WEBVTT - “I SLEEP WITH MY MOM”

0:00:02.920 --> 0:00:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Hey, what's up? Man?

0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.680
<v Speaker 2>Hey, hmm, I just got back from work.

0:00:06.800 --> 0:00:07.600
<v Speaker 1>What do you do for work?

0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:10.799
<v Speaker 2>I basically sick. So you know how every school kid

0:00:10.840 --> 0:00:12.480
<v Speaker 2>has a chromebook? I fixed those.

0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh that's nice our kids do. Do you ever see

0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.480
<v Speaker 1>like kids like going on porn hub and ship?

0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean, of course I've never seen it myself because

0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:31.880
<v Speaker 2>I work, sorry, and this is a bit nervous. So

0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I work like in the back office where we just

0:00:34.520 --> 0:00:36.640
<v Speaker 2>get like a bunch of bunch of broken ship and

0:00:36.720 --> 0:00:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll see on the notes it'll say that the kid

0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.480
<v Speaker 2>was on a movie site where the kid was watching porn.

0:00:42.840 --> 0:00:45.920
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy. Do they get do you like, like, have

0:00:46.000 --> 0:00:50.640
<v Speaker 1>you ever like seen like like you check the history

0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:52.559
<v Speaker 1>of the chromebook and it's a bunch of porn? Like

0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:53.880
<v Speaker 1>do you ever rat the kid out?

0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Of course, Uh, it's kind of tempting, but I

0:00:59.560 --> 0:01:02.040
<v Speaker 2>don't really because I don't want to know what the

0:01:02.160 --> 0:01:04.760
<v Speaker 2>kid is watching. You know, that's weird.

0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:08.039
<v Speaker 1>That is weird. I agree with that. It's better to

0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of thing that you want to just

0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:16.960
<v Speaker 1>remove from your brain entirely and not deal with. Yeah,

0:01:17.040 --> 0:01:19.080
<v Speaker 1>A mod is am I saying that? Right?

0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:22.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Mod? I mean.

0:01:23.680 --> 0:01:27.399
<v Speaker 1>You said. Here's what you texted me. You said, my

0:01:27.480 --> 0:01:29.920
<v Speaker 1>name is a mod I'm twenty years old. I want

0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:34.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk about how I immigrated to America ten years

0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:38.280
<v Speaker 1>ago from Pakistan. And you also added this, You said,

0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I also still sleep with my mom parentheses. You added

0:01:43.640 --> 0:01:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this parentheses. You said parentheses not in a weird way?

0:01:48.480 --> 0:01:50.320
<v Speaker 1>What's up? Tell me?

0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:54.800
<v Speaker 2>More so, do you want to know about the immigration

0:01:54.920 --> 0:01:56.280
<v Speaker 2>part or the mom part?

0:01:56.920 --> 0:02:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Are they related in any way shape or for him?

0:02:02.160 --> 0:02:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I guess a little bit, because you know

0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:10.079
<v Speaker 2>how in Southeasian culture, families are like really close together. Sure,

0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:14.680
<v Speaker 2>yeah so, but that's not really the reason. I guess.

0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:21.440
<v Speaker 2>The reason is basically, my mom has schizophrenia, so she'll

0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:26.400
<v Speaker 2>have like involuntary movements and whatnot. So I do still

0:02:26.440 --> 0:02:31.160
<v Speaker 2>sleep with her on the same bed if you can imagine, Oh, so.

0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You sleep with her in the same bed, yeah, like

0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:37.720
<v Speaker 1>help her out with the queen in voluntary movements.

0:02:38.800 --> 0:02:41.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, it's not like crazy. She's basically a

0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:46.920
<v Speaker 2>normal person. But like sometimes I well, I don't know,

0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:51.440
<v Speaker 2>schizophrenia is really like unpredictable, so sometimes to randomly have

0:02:51.600 --> 0:02:54.720
<v Speaker 2>like moments. But overall she is just a regular person.

0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:57.880
<v Speaker 1>M do you sleep with in the same bed, like,

0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.800
<v Speaker 1>like to help her out in cases she needs help?

0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:06.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So I mean sometimes he will just like I

0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:09.679
<v Speaker 2>guess randomly started like swinging your hands on whatever hand.

0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:12.799
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, So that's why.

0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:18.120
<v Speaker 1>How often do you need to help her?

0:03:20.080 --> 0:03:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, as I said, it's mostly a normal person.

0:03:23.520 --> 0:03:26.240
<v Speaker 2>To be honest, that'll have to like once a month

0:03:26.360 --> 0:03:31.560
<v Speaker 2>or something, or if something like preggers are specifically, Do.

0:03:31.520 --> 0:03:33.320
<v Speaker 1>You sleep in the bed with her every night?

0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:37.360
<v Speaker 2>Every night? Do?

0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious? What's up with your dad? Is he not

0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:40.720
<v Speaker 1>around to help out?

0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:46.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, my dad sleeps. It's so it's a queen size

0:03:46.640 --> 0:03:49.720
<v Speaker 2>bed and then there's like a regular like a single

0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.120
<v Speaker 2>mattress right next to it, so I basically sleep in

0:03:53.240 --> 0:03:56.400
<v Speaker 2>between my mom and dad. Oh my god, it's so

0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:01.080
<v Speaker 2>weird to say that out loud now because I've never ever.

0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.760
<v Speaker 1>So wait, let me get this straight. I'm it's a

0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.280
<v Speaker 1>queen size bed. So you you there's a mattress by

0:04:09.440 --> 0:04:11.320
<v Speaker 1>the bed and you sleep on that, So you don't

0:04:11.320 --> 0:04:13.640
<v Speaker 1>actually don't sleep in the same bed as your mom.

0:04:14.120 --> 0:04:17.240
<v Speaker 1>You sleep on a mattress. But you said you sleep

0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:18.920
<v Speaker 1>on a mattress by the bed.

0:04:19.839 --> 0:04:23.000
<v Speaker 2>That's that's my dad. So I sleep in between my

0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:24.000
<v Speaker 2>mom and my dad.

0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:28.000
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there's a okay, so there's a mattress on

0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.360
<v Speaker 1>the floor next to the bed where your dad sleeps.

0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.719
<v Speaker 1>And then it's not on the floor, where is it.

0:04:37.120 --> 0:04:41.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, it's so we don't even have like a bed bed.

0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:43.279
<v Speaker 2>It's just like a frame. I don't know if you

0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.320
<v Speaker 2>know what I'm talking about, but it's a metal frame.

0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:49.600
<v Speaker 2>So we just put the mattress on that. So we're

0:04:49.600 --> 0:04:51.120
<v Speaker 2>all we're all on the same height.

0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:56.200
<v Speaker 1>So you put so you I'm still I'm gonna get

0:04:56.200 --> 0:05:01.120
<v Speaker 1>this floor planned, right. So you so you have basically

0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:03.360
<v Speaker 1>you push two beds together, is what I'm hearing.

0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly, Okay, all right.

0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:10.240
<v Speaker 1>You have two you have a queen sized bed and

0:05:10.360 --> 0:05:14.240
<v Speaker 1>another and a queen size mattress. You have there's two beds,

0:05:14.480 --> 0:05:17.040
<v Speaker 1>a mattress on a bed frame is a bed. So

0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:21.440
<v Speaker 1>you have two beds pushed together, and on one bed

0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:24.400
<v Speaker 1>your dad sleeps, and then in the and then in

0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.240
<v Speaker 1>the middle you sleep in the middle of your mom

0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and your dad.

0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.320
<v Speaker 2>Yes, exactly, Okay.

0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:38.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm curious. So first, first of all, uh, actually I

0:05:38.560 --> 0:05:41.919
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of questions about this ahead, why do

0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you Why do you sleep in the middle of your

0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:49.080
<v Speaker 1>parents instead of if your dad's there. I understand that, yeah,

0:05:49.200 --> 0:05:52.160
<v Speaker 1>that you're doing what you do. I understand that you're

0:05:52.200 --> 0:05:54.560
<v Speaker 1>sleeping with your mom to help her out, which I

0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.599
<v Speaker 1>think is very is very noble of you to do.

0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:02.159
<v Speaker 1>But why are you can your dad not help?

0:06:03.480 --> 0:06:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay? So my dad he basically works like a very

0:06:07.600 --> 0:06:10.719
<v Speaker 2>early morning job, so he makes up like at four am,

0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.160
<v Speaker 2>so and my mom obviously doesn't.

0:06:13.520 --> 0:06:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's why, Okay, do you does your mom need

0:06:20.000 --> 0:06:22.200
<v Speaker 1>help so much that you need to sleep in the

0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:23.120
<v Speaker 1>bed with her?

0:06:23.200 --> 0:06:23.279
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.760
<v Speaker 1>Are you not able to like be in like room?

0:06:25.880 --> 0:06:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Not?

0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Even to be honest, it's it's not even that, Like,

0:06:30.839 --> 0:06:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I'm just I'm ever since i've been

0:06:34.839 --> 0:06:37.279
<v Speaker 2>a kid, as I said, in South Asian family, we

0:06:37.360 --> 0:06:40.200
<v Speaker 2>do just I always slept with my parents, and then

0:06:40.200 --> 0:06:45.000
<v Speaker 2>when I grew up gradually, I guess I don't know why,

0:06:45.200 --> 0:06:48.000
<v Speaker 2>But I mean I have siblings that have their own rooms,

0:06:48.040 --> 0:06:50.680
<v Speaker 2>but I don't have a room, so I just kind

0:06:50.680 --> 0:06:53.040
<v Speaker 2>of sleep with my mom. That's all.

0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Now your siblings do they are they all in they

0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:00.279
<v Speaker 1>have the same room, they each have their own room

0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.640
<v Speaker 1>in the same house as you and your and your parents.

0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we have a three bed apartment. I have

0:07:05.600 --> 0:07:08.520
<v Speaker 2>two older brothers. They're like in their twenties as well,

0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:11.040
<v Speaker 2>but they're like late twenties. I literally just learned twenty

0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.960
<v Speaker 2>like a month ago, and I'm still I don't have

0:07:15.000 --> 0:07:16.760
<v Speaker 2>my own room yet. I guess we just have three

0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:19.960
<v Speaker 2>rooms only in this apartment. So my older siblings at

0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:21.640
<v Speaker 2>their own room and I'm sharing the room with my

0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.880
<v Speaker 2>mom and my dad.

0:07:25.920 --> 0:07:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Do you leave, Like, okay, let me ask you this. So,

0:07:32.120 --> 0:07:35.720
<v Speaker 1>so it sounds it sounds as though it would be

0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.640
<v Speaker 1>okay your mom. You it would be okay if you

0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:41.840
<v Speaker 1>were not sleeping in the same bed as your mom

0:07:42.000 --> 0:07:45.320
<v Speaker 1>in terms of your need to help her. But it's

0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:46.000
<v Speaker 1>just what you.

0:07:45.960 --> 0:07:46.920
<v Speaker 2>Could get done.

0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:49.760
<v Speaker 1>So I'm not I'm not like, I'm not. I'm just

0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:53.760
<v Speaker 1>trying to understand situations. But it sounds like it sounds

0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:57.200
<v Speaker 1>like it is not necessary to help your mom to

0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:58.960
<v Speaker 1>sleep in the bed with her, but you do it

0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:01.840
<v Speaker 1>because it's what you've always done.

0:08:03.280 --> 0:08:06.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess. So most like nine of the time, Yeah,

0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.000
<v Speaker 2>but there are, as I said, some days where her

0:08:09.040 --> 0:08:13.400
<v Speaker 2>schizophrenia will like spike. I guess some like specific things

0:08:13.440 --> 0:08:15.960
<v Speaker 2>trigger her, so then I will have to sleep with her.

0:08:16.720 --> 0:08:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay, but mostly you are right, So let's get into this. Okay. Now,

0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:27.440
<v Speaker 1>now that I understand the situation, how do you how

0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.320
<v Speaker 1>do you personally feel about the situation?

0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:36.760
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, I honestly don't even think about her

0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:40.120
<v Speaker 2>negatively because it's not, as I said, it's not really

0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:43.400
<v Speaker 2>in a weird way. I like, because I said, my

0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:47.160
<v Speaker 2>mom schizophrenia. So I have a very I guess special

0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:50.840
<v Speaker 2>relationship with her and I love her to death basically,

0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.120
<v Speaker 2>So I guess this is one of the ways that

0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I can show my appreciation for her, that every night

0:08:57.480 --> 0:08:59.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm there for her, you know, in case something triggers her.

0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:11.520
<v Speaker 1>Okay mmmm, and you're you're twenty right, yeah, okay, No, no, no, no, no, no,

0:09:11.520 --> 0:09:12.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I don't say that, but I don't say

0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:14.760
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God, I mean, I don't. I don't

0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:15.440
<v Speaker 1>say that with judgment.

0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.079
<v Speaker 2>I just don't, but I do. I don't blame you.

0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:19.880
<v Speaker 2>It is kind of weird that.

0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:22.320
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm making no judges about it.

0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:26.640
<v Speaker 1>But I want to understand. Do you do you do

0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.760
<v Speaker 1>you go to do you go to school? Do you work?

0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's totally before. I'm doing an internship actually at

0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:41.040
<v Speaker 2>the at the local public school where I fixed kids chromeebooks,

0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.440
<v Speaker 2>and I go to college full time.

0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.679
<v Speaker 1>Oh right, right, you totally. You told me all that,

0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:46.200
<v Speaker 1>and we talked about the port due.

0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm a normal guy outside of this.

0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:52.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm not. I'm not I'm not saying that you're I'm

0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:59.920
<v Speaker 1>not saying you're okay. So clearly, okay, so clearly, clearly, clearly,

0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.880
<v Speaker 1>and again I'm not saying anything about I'm not here.

0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying, oh this is weird, this is fucked up, whatever,

0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:09.040
<v Speaker 1>but clearly you you seem to be self conscious that

0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:09.400
<v Speaker 1>it is.

0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Of course, as as I told you, this was

0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.320
<v Speaker 2>literally the first time ever this has ever come out

0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.920
<v Speaker 2>of my mouth. It's always only been thought, Okay.

0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.400
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you have do you have like friends?

0:10:24.960 --> 0:10:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Of course, dude, I have I don't know, I have

0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:31.839
<v Speaker 2>college friends, I have work friends, high school friends that

0:10:31.880 --> 0:10:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I still talk to.

0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.079
<v Speaker 1>And you you've you this, You've kind of kept this

0:10:36.200 --> 0:10:38.320
<v Speaker 1>a secret from all of them.

0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:43.160
<v Speaker 2>Yep, yep, yep, why are you I don't know, we

0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:47.920
<v Speaker 2>never when we just never I guess it never comes

0:10:48.000 --> 0:10:50.680
<v Speaker 2>up the topic of like where we live and whatever.

0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:53.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that's true because I guess my I

0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:56.040
<v Speaker 1>guess my sleeping arrangements also don't really come up in

0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:57.680
<v Speaker 1>conversation that much with my friends.

0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:00.959
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go. And even I did, to be honest,

0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:02.520
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't I wouldn't share that.

0:11:04.520 --> 0:11:04.960
<v Speaker 4>M hm.

0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:15.000
<v Speaker 1>Hmm. Okay, So why tell me why you feel compelled

0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:16.720
<v Speaker 1>or what made you want to come on here and

0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:17.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about it?

0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:25.680
<v Speaker 2>So, I mean recently, so at this college INMNT, they

0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:31.280
<v Speaker 2>offer free counseling, which is pretty amazing, and I've recently

0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:36.000
<v Speaker 2>started it. So in my culture, counseling isn't even really

0:11:36.080 --> 0:11:39.480
<v Speaker 2>like believe in or therapy, whatever you want to call it.

0:11:39.960 --> 0:11:42.480
<v Speaker 2>So I recently started that, just I don't know when,

0:11:42.520 --> 0:11:44.920
<v Speaker 2>because I saw I was threading and it was on campus,

0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.520
<v Speaker 2>and after that, I was been thinking about my life,

0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:53.800
<v Speaker 2>like as myself individually, and I realized, just upon reflection,

0:11:54.080 --> 0:11:57.160
<v Speaker 2>how weird this is. And I was like, I'm not

0:11:57.240 --> 0:12:00.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna let this be, you know, unknown to put it

0:12:00.600 --> 0:12:04.040
<v Speaker 2>out there, because it just feels crean to to say

0:12:04.080 --> 0:12:05.400
<v Speaker 2>it out loud. I guess.

0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:12.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's an interesting thing. That you're touching goon Like culturally,

0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:16.240
<v Speaker 1>where you come from and what you understand is very

0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:22.079
<v Speaker 1>like communal, family oriented, and it's kind of been that

0:12:22.120 --> 0:12:26.000
<v Speaker 1>way your whole life. And now you're examining your life

0:12:26.840 --> 0:12:30.600
<v Speaker 1>as an individual and you know how you feel about things.

0:12:30.640 --> 0:12:32.760
<v Speaker 1>What you want is that? Is that accurate?

0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:35.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Exactly.

0:12:36.440 --> 0:12:40.440
<v Speaker 1>So in examining yourself as an individual, what what have

0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you observed? What what have you come up with?

0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:49.920
<v Speaker 2>So my life is just really interesting, man, I don't know,

0:12:51.800 --> 0:12:56.079
<v Speaker 2>it's it's really weird because I was like kind when

0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:59.160
<v Speaker 2>I immigrated to the US, and now I'm tony, so

0:12:59.400 --> 0:13:01.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm a gorant here, like I guess at a really

0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:05.000
<v Speaker 2>critical point, you know, so I don't even understand. Like

0:13:05.120 --> 0:13:08.880
<v Speaker 2>half my life is kind of, as I said, just cultural,

0:13:09.000 --> 0:13:11.760
<v Speaker 2>and then half is like I don't know that it's complicated.

0:13:11.800 --> 0:13:14.000
<v Speaker 2>But I'm talking to a real therapist about that.

0:13:16.880 --> 0:13:21.600
<v Speaker 1>Tell tell them, well, tell me about immigrating here.

0:13:23.600 --> 0:13:28.240
<v Speaker 2>Uh well, so I was ten, I literally, So that's

0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.000
<v Speaker 2>the three part is I was never really taught English,

0:13:31.120 --> 0:13:34.080
<v Speaker 2>like formally in Pakistan, but I used to play like

0:13:34.240 --> 0:13:38.520
<v Speaker 2>counter Strike online and I would I literally just learned

0:13:38.520 --> 0:13:42.240
<v Speaker 2>English from the video game. If that makes any sense. Yeah,

0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:45.520
<v Speaker 2>So when I came here, I was able to talk

0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.720
<v Speaker 2>to people man, just by playing using my computer and

0:13:48.760 --> 0:13:50.600
<v Speaker 2>stuff in English.

0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.960
<v Speaker 4>And I know I've talked to a lot of people

0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.920
<v Speaker 4>who they've they've learned English from playing online video games,

0:13:58.080 --> 0:14:01.400
<v Speaker 4>so you know, all of them know how to tell

0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.760
<v Speaker 4>you in perfect English that they fucked your mom.

0:14:05.800 --> 0:14:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. That that is where it starts.

0:14:11.160 --> 0:14:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I interrupted.

0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:15.599
<v Speaker 2>You keep going, Oh, yeah, So I was in the

0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:18.440
<v Speaker 2>fourth grade when I came here. I think they placed

0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.080
<v Speaker 2>me a grade down even though my age was like ten.

0:14:21.640 --> 0:14:25.840
<v Speaker 2>But whatever. So I came here in fourth grade, went

0:14:25.880 --> 0:14:28.160
<v Speaker 2>through all the high school, middle school, you know whatever.

0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:34.000
<v Speaker 2>It was weird. I didn't really have There's not really

0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other Pakistani people where I live, so

0:14:37.760 --> 0:14:40.760
<v Speaker 2>it was kind of weird. You know. I just felt

0:14:40.760 --> 0:14:43.840
<v Speaker 2>like I was trying to sit in and whatever. But

0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:48.240
<v Speaker 2>now that I'm in college, there are other Pakistani people

0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that I am relating with and just blending in with

0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:55.520
<v Speaker 2>the regular American people as well. So it's been a journey.

0:14:55.600 --> 0:15:00.680
<v Speaker 2>But overall, I will say I'm so grateful for event because,

0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:03.440
<v Speaker 2>as everybody knows, Pakistan is not really you know, the

0:15:03.440 --> 0:15:04.240
<v Speaker 2>best place to.

0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Live are you friends now with a lot of other

0:15:09.360 --> 0:15:10.360
<v Speaker 1>people from Pakistan.

0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:17.200
<v Speaker 2>Uh, well, I mean in America. Yeah. It's funny because

0:15:17.760 --> 0:15:20.560
<v Speaker 2>sometimes because when I was in fourth grade in Pakistan,

0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:22.800
<v Speaker 2>I had like a Facebook and ship. So I'll like

0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:25.880
<v Speaker 2>look at my Facebook and see what my old fourth

0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:28.040
<v Speaker 2>grade taxisan your friends are doing now?

0:15:29.680 --> 0:15:33.280
<v Speaker 1>Interesting? Okay, So how does how does life in America

0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:36.320
<v Speaker 1>for you and and like for your American friends compare

0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:39.840
<v Speaker 1>to what you see on Facebook from your Pakistani friends?

0:15:41.400 --> 0:15:46.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh dude, So the one big big thing is in Pakistan, dude.

0:15:47.360 --> 0:15:50.720
<v Speaker 2>So you know, in Muslim countries, like women and men

0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:53.760
<v Speaker 2>are like kind of separated. So in Pakistan, dude, you

0:15:53.760 --> 0:15:56.080
<v Speaker 2>can hug a guy, you go, children shoulder down the

0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.800
<v Speaker 2>street with them. In America, I've noticed that, like guys

0:16:00.440 --> 0:16:03.840
<v Speaker 2>aren't like that clothes. But I know that's one thing.

0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Wait, okay, so so because so I so in Pakistan,

0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:10.920
<v Speaker 1>are you not, like, you know, are you allowed to

0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:14.120
<v Speaker 1>like hold hands with your you.

0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Will straight up, yeah they do. It's not that you're

0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:23.720
<v Speaker 2>allowed if they do. Wait, is it sounds weird? Because

0:16:24.360 --> 0:16:29.400
<v Speaker 2>oh they are allowed. You know, kids hold hands, Guys

0:16:29.560 --> 0:16:31.720
<v Speaker 2>hold hands while they walk down the street, Guys have

0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:35.080
<v Speaker 2>hands around each other's neck while they walk down the street.

0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:40.000
<v Speaker 2>That's like culture. It's weird because Muslim countries they like

0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:43.960
<v Speaker 2>hate gay stuff and whatever, you know, but it's I

0:16:43.960 --> 0:16:44.800
<v Speaker 2>don't I don't get it.

0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:48.680
<v Speaker 1>Huh wait, So so what I'm hearing is that is

0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that the Muslim countries hate gay stuff, but they love

0:16:52.080 --> 0:16:53.800
<v Speaker 1>a good romance.

0:16:54.800 --> 0:17:00.200
<v Speaker 2>Exactly. That is exactly. That's that's one thing good I

0:17:00.360 --> 0:17:03.520
<v Speaker 2>really noticed the lack of in America. It's hard to get,

0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:09.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, like like FROs.

0:17:07.320 --> 0:17:11.200
<v Speaker 1>Very very interesting to hear that. So people in in

0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:16.040
<v Speaker 1>in Pakistan are a lot more touchy feely and and

0:17:16.040 --> 0:17:16.640
<v Speaker 1>and openly.

0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like when I was in fourth grade, dude, I

0:17:19.280 --> 0:17:21.240
<v Speaker 2>would have my friend group, you know, we would be

0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:24.800
<v Speaker 2>all touchy touchy Okay, I don't want to say an

0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:25.199
<v Speaker 2>he was.

0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:33.159
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. Hmmm. So so wait, so you're allowed.

0:17:33.280 --> 0:17:36.719
<v Speaker 1>So it's cool to walk down the street in Pakistan

0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>holding hands with another man as long as you guys

0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:41.800
<v Speaker 1>aren't fucking.

0:17:45.080 --> 0:17:48.000
<v Speaker 2>If you would have if you would have as an American,

0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:50.320
<v Speaker 2>of course that's gonna sound weird, but I'm telling you

0:17:50.400 --> 0:17:52.880
<v Speaker 2>that is okay.

0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:57.080
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know, do you think that, like, well,

0:17:57.119 --> 0:17:59.040
<v Speaker 1>we kind of touched on on on this a little

0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.480
<v Speaker 1>bit when we were talking about, like, you know, maybe

0:18:01.480 --> 0:18:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the reasoning why you you're sleeping in your mom's bed

0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:09.200
<v Speaker 1>of like the culturally. Culturally there's a stronger emphasis on

0:18:09.240 --> 0:18:14.480
<v Speaker 1>on community and family and togetherness maybe than there is

0:18:14.640 --> 0:18:16.680
<v Speaker 1>here in the United States, and so that's why there's

0:18:16.760 --> 0:18:19.600
<v Speaker 1>less of there's less romance here.

0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:23.160
<v Speaker 2>Do exactly hit the nail on the head.

0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:27.479
<v Speaker 1>That's fascinating. Okay, anything else that you've you've noticed from

0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.800
<v Speaker 1>observing your your your buddies on Facebook.

0:18:34.320 --> 0:18:41.359
<v Speaker 2>Specifically my buddy's on Facebook, I've noticed that, uh, let's see,

0:18:43.640 --> 0:18:52.919
<v Speaker 2>I mean it is I mean they're all graduated and stuff,

0:18:52.960 --> 0:18:57.120
<v Speaker 2>and I've noticed that like in tagastand getting a job

0:18:57.160 --> 0:19:00.879
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, it's it's like impossible unless you have connections

0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:04.520
<v Speaker 2>and stuff. I've noticed that even though they're all graduated now,

0:19:06.040 --> 0:19:07.639
<v Speaker 2>like they're the same age as me. Of course, so

0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:10.720
<v Speaker 2>they've graduated high school and they're intelleges and stuff. So

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:13.640
<v Speaker 2>now while I'm in America and I can find internships

0:19:13.680 --> 0:19:18.080
<v Speaker 2>and whatnot, dude, in Pakistan it's a it's a hellhole. Dude.

0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.880
<v Speaker 2>It's kind of impossible to make it just through hard work. There,

0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:25.000
<v Speaker 2>and I mean, I love my country or death then,

0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:26.960
<v Speaker 2>but it's it's not fair.

0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:31.280
<v Speaker 1>Mhm. So you really so it is true that there's

0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.679
<v Speaker 1>like greater opportunity for you in America than in Pakistan.

0:19:36.240 --> 0:19:39.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they'd one hundred percent, like even though of course

0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:43.119
<v Speaker 2>America has its own trouble is like, but I've noticed

0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 2>that it is still better than Pakistan, you know, exponentially.

0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:48.560
<v Speaker 5>M hm.

0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.400
<v Speaker 1>So your homies that are all like your age, now,

0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:53.080
<v Speaker 1>what are they doing?

0:19:55.040 --> 0:20:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Dude? They're sick, yes, trying to be a photographer. You know,

0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:04.399
<v Speaker 2>they're in that phase. You know how people have that

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:07.040
<v Speaker 2>phase where they want to be a rapper or whatever. Yeah,

0:20:07.160 --> 0:20:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Pakistan is really common to have as a phase where

0:20:09.320 --> 0:20:12.119
<v Speaker 2>they want to be a photographer. Dude, go where Sun's glasses,

0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:13.520
<v Speaker 2>to go out in the streets. You know?

0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:17.159
<v Speaker 1>Is that a specific? Is this is that specific to Pakistan?

0:20:18.600 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 2>Well? I don't. I don't think specific a Taksana specific

0:20:21.160 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 2>bit of friends that I knew, I guess m hm hmm.

0:20:26.160 --> 0:20:30.359
<v Speaker 1>What's your version of that? What do you uh want

0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to be when you grow up?

0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I I'll be honest, I don't even have like a

0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:41.680
<v Speaker 2>big you know how people always say they want to

0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:43.840
<v Speaker 2>be a millionaire or whatever. To be honest, I just

0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.520
<v Speaker 2>want to live a regular life, dude. Like sometimes I'll

0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:50.040
<v Speaker 2>think about it, and my ideal life is kind of

0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:54.000
<v Speaker 2>graduating from college or working in it and like a

0:20:54.040 --> 0:20:56.440
<v Speaker 2>local public school or something where it's like a government

0:20:56.520 --> 0:21:00.760
<v Speaker 2>job so there's not really like pressure and just getting

0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:03.600
<v Speaker 2>a house and why some kids, Dude, that's it, That's

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:04.120
<v Speaker 2>what I want.

0:21:09.600 --> 0:21:15.320
<v Speaker 1>So going back to your discovery of your individual or

0:21:15.520 --> 0:21:22.240
<v Speaker 1>or exploration of your individuality, do you do you desire

0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.400
<v Speaker 1>to leave your mom's bed?

0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:33.199
<v Speaker 2>It's this good situation I would say, no, dude, Like

0:21:34.000 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I love my mom and it's just and I just

0:21:38.080 --> 0:21:41.600
<v Speaker 2>want to, like because because of her condition on whatever,

0:21:41.640 --> 0:21:44.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't even know like what the average life and

0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.440
<v Speaker 2>is for somebody of that kind. I just want to

0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:50.439
<v Speaker 2>show her all the love I can and just that

0:21:50.600 --> 0:21:53.600
<v Speaker 2>is one form of my love. Because of our schizophrenia,

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 2>I can't really you know, show her my love. I

0:21:58.880 --> 0:22:00.760
<v Speaker 2>guess through my work and whatever.

0:22:01.440 --> 0:22:07.560
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm mm hmm. What about your What about your dad?

0:22:08.040 --> 0:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>Does he snore?

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm actually a pretty deep sleeper, I guess I

0:22:16.800 --> 0:22:20.480
<v Speaker 2>don't do. My mom snores like crazy. I don't know,

0:22:20.480 --> 0:22:22.520
<v Speaker 2>about my dad. I don't think he does because I'm

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:25.720
<v Speaker 2>crazy deep sleep where like I don't really notice, not

0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.040
<v Speaker 2>too much, but I do know when I sometimes my

0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.720
<v Speaker 2>mom is taking a nap. She's a crazy snor.

0:22:32.880 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 1>What's your relationship like with your dad?

0:22:38.560 --> 0:22:44.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's kind of like a regular Middle Eastern dad.

0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:48.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, straight a's at school. You know he expects that,

0:22:48.560 --> 0:22:51.760
<v Speaker 2>and you know, just the typical as in that he always,

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:54.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, goes home to work, as I said, super early,

0:22:54.560 --> 0:22:57.000
<v Speaker 2>comes home late, only has like a couple of hours

0:22:57.000 --> 0:23:00.359
<v Speaker 2>at home, and in that hour, you know, we're just

0:23:01.359 --> 0:23:03.919
<v Speaker 2>talking about school. It's shit, it's not really deep, to

0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:04.399
<v Speaker 2>be honest.

0:23:06.640 --> 0:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Hmm. Are you out there trying to to date? It

0:23:13.760 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>sounds like family is important to you. It sounds like

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:19.440
<v Speaker 1>you want a wife and kids one day. You dating.

0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean, as that's something I've recently started thinking about,

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 2>I guess, after thinking about myself as an individual. But

0:23:28.720 --> 0:23:31.879
<v Speaker 2>in Pakistan, it's not, that's not an aspect of a culture.

0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:35.480
<v Speaker 2>It's arranged marriage. Like you're not even allowed to date

0:23:35.480 --> 0:23:38.280
<v Speaker 2>in Pakistani culture. You just I guess when you're like

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.760
<v Speaker 2>twenty five or something, you get arranged marriage and that's it.

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>Well, now you're now now you're in the land of

0:23:44.280 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the free baby. Time to make a Tinder account. They're

0:23:48.680 --> 0:23:53.240
<v Speaker 1>actually I actually, genuinely, genuinely I I and I don't know.

0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:56.520
<v Speaker 1>I only know one side of this, but sometimes you'll

0:23:56.520 --> 0:24:00.280
<v Speaker 1>be I I guarantee that if you started in your

0:24:00.320 --> 0:24:03.720
<v Speaker 1>account after about a day, you'll be like, I should

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:05.040
<v Speaker 1>have went with the arranged marriage.

0:24:07.480 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the debating scene. I mean, I've just been looking

0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:14.120
<v Speaker 2>at stuff on the internet, and yeah, it sounds pretty bad,

0:24:14.760 --> 0:24:16.320
<v Speaker 2>really hard to get in the dating.

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Scene, is so, I mean, is the plan for there

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:25.080
<v Speaker 1>to like, is your plan for there to be some

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:27.240
<v Speaker 1>kind of arranged marriage.

0:24:27.000 --> 0:24:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Or well, I mean for me? Okay, so my brothers

0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:33.560
<v Speaker 2>they are in like the marriage kind of age right now,

0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:37.800
<v Speaker 2>and my parents, I mean, my mom is kind of

0:24:38.160 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 2>but my dad is trying to get them to an

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:44.879
<v Speaker 2>arrange marriage. For me though I haven't decided yet and

0:24:45.640 --> 0:24:48.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't I don't know. I'll see after talking to

0:24:48.200 --> 0:24:51.400
<v Speaker 2>my therapist and you know, kind of using my American

0:24:51.480 --> 0:24:54.600
<v Speaker 2>and Pakistani tels, we'll see what I feel like.

0:24:55.760 --> 0:24:57.560
<v Speaker 1>How does can you explain a little bit of how

0:24:57.560 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>the arranged marriage process works?

0:25:01.520 --> 0:25:01.680
<v Speaker 5>Uh?

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:06.040
<v Speaker 2>So, okay, So in Pakistan, dude, I'll be honest, Like

0:25:06.640 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 2>cousin marriages and stuff, they're still pretty common. Now. My

0:25:09.640 --> 0:25:13.119
<v Speaker 2>family is pretty liberal Pakistani, I guess you can say,

0:25:13.160 --> 0:25:18.479
<v Speaker 2>so they're not really into that. So basically every family

0:25:18.560 --> 0:25:21.880
<v Speaker 2>has that one auntie that you go to who has

0:25:21.960 --> 0:25:24.679
<v Speaker 2>like all the connections with all the all the people,

0:25:24.800 --> 0:25:27.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, like, hey, I'm trying to get my daughter made.

0:25:27.160 --> 0:25:28.880
<v Speaker 2>If you know, somebody let me know. Hey, I'm trying

0:25:28.880 --> 0:25:31.479
<v Speaker 2>to get my sun made. So everybody goes to that

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:35.159
<v Speaker 2>one person and they're like arranged marriage, I don't know,

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 2>hero whatever you want to say, and they kind of

0:25:38.320 --> 0:25:38.920
<v Speaker 2>hook you up.

0:25:41.119 --> 0:25:45.919
<v Speaker 1>What's your personal view on arranged marriage? Because I don't know,

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about it. And again this is a total

0:25:48.359 --> 0:25:53.200
<v Speaker 1>outsider opinion, but like after you know, you know, after

0:25:53.320 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>paying for for tender premium, you know, you're you're kind

0:25:58.320 --> 0:26:01.240
<v Speaker 1>of like part of you does think like you knows

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:06.479
<v Speaker 1>as like you know, with all the with all the

0:26:06.520 --> 0:26:09.600
<v Speaker 1>infinite cons that could come with with arranged marriage, there

0:26:09.680 --> 0:26:13.080
<v Speaker 1>is the big pro of like, well, that's a giant

0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 1>quest in life that I don't have to think about anymore.

0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:21.840
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a giant challenge to navigate your romantic

0:26:22.359 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>sexual life, and so maybe there is something appealing about

0:26:26.040 --> 0:26:28.800
<v Speaker 1>having someone just fucking up and decide it for you.

0:26:30.359 --> 0:26:32.240
<v Speaker 1>So I want to hear your your kind of personal

0:26:32.280 --> 0:26:32.919
<v Speaker 1>opinion on it.

0:26:34.280 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, as I sayd dude, I'm kind of

0:26:37.600 --> 0:26:40.160
<v Speaker 2>the same way as you. Like if I'm just kind

0:26:40.160 --> 0:26:43.400
<v Speaker 2>of living my life like with me and that's it.

0:26:43.440 --> 0:26:47.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm not really looking out for anything. But if it's

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.000
<v Speaker 2>like during college, if something comes up and you know,

0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the relationship, the dating scene gets serious, you know, I

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:56.119
<v Speaker 2>might hop into it. But if not, you know, I

0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:00.560
<v Speaker 2>always have that backup, you know, the peaceful mind, you

0:27:00.600 --> 0:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>know the arrange folks. I mean, then I will do

0:27:03.080 --> 0:27:04.959
<v Speaker 2>have the arrange marriage options.

0:27:06.040 --> 0:27:10.119
<v Speaker 1>So you're telling me that you're one just really bad

0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:13.320
<v Speaker 1>day away from being like fuck it, Like that's always

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.840
<v Speaker 1>in your bad public, it's always in your back pocket,

0:27:16.200 --> 0:27:17.879
<v Speaker 1>Like you'll give it, You'll give day to try, and

0:27:17.960 --> 0:27:20.520
<v Speaker 1>if it doesn't work out, you'll go to your auntie.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, dude, well the reason. But as I said, I'm

0:27:25.400 --> 0:27:28.320
<v Speaker 2>not really going out for dating. It's like I'm just

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.960
<v Speaker 2>me and if somebody comes up in my life where

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, this could get a romantic because then

0:27:34.480 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 2>I'll go into it. It's not like I'm speaking in

0:27:38.320 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>my current state.

0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Sure sure, sure sure? Did you ever have you, like

0:27:44.080 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>have a girlfriend in high school or or or a crush.

0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 5>Or That's one of the like things, uh that I've

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 5>always thought about and thinking like should I have?

0:27:58.000 --> 0:28:01.360
<v Speaker 2>But I've never. I've never. The only thing is that,

0:28:01.440 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 2>in like middle school, a girl asked me out and

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 2>I just kind of rejected her kindly. I was like, oh, no,

0:28:09.600 --> 0:28:11.960
<v Speaker 2>you're cute, but I just don't want to date. And

0:28:12.119 --> 0:28:15.280
<v Speaker 2>that was pretty much it. In high school that they

0:28:15.359 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 2>really came up.

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:23.080
<v Speaker 1>M hmm. What about what about career wise? What do

0:28:23.160 --> 0:28:24.159
<v Speaker 1>you what do you hope for?

0:28:25.119 --> 0:28:28.880
<v Speaker 2>So? I mean I started off like looking and working

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 2>at the local grocery store or whatever during high school

0:28:32.400 --> 0:28:34.400
<v Speaker 2>and now I'm in college, so I got an internship

0:28:34.400 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>and I see, as you said, I mean, as I

0:28:36.520 --> 0:28:40.000
<v Speaker 2>said before h and after graduating, dude, as I said,

0:28:40.000 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 2>I just want to kind of get a government job

0:28:43.880 --> 0:28:46.440
<v Speaker 2>or something of that sort where I can just like

0:28:47.040 --> 0:28:49.040
<v Speaker 2>do a tenure there for like twenty thirty years.

0:28:49.200 --> 0:28:51.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you think you'll ever go back to Pakistan? Like

0:28:51.600 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>I assume not to live But you know, just to say,

0:28:57.080 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 1>of course, I've.

0:28:57.760 --> 0:28:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Been there a couple of times. I was just there

0:28:59.320 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 2>like two years ago. Dude, my family is still It's

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:07.840
<v Speaker 2>not like uh so my family like just my immediate family,

0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 2>my brother's and mom. We moved here as a whole,

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>but like my arrest of the family is still in Pakistan.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:13.560
<v Speaker 1>Dude.

0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.680
<v Speaker 2>We go there like every couple of years.

0:29:16.680 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 1>Would you reckon? I? You know, I I have this

0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>dream of like doing my little gecko interviews. I do,

0:29:23.120 --> 0:29:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, in addition to the phone call stuff I

0:29:24.880 --> 0:29:27.480
<v Speaker 1>do like on the street interviews and stuff.

0:29:27.240 --> 0:29:29.760
<v Speaker 2>And I watch all your stuff.

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Come on, Oh hell yeah, Okay, So how would you like,

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>do you think I should go to Pakistan to do it?

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:36.560
<v Speaker 1>How how do you think that would go over?

0:29:38.600 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 2>I do I think you should? If you go, though,

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.600
<v Speaker 2>I would recommend uh. I mean, Pakistan is a pretty

0:29:44.720 --> 0:29:47.840
<v Speaker 2>good English speaking country, but I would recommend you go

0:29:47.880 --> 0:29:51.240
<v Speaker 2>to like the college campus or something there. You'll find

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 2>like a bunch of you know, young people from because

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 2>Pakistan is weird, dude, Like some parts are super conservative

0:29:58.680 --> 0:30:01.520
<v Speaker 2>and they're still into like cousin marriages and all that stuff.

0:30:01.520 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 2>And in some parts of like we're liberated. So I'll

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>go to a college campus. You'll be safe, dude, and

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.880
<v Speaker 2>you'll have a bunch of you know, like a wide

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:12.600
<v Speaker 2>spectrum of people with you, and they'll all speak English,

0:30:12.640 --> 0:30:14.520
<v Speaker 2>probably because they're going to college campus.

0:30:14.760 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 1>What's the other what's the other major language spoken there?

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:24.680
<v Speaker 2>It's Urzu. So it's basically like Pakistan and India were one,

0:30:24.920 --> 0:30:27.520
<v Speaker 2>like like one hundred years ago or whatever, and now

0:30:27.800 --> 0:30:31.440
<v Speaker 2>so order is basically the same language as Hindy. But

0:30:31.680 --> 0:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>in fact, Senate's uzum.

0:30:34.880 --> 0:30:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, if I ever go there, all right, if I

0:30:36.800 --> 0:30:38.720
<v Speaker 1>ever go there, I might hit you up. I actually

0:30:38.760 --> 0:30:41.800
<v Speaker 1>got a DM, I was. I don't know how many

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how many people in Pakistan listen to

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>this show, but I got a DM once from somebody saying, Hey,

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:49.520
<v Speaker 1>I live in Pakistan, let me know if you ever

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>want to come and I'll show you around. And I was.

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't in a position to just to just like,

0:30:55.680 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like in the middle of touring

0:30:57.160 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, so I wasn't in a position to just like, yeah,

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.680
<v Speaker 1>say fucking and go. But I'm getting into a point

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:04.320
<v Speaker 1>where I can kind of do stuff like that, and

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:06.480
<v Speaker 1>so I might I might say fucking and go.

0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, dude, you gotta go. It's like, screw all

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>the gecko and whatever. Do it's just an amazing visit.

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.520
<v Speaker 1>Of course, yeah, of course all.

0:31:16.400 --> 0:31:19.680
<v Speaker 2>The food is bombed. It's a spicy though, so.

0:31:23.200 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you might see it being a gecko in Pakistan video.

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 1>I like to do. I'll do, like if I take

0:31:29.320 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>a trip like that, I'll do I'll do half lyle

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.160
<v Speaker 1>half gecko time. But enough about me and my stupid life.

0:31:36.480 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 1>I want to know this before we go. What is

0:31:38.200 --> 0:31:43.400
<v Speaker 1>your like? So you you have these two older brothers, Yeah,

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:47.360
<v Speaker 1>do they think and feel similarly to you? On? On on,

0:31:48.080 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you know the stuff that we've been talking about.

0:31:53.240 --> 0:31:57.600
<v Speaker 2>I'll be honest, bro, Like they're kind of busy, like

0:31:57.640 --> 0:31:59.880
<v Speaker 2>in their own life. They have their own full time job.

0:32:00.040 --> 0:32:03.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't really have like deep conversations with any of

0:32:03.720 --> 0:32:08.120
<v Speaker 2>my immediate family, like, I'll be honest, m So, I'm

0:32:08.200 --> 0:32:10.920
<v Speaker 2>not even They just have full time jobs. They come

0:32:10.960 --> 0:32:11.600
<v Speaker 2>home and sleep.

0:32:12.800 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you wish that you did have deeper

0:32:15.520 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>conversations with them?

0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:22.960
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't know, I'll be I don't know,

0:32:27.160 --> 0:32:30.040
<v Speaker 2>mm hmm. It is it is just kind of weird

0:32:30.080 --> 0:32:35.040
<v Speaker 2>because like, uh like when cleaning, like we're all in

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:40.480
<v Speaker 2>one house and everybody's a grown adult, and because everybody's

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:43.280
<v Speaker 2>been like babied into being a grown adults, like they

0:32:43.320 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 2>don't even like clean up after their own message and whatever,

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 2>So it's just a wild wild word.

0:32:49.240 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 1>Who's cleaning up around the house.

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.440
<v Speaker 2>Dude, it's me because my mom has as he can't,

0:32:55.480 --> 0:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>my dad has a full time job, my brothers have

0:32:57.440 --> 0:32:58.280
<v Speaker 2>a full time job.

0:32:58.400 --> 0:33:03.360
<v Speaker 1>And you know, so you're but don't you but you

0:33:03.400 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>have a fucking full time job.

0:33:06.040 --> 0:33:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Now I have a part time job, and I'm a student.

0:33:08.200 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 2>And being a student in this culture, is this the

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 2>look that as doing nothing? So you I'm the youngest

0:33:14.320 --> 0:33:17.680
<v Speaker 2>in the house, so I'm just kind of automatically expected

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 2>to brush.

0:33:19.280 --> 0:33:23.000
<v Speaker 1>So you're twenty, you're you're working a part time job,

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:26.640
<v Speaker 1>you're a student, you're sort of you're taking care of

0:33:26.720 --> 0:33:33.280
<v Speaker 1>your mom, and you're cleaning up after everyone in the house. Basically,

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:35.320
<v Speaker 1>goddamn man.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, hey, as I said, though, it's miles better than

0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.160
<v Speaker 2>anything I would have lived in Pakistan.

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:42.000
<v Speaker 5>So.

0:33:45.200 --> 0:33:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Deep respect, deep respect. What I mean, what is like

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:58.880
<v Speaker 1>if you didn't have all these crazy responsibilities, Like what

0:33:58.880 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>would you like if you were to take some time

0:34:01.760 --> 0:34:03.560
<v Speaker 1>for yourself, what would it even look like? What would

0:34:03.600 --> 0:34:03.920
<v Speaker 1>you do?

0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Dude? I don't even have like that any I guess

0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.160
<v Speaker 2>hobbies or shit like I just play video games on

0:34:12.280 --> 0:34:16.440
<v Speaker 2>my PC. And as I said of my gold in

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 2>life is too just kind of h be steady, like

0:34:22.280 --> 0:34:27.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't even want to do anything like I just

0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:29.759
<v Speaker 2>want to, you know, get a nine to five job

0:34:30.520 --> 0:34:33.520
<v Speaker 2>when I come home from work, play video games and

0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:34.320
<v Speaker 2>then go to sleep.

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Are you happy with life right now?

0:34:39.480 --> 0:34:42.359
<v Speaker 2>Right now, dude, I'm super happy. It's just such a

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:46.239
<v Speaker 2>privilege to to go to college and to have an internship.

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 2>Just oh man, it's amazing. It's a privilege to drive

0:34:50.840 --> 0:34:54.320
<v Speaker 2>a car, dude. Like in Pakistan cars don't even nobody

0:34:54.320 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>can afford one.

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.399
<v Speaker 1>It's a good it's a good perspective you're walking around with. Man,

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:12.600
<v Speaker 1>it really is. Well you know what, man, Look, I

0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>know I know you feel like I'm gonna tell you

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 1>this a mint before we go. I know you feel

0:35:19.920 --> 0:35:22.319
<v Speaker 1>some sense of I don't know if it's embarrassment or

0:35:22.320 --> 0:35:29.080
<v Speaker 1>whatever about uh sleeping in your mom's bed. But but

0:35:29.080 --> 0:35:33.880
<v Speaker 1>but look, but look that aside, you're taking care of

0:35:34.200 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 1>four fucking people. Uh, and you're the youngest of them.

0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>You're you're working your ass off, cleaning porn, off of

0:35:42.200 --> 0:35:47.960
<v Speaker 1>all these MacBooks, crumb books, whatever, you're you're studying. You're

0:35:48.080 --> 0:35:52.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're doing so much man, so like and

0:35:52.200 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 1>you're happy and you're you're you're doing it all. You're

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>doing it all also not you know, walking around every

0:35:58.000 --> 0:36:00.560
<v Speaker 1>day being like, oh my love sucks is so looking horror,

0:36:00.560 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 1>I have to do all this stuff. You're like grateful

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:04.880
<v Speaker 1>to do it all. I mean, you're you're a walking

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:11.279
<v Speaker 1>w man. So I hope you don't feel too I

0:36:11.280 --> 0:36:13.759
<v Speaker 1>don't know if ashamed is the word, but whatever, I

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:15.759
<v Speaker 1>hope you. I hope you feel good about yourself and

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:18.560
<v Speaker 1>good about life because you're really doing it in a

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 1>in a in an honest and noble way. And I

0:36:21.239 --> 0:36:23.759
<v Speaker 1>have a lot of respect for that. And I appreciate

0:36:23.800 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 1>you coming on here and and uh sharing this stuff

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.719
<v Speaker 1>because I know it was uh, you know, hard to

0:36:30.719 --> 0:36:33.400
<v Speaker 1>do and that you haven't done it with anyone before.

0:36:33.480 --> 0:36:36.279
<v Speaker 1>So you know, thanks man, And it was it was

0:36:36.280 --> 0:36:37.239
<v Speaker 1>really good talking to you.

0:36:39.000 --> 0:36:42.799
<v Speaker 2>It was really good talking to you too. And just dude,

0:36:42.840 --> 0:36:44.799
<v Speaker 2>I love your stuff. I watch you every day on

0:36:44.880 --> 0:36:47.840
<v Speaker 2>my car ride to college. I mean, not watched, but listen.

0:36:48.640 --> 0:36:50.839
<v Speaker 2>So it's been a pleasure of being on here man.

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:53.840
<v Speaker 1>So anything else you want to say to the people

0:36:53.840 --> 0:36:55.000
<v Speaker 1>of the computer before we.

0:36:54.920 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>Go, Uh, just the supportive of everybody.

0:37:01.719 --> 0:37:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, beautiful, take care.

0:37:06.320 --> 0:37:10.360
<v Speaker 2>Maud all right, thank you, get bye.

0:37:10.719 --> 0:37:12.640
<v Speaker 1>Damn. I love talking to that guy. That was cool.

0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Very interesting perspective, man, very interesting perspective. I don't know

0:37:19.280 --> 0:37:21.040
<v Speaker 1>if I have anything to say in these post call

0:37:21.120 --> 0:37:24.240
<v Speaker 1>thoughts that I didn't already say, but uh, it's very

0:37:24.239 --> 0:37:26.880
<v Speaker 1>cool to me that he's he's juggling all these things

0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:32.919
<v Speaker 1>in his life with like no resentment at all. Right,

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Like that's that is the crazy part to me, because

0:37:37.600 --> 0:37:41.879
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I hate doing anything. I complain all

0:37:41.920 --> 0:37:47.120
<v Speaker 1>the time about having to do anything, and and specifically

0:37:47.120 --> 0:37:52.680
<v Speaker 1>this like the other I had. I drove an hour

0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>somewhere the other day and I was like so pissed

0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>off and like I was stuck in traffic and I

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:02.359
<v Speaker 1>was upset. I was like, I hate driving, I hate

0:38:02.400 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 1>having the drive. Driving sucks. I fucking hate this car.

0:38:05.719 --> 0:38:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I just was like pissed off and stewing, and then

0:38:08.960 --> 0:38:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking to this guy who's like, you know, the

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>total opposite, like oh my like in bliss, like, oh

0:38:14.560 --> 0:38:17.000
<v Speaker 1>my god, it's such a privilege to be able to drive,

0:38:18.120 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and like that that that is is an

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>interesting perspective. I liked that guy's perspective on everything, and

0:38:26.360 --> 0:38:30.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, even though he was again I don't know

0:38:30.200 --> 0:38:32.040
<v Speaker 1>if ashamed is the word. I don't want to put

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:35.080
<v Speaker 1>emotions in this guy's mouth, but he felt he felt

0:38:35.080 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>the type of way about talking to people about the

0:38:37.000 --> 0:38:39.640
<v Speaker 1>fact that he sleeps in his mom's bed. But on

0:38:39.680 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 1>the same coin, when I asked him about it, his

0:38:43.480 --> 0:38:48.360
<v Speaker 1>personal feelings about it, uh were that it's not weird

0:38:48.680 --> 0:38:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that he actually wanted to do it because he doesn't

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.080
<v Speaker 1>know how much time he'll have left with his mom.

0:38:55.120 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 1>None of us know how much time we'll have left

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.040
<v Speaker 1>with the people that we care about in our lives,

0:38:59.440 --> 0:39:01.839
<v Speaker 1>and so it was something that he was happy about

0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>and he felt good about, even if you know, other

0:39:06.160 --> 0:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>people might look at it a different way. So I

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:10.480
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I thought that guy was awesome. I loved

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>talking to him, and I'm gonna try to do it.

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to go to Pakistan and talk to people,

0:39:17.560 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 1>if you while I'm here while people are listening. If

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>you live because this is something I want to do

0:39:23.280 --> 0:39:27.040
<v Speaker 1>a lot more of in the future. If you live

0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 1>in like an interesting place. I've gotten dms from a

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.279
<v Speaker 1>guy who actually a guy on the podcast who lived

0:39:33.320 --> 0:39:37.080
<v Speaker 1>in Kuwait. If you live in you know, I don't know,

0:39:37.080 --> 0:39:38.839
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna try to go to Vietnam. I'm gonna try

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:41.319
<v Speaker 1>to go to Thailand. If you live in Alaska. If

0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:47.080
<v Speaker 1>you live in like a place that's not the United

0:39:47.160 --> 0:39:51.040
<v Speaker 1>States or Europe or Australia or Canada, because I've kind

0:39:51.040 --> 0:39:55.200
<v Speaker 1>of covered those places, you know, South America or or

0:39:55.480 --> 0:40:00.640
<v Speaker 1>or Africa or anywhere in Asia, and you I think

0:40:00.640 --> 0:40:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it would be a cool place to go interview people.

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.200
<v Speaker 1>Let me know, send me a DM. I'm on the

0:40:06.280 --> 0:40:11.040
<v Speaker 1>hunt for more cool experiences like that, So hit me

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:15.520
<v Speaker 1>up on Instagram at Lyle the number four ever and

0:40:15.560 --> 0:40:18.400
<v Speaker 1>I'll try to check those dms. But thank you, Ahmad,

0:40:19.160 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 1>appreciate it, and gek bless you. This guy better pick

0:40:28.880 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 1>up If we're gonna have a serious problem, He's not

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:33.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna pick up.

0:40:34.480 --> 0:40:35.320
<v Speaker 3>What's up, Lyle?

0:40:35.880 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit, what's up?

0:40:36.719 --> 0:40:36.839
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:37.359
<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

0:40:38.400 --> 0:40:38.959
<v Speaker 2>That's good?

0:40:39.000 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 3>Bro?

0:40:39.200 --> 0:40:39.640
<v Speaker 2>How are you.

0:40:40.360 --> 0:40:41.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good. What's your name?

0:40:43.320 --> 0:40:44.400
<v Speaker 3>My name is James.

0:40:45.200 --> 0:40:50.560
<v Speaker 1>James. It says here that you're a neuroscientist that studies cannabis.

0:40:51.520 --> 0:40:55.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so I do have to preference this with I

0:40:55.600 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 3>work in research, so there's some stuff I cannot talk about. However, Yeah,

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:05.840
<v Speaker 3>it's it's pretty interesting stuff. A lot of.

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:09.120
<v Speaker 1>People it's I mean, from the tone of your voice,

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:12.120
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like you do a lot of first hand research.

0:41:13.760 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 3>I am actually completely sober right now.

0:41:16.440 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>That was a really I said that in a very

0:41:18.280 --> 0:41:20.480
<v Speaker 1>I said that like fucking Bill Maher or something. I

0:41:20.520 --> 0:41:22.759
<v Speaker 1>feel embarrassed about.

0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:26.040
<v Speaker 3>Me. But I know you've been I know you've been

0:41:26.080 --> 0:41:28.319
<v Speaker 3>smoking recently on your streams that you smoke tonight. I'm

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:28.720
<v Speaker 3>not watching.

0:41:28.800 --> 0:41:30.759
<v Speaker 1>No, I haven't and I didn't smoke tonight, And I

0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:33.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know where you are hold on. Where did you

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:36.479
<v Speaker 1>get any of this information that you're saying right now?

0:41:37.680 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you've been smoking on streams? You started talking about it.

0:41:41.040 --> 0:41:43.439
<v Speaker 3>I just listened to the podcast, like religiously.

0:41:44.040 --> 0:41:46.840
<v Speaker 1>When wait, when did I talk about When did I

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:48.320
<v Speaker 1>talk about smoking on the stream?

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh there was someone that you were you said something

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:55.200
<v Speaker 3>about you were getting a little too therapisty and you

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 3>are also kind of high. I forget who it was.

0:41:57.360 --> 0:41:58.560
<v Speaker 3>It was one of your recent streams.

0:41:58.760 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 1>I did say that I did that and I was

0:42:00.840 --> 0:42:03.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of high, and you're right, and I'm being defensive

0:42:03.120 --> 0:42:07.080
<v Speaker 1>right now and I'm not high right now. Here's my

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 1>thing is. I'll tell you this for I've been doing

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 1>this stream since June of twenty twenty. That's like over,

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:20.560
<v Speaker 1>it's over three years, pretty crazy for like, And in

0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:26.239
<v Speaker 1>those three years, I maybe the first three years, I

0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe had been high on a live stream one or

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:35.640
<v Speaker 1>two times, and I fucking hated it. It was really bad.

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I felt perceived. I felt like I couldn't just like

0:42:42.280 --> 0:42:45.920
<v Speaker 1>cause just talk to rant and talk and not be

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking so much about the words that are coming out

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:49.800
<v Speaker 1>of your mouth and how they're being perceived and whatnot.

0:42:50.400 --> 0:42:52.640
<v Speaker 1>You can't be high because being high makes you paranoid,

0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:54.480
<v Speaker 1>or at least for me, it does. And so I

0:42:54.520 --> 0:42:57.400
<v Speaker 1>never did it. And then there was a time, I

0:42:57.440 --> 0:43:02.880
<v Speaker 1>want to say, a month or two ago, where I

0:43:02.960 --> 0:43:05.200
<v Speaker 1>just for I don't know, for whatever reason. I think

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:08.600
<v Speaker 1>maybe I was really stressed leading up to a stream,

0:43:08.760 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, let me give this a try.

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:13.480
<v Speaker 1>It'll maybe it'll mellow me out. And I had a

0:43:13.600 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 1>nice stream and so but I also thought to myself,

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I do not want to make this a habit,

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, because that that can only I don't think

0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:28.239
<v Speaker 1>that's a good habit to have. So now, you know,

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:33.359
<v Speaker 1>like like this is what I sort of have been

0:43:33.400 --> 0:43:37.880
<v Speaker 1>doing a little bit. Is like I'll stream for my

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>normal two hours and then maybe I'll take a little

0:43:43.440 --> 0:43:46.680
<v Speaker 1>rip of a pen and the whatever comes after that

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:49.239
<v Speaker 1>as a total bonus. So like, you know, let me

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.880
<v Speaker 1>get in a couple sover and that's like maybe once

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.600
<v Speaker 1>a week. You know, I streamed two to three times

0:43:57.600 --> 0:44:01.120
<v Speaker 1>a week, and maybe for one of those streams, after

0:44:01.160 --> 0:44:03.480
<v Speaker 1>having done two hours, I'll take a little bit. But

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm not.

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:03.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not.

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want people to think I'm high all the

0:44:06.239 --> 0:44:09.760
<v Speaker 1>time on my stream. You know. That's why I didn't.

0:44:09.800 --> 0:44:12.880
<v Speaker 1>That's why I made. I made. I made the mistake

0:44:13.480 --> 0:44:15.680
<v Speaker 1>of bringing Actually I'm not gonna say it was a mistake.

0:44:15.680 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't take it back. I said that I was

0:44:17.760 --> 0:44:20.760
<v Speaker 1>high to that guy, but I didn't want I didn't,

0:44:20.920 --> 0:44:23.080
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't. I was I was gonna not say anything

0:44:23.080 --> 0:44:24.399
<v Speaker 1>because I didn't want people to think I was high

0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 1>all the time. But I also don't like to lie,

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:29.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, so I would just be honest. I don't

0:44:29.840 --> 0:44:32.840
<v Speaker 1>think there's anything wrong with being high a lot. But

0:44:32.840 --> 0:44:34.960
<v Speaker 1>that's why I wanted to talk to you, is because

0:44:34.960 --> 0:44:38.080
<v Speaker 1>that's wrong. There's probably a lot that's wrong with being

0:44:38.120 --> 0:44:40.480
<v Speaker 1>high all the time, and you would know the answer

0:44:40.520 --> 0:44:42.600
<v Speaker 1>to those questions. So please, is it? Am I gonna

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:44.160
<v Speaker 1>How long do I have to live? That's what I'm

0:44:44.320 --> 0:44:45.400
<v Speaker 1>That's what I'm really asking.

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:48.839
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I listened to your podcast religiously. You could

0:44:48.840 --> 0:44:50.759
<v Speaker 3>die in the next five seconds. I mean, we don't

0:44:50.760 --> 0:44:55.680
<v Speaker 3>fucking know. Like, no, I'm high right now.

0:44:55.719 --> 0:44:59.239
<v Speaker 1>I just hit my Okay, you fucking I asked you

0:44:59.239 --> 0:45:00.520
<v Speaker 1>if you were high right now, and you said you

0:45:00.520 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>were sober. You're lying.

0:45:02.440 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 3>While you were on that rant about how you don't

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:06.880
<v Speaker 3>get high. I got my tin out of my room

0:45:06.920 --> 0:45:07.600
<v Speaker 3>and just smoked.

0:45:08.280 --> 0:45:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Nice. That's sick.

0:45:09.800 --> 0:45:16.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, But yeah, so so neuroscience research. So I

0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.960
<v Speaker 3>actually was at the Silence Show and I wanted to

0:45:19.000 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 3>get on on stage to talk and it, uh, it

0:45:24.160 --> 0:45:26.960
<v Speaker 3>might not be exactly about this, but yeah, so like

0:45:27.040 --> 0:45:31.879
<v Speaker 3>doing research with cannabis. I actually started it out at

0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:37.400
<v Speaker 3>my college in North Carolina, and we worked with HIV.

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:42.200
<v Speaker 3>And you don't normally put HIV in cannabis together, right,

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I didn't at first with you what

0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:53.120
<v Speaker 3>like HIV and cannabis, like using cannabis to help HIV patients.

0:45:53.360 --> 0:45:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I thought you were talking about injecting HIV

0:45:56.800 --> 0:45:58.319
<v Speaker 1>into cannabis.

0:45:59.840 --> 0:46:04.280
<v Speaker 3>Not exactly. However, we did kind of inject mice with HIV.

0:46:04.400 --> 0:46:07.040
<v Speaker 3>That ship was kind of fucked up, But you've got

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:10.799
<v Speaker 3>the high basically, right, Yeah, extremely hot. That's what I

0:46:10.840 --> 0:46:12.480
<v Speaker 3>do at work every day, and that's what I actually

0:46:12.480 --> 0:46:13.160
<v Speaker 3>can't talk about.

0:46:13.239 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 2>Come under Ina and ship.

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:18.560
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, no, I basically just inject mice with wheat.

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:21.279
<v Speaker 3>That's my daily job. I listened to your podcast a

0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 3>lot doing that. So you have been listened to while

0:46:25.880 --> 0:46:30.080
<v Speaker 3>injecting mice with h with not HIV with THHC. So

0:46:30.160 --> 0:46:32.560
<v Speaker 3>I hope that makes you feel great.

0:46:32.800 --> 0:46:35.120
<v Speaker 1>Do you do you inject them with HIV or does

0:46:35.160 --> 0:46:36.880
<v Speaker 1>somebody else do that? And then you come in and

0:46:36.920 --> 0:46:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you're like good uncle, You're like the cool and the

0:46:39.600 --> 0:46:40.240
<v Speaker 1>other person.

0:46:40.080 --> 0:46:45.520
<v Speaker 3>Is complicated, complicated like topic, but it's actually through the

0:46:45.520 --> 0:46:49.440
<v Speaker 3>food that they ingest. It changes gene like codes and stuff.

0:46:50.440 --> 0:46:52.480
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, no, I'm the good uncle. I'm not the dick.

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:54.279
<v Speaker 3>I take care of like get them highest ship and

0:46:54.280 --> 0:46:56.280
<v Speaker 3>make sure that they are so you feed.

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Them like an AIDS hamburger and they get HIV.

0:47:01.000 --> 0:47:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Literally, Yeah, it's basically like a pizza pizza AIDS like

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:05.799
<v Speaker 3>hamburger mash up type thing.

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:06.960
<v Speaker 1>That's fucked up.

0:47:06.960 --> 0:47:10.520
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy, Yeah it is, But we don't actually do

0:47:10.600 --> 0:47:14.480
<v Speaker 3>that ourselves in the lab. We get that like from

0:47:15.320 --> 0:47:18.440
<v Speaker 3>from the actual place where like the mice come from.

0:47:18.520 --> 0:47:22.520
<v Speaker 3>But anyway, that's not anything that really matters I work with.

0:47:24.000 --> 0:47:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, let me, I have a couple more questions about it.

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 1>So if I ate this AIDS burger that you give

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to these mice, would I get HIV?

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:39.640
<v Speaker 3>Though? No, because of the genetic code however, and this

0:47:39.719 --> 0:47:42.600
<v Speaker 3>is actually one of the fucked up things my mentor

0:47:42.880 --> 0:47:46.440
<v Speaker 3>asked me. But instead of doing that, you actually just

0:47:46.480 --> 0:47:50.239
<v Speaker 3>come infertile. But it doesn't change your gene code to

0:47:50.280 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 3>the point where you get HIV, but you if you

0:47:52.960 --> 0:47:57.400
<v Speaker 3>eat it, you just come become sterile. Like yeah, so

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:00.560
<v Speaker 3>not the best. Yeah, I mean, I actually don't know

0:48:00.600 --> 0:48:02.839
<v Speaker 3>that science. I'm not gonna act like I do. I'm

0:48:02.840 --> 0:48:05.280
<v Speaker 3>gonna be I'm gonna be like you and actually admit

0:48:05.360 --> 0:48:06.280
<v Speaker 3>that I don't know something.

0:48:06.920 --> 0:48:10.640
<v Speaker 1>Isn't it kind of crazy that there's a whole like

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:16.400
<v Speaker 1>we're such apex predators that we've decided it's totally cool

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to just round up another animal and give it HIV.

0:48:22.880 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 3>Dude, it is so fucked I mean yeah, and for

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:28.000
<v Speaker 3>for research purposes too, and then you just like give

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 3>it something that's illegal and like the majority of the

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.879
<v Speaker 3>states and then arrest people for that too. But let's

0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:37.440
<v Speaker 3>neither here there. It's just fucked up. We're we're super

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 3>super weird if you actually think about it. But I

0:48:39.640 --> 0:48:41.359
<v Speaker 3>don't like to think about it because then I start

0:48:41.400 --> 0:48:44.799
<v Speaker 3>thinking about like everything else. I'm also higher shit now,

0:48:44.920 --> 0:48:47.200
<v Speaker 3>so you are always gonna like overthink.

0:48:47.320 --> 0:48:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so I wanted to talk about this because yeah,

0:48:51.360 --> 0:48:56.080
<v Speaker 1>so I I'm a I'm a daily pot smoker. Not

0:48:56.280 --> 0:48:58.239
<v Speaker 1>every time I'm on the podcast. Now, people are gonna

0:48:58.239 --> 0:48:59.640
<v Speaker 1>think I'm high all the time. I'm not high all

0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the time. I mean I'm not higher.

0:49:01.480 --> 0:49:02.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean I know I'm not high all.

0:49:02.640 --> 0:49:06.759
<v Speaker 1>The time when I am recording this podcast.

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:07.560
<v Speaker 3>Definitely.

0:49:07.640 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I've recorded two hundred and fifty something episodes of this podcast.

0:49:11.200 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I've maybe been high for one of them.

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 3>All right, I've listened to every single one of them.

0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:19.719
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's crazy, that's graaz okay anyway, But I

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:21.080
<v Speaker 1>get high every day and I don't even I don't

0:49:21.080 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 1>think about it anymore. So like I don't think about

0:49:24.680 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>is this bad for me? Am I gonna, you know,

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:32.760
<v Speaker 1>when I'm forty, Am I gonna not know my dad's

0:49:33.040 --> 0:49:36.120
<v Speaker 1>name anymore? Like? What what is it? Actually? What is

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:37.160
<v Speaker 1>it doing? Am I fucked?

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:39.840
<v Speaker 3>No, You're not fucked at all. I mean I'm a

0:49:39.920 --> 0:49:43.360
<v Speaker 3>daily I'm a daily user as well. Yeah, I'm a

0:49:43.440 --> 0:49:45.760
<v Speaker 3>daily user. No, you're not gonna be fucked or anything.

0:49:45.800 --> 0:49:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And I actually don't do human science, and the science

0:49:49.880 --> 0:49:54.000
<v Speaker 3>that everybody does can't actually translate to humans. So I

0:49:54.000 --> 0:49:56.080
<v Speaker 3>don't have a true answer for you, even though I

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:59.440
<v Speaker 3>do study it, but just from what I have seen,

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 3>because I also looked at it, because I mean, I

0:50:01.719 --> 0:50:06.600
<v Speaker 3>smoke a lot, and it's there's nothing that's gonna negatively

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:09.160
<v Speaker 3>impact you unless you are getting to the point where

0:50:09.160 --> 0:50:12.880
<v Speaker 3>you have chs where you're like throwing up when you smoke,

0:50:12.960 --> 0:50:15.319
<v Speaker 3>and you if you don't have if you if you're

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 3>not doing that, you don't have it. Some people have

0:50:17.920 --> 0:50:22.680
<v Speaker 3>mentioned it throughout the podcast, but so CHS is really

0:50:22.680 --> 0:50:25.920
<v Speaker 3>what will stop? Make you stop? And then if you

0:50:25.960 --> 0:50:30.120
<v Speaker 3>ever have any start, like type of psychosis or anything,

0:50:30.320 --> 0:50:34.480
<v Speaker 3>obviously stop. But like it's basically just like cracking your joints.

0:50:34.560 --> 0:50:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Like if you crack your joints and it starts to hurt, stop,

0:50:38.560 --> 0:50:41.240
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna get arthritis. But it's not actually gonna cause

0:50:41.280 --> 0:50:44.880
<v Speaker 3>it so in reference, and I can't really tell you

0:50:44.920 --> 0:50:46.239
<v Speaker 3>if you're gonna be fine or not because I don't

0:50:46.239 --> 0:50:48.080
<v Speaker 3>fucking know that. I don't know you. I just listened

0:50:48.080 --> 0:50:51.480
<v Speaker 3>to you on a phone, right, But like for the

0:50:51.600 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 3>majority of people, and I'll put you in that category,

0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:57.520
<v Speaker 3>you'll be perfectly fine. It's legal for a reason, it

0:50:57.600 --> 0:51:00.319
<v Speaker 3>shouldn't be illegal in some states. And so that type

0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 3>of thing makes people feel like you won't know your

0:51:03.160 --> 0:51:05.719
<v Speaker 3>fucking dad's name when you're fifty years old, but like

0:51:06.200 --> 0:51:08.480
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna be completely fine. There's people have been doing

0:51:08.480 --> 0:51:10.799
<v Speaker 3>it for way longer than you have, And I mean,

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:13.799
<v Speaker 3>you got to think about it. We're the most like

0:51:14.040 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 3>sober generation that's ever been around. We could literally smoke

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:21.440
<v Speaker 3>an opium matter of like fucking pipes. Like we're perfectly

0:51:21.480 --> 0:51:24.359
<v Speaker 3>fine hitting a little pin like every day. It's not

0:51:24.360 --> 0:51:27.760
<v Speaker 3>that big of a deal. But like anyway, you'll be fine.

0:51:27.880 --> 0:51:28.680
<v Speaker 3>It's not a big deal.

0:51:29.600 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 1>You know what. I'm gonna record every single podcast from

0:51:32.920 --> 0:51:37.359
<v Speaker 1>this episode moving forward completely stoned because you said that.

0:51:37.440 --> 0:51:40.480
<v Speaker 3>Just now, I hope. So, yeah, that's great. I mean,

0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:41.920
<v Speaker 3>your your content's pretty good.

0:51:41.920 --> 0:51:44.000
<v Speaker 1>When you're fucking I'm not actually gonna do that. I'm

0:51:44.160 --> 0:51:45.799
<v Speaker 1>just joking that at all.

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:47.920
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's not a big deal.

0:51:48.000 --> 0:51:50.000
<v Speaker 1>Well don't. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:52.239
<v Speaker 1>be honest with you. I don't believe you entirely because

0:51:52.239 --> 0:51:55.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't. There's I'm I have this little vape pen

0:51:56.000 --> 0:52:02.520
<v Speaker 1>that's Cremberlay flavored, and you're not. You can't just inhale

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:09.400
<v Speaker 1>crembrewlay artificial flavoring into your lungs and get away scott free.

0:52:09.400 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 1>There's no way. There's no consequences.

0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:17.280
<v Speaker 3>To now now Lyle, now Lyle, you're just asking about THHC.

0:52:17.880 --> 0:52:21.960
<v Speaker 3>I studied THHC. I study the actual effect of the cannabis.

0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:26.319
<v Speaker 3>I don't study what is in your fucking Cranberlay eight pen.

0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:28.799
<v Speaker 3>And I don't and honestly, I don't know. That's why

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.200
<v Speaker 3>I stay away from certain things. I see it in

0:52:31.200 --> 0:52:34.040
<v Speaker 3>the lab and I know that it can be fucked up.

0:52:34.640 --> 0:52:38.920
<v Speaker 3>But the actual thing that I was more so saying

0:52:38.920 --> 0:52:42.480
<v Speaker 3>as the THHC. Of course you're probably building you're taking

0:52:42.520 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 3>that shit in your lungs because it's adding to your

0:52:44.600 --> 0:52:47.520
<v Speaker 3>mucus layer. You're gonna inhale it. That could be bad

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.920
<v Speaker 3>for you. But in terms of the THHG, where I

0:52:49.960 --> 0:52:53.200
<v Speaker 3>actually specialize, there's no problems there. I mean, if you

0:52:53.280 --> 0:52:57.480
<v Speaker 3>started smoking five bnths a day, obviously you're gonna start

0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:00.839
<v Speaker 3>coughing more often because you're inhaling stuff for the pen,

0:53:01.000 --> 0:53:03.759
<v Speaker 3>you're gonna have more of that. But to like, for

0:53:03.960 --> 0:53:07.440
<v Speaker 3>my more focus is the HD and that's where you're

0:53:07.480 --> 0:53:09.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna be okay, okay, all right.

0:53:09.920 --> 0:53:12.040
<v Speaker 1>I guess that makes sense why people eat it instead

0:53:12.040 --> 0:53:20.279
<v Speaker 1>of yeah.

0:53:13.480 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly ended up eating. It's a little different too,

0:53:20.320 --> 0:53:23.640
<v Speaker 3>because it just changes. It changes how it develops in

0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 3>your just like entire system in your cannabinoid system with

0:53:27.120 --> 0:53:29.880
<v Speaker 3>the receptors in your body. And that's why that's why

0:53:29.920 --> 0:53:32.239
<v Speaker 3>there's more people that it's say it's stronger when you

0:53:32.280 --> 0:53:36.120
<v Speaker 3>eat an edible, but it's because it just works in

0:53:36.120 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 3>different ways. But oh, there is something I did want

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.160
<v Speaker 3>to tell you, if you don't mind.

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:43.919
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, sure, all right.

0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:45.000
<v Speaker 2>So I was.

0:53:45.000 --> 0:53:50.440
<v Speaker 3>At your North Carolina Charlotte show right after so after

0:53:50.520 --> 0:53:55.040
<v Speaker 3>you took down the prompts and like all that ship

0:53:55.120 --> 0:53:57.560
<v Speaker 3>and I texted in afters I was scared. I was

0:53:57.600 --> 0:53:59.920
<v Speaker 3>nervous to get up because I was high as fucked.

0:54:00.160 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I was nervous to talk to you. So I didn't

0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:04.040
<v Speaker 3>send it in until you came out on stage, and

0:54:04.080 --> 0:54:08.120
<v Speaker 3>I didn't realize that you uh or you wrote them

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:11.400
<v Speaker 3>down before the show and then came out to do them.

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Did you did you see any of the ones that

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:15.800
<v Speaker 3>were sent or do you just completely just like trash

0:54:15.840 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 3>the rest of them?

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:20.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I probably I probably saw your message at some point.

0:54:20.640 --> 0:54:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I wanted to tell you. So I am

0:54:24.160 --> 0:54:29.920
<v Speaker 3>a behavioral neuroscientist. Okay, I wanted to tell you about

0:54:30.000 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 3>one time I conditioned myself to get horny when I

0:54:36.719 --> 0:54:47.640
<v Speaker 3>smelled microwavable pot pie in middle school. Conditioned myself absolutely

0:54:47.680 --> 0:54:49.920
<v Speaker 3>fucking not. It was on accident. I was a little

0:54:49.960 --> 0:54:54.360
<v Speaker 3>fat ass kid that loved those little whatever pot pies

0:54:54.400 --> 0:54:56.680
<v Speaker 3>lit little green box whatever. They were delicious. I was

0:54:56.680 --> 0:55:00.880
<v Speaker 3>a little fat child, and every time that I would

0:55:00.920 --> 0:55:04.640
<v Speaker 3>make those in the microwave, I would beat my dick

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:08.920
<v Speaker 3>smelling the pop pies. And then I realized that it

0:55:09.000 --> 0:55:12.600
<v Speaker 3>was a problem when someone in my family made a

0:55:12.680 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 3>pop pie at one point and I smelled it, and

0:55:16.239 --> 0:55:18.040
<v Speaker 3>I was instantly horny, and I.

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:19.120
<v Speaker 2>Had a problem.

0:55:19.560 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 3>And I somehow took that experience and became a behavioralist neuroscientist.

0:55:28.080 --> 0:55:30.320
<v Speaker 1>This is what inspired your entire career.

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Yes, because I was literally classically conditioned, and I was

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:43.520
<v Speaker 3>classically conditioned to get hard when I smelled microwavable pop pie.

0:55:43.640 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 3>And then I looked into it and I was like,

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 3>holy shit, And now I'm a neuroscientist.

0:55:57.719 --> 0:55:58.799
<v Speaker 1>What kind of pot pie?

0:56:00.920 --> 0:56:03.000
<v Speaker 3>What the fuck is? It's the green It's the great

0:56:03.320 --> 0:56:04.640
<v Speaker 3>If you ate it when you were a kid, you

0:56:04.640 --> 0:56:07.480
<v Speaker 3>want to know either the fucking green box pop pie.

0:56:07.520 --> 0:56:09.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, it's chat, just cant know where the

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 3>fuck it is. Uh, what would it be? I don't know.

0:56:13.160 --> 0:56:16.080
<v Speaker 3>It was the it's like a woman's name. It's green

0:56:16.160 --> 0:56:20.759
<v Speaker 3>box pot pie, fucking delicious. Probably probably the thing that kills.

0:56:20.520 --> 0:56:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Me, not the THHD.

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:27.680
<v Speaker 1>And to this day, when you smell pop pie, do

0:56:27.800 --> 0:56:28.840
<v Speaker 1>you still get hard?

0:56:30.320 --> 0:56:35.759
<v Speaker 3>No, Because in classical conditioning, after a certain amount of

0:56:35.800 --> 0:56:40.520
<v Speaker 3>time either getting hard and not smelling the stimulus of

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:45.279
<v Speaker 3>pot pie, you have extinction period where you where you

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:50.800
<v Speaker 3>lose that learning like ability, so you learn, you lose

0:56:50.880 --> 0:56:56.680
<v Speaker 3>the stimulus, which in turn extincts the actual behavior itself.

0:56:57.080 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 3>So I no longer get hard. And I tested too

0:57:00.239 --> 0:57:04.440
<v Speaker 3>because I was honestly curious, and I no longer do it,

0:57:04.480 --> 0:57:07.319
<v Speaker 3>So I'm not fucked up that fucked up anymore. I

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:09.560
<v Speaker 3>had to fix myself. I'm still flow fucked up.

0:57:09.600 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 1>But you really are a scientist.

0:57:13.880 --> 0:57:14.480
<v Speaker 2>Exactly.

0:57:14.560 --> 0:57:17.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And I thought it would be cool to talk

0:57:17.320 --> 0:57:19.120
<v Speaker 3>to you about the thing you do all the time

0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:20.960
<v Speaker 3>and tell you you're probably gonna die in the next

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:23.760
<v Speaker 3>couple of days. But who fucking knows?

0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:29.480
<v Speaker 1>How did you? How did you decondition yourself from getting

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:32.680
<v Speaker 1>horny from these pies by not so.

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 3>By getting horny without the smell of pop pie, which

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 3>is the stimulus. So when you take away the stimulus,

0:57:41.400 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 3>which is the smell of pop pies and repeatedly get

0:57:45.360 --> 0:57:49.280
<v Speaker 3>horny for a X number of years, it slowly dwindles away.

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 3>So when I stopped eating those pop pies and I said, hey,

0:57:52.560 --> 0:57:54.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm actually gonna go for a run. I'm a fat fuck.

0:57:55.760 --> 0:57:57.720
<v Speaker 3>I was like, all right, and I got a little

0:57:57.760 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 3>bit better. And this is like when I was in

0:57:58.920 --> 0:58:01.560
<v Speaker 3>middle school. So I stopped doing all that shit and

0:58:01.640 --> 0:58:04.080
<v Speaker 3>I realized I probably need to eat a little healthier now.

0:58:04.080 --> 0:58:07.080
<v Speaker 3>Almost fucking fat ass again, I mean, but.

0:58:07.240 --> 0:58:10.040
<v Speaker 1>Whatever, it's cool. Look gets you.

0:58:10.000 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 3>Home down listening to your streams. Yeah, I'm just sitting

0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:21.800
<v Speaker 3>a fucking edge. Yeah no, I'm actually kidding. My girlfriend

0:58:21.800 --> 0:58:23.240
<v Speaker 3>gives me pretty pretty alright.

0:58:23.280 --> 0:58:24.520
<v Speaker 1>But what's your name again?

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:27.520
<v Speaker 3>My name is James.

0:58:28.360 --> 0:58:33.320
<v Speaker 1>James. James is good talking to you about most of

0:58:33.360 --> 0:58:35.320
<v Speaker 1>this stuff. Is there anything else you want to say

0:58:35.360 --> 0:58:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to the people of the computer before we go?

0:58:38.880 --> 0:58:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I want to say I really like those lamps

0:58:43.880 --> 0:58:47.080
<v Speaker 3>that you can fucking like change like the elis with

0:58:47.160 --> 0:58:50.240
<v Speaker 3>your phone. I just think that they're really fucking cool

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.160
<v Speaker 3>because I just play with them like when I'm super

0:58:53.280 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 3>high and just watch them change colors. That's it.

0:58:57.840 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>Enjoy the rest of your life, man, and you'll be

0:58:59.800 --> 0:59:01.200
<v Speaker 1>You even need many tell you to do that.

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 3>Hey YouTube, bro, keep smoking. Maybe you'll die soon? What

0:59:06.160 --> 0:59:06.720
<v Speaker 3>maybe later?

0:59:06.920 --> 0:59:07.000
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 3>One knows.

0:59:07.520 --> 0:59:08.240
<v Speaker 2>Have a good life.

0:59:08.680 --> 0:59:14.360
<v Speaker 1>Take care, Brody, Hey bye, get I think I want

0:59:14.360 --> 0:59:18.760
<v Speaker 1>to go make myself a Piepcon.

0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:20.400
<v Speaker 2>Goes on the line making your phone calls every night.

0:59:20.760 --> 0:59:22.640
<v Speaker 2>The Beacon goes doing his eye.

0:59:22.800 --> 0:59:24.920
<v Speaker 1>He's teaching you aloud in the mid of your life,

0:59:25.280 --> 0:59:27.400
<v Speaker 1>but he's not really an expert.