Speaker 1: Welcome to Pod meets Twirl, the Dancing with the Stars
Speaker 1: recap hosted by two guys who can't dance, don't want
Speaker 1: to dance, and have now seen an entire season of
Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. Since our best friend Danielle joined
Speaker 1: the cast for season thirty four, we were all in.
Speaker 1: We are Wilfred Ellen Ryder Strong aka the two dudes
Speaker 1: standing next to Tapanga aka daniel Fishal's backup aka the
Speaker 1: dan Yettes Hi Will Daniete, Hi Rider Dan Yete. How
Speaker 1: are you feeling, I'm sick.
Speaker 2: I feel fine again? So yeah, how are you feeling?
Speaker 2: Are you shocked?
Speaker 1: Shocked?
Speaker 2: Just like to the core right the guy we thought
Speaker 2: that was going to win for the whole season?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and pretty much from episode one on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, run no, you.
Speaker 1: Know what really, I'm I'm kind of exhausted me too.
Speaker 1: That was a long finale. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2: I went from finale to finally.
Speaker 1: I don't want to belabor the point, much like this
Speaker 1: episode belabored the finale, but it was really a lot.
Speaker 1: I feel like could have been a two hour episode,
Speaker 1: and I don't disagree. I'm not sure if the instant
Speaker 1: Dance was the most successful. I mean what do they
Speaker 1: normally do. Do they normally do a three hour finale
Speaker 1: like that?
Speaker 2: I don't know. I Also, here's the thing I didn't
Speaker 2: get about the instant dance because they said you could
Speaker 2: pick from four dances, and then they all practiced the
Speaker 2: four dances, right, So the only thing that you didn't
Speaker 2: know was your music, which again obviously has a huge
Speaker 2: part of the thing. And I know you have to
Speaker 2: choreograph it to the music, but it's not like they're
Speaker 2: just I feel like the on stage, if it's an
Speaker 2: instant dance, they should walk in with cards. You should
Speaker 2: pull a card and it goes, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 2: dancing the foxtrot to this go.
Speaker 1: Well, but what we figured because we started talking through
Speaker 1: because I was watching with Alex and India and my parents,
Speaker 1: and we were like, oh, they needed to know because
Speaker 1: they cut the package based on which dance they had picked,
Speaker 1: so they talked about a four of them exactly, so
Speaker 1: they would talk about Yeah, so they talked about I
Speaker 1: hope you get the fox Trot, I hope you don't
Speaker 1: get the fox Trot, and then they edited that because
Speaker 1: they had picked it ahead of time. Yeah, it was weird.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was nervous for them, which is kind
Speaker 1: of a good feeling maybe, so like, yeah, it was dramatic.
Speaker 1: But then when it was all said and done, I
Speaker 1: was like, well, they're just giving tens a lane got nine,
Speaker 1: which was a bummer because it was like everybody else
Speaker 1: is just getting up, you know, a thumbs up, basically
Speaker 1: like you did it, You did this crazy hard thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's more with this night was about.
Speaker 2: Was more like congratulations to everybody. Here's an adaboy to
Speaker 2: everybody for the journey you had. Is essentially what I
Speaker 2: think what the entire night was about, because there were
Speaker 2: no real surprises. Now, let me ask you this, because
Speaker 2: obviously it's no secret everybody knows Robert One by this
Speaker 2: point deserving. You think he deserved to win.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm the wrong person to ask for some reason,
Speaker 1: I've just not been on the Robert train. Really. Just yeah,
Speaker 1: it's not you know what it is. Maybe it's because
Speaker 1: it seemed inevitable, so I'm just I'm just the guy
Speaker 1: who's always going to take the other side. Maybe, but
Speaker 1: also I don't know, there's he just I like the
Speaker 1: depth of other people's journey, like a little bit more,
Speaker 1: which is maybe unfair because he has had just as
Speaker 1: big of a journey, I get, but I didn't know
Speaker 1: who he was at all, you know, and so it
Speaker 1: felt like it felt like he was already dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars Royalty. Yes, it felt like he just did
Speaker 1: the journey and that he had like already started at eleven.
Speaker 1: And so that just felt a little different than everybody
Speaker 1: else who kind of came at it with a I
Speaker 1: don't know, for me, a little bit more of an
Speaker 1: out status. But yeah, that's so I don't know. I
Speaker 1: really by the end of this episode, I wanted Dylan
Speaker 1: to win.
Speaker 2: Oh Dylan really? Oh see, to me, I thought the
Speaker 2: person who to me, Alex Roberts started at eleven and
Speaker 2: to me he ended tonight at like a nine or
Speaker 2: a ten, whereas to me Alex started at seven and
Speaker 2: ended out of ten.
Speaker 1: She I totally agree with that everything.
Speaker 2: And so the I I get deserves the wrong word,
Speaker 2: because of course, any of them deserve to win, because
Speaker 2: they've all worked their butts off from beginning to end.
Speaker 2: But the one I wanted to win by the end
Speaker 2: was Alex. It's like, you got to see the like
Speaker 2: cause when they're showing where she started to where she ended.
Speaker 2: It's she went from being a kind of a scared
Speaker 2: twenty two year old, which Robert is too, but didn't
Speaker 2: certainly start in that position to then you know, we
Speaker 2: were there that first night and there we walked away
Speaker 2: going God, Robert R Man. That was it. It was like,
Speaker 2: what about that girl with the bullwhip, Like that's kind
Speaker 2: of what we were doing, right And then now she finished,
Speaker 2: When she finished that freestyle dance, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that could have been in the super Bowl, Like that
Speaker 2: was totally that was amazing. So when it came down
Speaker 2: to the two of them and I soon and I
Speaker 2: both said the same thing, We're happy for whoever won. Really,
Speaker 2: by the time Danielle was gone, we weren't really rooting
Speaker 2: for anybody. So it was kind of like we knew
Speaker 2: Robert was going to win. But I was like, hey,
Speaker 2: and also, here's the other thing. And I do this
Speaker 2: a lot of times with some of the other like
Speaker 2: cooking reality shows I do and stuff like that that
Speaker 2: I like to watch. I don't know what they're basing
Speaker 2: it on. So if they're basing it on the entire season,
Speaker 2: then certainly Robert deserves to win. He started at an
Speaker 2: A and he ended at an A. If they're doing
Speaker 2: the journey and then the finale, just the finale. She
Speaker 2: won tonight she won, so I mean, and she even
Speaker 2: won on the judges scorecards. I mean, she literally won.
Speaker 2: So it was she was by herself at the top
Speaker 2: with three perfect dance scores. So you know, I'm happy
Speaker 2: he won. That's great. The guy who we thought was
Speaker 2: gonna win for ten weeks ended up winning. That's great.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 2: I was pulling for her by that second dance. I
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, that's wow. She's a different
Speaker 2: human being. So I was. I was really pulling for
Speaker 2: her by that point.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, I mean, they were all so good. That's
Speaker 1: why this finale felt a little long to me, probably
Speaker 1: because it was like, well, we're all great here, like really,
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see their freestyle more than anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I felt like it was really fun. By that time,
Speaker 1: I was so darn tired. I would love to have
Speaker 1: I would have loved to just let them go a
Speaker 1: little like that. The entire finale, it's just been like, hey,
Speaker 1: you get to do whatever you want to do to
Speaker 1: convince the audience that you're the person and to you know,
Speaker 1: win the judge's highest scores, Like I just putting them
Speaker 1: through the ringer of this like instant dance thing. And
Speaker 1: then even even the opening where you know they're having
Speaker 1: to dance something that they don't get to pick. I
Speaker 1: was a little like, why are we doing this to them?
Speaker 1: They've been through so much.
Speaker 2: I also have to I have to ask, Uh, here's
Speaker 2: the other thing is watching the show. They're cutting together
Speaker 2: all these pactes. Let's let us let us show you
Speaker 2: the journey so far. Yeah, they barely showed Danielle. I
Speaker 2: mean like they were they never cut to her in
Speaker 2: like any of the any of the stuff. It was
Speaker 2: unbelievable how little they showed Danielle tonight, Yeah, which I
Speaker 2: found odd. Again, I don't think it's anything personal. I
Speaker 2: don't know what the hell's going, but it was just
Speaker 2: I found it weird where it was like they kept
Speaker 2: cutting It's like and now Wicked Night, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 2: that was a great one for didn't cut her at all.
Speaker 1: They're, oh, well, Halloween, I didn't. I definitely noticed that
Speaker 1: they didn't show Yeah, I definitely noticed that they did.
Speaker 1: Because her breakout dance was Argentina and tango right Halloween.
Speaker 2: No, Halloween was the Bride, The Bride one with the blood.
Speaker 1: I was also really good. It was showed at all. No,
Speaker 1: they showed everybody else the Argentine tango. That was Wicked Night.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I've already forgotten.
Speaker 2: Yes, season, Well it's not Dedication, that was Feenie, it's
Speaker 2: not Halloween. Yeah, I think it was must have been
Speaker 2: Wicked Night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, you're right. I didn't. I didn't quite notice that,
Speaker 1: But now that.
Speaker 2: You did, I'm like, really, you're cutting everybody else and
Speaker 2: cut back to Zach Effron at one point, like, really,
Speaker 2: he's not even there.
Speaker 1: Remember what the hell we got to see Alec Baldwin
Speaker 1: walking around? We did Disneyland a little bit.
Speaker 2: We did and everybody came back.
Speaker 1: You know who who did get more of the eliminated
Speaker 1: people who got most of the I mean they were
Speaker 1: all kind.
Speaker 2: Of Andy Andy got a lot he did. And again,
Speaker 2: there's nothing wrong with that. It's just once again, I'm like,
Speaker 2: why what is it about Danielle that they're hesitant to show?
Speaker 2: And it's just I didn't know what. I didn't understand
Speaker 2: what it was. If you go back and watch it,
Speaker 2: it's kind of weird.
Speaker 1: But well, we started with an opening number that included
Speaker 1: all the eliminated celebrities and the pros, which was nice
Speaker 1: to see everybody and be like, God, we've been through
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, that's right. Corey Feldman was on this show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's only been ten weeks or ever, but it feels
Speaker 1: like a lifetime.
Speaker 2: It feels like a lifetime.
Speaker 1: It does. Yeah. No, that was cool to see everybody
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean that was the feeling of this
Speaker 1: whole all the and then they did their like flashback
Speaker 1: packages later on. I was like, oh my god, this
Speaker 1: is Yeah, this has been quite a journey, and it.
Speaker 2: Feels a lot longer. Imagine if had we actually danced,
Speaker 2: Oh it would have been would have felt probably almost
Speaker 2: twice as long had we actually danced.
Speaker 1: I mean, are these people going to sleep now or
Speaker 1: do you think they're just gonna wake up tomorrow and
Speaker 1: be like, gotta dance again, Gotta just keep it going.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Well, the thing they're talking about is they keep announcing
Speaker 2: them on Good Morning America. I'm hoping that's by Zoom
Speaker 2: and they're not going to now hop on a plane
Speaker 2: and fly to New York and actually be at the
Speaker 2: Good Morning America studio tomorrow because that's insane. So it's uh, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see. But that's a lot going on. It's in person.
Speaker 2: According to Easton, they're copping on a plane and flying
Speaker 2: to New York. Okay, that's yikes, same, yikes. Okay, they're
Speaker 2: gonna finish with the press line in what two hours
Speaker 2: from now, probably take a midnight flight, get their five
Speaker 2: what's on? That'll be three am there time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh my god.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: Yet another reason why I will never do Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars.
Speaker 2: Forget that black Lotus card. Just chuck chuck it in
Speaker 2: the drain at this point.
Speaker 1: All right, So we began our first of three dances
Speaker 1: that everybody was doing tonight was judge's choice. Alex and
Speaker 1: Val started us off. We got a little recap of
Speaker 1: the season that they've had, and then their judge was
Speaker 1: Carrie Anne got to come in and choose the samba.
Speaker 1: Thought this was really cool to see the judges interacting
Speaker 1: with the dancers and the pros. I you know, like
Speaker 1: I kind of wish there'd been more of this. I
Speaker 1: don't know how, but like I feel like the feedback
Speaker 1: of the judges it feels distanced from the dancers often,
Speaker 1: you know, and it feels like there's like a lot
Speaker 1: of fast potential drama for like misinterpretation or like, you know,
Speaker 1: throughout the season like oh, you know, Carrie Anne having
Speaker 1: to apologize to Danielle, and I'm like, you know, a
Speaker 1: lot of this could be avoided if they actually got
Speaker 1: together a little bit more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: You know, it's such a machine that I feel like
Speaker 1: the judges are on one side and the dancers on
Speaker 1: the other. And I guess that's intentional so they can
Speaker 1: be more objective, but it's not that much of an
Speaker 1: objective thing. It seems like it's a very personal human
Speaker 1: thing to be a judge and to be a dancer.
Speaker 2: So it's also I mean, you get thirty what thirty
Speaker 2: seconds to talk about what you think of the dancer
Speaker 2: exactly then and then hold up a paddle. I mean,
Speaker 2: that's it. So it seems like the more interaction the better. Franklin, right,
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, hundred percent. It was. It was
Speaker 2: great to watch them.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, these two came out with the samba
Speaker 1: and uh, big fan of those pants, the greatest pants,
Speaker 1: the greatest pants today. But because there have been a
Speaker 1: couple dancers who have worn a version. Danielle did it
Speaker 1: one one night or maybe even two nights, and it's
Speaker 1: just they're great.
Speaker 2: They're great, great.
Speaker 1: Way we need Sama pants always a winner.
Speaker 2: Always you and I need. We don't get a match.
Speaker 1: I just don't think anybody cares about me and Samba pants,
Speaker 1: but I care about you and pants.
Speaker 2: So it's ex funny about three board app pary board
Speaker 2: Samba Pants edition of it Appa my comfy pants.
Speaker 1: I'll wear him at home on my couch. I'll never
Speaker 1: dance on them, but if you buy me a pair
Speaker 1: of or.
Speaker 2: Move to Neville, that's all you can do with those.
Speaker 1: Now you know, it's again me for Christmas, my friend.
Speaker 2: Yes, I love that.
Speaker 1: I fants this was tens across the board, absolutely no surprise.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm with you man like he is probably
Speaker 1: the best male dancer of the pros and a great choreographer.
Speaker 1: And she is just just phenomenal. I mean, she's just
Speaker 1: made for this. It's like, yeah, you're a dancer now, like,
Speaker 1: so be a professional dancer, which is another thought I had,
Speaker 1: like where do you go from here? Like, let's say
Speaker 1: you you are because it seems like Jordan really wants
Speaker 1: to try and make a career out of being an
Speaker 1: entertainer or a dancer, and it seems like Alex is
Speaker 1: destined to be something. But what what what happens after this?
Speaker 1: Like has anybody gone from the celebrity side to being
Speaker 1: a pro on Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 2: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Has anybody gone from the celebrity side to being a
Speaker 1: professional dancer in like a capacity beyond Dancing with the Stars, Like,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I had to google the guy that won last year
Speaker 2: because even when he came out and danced again their podcast,
Speaker 2: so was I still didn't know who he was?
Speaker 1: Who is he was on The Bachelor? Oh? Okay, and
Speaker 1: again stuff.
Speaker 2: We don't watch. I was like, who's this? Who's this guy? So, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know who's become a profession I
Speaker 2: doubt it. I'm sure people still like to dance or
Speaker 2: you're like Whitney where you just go back to being
Speaker 2: a professional dancer essentially, So yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was a question I asked myself and then I
Speaker 1: was sort of like a little sad because I was
Speaker 1: kind of like, is there a professional dancing career that
Speaker 1: is better than being on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Like no, maybe Broadway, I don't know. I mean you
Speaker 2: get some big Broadway show you're Inhambament or something like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but then you also have to be able
Speaker 1: to sing and act, right, Like I'm wondering, like if
Speaker 1: you're just a really great dancer like Alex right, like
Speaker 1: she's coming out of here by the pinnacle, right, this
Speaker 1: is the pinnacle, That's what I'm saying. It's like, weirdly,
Speaker 1: it's almost like whether you win the Mirror Ball or not,
Speaker 1: you've already reached the pinnacle. Because if you're a dancer
Speaker 1: for Taylor Swift right, which jan was right, or yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like does anybody really know who you are? I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's a great job and if you love
Speaker 1: but regular people, I feel like, really, to be a
Speaker 1: famous dancer these days, you kind of got to be
Speaker 1: on Dance with this stuff.
Speaker 2: Well, I think a lot of times I think mostly
Speaker 2: what it is is that's the other thing is dance
Speaker 2: is so it's such a team sport that Dancing with
Speaker 2: the Stars is one of the few places where you
Speaker 2: are singled out as a dancer it's like this, I
Speaker 2: can name ten dancers in my entire life, and all
Speaker 2: ten of them are the pros from Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know any other dancers. So it's like,
Speaker 2: those are the dancers that I know, are the ones
Speaker 2: I'm Dancing with the Stars. So, you know, I used
Speaker 2: to know Barrishnikoff. I used to used to know the
Speaker 2: big names, Gregory Hines, he used to know like like
Speaker 2: names like that. But then nobody, you know, Donald Glover
Speaker 2: for a while. I mean, there were certain certain people
Speaker 2: that would pop out as dancers, but then it was
Speaker 2: like nobody. And now it's like, oh, I know the
Speaker 2: names of ten dancers, and that's totally because of Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars. So yeah, my guess is you're right.
Speaker 2: This is like the super Bowl or the major leagues
Speaker 2: is Dancing with the Stars. I have a question for you, way,
Speaker 2: I have an overall question for you. Do you think
Speaker 2: anybody came into the show tonight that the dance, whatever
Speaker 2: dance they did, could have beaten Robert? Meaning was it
Speaker 2: a foregoneclusion that Robert was going to win and no
Speaker 2: matter what happened, yes, it wasn't going to change that.
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty obvious, because like, I really think
Speaker 1: Dylan gave the best dance of the season for me.
Speaker 1: Dylan and Daniella went their freestyle the freestyle it was,
Speaker 1: and then I thought Jordan's freestyle was insane, and like,
Speaker 1: I just I just don't think it mattered, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, they got tens, but at this point it
Speaker 1: was like the audience was just so in love with
Speaker 1: Robert and.
Speaker 2: So and again, and I thought this was frankly Robert's
Speaker 2: weakest dancing night.
Speaker 1: I agree, but I also feel like it's been that
Speaker 1: way a little bit for he sort of stayed like
Speaker 1: you were saying, like he just came in an A
Speaker 1: and stayed in A.
Speaker 2: But I feel like he went from like an A
Speaker 2: to maybe like an A minus. I feel like somebody
Speaker 2: like Alex came in like a B minus and ended
Speaker 2: in a plus.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't It all depends on what you
Speaker 2: want to vote for, what kind of journey you want
Speaker 2: to vote for. They're both deserving obviously, but right, yeah.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 1: Then we got our season flashback Part one, which, like
Speaker 1: A said, was a whirlwind of like, oh wow, we've
Speaker 1: we've consumed a lot of content yeah, this podcast. Man,
Speaker 1: can you imagine dancing Jesus so much? You get another
Speaker 1: cup of tea? All right? Then Dylan and Daniella and
Speaker 1: Bruno came in and gave them the Postle Doble, which
Speaker 1: I was very excited about. The second that came out.
Speaker 2: I was like, Rider's gonna love this, one of my.
Speaker 1: Two favorites, and thought it was a great call, great call,
Speaker 1: but actually not the most amazing dance.
Speaker 2: It wasn't the most amazing dance. I felt him very
Speaker 2: stiff in this, like there was there was no flow
Speaker 2: to this one. I felt like it was just a
Speaker 2: little and again he's probably nervous as hell and all,
Speaker 2: but I felt like this one was a little bit stiff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, But I also think if this had been
Speaker 1: any other week, it would have stood out exactly. But
Speaker 1: the fact that it's the finale and everybody's so damn good,
Speaker 1: there was a little bit of like, wow, okay, yeah
Speaker 1: you did. You did apostle doblay really well.
Speaker 2: You're also coming off of Alex who I mean that
Speaker 2: opening number was like, man, it was really good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So they got nine to nine and ten,
Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty accurate. I agree. Then we
Speaker 1: saw Corey, Jenna and Baron and Britt perform.
Speaker 2: Nice to see everybody back.
Speaker 1: Nice to see everybody back, see everybody back, and be like,
Speaker 1: oh right, they were on the show.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you kind of forget that. It doesn't seem
Speaker 2: like a lifetime ago. At the start of the show.
Speaker 2: We were there that opening night. It seems like forever ago.
Speaker 1: And then Elaine and Allen told the story of her season,
Speaker 1: her injury, all the ups and downs, and they got
Speaker 1: the rumba.
Speaker 2: Have we seen a rumba?
Speaker 1: I feel like I would remember that because it's a
Speaker 1: fun you remember, it's a fun name. I remember. I
Speaker 1: actually don't know what a rumba looks like, even after
Speaker 1: I could describe it. You know, I actually thought this
Speaker 1: was a fantastic dance.
Speaker 2: I thought she did really well tonight.
Speaker 1: Frankly, I thought, well, but I thought, you know this, yeah,
Speaker 1: this one, it didn't seem as as hard as some
Speaker 1: of the other dances. But also that's not always the thing, right, Like,
Speaker 1: sometimes it's just about nailing the dance technically, and you know,
Speaker 1: based on the scores they got, it seems like they
Speaker 1: did that.
Speaker 2: Two people that are hugely athletic that are in their
Speaker 2: twenties that went first, I know. And so it's one
Speaker 2: of those things where you'd love to she killed it,
Speaker 2: but you don't. You don't ever want to couch that
Speaker 2: by being like for her age, because she just killed it.
Speaker 2: But you can do only so much at fifty four
Speaker 2: that you you could do a lot more in twenty
Speaker 2: two physically than you can have fifty.
Speaker 1: Well, did you notice that the the finale, like the
Speaker 1: results went basically by age. Yeah? No, I didn't. Oh no,
Speaker 1: I thought you meant the way we were expecting, the
Speaker 1: way they eliminated people at the end was in order
Speaker 1: of their age. I think pretty exactly. Yeah, it's like, okay, right,
Speaker 1: the two youngest people, yeah, who were like both twenty
Speaker 1: two or twenty three. I mean, she don't know how
Speaker 1: old Jordan is. She's pretty close to that too.
Speaker 2: She's she's she's older than that, isn't she twenty eight nine?
Speaker 2: I don't either know. She's also in phenomenal shape though,
Speaker 2: so you're in a different category when you're literally a
Speaker 2: world elite. She's twenty four okay, yeah, same age and
Speaker 2: a world elite athlete, So I mean you're you know,
Speaker 2: she'll be able to do everything she did tonight ten
Speaker 2: years from now, right, because it's just that's she's trained
Speaker 2: her whole life, all right.
Speaker 1: So I also I like the song take My breath Away.
Speaker 1: I thought it was nice interpretation of this song, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was, it was, it was. It was a sweet moment.
Speaker 2: Have you gone and seen them play Berlin play right
Speaker 2: in the street all the time? Terry Night, Terry Nun's friend,
Speaker 2: she's been to the house dinner wonderful. What. Yeah, she's
Speaker 2: a good friend of Jeff Sherman's, like one of Jeff
Speaker 2: Sherman's best friends. So they all came over a couple times.
Speaker 2: We had some dinner. We went to go see your concert,
Speaker 2: Terry Nunna Take My breath Away, Top Gun, Come on,
Speaker 2: I had no idea. So I learned about French kissing.
Speaker 1: For watching Top Gun Top Gun.
Speaker 2: Remember they're both in silhouette and you just see their
Speaker 2: tongues going at it. It's just tongues in the moonlight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: And we were.
Speaker 1: Like, that's what French kissing is.
Speaker 2: Oh, I got I know what to do exactly, all right.
Speaker 1: Then we got a performance by Brandon Lauren, Laria glob Scott,
Speaker 1: Riley and Jen and Jan and some more season flashbacks.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very limber us.
Speaker 1: We were here, lots of that. Yeah, And Robert and
Speaker 1: Whitney came out, so Derek came to the rehearsal, told
Speaker 1: them they're doing the quick step, and then we learned
Speaker 1: about Robert's injury, which is news. Guy was having some
Speaker 1: kind of like rib trauma. Oh my god, maybe that
Speaker 1: helped him too, you know, maybe that's story.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's at a little zest and a little
Speaker 2: a little drama, a little bit of edge, but it
Speaker 2: also okay, oh my god, it's so much, so much
Speaker 2: for this and I'm not saying, not saying that this
Speaker 2: is what has happened at all at all, So please
Speaker 2: don't come for me. But if you announced before the
Speaker 2: Big Three Dances that you're slightly injured, it gives you
Speaker 2: a kind of an excuse for not being awesome in
Speaker 2: the finale.
Speaker 1: I agree.
Speaker 2: So not saying that he wasn't injured, not at all,
Speaker 2: not saying that, but it's kind of like, hey, if
Speaker 2: I do bad tonight, there's a reason yep. So I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, we'll just trust that he was in a
Speaker 1: lot of pain and.
Speaker 2: Sure, and for being in a lot of pain, did great.
Speaker 2: This This was not a ten dance. He bobbled several things,
Speaker 2: and so it was one of those things where it's
Speaker 2: like I still don't get some of the scoring because
Speaker 2: and I get tonight it's just supposed to be special.
Speaker 2: But if the tights supposed to be special, then just
Speaker 2: give everybody tens across the board and forget it.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That's why I think it should
Speaker 1: have just been a free for all. It's like, hey,
Speaker 1: everybody gets to do whatever they want.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we're not scoring tonight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or we're gonna score, but you know, we're not
Speaker 1: going to assign you and like a difficult we're not
Speaker 1: going to create a difficult project for ever. I mean,
Speaker 1: making them do that instant dance thing felt so painful.
Speaker 1: It was just like, oh my god, was getting dressed too.
Speaker 2: Like it's like the what is it the Grand Prix
Speaker 2: wherever it is where you have to run to your
Speaker 2: car first and start it. You can't just start them
Speaker 2: in the cars and drive around the around the thing.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it did it seem like a lot, but
Speaker 2: he had several noticeable bobbles, which again injury or fatigue
Speaker 2: for whatever. But if that's the case, how do you
Speaker 2: say that's a ten? A ten means perfect, A ten
Speaker 2: means you can't have done it any better than that.
Speaker 2: So I frankly I agreed with Carrie Anne and this
Speaker 2: one that to me, this.
Speaker 3: Was a nine.
Speaker 1: Yep, I'm with you, man.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then we got Danielle and Pasha, Andy and Emma and
Speaker 1: Whitney and Mark doing a performance, which is nice to see.
Speaker 1: It was Danielle. I wonder how much she's still been rehearsing.
Speaker 1: Actually just this week, I think, right, I just came
Speaker 1: back for one more week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think they went, you know, because they had
Speaker 2: everybody else still had to rehearse for the show. So
Speaker 2: she came in and just did I think this last?
Speaker 2: I think? I know, we haven't spoken hery more. It's
Speaker 2: like we don't even know the girl. And she's on
Speaker 2: my list right now anyway, so why, oh dude. She
Speaker 2: put up on her Instagram tonight she's following around one
Speaker 2: of the dancers with the patent paper and the caption
Speaker 2: is taking notes on the funniest person I've ever met.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So Danielle's on my list, totally on my
Speaker 2: list and rightful Lisa.
Speaker 1: So was she talking about?
Speaker 2: I think it was Yan, but I don't care who
Speaker 2: she was talking about. It was, Yeah, Easton says, yeah
Speaker 2: it was Yon.
Speaker 1: So yeah, funniest person.
Speaker 2: Can you here? You want to hear? Well, I'll tell
Speaker 2: you how funny I am. Watch this ready, knock knock,
Speaker 2: who's there? I'm funnier than Yon. There you go, Thank
Speaker 2: you very much. Never met the guy, by the way,
Speaker 2: and I know I am. He can dance me under
Speaker 2: the floor, but I'll dad joke him six feet under,
Speaker 2: So don't even don't even start with me. So, yeah,
Speaker 2: Danielle's on my list for the record, I don't care.
Speaker 1: How would you What would be the thing that Danielle
Speaker 1: would tweet that would make me upset? She was walking around,
Speaker 1: falling around the blankest person, the most miserable, the most
Speaker 1: lovely person I've ever met. Yeah, following around the following around,
Speaker 1: the most person I've ever made, the best screenwrider, something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, she went out of her way. That was
Speaker 2: a personal view at me, is what? So? Uh, Yeah,
Speaker 2: she's get our other podcast, big old muffin Basket from her,
Speaker 2: and it better be funny, all.
Speaker 1: Right, Jordan and Ezra were next. Uh Carrie Anne gave
Speaker 1: them the Bustle double. So I was excited for this.
Speaker 2: You are you got a couple of Doe Blays tonight, Yeah,
Speaker 2: double do blaze.
Speaker 1: You know, I thought this was a really this like
Speaker 1: only highlighted how much like I felt like Dylan's Positve
Speaker 1: Doblay did not live up to a great because this one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a sandwich between two great dances.
Speaker 1: Yes, but this was insane. And it's also cool because
Speaker 1: I always based on what we've seen before, like I
Speaker 1: always think of the passable as more of like the
Speaker 1: guy's dance. Well, it's supposed to be, right, don't they
Speaker 1: say that she's the Cape?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's the matter and she's the Cape. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Man, Jordan just killed this dance. I was like, damn Cape.
Speaker 1: I could not believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But then, like I mean with the carryade thing, she
Speaker 1: gave her a nine. It's like you picked it?
Speaker 2: How is that a nine?
Speaker 1: But also it seems like everybody who who went in
Speaker 1: and worked with them they gave them ten. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: it was like She's like, this was incredible, this was amazing.
Speaker 1: You were a little a little off right, here, so
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a nine exactly.
Speaker 2: It was unfortunately the dance choice for you nine, Like, wait.
Speaker 1: Whoever chose apostle Dobles should be shot at nine?
Speaker 2: Nine? I don't know how that was not three tests?
Speaker 1: That was yeah, that was like to me, I was like,
Speaker 1: come on, this is maybe the best possile Dobley we've
Speaker 1: seen this season.
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know. I think I still think Alex
Speaker 2: and Valves was just.
Speaker 1: I know, I said it, I said it, I take
Speaker 1: it back, okay.
Speaker 2: Unlike Danielle and Who's funny just.
Speaker 1: Gonna live with this? Next up, Alex and val doing
Speaker 1: this instant dance thing, which man, I saw the rules,
Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't quite understand what they were doing.
Speaker 1: And then I was like, this seems really unfair for
Speaker 1: the men.
Speaker 2: Because why would you say.
Speaker 1: That because they have to lead.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess that's true.
Speaker 1: Whereas if you're following a pro who probably knows you know,
Speaker 1: fifteen different like cha chaw moves just off the top
Speaker 1: of their head, and you've only been doing this for
Speaker 1: eight weeks or ten weeks or whatever, like, it just
Speaker 1: seemed unfair because like they like the women can can
Speaker 1: be sort of cued by the physicality of the men, right,
Speaker 1: like true, yeah, push them here, pulled them in, and
Speaker 1: I think somebody even said I think carry on. One
Speaker 1: of the judges actually pointed it out because I was like,
Speaker 1: I was worried when it came to Dylan. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh God, this is gonna be hard. But actually they
Speaker 1: were amazing. We'll get to that. But so alex en
Speaker 1: Val did their instant dance. Watching them run off to
Speaker 1: pick their outfits and go behind it, it was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, dressed. Yeah, just gonna show them in
Speaker 1: their their robes. Yeah, And it stressed me out. Made
Speaker 1: me think of like having to quick change on our sets, yes,
Speaker 1: before we went out for the next scene while the
Speaker 1: audience is waiting.
Speaker 2: It just seems like they like they're trying to add
Speaker 2: one more layer of drama that wasn't necessary, Like now
Speaker 2: you got to run and get dre And it's like,
Speaker 2: as Dylan was running for his clothes, I was like, dude,
Speaker 2: just stay in your tidy whities, just do that and
Speaker 2: go dance, like just go so the whole just running
Speaker 2: for the I thought, and then and then getting dressed
Speaker 2: in the where you see the silhouette of the person
Speaker 2: getting changed. It was all just it was so unnecessarily theatrical.
Speaker 1: I think. And I also think that what you said
Speaker 1: earlier is really app that all they did is really
Speaker 1: they just had to rehearse four different dances, like so.
Speaker 2: Basically a song I didn't know, which can't be easy, obviously,
Speaker 2: but it's not like you didn't know what you were
Speaker 2: gonna do when you couldn't rehearse it, and they give
Speaker 2: it to you right there on the dance floor, like, hey, guys,
Speaker 2: we're between the fifteen dances that are out there. We're
Speaker 2: gonna pick one for you on the spot. While you're there,
Speaker 2: start a song, go yeah you know which? And again
Speaker 2: I don't even know, as somebody who is a total
Speaker 2: neophyte to this, I don't know if that's even possible
Speaker 2: pro on pro right. I mean, if you put two
Speaker 2: pros together and you go, pasa doblay right now, press
Speaker 2: a button the music starts, are they gonna go out
Speaker 2: and kill it?
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, but that's what was interesting,
Speaker 1: because the judges were kind of reacting as if they
Speaker 1: wouldn't know what to do, right. They were like, right,
Speaker 1: we don't know what this is. We don't really know
Speaker 1: how to judge this, but that was great. What you
Speaker 1: did with this weird assignment was cool the first time
Speaker 1: they've done it, right, Yeah, yeah, yeah, and work out
Speaker 1: the tweaks maybe, yeah, I see.
Speaker 2: I think what I would do is I would do
Speaker 2: you're allowed to rehearse what dances you are, but the
Speaker 2: dance floor opens up and there's something deep underneath that
Speaker 2: can kill you. So it's either a pit of snakes
Speaker 2: or spikes. It's fire, just.
Speaker 1: Just a crocodiles crocodile.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, it's a fox trot over fire,
Speaker 2: or you know, a tango over tangle vines like that
Speaker 2: kind of thing, like fun with it, right.
Speaker 1: Or even if it was more expressive, right, like you
Speaker 1: had to do a dance based on this prop or
Speaker 1: this theme, like you know, I don't know, yeah there
Speaker 1: was something.
Speaker 2: Or you have to switch your partner for this one
Speaker 2: dance and you have to go with a different pro
Speaker 2: or something like that, like it's it's an instant tango
Speaker 2: with somebody you've never danced with before, like something like that.
Speaker 2: I know, But that's kind of the point is maybe
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be who knows, again it's I know they're
Speaker 2: trying to make it more, but you're right, it's like
Speaker 2: they have to. Hey, here's the four possibilities. So we're
Speaker 2: going to rehearse four things and we'll see which one
Speaker 2: gets picked.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, they gave him tens across the board,
Speaker 1: which I was like, okay, are we just going to
Speaker 1: give tens to everybody? Which pretty much pretty much what
Speaker 1: they did. Yeah, and then Dylan and Daniella. Wow. Like
Speaker 1: I said, I was nervous for him because I was like,
Speaker 1: this seems like he's got to lead this. Can he
Speaker 1: do this fox trot? I don't even remember what a
Speaker 1: fox trot is? But this was incredible?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Ye, And like watching the judges react, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm not crazy. This was really good, which is one
Speaker 1: of his.
Speaker 2: I think the best dance he's ever done. And that's
Speaker 2: saying something because there's he's done some other really good ones,
Speaker 2: but this was just talk about in the clutch and
Speaker 2: pulling it out when you need it, you know, I mean,
Speaker 2: it was great.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it goes to show that he's always
Speaker 1: been his worst enemy, you know, like which he talks about.
Speaker 1: You know, he's like I came in here thinking I
Speaker 1: can't do this and I've got to just make him
Speaker 1: laugh or figure out how to and when he trusts
Speaker 1: himself or just gets out of his head, he's a
Speaker 1: great dancer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he really is good.
Speaker 1: And he's got the best partner in the game, I think.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was so good.
Speaker 2: She's really phenomenal.
Speaker 1: And the ten's across the board.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Then Elaine and Alan they got the uh the quick step,
Speaker 1: which quick step is a weird dance. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, again, it's not my favorite. Quick Step and jive
Speaker 2: are not my favorite dances. No, just they aren't.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this was okay. You could feel that they didn't
Speaker 1: know quite what they were doing. She definitely had some missteps,
Speaker 1: but it's hard to fault them. I'm like, what do
Speaker 1: we expect from these people? Yeah? So yeah, they ended
Speaker 1: up getting nines, which was the only Yeah, non ten
Speaker 1: given for.
Speaker 2: This whole Probably probably fair, but it's still like, I
Speaker 2: still don't get the judging and I never went on anything.
Speaker 1: Ye, Robert Irwin and Whitney came out. They got the
Speaker 1: chat cham again injury potential reference. Yeah, is this guy
Speaker 1: gonna be okay?
Speaker 2: Is this the one where they end where he's holding
Speaker 2: her flat.
Speaker 1: No, this is this is where he ripped open his
Speaker 1: shirt right coming, we already see the one where he's
Speaker 1: holding her flat or is that the end? No, that's next.
Speaker 1: I think that's okay freestyle. I think that was during
Speaker 1: the freestyle.
Speaker 2: Because that seemed like a direct ripoff of Danielle's move.
Speaker 1: Okay, but no, I thought when he ripped his shirt open,
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, we're really just pulling out all
Speaker 1: the stops.
Speaker 2: It's yeah, do what you gotta do. Bro. I love
Speaker 2: that you're right at the end.
Speaker 1: Like you got it. Just come in? What else can
Speaker 1: I add to this? My abs?
Speaker 2: There you go. There's a ton of abs on display tonight.
Speaker 2: By the way, it was like an ab Fest tonight.
Speaker 2: It was like an Abercrombie store in nineteen ninety eight
Speaker 2: out there tonight. So yeah, crazy, crazy all right.
Speaker 1: Next up was Jordan and Ezra. I love to see
Speaker 1: in their reaction when they got the tango, because I
Speaker 1: guess they wanted to t but I love that they
Speaker 1: both did it, and that's what I was like, these
Speaker 1: two are so in sync, you know, like that's it
Speaker 1: was so cool to see that they're.
Speaker 2: Just having fun to clearly friends.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so fun. Yeah, And I thought this was great,
Speaker 1: definitely cool to see like, yeah, okay, you can you
Speaker 1: can pull a dance out of thin air. Yep, tens
Speaker 1: across the board. Then we got a performance to a
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift song.
Speaker 2: And can't dance anything with Taylor Swift. Apparently every time
Speaker 2: he's up there by himself, they put him because he
Speaker 2: was a Tailor Swift dancer. It's a Taylor Swift jeohn. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's also because they're tonight. It was also really
Speaker 2: on display the synergy of Disney and Hulu where it
Speaker 2: was just like Zutopia is coming out.
Speaker 1: And we got, you know, the all our.
Speaker 2: Dance stuff is coming out, the aristour thing is coming
Speaker 2: out on Hulu. It's like everything is now being funneled
Speaker 2: through Dancing with the Stars. So it was it was
Speaker 2: interesting to see that the Disney fam on full full
Speaker 2: alert tonight totally.
Speaker 1: Then we entered what I think should have been the
Speaker 1: whole finale, the freestyle. This was just so cool. It
Speaker 1: seems like the celebrities got to choreograph almost as much,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean, like or at least
Speaker 1: insert their personality and their style and their taste, and
Speaker 1: that was just really cool just across the board. Even
Speaker 1: if I didn't like love every choice, I was like, well,
Speaker 1: this is an expression of you in a way that
Speaker 1: I wish this show had a little bit more of,
Speaker 1: not just in the finale, but I just think it's
Speaker 1: always best when it's more about like self expression or
Speaker 1: some kind of storytelling or something that you know feels.
Speaker 2: That's why I knew you were gonna love the freestyle
Speaker 2: because I mean there's it's story after story after story.
Speaker 1: Totally, which is her personality, you know, actually to that point,
Speaker 1: like alex is I mean, Alex the dance was so good, phenomenal, phenomenal,
Speaker 1: but I will say the choice to go like sexy
Speaker 1: sexy Dominatrix was a little like that's really, that's all,
Speaker 1: that's all we got.
Speaker 2: Really it was great, It was great, It was cool.
Speaker 1: But like as a self expression, like and that's you know.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, like I don't.
Speaker 2: Know, but see I loved that part of her journey
Speaker 2: because she said something in her inner preciow package which
Speaker 2: was interesting where she's like, we when I met you, val,
Speaker 2: we were the only couple that didn't hug right, So
Speaker 2: she went from like she had her sleeves up over
Speaker 2: her hands. She went from being kind of like this
Speaker 2: wilting flower, it's a good point, I'm just going to
Speaker 2: shake to being a dominatrix. And then when there's the
Speaker 2: five of them on the fence with the blue light
Speaker 2: behind them, forget it. That was awesome to me.
Speaker 1: All right, that's a good point, man. You're right, You're right.
Speaker 1: I guess I was just kind of like this is yeah,
Speaker 1: but you're right.
Speaker 2: And she started on a stripper pole and ended on
Speaker 2: a stripper pole. It would have been like come on,
Speaker 2: but I mean like it was that to me was
Speaker 2: like that empowerment of like she was like woke up.
Speaker 1: It was cool, right, right, uh no, surprise ten ten ten? Right,
Speaker 1: And then Dylan and Daniella and this is like for me,
Speaker 1: I mean, this was just the coolest dance ever. I thought,
Speaker 1: you know, hearing how Daniello was chore choreographing it based
Speaker 1: on her being dance yeah, him being.
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh my god, yeah what And you could see
Speaker 4: that in every move, you could see all the like
Speaker 4: ups and downs of that, and it was just beautiful
Speaker 4: and coolest.
Speaker 2: MO two coolest move of the night where he they're
Speaker 2: both on the floor and she grabs him and pulls
Speaker 2: him and he slides right into her lap with like
Speaker 2: his head in her lap.
Speaker 1: Dude, I just I was so like, I mean, I
Speaker 1: got super emotional. I teared up and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like inside, so I just thought it was cool, but yeah,
Speaker 2: super cool, just beautiful and then she flips. She's like
Speaker 2: laying next to them and up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was yeah, And I think because of because of the
Speaker 1: emotionality of this one, I was That's why I was
Speaker 1: sort of like judging everyone else's freestyles like versus you know,
Speaker 1: well kind of you know, because like when Elaine in
Speaker 1: particular came out next and you know, did a sort
Speaker 1: of musical theater number about wanting to be a star,
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, yeah, Like I don't know if
Speaker 1: this develops what we've known about you, like, you know,
Speaker 1: but it's clear that that's her taste, right, Like that's
Speaker 1: her style, Like she is a Broadway fans, She's got
Speaker 1: the she's theater kid energy, and you know, that's that's
Speaker 1: what she that's her self expression, Like that's the story
Speaker 1: she wants to tell. And it was good, you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: of course it was good. It was good. They're all good.
Speaker 2: I mean, they were all good.
Speaker 1: Did everybody get ten for their freestyles? Yeah, tens across
Speaker 1: the board for everybody in their free style. Yeah, and rightfully,
Speaker 1: so rightfully. How do you do that?
Speaker 2: How do you say it's like, this is my biggest
Speaker 2: self expression, my entire season comes this, and then you're
Speaker 2: like nine, Like nobody couldn't do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, totally.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Anyway, going back, Dylan and Danielle got tens, Elaine and
Speaker 1: Allen they came out, like we said, did the sort
Speaker 1: of you know, uh, the story of a young ingenue
Speaker 1: dancer actor got ten's there and Robert and Whitney came out.
Speaker 1: He brought up his dad, wishing his dad could see it,
Speaker 1: his ribs again, is gonna how's this gonna go?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And uh it went great. It was a fantastic dance.
Speaker 2: They were they were great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Again compared to any other Robert Knight though I thought
Speaker 2: he was he was good, but this to me was
Speaker 2: not his best night of dancing. I thought there was better,
Speaker 2: several better dances than his tonight.
Speaker 1: Well, the weird part about this dance for me was
Speaker 1: that I kind of lost track of him a.
Speaker 2: Couple of times that I don't know if it's the
Speaker 2: way they were directing it or what was going to
Speaker 2: Some people dancers agreed it was it was he got
Speaker 2: lost in the shuffle, yes, but yes, no, I agree
Speaker 2: with you one hundred percent. There was times and I
Speaker 2: was kind of like, wait, is this is this the choreography,
Speaker 2: is this the director? What's going on? Because he's lost
Speaker 2: in the shuffle. Then at one point it looked like
Speaker 2: they dropped her, like like it was like she actually
Speaker 2: fell down, but she didn't. She was going where she
Speaker 2: was supposed to be to reappear back on stage, but
Speaker 2: with the way it was shot, it almost looked like
Speaker 2: Both Soon and I were like like we thought, oh wait.
Speaker 1: Did she just fall? I didn't catch that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we so was it But she didn't. It
Speaker 2: was just the way that it was shot. They were
Speaker 2: like moved the whole group was moving her to the
Speaker 2: back to reappear on the backstage, but with the way
Speaker 2: it was shot, it almost looked for a second like
Speaker 2: she fell. So there was a couple things that I
Speaker 2: was like, Oh, maybe the direction of the choreographing was fine,
Speaker 2: and the choreography was fine and the dancing was fine,
Speaker 2: but I was like, no, man, I.
Speaker 1: Think it felt like there was a lot of other
Speaker 1: people you know around, and you know, especially compared to
Speaker 1: like Alex and Dylan. It just didn't just didn't have
Speaker 1: the thing, and I kind of wanted so at this
Speaker 1: point of the night, I was like, Dylan, give it
Speaker 1: to him.
Speaker 2: Come on, see I was, I was. I was team
Speaker 2: Alex at this point. But then this is the one
Speaker 2: where they end with her bent over and he's like
Speaker 2: holding the back of her head and I'm sorry, but that,
Speaker 2: to me, hearkens to the Dylan move where that went
Speaker 2: viral that everybody did, and it seems like she kind
Speaker 2: of went, we need to do something like that and
Speaker 2: basically did the same kind of move. And I was like, really,
Speaker 2: you're gonna You're gonna that was like their signature. This
Speaker 2: wasn't something that slipped by. This was there was people
Speaker 2: recreating this on the internet. It's like it's it just
Speaker 2: felt a little like, really, you're gonna do that. We
Speaker 2: We're gonna change it slightly and then be like look
Speaker 2: what we're doing.
Speaker 1: It was a little I.
Speaker 2: Don't know, it wasn't that wasn't kind of cool to me?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Interesting, all right? Then Jordan and Ezra and this
Speaker 1: was just Jordan on full display. Yeah, for her to
Speaker 1: just be like, well, this is my style and to
Speaker 1: think back from all this ballroom dancing gown stuff to.
Speaker 2: This, which she almost never dances with him though I know,
Speaker 2: I mean, it was like she was by herself. Now
Speaker 2: I have I have a question about this dance. I
Speaker 2: loved it. She was phenomenal. That being said, you and
Speaker 2: I watched the East Coast feed, so we can do
Speaker 2: this podcast right afterwards. Whether you watch East Coast fees
Speaker 2: or you watch the West Coast feed. Usually you can
Speaker 2: tell by the ads your audience. Eighty percent of the
Speaker 2: ads are for medicines that you can take for something
Speaker 2: and you just have to. There's then thirty minutes of
Speaker 2: this will also kill you, and you're going to taste
Speaker 2: the color blue and your eyes are going to bleed
Speaker 2: and all that kind of thing. It's one after another
Speaker 2: and then it's a ARP. So my question is is
Speaker 2: picking a song that keeps repeating the word over and
Speaker 2: over and over again guaranteeing you that certain people in
Speaker 2: the middle of the country are not going to vote
Speaker 2: for you. Yeah, do you think she just walked in
Speaker 2: and went, I'm just throwing it out there. They're not
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna no one's gonna beat Robert, So I'm
Speaker 2: gonna do what the hell I want to do, and
Speaker 2: that's just gonna be the way it.
Speaker 1: Is, absolutely, and that's I actually totally appreciated that because.
Speaker 2: It wasn't a bad thing. I was just like, oh,
Speaker 2: that's risky.
Speaker 1: No, I think it was. But I think like she
Speaker 1: was just like, all right, the stage is mine for
Speaker 1: going out. I get three minutes and I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: what I care about and how I like to dance.
Speaker 1: I mean, I got the feeling like this is how
Speaker 1: she would dance and if she were to move it
Speaker 1: into entertainment or you know, I don't know if she
Speaker 1: has her own music like Aspirations, but it seemed like
Speaker 1: she was like leading a fool on dance number that
Speaker 1: was centering her and her taste and her music and
Speaker 1: what she likes to listen to and how she likes
Speaker 1: to move. And it definitely felt like a departure for
Speaker 1: the show, but it made me want to see more
Speaker 1: of that.
Speaker 2: It's like, why isn't there more hip hop style dancing,
Speaker 2: which is hugely entertaining.
Speaker 1: Yep, and it's like so athletic, so athletic.
Speaker 2: I get that you have a bunch of things you
Speaker 2: want to hit. Of course, everyone wants to do a
Speaker 2: fox trot. Everyon wants to do a tangle. Of course,
Speaker 2: you get all that stuff. You can't tell me that
Speaker 2: the jive and the quick step are kind of similar.
Speaker 2: You can't remove one of those and put in hip
Speaker 2: hop night or yeah what you know, some I don't know,
Speaker 2: but some other style that's like that because it was
Speaker 2: so entertaining.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess it. Guess yeah. I mean, like the
Speaker 1: ballroom dancing styles are just like it's a cannon that's
Speaker 1: already established, Like you can't add things to it unless
Speaker 1: it's contemporary or free style.
Speaker 2: Right, maybe, but it seems like they should add that
Speaker 2: because it was as a viewer, I was all.
Speaker 1: In, should be a dance competition show, not a ballroom
Speaker 1: dancing right, right, but because you could expand its type
Speaker 1: of dances.
Speaker 2: But at the same it's dancing with the stars, so
Speaker 2: you're trying to hit a bunch of different dance styles.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: Again, when you go on Top Chef, if you're an
Speaker 2: Italian chef, at some point they're going to throw an
Speaker 2: Asian night at you, right like, because you've got to
Speaker 2: be able to do everything. That's what makes you the
Speaker 2: top chef. So if you're the best dancer, shouldn't you
Speaker 2: be hey foxtrot and then now you got to do
Speaker 2: hip hop and now you got to do it? Just
Speaker 2: seems like you should read after every.
Speaker 1: Rush, I wonder, man, like, I mean, our other here's
Speaker 1: the question, Actually, are other forms of dance like hip
Speaker 1: hop as formalized and sort of codified and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's a there's a tradition of competitive
Speaker 1: ballroom dancing that is, you know what, a lot of
Speaker 1: the judging in the show that we didn't understand from
Speaker 1: the beginning and probably still don't is based upon right
Speaker 1: like that there's certain techniques, there's certain moves, there's certain rules,
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think I mean hip hop
Speaker 1: is just a much more wide open category. It also
Speaker 1: might be a dancing show, right there should just be like,
Speaker 1: well there.
Speaker 2: Is so think you can dance and that's just I
Speaker 2: think so, but it's also maybe the other thing is
Speaker 2: in hip hop, and again that shows you how little
Speaker 2: I know about the art form, maybe there's not a
Speaker 2: whole lot of partner work in hip hop, Like it's
Speaker 2: just you're just by yourself. So it's that's another thing
Speaker 2: that would be a difficult thing, is it's just like
Speaker 2: you can't how do you? How do you do that alone?
Speaker 1: I think that's a big component of it, especially for
Speaker 1: a show that's built on partnering people up.
Speaker 2: And the question is are will the judges ding you
Speaker 2: for going away from something like if in the middle
Speaker 2: of your fox trot you do your side by side
Speaker 2: and you throw in some hip hop? Is that a
Speaker 2: big no no? Or is that like you just did
Speaker 2: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: That's why they haven't done it except for when they
Speaker 1: did their contemporary, they haven't really been able to do that.
Speaker 1: They you know, even they've had to show that they
Speaker 1: can do the kicks and things that are specific to
Speaker 1: the bad dance.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: But that's what that was. My question is it's a
Speaker 2: it's a it's a from an entertainment point of view,
Speaker 2: it was a question of knowing your audience and did
Speaker 2: you did you turn your audience off by having a
Speaker 2: song that constantly was repeating a swear word, and then
Speaker 2: at the end of the day it was like, I
Speaker 2: agree with you where it's like, oh she obviously just
Speaker 2: didn't care and was like this is this is now
Speaker 2: me here, this is me. Yeah, And but I you know,
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think it was I think
Speaker 2: Robert won before the night even started. So I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody could have come and danced their heart out
Speaker 2: and won tonight other than Robert, because Alex did, right, So,
Speaker 2: I mean we literally saw it. She she had the
Speaker 2: best score of the night. She had three three dances
Speaker 2: with three perfect scores, right, so she even the judges said,
Speaker 2: you had a perfect night of dancing, whereas Robert didn't.
Speaker 2: So it was obviously the overall, you know, the over
Speaker 2: the cumulative dancing as opposed to just tonight, because just
Speaker 2: tonight to me, Alex won.
Speaker 1: Wow. All right, So really at this point, what were
Speaker 1: you surprised by any of the revelations of who got eliminated?
Speaker 1: Were you? I guess the order? Were you? Really?
Speaker 2: We were calling him out as it happened.
Speaker 1: I I like to your point about Jordan, I thought
Speaker 1: she might get eliminated earlier. Oh really, Yeah, as much
Speaker 1: as I love her and everything. Obviously I guess everyone
Speaker 1: else did too, but I was like, I could see
Speaker 1: this turning off some people. And I think, like their
Speaker 1: Halloween dance wasn't that great?
Speaker 2: Now with the was it rope gate? What do you
Speaker 2: call it?
Speaker 1: And she kind of has a little bit of like
Speaker 1: a punk rock attitude, like she does you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like there's a little bit of like I'm
Speaker 1: a bad take it or leave it. I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: my thing, and you know, she's always kind of mugging
Speaker 1: the camera and doing stuff. So I was like, I
Speaker 1: wonder how popular this actually is is So there was
Speaker 1: part of me that was like she could be eliminated.
Speaker 2: Well that was question and again knowing your when you say,
Speaker 2: and again I didn't have a problem with it because
Speaker 2: I get what she meant and it's more hyperbole than
Speaker 2: anything else. But sitting there and saying winning the trophy
Speaker 2: is more important to me than winning a gold medal
Speaker 2: for my country. I can see how people might be like, ooh.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's interesting. I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 2: Where it's just like I and again, this is her
Speaker 2: personal thing. She's like I've been watching this show since
Speaker 2: I was five and this is all I've ever wanted.
Speaker 2: So I get it, and I can take it with
Speaker 2: a grain of salt. But there might be some people like,
Speaker 2: how could you want to win this dance show more
Speaker 2: than a medal for your country?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: So yeah, but again, I frankly, I dig your attitude.
Speaker 2: I thought it was great. I thought the dance was great.
Speaker 2: I thought she killed it tonight. Yeah, but I just
Speaker 2: no one was gonna beat Robert Well.
Speaker 1: I was still kind of hoping for an upset. But
Speaker 1: then it went Elaine that Dylan was next, which I
Speaker 1: was super bummed about, but I guess I shouldn't have
Speaker 1: been that surprised. And then the final three, Jordan was out,
Speaker 1: left with Robert and Alex And at this point I
Speaker 1: was kind of like, you know, it could be she
Speaker 1: could win because and they closest ever, so that's super interesting.
Speaker 1: She was very close.
Speaker 2: I have a pitch for you. Yeah, for the next season,
Speaker 2: get rid of the Insta dance yep, whatever the whatever
Speaker 2: they call it, the instant just add water dance, the
Speaker 2: just Add Water Dance, the Insta pot one button Dance.
Speaker 2: Have everybody dance again, however, pick a new category. Everybody
Speaker 2: gets to dance do an elimination, then that gets you
Speaker 2: down to the final two. Then you have a dance
Speaker 2: off between the final two and another round of voting.
Speaker 1: Well, they've done past seasons with less people, right I think. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, this seemed like a lot of people to
Speaker 1: have in the finale, that's said. But that said, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it would also just get kind of boring
Speaker 1: to watch if it was really down to like two people,
Speaker 1: like could you do a whole episode or even like no.
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm saying that course in the course of the night,
Speaker 2: and then you just do one more dance with just
Speaker 2: the final two when you do a vote. Right there,
Speaker 2: that's it. It's the two you get to dance. So again,
Speaker 2: you you have to prepare another dance as if you're
Speaker 2: going to be in the final two and you either
Speaker 2: get to dance that dance or you don't get to
Speaker 2: dance that dance. And at that point it should be
Speaker 2: you get to pick your dance, you get to pick
Speaker 2: the style, you get to pick the song, you have
Speaker 2: to pick whatever you want you have to Maybe maybe
Speaker 2: the thing that's cool is the the pro the the
Speaker 2: celebrity has to choreograph it. Mmmmm, I like that, which
Speaker 2: could be cool. It's like you have one final dance
Speaker 2: that you get you can get help. You can get
Speaker 2: help obviously, but you kind of have to choreograph.
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's kind of what I felt about
Speaker 1: the freestyle, to be honest.
Speaker 2: I felt that the more it was more more personality
Speaker 2: than I'm guessing they were. They were their pros were
Speaker 2: still a right mostly responsible for the choreo.
Speaker 1: So I haven't really thought about this, but I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna throw it out there, like where do you think
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna go from here? Like is a is a
Speaker 1: lane Hender? Oh, you may have like a resurgence in
Speaker 1: her acting career, do you think she's gonna I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know. I mean, again, we we did
Speaker 2: not know the last three or four winners of Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars, right, So that again is not a
Speaker 2: good benchmark since you and I are very very pop
Speaker 2: culturally illiterate when it comes to this, right. So so
Speaker 2: there's I mean, but again I had to google the
Speaker 2: guy who was last year's winner, who's the host of
Speaker 2: their podcast, Like I don't watch The Bachelor, so I
Speaker 2: don't know any of that kind of stuff. So I hope. So,
Speaker 2: I mean again, it certainly helps in social media. We've
Speaker 2: seen Danielle's followers kick up by like half a million,
Speaker 2: other people's kicking up by half a million to a million.
Speaker 2: So I mean in that sense, which is what it
Speaker 2: is today to be a celebrity, I mean that it
Speaker 2: certainly helps there. I don't know if you're gonna get
Speaker 2: more jobs or anything. Who knows.
Speaker 1: I mean, Robert Irwin is obviously gonna be a a
Speaker 1: force to be reckoned with as a as a conservationist,
Speaker 1: and I wonder if you know that will lead to
Speaker 1: I don't know what.
Speaker 2: I guess, like, well, he did it with Bindy. It's
Speaker 2: it's the perfect example because his sister literally happened to
Speaker 2: so did her life. Yeah, she hosted. She was the
Speaker 2: first host she hosted like Bindy. As a kid. She
Speaker 2: was like a little little like three or four, hosting
Speaker 2: a show after her father. Interesting, yeah she might not
Speaker 2: have been four, but right after her dad passed she
Speaker 2: started hosting like Bindi Junior or whatever. And they they
Speaker 2: really built that family really got together and and like
Speaker 2: made something because their father made a lot, but he
Speaker 2: was like the man, like everything was on this guy's shoulders,
Speaker 2: and then when he passed, they were like, what are
Speaker 2: we going to do? And the whole family really just
Speaker 2: picked up the slack and yeah, they picked up the
Speaker 2: man and have like expanded on it. And I mean
Speaker 2: they're they're royalty in Australia and rightfully so I mean
Speaker 2: they've they've done it. It seems like as really wonderful people.
Speaker 2: So U but yeah, I don't know. Do you think
Speaker 2: it will?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I don't. Yeah, I'm I'm wondering, what's
Speaker 1: somebody like Alex like, now that she's proven that she's
Speaker 1: this amazing dancer, Like, what do you do with that? Like?
Speaker 1: Is she gonna you know? I mean, she have a
Speaker 1: huge TikTok following and she already had one. So does
Speaker 1: this translate to being a professional dancer in some other capacity?
Speaker 1: That could be really cool. I mean, she's obviously proven
Speaker 1: herself and she's so good. Do you think moving into choreography?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, do you think the pros would
Speaker 2: be super happy if just all these people just kept dancing? Like? However,
Speaker 2: hey man, it's just like Dylan, I'm starting to take
Speaker 2: a ballroom class and my girlfriend and I are just
Speaker 2: dancing together. I mean it's like, yes, I think so too.
Speaker 2: I think there it's like they introduce you to dance,
Speaker 2: and now it's a part of your life, and so
Speaker 2: I think they'd be happy if it was like they
Speaker 2: continued just dancing. Well, Danielle told us that she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna dance forever. It's like, great, that's awesome.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to check in in like six months.
Speaker 2: Well that's when I'll speak to her next after her
Speaker 2: life latest post. So it's gonna be it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a sad Pod meets World the next time, because it's
Speaker 2: just gonna be the two of you because I'm not
Speaker 2: talking to her.
Speaker 1: Oh ah, all right, overall feelings, last thoughts on a
Speaker 1: season of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: You know, it was fun, Yeah, it was fun. It
Speaker 2: was maddening, it was awesome. It was annoying. It was
Speaker 2: anxiety inducing, it was stress release, it was it was
Speaker 2: so many different contradictions. I loved being able to go there.
Speaker 2: I loved some of the people that I've met and
Speaker 2: seeing kind of how the machine was working. Getting to
Speaker 2: watch this journey from an insider's view through Danielle was
Speaker 2: really outstanding. I fully enjoyed it. You know, I I
Speaker 2: can see us for a number of reasons watching next season.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, I think we should also probably tell people that
Speaker 2: we're not planning to end podmeats Tworld just because Dancing
Speaker 2: with the Stars has done.
Speaker 1: We're just gonna keep watching stuff.
Speaker 2: We are but we don't know what yet.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I find watching reality television with you immensely entertaining.
Speaker 2: I feel the same show, I feel exactly the same way,
Speaker 2: exactly the.
Speaker 1: Same way, and I think coming as a pop cultural
Speaker 1: nube and not feeling bad about that because you're on
Speaker 1: the same boat. Except it was nice. So the question
Speaker 1: is do we stay on even ground and watch something
Speaker 1: that we also don't know anything about, or do we
Speaker 1: pick something that one of us has seen before and knows.
Speaker 2: No kind of like neither of us knowing what's going on.
Speaker 2: I Also the question I have is I think people
Speaker 2: like us watching something that's currently on, yeah, where it's
Speaker 2: not like, hey, we're going back and watching season two
Speaker 2: with a Bachelor. It's like, no, we're watching one a
Speaker 2: week of whatever the hell is one with.
Speaker 1: Everybody out of the excitement. And that's part of what
Speaker 1: has you know, maybe connected me to America in a
Speaker 1: way I've never been before.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, maybe we should ask our fan who listens
Speaker 2: to this podcast what we should uh, what we should.
Speaker 1: Are tons of fans, tons of fans we have.
Speaker 2: We can literally send out thank you cards to everybody.
Speaker 1: No, to be fair, we've we've we've had a great
Speaker 1: run here. A lot of our listeners have come along
Speaker 1: and given us amazing feedback. This has been way more
Speaker 1: fun than I ever expected. And who needs Danielle? I
Speaker 1: mean she has to she had to be competing on
Speaker 1: the show, of course I have.
Speaker 2: I have another suggestion for you. Okay, I can't even
Speaker 2: believe I'm going to throw this out into the atmosphere.
Speaker 2: But what about you and I together trying to get
Speaker 2: on the amazing race?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I think I would do it.
Speaker 2: I think I would too. Actually, Oh god, right, you
Speaker 2: and I stuck there like South America or whatever.
Speaker 1: If we have one of our moments, because we've had
Speaker 1: our moments, like we definitely have had our debates and
Speaker 1: our actual very emotional, very personal moments, I don't know
Speaker 1: I can handle having that on camera.
Speaker 2: I think we'd have to. What we'd have to do
Speaker 2: is we would we would find a time to take
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Speaker 1: All right, well, who's doing the Like they always start
Speaker 1: with a big jump, like you've got to like skydive
Speaker 1: or bungee jump. Oh, the first episode has always literally
Speaker 1: we haven't no, Well, definitely we should watch it. I
Speaker 1: actually have. That's one of the few the Amazing Race
Speaker 1: and Survivor where when Alex was pregnant, that's what we
Speaker 1: started watching and and then we I've watched a few
Speaker 1: of the newer seasons too. Amazing Race. Yeah, it's no joke. Joke, Well,
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Speaker 1: to like not have flights and like have to but
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Speaker 1: it used to be they were just full on traveling
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Speaker 2: I mean, meet and Barley wrapped in a ship stomach?
Speaker 1: Can you and I would be really good at it?
Speaker 1: You and I really good at it?
Speaker 2: Again, I think it would be I'd be fun also,
Speaker 2: I would or if they've ever had somebody who like
Speaker 2: had two people where as they're doing it podcast about it.
Speaker 1: We'll just be podcasting from the back of a taxi.
Speaker 2: And oh god, I think it would be great. I
Speaker 2: want to see how many different foreign jails you'd have
Speaker 2: to bail me out of.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't be the problem, you you. I mean, it's true. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's you and me in Amsterdam when we were sixteen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's sixteen and eighty. Yeah, that's true. The drugs, I.
Speaker 2: Think, I think so yeah. I don't mean to throw
Speaker 2: that out in the ether, but I thought that thought
Speaker 2: that the other day I was like, oh man, that
Speaker 2: could be fun.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I hate the idea of being
Speaker 1: on camera, but Amazing Race sounds pretty.
Speaker 2: It's so it's just are you guys, are you filming
Speaker 2: yourself as you're doing everything, or a camera people with you?
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. It's still reality TV, right, And
Speaker 1: that's why, like, if there was any drama between us,
Speaker 1: it's out there in the world.
Speaker 2: My friend, I love it.
Speaker 1: I love it, but I mean, you would kill because
Speaker 1: you're so funny. It would be amazing.
Speaker 2: But you're also really good at traveling. That's why I
Speaker 2: think the two of us together. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 2: the funny thing is would be lending. Danielle would do
Speaker 2: a podcast about watching us on The Amazing Race and
Speaker 2: it would start with something like, Okay, I've known them
Speaker 2: for thirty years, so in this scene, they.
Speaker 1: Ha, Rider is so pisto at world right now and
Speaker 1: he is gritting his.
Speaker 2: T That's what it would be. That's totally what it
Speaker 2: would be too. Oh god, it would be fun though.
Speaker 1: All right, Wow, Jersey, we'll see where.
Speaker 2: I think we should watch. It's a great question. What
Speaker 2: does everybody out there I think we should watch? Let
Speaker 2: us know because we really don't know, but we are
Speaker 2: going to tell you because we've gotten a lot of
Speaker 2: people asking that this won't be the end of Pod
Speaker 2: Meats World.
Speaker 1: It probably won't be called pod Meats World though, right, No,
Speaker 1: I guess it'll be Race. Well, that's it for this
Speaker 1: episode of Pod Meats Tworlds and potentially this season, and
Speaker 1: then maybe the name of that show, the Amazing Pod,
Speaker 1: the Amazing Pod. That's pretty good. That's pretty good, all right.
Speaker 1: This wraps Season thirty four of Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 2: Congratulate.
Speaker 1: We may not know a jive from a drive through,
Speaker 1: but we know what we learned way back in Phoenie's class.
Speaker 1: Danielle Fischel was the star of the show We Love
Speaker 1: You All, Pod dismissed. Pod Meets World is an iHeart
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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Karp and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge
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