1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,520 Speaker 1: I think I was playing with a really short player, 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: someone who was like five ft tall, and obviously they're 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: making everything and I'm missing everything. And I'm like, you 4 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: know what, you know what. I figured out why I'm 5 00:00:12,280 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: missing all my putts. I'm too tall. This is why. Yeah, 6 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 1: I'm too far away from the ball. There are five 7 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,720 Speaker 1: feet tall, there's so much closer to the ball. That's 8 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: why they pretty well. So then in the middle of 9 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: the round, obviously there's no mirrors on the golf course, 10 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I start to bend lower to the ball. I start 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,840 Speaker 1: making everything. I'm just like, I feel so great over 12 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: the golf ball. The ball looks bigger, the whole looks bigger. 13 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm one with the ball because I'm closer to the wall. 14 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: And then after the round, reporters are asking me questions 15 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: about my new punting steps. I'm like, yeah, I'm just 16 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: a little lower to the ball, Like, what's the big deal. 17 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: And I see a picture of myself. I'm like, oh, 18 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: I understand why I look funny. Hi, Michelle Ee West, 19 00:00:56,760 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: I am a mom or a professional golfer. Hello everybody, 20 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,199 Speaker 1: and welcome back to a brand new episode of Off 21 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: the Beat. Our first episode of Happy New year to 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: all of you. As always, I am your host, Brian 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: baumb Gartner, and to kick off the new year, I'm 24 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: very excited, as you just heard, I have with me 25 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: pro golf extraordinaire and well absolute badass, Michelle we West. Now, 26 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: if you're anything like me, you've probably been familiar with 27 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: Michelle since she was just a young girl taking the 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 1: golf world by storm. That's right, she began her career 29 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: before most people her age were even in middle school. 30 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: And even more impressive than that, Michelle knew she was 31 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: going to be a per fessional golfer when she was 32 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: only seven years old. Seven. Think about that. What were 33 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 1: you doing at age seven? Playing hop scotch, perhaps maybe 34 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: collecting beanie babies? I know I was. Uh. If there 35 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: is an award in golf for the youngest player to 36 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: do basically anything, you can bet that Michelle either has 37 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: or had that record at some point. Since starting her 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: professional career at age ten, she's hit just about every 39 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: golf milestone known to mankind. And now she is using 40 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: her platform to help women and minority owned businesses, and 41 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 1: she's passionate about showing young athletes that they can achieve 42 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: all of their goals, including those outside of their sport. Look, 43 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: if you know me at all, you know I love 44 00:02:56,560 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: golf and in fact, I played with Michelle last year 45 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: at the Hilton Grand Vacations Tournament of Champions, where I 46 00:03:04,280 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: will be again this year in Orlando January nineteen through 47 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: the twenty two. It's my opportunity to play with the 48 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: stars of the LPGA Tour, and there is no bigger 49 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: star than the living legend Michelle we West. So without 50 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: further ado, here she is m w W. Bubble and Squeak. 51 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: I love Bubble and squeak on Bubble and Squeaker, cooking 52 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: at every month, left over from the nubb before. What's 53 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: up a show? Hi? How are you? I'm so good? 54 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: How are you? I'm excited that you're playing next year. 55 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: I won't be there, but I'm so you're playing next year. 56 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: At the time you're gonna come, You're gonna come caddy 57 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: for me? Right? Yeah? No? Is that a note? Was? 58 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: That was just a la? I didn't hear it. That 59 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: was a polite laugh. Oh shoot, there'll be a lot 60 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: of those today, I'm sure. Yeah. You and I played 61 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: together last year at the Hilton Grand Tournament of Champions. 62 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: For the LPGA Tour. Now that might confuse some people 63 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 1: as to why I was playing in the LPGA Tournament 64 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: of Champions, but uh yeah, there was. There's a celebrity component. 65 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: How how are those for you? How is it for 66 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 1: you trying to concentrate and have me definite around around now? Honestly, 67 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: I love these formats are so much fun. I had 68 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 1: a blast. I had an absolute blast. And honestly, if 69 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,120 Speaker 1: we can't concentrate with like outside distraction, then they we 70 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: shouldn't be golf pros in the first place. But you know, 71 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: I think that's the beauty of golf is that you 72 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: can play with other people. You know, you can't you 73 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: can never have the format and let's say NFL. You know, 74 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: we're not going to just like throw in celebrities and 75 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: be like, let's get tackled by you know, NFL tackled um. 76 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: You know. So it's a great format and golf is 77 00:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: very unique in that way. Even if you do poems. 78 00:05:24,560 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: I feel like in tennis it's never the same as well, 79 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: because you're across the net. You know, we've spent we 80 00:05:29,600 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: spent like five hours talking and get to know each other, 81 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: and it was it was so much fun. Yeah, I 82 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: love doing it. I love playing in those events. I 83 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: feel like it's my job because let's face it, I'm 84 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: not gonna win. I feel like it's my job in 85 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: a way to stay out of the way. But I 86 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: do feel that competitive thing, like I do. I do 87 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: want to do well. In fact, there is a there's 88 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: a video that's going around. I think it's on my 89 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: all time highlight video because I only have like three things. 90 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: Where last year with you on eighteen I made a 91 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: twenty yeah for Bertie ish and so I think that. 92 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: I think the folks at the Tournament of Champions literally 93 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: scoured my four rounds to find one redeeming moment. And 94 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: of course I did a big fist pump like an idiot, 95 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: like no, and definitely well yeah, I mean a birdie 96 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: is a birdie, right, Hey, it was a great Bertie. 97 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: It was a great Bertie. Um. Well, look, I've been 98 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: a fan of yours for so so long. Um, I 99 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: want to go back to start to to your childhood. 100 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: You grew up famously in in Hawaii. Your mom was 101 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 1: a golfer, is that right? Yeah? And and was a 102 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: good golfer. Yeah, she played competitively in Korea. You know, 103 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: back in the day though, there weren't a lot of 104 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: women in Korea that played golf. So I think she 105 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: I mean, she said that she won a golf tourn it, 106 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: but there was like only four people in the field exactly, 107 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: and when is a win? Um? So yeah, she my 108 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: my dad and my mom got married and moved to 109 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: the States, and um my mom taught my dad how 110 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: to play golf and they joined those couple's league and 111 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: was very serious about it. And I started playing because 112 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 1: I just wanted to join in on the fun. I 113 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: felt like they were leaving me at my friend's house 114 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: to do something fun by themselves, so I would beg 115 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: them to take me with them so I could go 116 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: out and drive the golf cart. You you started playing 117 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: at age four, h Yeah. I was playing a lot 118 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: of other sports as well as playing baseball, tennis, swimming, 119 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: I did ballet, funny enough, and imagine that. Um, but 120 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: I did a lot of other stuff, and I don't know, 121 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: golf was just I guess another one that I tried. 122 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: At what point did you decide that this was not 123 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: just a little activity you were going to do as 124 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: a child, but that you were you were serious about 125 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: golf specifically, Uh, you're in a laugh. I was pretty young, 126 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: I was about seven. I really wanted to be at 127 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: tennis pro. I really wanted to be a professional athlete. 128 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: That was your goal, that was my goal in life. 129 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: I really wanted to a professional athlete, want to be 130 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: really good at something. And I sucked at baseball. I 131 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: sucked at soccer, I sucked at swimming, sucked at ballet 132 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: and gymnastics. Obviously, I was like a five foot child, 133 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:34,559 Speaker 1: and it was tennis and golf, and I was pretty 134 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: good at tennis, could hit the s h I t 135 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: out of the ball, but I don't know. I'm also 136 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: used to doing that around my child or now at 137 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: BCK that spell not yet um no. But it was 138 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: between tennis and golf, and I just couldn't run to 139 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: the net. So I just made it exacting decision that 140 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,439 Speaker 1: I was gonna be a golfer. And that was a 141 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: day wait, meaning you weren't fast. I'm very slow, really 142 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 1: extremely My feet are like cement blocks, which I guess 143 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 1: is great for golf. Oh it is. You know what's 144 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 1: interesting to at least me, that is, this is so 145 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: lame talking to a real golfer about this, but I 146 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: actually most it's not. It's occasionally cement like I've had 147 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: that before, But I do a visualization where I think 148 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 1: of my my feet my legs as trunks to try 149 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:41,959 Speaker 1: to sway or you know, to keep the lower half still. 150 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 1: So I've I've used that before. So good. So you 151 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: actually have concrete on your feet, so that's you don't 152 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: even have to visualize it. Well, I think the next 153 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 1: time we're together, we're gonna race. I've just decided that 154 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: because I feel like I'm going to lose, well, then 155 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: we definitely should. Okay, So at seven, I mean, it 156 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: doesn't make me laugh because doing my research here, at ten, 157 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: you became the youngest player ever to qualify for the 158 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: US Women's Amateur Public Links Championship. Now you're ten, are 159 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: you are you hitting the ball far? Are you keeping 160 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: it in play? Are you put like, what is your 161 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: what is your strength at this point? Or is it 162 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: just everything? Well, I think there's one factor that I 163 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: think a lot of people don't imagine in their heads 164 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: when they're thinking about a ten year old qualified for 165 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: a national event. I was a behemoth of a child. 166 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: I was five seven when I was ten and I 167 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: weighed a hundred and seventy five pounds, which meant I 168 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: hit the golf ball over to fifty. You hit the 169 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: golf ball over to fifty ten years of age. I 170 00:10:56,040 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: mean I weighed a solid yeah, but still the coordination 171 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: to do this is impressive. Are you doing at ten? 172 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 1: Are you doing like core exercises? Not at all? If 173 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: you see a picture of me, no, I was double 174 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: fisting ice cream at that point, right, Well, that gives 175 00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 1: you energy, I heard, yeah, wow, And are you shooting? 176 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,640 Speaker 1: What does it? What does it take to qualify for 177 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 1: the US Women's Amateur Public Links Championships. I mean, are 178 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: you shooting par I mean I was at that point. 179 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 1: I think I shot like, I don't know, high seventies. 180 00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: I mean else. I mean I was also qualified in Hawaii, 181 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: and I think at that point there weren't a lot 182 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: of people. I think now it's become a very popular 183 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: qualifying site, and that's the talent um, you know. I 184 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: think every year it's getting better and better. I think 185 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: that year not a lot of people try to qualify. 186 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: Sorry I was lucky in that sense, but yeah, they 187 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: shot like high seventies. I think, yeah, but that but 188 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: that's misleading for people who don't really follow this stuff. 189 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: I mean, there was recently a man's qualifying event here 190 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,319 Speaker 1: at the golf course where I am in California. They 191 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: set up the course really hard, and the guys were 192 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: over par over two days. So I mean to say 193 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: high seven, it's not that's not like crazy. I mean, 194 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: if they when they set up the course is hard, 195 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,959 Speaker 1: this is you know, it's difficult. How was it? How 196 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: was it to be in the Who was cutting for you? Mom? 197 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: And dad? I think my dad, I think, okay, yeah, 198 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: did you have a preference at that point? Um? So 199 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: I fought a lot with my dad, but it was 200 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: the more logical one on the golf course. Um, he 201 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: had better coursevantage. And my mom was like, yeah, go 202 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: for it, Yeah, go for it. Yeah, oh the water, 203 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: you can do it. And my dad would be like, no, 204 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: you gotta lay up. Let's be safe. And I would 205 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: always argue with him because I would think more like 206 00:12:57,480 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: my mom. But it was great. I needed someone like 207 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: my on my bed And were you like Dad, like 208 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: you're ten, you're not rational conversation? Oh no. There's so 209 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 1: many funny memories that I have, my dad catting for 210 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: MEAs I would fight with him all the time. It 211 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: was when I was ten at the Public Links, and 212 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: I remember my first time playing in Georgia and know 213 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: it was on Georgia, North Carolina, and there was like 214 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: flower beds and pine needles, stuff that I've never really 215 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,760 Speaker 1: seen before playing golf. And my ball goes into like 216 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: the flower bed and I'm like, dad, flower Like, I'm like, 217 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,960 Speaker 1: why don't you see that? Not blaming myself for hitting 218 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:36,680 Speaker 1: the bad shop, it was like das ball for not 219 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: seeing the flower bed. And there was one time I 220 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: think I was probably in an LPGA tournament when I 221 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: was like thirteen or something, and my dad was catting 222 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: for me, and you might have noticed that there's little 223 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 1: markings on the fairway. There's someone spray paints like a 224 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: yellow triangle or like a red circle, and I think 225 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: it kind of confusing at times if you don't go 226 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: stand right on top of it, because they do a 227 00:13:58,600 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 1: yellow triangle in a yellow school. And my dad missed 228 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 1: what shape it was and gave me the wrong yardage 229 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: by like forty yards, and I hit it like forty 230 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: yards over the green and I remember I vividly remember 231 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: taking the yardage book from him, it's like, you're fired. 232 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: I do this. I do this still. By the way, 233 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:26,840 Speaker 1: this is another thing if you if you're not you know, 234 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: even if you're a golfer and but you're not familiar 235 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: with the tournament golf, there's it's good that you went 236 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: to Stanford. Spoiler alert. There's a lot of math on 237 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the golf course. There's a lot of math, and particularly 238 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: if you're like me and I do it three times 239 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 1: a year, maybe at these tournaments that you know, you 240 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: can't use the yardage guns or lasers. I don't know 241 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: if you can call them guns. I'm always like, hey, 242 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: hand me the gun, and everyone's like, what are you 243 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: talking about. Um, there's a lot of math, and it's 244 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: to the front, and then you've got to add this, 245 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: subtract that, and yeah, well obviously you know what I'm 246 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: talking about. But it's it's it's very difficult and you're 247 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: out there trying not to take time. Especially when I'm 248 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: playing with Michelle we I'm like, just give me and 249 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: just give me just as close as you could get. 250 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: Just give me the number. Move on. How How was 251 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: the attention that you begin getting, How was that for 252 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: your parents? I was I think my parents took a 253 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: definitely heavier load than I did, because back in the day, 254 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: there wasn't you know, Instagram or Twitter or any of that. 255 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: It was only in the physical newspapers. I think there 256 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: are some online articles. But I was going to school 257 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: and now my friends knew who I was. Oh, they 258 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:46,640 Speaker 1: were not aware. No. My my best friend, her grandmother 259 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: would like cut out a newspaper article and highlight the 260 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: most important part so she would read it because she 261 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't read the whole article. Um. But yeah. There was 262 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: this really awkward moment where the mayor I think when 263 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 1: I was like ten or eleven, ended up assigning a 264 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: Michelle we Day and I was this new kid in 265 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: school and everyone hated me, and everyone hated me even 266 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: more after this, and I was like, great, I they 267 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: wanted to do it at school and I'm like, oh, gosh, 268 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:21,960 Speaker 1: anywhere but here please. How old are you at this 269 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: point when there was a Michelle we Day. I think 270 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: I got one when I was like a London and 271 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: then I got one like in two thousand and fifteen. 272 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: I don't know it was. I didn't get a key 273 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: to the park, which was very cool, the key to 274 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: the city which I don't know where the key lock 275 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:41,600 Speaker 1: would be. But did they give you a key? They did? 276 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: See that's weird. I think I was given the key 277 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: to Scranton, but I wasn't given a key. I think 278 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: it was more a metaphorical key to the city. Gave 279 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: me a key, I have a proclamation it's in my office, 280 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: but they did not give me an actual key. What 281 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: is it open? I have no idea. I want to 282 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: find out. It could be like National treasure there. There 283 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: could be some special stuff in there, very special stuff 284 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: that only you could see or whoever else has a key. Um. 285 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 1: You know, I've talked to a lot of well child 286 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: actors for lack of a better term, about what it 287 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: was like for them, not just juggling those relationships between 288 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: school and work, if you will, um, but also balancing 289 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:43,399 Speaker 1: school with doing the actual work. What what percentage of 290 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: time were you in the classroom here? Ten eleven, twelve? 291 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Are you? Are you practicing all the time? You're obviously 292 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,119 Speaker 1: traveling to tournaments, so you're missing school. Do you have 293 00:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: a tutor? How does that work for you? So I 294 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: did have a tutor, and I only practiced after school 295 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,119 Speaker 1: for a couple of hours, yeah, Um, on the weekends, 296 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: I would spend all day on the golf course, but 297 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: I would probably only practice for like two or three 298 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: hours after school. UM. And then my school and my 299 00:18:11,640 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: team my parents met and they said that I'm only 300 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: allowed to miss two weeks out of the school year, 301 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: so I didn't miss much school at all. And because yeah, 302 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: because I when I was younger, UM, I didn't play 303 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 1: in any A j G events UM, which is the 304 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: Junior Golf circuit which you know, there was a tournament 305 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: every week like the LPGA Tour. I didn't play in that. 306 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: I just played in the U s J events during 307 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: the summer, so there was public links US Amter and 308 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:40,560 Speaker 1: U Studio Girls which and then I also played UM 309 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: in the men's public links as well, so like you know, 310 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: four or five, I would try qualify for the US 311 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: Open as well. And then even once I qualified UM 312 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: for LPGA tournaments and started playing in LPGA tournaments, because 313 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: I wasn't a member, I was only allowed to play 314 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 1: six throughout the year. Okay, so I mean most of 315 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 1: my tournaments were in the summer. I missed two weeks 316 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 1: out of the year, so it worked out perfectly interesting. Yeah, 317 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: that's that's surprising. It's I've also I'm just gonna take 318 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: an opportunity to say the two things that I've learned 319 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: so far to be uh comic transcendent golf star is 320 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: to eat just a double fist ice cream and only 321 00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:23,359 Speaker 1: practice after school for like an hour or so. Yeah. 322 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: Mylow on my way. Yeah, my reward for practicing well 323 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: was a king size sicker bar. Oh how often did 324 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 1: you get those? Exactly? So you just mentioned it. It's 325 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: inconceivable to me. But you begin playing with the men, 326 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean, for lack of a better words, weird um 327 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: in two thousand four, so you're fifteen, you became the 328 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: youngest email to play in a p G A event, 329 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: the Sony Open in Hawaii. You are playing on in 330 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: public legs as well. What what is this? Because you 331 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: were playing against them, like in local stuff like that, 332 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: This wasn't a big deal for you. Was this a 333 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: goal of yours to do? Talk to me a little 334 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: bit about that. So it's crazy and uh, this is 335 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: definitely a mindset of a I was fourteen, fourteen year old. 336 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: I had won the state's biggest tournament, women's tournament when 337 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: I was twelve. By thirteen strokes. Y um. And from 338 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 1: then on, I just started playing in men's events because 339 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,719 Speaker 1: there was nothing bigger for me to kind of like 340 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:48,199 Speaker 1: unquote conquer. I guess in the state of Hawaii. You know, 341 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: I was already playing the fifteen through eighteen age range, 342 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,360 Speaker 1: and I don't know. I was just like, to me, 343 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: I didn't really understand the gravity of playing in a 344 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: PG eight Tour event. It was just another tournament that 345 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: was on the island. Because you also have to realize 346 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: that we're five six hours from the West coast, so 347 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, I'm not traveling a lot to the mainland. 348 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: That's expensive for my parents. Um, you know, so I'm like, great, 349 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 1: another tournament here on the island. It's trying to do 350 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: that one. Um. So I didn't really I guess I 351 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: didn't really understand the gravity of it. It was ten 352 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: minutes from my house. At that point. I had played 353 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: on the boys baseball team, and for me, I was like, 354 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: I did that, I could do this as well, right, 355 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: that was literally my mindset. It's kind of crazy thinking 356 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: about that, but yeah, yeah, well yeah, and you just 357 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 1: brought it up. It didn't really occur to me like, 358 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: of course you win by thirteen shots against the women. 359 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: Now that it's the Hawaii Stayed Open women's division, is 360 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: that every age woman? Yeah, so any woman in Hawaii, 361 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: you beat them all by thirteen shots, and so you're like, well, 362 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: who bring up the next one? Right? I mean? Is 363 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: that it? Yeah? I started playing, um, yeah, the men's 364 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 1: tournaments and then, um, I don't know. Just like for me, 365 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: I was just like, let's just try new things. Let's 366 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,959 Speaker 1: qualify for not PJ tournament, Let's play in a PJ tournament. 367 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: I was like, why not? And then people started to 368 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: make a big deal about it, and then I was 369 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: just like and I just started thinking like, why are 370 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: they telling women not to play in these tournaments? Like 371 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 1: it just didn't make sense to me. They felt like 372 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: that shouldn't be the reason why I can't play in 373 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: these events, you know. Um but yeah, just to me, 374 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: I was just like, let's just just try it out. 375 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: See what happens. What's the worst that can happen? What's 376 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: the word? Yeah, you could play like me when I 377 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: played with you, Literally, that's the worst that could happen. 378 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: You played great, did not? We had fun? We had fun. 379 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: At this age, we're talking about ten eleven, you win 380 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: at age twelve. At thirteen, you make the cut on 381 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: the LPGA Tour, you start playing with the men before 382 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: you before your professional golf. What is the achievement for 383 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: you that you're the proudest of. I think when winning 384 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: the U s Women's probably Links when I was thirteen, 385 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 1: because I felt like every year at that tournament, I 386 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: was like getting better and better and better. Um. And 387 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: when I was ten, I made the cut, made into 388 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: match play, lost in the first round. When I was eleven, 389 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: I think I lost in the third round or second round, 390 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,360 Speaker 1: and they just kept getting better and better. And by 391 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: the time I was thirteen, you know, i'd want it, 392 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 1: and I had a really good chance to win when 393 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: I was fourteen as well, but it was just one 394 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: tournament that I really wanted to win. U. S J 395 00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: were like family to me by that point. I would 396 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: started playing in the US Open, you know, when I 397 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: was thirteen, I played in my first major at that 398 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: time Craft to Disco now is a chevron um and 399 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,400 Speaker 1: made it into the final group on Sunday, which I'm 400 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: extremely proud of as well. Yeah, you made the cut 401 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: at the US Women's Open when you were thirteen. Um, 402 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: you turned professional shortly before your sixteenth birthday? Are you? 403 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: You're like a junior sophomore junior. I went to school young. 404 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: I was seventeen when I went to college. Okay, why 405 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: why Stanford? Um? That was a school that I've always 406 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,719 Speaker 1: wanted to go to since I was a kid, partly 407 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: in fact, because my dad didn't get in. Um he 408 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 1: still went to Epen, but my uncle went there and 409 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,760 Speaker 1: my aunt went there. My grandfather was a visiting professor there. 410 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,120 Speaker 1: My dad didn't get in, and I wanted to rub 411 00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: into his face that I got obviously, as you can 412 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,720 Speaker 1: probably see the dynamic between me and my dad. Um. 413 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just I went on a visit there 414 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:11,200 Speaker 1: when we were young. My cousins and I went there, 415 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: and then I found out there was a mall attached 416 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: to the university. I was like, well, I have to 417 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: go here, to go here, So it's just like this. 418 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: It just became one of my like lifelong childhood dreams 419 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: to attend Stanford. But it's interesting, right you you have 420 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: two childhood dreams at least one is to become a 421 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:37,160 Speaker 1: professional athlete, and two is to attend Stanford. Well, I mean, 422 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 1: obviously you can spoiler alert again you did both of 423 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 1: those things, but you're putting that one dream in a 424 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: lot of ways on hold. For the other. You can't 425 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 1: play on the Stanford team because you've decided to go professional. 426 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: Was that difficult for you, No, I think because I 427 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 1: never played in any team setting. I never played in 428 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: high school golf either. I turned pro in high school. 429 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,359 Speaker 1: I didn't feel like I was putting anything on hold. 430 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,119 Speaker 1: I just felt like I was doing I felt like 431 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: I was two trains on two tracks, just going at 432 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 1: the same time. Because when I was younger, it was 433 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 1: really weird. I felt like I had a dual life 434 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: completely because on the golf course, I was a different person. 435 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Off the golf course, I was a different person. I 436 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,919 Speaker 1: was still going to school full time, UM still had 437 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: the same friends, and I just saw college being the 438 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: same thing as high school that I could do kind 439 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 1: of the same thing at the same time. I still 440 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 1: played a full schedule on tour and UM with school. 441 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: I went four and a half years because I didn't 442 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: attend the spring quarter. I took one quarter off so 443 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: I could play in more tournaments, and I actually, you know, 444 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: one twice in college, which is something that I'm extremely, 445 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: extremely proud of Yeah, this has got to be difficult though, 446 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: juggling these these two lives. I mean, it's got to 447 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: be it's got to be difficult. I don't know, to 448 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: be honest, Like, looking back, I do not know how 449 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 1: I went to college, how I graduated college while playing 450 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 1: golf professionally full time on tour. I don't know how 451 00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: I did that because I also took the maximum number 452 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: of units I could, because if I didn't, I would 453 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 1: have been on an eight year track and I didn't 454 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: want to be a thirty year old at college still. Um, 455 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I just I didn't ever feel 456 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: like it was difficult. I had a blast doing it. Mentally, 457 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: it really saved me from burning out. I feel like, 458 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: and also some of the years out o that college 459 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: was more my some of my toughest years on tour 460 00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: because I was going through injuries. I just didn't play well. 461 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,120 Speaker 1: Could that been because of college maybe? But I felt 462 00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: like at the same time, you know, college was great 463 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: for me mentally and um for my emotional development. Yeah. 464 00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: Did you have fun in college? Oh? I had fun, 465 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 1: BEAUTIFU had a lot of fun. Yeah that's good. That's good. 466 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: I love that because I think you know, as someone 467 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:08,680 Speaker 1: as everyone as the world watched this all happening from 468 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: the outside, and we're seeing you as a as a child. 469 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 1: I mean there's no other way to say, as a 470 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: child dominating these events, playing with the men, and then 471 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: deciding that you're going to go to college. I mean, 472 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 1: it's how is the media scrutiny or the media attention 473 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: for you? Because I know they were around Stanford. I remember, 474 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 1: I remember it, like, how how was that for you 475 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 1: to juggle that? Oh? The media scrutiny was awful. I 476 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: mean people were ripping me apart about my decision to 477 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: go to college, which I truly did not understand. I 478 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: don't either, by the way, But I also feel, yeah, 479 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 1: I also feel like I think I thankfully paved the 480 00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: way for other girls to you know, attend college and 481 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, do golf professionally at the same time. So 482 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 1: I feel like it was all worth it. Um, you 483 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: know Al's and Lee and you know Bronte Law they 484 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: finished u c l a UM and then also turned 485 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: professional as well. So I just wanted to show other 486 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,120 Speaker 1: girls and boys that you don't have to give up 487 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: education to be good at a sport or to be 488 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 1: dedicated to a sport. I mean, I got recruited by 489 00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: MG Academy, and I could have easily have left to 490 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: why gone to I MG Academy and just done golf. 491 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: But you know, it was really important to my parents 492 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: that I leave lead a as normal as a life 493 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: as that I could, and that I you know, pay 494 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,640 Speaker 1: attention to that. And I'm really glad that they put 495 00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: a lot of emphasis on that. Which it's funny because 496 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: the media was, you know, scrutinizing my parents for the 497 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 1: complete opposite reason, saying that they were pushing me to 498 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,719 Speaker 1: be in the spotlight that there you know, that I 499 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: don't have a normal life that they are. You know, 500 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 1: it's cruel that I'm doing all of this, but yet 501 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: they were focused. I mean, they could easily have been 502 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: in the parents that they had made them out to 503 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: be and made my life completely different. But they put 504 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: so much emphasis on my my happiness over my career 505 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 1: that I felt like all the scrutiny was really unfair. 506 00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I never I never got that either, because 507 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:24,600 Speaker 1: I felt like, she wants to go to college. I mean, 508 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna say this before, I you know, I 509 00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,280 Speaker 1: knew what I wanted to do eventually before before college. 510 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,760 Speaker 1: And you know, I chose to go to s m 511 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: U in Dallas because at the time I felt like 512 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 1: it was the best theater training program in the country 513 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: that was not like, uh a Juilliard, Like I wanted 514 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: a university experience that was something that was really important 515 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: to me. It was sort of the same thing. I 516 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: could have gone to Juilliard or Carnegie Melloner, you know, 517 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: some of those smaller places, or just not gone to school. 518 00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: But for me, and I feel like it sounds like 519 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: it's the same from you. I've certainly seen images. My 520 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 1: images weren't being paraded around on every broadcast. I had fun, 521 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: I enjoyed the college experience, and that decision was ultimately 522 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: really really good for me. Yeah, no, it was. It 523 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,239 Speaker 1: was the best decision I ever made. I remember, and 524 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: I give a lot of kudos to Meg Mallon, who's 525 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: an LPG at Hall of Famer, and I remember replying 526 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: with her. You know, she was like my second mom 527 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: on tour, and I just was like, you know, I'm 528 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: I'm turning pro, but I also really want to go 529 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,479 Speaker 1: to college. I was like, do I have to choose 530 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,040 Speaker 1: between one or the other. And she's like, why do 531 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: you have to choose? You can, Why don't you just 532 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: do both? You want to do both? Do both, it's 533 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: your life. And I was like, okay, Like it makes 534 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: a lot of sense because you know, at one point 535 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: there was a lot of doubt in my head if 536 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: I could do both. But I'm like, again my life motto, 537 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: what's the worst that can happen? Exactly, what's the worst 538 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: that can happen? Yeah, let's just try it out. Let's 539 00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: try I fail, well, but you did it. Also, I 540 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: do want to ask you this in terms of your 541 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: support at that time. You know, when you're taking the 542 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,680 Speaker 1: time off and you're going to participate in outside tournaments, 543 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 1: who's going with you? Who's who your parents? Your parents 544 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: are with you through college? Yeah? If they Yeah, they 545 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,560 Speaker 1: travel with me to tournaments. And it was it was 546 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: great because I didn't have a tutor and my dad 547 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 1: was a professor, so I would make him help me 548 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: with my homework. That's amazing, that's amazing. Yeah, so you 549 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: had you had support when you were on the road. 550 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 1: Were they still living in Hawaii or did they move 551 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: to California? Um, they moved to California. They did there 552 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: between Florida and California. I also got a dog as 553 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 1: well too. In the middle of college. Again, I was like, 554 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,720 Speaker 1: what's the worst that can happen? Oh my gosh. So yeah, 555 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: now it's like my parents, my dog, and we're just 556 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: this big traveling circus. Oh my gosh. Um, after you 557 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: graduate college in you win the US Women's Open, talk 558 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: to me a little bit about that. Well one at 559 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 1: an iconic course, Pinehurst number two. Talk to me a 560 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: little bit about that experience for you and what it 561 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: meant to you to win that tournament that had been 562 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: very important for you for so long. Yeah. You know 563 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 1: when I talk about childhood lifelong dreams when in the 564 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: US Open was definitely one of them. And two thousand 565 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: fourteen set up with such a cool, unique event because 566 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: we were back to back with the men. The men 567 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: played the week before and then we played the same 568 00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: golf course a week later. Yeah, and Honor say, I 569 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: contribute a lot of my win because we followed the men, 570 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,200 Speaker 1: and I um followed the last group Ricky and Martin 571 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: Khimer on the last day on Sunday, And it was 572 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 1: funny because I didn't see a lot of other golfers 573 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: walking around, I'm like, why why didn't you as like 574 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: a free preview, um, And it was like me and 575 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 1: Jessica Corner that we were watching all around and I 576 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: saw Martin Khimer just shoot lights out, so you know, 577 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: before I get there, I'm super scared of Pine his 578 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: number two because everyone's talking about how it is the 579 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 1: hardest golf course ever. Winning scores can be like ted 580 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: over pars andthing like that. I see Martin Khimer shoot 581 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 1: you know, a lot under par, and he may He's 582 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,439 Speaker 1: making the golf course looks so easy. So from then on, 583 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: I have a complete different attitude going to the week. 584 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, he did this, I can do this. 585 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh it's making the game a lot easier. And another 586 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: fun fact is, you know, I was unclose to Ricky 587 00:34:50,719 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: Fowler and he I asked him for his yardage book, 588 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: so it was like cheating on a test because he 589 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,439 Speaker 1: wrote down pretty much every break on the green, we're 590 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: not to go where to miss it on this pin 591 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: And we basically had the same pins and the men 592 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: so um, it was a really cool experience, especially to 593 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: win there you had the same pins all like all 594 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: four days, like Thursday, Friday, Sturday didn't. Yeah, it was 595 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:22,760 Speaker 1: pretty much the same. Wow, that's crazy, that's so awesome. 596 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: I remember. And of course again spoiler alert, why do 597 00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: I keep think spoiler alert, we didn't know each other 598 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: at the time. I remember watching you in that event 599 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: and rooting for you so hard. I don't I can't 600 00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 1: even explain it. I don't. But there was something for 601 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: me about, you know, having seen you for so long, knowing, 602 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: not really understanding, but intellect really knowing what you had 603 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 1: to have gone through for all of those years. Um, 604 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 1: and to see you they're doing it was It's one 605 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: of my favorite memories watching golf of of all. No 606 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: for real, um dagger weighing the Masters a couple of 607 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: years ago, that might have surpassed it, that might have 608 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: surpassed it. There have been, but there have been a few, 609 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: but that no, for real. I, UM, you know we're 610 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: not we're not a golf program here, but I do 611 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: want to ask you, um about the evolution you know, 612 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,840 Speaker 1: at that time of of your your putting stance, so 613 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:53,719 Speaker 1: what you call it, you're putting putting stance tabletop that's right. 614 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 1: For those of you who are not familiar, I mean 615 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 1: she went to a nine degree angle when she was 616 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: putting at that time. So what wow? What was explained 617 00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: to me? The reason? And then I'll just do it 618 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: if you if you can give me a compelling reason 619 00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: right now, I'll start tomorrow. I'll give you two words. 620 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: And that's all I need to say. Putting yips? Putting yips? 621 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: Was it? Oh? I had the yips. I had the yips, Dad, 622 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 1: And I was so uncomfortable over the ball. I mean 623 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: I was just like, the ball looks so tiny, the 624 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,279 Speaker 1: whole looks so tiny. And it was funny. So the 625 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: year before UM, at the last tournament of the year, 626 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 1: the Tour Championship, I'm hitting the ball great, putting awfully. 627 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: As as that year UM, and I think I was 628 00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,400 Speaker 1: playing with a really short player, someone who was like 629 00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:50,520 Speaker 1: five ft tall, and obviously they're making everything and I'm 630 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,960 Speaker 1: missing everything. And I'm like, you know what, you know 631 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,760 Speaker 1: what I figured out why I'm missing all my putts. 632 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: I'm too tall. This is from the ball. Yeah, I'm 633 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: too far away from the ball. There are five feet tall, 634 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: there's so much closer to the ball. That's why they 635 00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,640 Speaker 1: pretty well. So then in the middle of the round, 636 00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,160 Speaker 1: obviously there's no mirrors on the golf course. I start 637 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,160 Speaker 1: to bend lower to the ball, I start making everything. 638 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 1: I'm just like, I feel so great over the golf ball. 639 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: The ball looks bigger, the whole looks bigger. I'm one 640 00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: with the ball because I'm closer to the wall. And 641 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: then after the round, reporters are asking me questions about 642 00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:24,759 Speaker 1: my new punting steps, and like, yeah, I'm just a 643 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,439 Speaker 1: little lower to the ball, Like what's the big deal? 644 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,319 Speaker 1: And I see a picture of myself. I'm like, oh, 645 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 1: I understand why I look funny, But it worked. I 646 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 1: felt comfortable. I didn't have the US anymore, and that's 647 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:38,600 Speaker 1: all I cared about. How long did how long did 648 00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 1: you continue to put that way? I think I putted 649 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: that way. Um, I mean I gradually start as the 650 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,440 Speaker 1: more comfortable effect over the putts that I started gradually 651 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: coming up a little bit. I mean I would say 652 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:55,280 Speaker 1: like two years or so, maybe, okay, I mean degrees. 653 00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: It was yeah, yeah, visually shocking. It was fishually shocking. 654 00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 1: I love that you played with someone short, that you 655 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: attribute that to playing with someone short and thinking, well, there, 656 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: they can see the ball so much clearer because they're 657 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: closer to it. Yeah, I I love that. Yeah, well 658 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: it was I mean, it was iconic. It just felt 659 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I mean I joked about the 660 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,200 Speaker 1: Tiger thing before. It sort of felt like what needed 661 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: to happen. And as you brought up well one in 662 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,840 Speaker 1: a special place at Pinehurst, number two two in the 663 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: sort of unique setting with the men there as well, 664 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,719 Speaker 1: and I feel like, I mean, the US Open in 665 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 1: golf always gets attention. I feel like there was extra 666 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: that year because of that. The opportunity to to see 667 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:54,040 Speaker 1: a course so many times. Of course, as you you know, 668 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:59,480 Speaker 1: that's the greatest moment for you on a golf course. Yeah, 669 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,919 Speaker 1: for sure. Um, I mean the worst moment probably came 670 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 1: from when I was looking for my golf all the 671 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: bush on sixteen. I was going to bring that up 672 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,480 Speaker 1: and I didn't know. I didn't know if there would 673 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: still be PTSD talk. People take people through that so 674 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 1: so pine Pinehurst. One of the reasons that it makes 675 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: it so difficult is if you miss the fairway, it 676 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,120 Speaker 1: doesn't go out abound. There are these little bushes where 677 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: a place I played golf at a lot at Wilshire 678 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: Country Club kind of adopted this same diabolical craziness. I 679 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 1: bring it up because the women play there now, have 680 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,799 Speaker 1: a tour event there now, So talk us through sixteen 681 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:48,240 Speaker 1: final round leading the US Open, you hit your ball 682 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 1: and what happens? So UM to paint the picture. I 683 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: start the day with four shot lead, and Stacy Lewis 684 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: is having a great day, so she's making up ground. 685 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: And now I t up on sick team with you know, 686 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,000 Speaker 1: three holes to play with a three shot lead, so 687 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: pretty feeling pretty comfortable. I want to play conservative. Um 688 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: writ my ball into the fairway bunker and I should 689 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 1: have played conservative, but from then on I was like, oh, 690 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna hit a hybrid out of the bunker, and 691 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: trying to get on the green, I basically shank it 692 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,240 Speaker 1: out of the bunker. And now I'm in this bush 693 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: that you mentioned before and we can't find the ball. 694 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: Everyone's looking for the ball, the real officials looking for 695 00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: the ball, and you and golf you only have five 696 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,719 Speaker 1: minutes look for a golf ball. That's it. And now 697 00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:35,400 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's about that time, and I 698 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: can feel Stacy Lewis coming on the range getting prepared 699 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,640 Speaker 1: for a playoff now because I'm gonna position where I'm 700 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 1: going to make either a double bogie or a triple bogie, 701 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,800 Speaker 1: and you know, now I won't have a lead. And 702 00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,560 Speaker 1: thankfully the rural officials, I think, with like three seconds left, 703 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:54,080 Speaker 1: finds a golf ball. I hit it out. I have 704 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 1: like a six quarter five or six quarter for double bogeye, 705 00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: And now I'm just like super nervous. And I think 706 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,920 Speaker 1: it was that moment that I'm the most proud of, 707 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 1: not the birdie afterwards, but that moment where I was 708 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,720 Speaker 1: just so nervous. It was like a right to left 709 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: uphill put um and for double bogey, and um, really 710 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: proud that I made it and kind of set the 711 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 1: next two holes up. Yeah, it was. It was crazy. 712 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 1: It was like Rory with the ball in the tree thing. 713 00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,680 Speaker 1: That's what That was the only other thing that reminded 714 00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:45,400 Speaker 1: me of m Has it been difficult for you to 715 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 1: say goodbye to golf these last few years? And why 716 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: was that? Was it? The injuries? Yeah? So, Um, I 717 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,520 Speaker 1: actually gone into a car accident two thousand sixteen where 718 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: it really messed up by neck. I actually had like 719 00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:00,919 Speaker 1: a little fracture, I had hern age ship So I've 720 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: had a lot of cortisol injections and you know, stuff 721 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,919 Speaker 1: done to my neck. Ended up having to get hand 722 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: surgery because of that, and my shoulder was messed up. 723 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,280 Speaker 1: I have like nerve issues, and you know, after having 724 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 1: my daughter, I just never wanted to get to a 725 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,600 Speaker 1: point where I couldn't play golf with her or hang 726 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: out with her or lift her up, because I was 727 00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,880 Speaker 1: really scared of that. But after having her, you know, 728 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,360 Speaker 1: I really wanted to play on tour and you know, 729 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: show her that mom plays golf. Um. So it was 730 00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: really hard to make the decision. It took me a 731 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,240 Speaker 1: really long time to make it. But I'm at completely 732 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: at peace right now because I love being able to 733 00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: spend almost every day with her. And I still travel 734 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: a little bit here and there for work, but you know, 735 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: it's a different type of travel than when you're on tour. UM. 736 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: I think the biggest decision, the fact that that was 737 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: that was made was I was gone for two months 738 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,439 Speaker 1: and I brought her and my husband was traveling as well, 739 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:57,319 Speaker 1: so he couldn't see her for two months, and she 740 00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: was really young at that point, and you know, when 741 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,920 Speaker 1: you're going by months, two months is a really big, 742 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,799 Speaker 1: you know step. They're doing new things, you know and 743 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,640 Speaker 1: all that, and I just never I just didn't feel 744 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: comfortable with that. But I felt like it was really 745 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: unfair that either I couldn't see her for a month 746 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: at a time or my husband couldn't see her for 747 00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: a month at a time. So it was a very 748 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,120 Speaker 1: personal decision for me and my family. But I feel 749 00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 1: at peace with it now and definitely was going through 750 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: a little bit of an identity crisis moment because I 751 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:28,520 Speaker 1: felt like I was like, what am I now? But 752 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 1: I'm going through it. I think I've met the other 753 00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: side of it now. Did you play your final professional 754 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 1: round of golf with me? Uh? No, I did not, 755 00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: damn it, because it was close though it was very 756 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 1: close that I just played the US Open after that, 757 00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,640 Speaker 1: I just played one more tournament. So yeah, I thought 758 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 1: you had. I thought you had. I remember you're talking 759 00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 1: to me that day about, you know, feeling like you 760 00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,919 Speaker 1: were you were done, but you know, the US Open 761 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: comes calling and you're going to go back, and damn it, 762 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,680 Speaker 1: that would have been such a cool feather in my cap. 763 00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: Do you make the put on eighteen? And that was 764 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,879 Speaker 1: my set off. I make the pot on eighteen, and 765 00:45:12,920 --> 00:45:16,600 Speaker 1: You're like, guess what this guy does that I can't 766 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:20,399 Speaker 1: play anymore. We're done, We're done. I'm hanging it. I'm 767 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,880 Speaker 1: hanging it up. You spoke a little bit about your 768 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:28,959 Speaker 1: injuries there. You were very guarded, You were very Bill 769 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:34,359 Speaker 1: Belichick in about your injuries while you were playing. Why 770 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,200 Speaker 1: Why was that, I don't know. I think it was 771 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 1: just part ego, part I didn't want people to know, 772 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: part I didn't know what was exactly going on. I 773 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,920 Speaker 1: think that was the last one, I think with the 774 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,960 Speaker 1: biggest part, because when I was going through my injuries, 775 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,640 Speaker 1: they were never really clear. I mean, some of them 776 00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: were very clear cut, but the first one that I had, 777 00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: you know, it was ever changing. So I never wanted 778 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,240 Speaker 1: to announce one thing and then have it be changed 779 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,800 Speaker 1: again and again. But a lot of times I was 780 00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,480 Speaker 1: just like, I don't know, I was I was ignoring 781 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: the fact that I was injured, which was very stupid, 782 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 1: because you can't ignore something like that. And I think 783 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: it made my injuries go on longer because I just 784 00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:16,799 Speaker 1: didn't face it head on. I kind of ignored it 785 00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,600 Speaker 1: for a little bit um but just later on just 786 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: realized that there's nothing to be ashamed of, you know, 787 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: you get injured, Athletes get injured. That's just a part 788 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 1: of life. And um, I think that's when I just 789 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,480 Speaker 1: started to be a little bit more at peace with 790 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 1: it myself internally, because I did go through a lot 791 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 1: of injuries, which was really hard for me mentally and emotionally. 792 00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,080 Speaker 1: But I just started to realize it's part of life. Yeah, 793 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 1: it no, it is, I mean, and golf is really 794 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,839 Speaker 1: difficult on your body. I mean, I'm so such a 795 00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,839 Speaker 1: genius for thinking of that. Actually, no one's ever said 796 00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:59,200 Speaker 1: that before. It but it really, you know, it really 797 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 1: is risks. As you mentioned, back legs hips, so many things, 798 00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:08,560 Speaker 1: and especially when you've got a tabletop putting dance. This 799 00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:13,480 Speaker 1: is not this is not easy. But I yeah, I 800 00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:19,719 Speaker 1: so admire you for I mean, you may have been 801 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:23,080 Speaker 1: guarded about injuries, but I felt like you were always 802 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:29,280 Speaker 1: very open and accommodating to the people around you and 803 00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,719 Speaker 1: to your fans, and in a lot of ways, to 804 00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:36,919 Speaker 1: the media. I felt like you gave them probably more 805 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,560 Speaker 1: attention than they deserved at times. But I really admire 806 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:45,399 Speaker 1: the way that you handled yourself. Oh, thank you. I mean, 807 00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,920 Speaker 1: the way I looked at it was that the reporters 808 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,359 Speaker 1: are just trying to do their jobs as well. You know, 809 00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,040 Speaker 1: I was a communication major. Actually had to write some 810 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: articles and interview some people as well, and you had 811 00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:00,120 Speaker 1: to have some uncomfortable interviews, and I just at that 812 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 1: point is realized that they're just trying to do their 813 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: jobs as best they could. You know, I respect the 814 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,080 Speaker 1: media and you know what they're trying to accomplish. At times, 815 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,360 Speaker 1: you know, hurtful things were said and done, but you 816 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,800 Speaker 1: just kind of have to not take it too personally, 817 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,480 Speaker 1: I guess, and realize that it's all of you know, 818 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: professional relationship. Yeah, you had a dream to go to Stanford. 819 00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:25,920 Speaker 1: You had a dream to become a professional athlete. You 820 00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:33,279 Speaker 1: also changed women's golf and brought women's golf into the 821 00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:37,800 Speaker 1: spotlight at a time where women's golf was not getting 822 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: very much attention. I mean it's been said more times, 823 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,240 Speaker 1: it's almost a cliche now that you were the Tiger 824 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,080 Speaker 1: Woods of of women's golf and brought all of that attention. 825 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 1: There was that ever a conscious thought in your mind 826 00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:57,480 Speaker 1: or was this something that happened to you as opposed 827 00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,319 Speaker 1: to you feel like you driving that Yeah, I was 828 00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: never a conscious thought for me. Um, I think it 829 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:08,120 Speaker 1: is a conscious thought. Now I'm doing everything I can 830 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,000 Speaker 1: to bring more attention to the l p g A 831 00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,240 Speaker 1: and try to make our tour a bigger and better place. Um, 832 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,480 Speaker 1: you know, but back in the day, definitely wasn't a 833 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,960 Speaker 1: conscious decision. Yeah, And I mean, well, let me ask 834 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: you this, also, at what point were you aware that 835 00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,200 Speaker 1: this was happening. I don't think I was ever really aware. 836 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: I'm kind of belief at times. Us Come on, I 837 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: don't know, I just I don't know. I just felt like, I, 838 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,399 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just trying to win out there. 839 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 1: I felt like there were so many better players and 840 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:41,480 Speaker 1: me out there. Um and you know, so many different 841 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,080 Speaker 1: and better goats. As you might say, it was never 842 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: you know, number one in the world. I felt like, 843 00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:48,640 Speaker 1: you know, I just felt like I never really lived 844 00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,759 Speaker 1: up to people's expectations. So I never thought of myself 845 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:56,120 Speaker 1: as like someone that I guess changed the women's games 846 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: that in my mind there were so many other women 847 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:03,960 Speaker 1: that did. But mean, I think now after retiring, um, 848 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, it is a very conscious decision for me 849 00:50:06,920 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: to know that I have a platform and that you know, 850 00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 1: I can use it to help future female athletes. Yeah, 851 00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,360 Speaker 1: it's interesting hearing you talk. And I have gotten to 852 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 1: know Anka Sore and Stamp quite a bit. She lives 853 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: up in Tahoe. I obviously participated in the event up there, 854 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: and I've gotten to and she's played up there and 855 00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 1: and at the event in Orlando. Amazingly generous, nice person, 856 00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: always has been to me. But there was something about you, 857 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,760 Speaker 1: and I guess part of it was we started following 858 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: you so early, and and that just makes a person 859 00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: root for that person and then want to follow that person. 860 00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:58,560 Speaker 1: That just felt different. It felt different with you, and 861 00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:00,919 Speaker 1: I think that's I think, I mean, I'm sure that's 862 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: in part where the tiger thing comes in as well. 863 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: He started so young and we started becoming aware of 864 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,239 Speaker 1: him so so young. But yeah, it's it's an amazing thing. 865 00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:18,160 Speaker 1: And for those of you who haven't been out to 866 00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: an LPGA event, it's crazy. I mean, it's truly crazy. 867 00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:28,439 Speaker 1: I think the distance control is quite frankly better than 868 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,759 Speaker 1: the p g A tour. I mean, what when I 869 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,719 Speaker 1: the people I've played with. I played with Lydia Co 870 00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,120 Speaker 1: one time. I think I told you this last year. 871 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:38,839 Speaker 1: I played with her one time in Scottsdale for an 872 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,960 Speaker 1: event and we were through. We were just farting around 873 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 1: and we were through thirteen holes and I suddenly started 874 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: doing the math, which is difficult for me, and I 875 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,640 Speaker 1: was like, she's gonna shoot fifty nine today, She's gonna 876 00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 1: shoot She's gonna shoot fifty nine. Just and it was 877 00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: like all of the shots so just close, just in, 878 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: not putting, not She didn't need a tabletop. She just 879 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,799 Speaker 1: hit it to four ft and knocked it in. It 880 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 1: was It was crazy and I feel that way so 881 00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: much there, the distance control, on the approaches to the 882 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:18,720 Speaker 1: green on on the LPGA tour. It's so fun to watch, 883 00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,560 Speaker 1: for sure. Yeah, the talent out there is unbelievable. Do 884 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 1: you want to be an actor? I was actually telling 885 00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:27,200 Speaker 1: my agent. I was like, I want to be that 886 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:30,200 Speaker 1: random person that's in all these random movies as an 887 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,959 Speaker 1: extra and like, oh my god, schel in a movie. 888 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:38,200 Speaker 1: It was like hello, But yeah, that's so, that's what 889 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: Because you did Hawaii five. Oh yeah, I hadn't blast 890 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,920 Speaker 1: you did. I feel like a lot of times athletes 891 00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 1: get bored, like they get they get bored of that 892 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,000 Speaker 1: of that work. Yeah, you know, it's funny because I 893 00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: think athletes are kind of all adrenaline junkies. UM. And 894 00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,399 Speaker 1: it's funny because after transitioning, I haven't you know, felt 895 00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 1: that adrenal. The only time I feel that greneraline is 896 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 1: doing live TV or doing a live you know show 897 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,279 Speaker 1: or something like that. Um. But acting in front of 898 00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,840 Speaker 1: a camera, it's kind of like one of It's like 899 00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 1: well as most we have to perform, you know. So 900 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:15,680 Speaker 1: I feel like actors and athletes are very similar. Oh 901 00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,759 Speaker 1: my god, wait a minute, team, can you please get that? 902 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 1: Can we cut that sentence right there and send just 903 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: that to me? And I'm going to use that. I 904 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:27,280 Speaker 1: don't know, it's my ring tone that might be weird 905 00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: as a motivational Oh my alarm clock in the morning, 906 00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,560 Speaker 1: That's what I'm going to use it. Athletes and actors 907 00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:39,720 Speaker 1: are very similar. Yeah, I think so, Oh god, I 908 00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 1: love that. I uh well, I wish you luck with that. 909 00:53:44,239 --> 00:53:47,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you're you say you're going through an identity crisis. 910 00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: You're you're you're doing a hell of a lot already. 911 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: You're focusing your business on on women and my minority 912 00:53:57,520 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: owned businesses. Is this something you have always wanted to do? 913 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: Is this conscious? Does this has to have to do? 914 00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:09,840 Speaker 1: With your impact on the LPGA, etcetera. Yeah, for sure. 915 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, I want to help bring you know, more 916 00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,080 Speaker 1: access into the game, but also into the venture side, 917 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 1: you know, get more give more access to women and 918 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: minority owned founders, and yeah, hosting LPGA VT next year 919 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:27,320 Speaker 1: as well, which I'm super excited about. But kind of 920 00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: my mission to a lot of things that I'm doing 921 00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: is I want to help bring the more access to 922 00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,960 Speaker 1: the game, help bring more diversity into the game, and 923 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,560 Speaker 1: you hopefully break down barriers. So kind of everything I 924 00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: do kind of has that thesis, right. I was told 925 00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:47,040 Speaker 1: one of the companies that you've invested in is sports 926 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: Box AI. Yeah. Yeah, so talk to me a little 927 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:56,799 Speaker 1: bit about this. Sounds fascinating to me, one from gaming perspective, 928 00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: but two actually could be helped full for golfers as well. 929 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:04,600 Speaker 1: Talk to me about it. Yeah, it's perfect. AI is 930 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: a really cool concept. Before, when you had to get 931 00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: three D data for a golf swing, it was very 932 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,239 Speaker 1: expensive to get because you have to put all those 933 00:55:13,239 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 1: white dots in your body. The technology is very expensive, 934 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,280 Speaker 1: so only a few teachers, you know, have that, which 935 00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: means only a few students get to have access to 936 00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,840 Speaker 1: it and those students who usually have to pay a 937 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: lot of money, they kind of going back to, you know, 938 00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: getting more access into golf with four stocks AI. All 939 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,920 Speaker 1: you need is your phone and place it in front 940 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: of you and take a video of you swinging a 941 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: golf club and then the phone. Yeah, it makes a 942 00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: two D video into a three D video than which 943 00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:46,920 Speaker 1: use the eight different angles you can see it from, 944 00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,120 Speaker 1: and it gives you all the very accurate um like 945 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: shoulder turned rotation numbers, tilt sway, all of that. You know, 946 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,920 Speaker 1: So teachers, any teacher can now have access to it 947 00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:02,480 Speaker 1: at a very low pricing point versus you know, you 948 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,600 Speaker 1: have to buy like a vest before or buy all 949 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,400 Speaker 1: this sort of technology. Not just you just have your 950 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:09,680 Speaker 1: iPhones an app and they just recently came out with 951 00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,400 Speaker 1: a use your Friendly version UM so that you and 952 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,640 Speaker 1: me can use it. Because let's be honest, even I 953 00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: when I look at three numbers, I'm like, I have 954 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,919 Speaker 1: no idea what I'm looking at. UM. So they've kind 955 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: of created this like workout program esque for golf. It's 956 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: like Peloton for golf, where you know you have, okay, 957 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,440 Speaker 1: I want to fix my slice, so you click on 958 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,720 Speaker 1: that practice plan and it gives you, you know, like, okay, 959 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,239 Speaker 1: thirty minutes on the range, here are ten drills that 960 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,479 Speaker 1: you need to do and it works well. It talks 961 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,400 Speaker 1: you through it. Yeah, and then you can also in 962 00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:44,560 Speaker 1: the beginning of the lesson, middle, and then the end, 963 00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,880 Speaker 1: you can also film yourself. He's in the three D 964 00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,239 Speaker 1: data to see exactly where you are. Instead of being like, oh, yeah, 965 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,799 Speaker 1: I think I'm rotating my shoulders a little bit more, 966 00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: this gives you the actual data. It's very clear that 967 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,839 Speaker 1: one you really know what you're talking about in terms 968 00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 1: of what this company does, and too that you think 969 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: it's cool I do as well that I can't even 970 00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,919 Speaker 1: I mean, I've done the Dots thing. The Dots thing 971 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: is a is a production. But to be able to 972 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,720 Speaker 1: do this and do a session, do a range session, 973 00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:21,640 Speaker 1: and mid session be able to kind of recalibrate, that's 974 00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: very cool. Yeah, you have to try it out. I'll 975 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,600 Speaker 1: send you a code, all right, send me, send me 976 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,680 Speaker 1: a coach. Can you send me a new phone too, 977 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,080 Speaker 1: because here's the crazy thing. Your phone can do all 978 00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,240 Speaker 1: these things. But yeah, I'm mad at the phone people. Now. 979 00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: It's it's you know what it is it's exactly two 980 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,720 Speaker 1: years now. My phone are messed up, exactly two years. 981 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,920 Speaker 1: We can analyze me in three D and then it's 982 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,600 Speaker 1: gonna die in two years. I am so bitter about it. 983 00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm so aggravated on my phone. Um, you started a 984 00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:03,960 Speaker 1: new podcast, golf mostly with your old bestie Hollie led Better. 985 00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: Talk to me a little bit about well one, how 986 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,880 Speaker 1: it's going into. What was your your idea about starting it? Yeah, 987 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: so Hallie and I've always wanted to start it. We 988 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,360 Speaker 1: never lived in the same city before, so now both 989 00:58:15,400 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: of them in l A. It was a really cool 990 00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,520 Speaker 1: opportunity to, um, you know, do more media content together podcast. 991 00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:23,600 Speaker 1: Hopefully it is just the beginning. We want to do YouTube, 992 00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:25,920 Speaker 1: we want to do live shows. Um, we want to 993 00:58:25,920 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: do all of it. We want to do get togethers. 994 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:30,880 Speaker 1: But mainly we just want to show people the fun 995 00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,200 Speaker 1: side of golf. We it's called golf. Mostly we talk 996 00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: about golf maybe of the time. That's not mostly, that's 997 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,040 Speaker 1: not mostly. I know sometimes should be golf, sometimes Quali 998 00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,160 Speaker 1: occasionally it sounds like, yeah, golf occasionally, but yeah, I 999 00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:50,240 Speaker 1: mean we're both golfers, so I think inherently it is 1000 00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:52,880 Speaker 1: a golf show. Um, but it's been really fun to 1001 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,840 Speaker 1: talk to our guests, our friends who you know don't 1002 00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 1: play a lot of golf, and also ask them what 1003 00:58:58,040 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: the stigma of golf is and how it's you know, 1004 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: a changing or how it can change. So it's really 1005 00:59:04,360 --> 00:59:06,040 Speaker 1: fun to get into that. And you know, all the 1006 00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,680 Speaker 1: interviewes that we do, um, you know, it's fun to 1007 00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:11,200 Speaker 1: get to know another side of them. Like with Tony, 1008 00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:14,280 Speaker 1: we had both Tony and his wife come on and 1009 00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,200 Speaker 1: it's really cool to hear Lena's side of things and 1010 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,960 Speaker 1: you know, her stories of travel with the kids and um, 1011 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,640 Speaker 1: there's things that you know, Tony doesn't really get to 1012 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,760 Speaker 1: talk about a lot, and we really want to deep 1013 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:28,440 Speaker 1: dive and the things that you don't really see. So 1014 00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 1: it's it's been a lot of fun. We record it's 1015 00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 1: even one and um we're working on season two right now. 1016 00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:36,960 Speaker 1: But it's been a lot of fun. Honestly, if no 1017 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: one listened to it, Hallie and I are having so 1018 00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,000 Speaker 1: much fun doing it that that's all worth it to us. 1019 00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Congratulations, you are easy to root for. I 1020 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: wish you great success moving forward. I appreciate you coming 1021 00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: and talking to me, and quite frankly, your candidate answers, 1022 00:59:57,880 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I'm gonna leave you 1023 00:59:59,880 --> 01:00:02,720 Speaker 1: with this. People ask me all the time why I 1024 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:10,960 Speaker 1: play golf, and for me, it brings me back to win. 1025 01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 1: And this is gonna sound like a joke, but it 1026 01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:17,200 Speaker 1: brings me back to when I was an athlete as 1027 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,919 Speaker 1: a kid, competing and for me, the competition was the thing. 1028 01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,000 Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter how good you are or not. 1029 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: There's a handicap system that enables you, as you said before, 1030 01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: to play with anybody at any time and compete. And 1031 01:00:35,560 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 1: for me, the reason I love golf I've never talked 1032 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,520 Speaker 1: about this on this program before, is that for me, 1033 01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:45,720 Speaker 1: it's a four hours that I put my phone away 1034 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:50,920 Speaker 1: and I'm concentrating on one thing and one thing only, 1035 01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: which is to get this stupid little ball into this hole. 1036 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,960 Speaker 1: And that's it. That's all, it's it's it's a very 1037 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 1: simple game when you boil it down to just to 1038 01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:05,760 Speaker 1: just that, and it makes everything go away. And I 1039 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,920 Speaker 1: think it brings me back to when I used to 1040 01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: play basketball and baseball and all these other sports when 1041 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:13,480 Speaker 1: I was a kid and and compete and I think, 1042 01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:19,240 Speaker 1: dare I say that part of the legend, the aura, 1043 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:24,040 Speaker 1: the existence of Michelle we is exactly that as well, 1044 01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,120 Speaker 1: is taking us back to when we were kids, to 1045 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:32,680 Speaker 1: watching you as a kid and beginning to root for 1046 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:38,200 Speaker 1: you and wanting you to make it like almost like 1047 01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,680 Speaker 1: as a as a replacement for those of us who 1048 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: chose different paths. Is like, look at that kid, I 1049 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:50,400 Speaker 1: want I want her to make it. And you seem 1050 01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: likable and all of those things as well, but but 1051 01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:58,640 Speaker 1: really that and and look, getting to know you a 1052 01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 1: little bit, you you you don't disappoint. So good luck 1053 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:08,640 Speaker 1: to you. Good luck to you and your husband's warriors, 1054 01:02:09,640 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 1: um go dubs the rest of the year. And uh yeah, 1055 01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:18,320 Speaker 1: I hope to see you out at the golf course soon. Yeah, 1056 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:35,360 Speaker 1: which definitely play. Yeah. Thank you so much, Michelle, Thank you, Michelle, 1057 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,479 Speaker 1: thank you so much for stopping by. I guess now 1058 01:02:40,080 --> 01:02:43,000 Speaker 1: the cat is out of the bag. I am a 1059 01:02:43,080 --> 01:02:46,000 Speaker 1: huge fan and so now thank you for the tip. 1060 01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 1: As another tall person myself, I am going to give 1061 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:53,480 Speaker 1: your putting stance a try, maybe this month at the 1062 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:58,320 Speaker 1: Hilton Grand Vacations Tournament of Champions, who knows, maybe this year. 1063 01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna win it. I'll let you know how it goes, listeners. 1064 01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: I will see you all again next week with another 1065 01:03:06,040 --> 01:03:10,919 Speaker 1: fantastic guest. Until then, I hope that the first week 1066 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:16,080 Speaker 1: of is off to a spectacular start, and to each 1067 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,080 Speaker 1: and every one of you, I want this year to 1068 01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:30,640 Speaker 1: be the best year ever. We'll see you soon. Off 1069 01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:34,440 Speaker 1: the Beat is hosted an executive produced by me Brian Baumgartner, 1070 01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 1: alongside our executive producer Langley. Our producers are Diego Tapia, 1071 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:44,000 Speaker 1: Liz Hayes, Hannah Harris, and Emily Carr. Our talent producer 1072 01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: is Ryan Papa Zachary, and our intern is Sammy Cats. 1073 01:03:48,520 --> 01:03:52,560 Speaker 1: Our theme song Bubble and Squeak performed by my great 1074 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,200 Speaker 1: friend Creed Breton, and the episode was mixed by Seth 1075 01:03:56,240 --> 01:04:00,040 Speaker 1: O Landscape, a