1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,479 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 2: What's up, everybody, DJ, Bucky Rhett back with you on 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 2: our our first Monday Reaction episode of Move the Sticks. Reminder, 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 2: we've got five episodes coming your way this week, Monday 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: through Friday. 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 3: How about five? That number was five? 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:21,040 Speaker 4: Wow. 8 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: I feel like Buck, I feel like Rhett. 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if he just is like he's scared 10 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: of the Reaction podcast, but I feel like he looks 11 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 2: especially pale today. 12 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 3: That's That's what I'm getting at. 13 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's a little washed out. He's a little washed 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 5: out today. He's not he's not at his best. 15 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 4: He certainly that's a little better. That's a little better, 16 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 4: a little better. Get the right lighting, you know. 17 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 6: Just waite sure, white Wall back there. It's it's a 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 6: tough de hagi. We're good man. I've just been grinded, 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 6: you know. 20 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: It's been so it's a tough turnaround from Sunday to Monday, 21 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of sleep involved in these 22 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: in these deals here. 23 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: Bucky's got the coffee going. I mean, this is it 24 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 2: really is. It's one of my favorite pods of the 25 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,320 Speaker 2: year because we preview for months and months and months 26 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 2: and months and months, and we think, you know what 27 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 2: things are gonna look like. 28 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 5: I E, I E. 29 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 3: You think the Steelers might really be good. 30 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 2: Uh, and then all of a sudden, the game's happening. 31 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: I fell, Oh, good time. But that's why we're gonna 32 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 2: We're gonna do what we've done over the last few years. 33 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna we're gonna try and focus in on eight games, 34 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 2: and we're gonna really lock in on those, and we'll 35 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: have some other notes and nuggets on the other games 36 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: in case we don't get to that one with a 37 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: deep dive. But I say we jump right into it, guys, 38 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,600 Speaker 2: and I can start with the one that I was at, 39 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 2: which I think was one of the better games of 40 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: the day, which was the Dolphins and the Chargers in 41 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,680 Speaker 2: a shootout between the fifth and sixth picks from the 42 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty draft. Tua Buck it was. It was like 43 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 2: Alabama Tua it was. If you remember, we used to 44 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 2: compare him to a card dealer, like a Vegas card dealer, 45 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: with just like the balls out. I posted a little 46 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,480 Speaker 2: clip on Instagram because you know, people were saying, wow, man, 47 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: I don't understand they've got a backup left tackle and 48 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 2: there Taron Armstead's not playing. Chargers have all these high 49 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: priced pieces up front. How did not get any pressure 50 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 2: on him? 51 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: Well, I think, he said, by the way DJ and 52 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: before the game on Sunday. 53 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought I thought they would eat him up 54 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 2: because last year the Chargers were able to get their 55 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 2: hands on those wide outs. 56 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 3: This year it was free access all over the place. 57 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 2: Some of it I think had to do with them 58 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 2: maybe understanding the rules to Brandon Staley's defense a little bit, 59 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: with what they were doing shifts and motioning, which loosened 60 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 2: up coverage. And then they had they had a slick 61 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 2: little motion where they had Tyreek Hill lined up snug 62 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 2: buck and then he would jet out and then go. 63 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 2: So it's like the Arena League. It's like getting a 64 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 2: head start and you don't get a hand on him. 65 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,839 Speaker 2: You got no shot. So Tyreek Hill goes over two 66 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: hundred yards, he has seven catches over fifteen yards. Explosive 67 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,359 Speaker 2: after explosive after explosive. But to me, as much as 68 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 2: you know, what he did was incredible. 69 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 3: This was Tua. 70 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: This was Tua showing you lightning, quick eyes, release feet, 71 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 2: all that stuff. 72 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 3: I posted plays. 73 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 2: As I was mentioned on getting to on Instagram Buck, 74 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: there's unblocked pressures where they don't even didn't blocking Joey Bosa, 75 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 2: Like forget Bosa can't win. Bosa wasn't even getting blocked. 76 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 2: You couldn't get there. The ball's gone. So when they're 77 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 2: operating like that, it was it was Mike McDaniel kind 78 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: of feeling himself a little bit with the game plan, 79 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 2: and then Tua got in a rhythm and it was over. 80 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 5: You know, it was really funny to watch this back 81 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 5: because when you look at the Miami Dolphins we've talked 82 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 5: about what they have on the perimeter is basically an 83 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 5: Olympic level four OX one track team, like this is 84 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: a sprint fest. And the motion that you allude to 85 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 5: Mike McDaniel putting Tyreek Hill on the run, it's a 86 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 5: different motion for anyone who hasn't had a chance to 87 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: watch him. So normally when people motion, they motioned from 88 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 5: one side of the formation across the formation to the 89 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 5: other side. Sometimes your motion from outside in motion in 90 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 5: but what the Dolphins were doing, they had him almost 91 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 5: lined up as a wing back, which you know, I 92 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 5: love based on how I like to run the offense 93 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 5: had him at wingback and they motioned him to the 94 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 5: side that he was on but outside, and then they 95 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: had him turn up the field and he's running digs 96 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 5: and outs and everything. And if you can imagine someone 97 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 5: who is already fast, and I think the way that 98 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 5: you said it, it was like Arena League CFO. He 99 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 5: has a running start, he turns up the field, you 100 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 5: can't put your hands on him, and he's rolling across 101 00:04:21,560 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 5: the field. It was great design. And you know, like 102 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 5: we talked about coaching in the National Football League, it's 103 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 5: about players, but the best coaches make the game very 104 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 5: easy for their players, and that's what Mike McDaniel did 105 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 5: for the quarterback but also for Tyreek Hill. 106 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I would not want to be in that situation trying. 107 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: To move backwards as Tyreek Hill is essentially at full 108 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: speed at the moment he crosses the line of scrimmage, 109 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: Like what do you do? Like I'd almost send the 110 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: I'd almost send like the defensive back up to the 111 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and then just let him like turn 112 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: and sprint like he's running like a gasser, Like get 113 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: to one line and start going just so you can 114 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: you can get up the full speed too, because that's 115 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: just uncoverable, and that was that was a lot of 116 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: fun to watch. The question that I had DJ that 117 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: I was kind of curious about, is what did Vic 118 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Fangio do specifically in your mind to limit justin Herbert's production, 119 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 1: because it's not like there's any shortage of weapons on 120 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: that side of the ball in terms of offense. 121 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: I'm glad you asked that because I got texts from 122 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: some people saying I thought Kellen Moore was gonna unlock 123 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: You guys have been telling us that this is gonna 124 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: unlock it. I thought it was a masterful job by 125 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 2: Kellen Moore in this game. They scored thirty four points, 126 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 2: They ran for over two hundred yards, They almost had 127 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,359 Speaker 2: two hundred yard rushers. Eckler went for a buck seventeen, 128 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: Josh Kelly was over ninety yards. Vic Fangio never brought 129 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: the safeties down, and his whole thing was I'm not 130 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 2: gonna give up. I'm not gonna give up big plays. 131 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: And I'm telling you right, they would gash him eight 132 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 2: eight yards. It'd be second and two. And I go, okay, well, 133 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna get incredible. You're gonna get a shot played. 134 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to pull it second too, They're gonna 135 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 2: have to pull a safety down. And he's like, you 136 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: want to run for another five yards, get a first down, 137 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 2: knock yourself out out And the Chargers moved up and 138 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 2: down the field that way and kell them. Moore, to 139 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,600 Speaker 2: his credit, in my opinion, was patient. This is what 140 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: he's going to give me, I'm going to take it. 141 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: And they ran the ball down their throats. They scored 142 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 2: thirty four points. That was the third highest point total 143 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 2: of the weekend. And you need to win a game 144 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 2: when that happens. And if you think about most defensive 145 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 2: coordinators would be like, man, we gave up thirty over 146 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 2: thirty points. We gave up over two hundred yards rushing 147 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 2: like this is embarrassing. But what Vic did is the 148 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 2: one possession of the game, when the Chargers got the 149 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,679 Speaker 2: ball back with a buck forty five they needed to stop. 150 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 3: They got it. 151 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 2: The Chargers got a first down on the first play, 152 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 2: and then that the next play. That first rush, by 153 00:06:36,760 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 2: the way, they rushed five and then four or five. 154 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 2: The Chargers had a five man protection. They chipped both edges, 155 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 2: so they kind of had seven guys in pass pro 156 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: Then Vic said, Okay, we're not going to do that. 157 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 2: So then the next play six man. It was a 158 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 2: six man rush. The Chargers had enough bodies to pick 159 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: it up. Herbert didn't see the hot route in the flat. 160 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 2: Herbert gets an intentional grounding, so the pressures rewarded. The 161 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 2: next play, Sealer ends up beating Zion for a sack, 162 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 2: so they and they had a kind of a pressure 163 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: look there. Then now you get in a third and forever. 164 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 2: They rush three and try and drop eight, and Herbert 165 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: has time. He finds Mike Williams for a nice chunk. 166 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: They get a manageable fourth and twelve, and so what 167 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 2: does he do on the last one? He goes back 168 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 2: to that six man pressure. I think it was I 169 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 2: know for sure whose fault it was, but it was 170 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 2: a bust. Joshua Kelly was back there. They should have 171 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 2: had enough bodies. They don't pick it up. They get home, 172 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 2: So Vick kind of got a wait outside of his 173 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 2: normal routine a little bit on the key downs in 174 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: the game. At the end of the game, they got 175 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 2: the one stop, but this was about the Chargers defense 176 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:42,120 Speaker 2: having no chance of stopping the Dolphins. Offense. That was 177 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 2: a story of that game. This wasn't a Kellen Moore 178 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 2: or Justin Herbert thing was. This was a Dolphins offense shredding, 179 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 2: and they could have been worse. They fumbled inside the 180 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 2: ten and early in the game, and they had another 181 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:55,960 Speaker 2: possession where they settle for a field goal inside the ten. 182 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 2: So I mean they could easily put a forty burger 183 00:07:57,840 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: up there. 184 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 6: In the single game versus the Chargers in the NFL. 185 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 7: History, Yeah, you know, lat I mean, I think the 186 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 7: last thing, because it's so funny how people have judged 187 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 7: to a tongue of our law throughout this time, Like 188 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 7: DJ like the Dolphins is gonna have to make a 189 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 7: decision on whether to pay him or not, and like if. 190 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: He plays like this, you better pay him. 191 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 5: Then you have to pay him, regardless of the injury 192 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 5: history and those things like if this tour, the one 193 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 5: that's the Vegas the casino card dealer, if this one 194 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 5: shows up, They're hard to deal with because the ball 195 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 5: comes out, it comes out on time. He is he's 196 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 5: very aware of where the pressure is coming from, and 197 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 5: it is out. And we can talk about how the 198 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 5: receivers may make the quarterback at that same Tyreek Hill 199 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 5: play with Pat Mahomes, and we gave Pat Mahomes the credit. 200 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 5: And I'm not saying that Tua is in that class, 201 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 5: but at some point we have to give him credit 202 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 5: for when he's played well and they put up the 203 00:08:57,720 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 5: kind of numbers that they put up when he's in charge. 204 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 2: He does not have a big arm. I mean, you 205 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: sit there and you watch it. He does not have 206 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: a big arm. But it goes to show you when 207 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,599 Speaker 2: you have timing and you have anticipation and you have accuracy, 208 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: and he's got weapons. And again, I don't think you 209 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 2: just dropped Tua in any of the thirty two buildings 210 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 2: and you get this. But for what they're doing right now, 211 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 2: I could make a case. I don't know that there's 212 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 2: many quarterbacks you probably count them on one hand. Who 213 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 2: better fit what they're doing and who they're doing it 214 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: with in Miami, because I think people will pull out 215 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: a throw ret. They'll pull out They'll say, oh, he 216 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 2: missed this deep over to it didn't have enough arm. 217 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: That would have been a sixty yard touchdown. I'm like, yep, 218 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: you don't get that one. But the other ten throws 219 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 2: that you get where he gets to number three and 220 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 2: number four like this, those other big arm guys don't 221 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 2: give you that. So that adds up to more than 222 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 2: the sixty yards you might have given up because one 223 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 2: ball was underthrown. 224 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. Actually, I think we'll get to something that's very 225 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 6: similar to that in one of the games that I watched. 226 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: For the purposes of this podcast with the Raiders and Broncos. 227 00:09:58,880 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 6: But I know we got another one to get to it. 228 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 2: Yep, let's go ahead here, Buck, you were at Jaggs Colts. 229 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: A lot of different ways you can go with this one. 230 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: What was your takeaway? 231 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 5: Okay, So a lot of different ways that we'll go. 232 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 5: So we'll talk about two items, sir. So let's talk 233 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 5: about Calvin Ridley and Trevor Lawrence. That connection right now, 234 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 5: because that was the theme of the off season. The 235 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 5: excitement brimming from Duvall was all about how this offense 236 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 5: could put up thirty points a game. Dj they get 237 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 5: to thirty, and I would say that it was an 238 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 5: ugly thirty point performance in terms of how they got 239 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 5: there sputtering. Gus Bradley really did a good job of 240 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:34,960 Speaker 5: like Vic Vangiol, you're not getting the deep ball, We're 241 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 5: not giving you that or whatever, but what I can 242 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 5: say in watching this team play against Gus Bradley last 243 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 5: year versus playing against him this. 244 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 4: Year, Calvin really made all the difference. 245 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 5: A catches over one hundred yards and when I tell 246 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 5: you it was an easy one hundred yard day for him, 247 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 5: it is. 248 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 6: But college that was in the first quarter too. 249 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 4: I mean right was on fire early, right right out 250 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 4: the gate. 251 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 5: And DJ, We've talked about craftsmen and route runners in 252 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 5: those things, and I believe that Awards have a really 253 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 5: good wide receiver cord without Calvin Ridley. 254 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,319 Speaker 4: Christian Kirk is good. They Jones are good. 255 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 5: They good route runners, but it's different what Calvin Ridley's 256 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 5: on the backside of three by one and the cornerback 257 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 5: has to make a decision whether to play all or press. 258 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: And what Trevor Lawrence is doing is okay, if you 259 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 5: play off, I'm gonna throw this speed out over and 260 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 5: over and over again. You change, I'm gonna throw the curl. 261 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 4: I mean it. 262 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 5: Literally is as simple as that. And Calvin Ridley speed 263 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 5: his explosiveness and he left meat on the bone because DJ, 264 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 5: he catches a curl, he turns around outside and I 265 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 5: think everyone saw Travis Intiango running to block. Yeah, he 266 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 5: steps out abound because he just kind of lost sight 267 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 5: of where he was. But his zero to sixty with 268 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 5: the ball in his hands unbelievable. And Trevor Lawrence can 269 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 5: settle in because they were rushing, they were trying to 270 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 5: get the big play. But as they settle in, I 271 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,320 Speaker 5: can see this team hitting their stride midway to see 272 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 5: Calvin Ridley being in a fifteen hundred yard plus receiver 273 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 5: without doing a whole lot extra than what he did 274 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 5: this first game. 275 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, I was watching. 276 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: We kept checking in on that one on Game Day Live. 277 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 1: By the way, if you're not watching Game Day Live, 278 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: you're missing out great fun all day long, right live. 279 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 6: You know what I mean. You guys are two alums, 280 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 6: two veterans of Game Day Live. Hey, Brett, I want 281 00:12:22,559 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 6: to you this year. 282 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 4: I'm coming this year when we have you're coming in. 283 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 6: Oh good, good. 284 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 5: Thursday night game and maybe a Monday night game. I'm coming. 285 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 6: We needed you back, We needed you back. 286 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: But the thing that I kept checking in on, you know, 287 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 1: and you know what, this was kind of an interesting 288 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: theme to weave throughout the day. There was a couple 289 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: of couple of long, like explosive plays. I saw one 290 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: of them. I think one of them was that one 291 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: of the Calvin Ridley plays tradis Etn is firing up 292 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: the sideline like I mean, you know, shout out of 293 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: a cannon to go block. We saw Brandon you put 294 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 1: a pancake block on the Christian McCaffrey thing. Other plays 295 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: throughout the the thing. But I wanted to hit on 296 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: Travis Etn because I feel like we're still scratching the 297 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,839 Speaker 1: surface of just how good he is going to be. Eventually, 298 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: some of the explosive plays that he makes, man, it's 299 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: just going to totally change the dynamic. And then you know, DJ, 300 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: your your guy Tank Bigsby still gets into the end zone. 301 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 6: I think I think. 302 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: Does provide a nice compliment to the Jaguars run game. 303 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: But man, when Travis Etn is rolling, and then you've 304 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: got a guy in Calvin Ridley who can you know, 305 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,360 Speaker 1: absolutely make it go from anywhere on the field. Now 306 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 1: with Jacksonville, it's just a whole nother dimension that Doug 307 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: Peterson and Press Taylor can use. So I came away, 308 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 1: you know, kind of excited about what's still to come 309 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: for the Jaguars offense, and then you know, quickly on 310 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson, I thought he played better and I expected 311 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: he would, and I know they put the ball in 312 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 1: his hands a bunch, you know, random again, kind of 313 00:13:51,880 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: like Trevor told him after the game, protect yourself, man. 314 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: Look he I know he's a big, strong dude, but 315 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,439 Speaker 1: you want to be able to you lies that athleticism 316 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: throughout the year and not just in week one. 317 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 6: So I'd love to see. 318 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: Him, you know, kind of get out of the bounds, 319 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: get down a few more times than he did. But 320 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: I think they're still there's still a lot to like 321 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: about what we saw in that first week performance from him. 322 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: Buck, why don't you follow up on that with Anthony. 323 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 2: I watched Anthony Richardson as well, so I want to Buck, 324 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: you were there in the building, so i'd love to 325 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: get your takeaway on that. 326 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 5: Okay, So I would say this, he started out like 327 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 5: really well, like he was nervous early, but it didn't 328 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:29,880 Speaker 5: impact his passing numbers. 329 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 4: And then DJ what they. 330 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 5: Decided is I guess Shane Styken decided, hey, let me 331 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 5: pull out some of these Jalen Hurts plays, and so 332 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 5: they started running some of the high school college quarterback 333 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 5: run game, and when they ran him a few times, 334 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 5: he kind of settled in. They ran quarterback powers, quarterback counters, 335 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: little stuff like that. They kind of get him into 336 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 5: a rhythm. But then I can see why there's some 337 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 5: excitement about him up in Indy. The Jaguars bring up 338 00:14:56,600 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 5: pressure at him. I mean they hit him right in 339 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:01,400 Speaker 5: the nose and he throws it's a dart on a 340 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 5: slant and I can't remember it might have gone to 341 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 5: Josh Downs. 342 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: I mean, the ball is out on time, he sees it. 343 00:15:06,680 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 5: Fag and so as long as they were able to 344 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 5: kind of dictate the terms, he was good. But as 345 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 5: soon as Jacksonville went up at the end and it 346 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 5: became a guy to have it obvious passing situation, more 347 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 5: drop back than play action, that's not necessarily where he 348 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 5: was at as strong his best. And so as they're 349 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 5: looking to build upon this offense, it asked me one 350 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 5: or two things. They either have to do the Lamar 351 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 5: Jackson thing in the previous iteration of the Baltimore Ravens offense, 352 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 5: where they play from ahead, they run the ball, they 353 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 5: stay committed to running the ball regardless of the score 354 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 5: and allow him to work into it, or he is 355 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 5: going to have to continue to develop as a passer 356 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 5: to allow them to have to hold the entire playbook 357 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 5: to be able to utilize with the weapons that they have. 358 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's all great. On what you brought 359 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 2: up there, Buck. To me, the best thing about it, 360 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 2: I think I was most impressed with a lot of 361 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 2: times with young quarterbacks, rookie quarterbacks, especially, the middle of 362 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 2: the field is the freeway. There's traffic out there. A 363 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 2: lot of young guys don't even want to mess with it. 364 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 2: They want to just stay outside the numbers, work on 365 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 2: the perimeter. They don't trust all the moving parts in there. Man, 366 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: he had four first downs on steam routes, slant scenes 367 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 2: working in the middle of the field, where I was like, Okay, 368 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 2: he must be seeing things okay because he's comfortable working 369 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: in the middle of the field, which that's an encouraging sign. 370 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: Now he's still and we'll get to Stroud in a 371 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: minute with the next game. But whereas I think Stroud 372 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: needs to speed up, I think with Richardson there's times 373 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: where he's just got to slow down, and I think 374 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: he gets a little too ahead of himself. I think 375 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: that impacts his accuracy. He doesn't get settled. When he 376 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: gets settled in his feet in the ground, he can 377 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: he can throw it. But there's a handful of throws 378 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: buck that where somebody throws that. 379 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 3: You saw. 380 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,960 Speaker 4: Shor hot saled those things. 381 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 5: But I'm telling you, man, this is literally like Shane 382 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 5: Styke and taking a ball to clay and trying to 383 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 5: create a quarterback. He has all these physical gifts that 384 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 5: you love, big time arm talent, great athlete, supersize. I 385 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 5: don't think he's the runner that people make him out 386 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 5: to be in terms of like the Cam Newton Josh Allen. 387 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he can run, but I don't think he loves. 388 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 2: He doesn't and he doesn't have He didn't have a 389 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: lot of wiggle like you know, you know he's Josh Allen. 390 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: Josh Allen is elusive as a big athlete. He Richardson 391 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 2: just big and strong and fast, but he's not a 392 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: He's not a super instinctive runner out of space. 393 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 4: He doesn't have that. 394 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 5: So they can run him, but I don't know if 395 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 5: he's the runner. When people were making the comparison between 396 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 5: him and Cam Newton and Josh he's a different style. 397 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 5: He's just a big guy that can run. It's not 398 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 5: like he's like, hey, we're in the five yard line. 399 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,479 Speaker 5: It's Anthony Richardson. I'm going to school. He did, but 400 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 5: it's not like he I don't think he loves that. 401 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: Part of m That's interesting, man. That's uh. Well again, 402 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: we'll be keep an eye on him throughout the whole season, 403 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: sore more on him. We'll see how he continued to improve. 404 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:54,679 Speaker 2: But I thought overall, good start there for Anthony Richardson, 405 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 2: although they came up a little short against the Jags. 406 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: All right, let's do let's do one more than we'll 407 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 2: take a break break here, reht, Why don't you get 408 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 2: us to your first one, which you had what Ravens Texans? 409 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 6: Yeah, Ravens Texans in Baltimore. 410 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: You know, you think about the graveyard of quarterbacks that 411 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 1: have kind of come up against the Ravens early in 412 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: their careers. 413 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, my. 414 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: Buddy Eli what had a zero point zero passer rating 415 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: in his first starting against the Ravens. Like it's a 416 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,439 Speaker 1: tough deal and it's still a really good defense there. 417 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,120 Speaker 1: Obviously the names have changed and some of the personnel change. 418 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: And coaching staff. But man, and one thing is is 419 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: for sure, they're still going to get after you, especially 420 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: if your young quarterback. And I think you saw that. 421 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: I think you saw it early, especially you know, whether 422 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: it was a dafeoway or whether it was coming from 423 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: the second level. 424 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 6: By the way, Patrick Queen and Roquan Smith look like 425 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,160 Speaker 6: they are on a real different level. 426 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 1: Whole different level in this game and in this season. 427 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be a fun pairing, you know, to 428 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:50,439 Speaker 1: watch as they feed off each other. They're both you know, 429 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: in run support and you know, getting downhill from the 430 00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: second level rushing the passers. 431 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 6: So let me talk a little bit though about. 432 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: The second overall pick, c J. 433 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:02,640 Speaker 6: Stroud. 434 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: You know, the first the first pass attempt, obviously it's 435 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 1: knocked down, right, I think it was I think it 436 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: was Patrick Queen or Rokwan that knocked it down, and 437 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: then he CJ runs up there and actually catches it. 438 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: So he caught his first career pass attempt, which only 439 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: Brett Favre as he is only quarterback we found was 440 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: able to do that. Yeah, but here's the thing that 441 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: I came away encourage it. By the way, he was 442 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: under pressure, way too much. They got some they got 443 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: to figure out some things offensive line lies and you know, 444 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 1: hopefully you get Titus Howard back healthy, get a few 445 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 1: of those guys back and ready to go, and they'll 446 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: figure that out. But the thing that I came away 447 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: impressed with was c J. Stroud's poison third down. It 448 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 1: faced a lot of them in this game. 449 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 6: Guys. 450 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 1: He went thirteen and sixteen for one hundred and twenty 451 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: four yards on third down. Now, they didn't convert every 452 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,200 Speaker 1: single one of those because they were in some third 453 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,200 Speaker 1: and really unfortunate situations. Third sixteen, third and twenty one. 454 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 1: You know, one of them was a clock play at 455 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: the end of the half that goes down as an incompletion. 456 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: But the way that he was able to take completions 457 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,479 Speaker 1: I saw, you know, one of them in particular, second quarters, 458 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: a third and two. He's got Bobby Trees on essentially 459 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: an inside slant where he's kind of he's trying to 460 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: peel in between, you know, a high low defender and CJ. 461 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: Layers It perfectly also keeps it underneath like closing safety 462 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: from up top like man. You know, some of that 463 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: accuracy and that ability to just kind of thread the Needle. 464 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 6: You saw it. 465 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: You saw it at times against Baltimore. Now he didn't 466 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: see it enough, I think, But man, to have that 467 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 1: kind of poise against that team on the road in 468 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 1: third down situations, I think gives you a little encouragement 469 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: moving forward from this this young player. So I liked 470 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: a lot of what I saw from CJ. Stroud And 471 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: then on the flip side, Zay Flowers. 472 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 6: Man, that dude is going to be so much fun 473 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 6: to watch. 474 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I left training camp, you know, I was there. 475 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: I was there with Baldy and Pep Hamilton and we 476 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: kind of all left that training camp practice being like 477 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: Odell is great, you know, Rashad Bateman maybe, but this 478 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 1: offense is going to be more kangriss A Flowers. 479 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 6: That's how good they are, and that's how good Theay is. 480 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 6: So those are the two things that kind of spit 481 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,360 Speaker 6: out to me from that game. 482 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 2: DJ Yeah, and Buck, I'll get it to you quickly 483 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: on this one. Stroud to me when I watched it, 484 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: mentioned it a little bit earlier. Just speed up a 485 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: tick some of those sacks, just sometimes the balls a 486 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: little bit late. I didn't think that he looked overwhelmed 487 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,239 Speaker 2: by any stretch, I think that's it. And I'll say 488 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 2: an easy fix, but it's you know, you played at 489 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 2: Ohio State. You're playing with better players than everybody else. 490 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 2: There's an adjustment when you're playing against a team that 491 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,000 Speaker 2: has better dudes than you do. And that's what he's 492 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 2: going to see probably a lot this year. But he 493 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 2: got heated up. Just need to speed it up a 494 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 2: little bit. And then if I go back in the 495 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 2: evaluation process, when I watched him over the summer before 496 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 2: his last year at Ohio State, one of the questions 497 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 2: I had was I was like, man, I don't know 498 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: how much like pure top end arm strength he has 499 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,240 Speaker 2: because I didn't feel like he got into his legs enough, 500 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: you know where it's just kind of arm only, And 501 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: I thought the ball died a little bit on the perimeter. 502 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 2: Now in this game, again, some of these are still completions. 503 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 2: He's still getting there because you know, he's very accurate. 504 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 2: But I think some of that crept back back in 505 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 2: a little bit where he's got to get into his legs. 506 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 2: He'll be able to drive the ball a little bit more. 507 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 2: Because I thought his arm strength was off a tick 508 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: from what we saw last year. At Ohio State. 509 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:12,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a challenging performance for him. He's playing 510 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 5: a really good defense. And in fact, I like to 511 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: talk about that defense because you know, the more things change, 512 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 5: the more they stay the same in Baltimore, the more 513 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 5: they talk about being an uptempo, high powered offense, we're 514 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 5: want to unleash Lamar Jackson. At the end of the day, 515 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 5: when the Baltimore Ravens win is because they're able to 516 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 5: control the opponent with their defense. You guys talked about 517 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 5: Patrick Queen and that linebacker corps and what they were 518 00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 5: able to do defensively. To me, it's the same old 519 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 5: story with the Baltimore Ravens. I know we want them 520 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 5: to be a certain way because you have an MVP 521 00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 5: and Lamar Jackson, but at the end of the day, 522 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 5: their identity is always going to be defense, running game, 523 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,199 Speaker 5: finding a way to win in special teams. 524 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 4: That's just kind of who they are, and we can 525 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 4: talk about it. I just can't. 526 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 5: I have to over under on how long before the 527 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 5: Ravens go back to how long do they stick with 528 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: the a we throw it all over the yard, this 529 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 5: and that before they finally realize, yeah, we. 530 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 6: Can't do well look with JK. Dobbins out with the achilles, so. 531 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 3: They get into maybe they don't didn't. 532 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: You know, they feel like they've had so many running 533 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 2: back injuries over the last couple of years man, and 534 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 2: they just find the next man up and throw them 535 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 2: in there and they kind of get back to who 536 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 2: they are. But last thing on this one to me, 537 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 2: when you look on the defensive side of the ball 538 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: for the Texans, we talked about it in the draft 539 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 2: last year. You know, hey, they wanted to get their 540 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 2: offensive pillar. They feel like they've got that with Stroud, 541 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: and then they come back up and get Will Anderson 542 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 2: to be that defensive pillar. Will Anderson going through the 543 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,399 Speaker 2: PFF stuff had five pressures, which was second most amongst 544 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 2: the rookies. I saw him rush, he had a win inside. 545 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:46,719 Speaker 2: I love them using him in there a little bit. 546 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 2: Let him win, just whip a guard and then off 547 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: the edge. You still saw the combination of power and 548 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 2: speed that he has. He's gonna be a really, really 549 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 2: good player. It was a good first game for him, 550 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: So I think you can be encouraged if you're the Texans. 551 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,880 Speaker 2: You saw some good things on offense with Stroud, saw 552 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,280 Speaker 2: some good things on defense with Will Anderson. They need 553 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 2: a lot more of those types of guys. That's gonna 554 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: be the challenge for them going forward. But I thought 555 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 2: that was a good sign and a very tough environment 556 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,119 Speaker 2: against a good football team in the Ravens. All Right, 557 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 2: we're gona take quick break. We come back. We've got 558 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 2: five more games to get to. We'll pick up the 559 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: pace a little bit, and we'll do that right after this. 560 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: All Right, guys, let's keep it going here. We've kind 561 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 2: of had the rookie quarterback theme, so let's keep that 562 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 2: rolling as we get to the Carolina Panthers number one 563 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: overall pick Bryce Young. They struggled against the Atlanta Falcons. 564 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:36,160 Speaker 2: The Falcons win that one twenty four to ten. Going 565 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 2: back through and looking at it and looking at Bryce, 566 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: this was my takeaway on it. And Buck, I'll jump 567 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 2: over to you on this one after this. But the 568 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 2: concerns we had going into this were more with what's 569 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 2: around Bryce than Bryce, and I thought that showed itself 570 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 2: a little bit in this game. I think you box 571 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: score scout and you'll say, ah, the numbers don't look good. 572 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 2: You have the two picks, you know, is this a 573 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 2: young guy? Who's overwhelmed. I didn't get that sense at all. 574 00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 2: I thought early in the game they were able to 575 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 2: get the ball out quick, they hit some quick screens, 576 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: they rolled him out. I thought he was seeing the 577 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,639 Speaker 2: field well. He did not look overwhelmed at all. What 578 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 2: happened was the Falcons got a beat on this and 579 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 2: they realized they're not threatening us. So the two interceptions 580 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:21,119 Speaker 2: you'll see them. I mean bits, they're just flat. I 581 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 2: mean the safeties are just flat with zero respect for 582 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 2: anybody running by them. And so he's able to drive 583 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 2: on balls and bryce. You know, I thought, okay, man, 584 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 2: he must have really locked on. It wasn't as much 585 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: as they locked on. It's just if you don't expand 586 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 2: the defense at all. You're playing half court. We talk 587 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 2: about that all the time, Like you're trying to play 588 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 2: half court basketball. Think about half court. When you play 589 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 2: five on five half court, how crowd it is you're 590 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: playing eleven on eleven half court. The first time they 591 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: uncorked one down the field was in the fourth quarter 592 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 2: with like twelve minutes to go, So you know that's 593 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: going to be a challenge for them. They don't have 594 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: home run ability, they don't have guys that can consistently win, 595 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: and Buck, I think it was you were saying earlier 596 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:00,919 Speaker 2: with Richardson. When you get a rookie court and the 597 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 2: game gets out away from you and you're in a 598 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: pass only mode, you're gonna get one of two things. 599 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 2: And you don't have a great offensive line. They're gonna 600 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 2: peel back their ears and they're going to hit you, 601 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 2: which they were able to do, or they're gonna play coverage. 602 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 2: You've got nobody that can win. So I thought there 603 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: were good things from Bryce, but I'm telling you the 604 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 2: environment what he's got to work with, and it's not the. 605 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 3: Coaching staff's fault. They don't have the guys right now. 606 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 4: No, they don't have the guys right now. 607 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,639 Speaker 5: And you know, I mean I understood why they did 608 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 5: it because they traded their number one receiver to have 609 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 5: the opportunity to get them, but they didn't adequately replace it. 610 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:34,879 Speaker 5: You know, you bring in Adam Thielen, who at this 611 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,920 Speaker 5: day of his career two three type receiver. You bring 612 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 5: in Jonathan Mingo, but he's not ready to be the 613 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 5: number one, and so you have a quarterback who doesn't 614 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 5: have that trusted sidekick. And we know we young quarterbacks, 615 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 5: is more important to have that veteran receiver that he 616 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 5: can grow with, that he can depend on, and they 617 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,560 Speaker 5: don't have that in Carolina, and the Falcons did a 618 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 5: really good job of making them play their style of game. 619 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 5: They made him play the way that they wanted play. 620 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 5: They didn't give up the big play. They played downhill 621 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 5: with their safety's coming down here coming out to shoes 622 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 5: because they weren't tested until they figured out a way 623 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 5: to create a vertical element that makes people back off. 624 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,919 Speaker 5: He's gonna get a lot of half court basketball at 625 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 5: the YMCA. 626 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,439 Speaker 6: Well. 627 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 1: On the flip side of things, for Arthur Smith's offense, 628 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: the Tyler alsire Jeon Robinson situation is very impressive and 629 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: encouraging moving forward. Not as much if you're a Kyle 630 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: Pitts Drake London fan, but Drake, I don't did Drake 631 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: even get yeah. 632 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 3: Zero zero catch? Yeh? 633 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:38,439 Speaker 2: As someone who may or may not have started him 634 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 2: in a fantasy game, I can tell you he got 635 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 2: zero zero. 636 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 6: Points for sure. But on the one touchdown that Bijon. 637 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,760 Speaker 1: Scored, which was through the air, I mean it was 638 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: it was a quick throw, but I think he gave 639 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: you and showed you everything that you loved about him 640 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: coming out of Texas, right, the quick movement to get 641 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: by that first defender, the power and physicality to essentially 642 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 1: split the next to potential tacklers, and then the speed 643 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: then to turn it up a gear and get into 644 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: the end zone. That was a lot of fun to watch. 645 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: And you know, frankly, I was a little bit surprised 646 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,199 Speaker 1: at how much we saw Tyler Ral's year. I mean, 647 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: he had fifteen carries in this game for seventy five yards. 648 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:16,800 Speaker 1: He was I mean, he was obviously effective, So I 649 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: get it why you wanted to get in the rock. 650 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: But with Bjeon Robbinson there, I just I thought that 651 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: that would be a little bit more inverted in terms 652 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: of who was going to get the most touched. They 653 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,680 Speaker 1: didn't need it targeted. 654 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 2: They didn't need it. That was my take on that one. 655 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 2: To interrupt you, but my own take on that was like, Hey, 656 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 2: there's gonna be Bijon games. You're gonna play better teams, 657 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,880 Speaker 2: and you're gonna you're gonna need Bejon because Bijeon's gonna 658 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 2: turn some of these fives and sevens and tens into forties, fifties, 659 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 2: sixties seventies exactly, so, but they didn't need him. They 660 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 2: didn't need in this game. I mean, they threw the 661 00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,640 Speaker 2: ball what eighteen times and Tyler Algier can bang away 662 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 2: and they're not going to score on the other side. 663 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 2: So why are we gonna Why are we gonna put 664 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: all this extra weight on our rookie running back. 665 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 3: You don't have to. 666 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 6: It's fair. 667 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 4: So good? 668 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 3: What do you think buck right? 669 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 5: No, So when I think about the Falcons offense, and 670 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 5: I was really impressed with one Vjion coming out the gate, 671 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 5: living up to the hyphe in terms of his first touchdown, 672 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 5: he kind of put it all on display right there. 673 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 5: Stop stark quickness first gets into the zone, all of 674 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 5: that other stuff. But Arthur Smith being able to kind 675 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 5: of pick and choose how he wants to attack the 676 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 5: defense with the weapons that they've had. We've talked about 677 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 5: the positionless ball and how they kind of have the 678 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,239 Speaker 5: ability to mix and match and move people around. You 679 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 5: can see there's so much left to explore when it 680 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 5: comes to the personnel. A lot of it though, will 681 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 5: hand you on how good is Desmond Ridder, How good 682 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: is Desmond Riddle when he's out of his comfort zone 683 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 5: and the game is not where they're ahead and they're 684 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 5: kind of playing with house money. How is he when 685 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 5: the game is tight and they need him to make plays. 686 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 5: I think he can be an excellent game manager, but 687 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,600 Speaker 5: their success will be determined on how much of a 688 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 5: playmaker he can be when they need him to make 689 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 5: those plays when everyone knows it. 690 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely didn't need it in that game. They just 691 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: their defense kind of controlled the game, all right, But 692 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: keep us rolling here this one. It sounds weird to 693 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,280 Speaker 2: say a team that was in the NFC Championship was 694 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 2: the surprise of the weekend. 695 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: I'm not. 696 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: I guess I'm not surprised they won. I could definitely 697 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 2: see the forty nine ers winning, but they went into 698 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and just beat the stuffing out of the Steelers. 699 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 5: So let me set the stage by I made a 700 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 5: visit to San Francisco in the middle of training camp 701 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 5: for ITC Live. And when you go out there and DJ, 702 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 5: you can't help it, like the scout and you always 703 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 5: stays around. So you look around and you just look 704 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 5: at the body types and you're like, man, these dudes 705 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 5: like they're just different. They're big there, they're strong, they're fast. 706 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 5: You watched them practice and then there's a it's almost 707 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 5: like going to an Alabama Georgia practice. Right, they don't 708 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 5: have on paths, but the physicality kind of makes you 709 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 5: WinCE a little bit, like, hey, can we go? Can 710 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,840 Speaker 5: can we be at that pace that tempo in a 711 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 5: non paddic practice. The Pittsburgh still has did all the 712 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 5: stuff in the preseason with an eye towards making and 713 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 5: having an impressive debut against one of the more physical 714 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 5: teams in football, the Niners, and to hear Mike Thomland 715 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 5: after the game say, we know that this is a 716 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 5: team that plays to their brand. They play to their identity, 717 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 5: and we have to keep them off their brand. And 718 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 5: they beat us doing exactly what they want to do. 719 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 5: And what the Niners always want to do is they 720 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 5: want to hit you, in them out for the running game. 721 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 5: They want to dominate, control the trenches, they want to 722 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 5: unleash their pass rushers up front, and at the end 723 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 5: of the day, their goal is to beat you up 724 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 5: over four quarters. And they beat the Pittsburgh Steelers up. 725 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 5: And that is hard for Stillness to acknowledge because they've 726 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 5: always been to bully on the block they got bullied 727 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 5: by the Niners, and the stats to say mcaffe one 728 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 5: hundred fifty yards, rock praide being efficient all that. At 729 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 5: the end of the day, this was a heavyweight fight 730 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 5: and they toured with the Pittsburgh Steels because they beat 731 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 5: them up. 732 00:31:56,520 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: What'd you see, Red, Yeah, well, you know, I saw 733 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: my fantasy pipe dreams all kind of go up and 734 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: smoke in week one. 735 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 6: You know, I was, I was. 736 00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: I was really bullish on George Pickens, and I was 737 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: really bullish on the way that. 738 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 3: You know started him as well, started him as well. 739 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 6: She's did you score hitting points? 740 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, thankful, thankfully. There was some other guys like Davante Smith, 741 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: Bjeon got in the end zone. Helped me out a 742 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 2: little bit. But there's a lot riding on Josh Allen 743 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 2: against the Jets. Let's just put it that way. I'd 744 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,760 Speaker 2: have to make up for the Drake London George Pickens fiasco. 745 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I look, George still caught five balls, but you know, 746 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 1: thirty six yards. It's just like I expected more of 747 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: the explosive plays. I mean, the way that it was, 748 00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: you know, an absolute explosive fest in the preseason for 749 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett, in this offense, whether it was Deontay Johnson 750 00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: or whether it was you know, Pickens or even Nagie Harris, 751 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, throughout run or pass, and they couldn't even 752 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,239 Speaker 1: get the ball to nag I mean they were they 753 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: were down three scores in the blink of an eye 754 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: at home, right, And I think, look, for as much 755 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: as we thought that the Pittsburgh offensive line was improved, 756 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: and look, they are still not enough. Like they still 757 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: got a ways to go to compete with the best 758 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: of the best in terms of defenses that you're going 759 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 1: to face in this league and that they're going to 760 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: face in this division. Like, think about what they're going 761 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: to have to go see in Cleveland, you know, in 762 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks here and twice a year, by 763 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: the way, twice this year after what they did to 764 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,800 Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals this week, and then the Ravens already 765 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,880 Speaker 1: talked about them. So like, Pittsburgh's got to figure it 766 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: out in a hurry offensively and then defensively. I think 767 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: I expected more as well, you know the fact that 768 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: they were able to get you I'm looking at explosives 769 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: from my Uke and Debo in the pass game and 770 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,239 Speaker 1: then obviously McCaffrey in the run game, and then think 771 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 1: about mcaff sometimes those sixty five yard runs can eskew. 772 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,720 Speaker 1: You know how well how consistently productive you were in 773 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: the run game. You take that run out, he's still 774 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: averaging five yards of pop. So like they had it 775 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: wherever they wanted here at this point. 776 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 3: Each Yeah, they did. 777 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 2: They dominated the game, and I think brock Perdy just 778 00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 2: kind of efficiently, and I think that was Bucky's word. 779 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 2: Just operate the offense. That's what they want from him. 780 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 2: He didn't have to do anything special. Just everything that's there, 781 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 2: everything that's that's there, take it, Take the freebies. This 782 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: offense is going to give you layups and freebies. 783 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,279 Speaker 3: Take them. 784 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 2: And that's what he did to the tune of two 785 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty yards. And I got in the end 786 00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 2: zone a couple of times. So that was this is 787 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: the Kyle Shanahan offense. That and a guy that's very 788 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: comfortable operating, and they were physical with the line of 789 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 2: scrimmage on both sides. I was disappointed in Kenny Pickett. 790 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:30,920 Speaker 2: I was hoping you're going to see him kind of 791 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,560 Speaker 2: really take a next step and let's let's let's reserve judgment. 792 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 2: Let's get into the season a little bit. That's a 793 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: really good defense, maybe the best in the league that 794 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 2: he went up against. 795 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,760 Speaker 3: But it wasn't great. 796 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, the first interception, Deontay Johnson fell down, slipped in 797 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: Shavari's hoard winner. 798 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,320 Speaker 6: But I don't know if it was a well. I 799 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,400 Speaker 6: don't think it was the most well placed throw to 800 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 6: be getting well. 801 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 2: Didn't come off his hand well though, like I thought 802 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 2: he threw it well when I was out there at camp, 803 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: I just didn't see the same. Yeah, So Buck, Buck, 804 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 2: anything else you want out of that before we move on. 805 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 4: No, I just know this. 806 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 5: I know Rick Peterson did a lot of talking before 807 00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,320 Speaker 5: the game, and I think, uh, I think guys have 808 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 5: to quit poking the bear when it comes to dealing 809 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 5: with the forty nine ers. 810 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 4: And even Brock Purdy. 811 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 5: Rock Purdy, Uh, when we look at quarterbacks, and it's 812 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,560 Speaker 5: funny because het we we had him at the East 813 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 5: West Shrine game, and who knew that coming out of 814 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 5: that game that he would be well. But rock Purdy's 815 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:25,839 Speaker 5: best trade might be his intelligence and his competitiveness. He 816 00:35:25,880 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 5: has he has that quote unquote dog. 817 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 4: In him where he doesn't back down and he let 818 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 4: out that that that that yall of that scream or whatever. 819 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,880 Speaker 5: Uh. After he scores the first touchdown, he throws a 820 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 5: strike and he remembered and he attacked Pat Peter. 821 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: He loves he loves Brandon Brandon. Ayuk like loves Brandon. 822 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: And remember there's been some up and down with Ayuk 823 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: in this offense, but when party's in the game, Ayuk 824 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 1: is going to get his targets. 825 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 5: And and and it's been great for the offense because 826 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 5: they make it forces them to utilize every weapon. But 827 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,719 Speaker 5: brock Purdy his competitiveness, he kind of embodies how the 828 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 5: Niners want to go. And the thing that was telling 829 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 5: to me post game, Trent Williams talking about, man, we 830 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,879 Speaker 5: love this dude. He has the captain on his chest 831 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 5: because of all that he's endured and the way that 832 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,960 Speaker 5: he's come back. Nick Bosa talking about how he's adored 833 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 5: in the locker room and the leadership in those things. 834 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 5: And so to go back to Trey Lance, he didn't 835 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 5: have a chance because the dude was always brought pretty. 836 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 4: He never would have been able to take that away 837 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:28,440 Speaker 4: from him. 838 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 5: Based on how the guys gravitate to Broxford and the 839 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 5: way that they've seen him earn his stripes as the 840 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,799 Speaker 5: guy who's a QB wan and they're the captain of 841 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 5: that squad. 842 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it was in Look, that's a complete team 843 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: right there, one of the best teams in the NFL, 844 00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 2: and they showed it in Week one. Probably the most 845 00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 2: impressive win I would say what they did. Although I 846 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 2: guess we can get to what the whatever the Giants 847 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 2: put up against the Cowboys, maybe get the Cowboys some 848 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 2: love here in a minute, But before before we get 849 00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: to that one down the line, let's let's keep it 850 00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:57,360 Speaker 2: going here. 851 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,560 Speaker 3: Rett, You've got an AFC West tilt here. 852 00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, I think there was a lot of 853 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: intrigue with this one based on, you know, Sean Payton's 854 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,680 Speaker 1: first game with the Denver Broncos, you know home game 855 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 1: there in Denver, first game with Russell Wilson. And look, 856 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,479 Speaker 1: I think early on you saw the Russell Wilson Sean, 857 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: you saw the Sean Payton impact on him. 858 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 6: I mean, this was a. 859 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 1: Very efficient day for Russell Wilson. The two quarterbacks combined 860 00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: at less than ten in completions. Like it was, this 861 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 1: was a pretty solid day, albeit not a super explosive 862 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 1: day through the air for both of these teams. And 863 00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, look, obviously the Broncos are kind of beat 864 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 1: up in the pass game. Greg Dulcic, you know, left 865 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,239 Speaker 1: that game, Jerry Judy didn't play in that game, so 866 00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: they were missing some guys for sure. Maybe that opens 867 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: things up a little bit down the line. But they 868 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: got a lot out of samaj p Ryan and out 869 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: of Javonte Williams both in the run in the pass game. 870 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: But the thing that I came back to most notably 871 00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,880 Speaker 1: was with the Raiders, and it's kind of very similar 872 00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: to what you were talking about at the top DJ 873 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 1: with Mike McDaniel and to a tune by lower comfortability, 874 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: mobility and trust is so big and it felt so 875 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: big in this game between Josh McDaniels and Jimmy Garoppolo 876 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: and then also between Jacoby Myers and Josh McDaniels, and 877 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: then that Triumvirent really showed their chemistry because you know, 878 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: Jimmy found Jacoby Myers nine catches almost one hundred yards, 879 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,279 Speaker 1: a couple of touchdowns, one to start the scoring, one 880 00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: for the game winner, eventual game winner. So and for 881 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,279 Speaker 1: a second there you're like, holy smokes, where's DeVante Adams. Well, 882 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 1: Davante showed up when they needed it, right, they showed up. 883 00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: He showed up on that last drive when Jimmy was 884 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,000 Speaker 1: able to really start to move this team down the 885 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: field with some chunk plays. You had like an eighteen 886 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:41,800 Speaker 1: yard er a DeVante, you had another big one to 887 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: Jacoby Myers, that a twenty yard to Austin Hooper which 888 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: was his only catch of the game. So they found 889 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 1: a way to create chunk plays when they needed to 890 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: down the stretch when they absolutely had to go down 891 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: there get that essentially game winning touchdown. 892 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,080 Speaker 6: And then the defense came up with some stops. 893 00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:57,719 Speaker 3: You know. 894 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: The Broncos offense moved the ball, you know, down the 895 00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,719 Speaker 1: field a couple of different times, and I think there's 896 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,480 Speaker 1: still some work to do, particularly offensive line wise for 897 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: the Raiders. 898 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,920 Speaker 6: You know, we didn't see it. We didn't see a 899 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 6: really productive and efficient run game out of Josh Jacobs, 900 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,000 Speaker 6: although Greg Van Rodin I think it was a nice 901 00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,640 Speaker 6: pickup for that offensive line for the Raiders that he 902 00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 6: played well both in pass pro and in the run game. 903 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: And then just you know, the one glaring mistake for 904 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,439 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo was, he's just got you know, I don't 905 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 1: know how many years have been in the league. You 906 00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: cannot you know, six seconds you're down in the red 907 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: zone inside the fifteen yard line. You cannot throw that 908 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: ball into danger like you've got to be able to 909 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 1: get at least three points out of a drive like that. 910 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 6: Can't throw that interception that deflects off somebody. 911 00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: And by the way, on the scale of on the 912 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:48,879 Speaker 2: scale of dumb decisions, that is like a three out 913 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,439 Speaker 2: of ten compared to J. C. Jackson getting a pass 914 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 2: iner for it with no time on the clock at 915 00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:54,479 Speaker 2: the twenty five yard line. 916 00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:59,439 Speaker 3: But yeah, that's by the way, on that game. 917 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: On that game, real quick, I went back because I 918 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 2: want to see Tyrey Wilson because you know, hey, this 919 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,399 Speaker 2: is a top top pick, this is someone who had 920 00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,320 Speaker 2: all this ability. And there was that debate, remember the 921 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 2: Will Anderson Tyree Wilson, Like what you know, who should 922 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 2: go first? 923 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:11,600 Speaker 3: Here? 924 00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 2: Two different styles. I saw some good things for him 925 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 2: in the preseason buck, but in this one it looked 926 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 2: like he was thinking out there. He was playing high, 927 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,640 Speaker 2: he wasn't playing fast. He looked a little lethargic, he 928 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: almost looked a little heavy too something as you can't 929 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:26,440 Speaker 2: tell from from the tape. But he's got to cut 930 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,360 Speaker 2: it loose, like his whole brand is not polish and handtack. 931 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: His whole brand is speed and power and violence. And 932 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 2: that didn't really see that from him in week one. 933 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 5: Well, as he told Rett now when he came on 934 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 5: past to the draft, he talked about his whole brand 935 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 5: is basically whooping the opponent. 936 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: Like he just talked about that didn't happen in that one. 937 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,640 Speaker 4: He talked about what he just put his hands on. 938 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 5: People played violet in those things, and he didn't exhibit 939 00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:49,399 Speaker 5: those kinds of things. 940 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,479 Speaker 4: I want to go back to Jimmy Garoffolo right quick. 941 00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:55,720 Speaker 5: Josh mcganne's talked about how tough, how resilient Jimmy Garoffolo 942 00:40:55,960 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 5: is and you know, more than any other trait that 943 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,319 Speaker 5: he wanted in the quarterback, that's what he want it. 944 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 5: So take it as a shot at Dery Carr. Josh 945 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:06,560 Speaker 5: McDaniels is very comfortable with Jimmy Garoppolo as his quarterback 946 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 5: and maybe that leads to better results for the Raiders 947 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:09,280 Speaker 5: this season. 948 00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the you know, to me with the Broncos. 949 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 2: The best way I could describe it is with Russell 950 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 2: Wilson and Sean Payton. 951 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 3: We've talked. 952 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 2: I think we maybe have referenced this before. But you know, 953 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: like that when you're a kid and you go to 954 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,879 Speaker 2: a birthday party and do the egg toss and you 955 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 2: start right next to each other. Yep, they didn't get 956 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 2: beyond five feet. 957 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:28,479 Speaker 3: Guys. They I don't know if. 958 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 2: They were scared that egg was gonna break, But like, 959 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 2: we got to expand that a little bit here. Now, 960 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 2: let's let's gotta have a little bit of an element 961 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 2: of that ye in that game. 962 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 5: As an egg toss champion, you gotta give, you gotta toss, 963 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,160 Speaker 5: you gotta give catch, ye give give. The kids can't 964 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 5: have those hard hands, Rich can't have your you know, 965 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 5: the palm. 966 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 3: Like you're talking to a holder here. 967 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:51,640 Speaker 6: Do you think he does placeholder here? Guys? 968 00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it all right, I'll roll for this 969 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 2: next one here. Eagles Patriots a game where the Eagles 970 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 2: just kind of jumped on him early. It was sixteen 971 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,759 Speaker 2: nothing before you could blink, and then they just kind 972 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 2: of held on for the rest of the game. They 973 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:08,880 Speaker 2: ended up winning twenty five to twenty. There was some 974 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,400 Speaker 2: weather there. I was, I'll get you over on this 975 00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 2: one bucket. I was talking to read about this offline earlier, 976 00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 2: as he was you we're talking about, Okay, what happened? 977 00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,560 Speaker 2: You know, Jalen Hurts didn't play that great, didn't look 978 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 2: really comfortable. And I said, nobody does a better job 979 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 2: in the history of the NFL of giving you a 980 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: muddy picture than Bill Belichick, you know where It's like, Look, 981 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 2: I don't pretend that I'm you know, possess all the 982 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,640 Speaker 2: knowledge in the world in terms of coverages. I understand 983 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,920 Speaker 2: the basics. I played college football a million years ago. 984 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 2: I've been doing this a long time. I can give 985 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:40,200 Speaker 2: you basics, right. I don't know what techtor're doing. I 986 00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: can't figure out some of the coverages. I just know 987 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 2: it looks like there's thirteen guys out there at times, 988 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,280 Speaker 2: and it's just a it gives you a muddy picture. 989 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: So to me, that's you know, that's what he was 990 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:51,839 Speaker 2: dealing with. And they kind of just did what they 991 00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 2: had to do to survive. Whereas the Niners went on 992 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,480 Speaker 2: the road and it was a dominant performance, the Eagles 993 00:42:57,520 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 2: just kind of kind of found their way to the 994 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,359 Speaker 2: finish line. The one thing I would feel good about 995 00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,680 Speaker 2: if you're an Eagle fan is that this front Jalen 996 00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: Carter and the numbers are all different. I was on 997 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: PFF this morning. It had nine pressures, and I guess 998 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,920 Speaker 2: that number varies anywhere from like six to nine. But 999 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 2: one thing I did get we talked about all the 1000 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,920 Speaker 2: time on the next Gen stats with the getoff numbers 1001 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 2: for a minimum of twenty five rushes, Josh Sweat for 1002 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,240 Speaker 2: the Eagles was second in the league. Jalen Carter was third, 1003 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 2: Hassan Redick was fourth, and then Fletcher Hawks was seventh, 1004 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: and Milton Williams was eighth. So they had five of 1005 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: the top eight getoffs in the NFL. With the Philadelphia Eagles, 1006 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:36,520 Speaker 2: we talked about the Dolphins having attract team on the outside. 1007 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 2: The dang Eagles got a track team up front. 1008 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,839 Speaker 5: Yeah, coming off the ball as everything they believe in that. 1009 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 5: We've talked a bunch of times on here about how 1010 00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 5: the Eagles believe in the trench's offensive line and defensive line. 1011 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,719 Speaker 5: When you pour that stat it speaks to just a 1012 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,319 Speaker 5: quickness with which they want to play at the point 1013 00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 5: of attack. I want to go back and talk about 1014 00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 5: Jalen Hurst a little bit. And really it's kind of 1015 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 5: a theme that Nick sirr touched on immediately after the game. 1016 00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 4: I guess going back to last year, quarterbacks. 1017 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 5: That don't play a single snap in preseason, I think 1018 00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,560 Speaker 5: their record is seven and thirteen. They have opening game, 1019 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,000 Speaker 5: and so Sirianni was lamenting his plan in terms of 1020 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 5: not getting those guys a handful of snaps to get 1021 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 5: a rhythm in those things. Indeed, when you think about 1022 00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,200 Speaker 5: some of the slow starts, some of the sputtering that 1023 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 5: we saw Joe Burrow didn't play in the preseason, some 1024 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 5: of that. As much as we talk about preserving guys 1025 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 5: and making sure they're healthy, there is a rhythm to 1026 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 5: playing good offensive ball and you can't simulate it in 1027 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 5: joint practices and in you know, your normal practice sessions. 1028 00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,319 Speaker 5: Maybe just maybe Nick Sirianni and some of these other 1029 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,920 Speaker 5: guys are saying, I may need to kind of run 1030 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,440 Speaker 5: the risk of getting my guys out there so we 1031 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:51,440 Speaker 5: can hit the ground running when the season opens up. 1032 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 6: Hey, ded were you surprised we didn't see more DeAndre 1033 00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:56,760 Speaker 6: Swift in this game for the Eagles? 1034 00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:57,160 Speaker 3: Nothing? 1035 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,880 Speaker 2: It was Kenneth Gainwell, like I didn't see that coming. 1036 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,480 Speaker 2: But you know, the one thing I was thinking of 1037 00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 2: watching it is like if teams are going to try 1038 00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 2: and play them like that, and there was I think 1039 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 2: Ian had the report. I know the Eagles traditionally have 1040 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,319 Speaker 2: not invested in the running back position. They've been able 1041 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 2: to find guys. But if this is the confidence level 1042 00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,440 Speaker 2: of DeAndre Swift that he's not even a part of 1043 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 2: their plan, I'm like, you know, hey, if this is 1044 00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:18,880 Speaker 2: a team that's read they feel like was in the 1045 00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 2: Super Bowl last year, can win a super Bowl right now, 1046 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,240 Speaker 2: it's getting to the end with Lane Johnson, with Brandon Graham, 1047 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:29,320 Speaker 2: with some of these pieces like Jonathan Taylor, you I mean, Buck, 1048 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 2: I mean. 1049 00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 3: You've we talked about this. 1050 00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,520 Speaker 2: He's not an older back. This you're not trading for 1051 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 2: a twenty eight, twenty nine year old back like I know. 1052 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: And the Eagles have never taked, they don't take them high. 1053 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 2: They don't like to pay him. You can find them. 1054 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,879 Speaker 2: They've traded and they've got Garrett Blunt on the cheap. 1055 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:44,960 Speaker 2: They got DeAndre Swift on the cheap. But if this 1056 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 2: is what they think of DeAndre Swift and how little 1057 00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:48,840 Speaker 2: they're going to use them then, and teams are going 1058 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:51,440 Speaker 2: to start playing them a little bit different. Then maybe 1059 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,479 Speaker 2: that is something at least you have that conversation, because 1060 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,719 Speaker 2: this is go time. I mean, this is not hey, 1061 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 2: three four years down the line, we'll see. 1062 00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:57,719 Speaker 4: No. 1063 00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 3: You you are ready to win a Super Bowl year. 1064 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:00,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 1065 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,319 Speaker 2: And your biggest rival, the team that you're on a 1066 00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: collision course with, they paid the price to go get 1067 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey, and we saw what he looked like in 1068 00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 2: Week one. 1069 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,839 Speaker 5: They have to do it. It has to be a 1070 00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 5: thing where they need to upgrade that part of it. 1071 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,080 Speaker 5: This is a team that is ready to go, but 1072 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 5: they need to be able to physically kind of control 1073 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 5: it with the running game, and a better back will 1074 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 5: make life easier for Jalen Hurts. 1075 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,959 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then for the Patriots anything on the paper side. 1076 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,319 Speaker 6: Oh, I was just gonna say that throwing the ball 1077 00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 6: fifty four times surprise me, you know, And I wonder 1078 00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 6: if that's you know, obviously they got down early pretty 1079 00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,879 Speaker 6: quick with the Eagles jumping on him, and I guess 1080 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,200 Speaker 6: maybe that shouldn't surprise us that much. 1081 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 1: When you think about what Bill did, Bill O'Brien did 1082 00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,239 Speaker 1: the last time he was there. I mean, you know, 1083 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,520 Speaker 1: he was part of the architect of that, you know, 1084 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 1: of those explosive you know, late two thousands teams for 1085 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 1: the Patriots in early twenty ten and eleven's, you know, 1086 00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: and it was you know, Josh McDaniels when he came back, 1087 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,879 Speaker 1: is when they really kind of started grinding it out 1088 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: and grinding, grind and pounds. 1089 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 6: So maybe it's not maybe I. 1090 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: Shouldn't be surprised, but I was a little little cough 1091 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,479 Speaker 1: guard to see the fifty four different attempts for mac Jones. 1092 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:12,879 Speaker 1: But nice to see him get into the end zone 1093 00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: a couple of times and kind of stay in this 1094 00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,439 Speaker 1: game as the it could have gotten out of hand. 1095 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't get a chance to see as much 1096 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,640 Speaker 2: as the tape on their offense in that one. So 1097 00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 2: something maybe we'll touch on later in the week to 1098 00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:24,600 Speaker 2: add on to what Brette was saying there. It just 1099 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,480 Speaker 2: nobody that really scares you when you look at it, 1100 00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,640 Speaker 2: for sure, all right, last one here the tenth the 1101 00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 2: eighth game we're getting to here, Buck, And that was 1102 00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 2: are we calling this a game? Are we referencing this 1103 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 2: as a game on Sunday night? 1104 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 6: In the world. 1105 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,839 Speaker 4: It was America's team showcase. 1106 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 5: It was the Dallas Cowboy being put on full display 1107 00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 5: taking on a bitter rival in the Giants, And a 1108 00:47:46,080 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 5: lot of the conversation in Dallas is always about Mike McCarthy. 1109 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 4: Dak Press got this offense. 1110 00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:53,920 Speaker 5: But Michael Parsons is trying to bring back the doomsday 1111 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,360 Speaker 5: defense that the Coboys were known for during the seventies, 1112 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,400 Speaker 5: and when you watched them dominate the New York Football Giants, 1113 00:48:01,920 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 5: maybe he has a point that we should pay more 1114 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 5: attention to him there. This defense has seven sacks, had 1115 00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,560 Speaker 5: two interceptions, had a fumble, they had a special teams 1116 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,600 Speaker 5: field goal block that they returned for a touchdown, which 1117 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,720 Speaker 5: is also a defensive play, and they made life absolutely 1118 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 5: miserable for Daniel Jones and company. They just dominated the game. 1119 00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:24,799 Speaker 5: We've seen the Cowboys play great defense. I don't know 1120 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 5: if we ever thought of them as a dominant defense. 1121 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 5: We thought of them as more of an opportunistic, splash play, 1122 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:34,640 Speaker 5: big play defense. But if they play defense like this, man, 1123 00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 5: it's gonna be hard to deal with them. And I 1124 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 5: know the overreaction after the first game is my goodness, 1125 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 5: But Michael Parsons. 1126 00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:42,520 Speaker 4: My goodness. 1127 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,160 Speaker 2: By the way, I don't I don't know where are 1128 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:47,880 Speaker 2: you where you keeping that box? By the way, that 1129 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 2: box we have the nfcast Champ Giants T shirts that 1130 00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,240 Speaker 2: you order. 1131 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:53,879 Speaker 3: Tucked away in. 1132 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:59,880 Speaker 2: Your closet there now where we got. 1133 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 6: I opened it a little too early. 1134 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,879 Speaker 2: I guess I'll tell you what. Good it's good news 1135 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 2: for those kids in that other country. Those things get shipped, 1136 00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:06,320 Speaker 2: you know. 1137 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 6: Shoot, man, they has a work to do. 1138 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 4: You know. 1139 00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,360 Speaker 1: Look, I think the first drive, you know, from the 1140 00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: Giants offense, you move the ball a little bit and 1141 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 1: then they get in field goal range and like holy smokes, 1142 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 1: the wheels just I don't just kind of casually come off. 1143 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: They're like sloating off the axles. After that block field 1144 00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: goal from jan Ye Thomas, another Shrine bowler that we 1145 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: saw a couple of years agoing to Georgia Day. 1146 00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it it just. 1147 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 2: Is that bad. I didn't get a chance to see 1148 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 2: this one. I want to say, this wasn't what. 1149 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:42,520 Speaker 6: We saw this preseason. It was not. I mean, you know, 1150 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:43,480 Speaker 6: Andrew Thomas. 1151 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 1: I even thought, you know, like last year it'd start 1152 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,279 Speaker 1: to show himself as one of the better tackles in 1153 00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,160 Speaker 1: the league. And then you know, everything that I had 1154 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,719 Speaker 1: heard out of Giants cam is that Evan Neil was 1155 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:53,440 Speaker 1: much improved. 1156 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,320 Speaker 6: I mean, look, they struggled. They struggled. 1157 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 3: Well, let me let me let let me ask you this. 1158 00:49:57,680 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 2: Let me let me interrupt you and ask you this, 1159 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:01,319 Speaker 2: because again it's this is why it's kind of fun 1160 00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 2: when you guys have seen it, I haven't seen it. 1161 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:05,839 Speaker 2: So when I see the numbers and Buck talked about 1162 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 2: the dominance, the theory that comes to my mind is, well, 1163 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 2: the Giants spent all off season trying to get speed 1164 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,600 Speaker 2: because they needed more explosive plays. So still, if you 1165 00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 2: want to push the ball down the field and be 1166 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,520 Speaker 2: more explosive, you're gonna have to hold the ball a 1167 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 2: little bit. So maybe last year the lack of explosive players, 1168 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,280 Speaker 2: they knew we can't really do that, so Daniel Jones 1169 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,200 Speaker 2: has to operate quick, get the ball out. 1170 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 3: And then maybe we over. 1171 00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:29,399 Speaker 2: Exaggerated how great this Giant's offensive line was, Like that's 1172 00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:30,840 Speaker 2: the that and I didn't see it. 1173 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,200 Speaker 3: That's why I'm asking you what did it look like? 1174 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, Bucky, I don't know if you if you had 1175 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 6: a thought on that but I would say that I'm 1176 00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:39,719 Speaker 6: not in the I'm not in the camp that they 1177 00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:42,439 Speaker 6: are a great offensive line. Yet I think they are. 1178 00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 6: They I thought they. 1179 00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,799 Speaker 1: Were going to be clearly than they were a year ago. Yeah, clearly, 1180 00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:51,719 Speaker 1: but I just mean coming into the season. And look, 1181 00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:54,320 Speaker 1: I still think that they have an opportunity to be better. 1182 00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:56,879 Speaker 1: And I don't know how much can you really draw 1183 00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,920 Speaker 1: from a game in which, you know, the thing is 1184 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,160 Speaker 1: snowballs so badly, where you're down three scorers fifteen minutes 1185 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,919 Speaker 1: into this game and well that's not a death mel 1186 00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: but like the game plan is changing, like everything that 1187 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,280 Speaker 1: you expected to do in this game is now changing. 1188 00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 1: And look, if we canet hit in the mouth, you 1189 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: want to be able to respond. But man, everything was 1190 00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 1: going wrong and it was just like holy smokes, like 1191 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,240 Speaker 1: what do we you know? And then you know, Daniel 1192 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,760 Speaker 1: Jones is throwing balls out there that he shouldn't be throwing, 1193 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, like again he's looking up at the scoreboard 1194 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: and seeing like, wait, we got to find a way 1195 00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,960 Speaker 1: to make some plays like let me, let's do let 1196 00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 1: me do whatever I can here. 1197 00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,800 Speaker 6: And it just it got absolutely out of control. 1198 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is the Giants, you know, 1199 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,120 Speaker 1: reverting back to a six and eleven football team year. 1200 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 6: I think they're still going to say something about this season. 1201 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 5: I mean, there still plenty of time to rectified. The 1202 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,279 Speaker 5: great thing about the National Football League and the first 1203 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 5: couple of weeks you're still trying to sort out who 1204 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 5: you are. You don't settle into week four, five, six 1205 00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:55,959 Speaker 5: and go on. And so as bad as it looks 1206 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,840 Speaker 5: for the New York Jaints today, they win next week, 1207 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 5: we're right back to talk about what it could be 1208 00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,920 Speaker 5: if Dave All has to kind of this might be 1209 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 5: a buried to ball game. 1210 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 4: In college, we. 1211 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:13,520 Speaker 5: Got who by Maryland one time and coach because brown ball, 1212 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 5: he brought the ball in and we put it in 1213 00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 5: a little casket. We dug a little grave somewhere in 1214 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 5: the far corner of the practice field and we just 1215 00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 5: put the game ball in there and say, guys, we 1216 00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:24,760 Speaker 5: just got to move on to the next one. 1217 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 4: That might be that kind of game for the Giants. 1218 00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 5: Somewhere at their practice facility, maybe there's a little plot 1219 00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,239 Speaker 5: of little plot of land where they can just drop 1220 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,920 Speaker 5: the ball and go on to the next one, because 1221 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 5: there's nothing you can do to bring this one back. 1222 00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 4: You hope to learn from it so they can be 1223 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:39,320 Speaker 4: better next week. 1224 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:42,319 Speaker 2: That's interesting, all right, as a bonus, because those are 1225 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,799 Speaker 2: eight games here. Uh, we got the list of the 1226 00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 2: games and the chat here of the ones we did 1227 00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,439 Speaker 2: not cover one nugget on one of those other games, 1228 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,000 Speaker 2: will each give you one nugget one of those other 1229 00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 2: games again, and people will say, man, you didn't cover 1230 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 2: every single game. There's three of us. We're all out 1231 00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 2: and working on Sunday. So we'd rather go deeper on 1232 00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,560 Speaker 2: eight games and give you a surface level on on 1233 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 2: all of them. But we can give you one nug 1234 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 2: on on on three more games. Here, go ahead, rhtt 1235 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:06,040 Speaker 2: you can pick one. 1236 00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna actually talk a little bit more 1237 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,480 Speaker 1: about Bengals Browns. Jim Schwartz's impact is clear. I mean 1238 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,400 Speaker 1: the way that he is is now toying with offenses 1239 00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:19,560 Speaker 1: and moving you know, Miles Garrett and Zadarius Smith a round. 1240 00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 1: You get Miles Garrett rushing over top of the center 1241 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: like he's actually dancing, Like do you see some of 1242 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: those like watching some of the day, you see him 1243 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:29,920 Speaker 1: actually like kind of just like actually dancing before. 1244 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:30,680 Speaker 6: The like. 1245 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,000 Speaker 1: To toy with guys like I mean that is gonna 1246 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,960 Speaker 1: be I mean that was the worst game of Joe 1247 00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,440 Speaker 1: Burrow's career, and in a lot of ways it felt 1248 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: like the Giants game, like based on the way that 1249 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: a defense dominated and things just kind of never got 1250 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:52,080 Speaker 1: rolling for Joe Burrow company. So credit to Jim Schwartz 1251 00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 1: in the Browns defense. 1252 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:54,600 Speaker 3: All right, Buck, you're up. 1253 00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:55,960 Speaker 4: Great performance. 1254 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,560 Speaker 5: When did we didn't I see coming the Rams absolutely 1255 00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,080 Speaker 5: putting the SmackDown on the Seattle Seahawks. I don't know 1256 00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,040 Speaker 5: if you saw the clip that went viral when Gino 1257 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 5: Smith is dropping hookah was right, but Gino Smith is 1258 00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 5: dropping back. Aaron Donald runs the stunning through and Gina's like, 1259 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:15,279 Speaker 5: oh my. 1260 00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 6: God, like because Aaron Donald's coming. 1261 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 5: I'll say this, severely underestimated the Rams in terms of 1262 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,440 Speaker 5: their talent level. Talked on radio this weekend. They only 1263 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 5: have two stars. They have Matthew Stafford and Aaron Donald. 1264 00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 5: Who are they gonna beat with just two stars? And 1265 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 5: they go and absolutely obliterate the Seattle Seahawks and Seattle 1266 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,080 Speaker 5: Yeah bananas. 1267 00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's legit. I would just say quickly on 1268 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,359 Speaker 2: my last one here, Hey, Jordan Love from the Bill, 1269 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 2: let's give him the bill a little love. They cooked 1270 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:53,319 Speaker 2: him in the other and they didn't cook him in 1271 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 2: the microwave. Gave him the time and uh and missing 1272 00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 2: some pieces out there. It was very very low and slow. Yes, 1273 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,640 Speaker 2: but he looked comfortable. He looked very comfortable. And it 1274 00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,720 Speaker 2: was not the early at competitive game. The Bears cannot 1275 00:55:07,719 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 2: push the ball down the field. For all the talk 1276 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,959 Speaker 2: of look, let's not overreact, I'll give it some more time, 1277 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 2: but I don't love this offensive line. They don't have 1278 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,839 Speaker 2: an aggressive offense, and Justin doesn't really want to push 1279 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 2: the ball down the field. Whether or not they can 1280 00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 2: or he can't, I don't know. But it just didn't happen. 1281 00:55:24,120 --> 00:55:26,279 Speaker 2: They did not attack at all. It was a very 1282 00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 2: very passive approach offensively. It was not going to get 1283 00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 2: it done. So the Packers continue their dominance on that one. 1284 00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,000 Speaker 2: Before we get out of here, Buck, I don't know 1285 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,560 Speaker 2: if you've seen this yet. Rhett has seen it because 1286 00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 2: I showed him on Sunday. But so this long backstory 1287 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,480 Speaker 2: on this thing. We have Sauce Gardner come on. We 1288 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,120 Speaker 2: have him come on with us at the combine and 1289 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:49,719 Speaker 2: he's there with Rich and I and we start talking 1290 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,920 Speaker 2: to him, he's got one of his real nice pieces 1291 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,359 Speaker 2: of jewelry on. So we ask him about, like where 1292 00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 2: do you even get something like that, Like you can't 1293 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,600 Speaker 2: just go down to the little He's like, oh, I 1294 00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 2: get Al the Jeweler. Al the Jeweler is my guy. 1295 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 2: So he hooks it up. Okay, nice, Al Jeweler taking 1296 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:04,279 Speaker 2: care of you. And then Rich said, I probably knew 1297 00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:05,839 Speaker 2: Al the Jeweler. He's in New Jersey, like I probably 1298 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,279 Speaker 2: grew up with Al the Jeweler. May I have fun 1299 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,200 Speaker 2: with it? So then Sauce comes back on us with 1300 00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,759 Speaker 2: us at the draft and uh, in the middle of 1301 00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:15,839 Speaker 2: that interview, I said to him, Hey, you got Aaron 1302 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,919 Speaker 2: Rodgers your new team at I guarantee Aaron Rodgers doesn't 1303 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 2: have any you know, jewelry. You gotta you gotta get 1304 00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,600 Speaker 2: Al the Jeweler to hook him up. Al hooks him up. 1305 00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 2: He saw it on Hard Knocks, the number eight pennant 1306 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 2: that he got, So Al the Jeweler finds me on Instagram. 1307 00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 2: So we we connect and had good, good connection there 1308 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,040 Speaker 2: and we got together and said, okay, let's do a 1309 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 2: little something. So maybe the next year at the combine, 1310 00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 2: we'll have sauce back, well, rich, and I'll be ready 1311 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:43,120 Speaker 2: to go. So he got we got rich and nice nice, 1312 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,760 Speaker 2: nice piece of jewelry. It says rich on it buck. 1313 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,920 Speaker 2: But then so then this one at which we can. 1314 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:59,320 Speaker 7: Oh, yes, wait, work out the jeweler. 1315 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll get it done, getting it done. So I would, 1316 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,959 Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, maybe back in high school. 1317 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,000 Speaker 2: I really it really pops off the black right there. 1318 00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 3: Though doesn't but it really does. 1319 00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:11,920 Speaker 4: It is. 1320 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 3: No, that's that's that's really gorgeous. 1321 00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,120 Speaker 4: That's really that's really that's really nice DJ. 1322 00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,360 Speaker 5: But I would, I would, I would say, I would 1323 00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 5: say the next time, the next time that you talk 1324 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,280 Speaker 5: with el the jeweler, because you're you're a Padres fan 1325 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 5: and you know what it should look like as a 1326 00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,760 Speaker 5: baseball guy. 1327 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like we got to cuban link the 1328 00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:31,760 Speaker 4: chains out a little, go. 1329 00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 3: A little thicker, go thicker. Yeah. 1330 00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna Yeah I didn't, I didn't really, you know, 1331 00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:41,400 Speaker 2: just a little, a little and then it can be 1332 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 2: a little a little tighter up here. 1333 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:44,000 Speaker 6: I like it. 1334 00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:45,840 Speaker 5: I like it. But then we're falling more in line 1335 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 5: with the cute category. We want you to be a 1336 00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,520 Speaker 5: more ling more than bleak. 1337 00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:51,040 Speaker 4: I got. 1338 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,440 Speaker 6: To start somewhere, guys. 1339 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:59,440 Speaker 3: Like, you know, star, this is my this is my jewelry. 1340 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:03,280 Speaker 4: Start like I do like it and I haven't like 1341 00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:04,000 Speaker 4: I like blame. 1342 00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,960 Speaker 2: I like so the true story, true story. I told 1343 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 2: my wife, I'm like, you know what, I'm not really 1344 00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:12,960 Speaker 2: a jewelry person. So you know, hey, it's all yours. 1345 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:15,640 Speaker 2: And she's like, what, we're gonna Move the Sticks chain, Like. 1346 00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:17,000 Speaker 3: What are you talking about? 1347 00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 2: I said, no, no, hey, MTS, MTS is whatever you want 1348 00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:23,840 Speaker 2: to make it much too sexy. I mean, whatever you 1349 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:28,000 Speaker 2: want it, whatever it stands for, its to you. Yeah, 1350 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 2: come on anyways, shout out to al We appreciate you. 1351 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:34,439 Speaker 3: Game day morning. 1352 00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,560 Speaker 2: We appreciate you, buddy. All right, that's gonna do it 1353 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:38,720 Speaker 2: for us today. Change you guys, hang with us again. 1354 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,080 Speaker 2: You don't have to wait long. We're five days a 1355 00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 2: week in the fall this year with Move the Sticks. 1356 00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:46,240 Speaker 2: Do us a solid? Oh yeah, big video show tomorrow. 1357 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,959 Speaker 2: We'll have shows all week long. Do us a solid. 1358 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:50,680 Speaker 2: If you haven't already, leave us a rating and review, 1359 00:58:50,720 --> 00:58:53,040 Speaker 2: we appreciate that. Get the word out. Uh, plenty of 1360 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,720 Speaker 2: more Move the Sticks coming your way and tomorrow, which 1361 00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,600 Speaker 2: we didn't discuss today, will Unfortunately, I'll have to concede 1362 00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,040 Speaker 2: another Move the Sticks Bowl to Bucky in the North 1363 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 2: Carolina tar Heels the Mountaineers. The app State Mountaineers came 1364 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 2: up a little short, double overtime, couldn't get it done. 1365 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,000 Speaker 2: But three games in the series, all three of them 1366 00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,400 Speaker 2: nail Biers, phenomenal games. Bucket wins the series two to one. 1367 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,800 Speaker 2: We'll jump into that tomorrow as well. All right, that's 1368 00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 2: gonna do it. We'll see it next time right here on. 1369 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:19,320 Speaker 3: Move the Sticks