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Speaker 2: And welcome to the Draft Time Podcast, part of the
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Speaker 1: How's it going everybody?
Speaker 2: I am your host, Travis Wingfield. And on today's show,
Speaker 2: our last regular season all twenty two review a painful
Speaker 2: experience revisiting the tape of the Dolphins' collapse in the
Speaker 2: Week eighteen loss of the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 1: We'll take a look at the.
Speaker 2: Top five tapes, go over the offense and the defense,
Speaker 2: and some snap counts, tell you where it went wrong,
Speaker 2: what worked, and much much more from the Baptist Health
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Speaker 1: The Draft Time Podcast. Maggie Gaffie. Once again, no big
Speaker 1: play breakdown.
Speaker 2: Don't feel like that's necessary here on a day where
Speaker 2: you don't have a lot of big plays. And so
Speaker 2: we'll just go ahead and kick it off with the
Speaker 2: top five tapes here, and we're gonna start with Christian Wilkins,
Speaker 2: who is my number one tape in the finale.
Speaker 1: I mean, what more can you say about this guy?
Speaker 2: Our ability as a defense to win against the run
Speaker 2: from light boxes essentially runs through ninety four and ninety two.
Speaker 2: The tackle that Christian made on the QB draw prior
Speaker 2: to the Deshaun Elliott pick was just a microcosm of
Speaker 2: the type of player that he is. He allows you
Speaker 2: in this Vic Fangio defense that has been pioneered by
Speaker 2: the guy that works here, Vic Fangio, and has been
Speaker 2: replicated by the entire National Football League as one of
Speaker 2: the primary coverages and structures there is in the NFL.
Speaker 2: And you can only do that when you have players
Speaker 2: like Christian Wilkins, like Zach Seeler, like David Long, and
Speaker 2: like a Deshaun Elliott as well, because you have to
Speaker 2: have guys that can play bigger than their stature inside
Speaker 2: and Wilkins is no slouch. But my goodness, his ability
Speaker 2: to get off blocks.
Speaker 1: I mean in this you know, the way he can fit.
Speaker 2: Against those with those light boxes, against bigger, beefier offensive
Speaker 2: lineman to shut down runners or in this case, the quarterback.
Speaker 2: They think they have a lane, but then he gets
Speaker 2: off a block and makes the play and closes that
Speaker 2: laying down because they're viewing it as he's engaged in
Speaker 2: a block and there's no second level defender to come
Speaker 2: down to make the hit or make the tackle, so
Speaker 2: they can square it through that hole. But he can
Speaker 2: do it by either coming off the block, out the
Speaker 2: outside the leverage or where the block is. But he
Speaker 2: can also get back over the top of that leverage,
Speaker 2: which is where it really becomes impressive. And that's the
Speaker 2: reason why he had those insane tackle stats in the
Speaker 2: previous system that relied upon basically every single snap being
Speaker 2: a two gap.
Speaker 1: Defender on down by down basis.
Speaker 2: But now he gets those looks and he gets a
Speaker 2: lot more one on one rush opportunities, and oh look,
Speaker 2: he's paid that off with a career high nine sacks
Speaker 2: on the season, So six pressures in the game, a sack,
Speaker 2: of forced fumblefult recovery three stops an elite game from
Speaker 2: an elite player who I just think, you have to
Speaker 2: find a way to keep this guy, and I trust
Speaker 2: that they will make that happen. With Christian Wilkins in
Speaker 2: a breakout, breakout year and was already a very good
Speaker 2: career second and top tape devon a chan man. The
Speaker 2: way this guy moves, I cannot wait to see what
Speaker 2: his second season looks like hopefully no preseason injury this
Speaker 2: time that limits his early usage or his campability, but
Speaker 2: also just having a year of tape on tape, but
Speaker 2: coaching the staff, you know, for them to devise even
Speaker 2: more of a you know, a package or an offense
Speaker 2: maybe even around this guy, because the way that he
Speaker 2: sees it with the speed and contact balance that he
Speaker 2: possesses is freaky rare man. Sometimes I can't process his
Speaker 2: tracks live, but when you go back and slow it
Speaker 2: down on tape, he's usually like a step or two ahead,
Speaker 2: Like he presses certain angles or blocks or defenders in
Speaker 2: a way that sets them up for the move he's
Speaker 2: about to make it. If you're not coming downhill at
Speaker 2: the right track, you're going to miss him. Jordan Poyer
Speaker 2: learned that firsthand. If you're flat footed, good luck with that.
Speaker 2: And that touchdown run again a good example, like he
Speaker 2: lulled him to sleep because he stretched it out and
Speaker 2: it looked like they were.
Speaker 1: Gonna be kind of racing the ball to the perimeter.
Speaker 2: But then he puts his foot in the ground and
Speaker 2: hits the gas and is able to make the move
Speaker 2: off of that acceleration that you know Poyer looked like
Speaker 2: when in Madden the player runs by the juke move
Speaker 2: that you put on him at works successfully and they
Speaker 2: kind of like turn back and run back the other direction.
Speaker 2: That's what Poyer looked like on that play. Turn him
Speaker 2: into a video game character. He had forty four yards
Speaker 2: after contact of his sixty total on the ground. That
Speaker 2: was four point eight nine yards per rush just after contact.
Speaker 2: He's a five yards per carry back after initial contact.
Speaker 2: Three miss tackles for us. He had three runs of
Speaker 2: ten plus yards, two of fifteen plus yards, and he
Speaker 2: averaged six point seven yards per carry demon a chan,
Speaker 2: What a heck of a player he is. My third
Speaker 2: top tape is Rob Hunt Man. We missed this dude.
Speaker 2: If you heard these podcasts on these Tuesdays, you know
Speaker 2: how I felt about the previous lineup and the absence
Speaker 2: of Rob hunt with Connor Williams. What that meant as
Speaker 2: far as Rob Jones, who I think has played really
Speaker 2: well in his the stint of starting games for Rob Jones,
Speaker 2: But there was some deficiencies at the other guard position.
Speaker 2: I was you see they moved Rob Jones back over
Speaker 2: there because now all of a sudden, you know, I
Speaker 2: thought Liam Eichenberg played pretty well. Rob Hunt was my
Speaker 2: third top tape, and I thought Rob Jones played a
Speaker 2: good game. But Rob Hunt is kind of the lynchpin,
Speaker 2: the Jenga piece that keeps that all together. Just an
Speaker 2: ass kicker man, like so many times guys are engaged
Speaker 2: and he goes and gets a stack of ribs, or
Speaker 2: he comes off of a you know, a stunt or
Speaker 2: a twist and picks a rusher and puts him on
Speaker 2: his backside, puts guys in the dirt. He attaches in space,
Speaker 2: was superb, picking up gains and games and passing off help.
Speaker 2: Just a very very nice tape for Rob Hunt coming back.
Speaker 2: He also made the critical block that allowed a chan
Speaker 2: to put his foot in the ground and get north
Speaker 2: and south on that touchdown run. PFF said no pressures
Speaker 2: allowed for Rob Hunt, but who the hell knows because
Speaker 2: PFF's numbers, I don't understand them anymore. Like they had
Speaker 2: no drops for Tyreek Hill. Tyrek had like three drops
Speaker 2: in the game. The fourth top tape is Deshaun Elliott.
Speaker 2: I just love his game. I think and hope he'll
Speaker 2: be back as well. So many crucial run fits where
Speaker 2: he's you know, he's so tough working laterally taking on blocks,
Speaker 2: and there was a play. Remember the game against the
Speaker 2: Bengals in twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, you probably don't.
Speaker 2: It was the year that Joe it was his rookie
Speaker 2: years would been twenty twenty, so Joe Burrow had gotten
Speaker 2: hurt and they were a terrible football team, and the
Speaker 2: Dolphins were favored in that game to win. But the
Speaker 2: touchdown that was the first touchdown of the game was
Speaker 2: a Tyler Boyd like seventy five yard pass up the
Speaker 2: sideline on a screen pass and we lost outside contain
Speaker 2: and went underneath a underneath the rub or the block
Speaker 2: out there, and it was an easy, like walk in
Speaker 2: seventy five yard touchdown. The way Elliott defends that perimeter
Speaker 2: like he can be engaged on the tight end or
Speaker 2: the receiver or whoever it is out there on him,
Speaker 2: but he can still work wide and keep that outside
Speaker 2: shoulder free, which allows him to set the edge and
Speaker 2: turn the play back to the inside. But if the
Speaker 2: ballcarrier bounces it wide, he can also play with that
Speaker 2: off arm and go make the play.
Speaker 1: His coverage is good, He's typically in the right spot.
Speaker 2: I think it's probably the weak spot of his game,
Speaker 2: but for the most part, he's typically in the right spots.
Speaker 2: I just think that he has you know, he's a
Speaker 2: good like all too safety in this defense. And you
Speaker 2: saw in this game twenty three yards allowed on five
Speaker 2: targets and forty six coverage snaps. He also had three
Speaker 2: stops on eleven total tackles, and those three stops, like,
Speaker 2: he doesn't spend a ton of time down in the box,
Speaker 2: but when he does, he's very impactful. My fifth top tape,
Speaker 2: I had two cornerbacks here and I went back and forth,
Speaker 2: but I'm going with Jalen Ramsey, who would have been
Speaker 2: higher if not for the rep on the deep digs miss.
Speaker 2: And no, we don't grade for results rather process. So
Speaker 2: this is taking into account that he could have been
Speaker 2: beaten for what was a ninety one yard touchdown passes
Speaker 2: Stefon Diggs because that was a quarters look excuse me,
Speaker 2: where he's got deep responsibility to that portion of the
Speaker 2: field and we send an all out blitz and they
Speaker 2: had been throwing hot and checking the ball down, not
Speaker 2: checking the ball down, but throwing the ball to the
Speaker 2: hookups and the hots on those all out blitz looks
Speaker 2: and he tried to get cute and jump that, but
Speaker 2: it comes with the double move, which is a good
Speaker 2: call by the Bills offense and their play caller, and
Speaker 2: he got beat. But luckily the rush impacted the throw
Speaker 2: enough to whear. It didn't matter that Allen missed him
Speaker 2: by several yards. Besides that, it's this the game plan
Speaker 2: from a coverage standpoint really hinged on a Ramsey's freaky
Speaker 2: movement skills, be his communication and leadership to get guys aligned,
Speaker 2: to make the calls and switches and get that stuff
Speaker 2: all communicated, and see the fact that you can trust
Speaker 2: him to cover a guy like Stefan Diggs and really
Speaker 2: hold him and check for most of the game, mostly Diggs.
Speaker 2: Big plays came on Eli Apple forty five covered snaps,
Speaker 2: forty yards allowed, three for four passing and my just
Speaker 2: missed I mentioned Eli Apple. We'll talk about him here
Speaker 2: in a minute. He's on there, so is Jerome Baker,
Speaker 2: so is Zach Sealer. Offensive notes for this one. I
Speaker 2: actually have come around on that little fake give reverse
Speaker 2: flip play that we run that seems to be stuck
Speaker 2: in the craw of some Dolphins fans because it does
Speaker 2: generate overplay and you saw it on the second snap
Speaker 2: of the game and it produced a sixteen yard run
Speaker 2: for Devon a Chan. But we've ran it twice in
Speaker 2: a row, back to back plays so many times this season,
Speaker 2: and I will I would bet money that every time
Speaker 2: you run it on the second rep, you've lost yardage
Speaker 2: if not seventy five percent of those runs.
Speaker 1: And why does it not work?
Speaker 2: Because the defense just saw it and they they they're
Speaker 2: not gonna fall step a second time in a row.
Speaker 1: So I don't understand that.
Speaker 2: But it happens, and we roll it out there and
Speaker 2: it's explosive on the first play, and then we lose
Speaker 2: yards on the second play and get behind the chains.
Speaker 1: I will reserve judgment on this for this point.
Speaker 2: If it's all been a play to set some stuff
Speaker 2: up in the playoffs, fine, that's great because there are
Speaker 2: some really good inside zone or duo wrinkles that you
Speaker 2: could operate off of that look.
Speaker 1: But if you're not gonna do that, then why.
Speaker 2: The emphasis on that play so frequently, and especially in
Speaker 2: quick succession like that.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out against Kansas.
Speaker 2: City and then two plays later we get the exit
Speaker 2: motion slot vertical up the numbers of the field, the
Speaker 2: one we've hit a billion times this year for touchdowns,
Speaker 2: and the Bills make an adjustment to get a pick
Speaker 2: and we don't see that and just throw right into it.
Speaker 1: It feels weakly like the opposition in these.
Speaker 2: Big games, the lesser dcs and defenses out there, you know,
Speaker 2: the Washington Commanders of the world. I'll put the New
Speaker 2: York Jets in there, the Carolina Panthers, the New York Giants,
Speaker 2: the Denver Broncos back in September. Those teams don't handle
Speaker 2: this stuff well. The stuff that we do well, they
Speaker 2: don't handle. But the best teams find a way to
Speaker 2: make us go to our secondary and third option with
Speaker 2: how we want to play things. And there's just not
Speaker 2: an adjustment to the adjustment.
Speaker 1: Like I expected that to be.
Speaker 2: Like McDaniel's coup de gras in the second half of
Speaker 2: the season was here's all the stuff we did well,
Speaker 2: we'll have our bye week, we'll self scout, we'll come
Speaker 2: up with a whole new like wrinkle off of the
Speaker 2: stuff that we'd love to do.
Speaker 1: And it just hasn't really happened yet.
Speaker 2: So it's it feels like kind of banging your head
Speaker 2: into the wall, and we'll see if it happens in
Speaker 2: the game on Saturday, we'll see if it takes the
Speaker 2: off season next year. But that's kind of my biggest key,
Speaker 2: you know, heading into the off season after the playoff
Speaker 2: run ends, is how can they adjust to the adjustments
Speaker 2: the teams have made back to them. And then also
Speaker 2: like the Jets sweeps the end around the double pass
Speaker 2: looks that stuff has killed so many damn drives this year.
Speaker 2: Feels like more than anything else, penalties like turnovers, those
Speaker 2: negative plays wipe you out of these promising drives.
Speaker 1: That the eight chan non pass, it loses six.
Speaker 2: The next drive after a third down conversion on third
Speaker 2: and fourteen, a Jet sweep loses four, and of course
Speaker 2: that repeated play on the drive one, the flip double
Speaker 2: flip play to lose several yards just a little bit frustrating.
Speaker 2: But man, I thought the first half had some really
Speaker 2: good looks, some good incorporation of pinpoll and the blocking
Speaker 2: scheme that is a different look than the outside zone
Speaker 2: teams are used to, which I think kind of caught
Speaker 2: the Bills off guard a little bit. We threw that
Speaker 2: deep curl to Tyreek off a fake toss action that
Speaker 2: widened Tarron Johnson the conflict defender in that role. But
Speaker 2: then we just kind of kept going back to the
Speaker 2: well and got away from the running game and made
Speaker 2: critical errors.
Speaker 1: In fact, we'll go ahead and.
Speaker 2: Do the individuals now, because you know, watching the tape,
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's lots of you know, handering about what
Speaker 2: this team is and going forward. And I hate to
Speaker 2: break it to you, guys, but if you want wholesale changes,
Speaker 2: you're just not going to get them. And this team's
Speaker 2: probably it's probably gonna be ran back in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways, and you're gonna have the money to go
Speaker 2: ahead and retain most guys. I know a lot of
Speaker 2: you folks don't believe that, but there are definitely ways
Speaker 2: to maneuver, you know, your money around and get guys
Speaker 2: back that you need. And it's I mean, that's part
Speaker 2: of the beauty of the job that Chris Career and
Speaker 2: Brandon Shore have done is it really keeps them flexible
Speaker 2: in future years with their financials. And I think the
Speaker 2: idea of bringing guys back can also make you kind
Speaker 2: of be a little bit short in free agency, which
Speaker 2: can allow you then maybe to pick up a comp
Speaker 2: pick or two if you lose a guy or two,
Speaker 2: but ideally, I think you bring most guys back. You
Speaker 2: run it back with the continuity on both sides of
Speaker 2: the football offensively and defensively, and you go into this
Speaker 2: thing in your third year of the offense with plans
Speaker 2: to make, you know, major adjustments, akin to how the
Speaker 2: Niners found their offensive breakout in their third season under
Speaker 2: Kyle Shanahan. That's a future conversation, but just something I
Speaker 2: wanted to put on the books here. We're going to
Speaker 2: talk a lot this week about long term output and
Speaker 2: then also just kind of some you know, adjustment stuff
Speaker 2: and kind of some fan stuff I want to talk
Speaker 2: about with regards to my journey and where I feel
Speaker 2: I'm at right now with the way I view this team,
Speaker 2: because it's been tough the last couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: But that's all down the road.
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and take a break right there, come
Speaker 2: back on the other side, do Tua's notes, the arrest
Speaker 2: of the offensive individuals, and then we'll also do defense
Speaker 2: on the third size, well, snap counts, all of that's
Speaker 2: next here on the Draft Time podcast, your host Travis Wingfield,
Speaker 2: brought to.
Speaker 1: You by Auto Nation all right, Tua, what do you say?
Speaker 2: Let's go ahead and talk about Tua's game, and real quick,
Speaker 2: I'll go back into the previous conversation. Guys, every time
Speaker 2: player has a rough game, or a rough series, or
Speaker 2: a rough throw, you don't have to replace that player.
Speaker 2: You know, sample sizes need to play out, and we've
Speaker 2: seen a pretty good sample size of this quarterback in
Speaker 2: this offense being very effective. Now, if you have concerns
Speaker 2: about big moments late in the season against big time teams,
Speaker 2: I understand that. But you're not gonna turn it over
Speaker 2: to a rookie who's gonna give me who's gonna come
Speaker 2: onto the scene and all of a sudden be sharp
Speaker 2: in those areas.
Speaker 1: I mean, it just doesn't happen.
Speaker 2: And then unless you get Patrick Mahomes, which if you do,
Speaker 2: that's great, but you're gonna gamble and trade up your entire.
Speaker 1: Class to hopefully hit a player like that, it's probably
Speaker 1: not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: You have a top eight quarterback, I would say right
Speaker 2: now in your grasp, and the fan base, at least
Speaker 2: from a social perspective, is talking about moving off that like.
Speaker 1: It's just really really really really driving me crazy.
Speaker 2: If you want to draft a cam Ward on day
Speaker 2: two or day three, that's that's fine on me. But
Speaker 2: chill out, Okay, chill out. And that's with this being said,
Speaker 2: I thought two had a rough game. I mean, there
Speaker 2: were some good throws early on the first half of
Speaker 2: that was really good. But the second half was really bad.
Speaker 2: So let's go ahead and start here on the first interception.
Speaker 2: This is part of the really bad. There's a pretty
Speaker 2: clear difference on the perfect long shots that Tua throws,
Speaker 2: and we've had more success on.
Speaker 1: That than anybody else.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about these limitations deep ball,
Speaker 2: all the stuff, YadA YadA whatever, man like. The results
Speaker 2: have been there, but the ones that come up short,
Speaker 2: and we saw the ladder here, the one that came
Speaker 2: up short in this game. When he hitches and throws
Speaker 2: in rhythm, there is not a better deep ball thrower
Speaker 2: on the planet and we've enjoy the hell out of
Speaker 2: that this year. Right, But when there's an extra hitch,
Speaker 2: the ball is usually a little bit behind or you know,
Speaker 2: late to get out there.
Speaker 1: And that's true for most quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Now, I know he doesn't have the arm to you know,
Speaker 2: get flat footed and whip that thing on there, all
Speaker 2: wrist action, fifty yards on the field, the way Josh
Speaker 2: Allen can. I acknowledge that there's a limitation there, and
Speaker 2: the club in the bag is not as good as
Speaker 2: it is for other guys.
Speaker 1: You don't have the three hundred and fifty yard drive.
Speaker 2: That's that's fine to acknowledge, and that's why I don't
Speaker 2: have my top three quarterbacks for top five quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: For that matter.
Speaker 2: But you can still win football games and be very
Speaker 2: successful with his skill set, because we've talked about a
Speaker 2: lot of times in this podcast, the skill set that
Speaker 2: he does have is more important than the other stuff
Speaker 2: that you get. If you if you don't have the
Speaker 2: stuff that he has, you can't win with the other stuff,
Speaker 2: But you can't win the way he has his skill set. Right.
Speaker 2: So on that deep shot, he didn't get enough juice
Speaker 2: into it because he kind of hitched and threw it
Speaker 2: from a not you know, loaded up platform. And you know,
Speaker 2: we've hit that look all year long. Hit it three
Speaker 2: times in two games against the Jets, hit it versus
Speaker 2: Washington for two touchdowns, hit touchdowns versus the Patriots, versus
Speaker 2: the Eagles, like you get it, switched it Johnson. The corner,
Speaker 2: the slot corner we talked about with the Bills all
Speaker 2: the time is head up over Reek, but he fans
Speaker 2: out to the curl flat and the half field safety
Speaker 2: squats to come down to take away like the crossers
Speaker 2: and the curls and the incuts. And that's two was indicator.
Speaker 2: When he sees that safety squat, we're throwing deep to
Speaker 2: Tyreek because nobody can run with him on the planet.
Speaker 1: Right the go ball is a go.
Speaker 2: But Christian Ben from the perimeter gets vertical right away,
Speaker 2: and I doubt too saw that. So it turns into
Speaker 2: this cover three with a pre snap cover one presentation,
Speaker 2: and it got to him. It fooled him, and that
Speaker 2: little hitch takes You know, that accounts for ten yards
Speaker 2: that Tyreek covered from the time of that hitch.
Speaker 1: And if you take away those ten yards, I think.
Speaker 2: The ball is a long touchdown throw and catch if
Speaker 2: he catches the ball.
Speaker 1: But either way it's a bad miss. It's a turnover.
Speaker 2: And it hurts even more because durham smythe was naked
Speaker 2: underneath on a chip release. That could have been a
Speaker 2: pretty easy conversion there on third long, but they bait
Speaker 2: and switched.
Speaker 1: It and got exactly what they wanted.
Speaker 2: The first half, I thought two was playing well and
Speaker 2: terms of going away from what the Bills were trying
Speaker 2: to get him into, aside from that first pick, where
Speaker 2: he would move guys and did a good job of
Speaker 2: getting through his reads well. Note some of the awesome
Speaker 2: throws that got this team into the end zone on
Speaker 2: back to back eighty yard drives, starting with a hookup
Speaker 2: throw to Brax and Barios where they this guy's cover
Speaker 2: three with two high and buzzed a pre snap half
Speaker 2: field safety down inside. But he doesn't jump the Braxon
Speaker 2: route because Tua held his eyes on the backside to
Speaker 2: keep that buzzing safety away from the collision on Barrios
Speaker 2: at the catch point, get him leaning one way, throw
Speaker 2: the ball back the other way back to Braxon. Strong
Speaker 2: quarterback play to convert on third down a third and
Speaker 2: fourteen to Tyreek, where he again held the defense to
Speaker 2: other parts of the concept. Then shoots an anticipation ball
Speaker 2: in between four Bills defenders, high degree of difficulty, hit
Speaker 2: it perfectly. It was run game the rest of the way.
Speaker 2: But then he gets the next drivet going with some
Speaker 2: clever ball handling where he shows the ball like kind
Speaker 2: of to the rail and like separates the hands and
Speaker 2: he gets the defender off of his feet, gets over
Speaker 2: commitment to the outside. Then he squares his shoulders and
Speaker 2: throws a strike inside away from a hit to Durham's Like,
Speaker 2: that was Alabama tool on that rep. I thought two
Speaker 2: plays later he had, I thought his best play of
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 1: Talk about the importance.
Speaker 2: I talked about the importance of that third down and
Speaker 2: three at the two minute warning at the end of
Speaker 2: the first half, we get a switch release to the
Speaker 2: field and the Bills don't switch it, so they run
Speaker 2: underneath the rub but he gets into a good trail
Speaker 2: position underneath Hedrick Wilson because and look, if this is waddle,
Speaker 2: it's a it's a touchdown. But Cedric is a great blocker.
Speaker 2: He makes some tough catches, but he ain't running away
Speaker 2: from anybody. The illegal blindside block play on Ingold. That
Speaker 2: ball was perfect. It hit Cedric in the hands first.
Speaker 2: Now Benford recovered and broke it up. But the cornerback
Speaker 2: is running the route force Hedrick on that play, like,
Speaker 2: he's right there. You could I don't know, man, Like
Speaker 2: top gear should be able to separate a little bit right.
Speaker 2: Then on the next drive, it's third nine and they
Speaker 2: completely vacate the middle of the field with two high
Speaker 2: safeties way out of the play like outside the numbers,
Speaker 2: twenty yards down the field and Cedric has the entire
Speaker 2: middle of the field a three way go inside outside
Speaker 2: vertical come like he had the entire football field to
Speaker 2: work with, almost one on one, playing against your brother
Speaker 2: in the backyard, and he just gets dominated up the
Speaker 2: entire route by Dane Jackson, pressed, re routed, undercut the
Speaker 2: route before.
Speaker 1: He made his move.
Speaker 2: It's just bad football, and it happened from several guys
Speaker 2: on the offense all night long. But back to Tua,
Speaker 2: this throw that we did connect to Cedric Wilson on
Speaker 2: the corner route could not have been better. Thirty yards
Speaker 2: beautiful touch falls right in the bread basket on a
Speaker 2: third and three play, and at this point I'm thinking, yeah,
Speaker 2: Tua came to play today. We're gonna win this game
Speaker 2: because the quarterback's playing great. He finishes the drive with
Speaker 2: great location on a speed out for a touchdown, but
Speaker 2: where only his guy could make a play, and Tyreek
Speaker 2: did finish it. But then halftime, first drive three and
Speaker 2: out despite two completions. The next throw of real consequence
Speaker 2: didn't come till fifty seconds left in the third quarter,
Speaker 2: a fourteen yard gain of Tyreek Hill. But the very
Speaker 2: next play was the one that I think changed the
Speaker 2: entire complexion of the game. After a Tron Armstead false start,
Speaker 2: we get overplay on a fake fly sweep and Tyreek
Speaker 2: gets cover three with a middle of the field safety
Speaker 2: who is pushed twenty yards off the football and chasing
Speaker 2: a different help zone. On this particular throw, the corner
Speaker 2: that's playing on Tyreek in that third coverage, third field deep,
Speaker 2: third field coverage, he's way behind the play in the dust,
Speaker 2: but the throw is low and behind. If he catches
Speaker 2: it and stride, there's a chance he goes either way,
Speaker 2: it's still a catch and at least ten more yards
Speaker 2: running after the catch, at minimum. If he scoops it
Speaker 2: off the ground and the call is upheld, it's second
Speaker 2: and one instead of second and fifteen. But the ball
Speaker 2: skips up into Tyreek. It's a huge, huge miss and
Speaker 2: a throw that Tua just He almost never misses those throws,
Speaker 2: but the last couple of weeks he's missed.
Speaker 1: A few of them.
Speaker 2: But then we make two throws on the penultimate drive,
Speaker 2: both hit Tyreek in the hands and go incomplete. The
Speaker 2: second one on third nine the balls in his lap
Speaker 2: beyond the sticks. It's a great anticipation throw, kind of
Speaker 2: moves the pocket and reads, reads out the coverage, and
Speaker 2: throws the ball right to where Tyreek is going to
Speaker 2: be in front of the defender. But Hide punches it
Speaker 2: and it comes out like squeeze the football man.
Speaker 1: But of course it.
Speaker 2: Was the final drive, the final throw that everybody will
Speaker 2: remember to me. The first I in t and the
Speaker 2: second one in the mists of Tyrek on the endbreaker.
Speaker 1: We just talked about before the punt return.
Speaker 2: Those were the three mega negative plays on Tua's card,
Speaker 2: But we also seemed allergic to helping him out. Drops
Speaker 2: inability to separate, can't make one guy miss in the
Speaker 2: open field. Just a bad night all around. Let's go
Speaker 2: ahead and do the pick and then get off this topic.
Speaker 2: But first before that, actually real quick, the first one
Speaker 2: before the first down, before the pick, and this is
Speaker 2: something I think Tua needs to take from and apply
Speaker 2: to get better at in the off season. He's reading
Speaker 2: a two man route combo to the boundary short side
Speaker 2: of the field right and he steps up into a
Speaker 2: clean pocket. It didn't have to do that. The pucket
Speaker 2: was good. It held and he shoots it to Tyreek
Speaker 2: on a corner route between the honey hole, the underneath
Speaker 2: cloud and the over the top half field safety. But
Speaker 2: Braxton Barrios comes clean underneath on that little the same
Speaker 2: route that Tyd Johnson ran on the drome Baker stick
Speaker 2: short of the goal line with the end of the
Speaker 2: first half. Like get five yards upfield and slant across
Speaker 2: the middle against off zone coverage and it's easy ten
Speaker 2: yards for a first down to move the chains get
Speaker 2: you inside the scoring range at that point. And I
Speaker 2: bring it up because he's not gotten to that look
Speaker 2: on that play all year. It's weird because sometimes he's
Speaker 2: so elite at going front side to backside, but then
Speaker 2: other times and it's usually pressure, he completely avoids it
Speaker 2: and just presses the ball into that spot. And the pressing,
Speaker 2: my gosh, it's happening all the time. It's gotta be
Speaker 2: a thing that you fix in the off season. Like
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's you know, we did jiu
Speaker 2: jitsu this offseason. I don't know if it's like, you know,
Speaker 2: controlling your breathing and getting you know, doing some Why
Speaker 2: can't I think of meditation, like, but man, we've got
Speaker 2: to calm down these big moments. The ball on the
Speaker 2: corner route too, was terrible because he actually was open.
Speaker 2: If he throws the ball to the white on the perimeter,
Speaker 2: Tyreek can probably plant defeat and make a catch falling
Speaker 2: out of bounds. But he leaves it too far inside
Speaker 2: and frankly it should have been picked off.
Speaker 1: So that was terrible. And then the pick, I mean.
Speaker 2: It's at some point you just have to learn to
Speaker 2: take off the gas a little bit because the throw
Speaker 2: on the pick just was not there. I do think
Speaker 2: that Claypool rounded his route way too much. But even
Speaker 2: then that ball needs to go into the stand. There's
Speaker 2: nothing there, and it's only second down. You have two
Speaker 2: more downs to work with. That's really it. It would
Speaker 2: have been a fine throw with a better route and
Speaker 2: the safety not driving before the receiver broke on the football,
Speaker 2: which happens because of eyes, right, and that's what happened,
Speaker 2: Like to his eyes took that tailor rap to the football,
Speaker 2: But we still had so much time. Like it's the
Speaker 2: same story for a lot of these games all year long.
Speaker 2: A lot of good, a few not so good, one
Speaker 2: two really bad, and seemingly in the biggest spots. On
Speaker 2: twenty plus airyard throws, he was two for six for
Speaker 2: forty seven yards with two interceptions. A lot of his
Speaker 2: picks have come down the field this year ten plus
Speaker 2: ariyard throws, five for thirteen, ninety five yards and two picks.
Speaker 2: It's just these, these top defenses have found the way
Speaker 2: to take that stuff off the field for us, and
Speaker 2: we have to find the way to adjust. It's there,
Speaker 2: and there's some fundamental things in your offense you can
Speaker 2: do to get there, but it just hasn't been there
Speaker 2: so far. He was blitzed only one time. He was
Speaker 2: zero for one. He was pressured on nine drop backs.
Speaker 2: He went four for nine with forty nine yards, and
Speaker 2: both picks came when he was kept clean real quick.
Speaker 2: The eligibles, Tyreek, I'm getting tired of this man. One
Speaker 2: of the best players in the world, a first spell
Speaker 2: of Hall of Famer, But what's the deal with the
Speaker 2: big what's the deal with the big game stuff? Every
Speaker 2: single one of them? Did he drop a touchdown in Buffalo?
Speaker 2: I forget am I mis remembering that I know he
Speaker 2: did against Philly. He had the game changing fumble against
Speaker 2: the Chiefs, dropped the ninety two yard touchdown against the Cowboys.
Speaker 2: That dropped last week, two critical drops in this one.
Speaker 2: That's every week man.
Speaker 1: Julian Hill.
Speaker 2: I'm excited to see what his year two evolution looks
Speaker 2: like because he is a fantastic addition in the run game.
Speaker 2: As a blocker, he has so many key blocks that
Speaker 2: he's a critical part of. But when you can take
Speaker 2: a guy like that and make him a threat in
Speaker 2: the passing game, that makes the offense exponentially more flexible
Speaker 2: and dangerous. We've seen that with Durham Smyth this year.
Speaker 2: I think Julian Hill can get that treatment again in
Speaker 2: his second year. Speaking of the players like that, Ingolden
Speaker 2: Smyth more of the same, so impactful around the edge
Speaker 2: in the running game. Would like to see more of that.
Speaker 2: The Bills want to know part of these dudes in
Speaker 2: the first half of the point of attack. Last note
Speaker 2: on the receivers, all the receivers besides Tyreek, the separation
Speaker 2: or lack thereof, I should say, was jarring in this game.
Speaker 2: Now I know what Chargers fans are can playing about
Speaker 2: you know, with Justin Herbert and whatnot. But like we
Speaker 2: saw with two of his first couple of years as well,
Speaker 2: the money downs were getting pressed and taking an extra
Speaker 2: you know, one one and a half seconds just to
Speaker 2: get into the stem. Then we're slow out of the
Speaker 2: break because we haven't done anything with suddenness or you know,
Speaker 2: explosiveness to force them to lean or force them to chase.
Speaker 2: Just got bullied by physicality from the snap to the
Speaker 2: top of the route. And this is big guys like
Speaker 2: you know, like Cedrick Wilson's not a small guy, Braxton is.
Speaker 1: I get that.
Speaker 2: But at Claypool, by the way, thanks for doing business man,
Speaker 2: Like that route is terrible, terrible, terrible route. I mentioned
Speaker 2: Cedric earlier, same story with Braxon Barrios. I love him
Speaker 2: for what he is, but I love the trust me
Speaker 2: having the run in the return game. But and look,
Speaker 2: those guys get paid too. But you have to make
Speaker 2: a move on Dane Jackson in an open space on
Speaker 2: that third down catch short of the sticks. You have
Speaker 2: to find a way to get the ball pass the sticks,
Speaker 2: whether it's run the route past the sticks or make
Speaker 2: him miss. You have to do it, like make a
Speaker 2: play and also it's fourth and inches, go for it.
Speaker 2: Just go for it, I would have on the offensive line.
Speaker 2: I hope they played pretty well. Pass Pro was connected
Speaker 2: all night long. They got surge in the running game.
Speaker 2: There were some plays where the Bills got more guys
Speaker 2: into the fit than we would have a designed unblocked
Speaker 2: man who would come down and make the play, which
Speaker 2: has happened a lot this year. But the Bills just
Speaker 2: really disrupted us up front in the game back in October.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the case in this one. I thought all the.
Speaker 2: Guys played pretty well across the board. I thought to
Speaker 2: Ron Armstead, if he didn't have all the penalties, would
Speaker 2: have had himself a spot in the top five tapes
Speaker 2: because he was moving guys off the spot in the
Speaker 2: running game really good in pass Pro the flags, heap
Speaker 2: them off the top five, but some really punishing one
Speaker 2: on one reps from him. Honestly, I don't think anybody
Speaker 2: had a bad night. I thought Rob Jones got done.
Speaker 1: Liam was good. Austin two.
Speaker 2: I thought the skill group was the group to let
Speaker 2: you down in this game, which is the lunchpin for
Speaker 2: how this team is constructed. So that's tough when your
Speaker 2: top guys have let you down all year long, really
Speaker 2: in these big games. So pressures allowed one for Teestead,
Speaker 2: one for Jones, three for Eichenberg, none for Hunt, and
Speaker 2: one for Austin Jackson. Last break right there. We'll come
Speaker 2: back on the other side. Defensive notes. That's next Draft
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Speaker 1: Final segment.
Speaker 2: Here.
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and get to the defense and get
Speaker 1: the hell out of here. So I thought there was
Speaker 1: a great mix in this game.
Speaker 2: They'd show man switch to trap, they'd show pressure and
Speaker 2: back off. They would bring the blitz on some third downs,
Speaker 2: back off on others. There was some zero, including that
Speaker 2: thirty six yard completions to Von Diggs where I thought
Speaker 2: the football was good all around because Eli Apple was
Speaker 2: right there.
Speaker 1: But Alan A.
Speaker 2: Digg just made a great play, great throw in a
Speaker 2: catch and man, what a great job they did against
Speaker 2: the run in this game, consistently shutting that thing down.
Speaker 2: The rush lane contain was fantastic. I mean on the
Speaker 2: interception for Wilkins and Sealer to beat Alan to the sideline,
Speaker 2: it's pretty damn impressive, man, And real quick, I know
Speaker 2: we don't do special teams here in the podcast be
Speaker 2: on surface level stuff, but ma'am cam Good was right
Speaker 2: in the hole on that hardy return where he would
Speaker 2: have made the stop if he didn't blow out his
Speaker 2: knee at very least make some change directions. But of
Speaker 2: course when your knee gives out, you can't make that play.
Speaker 2: Like a microcosm of the season, right, injuries lead to
Speaker 2: some tough spots, and this one played out real time.
Speaker 2: The worst part, by the way, about that tipped touchdown
Speaker 2: pass to Sherfield is the Eli Apple had undercut it
Speaker 2: and might have had it for a pick.
Speaker 1: But that's how the game goes.
Speaker 2: Man up front, Zack Seeler ten sacks is the most
Speaker 2: ever by a Dolphins defensive tackle. Thing about how impressive
Speaker 2: that is with all the guys you've seen come through
Speaker 2: this organization.
Speaker 1: Five pressures, two stops in the game.
Speaker 2: Van ginkle Man suck to see him go down the
Speaker 2: play on the second Allen interception, digs A lines in
Speaker 2: the backfield and looks like he wants to get a
Speaker 2: choice route on David Long.
Speaker 1: A's a little angle route, like a Texas route.
Speaker 2: Because the Bills ran all four of their other eligibles
Speaker 2: outside the numbers, but Gink re routes him and reroutes
Speaker 2: the wrong road. He road closed him. He shut that
Speaker 2: thing down, like go back the other way. He just
Speaker 2: dos these little things every single week that are so
Speaker 2: impressive in addition to all of his sack production and
Speaker 2: pressure production. Great year for Andrew van Gink. Hopefully we
Speaker 2: get him back for the Playoffs'll find out more about
Speaker 2: coach McDaniel here on Mondays. I'm talking to you before
Speaker 2: he does his press conference. He had three pressures in
Speaker 2: the game. Did vankinkle ingram? The way he dents the
Speaker 2: edge as a run defender is so valuable. He can
Speaker 2: really reset the edge and allow the scraping backer or
Speaker 2: sometimes safety like Brandon Jones to fill and make that play.
Speaker 2: But you have to tip your capta both he and
Speaker 2: Ogba because their workloads given the injuries to Gink and
Speaker 2: Good and the bills were marked. I fill those wheel
Speaker 2: routes and coverage behind it right because like we run
Speaker 2: these guys wide to these pass rushers, they ran us
Speaker 2: vertical in the in the coverage game, and you know
Speaker 2: they couldn't rotate them out like it was. It was
Speaker 2: tough to watch play out that way. But you know
Speaker 2: it's there's there's some weaknesses there, but the way he
Speaker 2: dents the edge of the running game I think is
Speaker 2: very impressive. Ogbah Man like he's a good player, but
Speaker 2: it's not the fit in the system here off ball linebackers.
Speaker 2: It's such a treat to watch David Long, the way
Speaker 2: he pursues with speed. The blitzing has been effective. He
Speaker 2: was in the face on that on Alan on the
Speaker 2: apple pick as well as the mist to dig, so
Speaker 2: really good stuff with the pressure standpoint there for David Long,
Speaker 2: five stops two pressures from him. Jerome Baker had three
Speaker 2: stops and two pressures. I'm so impressed by his toughness.
Speaker 2: The big hit was obviously just fantastic down by the
Speaker 2: goal line, but I thought he played so well coming
Speaker 2: in under control, wrapping up and making sure tackles, and
Speaker 2: that was kind of the theme all night. I liked
Speaker 2: how their short stuff and hookup routes were constantly met
Speaker 2: by an immediate tackler.
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's all a coincidence.
Speaker 2: How well connected we are back there with Jerome Baker
Speaker 2: being back in that communicator role, just something he's done
Speaker 2: for so long now and the secondary. I thought Javaon
Speaker 2: was a much smaller snap count, but I think they
Speaker 2: might have found something here with him going forward because
Speaker 2: he was on tight ends and the slot fitting the
Speaker 2: rundown in the box loot in this game, we've seen
Speaker 2: him play that single high middlefield safety position, but I
Speaker 2: think this allows him to make more of an impact
Speaker 2: even though he does both well. The thought of Ramsey
Speaker 2: X and Holland covering it ain't too bad man twelve
Speaker 2: covered snaps, no targets, and sixteen of his twenty seven
Speaker 2: snaps were in the slot. In this game, I thought
Speaker 2: Brandon Jones made that really bad play on the screen
Speaker 2: that led to a fifty yard run, but had a
Speaker 2: couple of splash plays behind lane scrimmage, one pressure, three
Speaker 2: stops he allowed fifty two yards on thirty seven covered snaps.
Speaker 2: And then how about Eli Apple, who I thought his
Speaker 2: best game is a Miami Dolphin, and I thought the
Speaker 2: interception was a perfect example of why you continuously put
Speaker 2: Eli Apple in the lineup because he knows what this
Speaker 2: defense calls for and what to do on certain reps
Speaker 2: and looks like he knows they have a all out
Speaker 2: blitz called on this third down and while Gabe Davis
Speaker 2: is taking way too long to square up and set
Speaker 2: the round up for the in breaker.
Speaker 1: Just takes too long. Apple squats and.
Speaker 2: Keys Josh Allen's eyes and when they get crossed up,
Speaker 2: he capitalizes on it. I thought he was pretty good
Speaker 2: in both man match and zone looks where he was
Speaker 2: you know, zone turn, keep your eyes in the quarterback
Speaker 2: type of stuff. He was in good position for most
Speaker 2: of the night. Twelve targets out of his forty six
Speaker 2: coverage snap. That's where Ramsey's top five tape comes into
Speaker 2: play here, because teams just don't try that guy.
Speaker 1: And PFF numbers were wonky on this one.
Speaker 2: There was two catches that they credited to him that
Speaker 2: I'm removing from that total because they just weren't on
Speaker 2: Heli Apple. But it was fifty six yards allowed. Maybe
Speaker 2: it's just stop doing the PFF thing.
Speaker 1: Huh uh cater coo who it's been a rough year
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 2: Man. Looking back at the stop before the Apple pick,
Speaker 2: he did interfere with Dawson Knox there, and if you
Speaker 2: slow that thing down, man, if he plays the ball
Speaker 2: and not the man, he could have ran through that
Speaker 2: thing and picked it off and gone the other way,
Speaker 2: because there was like Alan threw a floater out there
Speaker 2: and it kind of hung up in the air for
Speaker 2: a while.
Speaker 1: He also made a business decision on the.
Speaker 2: Josh Allen thirteen or third and thirteen scrabble on that
Speaker 2: final drive their their final first down of that drive,
Speaker 2: which is kind of crappy because his whole thing last
Speaker 2: year that made us all fall in love with him
Speaker 2: was tenacity and grit, right, But I just don't think
Speaker 2: this defense has really clicked for him this year, Like,
Speaker 2: and will it, you know, because I mentioned Holland is
Speaker 2: a slot defender and was he more of a man
Speaker 2: cover guy?
Speaker 1: Like I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'll go back and watch him specifically on tape this
Speaker 2: offseason and get a better feel for it. But I
Speaker 2: thought that he'd be a lot better than he has
Speaker 2: been this year. Thirty one covered snaps twenty eight yards,
Speaker 2: but man six hundred and three covered snaps this season
Speaker 2: seven hundred and twenty one yards, allowed, seven touchdowns, no picks,
Speaker 2: two PBUs, four penalties, and a one to thirty three
Speaker 2: point four passer rating. When teams target cater COOHU snap
Speaker 2: counts from the game and then we'll get out of
Speaker 2: here offensive line went the distance fifty two snaps for
Speaker 2: those guys as well as Tua at receiver. I mean,
Speaker 2: Cedric Wilson played ninety six percent of the snaps. Tyreek
Speaker 2: just forty reps in the game at seventy seven percent
Speaker 2: of the workload, and then Barrios is next with forty
Speaker 2: six percent.
Speaker 1: Like if I told you.
Speaker 2: In a must win situation, or I guess a critical
Speaker 2: game wasn't must win by the way, and ghost on
Speaker 2: Twitter like, well, my favorite people on Twitter must wins.
Speaker 1: Do you get the definition of win is if you lose,
Speaker 1: you're done. Do we understanding that? Okay?
Speaker 2: I think we I think we should all understand that
Speaker 2: in big games like this, If I told you back
Speaker 2: in August that Tyreek Hill and Jalien Wada would play
Speaker 2: forty snaps combined and Cedric Wilson and Braxon Barrows would
Speaker 2: play seventy four, you'd say, oh, we are in trouble.
Speaker 2: Great Craft played nine, Claypool four chosen two at tight end.
Speaker 2: Smyth got his usual three quarter workloads seventy five percent.
Speaker 1: Julian Hill got thirty three percent of the workload.
Speaker 2: Devon Han, your leading snap getter at running back, he
Speaker 2: played sixty three percent compared to Jeff Wilson's forty eight percent,
Speaker 2: and alec Ingold got one third of the snaps.
Speaker 1: That goes back to the second half.
Speaker 2: In the you know the game situation, right, I mean,
Speaker 2: had so few reps in the second half that Ingold
Speaker 2: should have had probably doubled that. But you can't get
Speaker 2: any first downs, you can't get the running game going
Speaker 2: on defense, Apple played the entire game.
Speaker 1: He was the only one.
Speaker 2: Ramsey missed just two snaps. He played seventy six and uh,
Speaker 2: let's see Deshaun Elliott played seventy two reps after it
Speaker 2: looked like he might not play the game because he
Speaker 2: left in warm ups earlier.
Speaker 1: That was a weird situation.
Speaker 2: More defensive backs, Brandon Jones played eighty percent of the reps,
Speaker 2: Cohu's sixty five percent, Javon Holland played just thirty five percent,
Speaker 2: Needam got six snaps in the game, Elijah Campbell three
Speaker 2: and Cam Smith two. The linebacker spot, David Long played
Speaker 2: eighty eight percent of the reps, Baker played fifty three percent,
Speaker 2: and Duke played forty seven percent. But by the way,
Speaker 2: I talked about Van Ginkle earlier, he's out for the
Speaker 2: game on Saturday, so is Jerome Baker, who had to
Speaker 2: get wrist surgery. So the fun continues for the Miami Dolphins.
Speaker 2: Injuries off the edge see Ingram led the one, I mean,
Speaker 2: you're playing a guy that just signed here three weeks
Speaker 2: ago as your primary you know, outside linebacker seventy four
Speaker 2: percent of the snaps, Ogba sixty percent, and then it
Speaker 2: was you know all the guys that you're Van Ginkle
Speaker 2: thirty seven percent before he got hurt, good fifteen percent
Speaker 2: before he gets hurt. And then you're playing you know,
Speaker 2: the guys up front, the Beefy Boys, Christian Wilkins ninety
Speaker 2: one percent, Zach Sealer eighty seven percent, whatd Rayqwan play
Speaker 2: forty six percent. DeShawn Han also played fourteen snaps in
Speaker 2: the game. So yeah, man, you're you're pretty deep into it.
Speaker 2: I think a focus on the podcast this off season
Speaker 2: is going to be more about the depth of the team,
Speaker 2: because clearly it's very, very important, and the death has
Speaker 2: been good this year, but when you have fifteen injured starters,
Speaker 2: it's kind of tough to overcome all that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, man, not fun, not fun.
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