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Speaker 2: Hey, hmm, I just got back from work.

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Speaker 1: What do you do for work?

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Speaker 2: I basically sick. So you know how every school kid

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Speaker 2: has a chromebook? I fixed those.

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Speaker 1: Oh that's nice our kids do. Do you ever see

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Speaker 1: like kids like going on porn hub and ship?

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Speaker 2: I mean, of course I've never seen it myself because

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Speaker 2: I work, sorry, and this is a bit nervous. So

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Speaker 2: I work like in the back office where we just

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Speaker 2: get like a bunch of bunch of broken ship and

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Speaker 2: I'll see on the notes it'll say that the kid

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Speaker 2: was on a movie site where the kid was watching porn.

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Speaker 1: That's crazy. Do they get do you like, like, have

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Speaker 1: you ever like seen like like you check the history

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Speaker 1: of the chromebook and it's a bunch of porn? Like

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Speaker 1: do you ever rat the kid out?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Of course, Uh, it's kind of tempting, but I

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Speaker 2: don't really because I don't want to know what the

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Speaker 1: That is weird. I agree with that. It's better to

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Speaker 1: that's the kind of thing that you want to just

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Speaker 1: remove from your brain entirely and not deal with. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A mod is am I saying that? Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Mod? I mean.

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Speaker 1: You said. Here's what you texted me. You said, my

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Speaker 1: name is a mod I'm twenty years old. I want

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Speaker 1: to talk about how I immigrated to America ten years

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Speaker 1: ago from Pakistan. And you also added this, You said,

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Speaker 1: I also still sleep with my mom parentheses. You added

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Speaker 1: What's up? Tell me?

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Speaker 2: More so, do you want to know about the immigration

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Speaker 2: part or the mom part?

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Speaker 1: Are they related in any way shape or for him?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I guess a little bit, because you know

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Speaker 2: how in Southeasian culture, families are like really close together. Sure,

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Speaker 2: yeah so, but that's not really the reason. I guess.

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Speaker 2: The reason is basically, my mom has schizophrenia, so she'll

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Speaker 2: have like involuntary movements and whatnot. So I do still

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Speaker 2: sleep with her on the same bed if you can imagine, Oh, so.

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Speaker 1: You sleep with her in the same bed, yeah, like

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Speaker 1: help her out with the queen in voluntary movements.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, it's not like crazy. She's basically a

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Speaker 1: M do you sleep with in the same bed, like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I mean sometimes he will just like I

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Speaker 2: I don't know, So that's why.

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Speaker 1: How often do you need to help her?

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Speaker 2: I mean, as I said, it's mostly a normal person.

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Speaker 2: To be honest, that'll have to like once a month

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Speaker 1: You sleep in the bed with her every night?

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Speaker 2: Every night? Do?

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Speaker 1: I'm curious? What's up with your dad? Is he not

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Speaker 2: Well, my dad sleeps. It's so it's a queen size

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Speaker 1: So wait, let me get this straight. I'm it's a

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Speaker 1: You sleep on a mattress. But you said you sleep

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Speaker 2: That's that's my dad. So I sleep in between my

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Speaker 1: Okay, so there's a okay, so there's a mattress on

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Speaker 2: Well, it's so we don't even have like a bed bed.

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Speaker 2: It's just like a frame. I don't know if you

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Speaker 2: So we just put the mattress on that. So we're

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Speaker 1: So you put so you I'm still I'm gonna get

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. So first, first of all, uh, actually I

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Speaker 1: But why are you can your dad not help?

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Speaker 2: Okay? So my dad he basically works like a very

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Speaker 1: So that's why, Okay, do you does your mom need

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Speaker 1: Are you not able to like be in like room?

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Speaker 2: Even to be honest, it's it's not even that, Like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm just I'm ever since i've been

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Speaker 2: But I mean I have siblings that have their own rooms,

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Speaker 1: Now your siblings do they are they all in they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so we have a three bed apartment. I have

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Speaker 1: Do you leave, Like, okay, let me ask you this. So,

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Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not like, I'm not. I'm just

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Speaker 2: I guess. So most like nine of the time, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Okay, but mostly you are right, So let's get into this. Okay. Now,

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Speaker 2: So, I mean, I honestly don't even think about her

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Speaker 2: I'm there for her, you know, in case something triggers her.

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Speaker 1: Okay mmmm, and you're you're twenty right, yeah, okay, No, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I don't say that, but I don't say

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Speaker 2: I just don't, but I do. I don't blame you.

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Speaker 2: It is kind of weird that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I'm not. I'm making no judges about it.

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Speaker 1: But I want to understand. Do you do you do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's totally before. I'm doing an internship actually at

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Speaker 1: Oh right, right, you totally. You told me all that,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a normal guy outside of this.

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Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not I'm not saying that you're I'm

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Of course, as as I told you, this was

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Speaker 1: Do you do you have do you have like friends?

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Speaker 2: Of course, dude, I have I don't know, I have

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Speaker 1: And you you've you this, You've kind of kept this

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yep, why are you I don't know, we

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Speaker 1: I don't know that's true because I guess my I

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there you go. And even I did, to be honest,

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Speaker 1: Hmm. Okay, So why tell me why you feel compelled

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Speaker 2: So, I mean recently, so at this college INMNT, they

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Speaker 2: So I recently started that, just I don't know when,

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Speaker 2: because I saw I was threading and it was on campus,

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Speaker 2: and after that, I was been thinking about my life,

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Speaker 2: like as myself individually, and I realized, just upon reflection,

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Speaker 1: So that's an interesting thing. That you're touching goon Like culturally,

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Speaker 1: where you come from and what you understand is very

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Speaker 1: like communal, family oriented, and it's kind of been that

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Speaker 1: What you want is that? Is that accurate?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Exactly.

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Speaker 2: But I'm talking to a real therapist about that.

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Speaker 1: Tell tell them, well, tell me about immigrating here.

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Speaker 4: And I know I've talked to a lot of people

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Speaker 2: Exactly. That that is where it starts.

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Speaker 2: But overall, I will say I'm so grateful for event because,

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Speaker 1: Interesting? Okay, So how does how does life in America

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Speaker 2: That's like culture. It's weird because Muslim countries they like

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Speaker 1: Huh wait, So so what I'm hearing is that is

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Speaker 2: Exactly. That is exactly. That's that's one thing good I

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Speaker 1: Very very interesting to hear that. So people in in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like when I was in fourth grade, dude, I

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Speaker 1: That's so funny. Hmmm. So so wait, so you're allowed.

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Speaker 2: If you would have if you would have as an American,

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Speaker 1: So I don't know, do you think that, like, well,

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Speaker 1: the reasoning why you you're sleeping in your mom's bed

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Speaker 2: Do exactly hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 1: That's fascinating. Okay, anything else that you've you've noticed from

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Speaker 2: Specifically my buddy's on Facebook, I've noticed that, uh, let's see,

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Speaker 2: It's kind of impossible to make it just through hard work. There,

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Speaker 1: Mhm. So you really so it is true that there's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd one hundred percent, like even though of course

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Speaker 1: So your homies that are all like your age, now,

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Speaker 2: Dude? They're sick, yes, trying to be a photographer. You know,

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Speaker 2: they're in that phase. You know how people have that

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Speaker 2: Well? I don't. I don't think specific a Taksana specific

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Speaker 1: What's your version of that? What do you uh want

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Speaker 2: I I'll be honest, I don't even have like a

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Speaker 1: So going back to your discovery of your individual or

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Speaker 2: It's this good situation I would say, no, dude, Like

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Speaker 1: Mm hmmm mm hmm. What about your What about your dad?

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Speaker 1: Does he snore?

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm actually a pretty deep sleeper, I guess I

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Speaker 1: What's your relationship like with your dad?

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Speaker 2: Well, he's kind of like a regular Middle Eastern dad.

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Speaker 2: It's arranged marriage. Like you're not even allowed to date

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Speaker 1: Well, now you're now now you're in the land of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the debating scene. I mean, I've just been looking

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Speaker 1: Scene, is so, I mean, is the plan for there

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Speaker 2: Or well, I mean for me? Okay, so my brothers

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Speaker 1: How does can you explain a little bit of how

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Speaker 2: If you know, somebody let me know. Hey, I'm trying

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Speaker 1: of like part of you does think like you knows

436
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:06,479
Speaker 1: as like you know, with all the with all the

437
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: infinite cons that could come with with arranged marriage, there

438
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 1: is the big pro of like, well, that's a giant

439
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: quest in life that I don't have to think about anymore.

440
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: You know, it's a giant challenge to navigate your romantic

441
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: sexual life, and so maybe there is something appealing about

442
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: having someone just fucking up and decide it for you.

443
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Speaker 1: So I want to hear your your kind of personal

444
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: opinion on it.

445
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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, as I sayd dude, I'm kind of

446
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 2: the same way as you. Like if I'm just kind

447
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,400
Speaker 2: of living my life like with me and that's it.

448
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 2: I'm not really looking out for anything. But if it's

449
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: like during college, if something comes up and you know,

450
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 2: the relationship, the dating scene gets serious, you know, I

451
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 2: might hop into it. But if not, you know, I

452
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: always have that backup, you know, the peaceful mind, you

453
00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 2: know the arrange folks. I mean, then I will do

454
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,959
Speaker 2: have the arrange marriage options.

455
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 1: So you're telling me that you're one just really bad

456
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 1: day away from being like fuck it, Like that's always

457
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: in your bad public, it's always in your back pocket,

458
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: Like you'll give it, You'll give day to try, and

459
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work out, you'll go to your auntie.

460
00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, well the reason. But as I said, I'm

461
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 2: not really going out for dating. It's like I'm just

462
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: me and if somebody comes up in my life where

463
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, this could get a romantic because then

464
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Speaker 2: I'll go into it. It's not like I'm speaking in

465
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 2: my current state.

466
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Speaker 1: Sure sure, sure sure? Did you ever have you, like

467
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: have a girlfriend in high school or or or a crush.

468
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Speaker 5: Or That's one of the like things, uh that I've

469
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 5: always thought about and thinking like should I have?

470
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Speaker 2: But I've never. I've never. The only thing is that,

471
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: in like middle school, a girl asked me out and

472
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Speaker 2: I just kind of rejected her kindly. I was like, oh, no,

473
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 2: you're cute, but I just don't want to date. And

474
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: that was pretty much it. In high school that they

475
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: really came up.

476
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Speaker 1: M hmm. What about what about career wise? What do

477
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,159
Speaker 1: you what do you hope for?

478
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,880
Speaker 2: So? I mean I started off like looking and working

479
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 2: at the local grocery store or whatever during high school

480
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,400
Speaker 2: and now I'm in college, so I got an internship

481
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Speaker 2: and I see, as you said, I mean, as I

482
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:40,000
Speaker 2: said before h and after graduating, dude, as I said,

483
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 2: I just want to kind of get a government job

484
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 2: or something of that sort where I can just like

485
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Speaker 2: do a tenure there for like twenty thirty years.

486
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Speaker 1: Do you think you'll ever go back to Pakistan? Like

487
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: I assume not to live But you know, just to say,

488
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: of course, I've.

489
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Speaker 2: Been there a couple of times. I was just there

490
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 2: like two years ago. Dude, my family is still It's

491
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 2: not like uh so my family like just my immediate family,

492
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 2: my brother's and mom. We moved here as a whole,

493
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 2: but like my arrest of the family is still in Pakistan.

494
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Speaker 1: Dude.

495
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 2: We go there like every couple of years.

496
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Speaker 1: Would you reckon? I? You know, I I have this

497
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: dream of like doing my little gecko interviews. I do,

498
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, in addition to the phone call stuff I

499
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 1: do like on the street interviews and stuff.

500
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: And I watch all your stuff.

501
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: Come on, Oh hell yeah, Okay, So how would you like,

502
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: do you think I should go to Pakistan to do it?

503
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: How how do you think that would go over?

504
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: I do I think you should? If you go, though,

505
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: I would recommend uh. I mean, Pakistan is a pretty

506
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 2: good English speaking country, but I would recommend you go

507
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: to like the college campus or something there. You'll find

508
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 2: like a bunch of you know, young people from because

509
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 2: Pakistan is weird, dude, Like some parts are super conservative

510
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 2: and they're still into like cousin marriages and all that stuff.

511
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: And in some parts of like we're liberated. So I'll

512
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: go to a college campus. You'll be safe, dude, and

513
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 2: you'll have a bunch of you know, like a wide

514
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 2: spectrum of people with you, and they'll all speak English,

515
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: probably because they're going to college campus.

516
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: What's the other what's the other major language spoken there?

517
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Speaker 2: It's Urzu. So it's basically like Pakistan and India were one,

518
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 2: like like one hundred years ago or whatever, and now

519
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 2: so order is basically the same language as Hindy. But

520
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: in fact, Senate's uzum.

521
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Speaker 1: Okay, if I ever go there, all right, if I

522
00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 1: ever go there, I might hit you up. I actually

523
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: got a DM, I was. I don't know how many

524
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:43,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how many people in Pakistan listen to

525
00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: this show, but I got a DM once from somebody saying, Hey,

526
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: I live in Pakistan, let me know if you ever

527
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: want to come and I'll show you around. And I was.

528
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,000
Speaker 1: I wasn't in a position to just to just like,

529
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, I was like in the middle of touring

530
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: or whatever, so I wasn't in a position to just like, yeah,

531
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: say fucking and go. But I'm getting into a point

532
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: where I can kind of do stuff like that, and

533
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: so I might I might say fucking and go.

534
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: Who knows, dude, you gotta go. It's like, screw all

535
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: the gecko and whatever. Do it's just an amazing visit.

536
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, of course all.

537
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 2: The food is bombed. It's a spicy though, so.

538
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 1: Okay, you might see it being a gecko in Pakistan video.

539
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: I like to do. I'll do, like if I take

540
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: a trip like that, I'll do I'll do half lyle

541
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 1: half gecko time. But enough about me and my stupid life.

542
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: I want to know this before we go. What is

543
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,400
Speaker 1: your like? So you you have these two older brothers, Yeah,

544
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: do they think and feel similarly to you? On? On on,

545
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: you know the stuff that we've been talking about.

546
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, bro, Like they're kind of busy, like

547
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 2: in their own life. They have their own full time job.

548
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 2: I don't really have like deep conversations with any of

549
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 2: my immediate family, like, I'll be honest, m So, I'm

550
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: not even They just have full time jobs. They come

551
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: home and sleep.

552
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: Do you do you wish that you did have deeper

553
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: conversations with them?

554
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know, I'll be I don't know,

555
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 2: mm hmm. It is it is just kind of weird

556
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 2: because like, uh like when cleaning, like we're all in

557
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: one house and everybody's a grown adult, and because everybody's

558
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: been like babied into being a grown adults, like they

559
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: don't even like clean up after their own message and whatever,

560
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 2: So it's just a wild wild word.

561
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: Who's cleaning up around the house.

562
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Dude, it's me because my mom has as he can't,

563
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: my dad has a full time job, my brothers have

564
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: a full time job.

565
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: And you know, so you're but don't you but you

566
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: have a fucking full time job.

567
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: Now I have a part time job, and I'm a student.

568
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: And being a student in this culture, is this the

569
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: look that as doing nothing? So you I'm the youngest

570
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: in the house, so I'm just kind of automatically expected

571
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: to brush.

572
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 1: So you're twenty, you're you're working a part time job,

573
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: you're a student, you're sort of you're taking care of

574
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 1: your mom, and you're cleaning up after everyone in the house. Basically,

575
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 1: goddamn man.

576
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 2: Well, hey, as I said, though, it's miles better than

577
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: anything I would have lived in Pakistan.

578
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 5: So.

579
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: Deep respect, deep respect. What I mean, what is like

580
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 1: if you didn't have all these crazy responsibilities, Like what

581
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: would you like if you were to take some time

582
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: for yourself, what would it even look like? What would

583
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: you do?

584
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,440
Speaker 2: Dude? I don't even have like that any I guess

585
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 2: hobbies or shit like I just play video games on

586
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 2: my PC. And as I said of my gold in

587
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 2: life is too just kind of h be steady, like

588
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 2: I don't even want to do anything like I just

589
00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:29,759
Speaker 2: want to, you know, get a nine to five job

590
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 2: when I come home from work, play video games and

591
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: then go to sleep.

592
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: Are you happy with life right now?

593
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 2: Right now, dude, I'm super happy. It's just such a

594
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: privilege to to go to college and to have an internship.

595
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 2: Just oh man, it's amazing. It's a privilege to drive

596
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:54,320
Speaker 2: a car, dude. Like in Pakistan cars don't even nobody

597
00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 2: can afford one.

598
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 1: It's a good it's a good perspective you're walking around with. Man,

599
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: it really is. Well you know what, man, Look, I

600
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: know I know you feel like I'm gonna tell you

601
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 1: this a mint before we go. I know you feel

602
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: some sense of I don't know if it's embarrassment or

603
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 1: whatever about uh sleeping in your mom's bed. But but

604
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: but look, but look that aside, you're taking care of

605
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: four fucking people. Uh, and you're the youngest of them.

606
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: You're you're working your ass off, cleaning porn, off of

607
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: all these MacBooks, crumb books, whatever, you're you're studying. You're

608
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you're doing so much man, so like and

609
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: you're happy and you're you're you're doing it all. You're

610
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: doing it all also not you know, walking around every

611
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: day being like, oh my love sucks is so looking horror,

612
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: I have to do all this stuff. You're like grateful

613
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 1: to do it all. I mean, you're you're a walking

614
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: w man. So I hope you don't feel too I

615
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 1: don't know if ashamed is the word, but whatever, I

616
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: hope you. I hope you feel good about yourself and

617
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: good about life because you're really doing it in a

618
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 1: in a in an honest and noble way. And I

619
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for that. And I appreciate

620
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: you coming on here and and uh sharing this stuff

621
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 1: because I know it was uh, you know, hard to

622
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: do and that you haven't done it with anyone before.

623
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: So you know, thanks man, And it was it was

624
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: really good talking to you.

625
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 2: It was really good talking to you too. And just dude,

626
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 2: I love your stuff. I watch you every day on

627
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 2: my car ride to college. I mean, not watched, but listen.

628
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 2: So it's been a pleasure of being on here man.

629
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: So anything else you want to say to the people

630
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: of the computer before we.

631
00:36:54,920 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: Go, Uh, just the supportive of everybody.

632
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, beautiful, take care.

633
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,360
Speaker 2: Maud all right, thank you, get bye.

634
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: Damn. I love talking to that guy. That was cool.

635
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: Very interesting perspective, man, very interesting perspective. I don't know

636
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: if I have anything to say in these post call

637
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 1: thoughts that I didn't already say, but uh, it's very

638
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 1: cool to me that he's he's juggling all these things

639
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,919
Speaker 1: in his life with like no resentment at all. Right,

640
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: Like that's that is the crazy part to me, because

641
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I I hate doing anything. I complain all

642
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: the time about having to do anything, and and specifically

643
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: this like the other I had. I drove an hour

644
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: somewhere the other day and I was like so pissed

645
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: off and like I was stuck in traffic and I

646
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 1: was upset. I was like, I hate driving, I hate

647
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: having the drive. Driving sucks. I fucking hate this car.

648
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: I just was like pissed off and stewing, and then

649
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking to this guy who's like, you know, the

650
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: total opposite, like oh my like in bliss, like, oh

651
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: my god, it's such a privilege to be able to drive,

652
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: you know, and like that that that is is an

653
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: interesting perspective. I liked that guy's perspective on everything, and

654
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, even though he was again I don't know

655
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: if ashamed is the word. I don't want to put

656
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: emotions in this guy's mouth, but he felt he felt

657
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: the type of way about talking to people about the

658
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: fact that he sleeps in his mom's bed. But on

659
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: the same coin, when I asked him about it, his

660
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: personal feelings about it, uh were that it's not weird

661
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: that he actually wanted to do it because he doesn't

662
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: know how much time he'll have left with his mom.

663
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: None of us know how much time we'll have left

664
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: with the people that we care about in our lives,

665
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 1: and so it was something that he was happy about

666
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: and he felt good about, even if you know, other

667
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 1: people might look at it a different way. So I

668
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I thought that guy was awesome. I loved

669
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 1: talking to him, and I'm gonna try to do it.

670
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to go to Pakistan and talk to people,

671
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: if you while I'm here while people are listening. If

672
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 1: you live because this is something I want to do

673
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: a lot more of in the future. If you live

674
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: in like an interesting place. I've gotten dms from a

675
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 1: guy who actually a guy on the podcast who lived

676
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 1: in Kuwait. If you live in you know, I don't know,

677
00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to go to Vietnam. I'm gonna try

678
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: to go to Thailand. If you live in Alaska. If

679
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: you live in like a place that's not the United

680
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: States or Europe or Australia or Canada, because I've kind

681
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 1: of covered those places, you know, South America or or

682
00:39:55,480 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: or Africa or anywhere in Asia, and you I think

683
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: it would be a cool place to go interview people.

684
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: Let me know, send me a DM. I'm on the

685
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: hunt for more cool experiences like that, So hit me

686
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: up on Instagram at Lyle the number four ever and

687
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: I'll try to check those dms. But thank you, Ahmad,

688
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: appreciate it, and gek bless you. This guy better pick

689
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: up If we're gonna have a serious problem, He's not

690
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 1: gonna pick up.

691
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,320
Speaker 3: What's up, Lyle?

692
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: Oh shit, what's up?

693
00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:36,839
Speaker 3: Man?

694
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: How you doing?

695
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:38,959
Speaker 2: That's good?

696
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: Bro?

697
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: How are you.

698
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: I'm doing good. What's your name?

699
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 3: My name is James.

700
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: James. It says here that you're a neuroscientist that studies cannabis.

701
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I do have to preference this with I

702
00:40:55,600 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 3: work in research, so there's some stuff I cannot talk about. However, Yeah,

703
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,840
Speaker 3: it's it's pretty interesting stuff. A lot of.

704
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: People it's I mean, from the tone of your voice,

705
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 1: it sounds like you do a lot of first hand research.

706
00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: I am actually completely sober right now.

707
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: That was a really I said that in a very

708
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: I said that like fucking Bill Maher or something. I

709
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: feel embarrassed about.

710
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: Me. But I know you've been I know you've been

711
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,319
Speaker 3: smoking recently on your streams that you smoke tonight. I'm

712
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:28,720
Speaker 3: not watching.

713
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,759
Speaker 1: No, I haven't and I didn't smoke tonight, And I

714
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 1: don't know where you are hold on. Where did you

715
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,479
Speaker 1: get any of this information that you're saying right now?

716
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 3: Oh, you've been smoking on streams? You started talking about it.

717
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 3: I just listened to the podcast, like religiously.

718
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: When wait, when did I talk about When did I

719
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: talk about smoking on the stream?

720
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: Oh there was someone that you were you said something

721
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 3: about you were getting a little too therapisty and you

722
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,279
Speaker 3: are also kind of high. I forget who it was.

723
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: It was one of your recent streams.

724
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: I did say that I did that and I was

725
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: kind of high, and you're right, and I'm being defensive

726
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: right now and I'm not high right now. Here's my

727
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: thing is. I'll tell you this for I've been doing

728
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 1: this stream since June of twenty twenty. That's like over,

729
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 1: it's over three years, pretty crazy for like, And in

730
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: those three years, I maybe the first three years, I

731
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: maybe had been high on a live stream one or

732
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: two times, and I fucking hated it. It was really bad.

733
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: I felt perceived. I felt like I couldn't just like

734
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 1: cause just talk to rant and talk and not be

735
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: thinking so much about the words that are coming out

736
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 1: of your mouth and how they're being perceived and whatnot.

737
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: You can't be high because being high makes you paranoid,

738
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: or at least for me, it does. And so I

739
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: never did it. And then there was a time, I

740
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: want to say, a month or two ago, where I

741
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: just for I don't know, for whatever reason. I think

742
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: maybe I was really stressed leading up to a stream,

743
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, let me give this a try.

744
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: It'll maybe it'll mellow me out. And I had a

745
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: nice stream and so but I also thought to myself,

746
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, I do not want to make this a habit,

747
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 1: you know, because that that can only I don't think

748
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 1: that's a good habit to have. So now, you know,

749
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 1: like like this is what I sort of have been

750
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,880
Speaker 1: doing a little bit. Is like I'll stream for my

751
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 1: normal two hours and then maybe I'll take a little

752
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 1: rip of a pen and the whatever comes after that

753
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: as a total bonus. So like, you know, let me

754
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: get in a couple sover and that's like maybe once

755
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: a week. You know, I streamed two to three times

756
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: a week, and maybe for one of those streams, after

757
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: having done two hours, I'll take a little bit. But

758
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm not.

759
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: I'm not.

760
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: I don't want people to think I'm high all the

761
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,760
Speaker 1: time on my stream. You know. That's why I didn't.

762
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 1: That's why I made. I made. I made the mistake

763
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: of bringing Actually I'm not gonna say it was a mistake.

764
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: I don't take it back. I said that I was

765
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,760
Speaker 1: high to that guy, but I didn't want I didn't,

766
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: I hadn't. I was I was gonna not say anything

767
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:24,399
Speaker 1: because I didn't want people to think I was high

768
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: all the time. But I also don't like to lie,

769
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 1: you know, so I would just be honest. I don't

770
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: think there's anything wrong with being high a lot. But

771
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to talk to you, is because

772
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: that's wrong. There's probably a lot that's wrong with being

773
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: high all the time, and you would know the answer

774
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,600
Speaker 1: to those questions. So please, is it? Am I gonna

775
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 1: How long do I have to live? That's what I'm

776
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 1: That's what I'm really asking.

777
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: I mean, I listened to your podcast religiously. You could

778
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: die in the next five seconds. I mean, we don't

779
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,680
Speaker 3: fucking know. Like, no, I'm high right now.

780
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: I just hit my Okay, you fucking I asked you

781
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: if you were high right now, and you said you

782
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: were sober. You're lying.

783
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 3: While you were on that rant about how you don't

784
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 3: get high. I got my tin out of my room

785
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: and just smoked.

786
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 1: Nice. That's sick.

787
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, But yeah, so so neuroscience research. So I

788
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: actually was at the Silence Show and I wanted to

789
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 3: get on on stage to talk and it, uh, it

790
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 3: might not be exactly about this, but yeah, so like

791
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,879
Speaker 3: doing research with cannabis. I actually started it out at

792
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 3: my college in North Carolina, and we worked with HIV.

793
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 3: And you don't normally put HIV in cannabis together, right,

794
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't at first with you what

795
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: like HIV and cannabis, like using cannabis to help HIV patients.

796
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought you were talking about injecting HIV

797
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: into cannabis.

798
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:04,280
Speaker 3: Not exactly. However, we did kind of inject mice with HIV.

799
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 3: That ship was kind of fucked up, But you've got

800
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 3: the high basically, right, Yeah, extremely hot. That's what I

801
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 3: do at work every day, and that's what I actually

802
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 3: can't talk about.

803
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: Come under Ina and ship.

804
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I basically just inject mice with wheat.

805
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 3: That's my daily job. I listened to your podcast a

806
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 3: lot doing that. So you have been listened to while

807
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 3: injecting mice with h with not HIV with THHC. So

808
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 3: I hope that makes you feel great.

809
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: Do you do you inject them with HIV or does

810
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: somebody else do that? And then you come in and

811
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 1: you're like good uncle, You're like the cool and the

812
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 1: other person.

813
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: Is complicated, complicated like topic, but it's actually through the

814
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 3: food that they ingest. It changes gene like codes and stuff.

815
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, no, I'm the good uncle. I'm not the dick.

816
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 3: I take care of like get them highest ship and

817
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,280
Speaker 3: make sure that they are so you feed.

818
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 1: Them like an AIDS hamburger and they get HIV.

819
00:47:01,000 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 3: Literally, Yeah, it's basically like a pizza pizza AIDS like

820
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 3: hamburger mash up type thing.

821
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 1: That's fucked up.

822
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 3: That's crazy, Yeah it is, But we don't actually do

823
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 3: that ourselves in the lab. We get that like from

824
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 3: from the actual place where like the mice come from.

825
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: But anyway, that's not anything that really matters I work with.

826
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: Interesting, let me, I have a couple more questions about it.

827
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 1: So if I ate this AIDS burger that you give

828
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,800
Speaker 1: to these mice, would I get HIV?

829
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: Though? No, because of the genetic code however, and this

830
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 3: is actually one of the fucked up things my mentor

831
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 3: asked me. But instead of doing that, you actually just

832
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 3: come infertile. But it doesn't change your gene code to

833
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 3: the point where you get HIV, but you if you

834
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 3: eat it, you just come become sterile. Like yeah, so

835
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 3: not the best. Yeah, I mean, I actually don't know

836
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 3: that science. I'm not gonna act like I do. I'm

837
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,280
Speaker 3: gonna be I'm gonna be like you and actually admit

838
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 3: that I don't know something.

839
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: Isn't it kind of crazy that there's a whole like

840
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:16,400
Speaker 1: we're such apex predators that we've decided it's totally cool

841
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:21,640
Speaker 1: to just round up another animal and give it HIV.

842
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: Dude, it is so fucked I mean yeah, and for

843
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 3: for research purposes too, and then you just like give

844
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 3: it something that's illegal and like the majority of the

845
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,879
Speaker 3: states and then arrest people for that too. But let's

846
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 3: neither here there. It's just fucked up. We're we're super

847
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 3: super weird if you actually think about it. But I

848
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,359
Speaker 3: don't like to think about it because then I start

849
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: thinking about like everything else. I'm also higher shit now,

850
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 3: so you are always gonna like overthink.

851
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:51,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I wanted to talk about this because yeah,

852
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: so I I'm a I'm a daily pot smoker. Not

853
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: every time I'm on the podcast. Now, people are gonna

854
00:48:58,239 --> 00:48:59,640
Speaker 1: think I'm high all the time. I'm not high all

855
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: the time. I mean I'm not higher.

856
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 3: I mean I know I'm not high all.

857
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: The time when I am recording this podcast.

858
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 3: Definitely.

859
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: I've recorded two hundred and fifty something episodes of this podcast.

860
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: I've maybe been high for one of them.

861
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 3: All right, I've listened to every single one of them.

862
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's crazy, that's graaz okay anyway, But I

863
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,080
Speaker 1: get high every day and I don't even I don't

864
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: think about it anymore. So like I don't think about

865
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: is this bad for me? Am I gonna, you know,

866
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,760
Speaker 1: when I'm forty, Am I gonna not know my dad's

867
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 1: name anymore? Like? What what is it? Actually? What is

868
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: it doing? Am I fucked?

869
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 3: No, You're not fucked at all. I mean I'm a

870
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 3: daily I'm a daily user as well. Yeah, I'm a

871
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,760
Speaker 3: daily user. No, you're not gonna be fucked or anything.

872
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 3: And I actually don't do human science, and the science

873
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 3: that everybody does can't actually translate to humans. So I

874
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 3: don't have a true answer for you, even though I

875
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 3: do study it, but just from what I have seen,

876
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 3: because I also looked at it, because I mean, I

877
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 3: smoke a lot, and it's there's nothing that's gonna negatively

878
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 3: impact you unless you are getting to the point where

879
00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 3: you have chs where you're like throwing up when you smoke,

880
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 3: and you if you don't have if you if you're

881
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 3: not doing that, you don't have it. Some people have

882
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: mentioned it throughout the podcast, but so CHS is really

883
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 3: what will stop? Make you stop? And then if you

884
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 3: ever have any start, like type of psychosis or anything,

885
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 3: obviously stop. But like it's basically just like cracking your joints.

886
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:38,520
Speaker 3: Like if you crack your joints and it starts to hurt, stop,

887
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 3: you're gonna get arthritis. But it's not actually gonna cause

888
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 3: it so in reference, and I can't really tell you

889
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 3: if you're gonna be fine or not because I don't

890
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 3: fucking know that. I don't know you. I just listened

891
00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 3: to you on a phone, right, But like for the

892
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: majority of people, and I'll put you in that category,

893
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,520
Speaker 3: you'll be perfectly fine. It's legal for a reason, it

894
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 3: shouldn't be illegal in some states. And so that type

895
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 3: of thing makes people feel like you won't know your

896
00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: fucking dad's name when you're fifty years old, but like

897
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 3: you're gonna be completely fine. There's people have been doing

898
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: it for way longer than you have, And I mean,

899
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 3: you got to think about it. We're the most like

900
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 3: sober generation that's ever been around. We could literally smoke

901
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,440
Speaker 3: an opium matter of like fucking pipes. Like we're perfectly

902
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,359
Speaker 3: fine hitting a little pin like every day. It's not

903
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 3: that big of a deal. But like anyway, you'll be fine.

904
00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 3: It's not a big deal.

905
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: You know what. I'm gonna record every single podcast from

906
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:37,359
Speaker 1: this episode moving forward completely stoned because you said that.

907
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 3: Just now, I hope. So, yeah, that's great. I mean,

908
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: your your content's pretty good.

909
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: When you're fucking I'm not actually gonna do that. I'm

910
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: just joking that at all.

911
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 3: Yes, that's not a big deal.

912
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Well don't. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm gonna

913
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I don't believe you entirely because

914
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:55,439
Speaker 1: I don't. There's I'm I have this little vape pen

915
00:51:56,000 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: that's Cremberlay flavored, and you're not. You can't just inhale

916
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: crembrewlay artificial flavoring into your lungs and get away scott free.

917
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: There's no way. There's no consequences.

918
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 3: To now now Lyle, now Lyle, you're just asking about THHC.

919
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 3: I studied THHC. I study the actual effect of the cannabis.

920
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 3: I don't study what is in your fucking Cranberlay eight pen.

921
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 3: And I don't and honestly, I don't know. That's why

922
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 3: I stay away from certain things. I see it in

923
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 3: the lab and I know that it can be fucked up.

924
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,920
Speaker 3: But the actual thing that I was more so saying

925
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 3: as the THHC. Of course you're probably building you're taking

926
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 3: that shit in your lungs because it's adding to your

927
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 3: mucus layer. You're gonna inhale it. That could be bad

928
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: for you. But in terms of the THHG, where I

929
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:53,200
Speaker 3: actually specialize, there's no problems there. I mean, if you

930
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 3: started smoking five bnths a day, obviously you're gonna start

931
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 3: coughing more often because you're inhaling stuff for the pen,

932
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 3: you're gonna have more of that. But to like, for

933
00:53:03,960 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 3: my more focus is the HD and that's where you're

934
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:09,920
Speaker 3: gonna be okay, okay, all right.

935
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: I guess that makes sense why people eat it instead

936
00:53:12,040 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: of yeah.

937
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly ended up eating. It's a little different too,

938
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: because it just changes. It changes how it develops in

939
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 3: your just like entire system in your cannabinoid system with

940
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 3: the receptors in your body. And that's why that's why

941
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 3: there's more people that it's say it's stronger when you

942
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 3: eat an edible, but it's because it just works in

943
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 3: different ways. But oh, there is something I did want

944
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: to tell you, if you don't mind.

945
00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,919
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sure, all right.

946
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 2: So I was.

947
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 3: At your North Carolina Charlotte show right after so after

948
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 3: you took down the prompts and like all that ship

949
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 3: and I texted in afters I was scared. I was

950
00:53:57,600 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 3: nervous to get up because I was high as fucked.

951
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:01,840
Speaker 3: I was nervous to talk to you. So I didn't

952
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,040
Speaker 3: send it in until you came out on stage, and

953
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:08,120
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that you uh or you wrote them

954
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,400
Speaker 3: down before the show and then came out to do them.

955
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 3: Did you did you see any of the ones that

956
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,800
Speaker 3: were sent or do you just completely just like trash

957
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 3: the rest of them?

958
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? I probably I probably saw your message at some point.

959
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 3: Okay, So I wanted to tell you. So I am

960
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 3: a behavioral neuroscientist. Okay, I wanted to tell you about

961
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 3: one time I conditioned myself to get horny when I

962
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 3: smelled microwavable pot pie in middle school. Conditioned myself absolutely

963
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 3: fucking not. It was on accident. I was a little

964
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 3: fat ass kid that loved those little whatever pot pies

965
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 3: lit little green box whatever. They were delicious. I was

966
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 3: a little fat child, and every time that I would

967
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 3: make those in the microwave, I would beat my dick

968
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:08,920
Speaker 3: smelling the pop pies. And then I realized that it

969
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: was a problem when someone in my family made a

970
00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 3: pop pie at one point and I smelled it, and

971
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 3: I was instantly horny, and I.

972
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 2: Had a problem.

973
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 3: And I somehow took that experience and became a behavioralist neuroscientist.

974
00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: This is what inspired your entire career.

975
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 3: Yes, because I was literally classically conditioned, and I was

976
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 3: classically conditioned to get hard when I smelled microwavable pop pie.

977
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 3: And then I looked into it and I was like,

978
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 3: holy shit, And now I'm a neuroscientist.

979
00:55:57,719 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: What kind of pot pie?

980
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,000
Speaker 3: What the fuck is? It's the green It's the great

981
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:04,640
Speaker 3: If you ate it when you were a kid, you

982
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 3: want to know either the fucking green box pop pie.

983
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's chat, just cant know where the

984
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 3: fuck it is. Uh, what would it be? I don't know.

985
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 3: It was the it's like a woman's name. It's green

986
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: box pot pie, fucking delicious. Probably probably the thing that kills.

987
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:21,840
Speaker 2: Me, not the THHD.

988
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: And to this day, when you smell pop pie, do

989
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 1: you still get hard?

990
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,759
Speaker 3: No, Because in classical conditioning, after a certain amount of

991
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: time either getting hard and not smelling the stimulus of

992
00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 3: pot pie, you have extinction period where you where you

993
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 3: lose that learning like ability, so you learn, you lose

994
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: the stimulus, which in turn extincts the actual behavior itself.

995
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 3: So I no longer get hard. And I tested too

996
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 3: because I was honestly curious, and I no longer do it,

997
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 3: So I'm not fucked up that fucked up anymore. I

998
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 3: had to fix myself. I'm still flow fucked up.

999
00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 1: But you really are a scientist.

1000
00:57:13,880 --> 00:57:14,480
Speaker 2: Exactly.

1001
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I thought it would be cool to talk

1002
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 3: to you about the thing you do all the time

1003
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 3: and tell you you're probably gonna die in the next

1004
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,760
Speaker 3: couple of days. But who fucking knows?

1005
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: How did you? How did you decondition yourself from getting

1006
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: horny from these pies by not so.

1007
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 3: By getting horny without the smell of pop pie, which

1008
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 3: is the stimulus. So when you take away the stimulus,

1009
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 3: which is the smell of pop pies and repeatedly get

1010
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: horny for a X number of years, it slowly dwindles away.

1011
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: So when I stopped eating those pop pies and I said, hey,

1012
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:54,880
Speaker 3: I'm actually gonna go for a run. I'm a fat fuck.

1013
00:57:55,760 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: I was like, all right, and I got a little

1014
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 3: bit better. And this is like when I was in

1015
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 3: middle school. So I stopped doing all that shit and

1016
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 3: I realized I probably need to eat a little healthier now.

1017
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: Almost fucking fat ass again, I mean, but.

1018
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: Whatever, it's cool. Look gets you.

1019
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,440
Speaker 3: Home down listening to your streams. Yeah, I'm just sitting

1020
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 3: a fucking edge. Yeah no, I'm actually kidding. My girlfriend

1021
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 3: gives me pretty pretty alright.

1022
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: But what's your name again?

1023
00:58:26,080 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 3: My name is James.

1024
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: James. James is good talking to you about most of

1025
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 1: this stuff. Is there anything else you want to say

1026
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go?

1027
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to say I really like those lamps

1028
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,080
Speaker 3: that you can fucking like change like the elis with

1029
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 3: your phone. I just think that they're really fucking cool

1030
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 3: because I just play with them like when I'm super

1031
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,960
Speaker 3: high and just watch them change colors. That's it.

1032
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: Enjoy the rest of your life, man, and you'll be

1033
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: You even need many tell you to do that.

1034
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 3: Hey YouTube, bro, keep smoking. Maybe you'll die soon? What

1035
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 3: maybe later?

1036
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: No?

1037
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:07,400
Speaker 3: One knows.

1038
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:08,240
Speaker 2: Have a good life.

1039
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: Take care, Brody, Hey bye, get I think I want

1040
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: to go make myself a Piepcon.

1041
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 2: Goes on the line making your phone calls every night.

1042
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 2: The Beacon goes doing his eye.

1043
00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:24,920
Speaker 1: He's teaching you aloud in the mid of your life,

1044
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: but he's not really an expert.