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Speaker 2: We want to get more athletic, more versatile, and have

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Speaker 3: You put Bellinger in center field, you put Judge in

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Speaker 4: Charlie M. It made me put you a head and

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll refrain because my first inclination was to finish

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Speaker 1: Need to either take serious action here, right, If Spencer

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Speaker 3: about Trevor Bauer.

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Speaker 7: Ft fam Arena Club is the modern way to collect

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Speaker 6: I ain't getting rid of my Bob Gibson autograph card.

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Speaker 6: This is one of the coolest things I've ever seen.

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Speaker 2: De Jail and Mayhew is almost our age at this point.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's it's it's over, man, It's it's just

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Speaker 2: let it go. And it's like the third.

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Speaker 1: Spring training in a row where his first psal activity.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, come on, guys, like.

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Speaker 3: For real, that's that's Oscar whether Oscar worthy asking I've

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Speaker 3: hurt my hands straight, Yeah, let me throw it out in,

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Speaker 3: we've been getting a lot of comments here and people

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Speaker 3: some people are like enough already, Trevor Bauer. He's out there,

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Speaker 3: he's offering to pitch for the minimum.

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Speaker 4: Look, he still throws ninety five ninety six.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I heard earlier about how we don't know.

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Speaker 3: There's teams that are right, and I don't know what

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Speaker 1: Like you know you had said earlier, like, listen, there's

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Speaker 1: Right now, George saw talent, I'm willing to overlook it.

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Speaker 1: If you're you're a change man. Hey, people kick me

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Speaker 2: We don't know if John Collo stands and elbows.

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Speaker 1: And if you're not go out and replace his bat,

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Speaker 1: You have to replace somebody in that bullpen, I mean,

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Speaker 2: Us we're gonna go with what we have. So if

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Speaker 1: Next we get Monty, that's our big three or Lefty, Lefty, Lefty.

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Speaker 3: You know, if the Yankee I tried and put myself well,

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Speaker 4: If the Yankee signed Trevor.

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Speaker 2: It's complicated. I was working things out.

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Speaker 3: If stuff comes out that, you know, he did some

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Speaker 3: Until it happens. Right, So I don't want the Yankees

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Speaker 3: I'm like, Hey, that's that's cal you know, I mean,

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Speaker 4: I combined Cashman and Hall there. Did you see that?

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Speaker 2: Cal?

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Speaker 4: Uh? That's now?

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Speaker 3: So if they if they signed Trevor Bauer, I would

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Speaker 1: Suspect in these moments, that's when we as as fans

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Speaker 1: as it's just people citizens, right, you know that are

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Speaker 1: a proponent of the criminal justice system. You do the crime,

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Speaker 1: that's the thing. If you're found not guilty and none

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Speaker 1: or someone a choosed him again. It's not my problem,

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Speaker 1: it's not my business. All I care about is the

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