
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's I mean still half of what you

476
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: just said.

477
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 4: I guess New York is expensive.

478
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, this is a free massage, free massage. How

479
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 2: big do you put it? Behind your neck or your

480
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 2: back or anything?

481
00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: You can put it anywhere that's sore. I do legs,

482
00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,440
Speaker 4: I'll do back, and I recommend putting a little towel

483
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 4: over it to soften the blow.

484
00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh right, it's like a pretty intense massage.

485
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 4: So you can put as many towels over you want

486
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 4: to make it whatever level you want.

487
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 2: Okay, And does it get pretty hot?

488
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can turn the heat off.

489
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 2: Oh, you can turn the heat off. I like a

490
00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:15,280
Speaker 2: nice hot, sweaty massage.

491
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 4: I've bought about five of these off Amazon. I've got

492
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 4: about four Hemalayan salt lamps. So I'm really hitting the higgee.

493
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,479
Speaker 4: What do you call it the higgie?

494
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's heigi, Yeah, HyGG e.

495
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,800
Speaker 4: I love the haigie.

496
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 2: Yeah. Your apartment must be very cozy.

497
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 4: Oh well, I don't like to brag about it, but

498
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 4: we've got Christmas lights up, we got massages, we got

499
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 4: Himalayan salt lamps, we got little heating pads, lots of

500
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 4: bird ornaments on the tree.

501
00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,160
Speaker 2: What does the salt lamp? What is it supposed thing?

502
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,440
Speaker 4: You don't have a salt lamp.

503
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't have a salt.

504
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:56,399
Speaker 4: I should have got you as salt.

505
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:02,120
Speaker 2: There's always another episode. We'll try to book one. Before

506
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: you leave down, you get like an urgent email tonight.

507
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:10,000
Speaker 4: Emily in Salt. Lamb is the best thing you can

508
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 4: get on Amazon.

509
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,520
Speaker 2: Are sincere right now here.

510
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:20,680
Speaker 4: It's only nineteen dollars, it weighs about seventy pounds, it's

511
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:26,040
Speaker 4: pure salt. It has an amazing pink glow that'll just

512
00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 4: make any room glow in a nice, pink, comfortable glow.

513
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 4: And then it says on there that it gives off

514
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 4: it ionizes the air, which purifies the air. And then

515
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 4: if you google that that is not at all ever happening.

516
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,239
Speaker 4: There's nothing about it that ionizes any air. There's no

517
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 4: way that it is the most false advertisement, and yet

518
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,639
Speaker 4: everybody ignores it. Wow, everybody just wants the pink glow

519
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 4: and they want the placebo effect of maybe it's ionizing

520
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 4: the air.

521
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's the off chance that all of science is

522
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 2: wrong and that this thing is doing its job.

523
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,679
Speaker 4: Just the off chance that it's purifying your air just

524
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 4: makes it feel that much better to have it right.

525
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 2: I've heard the same thing about plants where like you're

526
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 2: encouraged to buy them to purify the air in your

527
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 2: home and everything online. Like any expert will be like, well,

528
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 2: you would have to have literally a thousand plants in

529
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 2: a ten by ten room before that even began to

530
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 2: make a dent in the air.

531
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 4: Oh no, I have two plants. I assume that was

532
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 4: doing it.

533
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: It's not doing I assumed he was doing it. You're

534
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,880
Speaker 2: expecting too much of your plants. So you've got salt

535
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: lamp Scalore. You have how many of these massagers in

536
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:41,560
Speaker 2: your home?

537
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 4: I only have one in my home, but it's because

538
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 4: they break every nine months, so you have to get

539
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: a new one every nine months. It's Amazon. They're built

540
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 4: to last for one year, and if you use it

541
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 4: a lot, that means nine months, right.

542
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: I mean it has a lot of moving parts, it's hot,

543
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 2: it's the pieces are probably melting. It's just self destructing.

544
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 2: So that doesn't I mean, that's a huge surprise.

545
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 4: And I think they want it to break after one

546
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 4: year so that you can buy it again.

547
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 2: Right, of course they want you to keep buying. What

548
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: is that planned obsolescence? Is that? Am I saying that?

549
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 4: Right? That sounds like a disobedient child.

550
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 2: It's kind of technology. Yeah, the plan is for it

551
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 2: to break down to buy a new one.

552
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 4: I think Apple might have gotten sued for that. Yeah.

553
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 4: I think as certain things.

554
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: Like phone manufacturers are kind of the big target because

555
00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 2: they want you to buy a new phone every year

556
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:34,719
Speaker 2: or whatever.

557
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:39,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I say we start protesting that strategy in

558
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 4: the name of our environment.

559
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 2: I think that's not a bad idea. I mean, in

560
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 2: the name of me not having to buy things again.

561
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 4: But I mean, this thing is just so good I

562
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 4: have to I can't not.

563
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 2: You know, have you ever had a real Shiatsu massage?

564
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 4: Oh? The hot balls on your back?

565
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: Oh? Is that what it is? Yeah, I'm not familiar.

566
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 4: I think I have, and it's it's really hot. It's

567
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,400
Speaker 4: the one that leaves like the marks on your back.

568
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: Oh.

569
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: If it's what I'm thinking.

570
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,679
Speaker 2: Of, right, yeah, wow. Yeah. I when I go to

571
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 2: my as I mentioned, not that expensive of a massage place,

572
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 2: I tell them a combo massage. I've never had a

573
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: time massage or a Swedish massage, so I don't know

574
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 2: what either means, but I ask for the combo. I

575
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: probably should do any level of research into this, and

576
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 2: there's probably what I would actually prefer.

577
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 4: Well, you could do one and then find out what

578
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:32,639
Speaker 4: it is.

579
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to pay to find out. I want

580
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 2: to go in with the knowledge. But the combo is

581
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: just a nice riding the fence sort of thing. An hour,

582
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 2: an hour, what do you do?

583
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 4: I love an hour?

584
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, an hour feels like the perfect amount of time.

585
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 2: I'd like to push in and see how it feels

586
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: like an hour and a half. I wonder if you

587
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 2: start to be like I need this to end.

588
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:54,479
Speaker 4: Do you have a person?

589
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 2: No? Just whoever's there? Yeah, do you have a person?

590
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 4: No, they've never spoken English?

591
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh? Sure, And it's the place near your house or

592
00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: did you? Is it like just out of convenience.

593
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 4: So it's out of convenience, right, Yeah.

594
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: I tried another one near here and they had a

595
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: very dirty fish tank in the lobby and I should

596
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: have known something was going on. Yeah, and it was

597
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 2: a bad experience.

598
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 4: Wow, dirty fish tank means bad massage.

599
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 2: I feel like that's actually not a bad idea for

600
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: every business. They should have a fish tank in the

601
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 2: front and then you could tell if it's filthy or

602
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 2: if the fish are dead, this is probably a bad business,

603
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: or if it's sparkling. You're like, well that someone cares

604
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 2: about someone here.

605
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: You're right. The best business people probably clean their fish

606
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 4: tanks right regularly.

607
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: Unless they're only focusing on the fish tank and letting

608
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 2: the business fall behind.

609
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 4: The business could argue, we're so focused on our business,

610
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 4: that's why we let the fish tank fall behind.

611
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: Right Exactly, we're passionate about massage. We can't keep fish alive.

612
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's a chance, but in this

613
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: particular situation, it was a huge red flag. Yeah, okay,

614
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: so you're getting massage? Just goal or how often?

615
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,640
Speaker 4: Oh? I was treating myself once a month to a

616
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: professional massage. But since I've had old Victor Jurgen Shiatsu,

617
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 4: I haven't really needed as many professional massages.

618
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 2: How has it cut down on your massages?

619
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 4: I would say I haven't had a professional massage in

620
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:18,400
Speaker 4: six months?

621
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: Oh wow, yeah, so maybe one a year at this point.

622
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 2: How long are you using this tool? When you're using it?

623
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 4: Uh, I go, I like twenty twenty twenty five minutes?

624
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, okay.

625
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 4: But I'll transfer it over to my one leg to another.

626
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 4: Lay I'll do my feet and.

627
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 2: What are you doing?

628
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: Lay down on it.

629
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: What are you doing while this is happening? Are you

630
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 2: watching TV? Are you listening to white noise?

631
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,840
Speaker 4: Ooh, A perfect relaxing moment is just listen to white noise.

632
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 4: We're getting a massage. If you want to multitask, you

633
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 4: could talk on the phone. Right If you want to

634
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: relax while you're watching your favorite TV program mm hmm,

635
00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: I would recommend the Victor Jurgen SHOTSU during your favorite

636
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 4: television program?

637
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: What sort of TV are you watching when you've got

638
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 2: this thing running all over your body?

639
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 4: Uh? Lately? Well, it was something on Apple TV. It

640
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 4: was the spy show Oh.

641
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 2: Slow Horses. Yeah, that feels like a good relaxing I

642
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: haven't watched it, but I from what I can tell,

643
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:21,760
Speaker 2: it seems like not a ton of big thrills.

644
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: It was delightful. I'm sur I was impressed with how

645
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: good it was. I was listening to a podcast about

646
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 4: programs and this lady was saying that season two was

647
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: the best program of this year.

648
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 2: Oh, you're kidding.

649
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 4: So I enjoyed it.

650
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: But like, as far as tone goes, I've gotten the

651
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 2: impression that it's just like people like kind of low stakes.

652
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: Is that not true?

653
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 4: I mean if low stakes is an entire city blowing

654
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 4: up because of Russian.

655
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: KGB, I only deal with countries blowing up. That's I

656
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 2: mean love. That is low stakes. You've got to blow

657
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: up an entire population.

658
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 4: Main character is potentially dying or disappearing.

659
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: So it's exciting. Yeah, I guess the title is throws

660
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 2: me off Slow Horses.

661
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 4: The title probably is why it's not a more well

662
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 4: known show because I've mentioned it to people and they

663
00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 4: don't get excited about it, right, And it doesn't there's

664
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 4: no horses in the show.

665
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 2: What does slow Horses even mean?

666
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 4: You find that in the first episode that it's about

667
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 4: the people working in the UK. It's the James Bond

668
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 4: UK people, but it's the rejects, okay, and the rejects

669
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: work at a slough House, which I guess is I

670
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: don't know why it's called slough It's a part of

671
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 4: London called slough House. I'm not sure it's a street

672
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 4: called Slough, right, And so the people that didn't make

673
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: the cut or did something bad they go work at

674
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 4: slough House use and basically because they don't want to

675
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 4: fire them, they just have them go work over here. Right.

676
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: As as the crappy people, and so this is focused

677
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 4: on the people that are down and out working at

678
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: and then a few times they make the reference about

679
00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 4: being slow horses.

680
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I almost feel like slough houses would have

681
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 2: been a more exciting title.

682
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

683
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: People would have at least been like, what what are

684
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: those words? What's that combination?

685
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 4: Slow house? Or what's the name of the British agents

686
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 4: m I six? Yes? And are they call themselves m

687
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: I five?

688
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 3: Oh?

689
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 2: Wait, who calls themselves am I five? The slow courses

690
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 2: there I five? And what is am I one through four?

691
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 2: Or is that also spies? Certainly those exists, right, I

692
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 2: don't know.

693
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 4: I just are you am I six sounds correct? Am

694
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 4: I four sounds correct? Maybe m I five isn't as

695
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 4: it upgrade from m I four.

696
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 2: At least are there multiple m I s.

697
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 5: I'm looking up to see if there's the existence of

698
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 5: a one through four. But I do know that the

699
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 5: difference between five and six is five is intelligence within

700
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 5: the UK and six is international.

701
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh and James Bond, of course, he's a jet setter.

702
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: WHOA Okay, it's am I obviously doesn't stand for Mission impossible.

703
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: What does am I stand for?

704
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: Definitely could definitely stands for mission impossible.

705
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 2: It probably should. And again, speaking of changing names every

706
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 2: ten years or probably coming up on a change there,

707
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: let's change it to mission impossible. What does it mean?

708
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,439
Speaker 5: It's military intelligence.

709
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 4: So how boring.

710
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 2: I mean they should have at least done majesty majesty important. Yes,

711
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: that feels like it could have been a better title.

712
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:51,879
Speaker 4: Oh, I was just we were thinking of a better

713
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 4: title of slow horses. Is just like M I five

714
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: or like reject m I Five's.

715
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 2: Right, but I mean I feel like there was that

716
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: whole period of one twelve to twenty fifteen where it's

717
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 2: like bad moms, bad this that would have worked. Yeah,

718
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: that feels like a marketable title.

719
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,000
Speaker 4: Military intelligence British.

720
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, horrible spies.

721
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, I mean bad spies anyway, Slow horses.

722
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: Slow horses. Okay, that feels like a good.

723
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 4: Massage, massage through slow horses.

724
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm really excited to use this. I had to

725
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 2: buy a heat pad for the first time of a

726
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: couple of months ago. I like had hurt my back

727
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 2: slightly and it was just everywhere with me. Okay, and

728
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: now I mean it's wonderful feeling. Just have heat.

729
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 4: I'm amazed. I'm happy this is anything.

730
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: From that thing. So you can use this. I'm going

731
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 2: to start hurting myself more often use these tools. No,

732
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: I'm very excited about this. It's going to be all

733
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: over my body. Let's just be honest. Okay, so very exciting.

734
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: Should we get into the next thing.

735
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, the next one. That the one for you, the

736
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: one for me. This one was the one for me, okay,

737
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: because I want you to you get into it, and

738
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 4: you know you have something nearby that you might be

739
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 4: able to get into it. Also, the bird seed thing,

740
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 4: Oh led me this direction.

741
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 2: Let's see, I've got everything everything, It's back to birding.

742
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 2: This is like little pamphlets, folding pocket guide to common

743
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: backyard birds, so I don't even have to.

744
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 4: Leave my house exactly.

745
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:29,840
Speaker 2: And then Birds of Southern California Habitat Seasons, Easy Field Identification,

746
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 2: and this one's written by Greg R. Homel and the.

747
00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 4: Other one Cornell Lab of Ornithology. Right.

748
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,080
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so that was the whole team.

749
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, the whole team eBird dot org if you want

750
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 4: to check them out.

751
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: Okay, so let's get back to birds. Then.

752
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 4: I didn't intend to start with birds, but I just

753
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 4: happened to come from a bird place.

754
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: No, I think we should circle back to birds. What

755
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: is your favorite bird?

756
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 4: Well, if you become a birdwatcher, every birdwatcher has what's

757
00:36:58,280 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: called a spark bird.

758
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 2: Okay, just the.

759
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 4: Expression expression spark bird, it's it's a bird vocab. Your

760
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: spark bird is the bird that gets you into bird.

761
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:16,479
Speaker 4: You see this bird and then.

762
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 2: You're down the rabbit hole, right, And what was yours

763
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: for me?

764
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: Grants? And I was actively looking for my spark bird,

765
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 4: so it was not an accident. And I just it

766
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: was just a wonderful day in the ramble bird sanc Stuary.

767
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 4: And this British dude was sitting by a creek waiting

768
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 4: on a bird. I was like, what are you? What

769
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 4: are you looking for? He's like the first northern parula

770
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: of the year has come to Central Park and around

771
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 4: the afternoon time it comes down to this little creek

772
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,240
Speaker 4: and so I'm waiting for it to get a good photo.

773
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:52,239
Speaker 4: And I was like, northern parula, okay. And then it

774
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 4: was like multiple people started gathering, like everybody knew it

775
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 4: was going to come to the creek at like two pm,

776
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 4: and so like there's like eight people waiting there, and

777
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 4: I'm new brand noted. I'm just looking to get into Birdie.

778
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, I hope this works, you know. And so

779
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting there with these people and lo and

780
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:15,760
Speaker 4: behold this sweet, little cute, little blue and gold warbler

781
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 4: type of bird comes down to the creek and starts

782
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 4: bathing itself just as close as you are to me.

783
00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 4: Oh my god, bathing itself, you know, really doing a

784
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 4: show for us. And these two older ladies next to me,

785
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: one of them goes, oh, Doris, You'll never get to

786
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 4: see apparel this close again. This is a once in

787
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 4: a lifetime look at a Perila and her friend goes,

788
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 4: I don't know, you might get to see one this

789
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 4: close again. Nope, this is the closest you'll ever see it.

790
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 4: She's like, no, no, no, you could see peril is

791
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 4: as close.

792
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 2: That's what a physical impossibility that might happen. Again.

793
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were having just the hilarious back and forth.

794
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,280
Speaker 2: How did people know it was coming at two o'clock?

795
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: I guess you know it had arrived early to Central

796
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 4: Park because that's one of the fun things is you

797
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 4: get a wave of the whole species comes through for

798
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 4: a few days in the spring and the first of

799
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,879
Speaker 4: all the perils had arrived. And I guess three days

800
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,280
Speaker 4: in a row it had come down to this creek, wow,

801
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 4: to bathe.

802
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 2: And how did they know it's the first one? How

803
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: does any of this work? This is so mysterious to me.

804
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 2: Somebody just keeping track of like all over the park

805
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 2: looking for the bird.

806
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 4: So yeah, in the spring, that's when it gets rough.

807
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 4: That's when it's hype time, right, okay, because the all

808
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 4: the non local birds migrate through and they're in town

809
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 4: for about five days, and they all come through at

810
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 4: different times, and they all come through as like a

811
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 4: wave or a flock, I guess, but some of them

812
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 4: arrival a little early, and I guess. You know, it

813
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 4: just goes around like like the telephone game. All the

814
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: orders know what's going.

815
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: On, right, They're keeping each other updated.

816
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 4: They hear, Oh, there's the flacco the owl is in

817
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 4: Strawberry Fields right now. And then within thirty seconds, somehow

818
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,319
Speaker 4: everybody in New York City knows that Flocco is in Strawberry.

819
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 2: When something when that news breaks, are people like running

820
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: to get there.

821
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 4: There's the photographer bird people. Oh those people are running.

822
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: Wow. The different layers of birds.

823
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: The photography bird people is a whole different type of breed, right,

824
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 4: I mean they just want those sweet, sweet photos.

825
00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 2: They may not even care about the birds.

826
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: There's a few they might not. There's a few photography

827
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: guys in Central Park that just look like they're just

828
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 4: on a day job grind. Wow, they're like blue collar. Yeah,

829
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 4: we just you know, trying to get there's a great hornell. Well,

830
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 4: you know I got the I got the bunting in

831
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 4: in the Times a week ago. That was pretty good.

832
00:40:58,000 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: So they're just in it for the money.

833
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,760
Speaker 4: There, there's a couple jobbers.

834
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 2: I mean it's very paparazzi.

835
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 4: Yeah. So spark bird was my Northern parallel?

836
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 2: Can I I want to look this up? Will you

837
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: tell me how to spell in s P A r K.

838
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,720
Speaker 4: Like a spark oh parallel?

839
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 2: Yeah.

840
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,440
Speaker 4: So I've heard it pronounce northern Perula and I've heard

841
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 4: it pronounce parallel, but it's p.

842
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,400
Speaker 2: A r U l a okay, northern Okay. Oh my god,

843
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: it's so cute.

844
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:25,839
Speaker 4: That's cute little bird, right, Yeah, look at that. It's

845
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 4: a sweet, little cute, little beautiful color. It looks like

846
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 4: it could be a grandmother.

847
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, very sweet and some you know, I like a

848
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: nice little round bird.

849
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 4: It's a round bird, a little like golf ball. The

850
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 4: little the little round birds are my favorites. I like

851
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 4: shore birds, I like raptors, but you give me a

852
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 4: little round bird. That's what gets me pumped up.

853
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 2: Right, do you have a least favorite bird?

854
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 3: Uh?

855
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:53,760
Speaker 4: Least favorite bird? Blue jays have a bad rap, their bullies,

856
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,280
Speaker 4: and they make a weird sound.

857
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: Oh what sort of sound do they make?

858
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 4: They just make an ugly call, like a screech. Yeah, okay,

859
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 4: that's not my least favorite, least favorite bird. I mean,

860
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 4: I don't have I don't have the.

861
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: Least I want you to nail it down. I want

862
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,239
Speaker 2: to smear a bird.

863
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,840
Speaker 4: I guess. I guess I'll guess since I thought of

864
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 4: it first, I'll say the blue jay. They're bullies. They

865
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 4: chase away the owls and I want to see the owl.

866
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,120
Speaker 2: Wow. I mean that's incredible.

867
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 4: They have the ugly call. Do a blue jay call?

868
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 4: Pull it up.

869
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 2: Okay, let's see.

870
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 4: You're not gonna you're you're gonna be on board. When

871
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 4: you hear the blue jack jay. People think it's a crow,

872
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,760
Speaker 4: but it's a blue jaw.

873
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 2: Let's seem let's see. Okay, we've got YouTube here. Oh yeah,

874
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: a least is that it?

875
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: That's it?

876
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,320
Speaker 2: Oh and I'm getting a commercial. I'm just getting a

877
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 2: new way to play. Let's see. There you go, that's

878
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: a blue YouTube premium. Oh my god, I'm so I'm

879
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: watching a thing for Sonic the Hedgehog. I'm so mad

880
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,959
Speaker 2: all these premium so in seconds, I had another thirty

881
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,919
Speaker 2: seconds to watch this video game ad.

882
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 4: You're living in You're living in an LA mansion, and

883
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 4: you're and you're watching seven minutes of YouTube bags.

884
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 2: Well that is I mean, I appreciate a scary bird call,

885
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,479
Speaker 2: especially when that's scaring away an owl, because I feel

886
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,520
Speaker 2: like owls should be scaring away everything else.

887
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: The owls are sweet little bird they sleep beer in

888
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 4: the day, but the blue jays swarm them and they

889
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 4: want them out of there because I guess an owl

890
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 4: will occasionally, I guess maybe eat a baby blue jay.

891
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 4: Oh right, right, But blue jays have the screeching call,

892
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 4: and then they got the bullies. But they're also a

893
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: beautiful looking bluebirds.

894
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 2: So do magpies eat baby animals? Magpies, yeah, baby birds.

895
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: I feel like there's a bird that eats baby things

896
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 2: other than owls.

897
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 4: I think mongoose does. A honey badger for sure.

898
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 2: Two beautiful birds I don't know. Those are both my

899
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:03,120
Speaker 2: spark birds bad I don't know what a bird is.

900
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: That's the reveal in this podcast.

901
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 4: But California has more birds than New York, so you're

902
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 4: in a good spot.

903
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: More birds like per capita.

904
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 4: You have more species out here.

905
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, yeah, interesting, But the state's huge. Of course

906
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 2: we do. But that doesn't feel like a week.

907
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,399
Speaker 4: Well that's true.

908
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: Maybe on average.

909
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 4: I just think the West Coast has a few more

910
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 4: extra species.

911
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 2: Maybe because it's a more pleasant environment, sure, I think so.

912
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 4: Yeah.

913
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,479
Speaker 2: Do magpies steal shiny objects? Is that true?

914
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 4: Yeah? So anybody in the corvid family. You got your crows,

915
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 4: your ravens, your magpies, all those are really smart birds.

916
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 4: And there's lots of stories, of course about people giving

917
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,720
Speaker 4: them treats and then they return with treats for the person.

918
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 4: Oh I don't know that. And they've learned to bring

919
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 4: shiny objects to people. Oh yeah, And there's a story

920
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 4: about one person got a twenty dollars bill and gave

921
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 4: it an even bigger reward, and then that crow has

922
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:05,479
Speaker 4: just brought them cash over the years.

923
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 2: That can't possibly be true.

924
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,839
Speaker 4: Hey, it's on the social media. It's gotta be true.

925
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 2: This bird is stealing from people.

926
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 4: Well, I want to know if it's stealing from people,

927
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: or if there's just that much cash out in the world.

928
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 2: Or it got a job. I mean, we don't know

929
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:22,400
Speaker 2: what it's doing when it's going to get the cash.

930
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 4: That's a great point.

931
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's let's give that bird the benefit of the doubt. Okay,

932
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,800
Speaker 2: well you know magpies gets Oh my other question, and

933
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 2: you are I'm sorry to just treat you like an

934
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 2: absolute bird X the gift you certainly no more than

935
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 2: I do.

936
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 4: I brought the gifts, So I'm and I just went

937
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 4: bird watching, So it's on me.

938
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 2: This is all your fault. The category of birds you

939
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: just told me are all smart. But one of them,

940
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 2: is it the raven? That's like almost as smart as

941
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 2: a chimpanzee or something?

942
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I don't know the exact but I

943
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: know that they're shown to use tools and solve puzzles.

944
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,760
Speaker 4: Oh wow, and they recognize human faces. Can you imagine?

945
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 4: Can you imagine recognizing a raven's face?

946
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: I barely recognize human faces. I'm very bad at it.

947
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 4: The ravens and the crows will remember you specifically.

948
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

949
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 4: That's they'll be able to call you out in the crowd.

950
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 4: Out in the crowd, caw. Wow.

951
00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:22,200
Speaker 2: That's uh. We should use them for uh something.

952
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 4: Military sorry, pro military podcast.

953
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: I'm always looking for new ways to kind of do war.

954
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 2: And so if we could get more birds, I mean war,

955
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: I'm very pro war, but regardless of you know, I'll

956
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: go to war for anything. Yeah, I mean, even if

957
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: it's just to get more birds working. I think that's

958
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 2: the number one reason I want.

959
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 4: To go to the economy going yes, yeah, I mean.

960
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 2: Carrier pigeons were used during.

961
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, apparently like one hundred thousand of them, one hundred thousand.

962
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: There was a carrier pigeon that got a purple heart

963
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 4: World War One?

964
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 2: What do you know its name? How do you know

965
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 2: this and not know the bird's name? Get on this maybe,

966
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 2: I mean it might have been part of the time

967
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 2: when people didn't care.

968
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,920
Speaker 4: I want to say a one hundred thousand caro pisions

969
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 4: were used during World War One. Wow. Can you imagine

970
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 4: instead of using a telephone, you just gotta just fly

971
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 4: to your bird I.

972
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 2: Wonder how, Yeah, like, what are the chances that actually

973
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 2: gets to its destination? They must be decent, but they

974
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 2: can't be great.

975
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 4: I want to say they would send like three with

976
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 4: the same note and then hopefully one gets through.

977
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:33,360
Speaker 2: Wow, I would I want there to be a study

978
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 2: on the efficiency of that compared to throwing a message

979
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 2: in a bottle into the ocean, which is the better

980
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 2: form of communication.

981
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,360
Speaker 4: I was ignorant for a long time. I was like,

982
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: how does the pigeon know where it's supposed to go?

983
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 2: I mean.

984
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:54,719
Speaker 4: That it's got to fly to Germany to a specific

985
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: guy in Germany? What is happening here? And finally I

986
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 4: learned that they are specifically returning to their home. Oh,

987
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 4: so you have to raise you basically have to raise

988
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 4: a pigeon in this military base, right, and then you

989
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 4: have to take it with you out into war flying home.

990
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 2: Okay, So it's not gonna be able to come back.

991
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 4: So I don't think it can come back. Oh okay,

992
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: but this, you know, I have limited knowledge on that,

993
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 4: but I do know that they're flying. They're good at

994
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:25,800
Speaker 4: flying home.

995
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 2: Good at flying home?

996
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 4: Well is that what they're called?

997
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 3: Oh?

998
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:31,400
Speaker 4: Interesting?

999
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:34,680
Speaker 2: Interesting? That makes sense.

1000
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:37,399
Speaker 4: They're really good at flying home and if you want

1001
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:40,279
Speaker 4: to do some extracurriculars. They still don't know for sure

1002
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 4: why birds are so good at Like you could put

1003
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 4: a bird in a black box and take it from

1004
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 4: its home and take it to the other side of

1005
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 4: the world and it would You could let it out

1006
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 4: of the box and it would fly right back home.

1007
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: It would be able to at least try, like some of.

1008
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 4: Them are good at just going right back home. And

1009
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 4: they're like, we do not know how it's figuring out

1010
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 4: where to go. Wow, So something about like they could

1011
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: have sensors for a magnetic field. It's right, I mean,

1012
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 4: there's possibilities, but they actually don't know for sure how

1013
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 4: they're done it.

1014
00:49:14,960 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 2: And what a psycho experiment to do this to birds,

1015
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: putting them in a black box across the world and

1016
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: be like, let's see what happens. Show us your stuff.

1017
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,840
Speaker 2: That's wild. That can't be allowed anymore.

1018
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 4: If you put a human in a black box and

1019
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 4: took them the other side of the world, I wouldn't

1020
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 4: make it one hundred yards.

1021
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,399
Speaker 2: That's the amazing race as far as I know. Yeah,

1022
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:39,880
Speaker 2: I've watched a little bit of that show and had

1023
00:49:39,880 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 2: a good time.

1024
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 4: Is that the one with your spouse?

1025
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's like with a partner. Sometimes it's a couple. Actually, yeah,

1026
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,920
Speaker 2: I think they might have themes. I feel like sometimes

1027
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 2: it's like a parent and a child and then you

1028
00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 2: just watch them fight with each other.

1029
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 4: How many divorces happen on TV?

1030
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,560
Speaker 2: I mean countless. The amazing race has probably destroyed so

1031
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: many homes. Yeah, just ruined lives. Okay, Well, so I'll

1032
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: take these little things with me to Deb's Earnesty Debs

1033
00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 2: Park and then I just wait around.

1034
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:11,239
Speaker 3: You.

1035
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 4: You can go on a walk, right, Walking's part of it,

1036
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 4: and then you just keep your eyes open for birds

1037
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,840
Speaker 4: a little. It's like it's like adding a little treasure

1038
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 4: hunt to your walk.

1039
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a nice way of looking at it.

1040
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 4: And really you want to just stare at the bird,

1041
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 4: take the bird in and remember the bird, and then

1042
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 4: later you want to come back to this little pamphlet

1043
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,920
Speaker 4: and be like, what was that bird?

1044
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: Oh, rather than rather.

1045
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 4: Than looking down at the pammeblet, looking back up at

1046
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 4: the bird, because by the time you look back up,

1047
00:50:40,560 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 4: bird's gonna be gone.

1048
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 2: Well, I want to see a spotted towhee. That's a

1049
00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 2: gorgeous little bird. Ye, and maybe that'll be my spark bird.

1050
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: We like the bullocks oriole Oh.

1051
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: If you can see a bullock's oriel, I mean that's

1052
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 4: a good that's a good week.

1053
00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:05,320
Speaker 2: That thing is pure gold, a gorgeous animal bird. H Okay,

1054
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: well I'm going to use these. I'm going to try.

1055
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 2: I don't need binoculars at least to start.

1056
00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:10,360
Speaker 3: No on that.

1057
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 4: On that hike, I went on, you get a lot

1058
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 4: of birds that will just hop along the trail or

1059
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 4: sit down and branches close by. Binoculars help though, But

1060
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 4: but but I don't want to put pressure on you

1061
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 4: to get binoculars. Right.

1062
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: Well, that could be the next Hopefully.

1063
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,359
Speaker 4: Somebody will bring you binoculars as a gift.

1064
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 2: Someone brought me binoculars, but it's a hidden flask, so

1065
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 2: it's not a binocular. So that's but we're getting closer,

1066
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,280
Speaker 2: we're inching towards.

1067
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 4: You could definitely get drunk on the automate track.

1068
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,359
Speaker 2: I could just stumble around the park looking for birds.

1069
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 4: And unfortunately you won't have real binoculars.

1070
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: Screaming that I want to see the towhee. Okay, well,

1071
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 2: this is wonderful, thank you. I think we should play

1072
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 2: a game. Okay, we're playing Gift for a Curse right

1073
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 2: on a Lise. I love just the con information from

1074
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: on a Lease that I'm doing the right thing. You

1075
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 2: need that sometimes you need that little bit of support.

1076
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,640
Speaker 2: I need a number between one and ten from you.

1077
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 4: Am I trying to trick you? No, I mean if

1078
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: you want to, well, I guess I'm telling you the numbers,

1079
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 4: so it's not much of a trick.

1080
00:52:18,320 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 2: Any number between one and ten. We go with three, okay,

1081
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 2: I have I'm using that to do some calculating to

1082
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 2: get our game pieces. So right now you can promote something,

1083
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,319
Speaker 2: recommend something, do whatever you want with the microphone. I'll

1084
00:52:28,320 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: be right back.

1085
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 4: Well, I'm in La partly to promote my new comedy special,

1086
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 4: which is out now for free on YouTube. If you

1087
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 4: have YouTube Premium so Analise can watch it for free,

1088
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,359
Speaker 4: You're gonna have to watch it with ads. It's called

1089
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 4: Cult Classic, and I apologize because I know you're tired

1090
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 4: of could stuff. It's called cult Classic. I talk a

1091
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: little bit at the end about Vinixium Cult Documentary, and

1092
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,399
Speaker 4: I do some aff I do some positive affirmations where

1093
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 4: I sort of feel like a cult leader at one point.

1094
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 4: But I'm sorry to offend you so deeply with something

1095
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:09,800
Speaker 4: that you have to watch ads for and it's about cults.

1096
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: Hor you don't support YouTube, you don't support anything involving cults. Here,

1097
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 4: I am trying to start a new cult with my

1098
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,239
Speaker 4: comedy special and you're just against it from the get go.

1099
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 2: No, you're the last word. You're the last word on cults.

1100
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 2: Let's say that.

1101
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 4: No, I'm not pro cults, and the Comedy Specials is

1102
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 4: probably more about birds and it is about cults. For

1103
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 4: being honest, there's really little. There's not that much to do.

1104
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 4: The cult classic was supposed to be a reference to

1105
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 4: the movies that are cult classics, right. I was thinking

1106
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: this would this comedy special would get off to a

1107
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 4: slow start and then catch Team Leader. Is more of

1108
00:53:48,440 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 4: my attitude that it's.

1109
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 2: A good expectation for anything.

1110
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 4: Thank you.

1111
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: Just imagine it'll be a cult classic and then it

1112
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,000
Speaker 2: becomes a blockbuster. Change the name, and.

1113
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 4: If it becomes a slow start, you can be like, well,

1114
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: it's good. It's got legs.

1115
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:02,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's got legs. And when things have legs,

1116
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,799
Speaker 2: people talk about that all the time. This thing has mate,

1117
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 2: it's got great legs. It's going forever.

1118
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, it didn't jump out of the game, but it's

1119
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 4: got legs.

1120
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 2: Because it's good and people appreciate it.

1121
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 4: That's right.

1122
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,879
Speaker 2: Well, it says Princess Bride is one Shashank Redemption. Wait,

1123
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 2: Shoshank Redemption is considered a cult not a cult classic,

1124
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 2: Isn't it certainly not? Well you wish like a cult

1125
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1126
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:28,319
Speaker 4: But Shank hit right off the gate.

1127
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 2: That seems like it would have been a big hit.

1128
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,280
Speaker 2: It seems like as a big as big movie stars.

1129
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 4: Here's one for it. It's a wonderful life. Wasn't considered

1130
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 4: a success until thirty years after it came out.

1131
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,359
Speaker 2: Oh no, so that's just a full bomb.

1132
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 4: That's true.

1133
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,760
Speaker 2: If you go thirty years, Yeah, people have forgotten.

1134
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 4: If you go thirty years, if not successful at that point,

1135
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 4: you've just like died.

1136
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 2: Yeah exactly. Everyone involved is probably dead, dead and sad

1137
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 2: about it. Yeah. I feel like for it to become

1138
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 2: a cult classic, at least one person has to be

1139
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 2: alive when it becomes successful.

1140
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, Okay, the Fight Club is considered a cult class.

1141
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 2: Oh that's true. That's yeah. Now I feel like it's

1142
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 2: become such a thing that. Yeah, what happens when something

1143
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:09,279
Speaker 2: becomes such a big part of culture that it no

1144
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:13,720
Speaker 2: longer feels cultish. That's I mean, we ask important questions.

1145
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, we need, we need, we need a new word,

1146
00:55:16,760 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 4: a new English word for a late blockbuster.

1147
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, interesting, Well whatever, we've got to play the game.

1148
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,919
Speaker 2: I have to I have to recommend. Well, this isn't

1149
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:32,520
Speaker 2: even a recommendation. I've been told certainly, well not certainly.

1150
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 2: It was actually a nice email that the network wants

1151
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,479
Speaker 2: me to read to your listener. And it says, feel

1152
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 2: free to put in your own words, but I don't

1153
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:39,480
Speaker 2: want to do that. This will I'll just read it

1154
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: to you. It says, if you listen to I said

1155
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 2: no gifts. On the Apple Podcasts app there are a

1156
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: few changes with the new iOS seventeen update. Apple has

1157
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: paused downloads on podcasts. If your phone is running out

1158
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 2: of storage, or if you haven't listened in a while,

1159
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:53,800
Speaker 2: be sure there's available space so you can continue to

1160
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: receive weekly episodes and listen regularly so you don't miss

1161
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,840
Speaker 2: new shows. Head over to Apple Podcasts and click the

1162
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 2: follow but get your phone cleaned up. Well, that that

1163
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:07,879
Speaker 2: feels judgmental and new episodes will be automatically downloaded each week.

1164
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 2: So I guess that's just some business business about phones

1165
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: and updating.

1166
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,440
Speaker 4: And I'm a Spotify boy. So that went all right

1167
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 4: over my head.

1168
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 2: You could barely understand what I was saying. There's another language. Wow.

1169
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 2: So the thing I recommend this week is just tech advice.

1170
00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean, horrible, horrible feeling. This is how we play

1171
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 2: Gift or a Curse. I'm gonna name three things. You're

1172
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 2: gonna tell me if there're a gift or a curse

1173
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 2: and why, and I'll tell you if you're right or wrong.

1174
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:38,319
Speaker 2: Because there are correct answers, you can lose the game.

1175
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: This sort of thing. Okay, This first one is a

1176
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 2: listener suggestion from someone named Diana. Gift or a Curse,

1177
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 2: alcohol free listerine, Sir.

1178
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:50,720
Speaker 4: I was just feeling bad because I had plugged accidentally,

1179
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: said Spotify, and maybe this was an Apple It's not okay.

1180
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 2: It's this podcast everywhere?

1181
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 4: Okay? Cool? I mean I didn't want to like hurt

1182
00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 4: your Apple sponsorship.

1183
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 2: No, I wish Apple reach out. No, this is available.

1184
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 2: You know, we always do the ads where you have

1185
00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: to be like wherever you get your podcasts, which is. Yeah,

1186
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:11,839
Speaker 2: I guess there are a billion different places to get

1187
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 2: a point.

1188
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 4: Well a billion, I don't know what a billion.

1189
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to fight about it, I'm happy to.

1190
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 2: I'm in a bad mood. You like war, I do

1191
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,120
Speaker 2: like war. I'm very violent.

1192
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 4: So the game is somebody writes in a thing.

1193
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:26,560
Speaker 3: Uh.

1194
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 2: Most of these are listener suggestions at this point, just

1195
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 2: a list of things. You have to tell me if

1196
00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 2: it's a gift or a curse and why?

1197
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 4: Is there a correct answer?

1198
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 2: Yes, okay, you weren't listening to me at all.

1199
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 4: No, I wasn't. I was worried about saying spotacy.

1200
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 2: Well I appreciate that. Okay, So, but you understand the

1201
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 2: rules of the game. Now you're going to tell me

1202
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,080
Speaker 2: if it's a gift or a curse and why, and

1203
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 2: I'll tell you if you're right or wrong.

1204
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: And there's a correct answer. I'm not supposed to make

1205
00:57:56,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 4: up my own answer.

1206
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 2: You have to.

1207
00:57:57,400 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 4: You have to.

1208
00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 2: I'm not telling you anything else. You just have to

1209
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 2: give me your answer.

1210
00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: This first thing is feeling I'm gonna lose this game.

1211
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 2: I don't know. You might win, all right, there's only

1212
00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: a few people have wonky, Okay, So Diana. The listener

1213
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 2: has written in and suggested gift or a curse alcohol

1214
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: free listerine.

1215
00:58:19,120 --> 00:58:22,520
Speaker 4: Call free listerine. I'm gonna say it's a it's a

1216
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 4: curse to the people that are addicted to the listerine

1217
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 4: alcohol or curse to the alcoholics. It's a gift to

1218
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 4: the pharmacies they don't have to worry about their listerine

1219
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:32,120
Speaker 4: being stolen.

1220
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: But for you, what is your final answer?

1221
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's a bit of a catch twenty two.

1222
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,520
Speaker 4: There's no listerine without alcohol. That's that's what's burning off

1223
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 4: the The bad stuff is the alcohol. So I'm gonna

1224
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 4: say alcohol free listerine is not listerine, and therefore it's

1225
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 4: curse wrong. This is who me?

1226
00:58:56,800 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 2: Okay, the person who's right?

1227
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 4: Well, now I know, now I know who has the

1228
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:01,680
Speaker 4: correct answers.

1229
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,920
Speaker 2: It's again I change. Look, do I like it?

1230
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:05,120
Speaker 3: No?

1231
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 2: I need the alcohol burning my teeth and my gums

1232
00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 2: and my tongue to know. But you know, I guess

1233
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 2: some people don't want alcohol in their listerine. They're giving

1234
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:14,960
Speaker 2: them options.

1235
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 4: Well, then you're just drinking mint water.

1236
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: Well, sometimes you just need some mint water, and maybe

1237
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 2: it's better to swallow, drink a whole thing of that.

1238
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 2: Then you know your your whole throat smells better.

1239
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 4: We have some herbal mint tea. Why are you messing

1240
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 4: around with listerine? You can have herbal mint tea.

1241
00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 2: Because you've bought the story, that's why. And now we've

1242
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 2: got options for the whole family. Okay, can children drink

1243
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 2: alcohol the stine? Well, you're not drinking that, You're you're

1244
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: swishing it around.

1245
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 4: I think it's bad for their little mouths.

1246
00:59:42,800 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it probably burns a little mouse. Okay, so you

1247
00:59:46,120 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: have got you got one wrong so far, and that's fine.

1248
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 2: Number two this is from someone named Nikolai. Gift your

1249
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: curse when people try to talk to you while taking

1250
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: care of business in a public restroom.

1251
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 4: Oh, obviously, a curse is the best friend. Why. I

1252
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 4: want privacy when I use the restroom, and the opposite

1253
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:15,560
Speaker 4: of privacy is somebody talking to me in the same

1254
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:16,200
Speaker 4: room as me.

1255
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 2: So you're saying curse, I'm saying curse. You obviously get

1256
01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:25,240
Speaker 2: the point is a curse. No, it's weird to me

1257
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 2: that people that anyone enjoys doing that, like and sometimes

1258
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 2: you know people I know and have loved for years

1259
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:33,920
Speaker 2: will see a movie and then we both use the

1260
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 2: restroom after and they start talking to me, and it's

1261
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 2: it just makes me think, Oh, we are such different people.

1262
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 2: I don't want to say a word. I just need

1263
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 2: to be left alone.

1264
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:46,919
Speaker 4: They want they want to talk about the movie, probably right.

1265
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,640
Speaker 2: They want to sometimes not even a movie, they just

1266
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 2: want to talk about something, and I can't focus. Yeah,

1267
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: I'm thinking about all kinds of things. I'm thinking about

1268
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 2: using the bathroom, I'm thinking about whatever they're saying. And

1269
01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 2: I'm also thinking about why them talking to me using

1270
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 2: the restaurant. Yea, So my mind is everywhere.

1271
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 4: Probably hurts the friendship.

1272
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, it's certainly like the trust is eroded. Certainly. Okay, well,

1273
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 2: you've gotten one so far. You have one more to try. Here,

1274
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 2: let's see here. What wait, what have I done with

1275
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 2: the document? I've destroyed the document. This is you know,

1276
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: this is a rough version of this game, and this

1277
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 2: is my faults. It's okay, here we go. Oh this

1278
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: is interesting. This is kind of related to what we

1279
01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 2: just said. This is from a listener named Ali Gift

1280
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 2: to a curse assigned movie theater seating.

1281
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:39,040
Speaker 4: But well in the assigned movie theater is seating. You

1282
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 4: get to pick your seats right right, So you're assigning

1283
01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:42,640
Speaker 4: it to yourself.

1284
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 2: Yes, it's a little self assignment.

1285
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 4: I you know what I've done both. The assigned seating

1286
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 4: sounds nice, but I like just finding my seats. I

1287
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 4: like finding the assigned setting is just one more button

1288
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 4: you gotta click on your way to and in a movie.

1289
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 4: I want less friction to get into my movie. So

1290
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, curse.

1291
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 2: Oh, what a horrible way to end the game. It's

1292
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: a gift. There's nothing wrong with that. I it's incredible

1293
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,360
Speaker 2: showing up to a movie theater and having to stand

1294
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 2: in line and then having to panic the rush to

1295
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: find a seat, and then who knows what's going to happen.

1296
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,360
Speaker 2: That feels like, I mean, when are you going into

1297
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 2: a movie theater you can't find barbaric?

1298
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: When have you ever not found a seat?

1299
01:02:29,960 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 2: Yeah? But when you like, when it gets to desperate,

1300
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 2: you're in front row.

1301
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, on a sign seating you can get front row too.

1302
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 2: Not if you've use like ten seconds of a day

1303
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 2: and just think ahead.

1304
01:02:41,160 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 4: You're saying you go on earlier that day.

1305
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, what you're getting on this thing? Right

1306
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 2: before you head to the theater.

1307
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 4: I do it the same way I do without the

1308
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 4: assigned seating, and do it last moment.

1309
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 2: Well that's the problem, okay.

1310
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,520
Speaker 4: I like that you're thinking ahead and you're planning ahead,

1311
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 4: and you're getting the good seats, so you want.

1312
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't do a lot of planning ahead or

1313
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 2: thinking ahead, but this, to me is fairly easy to do.

1314
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 2: And then I'm calm and I get to go and

1315
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: be in an at least kind of decent seat. But

1316
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: I guess I could see why people wouldn't like it.

1317
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 2: Well not, Actually I can't, and I'm not gonna I'm

1318
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Speaker 2: not gonna back up on this. I think that they

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01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: should all be assigned seating.

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Speaker 4: I've just never gone into a movie theater and been

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01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 4: unhappy with the scene I got.

1322
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 2: Wow, incredible. Maybe that's because you have standards. Maybe you

1323
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: need to treat yourself better.

1324
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:29,440
Speaker 4: Not a bad seat in the house. That's what I

1325
01:03:29,520 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 4: say every single theater I go to it. There's not

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01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 4: a bad scene in this house. You can be in

1327
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,880
Speaker 4: the way back, you're still getting a great view.

1328
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 2: Do you know what I think? One reason I like

1329
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: assigned movie theater seating is that Utah, where I'm from,

1330
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:48,280
Speaker 2: started this sort of thing very early on. I think

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01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: it was one of the Earth, so I think we

1332
01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: were all conditioned to assigned theater seating. So I it's

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01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 2: just an It comes very naturally to me. And you

1334
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 2: were just in Utah, just in Salt Lake City. Was

1335
01:03:59,000 --> 01:03:59,840
Speaker 2: it your first time there.

1336
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 4: I've been a couple of times to Salt Lake City.

1337
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 4: I got to open for Nate Bargazzi at the Utah

1338
01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,640
Speaker 4: Jazz Arena.

1339
01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: So you're kidding me. The ten thousand cedar that used

1340
01:04:10,360 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: to be called the Delta Center, it's the Delta Center.

1341
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,000
Speaker 2: It's back to the Delta Center. It was like a

1342
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 2: nuclear waste facility center at one point.

1343
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 4: It's apparently it's back to the Delta Center.

1344
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:24,720
Speaker 2: It's called the Energy Solutions Arena's back to Delta. Good.

1345
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, great. And met Dorny Ainge, the manager, the general

1346
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:32,640
Speaker 4: manager of the Utah Jazz Wow. I met Spencer Cox,

1347
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 4: the governor of Utah. Oh my boy. I hung out

1348
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 4: twice at Spencer Cock.

1349
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 2: You have the other place.

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01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 4: He came out to a show. I did a Wise

1351
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 4: Guys in Jordan Landing. I had fried chicken with him

1352
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 4: at the Governor's mansion.

1353
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 2: As far as I know, I'm not on board with

1354
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 2: Spencer Cox.

1355
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 4: I've heard that he's a liberal moderate conservative.

1356
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 2: Is that well, I don't like the sound of that.

1357
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 2: That's nothing.

1358
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:03,680
Speaker 4: But he's a sweet man. I don't know it's politics.

1359
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: But you're having fried chicken with him.

1360
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 4: I think you might like his I think you might

1361
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 4: like his politics. I think he's one of those conservatives

1362
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 4: that's like, very very pro stuff.

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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 2: Okay, like, Spencer, don't reach out. I'm not going to

1364
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: look into.

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01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 4: My boy, Spencer reach out.

1366
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 2: Wow, you've You've just hit a lot of Utah spots

1367
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:27,280
Speaker 2: that I'm familiar with. That's very interesting.

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01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jordan Landing Utah Jazz stayed at the I can't

1369
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 4: remember the name. Sorry, nice the nice hotel near the airport.

1370
01:05:38,320 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 2: Not far from the airport was the Grand America.

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01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:41,040
Speaker 4: Yes, that one.

1372
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 2: Oh, that place is beautiful, beutiful. Once I had a

1373
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,760
Speaker 2: friend who worked there as like a bellboy or whatever.

1374
01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,880
Speaker 2: This was fifteen years ago, and he led us into

1375
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: the room of like an NBA coaches, like an opposing

1376
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,720
Speaker 2: team was there and the NBA coaches staying in that room.

1377
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,439
Speaker 2: And we went into the room while he is there,

1378
01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:01,920
Speaker 2: which feels illegal.

1379
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 4: Wow.

1380
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 2: So that's just something about the Grand America. Uh, that's

1381
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:07,680
Speaker 2: an interesting fact.

1382
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 4: Do you you from Salt Lake?

1383
01:06:09,400 --> 01:06:13,080
Speaker 2: I'm from right outside of Salt Lake. Which South Jordan.

1384
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 4: Which South Jordan?

1385
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 2: Yes, because Jordan Landing is West Jordan.

1386
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 4: Nice South Jordan.

1387
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: All right, a lot of Utah geography. But you've only

1388
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:22,680
Speaker 2: been to Utah twice.

1389
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:28,400
Speaker 4: I've been. I've been four or five times.

1390
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 2: Oh wow, you're hooked.

1391
01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like it.

1392
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 2: And you've seen Spencer two out of five times.

1393
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 4: I've seen Spencer three times. Oh no, I wrote in

1394
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 4: the Governor's I wrote in a security Vehicle life.

1395
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 2: What is your relationship to Spencer Cox?

1396
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 4: Close personal friends? We've onund out three times, close personal friends.

1397
01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 4: He told me the story about he was in charge

1398
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 4: of You remember when COVID hit. The day COVID hit

1399
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 4: and it was the Utah Jazz fault. You remember that?

1400
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 3: Know what?

1401
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 4: Remember the first time COVID went, like March twelfth, it

1402
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 4: was a big itk became a big deal in the US.

1403
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1404
01:07:07,680 --> 01:07:11,240
Speaker 4: It was when Rudy Gobert for the Utah Jazz touched

1405
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 4: a bunch of microphones, was making a joke about COVID.

1406
01:07:13,920 --> 01:07:15,120
Speaker 2: Oh, I forgot about that.

1407
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,040
Speaker 4: And then it turned out he did have COVID and

1408
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 4: he gave it to his teammates and then and then

1409
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 4: his teammate was real who they already didn't like each other,

1410
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 4: got COVID and then they wouldn't even speak to each other.

1411
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 4: And this was the moment, like March twelfth, when it

1412
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,120
Speaker 4: was like, okay, maybe it's a problem. Right, we're canceling NBA,

1413
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 4: We're canceling the NBA and uh. And then they had

1414
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 4: to they were at an away game that was an

1415
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,440
Speaker 4: away game that they got COVID, and so they had

1416
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 4: to fly back to Utah, and nobody wanted to fly

1417
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 4: them back, like because they had COVID, which might have

1418
01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:55,160
Speaker 4: all been the plague. I'm surprised. I never thought about

1419
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,800
Speaker 4: driving back. But uh, Spencer Cox was the one who

1420
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 4: had the organ and eye them on two different airplanes alone.

1421
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,960
Speaker 4: They flew alone on two different airplanes because they wouldn't

1422
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 4: fly together.

1423
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: Wow, waste of money.

1424
01:08:11,200 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 4: And they had to find two pilots that were willing

1425
01:08:13,680 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 4: to do it. Wow, And they got it somehow got

1426
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 4: them back to Salt Lake City that was ground zero.

1427
01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: Wow.

1428
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:22,960
Speaker 4: But he was apparently in charge of that hold the

1429
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 4: boggle before he was governor.

1430
01:08:26,360 --> 01:08:27,679
Speaker 2: That's when he was a travel agent.

1431
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, he was a Delta pilot.

1432
01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 2: Okay, uh, you basically lost the game one out of three.

1433
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:39,280
Speaker 4: You're just mad at me because I'm boys of Spencer Cox.

1434
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: And you're blaming the Jazz for all of these things.

1435
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 2: Those are my boys, that's jazz. I was a big

1436
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 2: Jazz fan in sixth grade. Probably they were like very

1437
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,320
Speaker 2: good at one point, and I was happy with him.

1438
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:53,920
Speaker 2: Then I need to get back into it though.

1439
01:08:54,240 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 4: That was during Carl Malone days.

1440
01:08:55,800 --> 01:09:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and John Johnson stocked and losing to Michael Oh. Yes,

1441
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 2: just constantly smashed by the Chicago Bulls.

1442
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 4: But that is a good time, good.

1443
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:10,160
Speaker 2: Time, very good time. We need to answer a listener question.

1444
01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:12,800
Speaker 2: This is the final segment of the podcast. It's called

1445
01:09:13,040 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 2: I said no emails. People write in, they've got questions.

1446
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 2: We answer them. Every one of my listeners' lives is

1447
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 2: absolutely perfect. But they write in anyway because they need

1448
01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:24,360
Speaker 2: to support the podcast, and that's why they do it.

1449
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 2: So we answer their questions.

1450
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:26,719
Speaker 4: Beautiful.

1451
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 2: These their lives are beautiful. We help me answer a question. Sure, Okay,

1452
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:34,640
Speaker 2: this is hybridger and guest and on a lease, I

1453
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:36,439
Speaker 2: have a pet peeve, and I'd like you to tell

1454
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: me if I'm being unreasonable. It really annoys me when

1455
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: someone is a native English speaker and currently speaking English

1456
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,560
Speaker 2: but randomly says certain words like you would in the

1457
01:09:44,640 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 2: original language, slash, accent or the or their interpretation of

1458
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:52,840
Speaker 2: the original language. A few examples, and now it's actually

1459
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:56,479
Speaker 2: I'm warning everyone I have to pronounce these words like

1460
01:09:56,520 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 2: they want me to, So I apologize Mexico instead of

1461
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: just Mexico, cross croissant instead of just croissant, and mozzarel

1462
01:10:08,400 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 2: instead of just mozzarella. I feel so uncomfortable even doing that.

1463
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 2: I mean, it's excruciating to clarify I am not including

1464
01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,320
Speaker 2: when people are speaking any of these languages or are

1465
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:21,880
Speaker 2: native speakers of these languages. Am I unreasonable to let

1466
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 2: this annoy me? Thank you for your advice, Amy, What

1467
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 2: do we think it annoys?

1468
01:10:28,240 --> 01:10:28,880
Speaker 4: It annoys me?

1469
01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is what I'm going to say to begin,

1470
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 2: at least to open the conversation. Amy is absolutely being unreasonable,

1471
01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:37,639
Speaker 2: and I support her.

1472
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:42,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, because basically she's saying, you got to be American,

1473
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 4: you got to talk American, and be American.

1474
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:49,080
Speaker 2: I mean this, it's obviously an unreasonable response to someone

1475
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: just pronouncing a word correctly. But everyone I've ever known

1476
01:10:52,479 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 2: that's done it was a deeply annoying person. Yes, why

1477
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:57,679
Speaker 2: are we saying quissant?

1478
01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:58,679
Speaker 4: And or the president?

1479
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 2: I'll just the way the president does.

1480
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:04,480
Speaker 4: That's not the last president, but the Democratic presidents.

1481
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,839
Speaker 2: The Democratic president currently.

1482
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 4: They any any any word that's that's from a different culture,

1483
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 4: they'll pronounce it in the correct way.

1484
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 2: Okay, because I guess that's kind of maybe as a politician. Politician, yeah,

1485
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: a worldwide figure, you kind of have to world But

1486
01:11:21,040 --> 01:11:23,799
Speaker 2: if you're like ordering something off the menu at Chipotle

1487
01:11:24,479 --> 01:11:27,479
Speaker 2: and you're really going for the pronunciation, unless you're a

1488
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,439
Speaker 2: native speaker of the language, it feels like you're doing

1489
01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: too much work on at least that's how you're feeling.

1490
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 5: Yes, Although my biggest gripe is inconsistency. I used to

1491
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 5: be a manager of a lapanqu in Brentwood, Okay, right,

1492
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 5: and I know that these people who are bending over

1493
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 5: backwards to say quassant are not sayingthilla and that he

1494
01:11:49,200 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 5: feels extremely racist. So to me, if the person is

1495
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:55,600
Speaker 5: being very consistent acrossible, like I want to meet the

1496
01:11:55,680 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 5: person who is saying who nails everyone yeah and mazar,

1497
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:02,920
Speaker 5: that person does not exist.

1498
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:05,439
Speaker 2: They only will do it for French words. And that's

1499
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:08,760
Speaker 2: the thing that pisses me off. So good point, excellent point.

1500
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,519
Speaker 2: I mean, and it's also confusing because we'll say things

1501
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,360
Speaker 2: like keesadia, which is pretty close to the pronunciation, but

1502
01:12:14,400 --> 01:12:17,120
Speaker 2: then other Spanish words we don't.

1503
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:18,560
Speaker 4: But we know.

1504
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: I think we all know the sort of person we're

1505
01:12:20,520 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: talking about here that went to France once and is

1506
01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 2: suddenly the expert on one pastry.

1507
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:29,519
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't. I don't have a person in

1508
01:12:29,640 --> 01:12:34,280
Speaker 4: my life that says croissant. I know they're out there,

1509
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,000
Speaker 4: they are out there.

1510
01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,320
Speaker 2: Are they out there? Oh, they're certainly out there. I'm

1511
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,320
Speaker 2: there's someone in your life and they're gonna start talking

1512
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,320
Speaker 2: to you in the bathroom and they're gonna say quessant

1513
01:12:42,439 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 2: and you're gonna be shocked about the whole interaction.

1514
01:12:45,160 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, So what are the main I would

1515
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,760
Speaker 4: be curious what the main words are that are the

1516
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 4: top annoying words?

1517
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,679
Speaker 2: Is just croissant, that's definitely. I think that's probably number one.

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: I mean, when you're saying Mexico. That feels wild. Yeah,

1519
01:12:58,960 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: I mean, because it's just like what I mean unless people. Yeah,

1520
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:08,880
Speaker 2: and again it's this exact person. Uh and Mozarell. I

1521
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 2: don't even know if I'm pronouncing that. I mean, I'm

1522
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: not Italian. It's horrifying. I mean, Amy, Yes, you're being unreasonable.

1523
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 2: We're all being unreasonable. It's just the way people pronounce words.

1524
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: But they need to cut it out.

1525
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:26,680
Speaker 4: They need to speak speak, learn Americ. You know what

1526
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,120
Speaker 4: I'm saying.

1527
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 2: I mean, this is and this will be the final

1528
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: word if we don't have to keep talking about this.

1529
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: But think about some French person is not cutting out

1530
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:37,200
Speaker 2: their accent to say hamburger. You know, they're not hitting

1531
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:40,120
Speaker 2: a hard hamburger. They're gonna They're still saying it with

1532
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:40,920
Speaker 2: a French accent.

1533
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're saying cheeseburger royal.

1534
01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 2: Yes exactly. Amy, You've gotten your answer. I feel like

1535
01:13:51,640 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 2: we answered that perfectly.

1536
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're with you, Amy, We're with you, Amy, and.

1537
01:13:55,680 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 2: We're against And again this goes back to my kind

1538
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: of pro war thing. I'm looking spark more war. So

1539
01:14:01,880 --> 01:14:02,479
Speaker 2: we've answered the.

1540
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:04,599
Speaker 4: Question a very offended right now.

1541
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're freaking out they're taking up arms.

1542
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,759
Speaker 4: I was a person that's like I also said, Totilla,

1543
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:13,160
Speaker 4: you don't know me.

1544
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 2: Wow, I've gotten these beautiful gifts, useful gifts. They could

1545
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:22,360
Speaker 2: change everything for me.

1546
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:23,400
Speaker 4: It's the holiday season.

1547
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 2: Bless you. I've had such a wonderful time with you

1548
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,680
Speaker 2: here me as well. This is the end of the podcast.

1549
01:14:30,240 --> 01:14:32,680
Speaker 2: Thank you for being here, Joe. Listener, go find a

1550
01:14:32,720 --> 01:14:35,800
Speaker 2: special and listener to the podcast. I think I just

1551
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 2: said is over. So I hope you heard me the

1552
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 2: first time. Get out of here. I love you, goodbye.

1553
01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,800
Speaker 2: I said. No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's

1554
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:52,120
Speaker 2: produced by our dear friend Analise Neilson, and it's beautifully

1555
01:14:52,160 --> 01:14:54,920
Speaker 2: mixed by Ben Holliday. And we couldn't do it without

1556
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: our guest booker, Patrick Kottner. The theme song, of course,

1557
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:03,479
Speaker 2: could only I'm from Miracle Worker Amy Man. You must

1558
01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:06,479
Speaker 2: follow the show on Instagram. At I said no Gifts,

1559
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,680
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear any excuses. That's where you

1560
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 2: get to see pictures of all these gorgeous gifts I'm getting.

1561
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,000
Speaker 2: And don't you want to see pictures of the gifts?

1562
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 1: And I invited you hear Thunta made myself perfectly clear.

1563
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:28,320
Speaker 1: But you're a guest to my home. You gotta come

1564
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: to me empty, and.

1565
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:37,600
Speaker 3: I said, no guests, you're our presences, presents, and I

1566
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:42,679
Speaker 3: already had too much stuff. So how do you dare

1567
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:44,479
Speaker 3: to survey me