WEBVTT - Drive Time: Combine Coverage Day 2 with Chris Grier, Jordan Reid and Emory Hunt 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.960 To on Remove gol on Deep Speedways, Peace do PASD 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:10.400 from the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.680 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.440 He's got my advans in the playoffs. 0:00:25.160 --> 0:00:29.040 What is I'm Dolphins and welcome to the Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:31.600 I am your host, Travis Wingfold. And on today's show, 0:00:31.640 --> 0:00:34.760 we are back on the floor at the Indiana Convention 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:38.159 Center for Scouting Combine twenty twenty four coverage. We have 0:00:38.240 --> 0:00:40.400 a bunch of interviews lined up for you guys. We're 0:00:40.400 --> 0:00:43.320 also gonna touch on the Dolphins ranking first in that 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.920 player survey for how they're treated across multiple avenues of 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:49.160 professional football life. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:49.760 We're gonna do that. 0:00:49.800 --> 0:00:52.040 We're a gonna hear from Jordan Reid from ESPN and 0:00:52.080 --> 0:00:55.120 the great Emory Hunt from CBS Sports HQ. All of 0:00:55.160 --> 0:00:58.640 that and more from the Indiana Convention Center in Indianapolis. 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:01.280 This is the Draft Time Podcast. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:07.800 YEA, So, the Dolphins rank number one on the NFLPA 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:12.360 survey that grades several categories across the National Football League 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.479 and these are graded by the players themselves, a pretty 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:17.039 good source here, and I believe Miami was number two 0:01:17.160 --> 0:01:17.600 last year. 0:01:17.600 --> 0:01:20.360 If I'm not mistaken. Well, they got better, they upgraded, 0:01:20.400 --> 0:01:21.120 they proved. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.600 To number one this year with top rankings really across 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:27.440 the board. So here's the categories that players voted on 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:32.440 for this particular survey. Treatment of families. That's third in 0:01:32.480 --> 0:01:34.240 the National Football League out of thirty two. 0:01:34.240 --> 0:01:34.800 What does that mean? 0:01:34.840 --> 0:01:39.039 Tickets for families at games, postgame meeting areas with the players. 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:42.120 We have family Night for where the families come in 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.639 for dinner to have dinner with their with their players 0:01:44.680 --> 0:01:47.080 and the coaches at the facility. So third out of 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.200 thirty two. Pretty good in that category. And when they 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:52.560 have those dinners in the cafeteria number one in the NFL. Baby, 0:01:52.560 --> 0:01:55.440 and I can personally attest to that. We have very 0:01:55.480 --> 0:01:58.440 good breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day in the facility. 0:01:58.800 --> 0:02:00.800 It's awesome. I eat their more than eat at home, 0:02:00.840 --> 0:02:02.800 and it is very very good food. And it gives 0:02:02.840 --> 0:02:03.840 me a good mix too, because I. 0:02:03.840 --> 0:02:05.880 Don't really like to eat that many vegetables and things 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.600 that are good for me, but it forces me to 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:10.480 eat better when I eat in that cafeteria. Nutritionists and 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.920 Dietitian second in the National Football League. Locker room third 0:02:13.960 --> 0:02:14.840 and it's a great locker room. 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:15.880 We hear about that all the time. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:21.480 Training room first, Training staff first. A lot of consternation 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:24.360 about training staff this year, right, and I've always said, 0:02:24.680 --> 0:02:26.760 how the heck is a training staff supposed to prevent 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:27.760 an achilles from popping? 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.200 Like, I never understand that argument. 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:31.240 Well, the players will tell you the training staff and 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:34.720 training room are number one in the entire National Football League. 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.040 So it was the weight room that's also first strength. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:41.120 Coaches second place, team travel Scott Bullus mentioned here the 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:44.560 one that coordinates all that stuff first in team travel ownership, 0:02:44.560 --> 0:02:47.239 Stephen Ross number one, Go get. 0:02:47.120 --> 0:02:47.520 Them, Steve. 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:50.200 And then how about the head coach number eight? That 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.000 one kind of shook me as like kind of low 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:53.240 on the list here, but he. 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:53.840 Also got an A. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:55.600 That just means there's lots of coaches that are loved 0:02:55.600 --> 0:02:56.839 out there in the National Football League. 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.680 So every one of these things is great. 0:02:58.760 --> 0:03:01.240 As an AA for the Miami Dolphins, the only A 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:04.840 minuses were training staff and treatment of families, and then 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.920 the ownership and the weight room both received A pluses 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.400 and everything else got an A. 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:11.639 For your Mimi Dolphins, it's a great place to work. 0:03:11.680 --> 0:03:13.720 And we got to hear from Dolphin Jail manager Chris 0:03:13.760 --> 0:03:16.680 Greer on that survey as he addressed it in his 0:03:17.280 --> 0:03:19.600 Wednesday media availability. From the comment, I will play the 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.680 rest of the sound bites from Chris Greer a little 0:03:21.680 --> 0:03:22.120 bit later on. 0:03:22.200 --> 0:03:23.320 Let's go ahead and drop. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:26.360 That sound bite talking about the NFLPA survey right here. 0:03:26.919 --> 0:03:27.840 Well, I think it's a testament. 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:28.800 It's a Steve Ross. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:32.360 I mean just for what he's built in terms of 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:35.000 the facility and the people he's allowed us to hire, 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.520 and and when you have a building like that and 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.480 you get a survey and you finish top rated like that, 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:43.680 I think that shows just the quality of the people 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:48.200 from you know, Dave Poloka and strength, Kyle Johnson and 0:03:48.320 --> 0:03:51.760 training staff, you know Meghan and the dining staff. 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:54.040 But it's a very collaborative. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:58.000 Everyone works and talks together, and the players feel that, like, 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.920 you know, we're very communicative with the players and telling 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:02.800 them like, hey, you know, what can we do better? 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:05.880 What can we do? So I was very excited for 0:04:05.920 --> 0:04:08.560 it because I know last year when we got number two, 0:04:08.840 --> 0:04:11.640 you know, guys are like, oh, how do we not 0:04:11.680 --> 0:04:15.320 get number one? So again, and that just shows that, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:17.960 you know, with Steve, because right away that last year, 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:19.560 Steve was like, oh, we're number two, what can we 0:04:19.600 --> 0:04:22.640 do better? And so I give Steve a lot of 0:04:22.720 --> 0:04:26.040 credit on that for driving us to be the best 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:26.640 in the business. 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:28.760 We will hear more from Chris Career here in just 0:04:28.839 --> 0:04:30.560 one moment, But first, let's go ahead and play a 0:04:30.560 --> 0:04:33.640 couple of interviews live from Radio Row. They're not live. 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.640 I conducted them live when I did them. They're not 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.240 live right now. They happen in the past. It's a podcast. 0:04:38.400 --> 0:04:41.080 That's how podcasts work. Do you guys know how podcasts work? 0:04:41.320 --> 0:04:43.320 Maybe I do. Let's go ahead by the interview here 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:46.000 with Jordan Reid from ESPN. Now, all right, welcome back 0:04:46.000 --> 0:04:48.560 into the podcast. ESPN still feels good to say that 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:50.520 every single year Jordan Reid, Jordan, how do you doing man? 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.480 How's the how are the rounds treating you? 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:52.600 Here? 0:04:52.600 --> 0:04:54.279 Exuce, I've seen you make a couple of software anywhere 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:55.120 over to the Dolphins table. 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:55.720 It's good man. 0:04:56.040 --> 0:04:58.320 I compare it to the car wash, just going through it, 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:00.600 talking to different teams, and that's the fun part of 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:01.080 the process. 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.760 It's like the lead up to Christmas for me. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:03.400 I love that. 0:05:03.520 --> 0:05:05.120 So every time I have you on the show here 0:05:05.120 --> 0:05:07.400 we do some type of check in on the quarterback position, 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:09.800 because well, you play the position at a pretty high level, 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:12.040 and so I'll ask you again for a progress report 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.280 on two A Tongua bai Loo who played the full 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.359 season for the first time in his career, had great 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.240 success early on, kind of tailed off the production towards 0:05:19.279 --> 0:05:20.560 the end of the year, didn't get the wins late 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:23.120 in the year the Dolphins fans and organization we're hoping for. 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.560 I'm just curious overall, what did you make of his 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.239 second year in Mike McDaniel's system. 0:05:27.320 --> 0:05:28.600 I thought he was really successful. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:31.280 He had plenty of hot points throughout the season, and 0:05:31.600 --> 0:05:33.800 I think there isn't a better system than he could 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:35.720 play in that matches his strengths. Just attack in the 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.919 middle of the field and then just having the adequate 0:05:38.960 --> 0:05:41.880 number of weapons that he has Jaqulen Waddell, Tyreek Hill 0:05:41.920 --> 0:05:43.440 and the host of other guys that they do have. 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:46.279 Devin h change really came on when he was healthy 0:05:46.320 --> 0:05:48.080 throughout the season, and they have a host of other 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:50.040 running backs that they do like as well. So I 0:05:50.080 --> 0:05:52.000 thought he showed some problems and flashes, but they do 0:05:52.040 --> 0:05:54.000 have a big decision to make with him this offseason 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:55.560 and if they're going to give him the extension or not, 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:57.120 and if he is worthy of that. 0:05:57.160 --> 0:05:58.720 So I'll mentioned to see how it does unfold. 0:05:58.800 --> 0:06:00.680 Well, if you take McDaniel's word for it, sounds like 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:01.880 that's the direction they're going to go into. He just 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.719 talked about him in his press conference, and it seems 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:05.240 pretty likely that two was going to be here for 0:06:05.279 --> 0:06:07.360 quite a while. If you hear coach talk about him 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:09.159 and his growth that he's he's seen from that first 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:11.560 year now into year number three, what would you say 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:13.200 are some things that he can he can do better? 0:06:13.200 --> 0:06:15.280 Because every year we've seen to a twenty five year 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:17.160 old quarterback going into his age twenty sixth season, he's 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.200 gotten better every single year rookie year up to now. 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:21.400 What about year five? Where's that jump for him gonna 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:22.000 happen in year five? 0:06:22.040 --> 0:06:24.560 Do you think just a consistency with working things outside 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:27.799 the middle of the field and then also just stretching 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.240 the playbook outside of so much RPO stuff too, just 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.680 because RPO is such what I call object read centric 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:35.359 to where he's reading the safety or he's reading the 0:06:35.360 --> 0:06:37.400 linebacker and things like that. To where he can go 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:40.400 through those true progressions and be more consistent than that area. 0:06:40.440 --> 0:06:42.960 What do you think about the idea of hiring quarterback coach? 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:45.120 I heard that he was going that direction this offseason. 0:06:45.160 --> 0:06:47.920 I think most most quarterbacks probably work with a And 0:06:47.960 --> 0:06:50.080 also I was telling our friend off to the side 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:51.200 here that did the production for us. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.520 He was like, what's the quarterback coach? 0:06:52.600 --> 0:06:52.760 Joan? 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:54.760 I view it as like a swing coach in golf, right, 0:06:54.800 --> 0:06:56.520 whereas you have your your caddy as your coach, and 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:58.599 then your swing coach as yours your quarterback coach. Is 0:06:58.640 --> 0:07:00.599 that an accurate assessment? And also what's the value of 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:01.000 having that? 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:01.440 It is? 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:03.919 And a lot of times with coaches, they have to 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.560 be so focused on winning games they forget about the 0:07:06.600 --> 0:07:09.960 developmental aspects of the position. So a quarterback coach can 0:07:10.000 --> 0:07:12.840 focus on those intricacies, the depth and the details of 0:07:12.920 --> 0:07:15.360 the position that the NFL coach may not have time 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.200 for just because he's trying to beat the Patriots, He's 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:19.240 trying to beat the Bills and the JITs, so they 0:07:19.240 --> 0:07:21.120 forget about the little details of the position. R I 0:07:21.120 --> 0:07:25.200 should they forget? They forget about they get into winning 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.080 games and they get a little. They get so focused 0:07:27.120 --> 0:07:29.280 on that they forget about the little details of the position. 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:32.440 Fundamentals and details can always be stressed upon it and 0:07:32.440 --> 0:07:34.200 focused on. Let's go ahead and pivoting down to the 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:36.320 team building aspect of our show. Here we have Jordan 0:07:36.400 --> 0:07:39.160 Reid from ESPN breaking down all things NFL draft minded 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:41.080 Dolphins for you guys. Here, let's go ahead and start 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:42.360 with the top pick twenty one. I think this is 0:07:42.400 --> 0:07:45.600 the first time we've done drive times since twenty one. Yeah, 0:07:45.920 --> 0:07:48.760 maybe the Waddle and Phillips picks, which worked out pretty 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:50.920 good for the Dolphins. In fact, if you go back 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:55.480 to twenty twenty to Austin Jackson, no Ignogeny was a miss. 0:07:56.480 --> 0:08:00.160 Jalen Phillips and Jaalen Wattle pretty good bye christ career, right, Like, 0:08:00.320 --> 0:08:01.360 tell me about those guys a little bit. 0:08:01.360 --> 0:08:02.520 What do you think about their career so far? 0:08:02.560 --> 0:08:03.600 I mean, they've been awesome. 0:08:03.720 --> 0:08:07.240 Phillips had the unfortunate injury too, has come along really nicely. 0:08:07.320 --> 0:08:10.000 Waddle has been a very explosive weapon. And then you know, 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.560 Igbinoghny was a risk for them back then, but it 0:08:12.600 --> 0:08:14.800 was worth a swing just because a player that started 0:08:14.840 --> 0:08:17.040 as a receiver at Alburn and then transferred over the corner. 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.920 It tests really good and they felt like they had 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:21.480 he had the traits present to where you could coach 0:08:21.520 --> 0:08:23.720 them up to eventually turn into a successful player, but 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:24.400 it just didn't. 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:24.720 Work out for him. 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:27.040 So we're talking about in those five players, a quarterback, 0:08:27.480 --> 0:08:30.680 a tackle, a wide receiver, an edge, and a corner. 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.880 It's the five premium positions in the sport, right Is 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:35.920 that kind of a smart philosophy to go first round 0:08:36.000 --> 0:08:37.960 premium spot because we can get these guys that on 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.680 the free agent market are super expensive. 0:08:39.920 --> 0:08:41.079 Rickie contract not so much. 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.120 Yeah, And I mean the first round, in my opinion, 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:47.319 should be a reserved for passers, pass catchers, and pass protectors, 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:50.240 pass rushers. But so those are the four areas where 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.000 he really want to address in the first round, just 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:54.480 because they're those premium positions. And I think wide receiver 0:08:54.600 --> 0:08:57.280 is a premium position nowadays just because we're seeing so 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:59.160 many of those guys go in the first round, and 0:08:59.200 --> 0:09:02.720 how it really is insurance for those first round quarterbacks 0:09:02.800 --> 0:09:04.440 or those young quarterbacks that you do select. 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.800 So kind of getting into more followups here than my 0:09:07.800 --> 0:09:09.480 actual question I was going to ask you, because you know, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:11.800 I tell people this a lot, and actually e J. 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:14.440 Snyer, the Bootleg Football co host, just stop buying. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:16.079 He asked me, what do you think the offen'se biggest 0:09:16.120 --> 0:09:18.400 needs are, And I said, I'm interested in another pass 0:09:18.440 --> 0:09:21.320 catcher because Tyreek and Waddle when they were injured last year, 0:09:21.440 --> 0:09:23.080 there was a lot of stress on the one guy 0:09:23.080 --> 0:09:25.200 who was up and available. And they also run an 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.719 offense where there's a lot of rotation, so Tyreek and 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:29.720 Walla don't play every step every game because they come 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.560 off the field for those reps. So I'm curious what 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:34.679 you think is a good compliment to those two in 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.920 this year's class at a receiver, tight end and eligible 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.679 that could potentially give Miami even more juice on offense. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:42.320 That you like. Well maybe not at twenty one, but 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:44.719 if they want to trade back for somebody that's coming 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:47.040 up for a player, maybe late first or early second, 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:49.080 I would love to see them get a dynamic tight end. 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:51.800 I think that's another area that can unlock Mike me 0:09:51.920 --> 0:09:54.480 Daniels offense, just because we know they like the flood 0:09:54.480 --> 0:09:56.160 the middle of the field. That's just his scheme, that's 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:59.040 what he wants to do. So Jatavian Sanders of Texas. 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:00.679 He's one that I think they could have a lot 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:02.400 of interest in, just because. 0:10:02.120 --> 0:10:03.480 He's a player that's highly productive. 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.040 He can play inside and outside in the end with 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.040 them stressing the middle of the field so much, his 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:10.720 game in between the college hashes has been so productive 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.640 for him, and I think he was around one to 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:15.080 think yeah, yeah, I think so, late first, maybe not 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:16.679 at twenty one, but late first, early second. 0:10:16.679 --> 0:10:17.840 I think that's where they could go. 0:10:17.840 --> 0:10:19.760 Gotcha, how about on the offensive line, because that's another 0:10:19.760 --> 0:10:21.880 spot where the Dolphins, like every team is looking for 0:10:21.920 --> 0:10:24.400 offensive line help. Right. I did a little research thing 0:10:24.440 --> 0:10:26.760 on this and, like I believe Chad Rure, NFL dot 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:28.960 Com had like twenty six teams with the offensive line 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:31.160 need and their first three needs, like it's everybody in 0:10:31.200 --> 0:10:33.840 the NFL but from Miami. Pretty good lusher and they're 0:10:33.880 --> 0:10:36.319 healthy the depth after injuries took their toll, which again 0:10:36.480 --> 0:10:39.120 every team in the NFL has those. But left guards 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:40.840 are free agent, center's a free agent, right guards a 0:10:40.840 --> 0:10:42.600 free agent. The right tackle got re signed. The left 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:44.720 tackle we don't know if he's coming back or not yet. 0:10:45.160 --> 0:10:47.959 How are some guys that could play either either of 0:10:47.960 --> 0:10:49.839 those spots. But also I'm kind of airsted in the 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.440 potential convert guys like like a Troy Fatanu right from 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.680 you could be a guy that plays guard right away tackle? 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:57.040 Is that a tough transition for a guy like that 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:58.480 to make? And I guess just kind of tellus about 0:10:58.480 --> 0:10:59.760 the offensive line in that first round. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.800 Well, it'd be interesting with Patanu, just because I'm always 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:05.360 of the belief if you have any doubts or you're 0:11:05.360 --> 0:11:07.240 on the fence about if a guy can play tackle 0:11:07.320 --> 0:11:10.240 or guard, make them show or make them fail at 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.600 tackle first, just because it's such a premium position. You 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:15.000 want to make him show you that, hey, I cannot 0:11:15.000 --> 0:11:16.920 play tackle before you slide him inside the guard. 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:17.080 Now. 0:11:17.120 --> 0:11:19.800 I have Fortana grated as a guard, but some teams 0:11:19.800 --> 0:11:21.040 you talk to they have him as a tackle and 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:22.480 they feel as if he can stay there. So I 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:24.880 think he could be a viable option at twenty one. 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.160 Center could be another area of need or is the 0:11:27.240 --> 0:11:30.200 area need for them? Jackson Powers Johnson of Oregon, I 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:33.040 think he's another player that they could target. Zach Fraser 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:36.120 of West Virginia is another. There's plenty of others. Kooper 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:38.360 beebe of Kansas State is another I think they could 0:11:38.400 --> 0:11:38.880 like as well. 0:11:38.960 --> 0:11:41.920 We've heard Powers Johnson, we've heard the Duke kid. I 0:11:41.960 --> 0:11:45.400 just for grand Barton and Zach Fraser a lot the 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:47.680 three centers. How do you separate those guys? Like, what's 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:49.120 the difference in those guys' games? 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:50.640 If you don't mind it, well, I'll just start with Barton. 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.920 Barton actually played center his first year at Duke in 0:11:52.960 --> 0:11:55.520 the any transition to tackle his final two seasons, so 0:11:55.640 --> 0:11:57.880 he has that versatility of where he can play off 0:11:57.880 --> 0:12:00.400 five upfront. Now I think it's an interior guys because 0:12:00.400 --> 0:12:02.400 he does lack some length and he saw that on 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:04.599 tape quite a bit last year. So he has the 0:12:04.720 --> 0:12:08.040 versatility and experience at all five that the others do 0:12:08.160 --> 0:12:10.200 not have. Fraser's only been a guard in the center, 0:12:10.440 --> 0:12:13.560 so he kind of has that interchangeable ability. And then 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.720 Jackson Powers Johnson also has guard and center capability. 0:12:16.720 --> 0:12:18.480 But I think he's the best center in this year's draft. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.280 Yeah, he's fun to watch his tape's. 0:12:20.600 --> 0:12:22.520 I compare him to Christian Wilkins a lot in his 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:26.400 post snap extracurriculars because he's always doing something on the tape. 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:28.199 Is that something you kind of watch for on tape 0:12:28.240 --> 0:12:29.760 sometimes is how guys backed after plays. 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.720 It shows guys that are having fun and they're enjoying 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.000 the game. Especially as an offensive lineman. You'd love to 0:12:35.000 --> 0:12:36.880 see that, just because as a center, centers are like 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.560 quarterbacks to me, you're setting the tone of the offense 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:41.480 because there's only two people that touch the ball every 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:42.360 single play on offense. 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:43.760 It's the quarterback and it's the center. 0:12:44.040 --> 0:12:47.480 So him having that type of infectious energy, it just 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:49.840 helps infuse the rest of the group. And you saw 0:12:49.880 --> 0:12:51.480 that at Oregon, like when he was playing at a 0:12:51.520 --> 0:12:53.360 high level. That offensive line is playing at a really 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:53.840 high level. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:55.240 Just a high a great character. 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:56.480 I saw an interview with him where he was talking 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.920 about doing autographs and he's like, when I find out 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:01.080 the guys are hawking the auto are the Ebell e 0:13:01.200 --> 0:13:04.400 Bay sellers, I just ride down like turd Ferguson from Jeopardy. 0:13:04.480 --> 0:13:06.720 I saw he mentioned that in interview. Just a great, 0:13:06.840 --> 0:13:09.160 high character. Funny dude. Last one for you here we 0:13:09.160 --> 0:13:11.000 talked about the first round Dolphins pick. Again in the 0:13:11.040 --> 0:13:12.840 second round, I picked fifty three. Who do you like 0:13:12.920 --> 0:13:14.400 in that range? That kind of marries up with the 0:13:14.400 --> 0:13:15.520 Dolphins knees that you have. 0:13:15.840 --> 0:13:17.640 Just any position or just in general. 0:13:17.600 --> 0:13:18.120 Wherever you want. 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:19.840 Fifty three, like top fifty three players, kind of that 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:21.720 French top fifty guys that you like. 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.800 Yeah, I mean offensive line, we could stay with that. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:26.480 Cooper b B I definitely could could be a viable option. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:29.240 Now see a scheme fit. I would say that's kind 0:13:29.280 --> 0:13:30.600 of on the fence about that as far as the 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:33.079 predominantly zone scheme. But I think Cooper BB could he 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:34.720 could be a tackle or it could be a guard. 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:37.439 So he's one tight end I think could be once 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.520 again another area we talked about Jatavian Sanders, but after 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.240 that it gets a little bit tricky. Maybe not so 0:13:42.280 --> 0:13:44.599 at fifty three, but Theo Johnson of Penn State is 0:13:44.640 --> 0:13:46.800 one that I like, call it quite a bit. Excuse me, 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.760 that big, multiple piece of clay that really dominates the 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:52.040 middle of the field. Had seven receiving touchdowns the last 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.520 eight games at Penn State, so things really started to 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.280 click for him down in the back stretch of last season. 0:13:56.280 --> 0:13:58.160 It's hard to discuss defense in the podcast because we 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.079 don't really know what the Dolphins defense looks like going 0:14:00.080 --> 0:14:01.960 into next year with a new DC. I even asked 0:14:02.000 --> 0:14:04.400 Andremia about this and he was like multiple and versall. 0:14:04.440 --> 0:14:05.560 I'm like, oh, you don't say it like every the 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:07.079 team in the NFL. Right, he was making a joke 0:14:07.120 --> 0:14:09.400 about that. So appreciate your time. Was always Jordan Reid 0:14:09.400 --> 0:14:12.000 at Jordan Underscore Read on Twitter. You can find him 0:14:12.040 --> 0:14:15.079 on ESPN all across the draft landscape there still getting 0:14:15.080 --> 0:14:17.840 mistaken for the former commander's tide end right, I think 0:14:17.880 --> 0:14:20.080 I saw it recently. Appreciate you, man, Thank you. 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:21.640 Thanks as always, Travis, and. 0:14:21.680 --> 0:14:23.600 Away he goes, let's go ahead and take our first 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.840 break rate there. Come back on the other side, and 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.360 welcome in guest number two, Emery Hunt. Draft Time Podcast, 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.560 your host Travis Winkfield, brought to you by Auto Nation 0:14:33.320 --> 0:14:36.680 annual tradition, Emery Hunt, CBS Sports HQ joining me here 0:14:36.680 --> 0:14:37.840 on the Draft Time Podcast. 0:14:37.840 --> 0:14:39.160 Emery, good to see you again. 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:40.960 Man, Always a pleasure, man. It's always good to seeing you. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:41.120 Man. 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:44.360 I feel like we're all getting older, but you somehow 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.120 just continue to get younger. I know you had kids, 0:14:46.160 --> 0:14:48.280 so you know your grade started peak out a little 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:48.720 bit there, man. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.880 So I did get a haircut earlier, which hides him 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:52.920 on the side a little bit hides the grays. And 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:54.640 I was going to make a comment to you because 0:14:54.880 --> 0:14:56.360 usually when I see you, man, you put me to 0:14:56.360 --> 0:14:58.200 shame with the dress. But you're kind of casual today. 0:14:58.240 --> 0:15:00.800 What's yeah, listen, I felt like, you know, I wanted 0:15:00.800 --> 0:15:02.040 to do it for the people. You know what I'm saying. 0:15:02.040 --> 0:15:03.720 I was getting too flashy. 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:05.240 I didn't want the fans to come in, so I 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.080 was like, let me stay a little key, mingling with 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.120 the commoners, and then boom. 0:15:08.840 --> 0:15:10.560 He dresses down. He confidence the host. 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.080 This man knows exactly what he's doing, how to butter 0:15:13.200 --> 0:15:15.280 the bread there as it were. Every year we do 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.240 this with you at the combine, and then we do 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:19.080 one in May, which I'm sure we'll do again talking 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:22.280 about udfas. But it's an annual tradition to revisit the 0:15:22.400 --> 0:15:25.040 hits you have with guys that you project they're gonna 0:15:25.040 --> 0:15:28.000 make our roster from the udf A list. It's uncanny, man, 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:29.560 every year you get two for us. I don't want 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.160 to know, inflate your ego too much. 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:31.360 Year. 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:32.640 But Chris Brooks and. 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:34.520 Julian Hill, you came on the podcast last many and 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.000 tell me they're gonna make the team, and they did, 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:37.960 and they played all year long. Chris Brooks got injured 0:15:37.960 --> 0:15:39.440 and couldn't get on the field late in the year. 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.320 But those two guys, man, what did you see in 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.200 their game as rookies for the Dolphins this year. 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:46.000 Well Brooks was someone that set out to me initially 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:47.080 at the Hula Bowl. 0:15:47.600 --> 0:15:48.600 There's a big. 0:15:48.320 --> 0:15:52.360 Back, just was heavy running downhill, ran behind his pass. 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:56.240 I felt like watching him that week, it's difficult to 0:15:56.280 --> 0:15:58.200 tackle him. And then you go and watch the film, 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:00.600 You're like, Okay, he was a good pace setter for 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:03.080 a run game, someone that can help keep the Dolphense 0:16:03.200 --> 0:16:03.640 on pace. 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:04.680 And we know the. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:07.520 Dolphins is predicated on speed, so you need someone like 0:16:07.600 --> 0:16:09.600 Brooks in there. And that was the perfect fit for 0:16:09.680 --> 0:16:11.200 him for his skill set and when he brought to 0:16:11.200 --> 0:16:14.080 the table, he'll I remember calling the game where they 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:16.840 played Mama because I do a lot of college broadcasting 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.920 and Mama Campbell game was like, man, it's this This 0:16:20.040 --> 0:16:22.360 kid is pretty dog go good. And you know he's 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:24.480 one of these swing move h back types that can 0:16:24.640 --> 0:16:25.520 catch the ball and get up. 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:26.680 Feel he could run, he could block. 0:16:26.720 --> 0:16:30.120 He's enthusiastic about blocking but he's also very good with 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:31.800 the ball in his hands. So he's another one that 0:16:32.080 --> 0:16:34.640 if given the opportunity. With the way the Dolphins utilize 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:36.760 their tight end and what they want to recreate, I 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.200 know everyone says, you know Minnie Sean Vay or someone 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:41.480 like that, and how San Francisco does. Says, well, that's 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.440 what San Francisco does. They get a tight end, they 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.400 get an h back and get a flex tight end 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.440 and get a full back. And the Dolphins are still 0:16:48.480 --> 0:16:50.040 creating that. And I thought Hell would have been a 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:53.240 perfect type to crossover between fullback h back that can 0:16:53.280 --> 0:16:54.000 really catch the ball. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:56.880 That's a good example because alec Ingold obviously is kind 0:16:56.880 --> 0:16:56.960 of that. 0:16:57.040 --> 0:16:57.960 Kyle used check role. 0:16:58.040 --> 0:16:59.840 Dervis minds us a little bit of everything, kind of 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:01.840 a I don't want to say poor manage George Kittle 0:17:01.840 --> 0:17:04.360 because he's not that, but George Kittle's an can all pro, 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:06.760 so it's tough to hit that match. But then you know, 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.040 with Julian I had I interviewed this year in the 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:10.600 locker room one point and I was like, man, I 0:17:10.600 --> 0:17:12.600 love watching you come around the formation on those jet 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.480 motions and kick out that backside lineback or even lead 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:17.480 up the back on the outside zone that way, and 0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:19.240 he's like, got offif on my rookie duties. 0:17:19.520 --> 0:17:21.160 So what I'm curious is the. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.040 Next evolution for him as a pass catcher because you mentioned 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:24.560 a little bit there. You think there's some meat on 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:26.160 the bone fram because he didn't really get any targets 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:26.960 this year in the passing game. 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:28.840 Yeah, and that's you go back and watch the games 0:17:29.040 --> 0:17:32.000 at Campbell. He was a significant part of the passing game. 0:17:32.280 --> 0:17:34.560 He was well closed by Mike Menton, former NFL player 0:17:34.600 --> 0:17:36.520 and he now moved on from the head coaching position 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:38.720 there at Campbell. But while he was there, he was 0:17:38.760 --> 0:17:41.280 they were getting him the ball. And I think now 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:44.920 because people have gotten you see him blocking, that they're 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.399 going to leave the passing game on a constant and 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:49.480 he's going to get those opportunities. And that's going to 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:51.760 be the surprise the growth this year, which is what 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:55.520 I love football and how you could always see rolls expand. 0:17:55.600 --> 0:17:57.639 So what you see year one may not be what 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.119 a guy can only do. It's going to expand in 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.040 a year or two, and for him, I think we 0:18:02.040 --> 0:18:03.480 were going to see that this year. It was just 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.360 mixing offense that much more dangerous. 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:07.800 Julian Hill alec Engold fifty combined catches this year. I'm 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:11.000 calling it right now. Now, get the ball in those 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.480 guys hands. Forget Tyreek and Walla again to those two guys. Now, 0:18:13.640 --> 0:18:15.880 I'm just kidding, But let's go back to Chris Brooks here, 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:18.600 because you know, you mentioned the balance for the Dolphins offense, 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:20.240 the speed they have, but Chris Brooks is such a 0:18:20.280 --> 0:18:21.440 physical hammer man. 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:23.480 There was a moment in training camp last year. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:25.320 They were running the team drills at the end of 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:27.200 the practice and Chris Brooks took a ninety or no, 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:28.520 I'm sorry, let me rephrase that. 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:29.440 They were on goal line. 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:30.879 He hammered it in it from two yards out, just 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:33.000 ran through a tackler and then took a ball ninety 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:34.879 seven yards the other direction for a long touchdown. I 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:37.240 was like, okay, you got my attention now, young man. 0:18:37.600 --> 0:18:39.639 But he ran that way in the preseason. In this 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:42.359 regular season in the Broncos blowout, he had a long 0:18:42.440 --> 0:18:44.280 run in that game. I think he can play man. 0:18:44.400 --> 0:18:46.000 And so my question to you is, because the Dolphins 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.399 have all that speed and they tend to garner two 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.439 high structures defensively, right is Chris Brooks kind of that 0:18:52.480 --> 0:18:53.840 guy that can come in and get you out of 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:55.720 those two high looks and get more single high looks 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:56.200 for this offense. 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:58.040 Yeah, because at the end of the day, you have 0:18:58.119 --> 0:19:01.240 to account for him in a run game, and you know, 0:19:01.720 --> 0:19:03.120 for guys like him. 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:04.720 It's a chore to tackle him. 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.119 So you got to bring an extra guy down, an 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.399 extra hat down, and that just creates those looks that 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.919 you see, those advantageous looks that that gets those guys. 0:19:12.640 --> 0:19:13.960 With speed in space. 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:17.920 So yes, but it's the gift and the curse, because 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.639 we touched on it briefly, the injuries. Right when you're 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.680 that physical over runner, that's gonna happen. So if you 0:19:24.680 --> 0:19:27.000 could just develop a little bit more wiggle without losing 0:19:27.040 --> 0:19:31.080 that that enforcer mentality, it's gonna help sustain his season 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.560 for sixteen seventeen games and then open things up for 0:19:35.119 --> 0:19:37.359 everyone else to do their things speed wise, because if 0:19:37.400 --> 0:19:40.040 you have to tackle him all throughout the game, at 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.199 least on first or second down, like man, all right, 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:44.320 here we go again, and then here comes a ch 0:19:44.359 --> 0:19:47.640 hand and then boom eighty yards like I'm tired from 0:19:47.640 --> 0:19:49.800 tackling this dude, and this dude just running all over 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.720 the place. That's the union and the yang of the 0:19:52.800 --> 0:19:55.600 running game, which is why you need those prime example, 0:19:56.160 --> 0:19:58.639 and this is a team that the Dolphins played. You 0:19:58.720 --> 0:20:04.120 saw the difference between the Cowboys without a pacesetter Jux 0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:08.480 opposed to you know, having one with Zeke. It was 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:11.280 a different game. Polo was much more efficient and better, 0:20:11.520 --> 0:20:14.359 more effective. And so we're seeing that now the Dolphins. 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:16.040 If they can get Brooks out there and let him 0:20:16.040 --> 0:20:18.040 just continue to be the pacesetter. He doesn't have to be, 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.879 you know, a dominant back, but he has to be 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:22.920 able to go on those three and a half four 0:20:23.000 --> 0:20:26.400 yard carries, those jabs and here comes to knockout blow. 0:20:26.440 --> 0:20:28.480 With all the speechs you guys have in the backfield. 0:20:28.320 --> 0:20:30.080 The way he kind of the way a chan finds 0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.440 those little slippers increases reminds me of Chris Johnson for 0:20:32.480 --> 0:20:34.920 the Titans back in the day. Wendell White. Maybe he 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:36.560 can be our thunder and lining right now? What would 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:38.479 really tick me off about? 0:20:39.119 --> 0:20:41.119 Like, because people always liked what's your favorite team or 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.399 who's your favorite team? And I don't root for teams anymore. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.159 I root for good football and our route to see guys, 0:20:47.240 --> 0:20:51.520 do well. Right, So it just in the Dolphins Ravens game, 0:20:52.280 --> 0:20:54.760 a Chan had the easiest one hundred yard game and 0:20:54.840 --> 0:20:58.199 didn't get the ball, Like imagine if he just they 0:20:58.280 --> 0:20:59.879 kept giving him the ball. I think they stayed in 0:20:59.880 --> 0:21:03.159 the game and probably beat the Ravens. So having that 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.000 ability to hit the home run from anywhere on the 0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.800 field in the run game, that is a valuable asset. 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.080 So I'm glad he ended up in a situation that's 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.720 gonna you know, utilize his skill sets fully. 0:21:12.840 --> 0:21:14.639 You love his game, right, let's talk more about him 0:21:14.640 --> 0:21:16.240 a little bit. Just tell me about his rookie season 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:17.520 and just kind of what you saw from him. 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.000 Speed speeding is supposed to just like period, like you 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:21.960 get outside and it's gone, it's eighty eight out the gate, 0:21:22.040 --> 0:21:24.920 and you know, so when you have in one of 0:21:24.960 --> 0:21:26.720 the in my scouting news, I think the first tune 0:21:26.720 --> 0:21:29.520 of his scolaryport, I have like runs like a determined puppy. 0:21:30.119 --> 0:21:33.000 Like he's just aggressive in terms of like I'm not 0:21:33.119 --> 0:21:35.639 going down, and he had to be a little bit 0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:37.840 more judicious on winning where he's gonna take contact that 0:21:37.920 --> 0:21:40.760 we're contact. The beauty is when we're that fast, he 0:21:40.880 --> 0:21:42.560 might not take a lot of contact. He's just gonna 0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:46.359 outrun everybody. And we saw that at times in the NFL, 0:21:46.440 --> 0:21:50.320 and that to me is where someone like a Chan is. 0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:52.560 Gonna have a nice long career. 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:54.840 It's kind of like what you see already roheem most 0:21:55.119 --> 0:21:57.840 those type of guys. But I mean, when you run 0:21:57.960 --> 0:22:00.480 Legit four three, four to two on good days. 0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:00.960 You know what I'm saying. 0:22:01.000 --> 0:22:03.600 You got a Legit four about one track team, And 0:22:03.960 --> 0:22:06.200 I brought this up. I was talking to another team 0:22:06.560 --> 0:22:10.800 where with the Dolphins, in this particular team, it's creating 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:13.840 It's very CFL like to where you feel like the 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:17.560 field expands with wire. So now when you expand the 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:23.240 field with wise and you have these dynamic speed guys. 0:22:22.240 --> 0:22:24.920 In space, it's impossible to cover. 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:28.120 That's why teams were so afraid of playing the Dolphins, 0:22:28.400 --> 0:22:31.800 because it makes the field look wider, it makes the 0:22:31.840 --> 0:22:35.199 feeld look longer, and we don't have the speed to 0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.080 cover four guys that have Olympic track speeds. So eight 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:41.439 Chan in the midst of the Wattles and the Tyreek Hills. 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.800 I would never want to game plan against Miami. 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:48.080 Daniel talks about his twenty one first twenty one personnel fast, 0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:50.160 twenty one personnel with a chan, and most are out there. 0:22:50.320 --> 0:22:52.679 I like that thirty personnel package put ingled out there 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:53.720 wattle reek a chan. 0:22:53.840 --> 0:22:55.440 Mosters go baby speak. 0:22:55.720 --> 0:22:56.680 How much speed do you have? 0:22:57.040 --> 0:22:57.119 Like? 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.240 You can't you can't like? And the thing here's the 0:23:00.280 --> 0:23:01.280 thing about exposed to speed. 0:23:01.280 --> 0:23:06.359 People don't understand you can't zone cover or bracket cover 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.320 that type of speed. You can bracket speed and zone 0:23:09.320 --> 0:23:12.040 speed and kind of play inside out banjoo coverage or whatever. 0:23:12.400 --> 0:23:17.000 But when you have Olympic type speed guys outrun coverage, 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.880 it's it's it's nothing you can do. You better get 0:23:19.960 --> 0:23:22.119 pressure on the quarterback. But when you're dealing with a 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.480 quarterback that is accurate, his timing is all. 0:23:25.440 --> 0:23:28.320 Point, the placement, his own point. The ball comes out quick. 0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:32.199 Good luck, hey man, preaching, tell us more. 0:23:33.200 --> 0:23:34.359 You got three minutes. You're out here. 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:36.560 I want to ask you this last two questions. In one, 0:23:36.760 --> 0:23:38.040 I know you've been spending some time on the skill 0:23:38.080 --> 0:23:40.359 players in your evaluation. Tell us about some guys you 0:23:40.400 --> 0:23:41.679 like at the top of the draft from Miami in 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:43.879 that regard, And then as you want to do some 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:44.840 hidden gems later. 0:23:44.680 --> 0:23:48.679 On, listen Troy Franklin is someone I thought you might 0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:55.479 like it. It's speed, speed, speed, bro, and it's Miami 0:23:55.520 --> 0:23:57.520 can't get enough of it. And he's a he's a 0:23:57.560 --> 0:23:59.600 taller guy. I do think even though he's lean, he 0:23:59.640 --> 0:24:01.360 has room to fill out this frame a little bit 0:24:01.720 --> 0:24:04.640 and get, you know, add some weight. But he runs 0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:07.119 routes like a like a receiver does. He's not just 0:24:07.119 --> 0:24:09.520 a speed only guy. He's just a He's a receiver 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.399 that happens to be explosively fast. So he would be 0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:14.960 one with the Dolphins picked that still well, it depends 0:24:14.960 --> 0:24:17.439 on when that run goes with the you know, the receivers, right, 0:24:17.440 --> 0:24:20.639 because this is an elite class of wide receivers. You know, 0:24:20.680 --> 0:24:23.320 you got a bunch of guys, maybe like ten guys 0:24:23.320 --> 0:24:25.919 that I could say our first round talents, right, and 0:24:25.960 --> 0:24:29.000 so it's crazy it's gonna push guys down. So Franklin 0:24:29.000 --> 0:24:30.560 would be the one. I think it fits in that 0:24:30.640 --> 0:24:32.520 range for the Dolphins. That would be an ideal fit 0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.040 for what they do schematically, if you're a taller guy, 0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.920 but still that in line with the speed, and it 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.720 just opens things up right later in the draft, you 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:42.520 want to undraft the gym you want someone that no 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:47.440 one's talking about, West Florida's John Giles, like six two 0:24:47.640 --> 0:24:49.480 two eighteen can fly. 0:24:50.520 --> 0:24:53.000 It was at the College Grin showcase. He killed it there. 0:24:53.080 --> 0:24:55.639 It is almost laughable with how dominant he was in 0:24:55.680 --> 0:24:57.679 each and every rep. He got a late call up 0:24:57.720 --> 0:24:59.879 to the Hula Bowl, went out there a short notice 0:24:59.880 --> 0:25:01.880 in dominated as well. And so if you go back 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:05.119 and watch his game against Florida A and M. Florida 0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.160 and M was going to have two guys in twenty 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:08.680 twenty five draft and the second area are going to 0:25:08.680 --> 0:25:10.959 be draft picks he had. He was open all day. 0:25:11.080 --> 0:25:12.640 Quarterback just couldn't get him, you know what I'm saying. 0:25:12.640 --> 0:25:14.439 So he was open all day and that's the biggest thing. 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:19.040 So John Giles, big receiver, fast, physical, underrated guy that 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:19.920 no one's talking about. 0:25:20.080 --> 0:25:21.879 If I was a betting man, I would bet that 0:25:21.920 --> 0:25:24.600 you're not gonna hear John Giles' name in this room. 0:25:24.440 --> 0:25:26.159 Not at all the week unless you said unless I 0:25:26.160 --> 0:25:28.800 said it said West Florida Argonatt you know, say out 0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:29.560 there in Pensacola. 0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:31.400 And that's why we have every hunt on every single 0:25:31.440 --> 0:25:35.080 year at f ball game Plan CBS Sports HQ Emory 0:25:35.080 --> 0:25:35.520 thank you as. 0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:36.520 Always man, Always a pleasure. 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:36.600 Man. 0:25:36.640 --> 0:25:39.200 Appreciate you coming on, man, and we will have Emory 0:25:39.200 --> 0:25:41.639 back on the podcast to do our UDFA podcast we 0:25:41.720 --> 0:25:43.439 do every single year with him, where he gets them 0:25:43.480 --> 0:25:44.080 right every year. 0:25:44.119 --> 0:25:45.520 I don't know how he does it. It's amazing. 0:25:45.520 --> 0:25:47.760 But it's also fun to go back and look upon 0:25:47.880 --> 0:25:49.640 like we did there with Chris Brooks and Julian Hill 0:25:49.880 --> 0:25:51.840 and the other undrafted rookies that he has nailed for 0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:52.520 the Mimy Dolphins. 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:54.359 Let's go ahead and take our last break right there. 0:25:54.400 --> 0:25:56.240 Come back on the other side and get you the 0:25:56.359 --> 0:26:00.000 updates and highlights from Chris Greer's Wednesday press conference here Indianapolis. 0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:03.680 That's Next Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield, brought 0:26:03.720 --> 0:26:07.960 to you by Auto Nation. It's not too often we 0:26:07.960 --> 0:26:09.439 get to hear from Chris Grear, and we got that 0:26:09.520 --> 0:26:11.000 on Wednesday here in Indianapolis. 0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.240 Go ahead and go back to his media availability. 0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:14.960 And another thing you got to talk about a lot 0:26:14.960 --> 0:26:17.119 when you have a good quarterback is the quarterback position 0:26:17.240 --> 0:26:20.280 and that quarterback himself and his contract situation. So we're 0:26:20.280 --> 0:26:22.000 gonna go ahead and do two soundbites for you here 0:26:22.080 --> 0:26:25.360 on TUA. First about the extension that sounds like it's 0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.280 in pretty imminent at this point. Here's Chris Grear on 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:29.800 QB one and his contract situation. 0:26:29.920 --> 0:26:32.840 Yeah, we've been in communication since the off season began. 0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.840 I'm gonna talk to his agent here this week. Yeah, 0:26:36.880 --> 0:26:38.520 so I'll both try and see if you can get 0:26:38.560 --> 0:26:43.280 something done. So Ryan's been great too, It's been great, 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:46.120 So we'll see, but there's no timeline on it because 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:47.399 the end of the day, you know how these deals 0:26:47.400 --> 0:26:50.800 get done, their complicated deals and building the team through 0:26:50.840 --> 0:26:53.800 free agencies as well. So we'll work through it and 0:26:53.840 --> 0:26:54.959 see if we get something done. 0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:56.879 A couple of guys on Radio row when I record 0:26:56.880 --> 0:26:59.000 that last bit there we're clapping, which almost feels like 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.840 an applause hitting and the two extension conversation, which just 0:27:01.880 --> 0:27:02.720 feels fitting to me. 0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.120 Let's go ahead and move on next. 0:27:04.160 --> 0:27:05.840 Here to a question that I thought was the best 0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:07.960 of the entire press conference, and it was from a 0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:09.879 guy that doesn't usually come on the Dolphins beat, so 0:27:09.960 --> 0:27:12.880 good for him for coming in and being the showstopper. 0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:15.480 He asked about the exponential growth for Tua and the 0:27:15.520 --> 0:27:17.600 opportunity for him to continue to get better because as 0:27:17.640 --> 0:27:19.920 we discuss on this podcast and every piece of content 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.000 that I do in this world is that Tua has 0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:25.560 improved his game each of the four years in his career. 0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:28.040 Kind of an up and down rookie season, right, not 0:27:28.080 --> 0:27:30.679 really a lot of explosive popping. There some better efficiency 0:27:30.720 --> 0:27:32.879 in year number two. Year three takes off, has the 0:27:32.880 --> 0:27:35.600 breakout yere Ab gets injured. Year four has another big 0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.040 time statistical season and stays healthy. 0:27:38.240 --> 0:27:39.480 What's coming up in year five? 0:27:39.760 --> 0:27:41.919 I've talked about how I believe that his processing, his 0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.800 strengths that he exhibits really bode well for his long 0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.640 term growth to become the best version of himself into 0:27:48.680 --> 0:27:50.840 his late twenties and even into his thirties, maybe even 0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:52.440 into the mid thirties as well. He's the kind of 0:27:52.520 --> 0:27:54.920 quarterback that excels with the stuff that gets better with age. 0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:56.200 So coach not coach. 0:27:56.400 --> 0:27:59.280 Chris Greer was asked about that here's career on Tua's 0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:02.000 room for growth as a quarterback and a player and 0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:03.640 a leader for your Miami Dolphins. 0:28:03.720 --> 0:28:05.400 That's a good question because Mike and I had talked 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:10.120 about that a lot, and and we're strong believers in him, 0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.479 and you guys all feel Mike's passionate about him when 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.040 he talks about him, and just in the two years 0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:19.040 of what he's done, he's grown in areas and to 0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:20.760 where you know, he let the league in passing and 0:28:20.800 --> 0:28:24.160 did some great things this year, and we all feel 0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:26.159 there's still another level that he can take it. And 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:27.680 I think if you ask too, he would tell you 0:28:27.760 --> 0:28:28.200 that too. 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:28.840 And so. 0:28:31.160 --> 0:28:33.360 Just his growth on and off the field, like being 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:36.439 voted captain last year and then seeing how he is, 0:28:36.720 --> 0:28:39.520 you know, behind the scenes with guys and holding people 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:44.840 accountable is huge. So I think the way he's attacked 0:28:44.840 --> 0:28:49.200 this and wants to be great, and the combination of 0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:51.280 Mike and working with that and that trust and belief 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:52.400 in each other, we do think. 0:28:52.320 --> 0:28:54.960 There's still another level kind of tell offors. Why I 0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:57.200 apologize for that audio, but you get the point of 0:28:57.200 --> 0:28:59.600 what he's saying. Next the other big contract we're talking 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.240 about this Sason Christian Wilkins. I continue to get the 0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.920 breadcrumbs here that sounds like Christian will not be leaving. 0:29:04.920 --> 0:29:06.600 In fact, that's what the report was, right. They're not 0:29:06.600 --> 0:29:08.240 gonna let out of the building. And why would you. 0:29:08.400 --> 0:29:11.000 I've told you, guys, I've officially swung to the side 0:29:11.000 --> 0:29:13.479 of do not let him leave, because if he leaves 0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.800 now you need a zero technique. You probably need a 0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.480 zero slash one shade technique, you probably need a three technique, 0:29:18.480 --> 0:29:20.960 and maybe even a potential like five swing technique. Is 0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:24.719 a rotational guy, so Wilkins fulfills several roles. Here is 0:29:24.760 --> 0:29:27.200 the update on Christian Wilkins, which is some good news here. 0:29:27.200 --> 0:29:29.520 It sounds like Chris Greer and his agent are having 0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:30.720 a powwell here pretty soon. 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:32.840 No, I think all options are on the table for us. 0:29:33.800 --> 0:29:38.040 I'm gonna beet here with Christian's agent this week. Dave 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:42.240 and I've always had good conversations, but I'm just being 0:29:42.360 --> 0:29:44.400 very transparent with it, you know. I Mean, he guys 0:29:44.440 --> 0:29:48.160 earned it. He's had a great season, and so we'll 0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.160 see what happens here as we talk here over the 0:29:50.160 --> 0:29:50.960 next couple of weeks. 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:53.280 The all options mentioned there at the top of the 0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:56.880 answer was regarding the potential four potential, potential for potential 0:29:57.160 --> 0:30:00.800 for a long term contract or a tag situation for 0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.080 Christian Wilkins. Let's go ahead and go back now to 0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.760 a more team building philosophy question, and he was asked 0:30:05.800 --> 0:30:07.840 about having a quarterback who is no longer on a 0:30:07.920 --> 0:30:10.360 rookie deal and how that impacts your ability to be 0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:12.840 flexible and just what you do going forward. That was 0:30:12.960 --> 0:30:15.640 the question posed to Chris Greer. But I thought the 0:30:15.680 --> 0:30:18.440 answer about the guys we're talking about for potential extensions 0:30:18.800 --> 0:30:21.200 is the real Uh you come for the come for 0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:23.680 the breader board with the highlight. Is that the the 0:30:23.720 --> 0:30:25.320 main ticket? What am I looking for here? The main 0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.880 the headliner? But you stay for this common here from Chris. 0:30:27.840 --> 0:30:30.479 Greer, Well, it's I mean, it's a it's a challenge. 0:30:30.520 --> 0:30:32.440 But I think the one thing that you know, Brandon 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.920 Shore and Max and Paul Tonnell then when we talk 0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:37.880 is we're always looking short term and long term and 0:30:37.960 --> 0:30:41.560 so in terms of having some flexibility and how contracts 0:30:41.600 --> 0:30:45.120 are structured and stuff. So again, yes, every year you 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.320 can't go make those moves. You know that people get 0:30:47.320 --> 0:30:49.680 excited for your teams just because I mean, you're seeing 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.200 it around the lea. It's not sustainable. You know, at 0:30:52.200 --> 0:30:54.640 some point you have to reel it back a little 0:30:54.640 --> 0:30:58.160 bit and then add some youth and influx and then 0:30:58.600 --> 0:31:00.800 and then uh, cherry pick, you're in there where you 0:31:00.840 --> 0:31:05.120 go and so you know we've been looking at all 0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.880 different ways in terms of building this and keeping our 0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:08.960 roster competitive. 0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.560 So we know about Tua and Christian. He mentioned Waddle 0:31:11.560 --> 0:31:13.800 and Phillips in there. I believe Javon Holland has to 0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:15.680 be part of that mix as well. So that's five 0:31:15.720 --> 0:31:18.959 guys right there. I mean, again, pretty good core players, right, 0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:22.160 another result of drafting well, which some people don't agree 0:31:22.160 --> 0:31:23.800 with that even though the proof is right your face. 0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:24.640 But I digress. 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.240 And it's not that disimilar to the discussions about having 0:31:27.280 --> 0:31:29.720 a quarterback on that big contract and the ability to 0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:31.640 not win games or go deep in the playoffs. Right, 0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:33.840 that's a discussion you've heard the last several years, and 0:31:33.920 --> 0:31:36.360 Patrick Mahomes and other quarterbacks have continued to disprove that. 0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:37.600 So interesting stuff. 0:31:37.600 --> 0:31:39.120 They're talking about how the team has to kind of 0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:40.720 take a different approach and be maybe a little bit 0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:43.440 less aggressive, and how they go after veterans and maybe 0:31:43.560 --> 0:31:45.360 even in the draft and get that influx of young 0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:47.840 talent on the roster. I'm gonna have Kyle Crabs in 0:31:47.840 --> 0:31:49.240 the podcast. I'm not sure if it's going to be 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:51.800 Friday or Monday yet, but you'll he'll talk about this. 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:54.360 We discussed the idea of team building cycles and how 0:31:54.360 --> 0:31:56.360 that all works out and how that flow works, and 0:31:56.480 --> 0:31:58.800 with the Dolphins' ability to have those good draft classes 0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:01.680 a few years back, they afford themselves the opportunity to 0:32:01.720 --> 0:32:04.800 go aggressively after a Tyreek Hill, after a Bradley Chubb. Right, 0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:07.440 use those first round draft picks for veteran, proven talent 0:32:07.520 --> 0:32:09.520 on the big contract. But now that you're a couple 0:32:09.560 --> 0:32:12.040 of years removed from having first round picks, probably time 0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:13.400 to kind of step back a little bit and be 0:32:13.440 --> 0:32:15.880 a little bit, you know, less aggressive and get that 0:32:16.000 --> 0:32:17.480 youth influx on your roster. 0:32:17.640 --> 0:32:19.360 I thought that was very well said there from Chris Queer. 0:32:19.520 --> 0:32:21.280 Let's go next now to a question about the health 0:32:21.280 --> 0:32:23.320 of two and fifteen, the edge rushers who were lost 0:32:23.400 --> 0:32:25.239 late in the year. Does it derail your plans at 0:32:25.240 --> 0:32:27.000 all in the off season at all? Here's Chris Career 0:32:27.000 --> 0:32:27.440 on just that. 0:32:27.760 --> 0:32:32.440 Well, it threw off the playoff plans, that's for sure. Said, Yeah, 0:32:32.560 --> 0:32:35.680 losing guys like that late in the year is always hard. 0:32:36.280 --> 0:32:38.960 At the end of the day, we don't talk about 0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:41.960 the medical history or where guys are in terms of 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.360 their rehab. I will say they're both in the building 0:32:44.440 --> 0:32:47.480 attacking it every day. So it's been good to see 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.560 those guys and they support each other working through it 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:51.800 as well as all our other injuries guys with a 0:32:51.880 --> 0:32:54.640 number of guys. Yeah, I mean, you know, of course, 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:57.040 it makes it challenging because now you know, we have 0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:59.600 to hear, have guys ready to go here, start a 0:32:59.680 --> 0:33:01.920 dreaming and do it and just the timing get the 0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.760 injuries later. But they're working hard and hopefully we're going 0:33:04.760 --> 0:33:05.480 back at some point. 0:33:05.480 --> 0:33:07.920 There a couple more here for you guys. Let's go 0:33:07.920 --> 0:33:09.800 ahead and pivot. Next to the offensive line, there was 0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:12.240 a bunch of questions about to Ron Armstead, Robert Hunt, 0:33:12.520 --> 0:33:16.160 Isaiah Winn, and Connor Williams, and those situations all remain fluid. 0:33:16.200 --> 0:33:18.760 To Ron Armstead has been in communication with the Dolphins 0:33:18.760 --> 0:33:20.560 about his long term potential here and whether or not 0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.880 he will retire or continue his playing career with the 0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:25.320 Miami Dolphins. So we are still undecided on that, and 0:33:25.320 --> 0:33:27.920 you don't know about winning Williams and Rob Hunt contract situation. 0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:29.640 So he was asked, are you going to have to 0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.480 sign four new offensive linemen? Here's his answer about that. 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:35.160 Possibly, you know, at the end of the day, I thought, 0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:39.080 Butch and Mike and Frank did a great job developing 0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:42.040 those guys. So some of the younger guys there that 0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.160 we have on the roster, the guys are excited for 0:33:44.240 --> 0:33:47.960 see him in another year here going. Those guys made 0:33:47.960 --> 0:33:50.840 a great lead this year, and they're excited for some 0:33:50.920 --> 0:33:53.000 of the guys and what they could be in the future. 0:33:53.040 --> 0:33:55.720 But yeah, I mean, we'll definitely end up having to 0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:57.120 add some players there at that position. 0:33:57.480 --> 0:33:59.120 I wanted to run that audio because I think it's 0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:01.600 an imperative part of this offseason for the Miami Dolphins 0:34:01.600 --> 0:34:03.360 with how things are going to shake out, with how 0:34:03.360 --> 0:34:05.840 the roster gets built. Because I continue to make this 0:34:05.880 --> 0:34:08.000 point that there are some spots, and this is most teams, 0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:09.960 especially when you do have the bigger contracts and the 0:34:10.520 --> 0:34:13.080 proven players begin to come up on their second contracts, 0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:15.000 you're gonna have to kind of have a leap of 0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:17.640 faith at some positions in regards to you can't have 0:34:17.800 --> 0:34:21.239 you know, twenty five players that you gave premium money 0:34:21.239 --> 0:34:23.080 to because your quarterback doesn't make a bunch and you 0:34:23.120 --> 0:34:26.480 had the flexibility within your salary cap to make that happen. 0:34:26.840 --> 0:34:28.840 And so now when you do have those big contracts 0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:31.160 for tu for a Christian Wilkins, for a Tyreek Hill, 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.560 for all the above, you have to make some concessions 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.480 and accept the fact that you're going to go into 0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:37.400 the season with maybe a little bit uncertain to have 0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:39.240 some spots. And I wanted to talk about this because 0:34:39.520 --> 0:34:42.120 his mention of the offensive line being a position where 0:34:42.120 --> 0:34:44.359 they got young guys that developed, like, we can look 0:34:44.360 --> 0:34:47.080 at this crop that was basically you know, I don't 0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:49.160 want to say red shirts last year, but guys that 0:34:49.200 --> 0:34:51.400 didn't play a whole lot who might have the opportunity 0:34:51.640 --> 0:34:53.840 to get more playing time in the future and potentially 0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:56.160 carve out starting roles on an offensive line or backup 0:34:56.200 --> 0:34:58.719 swing roles that wind up playing several games because of 0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.200 the attrition you see every year. 0:35:00.200 --> 0:35:01.360 On the offensive line. 0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.279 So I want to just real quick discuss a few 0:35:03.280 --> 0:35:05.600 guys that I think could be those leap of faith 0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.400 players that you have some trust in with regards to 0:35:08.440 --> 0:35:11.000 how they could help your roster get more balance to 0:35:11.080 --> 0:35:13.400 even out those big moves you made for Tyreek, for Chubbing, 0:35:13.400 --> 0:35:15.719 on and on and on. So, Eric Azukama, I think 0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.280 tops that list receivers a very expensive position to import, 0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:21.200 whether it's a high draft pick or a free agent contract. 0:35:21.320 --> 0:35:23.320 If Azukama can really carve out that role as a 0:35:23.360 --> 0:35:25.360 guy that can beat one on one coverage inside, be 0:35:25.440 --> 0:35:28.400 a separator in the red zone, win those third down matchups, 0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:30.759 that would go a long wave towards your building the 0:35:30.840 --> 0:35:34.160 roster with more explosive options outside of ten and seventeen 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:35.560 to get, you. 0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.880 Know, to be more comfortable with what you have. 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:41.719 If something happens to Tyreek or Waddell and they miss 0:35:41.760 --> 0:35:43.120 a game or two, or if they're just off the 0:35:43.120 --> 0:35:43.880 field in general. 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.120 Cam Smith and Cater Kohu pretty obvious there. 0:35:46.200 --> 0:35:48.000 Cater feels like in the slot is a position they 0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:50.440 could really, you know, go after in the offseason. But 0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.080 his rookie year I thought was plenty good enough for 0:35:53.120 --> 0:35:55.080 that position, or his second year had the bit of 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.160 a drop off. But he's a guy that I think 0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:58.960 you would feel comfortable taking that leap of faith on 0:35:59.000 --> 0:36:01.200 because of his proven resumes in the past. And then 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:04.120 camp Smith obviously you're going off of camp in preseason 0:36:04.120 --> 0:36:06.000 and what he did in South Carolina. I think he's 0:36:06.000 --> 0:36:07.560 a hell of a football player with a chance to 0:36:07.560 --> 0:36:09.680 really be, you know, one of the lockdown cornerbacks in 0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:11.440 the league. That could be a spot where, you know, 0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.400 opposed to spending ten million bucks on a veteran corner 0:36:14.480 --> 0:36:17.040 if it's Cam Smith on his second round rookie contract 0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.359 for the next three years, you'd feel great about having 0:36:19.400 --> 0:36:22.000 that concession there alongside someone like Jayalen Ramsey who you 0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:24.080 pay top of the market money to, and then you 0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.200 move on to the cornerback spot. Ethan Bonner kind of 0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:28.440 falls in that category for me. I'm looking at Julian 0:36:28.480 --> 0:36:30.680 Hill and Tanner Connor as guys that could make steps 0:36:30.680 --> 0:36:33.120 forward to give you more flexibility the tight end position. 0:36:33.320 --> 0:36:35.080 And then Chris Brooks at running back I think makes 0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:36.959 a lot of sense in that role as well, because 0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:39.399 we know Devon A. Channon and Raheem Moster are big time. 0:36:39.480 --> 0:36:41.319 You know bellcows with his team, but having that more 0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:43.560 physical back could make some sense there. The reason I 0:36:43.600 --> 0:36:46.560 put this segment together, though, was talking about the offensive 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:47.839 line and a couple of names I thinks to keep 0:36:47.880 --> 0:36:48.239 an eye on. 0:36:48.520 --> 0:36:50.000 Ryan Hayes, last year seventh. 0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:51.920 Round draft pick out of Michigan, kind of fit the 0:36:51.920 --> 0:36:54.600 mold of a Dolphins offensive lineman. Good ten split, good, 0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.120 get off good, athletic ability can anchor that left tackle 0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.719 spot in the future potentially. Keon Smith made a lot 0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:02.360 of last year both in preseason and had some damn 0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:04.399 good reps in garbage time last year when he got 0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.360 a chance to play for toront armstat down the stretch. 0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:08.839 Maybe even Chasing Hines who was a practice squad guy 0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:11.000 in the roster all year long, but was a guy 0:37:11.040 --> 0:37:12.800 that had some talent and majors wept in New England 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:15.200 and eventually to the Dolphins practice squad. So a few 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.080 names to keep an eye on for OTAs and training 0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:20.000 camp that you need to see progress and uh, you know, 0:37:20.120 --> 0:37:22.319 solid performances from Let's go ahead and play two more 0:37:22.360 --> 0:37:24.960 soundbites here. Chris Greer was asked about the potential of 0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.600 a first round draft pick. Debate whether or not you 0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:30.359 go safe or go ceiling or high ceiling. I should say, 0:37:30.440 --> 0:37:31.719 what are you looking for in that first round? 0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:32.480 Here is Chris Greer. 0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:34.480 I think at the end of the day, well, like 0:37:34.560 --> 0:37:37.080 we tag at twenty one, so we always will always 0:37:37.120 --> 0:37:40.319 take the best player. And if it's someone that even 0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:44.000 that position and that you know, and I don't want 0:37:44.000 --> 0:37:46.720 to speculating position, but the position people think we're stacked 0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:49.480 at you never know, like last year when we sat, 0:37:49.480 --> 0:37:53.040 our of our outside linebacker group was really deep, you know, 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:55.960 and the things happened, and then you know the receivers, 0:37:56.040 --> 0:37:58.240 you know, a Wattle went down, a little bit, Tyreek 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:00.960 got banged up. So yeah, in this league, the way 0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:03.440 the injuries happen, you need depth everywhere. So I mean 0:38:03.520 --> 0:38:07.439 it's you can have the safe pick. But if there's 0:38:07.480 --> 0:38:12.120 a guy that you truly believe is a supremely talented 0:38:12.120 --> 0:38:16.840 player and loves football and will work to reach that ceiling, 0:38:16.880 --> 0:38:19.520 then and it's up to us to spend the time 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:21.799 and invest in them to find out and then you 0:38:22.120 --> 0:38:24.080 make that decision you feel it's best for the roster, 0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.160 not just short term but long term as well. 0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:30.560 One last one for you here, Cam Smith. 0:38:30.640 --> 0:38:32.080 Right, let's just go ahead and get the update from 0:38:32.120 --> 0:38:33.960 Chris Queer on camp smith growth and development. 0:38:34.160 --> 0:38:37.080 No, I think we're very excited about camp. You know, 0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.960 I think you know last preseason, you watch this preseason 0:38:39.960 --> 0:38:43.680 and stuff. He played very well in the preseason, got 0:38:43.680 --> 0:38:47.719 banged up the end and came back and you know, 0:38:47.760 --> 0:38:51.200 at the end of the day, learning big system early. 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.680 You look at his history of guys, with the young players, 0:38:53.680 --> 0:38:57.080 it takes a little bit, and so he worked hard 0:38:57.080 --> 0:38:59.719 and by the end of the season, we are really 0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:03.480 excited about it. And talking to Jalen Rams the other day, 0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:06.279 he was saying how he loves Cam's game and thinks 0:39:06.280 --> 0:39:07.759 he's going to be a good player. So now we 0:39:08.160 --> 0:39:11.320 have we're very strong. You've been believe in them. I 0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.640 think last year with a couple of things, he had 0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.239 got banged up a couple of times, but contributed on 0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.520 special teams get some good things. But I think I 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:23.640 talked to him probably about three four weeks ago and 0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:25.440 called him at like eight thirty in the morning and 0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:27.799 he was in the middle of a workout session. I feel. 0:39:27.880 --> 0:39:30.879 So he's attacking the off season. So we're all very 0:39:30.920 --> 0:39:34.480 excited to see him with an opportunity to play. But 0:39:34.520 --> 0:39:35.880 he's gonna have to compete and earn it. You know, 0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.000 Cater is not going to give it up to him. 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.320 So it'll be good. And then obviously we'll be bringing 0:39:41.320 --> 0:39:43.680 in some other people here too, and maybe X. 0:39:43.680 --> 0:39:46.560 Is back, you knows, he said, maybe X is back 0:39:46.640 --> 0:39:47.200 right there? 0:39:47.760 --> 0:39:51.359 Interesting, very very interesting. 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