1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: Around the NFL podcast Ragged Courts of Thunder. Only two 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: stars from the Chris Westlake podcast studio. It's around the NFL. 3 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hansas, Greg Rosal, I mean that's his that's 4 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: his podcast, that's one of his many sub podcasts. And 5 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: yet two stars is coming from Mark Sessler. No. No, 6 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: In fact, I have co teened with Grets some illustrations 7 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: to help promote the Courts of Thunder brand. I think 8 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 1: someone in this room actually coined Courts of Thunder a 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: couple of years ago. So I'm that's Mark as well. 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Mark is actually technically the only employee of Courts of Thunder. 11 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not artist, our artist. I am completely disconnected 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: from that. I p I just I cannot do it 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: well now it's we know where to when when football came? 14 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 1: When football arrived, there is no more tennis podcast, but 15 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: the Jessel Nickol Rosenthal Vanity Project is rolling right. You 16 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: know you couldn't you couldn't just let it go. How 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: to get your plugs in? Like, I'm not going to 18 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 1: say that. The Throwback Podcast an evergreen show dedicated to 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: a study of alternative rock music of the nineteen nineties 20 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 1: with me and my friend bobcast. Would you check out 21 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: right now wherever you get your podcast, I wouldn't do that. 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: You don't need to mention anyway, not just about the music. 23 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 1: It's about friendship. Speaking of friends, got one right here. 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: She is, I mean, she's a star. I mean we're 25 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: lucky to have her. Let's just start there. Um and uh. 26 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: She is on many a program including Power Rankings on 27 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: NFL Network, including Game Day Picks Live with Greg Roll. 28 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: She is Cynthia Freeland. Welcome back to the Around the 29 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: NFL podcast. He's glad to be here. Thanks for having me. 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: Really going kind of with like the a s mr 31 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 1: type of voice there. I mean I just felt like 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,760 Speaker 1: it matched the It really matched the like the song 33 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: in the background. Ye, that's you. Totally nailed it. And 34 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: that's a good sign for the rest of the show. 35 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: The reason I always use that drop for guests me 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: and Ricky Shorthand it's called sausage fingers because it's a 37 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: YouTube clip of a man with like road tun fingers, 38 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: like shredding beautifully. Uh. And whenever we introduce a guest 39 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: with the music, what how they explain the music? There's 40 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: a little bit of a window into who they are. 41 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 1: Like I remember when Kyle Brant was on the show, 42 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: He's like, oh, yeah, this is from Silk Stockings Build 43 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Red Shoe Diaries. I think it was. Actually, uh so 44 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: that you see is more like this is a chill 45 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: I feel like an eighties movie like Tequila Sunrise or 46 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: something like that. Like it's you know, like a dramatic scene, 47 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: like there's a big decision to be made and someone's 48 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: contemplating it at the beach, and like, you know, definitely 49 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:45,760 Speaker 1: exactly less for montage where there's a lot of cleaning 50 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: inside the head of the character turning point is on 51 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: the way exactly. It's like just sitting it, like you know, 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: next to the lifeguard station, just maybe in eighties. So 53 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: they were probably smoking a cigarette. But you know, and 54 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: we also know from talking with Cynthia, we won't we 55 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 1: don't need to get into this further that that particular 56 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: their player, Yeah, with the rotun fingers would be very 57 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 1: be fine with it. Well no, I mean, yeah, Cindy 58 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: doesn't like a man with small fingers. That's a small 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: hands is a it's a deal breaker if you're in 60 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: the market for a Cynthia Freeland Um and Greg's eyes 61 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: light up. When I mentioned Red Shoe Diaries. He's like, 62 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: which episode, which season is that? The David Duke Company years? 63 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: Is it the app with matt le Blanc in it? Anyway, 64 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: apparently I know a lot about that. Yeah, I was 65 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: a teen boy in the nineties. I'll leave it there. Now. 66 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: Why is Cynthia Freeland here. It's not to talk about 67 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: little Hands, it's not to talk about soft poor, softcore 68 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: pornography on Cinemax. It is to talk about the midpoint 69 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: of the season, although you're welcome to talk about any 70 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: of those things. Um, we call it today's conversation Cindy's 71 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: pretty hate machine. So listen to this little nine inch 72 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: nail speaking intern rock As as you look into you 73 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: have a machine that you use that compiles data. Um, 74 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: you're very talented in this realm. And we want to 75 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: know as we turned towards the second half of the season, 76 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: which teams are about to rise up and grab playoff 77 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: spots and who are some of the playoff position teams 78 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: that are going to fall out? Is the machine going 79 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: to help us there? Yes, the model, that's all the answers. 80 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: The player is like, like, I just want to know something. 81 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: Do you think, like, what do you think that it 82 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: like looks like do you think that like the machine 83 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: tells me what to do? Is it like terminators? It 84 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 1: come to a lot like like how do you think 85 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: this works? Like how does this work? In your head? 86 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 1: I think at one point you did mention that it 87 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,160 Speaker 1: was in your bedroom, so I imagine there to be 88 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: like remember during the Cold War when the USA and 89 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: USSR would have dueling supercomputers to figure out who could 90 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: I pictured that like the nineteen seventies supercomputer that takes 91 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 1: up of your bedroom space? What does heat me in 92 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: the winter? So that that helps me on? Comes out 93 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: of it? Like when when there's like a crazy pick six, 94 00:04:56,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: just like upon your last visit, I think I actually 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: requested and this was you know, pre Corona years ago, 96 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 1: and I understand that you you know, we've all been distracted, 97 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 1: but um for a photograph it looks like and I'm 98 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: still waiting for that. I'll get it for you. I'm sorry, 99 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: I told I told you it's literally like it's not 100 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: as it's gonna make Dan upset. I gotta like maybe 101 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: you could draw, like I'll send it to you and 102 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 1: you could draw rendition of it, because I don't want 103 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: to upset Dan because it's not that like exciting. It 104 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: looks like a like a but you don't want it shared. 105 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: It would be secret information. Well it's like you can't 106 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: see anything right, Like it's like a tower. It's a 107 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: few towers. It's just the point of having the towers 108 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: so you have more RAM, meaning it can go faster. 109 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 1: So then the models will take like a week to 110 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: produce results. You run three thousand projections for each remaining games, 111 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: every every you need a lot of RAM. It's just 112 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 1: an excuse so that when it picks a game that 113 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: like Cynthia doesn't totally agree with, she's like, oh, the 114 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: model did it. I mean I programmed the model, so 115 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 1: I have the brain of the computer. So it's it's 116 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: really all my all. This just tries to make it 117 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: so that's like, you know, not biased. So we're gonna 118 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: talk about Cindy's pretty hate machine. We're going to hit 119 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: the Thursday Night football previews, we look ahead to week 120 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,040 Speaker 1: ten Baltimore at Miami. We're gonna hit Monday Night Football, 121 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: the recap. But I just want to get one thing, 122 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: one more thing. As we set the table for today's show, 123 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: Um Mark apologies again with the situation with Chris Rose 124 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Was unfortunate that Greg and I brought it up, 125 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: Um that we thought that you were shaded up. We 126 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:30,039 Speaker 1: thought that you were being short with Chris about his 127 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: Brown's excitement when he rolled over to our area and 128 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: you said things like I don't think they're very good. 129 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: And then you came on our show and you were 130 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: like it so happy about the Browns. It was like, 131 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: why didn't Chris get the same thing. It wasn't so 132 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: much like the length, but the lack of enthusiasm, just like, 133 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna meet you where you are, Chris, Right, 134 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: you guys practice this before that show. You're a little 135 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,559 Speaker 1: and you're gonna and you're gonna say, oh, Dan, another 136 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: manufactured joke. This isn't real. This is absolutely real. I've 137 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: gotten to know Chris a little better this year during 138 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: the season, and uh we exchange phone numbers at one 139 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: point and actually got this voicemail, uh late last night. 140 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: This is Doug Boat. You know the drill. It's Chris 141 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 1: Rose from NFL Network. You're doing well, Neil. Little advice here. 142 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: The other day I walked past you and Cessler and 143 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: and Greg, and I wanted to talk to Mark about 144 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: the Browns, uh, and he just kind of blew me off. 145 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't know why he was short 146 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: with me. I don't know if there's something going on, 147 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: if he's piste off or what. I was hoping to 148 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: then talk to him during the Sunday night game when 149 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: we all watch together in the theater and he wasn't there, 150 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: and you weren't there, and Greg with two cheese was 151 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: the only one there, and I don't know why it's 152 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: two geese. But anyway, um, so I don't know if 153 00:07:39,720 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: you could maybe call me back and shed a little 154 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: light on this. I mean, Mark and I have been buddies, 155 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 1: I thought for a few years. And it took like 156 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: all the strength in the world to not walk past 157 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: him and make fun of that really ridiculous cheesy mustache 158 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 1: he was trying to grow out of. Oh wow, anyway, 159 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: just get a chance to give me a call so 160 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: we can talk it out, because, um, I really I'm 161 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,679 Speaker 1: kind of hurt by it all. Thanks. I mean again, 162 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: not not manufactured. That was a real voice mail sounds No, 163 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, friendships, Um, I have been friends 164 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: with Chris rose for for a long while. At this point, 165 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: well shared you know, shared interests. But friendships go through 166 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,559 Speaker 1: different phases, and I you know, there's challenging phases. There's 167 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: like we have to grow, and maybe this is a 168 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: point of growth for me. I'm not always going to argue, 169 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: uh you guys when you create these things. I like, 170 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 1: in this case, I'm saying, like it maybe it was real. 171 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: I am learning now that my I impact some people 172 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: may be the wrong way at times, and you know, 173 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: check yourself at the door. Cindy has someone like as 174 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: an outsider on this, what's your take? I mean, I've 175 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: been to a lot of therapy, so I thought his 176 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 1: response was like just really like I mean marks just 177 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: like a big man. Like that's like a very smart, 178 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: like very educated, very you know, like a lot of empathy, 179 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: a lot of like emotional maturity. There will I put 180 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,160 Speaker 1: it into action. That's big. Where was the at the 181 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: on Sunday night. I think it wasn't there. It was 182 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: a lot of hitting now, it was a lot of 183 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: pushing back. It is an interesting window though, you mean 184 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,600 Speaker 1: you talked about points of relationships that Chris and Dan 185 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: are at the point where Chris is now leaving long 186 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,960 Speaker 1: voice Why did you send him to voice mail? If 187 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: you guys are so closed, that was taping Powerking. Yeah, 188 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: it's the minute you get Dan involved, things become destabilized 189 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: with friendship, the first part of the friendship. So just 190 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: you gotta be aware of that. UM, all right, I'm 191 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,679 Speaker 1: I'm just caught in the middle as usual. All right, 192 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: here we go. That's what's going on with that, and 193 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: we'll keep you updated the listeners. Uh, if that could 194 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: be repaired that relationship. I just would also like to 195 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: put out like Chris Rose and I really close. He 196 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: like he like actually like tweeted a photo or you know, 197 00:09:43,880 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: Instagram story to photo of me on Sunday, so I could. 198 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna check up with him in two thousand twenty one. 199 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: That is the greatest indicator of true friendship. Obviously, let's 200 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: check out some Monday night football. Put a bow on 201 00:09:54,920 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: Week nine, down long enough, Hi, Gordon pass Well, an 202 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: incredible minded field has put the Steelers on top six 203 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: seconds to go. Oh my goodness, are the Steelers good? 204 00:10:18,360 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: I'm really not sure, but they won the game. They 205 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: did over the Bears, a Chicago Bears team. Cynthia Freeland 206 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: that put up a fight that was in danger of 207 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 1: getting blown out of that building early. But with their 208 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: young quarterback who threw for yards in a touchdown in 209 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 1: the second half, they battled and battled and battled, took 210 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: the lead, and then there's Big Ben in the offense 211 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: getting that last drive to score uh and win the game. 212 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 1: Where do you come down on Steelers? After watching this 213 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: particular game, my first note is I never want to 214 00:10:54,840 --> 00:11:00,040 Speaker 1: see Ben Roethlisberger run again, not ever. I was, I 215 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: was like, wow, they're talking about that last designed run 216 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: where he thought he was about to have his John 217 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 1: ol a moment and kind of fight through that tackle, 218 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: and he looked like like it was like like there 219 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 1: was mud on the field suddenly, and he was so slow. 220 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 1: It was I was. I was shocked, And I can't 221 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: image the force would take to make Big Ben helicopter. 222 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: He's more like one of those giant aircraft carriers there. 223 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: Just you're not going to spin him. No, no, anyway. Anyways, UM, 224 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: I think we see a really interesting thing about the 225 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: Chicago Bears offense, meaning I think Justin Fields is finally 226 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: starting to take that step forward. It seemed like at 227 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: least he could recognize zone defense a little bit better 228 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,720 Speaker 1: and was able to find and connect with his receivers 229 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 1: in zone, and that's hard to see. It's not easy 230 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: when you got a man. A man is way easier 231 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: for rookie quarterbacks to be able to pick up on 232 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: zone defense a little trickier, there are bigger holes in it. 233 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 1: But throwing your receiver open then becomes more important, which 234 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: means justin Fields is now taking a step forward and 235 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 1: recognizing the defense a little bit better. So that's interesting. Also, 236 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: I think there were some really strange penalties in that game. 237 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,320 Speaker 1: Was kind of my like overall overall, take away right 238 00:12:01,360 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: the penalties, I'm sure we'll get to, but fields, even 239 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: though they lost, felt like the biggest story, and I 240 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 1: think he took a couple of lessons from his first 241 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,439 Speaker 1: also that like to run right into Devin Bush was like, 242 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: why are you doing that? You don't want to do. 243 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: But for the most part, his instinct the last two weeks, 244 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: when the throws aren't there to run decisively have helped 245 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: him out and they've picked up a lot of first 246 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: downs are picked up six or seven yards. His best 247 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: two games of the season are easily the last two. 248 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: I think he was nine for fifteen on throws over 249 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: ten yards. His his deep throws were great, and he 250 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: kept going for it from the pocket. Like if you're 251 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: a Bears fan. It's almost the perfect situation according to 252 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: the Bears fans I know, which is that they want 253 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: Naggy gone, but they want Fields to be the truth, 254 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: which is a hard thing to balance so that you 255 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: get the most of best. You got the best of 256 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 1: both worlds here because their defense at the end of 257 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: that game is what lost the game. Is total total 258 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: coaching meltdown in that in that field gold drive, where 259 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: the players were absolutely confused. The fields looks good, the 260 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:06,840 Speaker 1: coaching still bad. You get both, get both. I don't 261 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: know if I trust Bears ownership to understand the divide 262 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: between Matt Nig's either helpfulness or lack of helpfulness. Um 263 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: And what Justin Fields is is someone that's becoming, especially 264 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: over the last two weeks, more comfortable, more daring do 265 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: using his athleticism, his legs. And I thought last night 266 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: ripping the ball a couple of times, getting Allen Robinson 267 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: involved for the first time on that team in roughly 268 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: two decades. I mean that would have been a touchdown 269 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: if Robinson also showed up. Jimmy Graham was there on 270 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: the field, who knew the past came to the future. 271 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: I think you have hope as a Bears fan, and 272 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't really matter the results of these games down 273 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: the stretch. In fact, would be better if they lost 274 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of more games to clear house. Yeah, I 275 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: think I don't know what Bears ownership. I think they 276 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: understand what's going on here. The Naggi is a guy 277 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: that's on the ropes, and Bill Laser his having greater 278 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: control of the play calling is now connecting to justin 279 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: fields looking better and also, by the way, rookie quarterbacks 280 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: just get better typically if they if they're the real 281 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 1: deal as the season goes along. So I think that's 282 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: what we're seeing that's exciting. Uh, there was some money 283 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: throws by fields there. And on the Pittsburgh side of things, 284 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: they're really a tough team to get a handle of. 285 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: You got t J. Watt and he's doing his t J. 286 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: Watt thing, and you still have that, you still have 287 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: that Hines Field home field advantage, and and that's a 288 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: great thing too. But I just feel like this offense 289 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: put it this way. I thought they were cooked after 290 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: they lost the lead, I didn't think the offense was 291 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: gonna be able to get it done. And I think 292 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: Chicago's defense with all the errors and mental errors really 293 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: bailed him out in a lot of ways. Um, they 294 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: didn't know what coverages they were in it. Yeah, I 295 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: don't know, there's clear confusion. I think. I think the 296 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 1: Steelers are a team because they're well coached and they 297 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: have these big time players dotted throughout the roster. We'll 298 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: get to the nine or ten wins that might get 299 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: them into the playoffs. But I just don't see him 300 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: as that kind of upper tier a f C team. 301 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: I do think though, like against Cleveland, and you know, 302 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: we all saw the photos the film coming out of 303 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: that at the offensive line, which was a dis astor 304 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: early on meshed against Cleveland, and I think they continue 305 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: to grow. And that's what you want to ride that, 306 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: because it's not the offense has changed a little bit. 307 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: It's a it's transformed. But I mean they're months away 308 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: from needing a quarterback of their own right this big 309 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: Bend season. It's it's almost charming, like he's giving in 310 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 1: his own I mean, I hate as a person, I've 311 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: never like I've never been on what I'm trying to 312 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:29,600 Speaker 1: that sideline. He's not charming in fact, like he did 313 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: the thing where he that Ben's laugh as we've you know, 314 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: featured on this show over the years. Very like when 315 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 1: they asked me, he's like, how are you feeling? You 316 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: know when when you watched justin Fields going, he's like 317 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: he's feeling a little nervous, and it's just like, who 318 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: are you out of person? But like he's giving it 319 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: his all, like I saw. I don't want to steal 320 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: the joke, but when when he threw that that deep 321 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: shot to Deante Johnson and someone said it looked like, 322 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: you know, I was trying to hit a three yard 323 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: drive with an eight iron or something like he put 324 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: his back into that throw and like we learned how 325 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: far he and throw it at this point, which is 326 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: about forty five yards, And like they're doing the best 327 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: they can't. I don't think their defense is quite good 328 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: enough to make up for I mean, they had a 329 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: chance to close out that game in the fourth quarter 330 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 1: and they couldn't do it and they got bailed out. 331 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 1: Uh to other names, Pat Friar muth I got a 332 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,360 Speaker 1: feeling Mark that guy's gonna annoy you for a while. 333 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean like seven to ten years. He annoyed me 334 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: last week and he continues investment in that draft pick. 335 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: And Cassius Marsh, I'm sorry, dude, I am so sorry. 336 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 1: And you look badass in the press conference, and kudos 337 00:16:34,360 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: to you for looking the way that you do. But like, 338 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: come on, and this is a big story right now. 339 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's talking speaking out on it. Mike Tomlin even like 340 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 1: got out there and said, hey, we're just trying to 341 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: clean the game up. He said, he's a member of 342 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: the competition committee. We embrace the responsibility that comes with 343 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: being the role models that we are. Well, I don't know, Mike, 344 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: if it happened the other one, the shoe was on 345 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: the other foot. I don't know if you're making that 346 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 1: quote today. That was a BS call on Marsh and 347 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: the way the official kind of backed into him through 348 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: the flag are we doing? And he said he felt 349 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: it was taunting any time that the official has to 350 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: use the words. I felt that it's using so much subjectivity. 351 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: We've seen the NFL course correct on some of these 352 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: rules emphasis um points midway through seasons before they don't 353 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 1: announce it publicly. But suddenly remember the other season when 354 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: they just stopped calling holding after every right, and there's 355 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: been a couple of ones like this with the catch rule. 356 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: I think it's time. I was hoping as I was 357 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,160 Speaker 1: watching that that maybe this will be the moment where 358 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: they're like, let's back off the taunting. It needs to 359 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: happen in these primes. And he called it a point 360 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: was it's a point of emphathy. It's it was a 361 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: great football moment that you know, he that the practice 362 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: and the off season there, he was there on their preseason, 363 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 1: so he so in a sense that like goes to 364 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,919 Speaker 1: Carenti's point that he felt like it was something because 365 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 1: in a way it was. He just was looking over 366 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,680 Speaker 1: at the other sideline, but like it's an emotional game. 367 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 1: That was a beautiful moment, like you cut me, I 368 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: just made this play. It would be nice if the 369 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 1: ESPN booth, who had another rough night like had that 370 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: and could provide that context to the listener because none 371 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,040 Speaker 1: of us knew it, were knowing that at the time. Um, 372 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,680 Speaker 1: but like that happened. That's why you listen to the radio, 373 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: really great radio called on that. You just watch it 374 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: and you time it up. Hit pause. It's great. I 375 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: didn't let me say this, but you brought it up. Ready. 376 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: When it's six, after the Bears touchdown to tie it 377 00:18:30,760 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 1: and the Steelers go offside on the extra point and 378 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 1: Greasy starts saying out loud, maybe we'll go for two here, bro, 379 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 1: it's I mean, I think he checked himself after, but 380 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 1: I mean the Steve Levy called where he made the 381 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 1: whole country think it went off the crossbar, and I've 382 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 1: heard people go like, well, it looked like it. But 383 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: he's in the stadium. That's the advantage of being in 384 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:59,120 Speaker 1: the stadium. Don't watch the monitor. They're they're killing me. 385 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: They're killing That's why I gotta listen to the radio. 386 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: And my last thing. In the NBA, for instance, and 387 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: like the playoffs, the referees put the whistle in their 388 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: pocket unless they really have to call you. Let the 389 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: players figure out these big moments. On a third down 390 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 1: sack where you're getting off the field in a close game, 391 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: oh my god, you gotta look the other way. All right, 392 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: there we go Monday night football. By the way, I 393 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: have to give cash this smart some credit. They kept 394 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: that camera on him and he did not like I 395 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: thought he was gonna cry for a minute, and then 396 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: he pulled it together and like really like you saw 397 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: him like dig pretty deep there to find some composure. 398 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: So I don't know, I like that story. Like if 399 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,480 Speaker 1: I made a practice squad and then I made it 400 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 1: like a crazy insane play and then I looked at 401 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: them and do I probably would have cried. So his 402 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: coach ripped them up as and then he came back 403 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 1: and apologizing because he was like, oh, yeah, that was 404 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 1: nice anyway, but yeah, no, I appreciated that like a 405 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: moment of like grace. And he said. People say, well, 406 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: at least it didn't like change how it totally changed. 407 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: It would have been a total different if the amount 408 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 1: and that's what I wish people would have talked about more. 409 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,119 Speaker 1: You talked about analytics, the analytics of the time on 410 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: that are you totally change the difference? How much time 411 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: would have been left for then you know the Bears 412 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: who showed that they could score very quickly, they would 413 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: have had another drive, not just that with the time analytics. 414 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 1: That's all right, let's pause right here for a break. 415 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Cynthia Freelan screaming time for her 416 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 1: pretty hate machine. It's in her room. I see it 417 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: as a giant Cold War supercomputer. I don't need to 418 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: hear anything else. And that's you know, when we're thinking 419 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,880 Speaker 1: about okay, first half of the season virtually it's over. 420 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,879 Speaker 1: Now we look ahead. Let's talk about it, greg Mark. 421 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,399 Speaker 1: Throughout you could throw out some teams that you feel 422 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: one way or the other about, whether about surge or 423 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: fall off. But I'd like to start with Cynthia. When 424 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 1: you ran it through your model, Um, were there any 425 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: teams that really jumped out to you that are going 426 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: win way or the other. Let's start. We'll start where 427 00:20:54,840 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: we want. Well, I think ahead of the season, I 428 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: think we were all, I mean, look a little shocked. 429 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: The Patriots, no one to know what to do with 430 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: fringe potentially, you know, maybe make the and now it's 431 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: gonna be very hard for them not to make the playoffs. 432 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: And the a f C is a very much better conference. 433 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Just that, you know, the middle of the a f 434 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 1: C is stronger than the NFC. The guys at the 435 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 1: top or GRAE and then the ones at the bottom 436 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: are the Lions. So ultimately the differential between the two 437 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: is very big. You know, take out the Jags and 438 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,400 Speaker 1: take out It's gonna be hard to get that seven six. 439 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,679 Speaker 1: It's gonna be hard to get six and seven in 440 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: the a f C than it is going to be 441 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: in the NFC. And it's interesting. And then the other 442 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: one that's like really quite interesting to me is you know, 443 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. When I looked ahead of the season, 444 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: I really I would I was very I thought that 445 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: the Colts would be stronger, and I think we're going 446 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 1: to see them push up higher. I think they had 447 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: an unfortunate beginning to the season. Injuries plagued them, and 448 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,400 Speaker 1: I do think that they're going to end up making 449 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: a Do you have wind totals? Projected wind totals? All right? 450 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: What are the called in the paths? Former rivals? Okay, 451 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: so well, I got an article coming out later on this, 452 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 1: So well, we can embargo the show until it's yeah, 453 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: embargo tell you that we're going to the best possible 454 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,560 Speaker 1: right now, Patriots have a chance making the playoffs, which, 455 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: by the way, I'm pretty conservative. You know that guy 456 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 1: do Greg knows like some of these wind projection models 457 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 1: get like wild and that's just not the case, right, So, um, 458 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: and that means they're most likely going to be either. 459 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 1: So it's nine point seven, which is like, obviously it's 460 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: a model, so it's never going to be perfectly the number. Okay, 461 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: very mad about exactly. People get really mad about fractional games. 462 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: But you have to remember my point here that the 463 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 1: a f C, the middle of the a f C stronger. 464 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: The point seven matters, right, So you just to look 465 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: at the order more than you at the colts. So 466 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: I've got colds here, and I guess, yeah, of course 467 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: you have the cold at They got a hold of 468 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: a dig out of here. I think you've got the 469 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: cults at nine point three. Anyone else. You pitched them 470 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: as sort of spicy a minute ago. So I'm gonna 471 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:15,440 Speaker 1: go nine point six. You got it. It's pretty good, Mark, 472 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: I'm your computer. One. He wins nine point six. All right. 473 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: Remember remember these are very these are small, and it's 474 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: based on the schedule, correct, and remember they also have 475 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 1: the advantage of playing you know, they have a division 476 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: that's pretty that's pretty um, but that makes sense. So 477 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 1: they're gonna win nine or ten games. The Pats are. 478 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: They feel like a ten and seven team right now. 479 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: I'd like that. How about the other side, so those 480 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: and way the way the ANC is set up. It's 481 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: so wild right now, it's so out of control. It 482 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: feels so fluid that I do think I think a 483 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: nine and eight can get you in. There's basically twelve 484 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: teams if you eliminate the Jets Jags, which just remember, 485 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: just remember they have the Colts, have the Jags twice. 486 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 1: Still one more Textans. So there's three games right there. 487 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: That's a the Steelers struggle. If you look at their 488 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 1: schedule after this Lions. Yeah, the Steelers, at least in Vegas, 489 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 1: they probably would be underdogs for their last eight games. Yeah, 490 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 1: I only have them favored against the Vikings. It's very close. 491 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: That's the last one. We're they're close. Like the Jaguars 492 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: Buffalo outcome is a perfect example. The FC seems so 493 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,239 Speaker 1: strange right now that looking at a schedules, going this 494 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 1: is gonna work, this is gonna work, This won't work. 495 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: It just feels like it's a fool's air. And that's 496 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: why you need the machine to step in and give 497 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: a little more data. Give me here. I'm going to 498 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: make you an analogy of what the machine does. Right. 499 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 1: It's bad English, So you guys who actually know grammar 500 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: like this is not the right English, but like there's 501 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: overwhelmed and there's underwhelmed. Like all I'm trying to figure 502 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: out is what that line is, Like what's welmed? Right? 503 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: So like you can say, Okay, I think it's more 504 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: than that or less than that? Overpaid and underpaid? Well, 505 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: what's paid? God? I have can I ask the NFC team? Yeah, 506 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 1: because like I wanted this, let's guess the number two, 507 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: Let's keep doing that. Yeah, And I want to know 508 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: the process because like a team like the Saints that 509 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:03,400 Speaker 1: I think it's been kind of battling our expectations. Strange, 510 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: very strange, and very strange you do with your with 511 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: the supercomputer when like let's say, so Jamis goes down, 512 00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 1: you're dealing with Trevor Simeon. You're getting a little bit 513 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: of Taysom Hill in there. The defense is rising, Like 514 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,120 Speaker 1: I trust them to be really well coached, Like where 515 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 1: do you see him winding up? And how do you 516 00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: how does your process change when like chaos occurs to 517 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 1: human beings. The good news about the Saints is that 518 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: despite being chaotic you mentioned it, the coach is very 519 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: like Sean Payton is one of my favorite to track 520 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: because he's got he's very um reliably aggressive or non aggressive. 521 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: It's he's situationally very He's a very consistent human being 522 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 1: over time. He doesn't change his coaching strategy very often. 523 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: You see it, you kind of know when you're watching 524 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: you can feel, oh, this is a taste. He is 525 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: always is the same. You get like a great or 526 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 1: a number from you that you plug in, Like how 527 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: do you see? I just like consistency, like be who 528 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: you are, then I can model you easier just from 529 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: Jamis downward to Simeon or how does that work? Yeah, Like, look, 530 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,280 Speaker 1: we have a lot of Simion data. Though it's not 531 00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: like I'm going from uh, Mike White exactly from Mike 532 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: White to Josh anyways anyway, so it doesn't even matter there, 533 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 1: But so we do have that. One's not the hardest 534 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: one to shoot this season so far, especially with a 535 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,479 Speaker 1: good defense and their defensive state very consistent year every 536 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: year in terms of who the players are. When you 537 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: have a lot of turnover, it makes it more difficult 538 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,120 Speaker 1: for the for the I'm gonna guess, I'll guess ten 539 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: point one because I doing game debut with you every week. 540 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: I know which teams the model, which is often but 541 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 1: not always uh, teams that Vegas loves and to that point, 542 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 1: like the Saints are barely an underdog. Let's talk about 543 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee this weekend against Simeon. So I'm going high and 544 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm going ten point ten point two to get closer. 545 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,679 Speaker 1: I told you how there's the ones that have like that. 546 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: They don't ever land on the normal number. It's ten 547 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: prices rules. You can't say the Let's be clear, it's 548 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: good when I give my numbers before Vegas gives there. 549 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 1: So I'm not trying to get My point is is 550 00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 1: it is good, but it's good. Vegas is way better 551 00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: at my job than me, and we do similar say 552 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 1: that allowed though that's like no. But my point is 553 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 1: is when the things end up the same, people on 554 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Twitter like, oh, you just copying the Vegas number two. No, No, 555 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,119 Speaker 1: your girls getting good at this because she's better, then 556 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: they're better than be at it for longer. So I 557 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: want to honk about being right about the Cardinals all year, 558 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: because you've had them as one of the very best 559 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 1: teams in the NFL from week one. It's probably why 560 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: you're leading our picks competition. On game debut. More than anything, 561 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 1: it's just it's just getting the Cardinals right. And do 562 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: you have do you have them continuing to be this good? Um? Yes, 563 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: but they're not my super Bowl team from They're not. 564 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: Why do you think the models like the Cardinals so much? 565 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: Right about them? Um? Well, I had them as a 566 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 1: risky team. Either I was going to be very very 567 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: They're either be very good or go very poorly because 568 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,920 Speaker 1: they were expanding their playbook in such a way where, 569 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: if you know, everyone talked about Kyler Murray has the 570 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: execute this, this and this. Well they got a little 571 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,640 Speaker 1: bit lucky with some Raiders exodus from their old line, 572 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: getting Rodney Hudson there in the last minute, because that 573 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: was it's really interior pressure that makes a lot, huge 574 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: difference for Kyler Murray. Now does Coult McCoy help out 575 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 1: with this? Oh, it makes it way harder. But I 576 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: do have a number of cold data points to refer to, 577 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: but interior pressure and also no, I love Colt McCoy 578 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: two but na so after McCoy, which is perfect, baby pony, 579 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: I love it, um so. But but long story short 580 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: of like you know, like after they stopped rolling out, 581 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: only that like basically the bootleg where he goes off 582 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: to his right and spins all the way around. Like 583 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: once they added more to the playbook, I'm like, well 584 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: if he if they can keep the interior pressure from 585 00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: being too, which is why you see the difference when 586 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Hudson's playing when he's not very big difference for him. 587 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,320 Speaker 1: And also they got him a bunch more playmakers. I 588 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: mean A. J. Green obviously hasn't played in a couple 589 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: of games, but when he's out there, it creates a 590 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: lot more space for DeAndre Hopkins when he's healthy, and 591 00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk has been the beneficiary of that. And now 592 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: they've got zach Ertz. And you know when J. J. 593 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,479 Speaker 1: Watt was healthy for the two minutes, he was helpful 594 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: to them. So you know they and I love their 595 00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: the way that they create space with their safeties. I 596 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: love Buddha Baker, I will I'm a like unapologetic Buddha 597 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 1: Baker Buddha Baker Lever and Isaiah Simmons is taken a 598 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: big step forward too, So you know they're only it 599 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: all fit. You're a super Bowl team though they're not. 600 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,840 Speaker 1: I hate my super Bowl team. I'm gonna throw oh 601 00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: that's interesting. I'm gonna throw another volatile team in the 602 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: a f C out there, a team that I'm trying 603 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:47,920 Speaker 1: to make sense of. A lot has happened around this 604 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: team this year. They've been up. They've been theirsters on 605 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 1: what I can see, Yeah, um yeah, imposters. So they've 606 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: gotten exceptionally lucky because for their first few games, like 607 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: the first eight games at they played, they've got an 608 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: overt pressure percentage against opposing quarterbacks. If you have sustained 609 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:07,480 Speaker 1: pressure for that long, then you're absolutely going to do 610 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: some damage. And congratulations Max Crosby. That like extra X, 611 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 1: it really works out for you. But the problem is 612 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: is they have on the other side, they don't have 613 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: a very reliable running execution, even and I mean that 614 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: with like short passes to screen passes. Most coaches consider 615 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: those running you know, running downs for kind of the 616 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: way that they think it through. They don't have consistency there, 617 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: and you know they don't. I like Derek Carts, absolutely 618 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: nothing against him, but when you don't have an old line, 619 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: it is hard to an old line that consistently can 620 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: keep you from harm's way. It just it's hard to 621 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: have long term, sustained wins like they're just like Vegas, 622 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: high risk, high reward, but it could go terribly wrong 623 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: as well. I see them as nine and eight, but 624 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: I think your model is going to have them at 625 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: eight point four. It's it's closer, it is undernine, it 626 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: is underneath. But remember again big but because there's five 627 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: and three, so somewhere in the eights is that's another 628 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: nothing nothing short of. But they've got the next three Chiefs, Bengals, Cowboys, 629 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: and then I have a win for Washington. The Chiefs, Brown's, Broncos, Colds, Chargers, 630 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:14,440 Speaker 1: like the rest of their schedule is not very nice 631 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: to them. We'll get to it Thursday. But to me, 632 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: this Chief's Raiders game is is fascinating. This super fascinating, 633 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: especially because they payed. I have a quick one um 634 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,800 Speaker 1: and we'll keep it brief. The Lions, aren't you about them? 635 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: That's your team, but they're not my team. I hate them. 636 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: They're my team to hate emotionally, which I appreciate you 637 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,959 Speaker 1: hash like as like zero point to like are they 638 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: hovering towards that? Oh in seventeen season the first time 639 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 1: I mean to give him a w they got to 640 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: be h two point three. The model had them beating 641 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: the Eagles a couple of weeks ago. Do you know 642 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: how mad I was about that? I hated it? They 643 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,640 Speaker 1: were they could run up for like five sis. That's 644 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: why you're so mad at it? Is your computer does 645 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 1: a great disobedient at times, and like, is it rebellion 646 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: against you on some level? So Mark wants to know 647 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 1: how do you punish the computer when it becomes disobediently? 648 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: The funny part, right, Like the funny part here is 649 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: it's all actually like I name it after like I'll 650 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,880 Speaker 1: put in random things, like some years it'll be like 651 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: random eighties rockers, other years it'll be and it's all 652 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: named things that I can't so I can't look at 653 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:21,120 Speaker 1: it because I have to make some corrections. They'll be 654 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: errors in the code, and I don't want to know 655 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 1: because I do like certain teams more than other teams, 656 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 1: like teams that give me a paycheck. I did the 657 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: preseason with the Bills. You're darn right. I like them 658 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: better than I like the Jets. I like them better 659 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 1: than other teams like, so I don't want to be 660 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: biased in any way possible. So it's all you can 661 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: name them. Next year, I'll let you name, and it 662 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: just randomly assigned to be part of the process on 663 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: the perfect Yes, so when you when you have it, 664 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: do it like anonymously and you have to do these 665 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: air fixes and you're not like fixing, you know, because 666 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,480 Speaker 1: sometimes the reason that my model is like valuable more 667 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: than like just random numbers is like I'll ask coaches 668 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: for real context, so I'll be like, what happened here. 669 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: I'd be like the safety was in the wrong spot, 670 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: or the quarterback didn't see you do didn't pick up, 671 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 1: or the running back didn't pick up the blitz or 672 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: something great. So you can put in something there with 673 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,360 Speaker 1: like real people, who's who duty? And then like when 674 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: my PhD people from when this is why you like, 675 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: I still paying for my my master's degree right because 676 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: you know I won't want I took out loans and too, 677 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: because then I can go back and be like these 678 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: PhD people who don't care about football. They can be like, 679 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: your math's wrong here, fix it here, so it gets 680 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: better every week, But what what do you got? The 681 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: Lions at one point four okay, jerks that well, you're 682 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: a celebration. When they get that second congratulations, they are 683 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: officially not great quarterbacks in this upcoming draft class, and 684 00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: the Lions will continue to be terrible. Could I could 685 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: have had a lot? Let's not pile on all right, 686 00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: we only have a few more minutes with you, Cynthia. 687 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: They can deserve it. There's that kneecaps to bite. And 688 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: by the way, when I was there for so first 689 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 1: Bill's preseason game was at Ford Field, and like I 690 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: was happy because Ford fields a great field and I'm 691 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: from Michigan in the summer, in Michigan's great. Like an 692 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,160 Speaker 1: hour before the game started, all of a sudden, you 693 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: see like this coach like throw fit. He takes his 694 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: heads and throws it off on the Lion side that 695 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: he goes storming off the field, and like I walk over, 696 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: like what happen? Oh, they fired their strength and conditioning 697 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: coach um like ninety minutes before the game, and I 698 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,920 Speaker 1: was like, why this is first preseason game. And then 699 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: I was like that's weird. So I'm like googling it 700 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: and whatever, and I'm not reporting because I'm on the 701 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: Bill side, and no one cares. And then they play 702 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,400 Speaker 1: their starters against the bill third string until the fourth quarter, 703 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: I kid you not, and they lost what they were 704 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: going to be a great season. Guys. All right, okay, 705 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: before you go, you said you don't like your super 706 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,359 Speaker 1: Bowl pick. So before Cynthia tells us who it is 707 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 1: with that information of mine, let's take a guess the model. 708 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 1: It is easy. Guess. All right, I'm gonna say the Packers. 709 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: What about you? Greg Um? You don't you're seeing both? No, 710 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: I like my I like my acis. That's was just 711 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,799 Speaker 1: a guess. I'm gonna say that the Bucks. You don't. 712 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: I like the Box. I love Todd Bowls. You know 713 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: that don't like Um. I think Packers is very strong, 714 00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,359 Speaker 1: But just for the sake of variety, I'll go Rams. Um, 715 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: it's it's the Packers. What nothing to do? Like, I'm 716 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: mad that like my preseason or my my preseason said 717 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: Packers Chiefs, and now mid season it's Packers Bills. And 718 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: I'm so you because the Chiefs and Bills that partly 719 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: because they're gonna get the one seat. Sorry. Well, before 720 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 1: last week it wasn't going to be the Packers, and 721 00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,800 Speaker 1: then the Rams lost, and then like some weird stuff 722 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: happened last week, and then of course the week before 723 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 1: the Saints beat the Bucks. So I was like, come on, 724 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: give me something that I like. So this like Chiefs Bills, 725 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: everybody's grouping them together about how the defenses are are 726 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: strategizing and slowing down the attack. I guess the model 727 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,640 Speaker 1: says Brian Dable and the Bills are going to figure 728 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,120 Speaker 1: this out and get back on track. Otherwise how they're 729 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: going to get to the big dance. I mean, I'm 730 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,760 Speaker 1: concerned about it when I watched that game on Sunday 731 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 1: in the last few weeks with this reason. Absolutely, it's 732 00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: really come down to pressure on the quarterback. That's what 733 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: happened in the Pittsburgh game. That's what happened in this 734 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 1: last game against the Jags. Early pressure. So what Brian 735 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: Dables on He almost didn't run the ball at all 736 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: in the first half. I think two runs like that's it. 737 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: Like Josh Allen scrambled a few times, but those aren't 738 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 1: running running designed runs in any way, right, So it's interesting. 739 00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see, like what's going out with the 740 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: running backs because it's gonna be it's really going to 741 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: come down to you for this team. Can they keep 742 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: Josh Allen from getting pressured especially early in the game, 743 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 1: because we've seen a few slow starts for the Bill, 744 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:33,919 Speaker 1: So if they don't have like the if they can't 745 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: get it going right away, then it's going to be 746 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,880 Speaker 1: difficult for them to to kind of pick up the 747 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: pace at the end because of that pressure. So it's 748 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: really comes down to offensive pressure. Now we don't have models, 749 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 1: but but you can see. We were asked editor we 750 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 1: are on Monday to send in our new predictions for 751 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 1: the season. So I wanted to check in with with 752 00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: you guys to see did you actually send senda. I 753 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,000 Speaker 1: know Dan busy on Mondays. I made time on Monday 754 00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: and did it nice? Did you What did you guys 755 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: go with as your Super Bowl? So I so my 756 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,839 Speaker 1: my move here number one is like it's I didn't 757 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,759 Speaker 1: put it through a model. I kind of said, I 758 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: want to do something that I don't think anyone else 759 00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: will do. I like it and it will get you know, 760 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,280 Speaker 1: that's how you had That's how you have the Dolphins 761 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: winning the a f C East going into the clearly 762 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 1: not a model there. But I have the Cardinals, which 763 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:27,279 Speaker 1: feels secure, feels like I'm observing the sport on some 764 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: levels over the Patriots, who I think are going to 765 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: something like it's super spicy, but it's really just to 766 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: get that. I decided it was it's too late to bacca. 767 00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,239 Speaker 1: I think it's a cowards move to change your pick. 768 00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 1: So even though I think the Chiefs are all sorts 769 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,240 Speaker 1: of issues, I didn't bail. I picked them before the season. 770 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm sticking with the Chiefs to figure this out and 771 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 1: it becomes a big story. They beat the Packers a right. See. 772 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: I only change it if it's totally necessary. But then 773 00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 1: this is the first time I've changed the Super Bowl pick. 774 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:55,640 Speaker 1: But I changed, you know, two of the playoffs. I 775 00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: had to take the Dolphins out of the playoffs. I 776 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,839 Speaker 1: had the Bucks Bucks over the Ravens. I mean, Greg 777 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,960 Speaker 1: and I had both had the forty nine we had. 778 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: We should publish that, know, But you happy I kept 779 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,600 Speaker 1: I kept my ten of the twelve playoff teams. I 780 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: removed the forty Niners and Dolphins through in the Chargers 781 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,840 Speaker 1: in the guess what, mark else? I still love the 782 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: Browns in the playoffs, just like I did in August. 783 00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: I Oh, I put the Browns in now too, So 784 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: I guess that's who I put in for the Dolphins. Well, 785 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: some of us had it from the jumb Come on. 786 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 1: I wish I wish I could do like like split 787 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,080 Speaker 1: my personality because like my gut versus like sometimes I 788 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: look at these and I'm like, I don't want to 789 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: make that pick, but like I it's my own head 790 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: whatever is like and sometimes it sometimes just right and 791 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,880 Speaker 1: sometimes it lets me down right like it's sometimes I 792 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 1: did not want to pick the Panthers last week, but 793 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: my model said it because they had they had some 794 00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:49,799 Speaker 1: you know, they have some positive indicators when Christian mcaffrey's 795 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:51,600 Speaker 1: on the field there. I didn't like that when you 796 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 1: did that. Bill Belichick ruins everything when when you ran, 797 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 1: you put they put this little graphic up on game 798 00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,920 Speaker 1: debut when she does the Survivor picks three hundred thousand 799 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: simulations a lot, and uh, the Panthers were somehow like 800 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: going to be the better machine first and Greg is 801 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,799 Speaker 1: just a man and like you're going machine verse. Greg's look, 802 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,600 Speaker 1: sometimes you've gotta go with it. They've neither one's right. 803 00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 1: You know you got And this week has like some 804 00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,280 Speaker 1: of the most upsets we've seen in like this season. 805 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: Actually two weird things like away teams are winning more 806 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,320 Speaker 1: often than tip like a normal season and you know, 807 00:39:24,600 --> 00:39:27,399 Speaker 1: in terms of those Vegas odds or whatever we're allowed 808 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,919 Speaker 1: to say or not. I don't whatever that Okay, whatever 809 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: Vegas thought. There's been way more upsets of like you've 810 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: seen a lot of like the line get totally blown up, 811 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 1: like further from the standard deviation. That's probably an off 812 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 1: limits word just because it's bad, um than than normal 813 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,359 Speaker 1: to right, Like we just don't know what it means. Yeah, 814 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: the math dog is getting a little above above the 815 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: old sea line now. But you've said it all, all 816 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: of it. You check check her out on Game Day 817 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 1: View another film Network on Friday's Power Rankings Game Day 818 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: Morning on Sunday, is you name the show Fantasy Live 819 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: quite a bit, and I feel like my hourly rates 820 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,320 Speaker 1: like probably under minimum wage. Now put that in the 821 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,320 Speaker 1: machine and then send it upstairs. All right, Santhia Freeland, 822 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 1: thank you very much. Goes all right, stay right here, 823 00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:19,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna take a break. We'll be right back out, 824 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:25,760 Speaker 1: goes one queen of around the NFL, and in comes another. 825 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't even think we need to stop down. We 826 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: just don't we to show our professionalism and tap dance 827 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,560 Speaker 1: until Colleen Wolf comes on. Then they're would be a 828 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,160 Speaker 1: great time storming through the door, leaves a dent in 829 00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:45,919 Speaker 1: a wooden wall. Oh, it's not it's not Colleen's music. 830 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: It's Frianka, miss Jonas, Miss Jonas. Brother. What Connie, there's 831 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,319 Speaker 1: your headset? Yeah you know Colleen. Oh my god, high 832 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: just recorded the Split Ends podcast with Erica Tamposy. That 833 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: out the latest episode, and now we're gonna welcome you. 834 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: And how are you? By the way, I'm great. This 835 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 1: chair is very high. Well, but I think it's just 836 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,560 Speaker 1: because I'm short, so my legs aren't touching the ground. 837 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: They're just swinging around like uh, you know, the dummy thing. 838 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: But you're no dumb and you are the Thursday Night 839 00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: the face of Thursday night football coverage on NFL Network. 840 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: And we're gonna talk a little Thursday night football right now. 841 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 1: Connie Baltimore Ravens at Miami Dolphins. So you get to 842 00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: go out to Miami. That's good, Miami, Miami. Oh yeah, 843 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,040 Speaker 1: tell us about this game? Is you you do your 844 00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: tireless research? What are you feeling about this? Just like, 845 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,760 Speaker 1: after doing all of this research, I'm just so psyched 846 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: out of my mind to see Justin Tucker in person. 847 00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: I can't wait because you replaced Cynthia Freeland, who's like 848 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: putting two thousand million reems of data into a computer 849 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 1: to reach day. So I know your research dream. But yeah, 850 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,919 Speaker 1: watching Justin Tucker warm up, I've done that before. That's 851 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 1: that's a show in itself. See him drill it from 852 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever in your time on TNF had a kicker? 853 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: Come on? If there? This is the greatest kicker of 854 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 1: all time. The problem that we have here is that 855 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: the Dolphins stink and Tua might not be playing. So 856 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,200 Speaker 1: the chances that it comes down to a Tucker kick 857 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 1: are slim, but not nil because primetime games are weird, 858 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 1: especially Thursday night games. But can you get in the 859 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:35,800 Speaker 1: ear of the producers if it does come down to it, 860 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,320 Speaker 1: Tucker is He's a well spoken guy, He's got some 861 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 1: chrismas an opera sy there's pop. Let's go after Justin 862 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 1: Tucker if we can. You know, I was thinking about 863 00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: this during the Seahawks Rams Thursday night game when we 864 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: had the double punt, and I was like, why don't 865 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,040 Speaker 1: we get why? What is it? Michael Badgeley, I don't 866 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 1: know the money? Yeah, So I was like, why don't 867 00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: we get him on the days like that would be fantastic. 868 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,800 Speaker 1: We did not. We got Matthews. You've pitched the money badger. 869 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,520 Speaker 1: I feel like it's going to be the girl that 870 00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,640 Speaker 1: cries wolf. When we go to go to them with 871 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,439 Speaker 1: the kicker again, they're gonna be like, well, Colleen, that's 872 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,000 Speaker 1: got serious. Like the other burly football men on that set, 873 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:17,759 Speaker 1: are they not going to respect a kicker? Is that 874 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: the issue? The kickers are people too? I think I 875 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: think even like the real burly football men respect Justin 876 00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,920 Speaker 1: Tucker though, because I think everyone realizes he's plus. If 877 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: you can get Lamar and they win, then that's that's 878 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: who you want. But it could be a game winning 879 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,439 Speaker 1: kick because that's the kind of games the Ravens play 880 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: for for uh, fourth quarter comebacks for them for game 881 00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: I know, I hear you. But their last second wins 882 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: are against two the Chiefs. Of course, they're good to 883 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: the Lions, the Colts, you know, and the Vikings not 884 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: exactly a murderers row of teams that they had to 885 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, come from behind to be. They're always in 886 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,520 Speaker 1: a second half deficit too. It just feels like they're 887 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,520 Speaker 1: slow starts are so thing that they need to change, 888 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: and I don't know, I don't know how they fix that, 889 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: but this team is super resilient and Lamar Jackson he's 890 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: able to do it with his arm. He's able to 891 00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,879 Speaker 1: do it on the ground, and we saw it again 892 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,640 Speaker 1: against the Vikings when they were down by fourteen. But 893 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:18,000 Speaker 1: Hollywood Brown, he's also having a breakout season, has six 894 00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: touchdowns already this year, and I just feel like it 895 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 1: says a lot about this team that they're able to 896 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: win the games that they've won in the way that 897 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 1: they've done it with all of the injuries that they've 898 00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,920 Speaker 1: had this season. Well, here's the thing with the Ravens, 899 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:35,000 Speaker 1: because when people like Cynthia with the with their data 900 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 1: machines and then you look at things like d v 901 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 1: O A and all that stuff is good and it 902 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,279 Speaker 1: shows it spits out numbers that say the Ravens aren't 903 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: actually that good, and it kind of annoys me because 904 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 1: it doesn't factor into me Lamar Jackson and why he's 905 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: just a cheat code for their offense beIN the ultimate 906 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,239 Speaker 1: fixer he is, and I see it week after week 907 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: and the way he just kind of got them back 908 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: into that game against the Vikings, a game that it 909 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,480 Speaker 1: felt like they were in a lot of trouble. They 910 00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: got back into the game before halftime and then give 911 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,760 Speaker 1: up a ninety seven yard kickoff return. But they keep fighting. 912 00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:09,800 Speaker 1: They keep fighting, and they're just a team that I 913 00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: think just finds a way. I know that's not analytical, 914 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:14,799 Speaker 1: but they just are. That's who the Ravens are under 915 00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,320 Speaker 1: John Harvit. That is when you have someone like Lamar Jackson, 916 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:21,200 Speaker 1: like it's going to defy numbers and all our beloved 917 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,359 Speaker 1: dev o A data and everything else. They're a team 918 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,600 Speaker 1: that piled up thirty six first downs in that Vikings game. 919 00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,680 Speaker 1: In the NFL record is forty. I mean, they just 920 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: and I think the one thing about Lamar Jackson's the 921 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,480 Speaker 1: fumbles have been there, there have been some mistakes, but 922 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:36,680 Speaker 1: he always it doesn't shake him at all. Like I 923 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,800 Speaker 1: think last year you saw the Ravens offense become a 924 00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,240 Speaker 1: little chaotic to the point where Hollywood Brown and Lamar 925 00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: were squawking publicly. It's all gone away because he is 926 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,880 Speaker 1: I think Lamar Jackson able to overcome personal errors and 927 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: and like an offense that's largely like missing guys all 928 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 1: over there. But they they have weapons now that that 929 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 1: that is the strength of their team is their passing 930 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: attack and the depth of their passing attack. Brown is 931 00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,680 Speaker 1: a true one right now. Sammy Watkins might come back 932 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,839 Speaker 1: for this game. Andrews is a Pro Bowl tight end. 933 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,320 Speaker 1: Rashad Bateman's coming and immediately been a pro made like 934 00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: tough catches where he's like the number two type of 935 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 1: chain mover. Duverney is kind of a fun number four 936 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 1: who who makes plays too. So it's like suddenly, that's 937 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: that's the strength. And they built this offense this off 938 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:26,160 Speaker 1: season to beat all the zone coverages that he goes against, 939 00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,520 Speaker 1: and so that's where the ball keeps going. And they're 940 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: not beating zone coverages like Kirk Cousins does with the dumpops. 941 00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,520 Speaker 1: They're beating it over the linebackers and ahead of the 942 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 1: cornerbacks and so everything is fifteen to twenty yards up 943 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,799 Speaker 1: the field. And I I find this matchup interesting if 944 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: only because the Dolphins are I think number two in 945 00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,759 Speaker 1: terms of blitzing this year, like the number two most 946 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: blitz heavy team, which goes against what you normally would 947 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: want to do against Lamar Jackson because you gotta play 948 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 1: man coverage if you do that, and then he just 949 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,160 Speaker 1: runs all over you. So do you dare Lamar to 950 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,040 Speaker 1: run and just keep blitzing like crazy? His numbers, for 951 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,200 Speaker 1: what it's worth against the blitzers are not good. So 952 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: if I'm the Dolphins, and if I'm the Ravens, who 953 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: are another one of the most heavy blitz heavy teams, 954 00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:10,520 Speaker 1: like I just blitzplit splits and then your Dolphins just 955 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,400 Speaker 1: see what happens. It might go terribly and he might 956 00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: run for two hundred yards, but I'd rather that than 957 00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,880 Speaker 1: him throwing over the top all game. And the Dolphins defense, 958 00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,799 Speaker 1: they really haven't faced a ton of mobile quarterbacks outside 959 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,879 Speaker 1: of Josh Allen who crushed them. So I think it'll 960 00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,520 Speaker 1: be interesting to see how Lamar Jackson does against them. 961 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: This is an important game, I think for Brian Flores, 962 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 1: it's a island game. A lot of eyes on it, 963 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,600 Speaker 1: and you know, ownerships mulling what they want to do next. 964 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: As an organization. What are the guy in the Ravens 965 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,120 Speaker 1: wanted to point out anybody else notice a little bit 966 00:47:38,120 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: of juice in Devonte Freeman, a little bit like so 967 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,840 Speaker 1: there's just a lot of pieces on that offense. They 968 00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: had five hundred yards on the nose against the Vikings 969 00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 1: that I think is just gonna overwhelm Miami, Miami. Well 970 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: that was awesome. But Connie, the good thing about the 971 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,480 Speaker 1: game that you cover every week is Thursday Night is 972 00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,560 Speaker 1: weird as hell. I love it, and you don't know 973 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: how it's actually going to play out. So justin Tucker 974 00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,480 Speaker 1: needing to kick a long field goal and getting up 975 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: on the days in play, please pitch it if it happens. 976 00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,399 Speaker 1: By the way, I saw that someone screenshotted on their 977 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,279 Speaker 1: timeline that you and I both had the same Mike 978 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: White reaction seconds apart, milliseconds apart. I was so upset 979 00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:23,720 Speaker 1: that they took him. They took him. Yeah, I predicted 980 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 1: that though you did. Sorry, Yeah, I'm sorry that that 981 00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,560 Speaker 1: came true. All right, Connie, anything else you want at? 982 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,800 Speaker 1: How's everything else? Hey? Everything's going great of you and 983 00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: your husband on the Old Graham. Yes, we went to 984 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: a wedding. It was super fun. It was an Anaheim. 985 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: We stayed what are weddings like, Anna, I haven't been 986 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 1: to a wedding so long, Annaheim. It was so much 987 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,719 Speaker 1: fun because it was a big wedding too. And when 988 00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,880 Speaker 1: we you know, normally when you sit down the reception 989 00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: opens up after cocktail hour and it's just some nice 990 00:48:55,360 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: jazzy dinner. He's like, no, no, no, this was like 991 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: a Greek club all night, from start to finish. It 992 00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 1: was really fun. Greek Persian our friends. If you can 993 00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,520 Speaker 1: get yourself to a Greek wedding, you should do it. 994 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: Do you predict success for the couple? I mean being real, 995 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: like they're not going to hear this. No, I love them, 996 00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: They're great together, good people. The wedding party, No, but 997 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 1: I should have been. I was in the wedding party 998 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: of it. No, not really like I mean just because 999 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: we are teople brought it. We were the we were 1000 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: the fun table. The ceremonies different than most weddings. Somebody 1001 00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,400 Speaker 1: walking in a circle around, there were stuff going on. 1002 00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,800 Speaker 1: There were crowns with ribbons where the three things it 1003 00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,879 Speaker 1: is the music. Yeah, and they do this thing where 1004 00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 1: they're like, I think the Persian side. I had never 1005 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: been to a Persian wedding before, and they were like no, no, no, no, 1006 00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,960 Speaker 1: no no no no no, they'd make that. Haven't been 1007 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,600 Speaker 1: to one of those yet? That sounds ess sounds good. 1008 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:54,120 Speaker 1: What percentage would you say, um, John looking good at 1009 00:49:54,200 --> 00:49:57,839 Speaker 1: a wedding is like the reason that you married him. Wow, 1010 00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 1: So there's because he does. Yeah, hepend lot of baggage too. 1011 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 1: That I'm kidding. He has many reasons why I married him, 1012 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,440 Speaker 1: but that, yes, is one of them. You think John's hot? 1013 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,640 Speaker 1: I think I was just going off of her comment 1014 00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: on the thing, just like look how nice my well 1015 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,600 Speaker 1: scale did find him? Greg? Yeah? What is his number? Like, 1016 00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:24,239 Speaker 1: I'm not going to give him a number. If he 1017 00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:27,879 Speaker 1: was coach, where would you slot him in? That's your guys, 1018 00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: I have my number. I won't share it because there's 1019 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,320 Speaker 1: almost it's like a no win situation. There's high on 1020 00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:35,720 Speaker 1: I would put it. I would say it'd be alarming. 1021 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,279 Speaker 1: I'm just saying like, yeah, he's bringing a lot to 1022 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:40,400 Speaker 1: the table. But there's you know, he was at Johnson 1023 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: and Johnson guy, Like there's some negative too, So were 1024 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 1: you though? Right? That's and I haven't been You want 1025 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,800 Speaker 1: to grade the three of us before you say goodbye? 1026 00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,239 Speaker 1: Do you want to keep that to myself? But you're 1027 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,879 Speaker 1: all you have in your head? Like just when I said, 1028 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,200 Speaker 1: I've never thought about it before, so I would rather 1029 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: not like you've never even thought not even we don't 1030 00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: even occur in anyone say that because my three brothers, 1031 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: you know what's funny, and you're a sister, as you're 1032 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,040 Speaker 1: a little sister. I sometimes say it to my wife too, 1033 00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:10,480 Speaker 1: you know you're married for a long time. I was like, 1034 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,360 Speaker 1: do you still see me as a man? Am I 1035 00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: a man? To you? Still? Like? Where where are we 1036 00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 1: talking to her? Wow? Sometimes sometimes you have that conversation 1037 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: then Greg goes, wow, nothing ever unfortunately happens in mind. 1038 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,719 Speaker 1: That's I just it's a funny. Yeah. I feel like 1039 00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,600 Speaker 1: a tease when it's like, hey, let's get back on 1040 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 1: the track in terms of being a uh we fell 1041 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,160 Speaker 1: in love as a couple, Let's go on a date, 1042 00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,399 Speaker 1: let's have some fun together. Let's you know, it's tough. 1043 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,080 Speaker 1: When I've come to the I am um, it's not 1044 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: even a conclusion. It feels factual that my significant other 1045 00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:44,560 Speaker 1: is severely annoyed with me generally, right, I've I've long 1046 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,239 Speaker 1: assumed that no woman ever looks at me like that 1047 00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,839 Speaker 1: or as a man. And if you ever find out 1048 00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:52,959 Speaker 1: the opposite, like what a nice pleasant surprise that here's 1049 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: a perfect example that sometimes it gets on my radar 1050 00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,239 Speaker 1: with my wife, like if I go and I have. 1051 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,160 Speaker 1: Let's say, right now, I have a grizzly beard. I'm 1052 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,200 Speaker 1: trying to grow in if if what I'll always do 1053 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,840 Speaker 1: when it's time to shave it, I will keep I 1054 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: will shave the beard and keep a mustache. Right, and 1055 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 1: then I'll start walking around the house and I look 1056 00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: like Don Mattingly and she doesn't notice, and I'm like, whoa, whoa, 1057 00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 1: that's concerning. Yeah, she's she's gonna play this back for 1058 00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 1: it and she's gonna tell me she's tuned out. All right. 1059 00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: It will be the second time she listens to the show. 1060 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: But straight tens though you three thank you dime pieces. 1061 00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:35,239 Speaker 1: We got three dimes in the studio. Yeah, Erica, another ten? 1062 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: Thank you? Um do you want to get a Split 1063 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,960 Speaker 1: Ends plug in? We had a very special guest on 1064 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,000 Speaker 1: this morning, and I think everyone's going to really enjoy 1065 00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,160 Speaker 1: this episode. O good. So wherever you get your podcast, 1066 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: check out the Split Ends podcast and Connie Fox, the 1067 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 1: Tiny Box, the Platonic Friend, the Little Sister Scribe is 1068 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,719 Speaker 1: right added to it. Um, have fun to my Miami, 1069 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,960 Speaker 1: justin Tucker, Let's make it happen. Let's will it into existence. 1070 00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: All right, that's it. Dan has a signing off for 1071 00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:14,520 Speaker 1: Cynthia Freeland, the pretty hate Machine, the old boss quiet Storm. 1072 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: That's good nickname, Cythia, and of course that was not addicted. Uh, 1073 00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:27,320 Speaker 1: he's the call. Sorry, Colleen's looking su confused. H