WEBVTT - An Incredible Week for Democracy

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning, peep Sin. Welcome to Bokay, a daily with

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<v Speaker 1>Meet your Girl Danielle Moody recording from the home Bunker, Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot express on this good, good Friday, what a

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic fucking week America has had. And I say that

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that there are too many times when I come

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<v Speaker 1>on air where it is to share yet another disappointment,

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<v Speaker 1>another devastation and try to muster the strength to provide

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<v Speaker 1>you with some level of hopefulness. But on this good Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>waking up to the news that Britney Griner is free,

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<v Speaker 1>that after ten months in Russia in captivity, after being

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<v Speaker 1>sentenced to nine years for empty vape cartridges found in

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<v Speaker 1>her suitcase as she was working in Russia, because we

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<v Speaker 1>don't pay female athletes anything on par with male athletes

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<v Speaker 1>in this country, let alone just you know, women in general,

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<v Speaker 1>that required her to be in Russia on the offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>is finally released. President Biden. The Biden administration had been

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<v Speaker 1>working behind the scenes, as we know, to negotiate an

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<v Speaker 1>exchange and it was a one on one exchange with

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<v Speaker 1>a notorious arms dealer that had been in prison convicted

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<v Speaker 1>in New York and it was serving out a twelve

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<v Speaker 1>year prison sentence to be released in twenty twenty eight

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<v Speaker 1>has been swapped for Brittany Griner. Now, folks, do not

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<v Speaker 1>trouble yourselves with the bullshit that is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>coming out and that has already started spewing out from

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<v Speaker 1>the right about how this was a terrible decision on

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<v Speaker 1>Biden's part. And yes, of course, because we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>they don't give a fuck about black people, they don't

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<v Speaker 1>give a fuck about queer people, and they just want

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<v Speaker 1>to uphold Putin, you know, as their savior. Do not

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<v Speaker 1>let that news take away from what an incredible story

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<v Speaker 1>this is. Now we have no idea what kind of

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<v Speaker 1>condition Brittany Grinder is in, but we do know that

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<v Speaker 1>her healing process can begin now that she is finally

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<v Speaker 1>on her way home to her wife, to her family,

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<v Speaker 1>to her friends, to her teammates, to her community. This

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<v Speaker 1>comes on top of Georgia once again showing up and

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<v Speaker 1>showing out and denying white supremacy in the face of

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<v Speaker 1>voters suppression, in the face of all that is evil

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<v Speaker 1>that was propping up herschel Walker, the most unqualified man

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<v Speaker 1>to do mostly anything, but damn sure unqualified to be

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<v Speaker 1>a Senator of the United States. Defeating him at the

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<v Speaker 1>ballot and electing Reverend Warnock for a six year term

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<v Speaker 1>as a US Senator. To be the first black man

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<v Speaker 1>elected in Georgia for a six year term is nothing

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<v Speaker 1>short of herkey Land, and so I tweeted this earlier today.

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<v Speaker 1>It is not often that we get to celebrate victories

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<v Speaker 1>these days. It feels like we are always hanging on

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<v Speaker 1>by a thread. And so when victories do find themselves

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<v Speaker 1>at our doorstep, folks, embrace them, embody them, celebrate them,

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<v Speaker 1>uplift them, and hold them close to your heart, because

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<v Speaker 1>we will need that as energy to keep going, to

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<v Speaker 1>keep fighting, to keep persevering. This was an incredible week

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<v Speaker 1>for democracy, an incredible week for justice, and an incredible

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<v Speaker 1>week for freedom. And I can think of no one

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<v Speaker 1>better to join me in conversation with regard to how

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<v Speaker 1>we are closing out this midterm election and how we

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<v Speaker 1>are closing out this horrific traumatic experience for Britney Griner.

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<v Speaker 1>Then my friend the host of Make It Plane, the

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<v Speaker 1>Reverend Mark Thompson, that conversation is coming up next. Folks.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, for the entire year we have been doing

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<v Speaker 1>a countdown to the midterm elections with our good good

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<v Speaker 1>friend the Reverend Mark Thompson, host of Make It Plane,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know we were able to talk. Mark, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe it was the day, the day of the final

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<v Speaker 1>day to vote for midterm elections. Now the results are in,

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<v Speaker 1>and not only are the results in general of where

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<v Speaker 1>we stand as Democrats in both the House and the Senate,

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<v Speaker 1>but we have just completed what feels like Georgia's seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>thousandth election that it has had over the course of

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<v Speaker 1>this year. So I just want to get your initial

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts on, you know, based on all of our conversations

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<v Speaker 1>that we have had, how you think things have turned

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<v Speaker 1>out and how you feel about it. Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>as always a pleasure to be here with you. And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>first you have to congratulate Georgia voters for once again

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<v Speaker 1>black voters in the South and some white voters even

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<v Speaker 1>for saving America. I went over the course of the

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<v Speaker 1>past weeks and several days in Georgia canvassing with black

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<v Speaker 1>voters matter, and I felt as though I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. My conscience would not allow me to sit

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<v Speaker 1>idly by with the risk of my people waking up

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday morning and herschel Walker being in the Senate, I

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<v Speaker 1>just could not live with myself. So I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do something, as others did. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>my contribution to what Black Voters Matter had already been

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<v Speaker 1>doing in Georgia was just a drop in the ocean.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was thankful that they allowed me to participate

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<v Speaker 1>with them and go out and meet voters and talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people and encourage people to get out to vote. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, we operated under nonpartisan auspices. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you get people to vote, when you save the people,

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<v Speaker 1>this is your sacred, blood stained obligation to do this.

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<v Speaker 1>They tend to vote the right way. One woman, even

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday we engaged. She kept asking me, well, who

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<v Speaker 1>do you want me to vote for. I can't really

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<v Speaker 1>tell you that in this capacity, but I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>who to vote for. I said, we'll just vote, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I said, you don't know who to vote for?

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<v Speaker 1>And then she looked at me and she says, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I know who I don't want to vote for. I said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>then you need to act on that. You need to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact of the matter is, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>we say this enough, So I'm going to say it

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<v Speaker 1>as much as I can, Ladies and gentlemen, when one

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't vote, you are still voting because you're helping the

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<v Speaker 1>person whom you might not want to see in office

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<v Speaker 1>get in office, because you haven't cast your vote for

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<v Speaker 1>the other person, the right person, the person you've chosen.

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<v Speaker 1>So when that young woman said to me, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who to vote for, but she knew who she

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want to vote for, That's when I explained to

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<v Speaker 1>her how important it is to vote. And I've been

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<v Speaker 1>saying that to everyone. When you don't vote, you are

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<v Speaker 1>actually really voting. When people don't vote for Joe Biden

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<v Speaker 1>and they just assume he's gonna win, you're casting a

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Trump. Objectively, those of us who represent the

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<v Speaker 1>progressive community, whom also intersectionally represent what doctor King called

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<v Speaker 1>the beloved community before he died, the the the assignment,

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<v Speaker 1>the moniker, the designation that got him killed. We are

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<v Speaker 1>in the majority in America, African Americans and Latinos, all

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<v Speaker 1>people of color, Indigenous people, lgbt qia, the working class,

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<v Speaker 1>youth women. Obviously, we are in the majority voter. So

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<v Speaker 1>if we all vote, then we win. When we don't vote,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't and those non votes go to the benefit

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<v Speaker 1>of other people. So I was thankful to be a

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<v Speaker 1>part of that. It was exhilarating, although in exhaustive experience,

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<v Speaker 1>I still have not caught up on sleep. I was

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<v Speaker 1>on a zoom when I got back home, flew flew

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<v Speaker 1>back in the six am flight Wednesday morning. By four

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<v Speaker 1>o'clock Wednesday afternoon, I'm on a zoom and I literally

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<v Speaker 1>fell asleep on a zoom and everybody felt so sorry

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<v Speaker 1>for me. They just left me on his zoom. See

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not literally crashed out in the zoom all the

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<v Speaker 1>way back like this in the chair, just gone, and

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<v Speaker 1>everybody just you know, prayed over me and they understood,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had everybody's forgiveness later in today. But this

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<v Speaker 1>was important, and you're right, seventeen thousand times to be specific,

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<v Speaker 1>people had to vote five times in two years for

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<v Speaker 1>Raphael Warnock. Georgians are thankful they get to exhale from

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<v Speaker 1>voting every year for something. They get a little break now,

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<v Speaker 1>thank goodness, and they've earned it. But but God bless Georgia,

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<v Speaker 1>God bless all the voters, and God bless all of

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<v Speaker 1>you who contacted your friends and family and Georgia and

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<v Speaker 1>got them to get out to vote. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to tell you that I had uh Latasha James

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<v Speaker 1>on another show, um to to talk about the vote,

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the energy on the ground. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of what I want to talk about because I

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<v Speaker 1>think that we take for granted those of us who

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<v Speaker 1>live in quote unquote blue States, those of us who

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<v Speaker 1>live um in you know, in kind of democratic le

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<v Speaker 1>protected or so we think, protected areas and regions of

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<v Speaker 1>the country. We take for granted the exhaustion right to

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<v Speaker 1>your point about this, about the zoom, the exhaustion that

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<v Speaker 1>people of Georgia have faced over the last five years,

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<v Speaker 1>and how the policies have been in put in place

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<v Speaker 1>purposefully to exhaust the voters. And I just wanted you

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to, you know, share a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about what you heard from people on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>about the things, the ways that they have been you know, targeted, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine what it must have been like to

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<v Speaker 1>watch television in Georgia for the last like for the

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<v Speaker 1>last five years. I mean, this senatorial race, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>was historic in the amount of money that was spent

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<v Speaker 1>on advertising on targeting the people of Georgia. So I

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<v Speaker 1>just want to get a sense from you Mark about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the energy of the people there, right, the

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<v Speaker 1>resolve and the perseverance of the people of Georgia when

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<v Speaker 1>they are inundated with vote of suppression, when they continue

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<v Speaker 1>to be taxed year after year. Well, I was there

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<v Speaker 1>weekend and watching TV was not a pleasant experience, So

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<v Speaker 1>there is an inundation. Although I do think Ralphael Warnock

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<v Speaker 1>had the most effective commercials. Oh yes, I mean they

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<v Speaker 1>were clear, they were cutting people of all racest talking

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<v Speaker 1>about what was important in the election, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>that helped him. I mean it. Georgia showed out again

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<v Speaker 1>even on Tuesday in very respectable numbers. You talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the fatigue. I've never really bought into fatigue

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<v Speaker 1>and politics, but I have now because of Georgia. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and people imber with two people we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Clinton fatigue. Wow, I mean it's a blessing. People

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<v Speaker 1>didn't get Warnock fatigue having to go out and do

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<v Speaker 1>this all the time every year for the past five years,

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<v Speaker 1>practically for the past two years. Five times in the

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<v Speaker 1>past two years. I should say so, But I think

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<v Speaker 1>the commercials got over on people. I think that now

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for Georgia. So these need need to be

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<v Speaker 1>the next commercials. Now it's time for Georgia to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of this primary system. It no longer serves the

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<v Speaker 1>purpose that the white supremacists who set it up wanted

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<v Speaker 1>it to serve, because we are now empowered to vote.

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<v Speaker 1>It was originally meant to dilute our voting power, but

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<v Speaker 1>now that we've shown the discipline that we have, it's

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<v Speaker 1>made a difference. A matter of fact, Republicans are so stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>If the if there had been no runoff in the

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<v Speaker 1>first election with us Off, then us Off would not

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<v Speaker 1>be in the Senate and the Republicans would have a majority,

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<v Speaker 1>see because he lost it anyone to run. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're so stupid they set themselves up for that failure.

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<v Speaker 1>So so again, these are decisions. They make all decisions.

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<v Speaker 1>They may end up causing losses for them, So maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we shouldn't complain. Um, we beat back the red wave,

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<v Speaker 1>the so called tsunonymy tsunami, the tsunami, let forgive me

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<v Speaker 1>for and that never happening. So you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>that this is this is a turning point and a

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<v Speaker 1>major one. And let me just also say this, if

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<v Speaker 1>I could Danielle and feel free coming out because I

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm talking too much, um um, but I don't

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<v Speaker 1>get talking my own show. So when i'm against I

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<v Speaker 1>try to. You know what I'm saying. When you talk,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're host, you don't talk. You guests talk. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a guest. I get talked. I'm saying stuff, do

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<v Speaker 1>you I don't even get time to say on my

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<v Speaker 1>own show. Um in. This is the week, the week

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<v Speaker 1>of the runoff was the week of the anniversion of

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<v Speaker 1>my gummy best boy Cat. When was the last time

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<v Speaker 1>we as a people, or any people in America was

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<v Speaker 1>so disciplined as they were in nineteen fifty five to

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<v Speaker 1>not take the buses for over a year and walk

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<v Speaker 1>to work. Who Who's going to do that today? What? What?

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<v Speaker 1>What Americans are gonna do something like that? So selfless

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<v Speaker 1>and self sacrificing for the good of all today, that's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot to walk to work every day for three days.

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<v Speaker 1>So to put it in a relative context, going back

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<v Speaker 1>out and voting in numbers like this five times to

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<v Speaker 1>ensure that crazy people aren't seated in the Senate, especially

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<v Speaker 1>herschel Walker. It to me is reminiscent of the discipline

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<v Speaker 1>it took. It's not quite the same, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>in the same objective context, it is folking going to

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<v Speaker 1>walk to work every day for over a year now. People,

0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:57.800
<v Speaker 1>we're not made like that anymore. People aren't built that way.

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<v Speaker 1>We aren't built for that. But if we can go

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<v Speaker 1>out out in all these consecutive times to vote, then

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's an important thing. And frankly, everyone will say

0:16:11.080 --> 0:16:13.720
<v Speaker 1>that Jesus suffered and Dad, so we don't have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Those who who suffered during the Montgomery bus boycott, those

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<v Speaker 1>who died in Selma did so that so we wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to. So the least we can do is do

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<v Speaker 1>what we did and vote as we did in Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>during the runoff. Yeah, I mean amen to that in

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<v Speaker 1>so many different ways, because when people say, you know

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't vote, or one side is just as

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<v Speaker 1>bad as the other, you know, I get a sick

0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:47.160
<v Speaker 1>pit in my stomach because I do believe right, and

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<v Speaker 1>remember every time I vote, who died so that I

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<v Speaker 1>could be able to press that button, right like I

0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.760
<v Speaker 1>I think about that all the time, And that is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that that's the problem with teaching history, right,

0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:07.400
<v Speaker 1>with not reminding, having constant reminders, having constant anniversaries that

0:17:07.480 --> 0:17:10.399
<v Speaker 1>lift up the people who did sacrifice their own lives

0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:14.480
<v Speaker 1>so that yours could be better. So I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>Mark for lifting that up. The last thing I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say on Georgia is herschel Walker was an embarrassment,

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<v Speaker 1>was an embarrassment of a candidate, was an embarrassment of

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<v Speaker 1>so many different things. And I just wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>you if you think at all at all if Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>will learn anything from trying to prop up literally prop

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<v Speaker 1>up this man because he went on he by himself,

0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:54.480
<v Speaker 1>always had his white handlers with him. If they will

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<v Speaker 1>have learned anything from this loss and the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>candidates that they should be running moving forward. Well, see,

0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.880
<v Speaker 1>even when they lose, they win because I think they

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<v Speaker 1>actually get off on demoralizing us and putting people like

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<v Speaker 1>that up, so to some extent, you know, they still

0:18:20.920 --> 0:18:26.600
<v Speaker 1>got something out of that. They are probably more interested

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<v Speaker 1>at this point because they know it's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>challenging and continue to win elections with the changing demographics

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<v Speaker 1>in this country, So they're still interested in demoralization and

0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:41.280
<v Speaker 1>cultural attack and the preservation of white supremacy. So they

0:18:41.320 --> 0:18:44.600
<v Speaker 1>still got something out of that. They got a black

0:18:44.680 --> 0:18:49.800
<v Speaker 1>man to say out loud, he doesn't mind being called

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<v Speaker 1>a coon. Now, I had some white friends call me

0:18:53.440 --> 0:18:56.919
<v Speaker 1>and so, man, we don't know what to say. This

0:18:57.080 --> 0:18:58.600
<v Speaker 1>is just saying, you know, we don't want to speak

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<v Speaker 1>out about I'm saying you're just said on man, I'm

0:19:01.880 --> 0:19:05.480
<v Speaker 1>giving all white folks permission. Then whenever you see somebody

0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:08.880
<v Speaker 1>call themselves a coon, you have permission to call them out.

0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:10.600
<v Speaker 1>You know what I say, it's one of my friends.

0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:11.800
<v Speaker 1>What do you mean you don't know what to say?

0:19:11.840 --> 0:19:13.919
<v Speaker 1>You know what that is. You know what a coon is,

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<v Speaker 1>and how disgraceful that is? Say it, say something about

0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:19.320
<v Speaker 1>it called out? Well, I don't know because I'm not black. No, no, no,

0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't have to be black to say that an

0:19:22.480 --> 0:19:25.480
<v Speaker 1>African American referring to himself and embracing himself as a

0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:31.880
<v Speaker 1>coon is a setback and and something wrong there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you want to debate. You wanted to call me

0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and ask my permission. You know we're not Hey, let

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<v Speaker 1>me say this carefully. Were not like other folks who

0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.119
<v Speaker 1>don't allow others to speak about our experience. Hello, I

0:19:44.119 --> 0:19:46.680
<v Speaker 1>think you know y'all get that later, h and when

0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:51.960
<v Speaker 1>they're no consequences for its standing with us, in solidarity

0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:54.800
<v Speaker 1>with us to say, you don't need to call somebody

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<v Speaker 1>a coon, or you don't need to refer yourself as

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<v Speaker 1>a coon. So I don't know that they learn anything, Danielle.

0:20:04.880 --> 0:20:09.480
<v Speaker 1>There's there's a sickness that they still get off on

0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:13.320
<v Speaker 1>saying these things, doing these things, projecting these and having

0:20:13.400 --> 0:20:16.240
<v Speaker 1>him running around and saying those types of things. I

0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.159
<v Speaker 1>don't they they're not. I don't think for one minute

0:20:18.560 --> 0:20:21.920
<v Speaker 1>they're finished. They may ultimately be finished politically, they may

0:20:22.000 --> 0:20:24.280
<v Speaker 1>ultimately and they may know that, I mean sooner later

0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.160
<v Speaker 1>numbers are gonna bear that out. There is no way

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<v Speaker 1>that this is going to continue. So let you know

0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:32.560
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna you know, grasp, you know, hold on. What

0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:35.800
<v Speaker 1>did Charlton Heston say that those who will take a

0:20:35.840 --> 0:20:38.919
<v Speaker 1>gun from me, mister n ra A here, they have

0:20:38.960 --> 0:20:41.360
<v Speaker 1>to pride from my cold dead hands. You know, we're

0:20:41.359 --> 0:20:43.479
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to pride whatever, We're gonna have to pride

0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:47.800
<v Speaker 1>from those who ultimately will go to the grave because

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.679
<v Speaker 1>Father Time is undefeated. But um, I don't know that

0:20:51.720 --> 0:20:56.840
<v Speaker 1>they learned a dog on thing, switching gears with the

0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:59.760
<v Speaker 1>with the time that we have left. Um, you know,

0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:05.360
<v Speaker 1>it isn't often that I say I tweeted this as

0:21:05.400 --> 0:21:08.280
<v Speaker 1>that platform still stands, but on you know, it's like

0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:16.720
<v Speaker 1>a three legged stool that our celebrations are very far

0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:22.360
<v Speaker 1>and few between these days. Georgia being a major victory

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<v Speaker 1>for the Senate for democracy, for true leadership. Right. Brittany Griner,

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<v Speaker 1>after ten months in a Russian prison, after being sentenced

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<v Speaker 1>to nine years of hard labor in a Russian penal

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<v Speaker 1>colony for having empty vape cartridges that other people, mind

0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:55.160
<v Speaker 1>you in Russia, have just been deported for right, used

0:21:55.240 --> 0:21:59.280
<v Speaker 1>as a political tool in this geopolitical warfare that has

0:21:59.320 --> 0:22:01.800
<v Speaker 1>been going on between the United States and Russia for

0:22:01.880 --> 0:22:04.600
<v Speaker 1>quite some time. As Russia is in the midst of

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>war in Ukraine, has finally been released and been traded

0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:16.359
<v Speaker 1>for a Russian prisoner. I woke up to that news

0:22:16.400 --> 0:22:21.040
<v Speaker 1>Mark and was in tears because as a black queer woman,

0:22:22.119 --> 0:22:26.280
<v Speaker 1>my heart was breaking for Brittany to be held prisoner

0:22:26.600 --> 0:22:33.480
<v Speaker 1>in a known homophobic, abusive country. We know how little

0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.399
<v Speaker 1>we think about black people in this country and their worth.

0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:40.480
<v Speaker 1>So the idea that our government would actually fight for

0:22:41.119 --> 0:22:45.760
<v Speaker 1>her release. I want to get your reactions to this news.

0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.600
<v Speaker 1>It is great news. In fact, I'll put it this way,

0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 1>hang all the missile too. Brittany Ground is coming home

0:22:55.160 --> 0:23:02.520
<v Speaker 1>this Christmas. It's it's beautiful, it's touching. Um. And a

0:23:02.560 --> 0:23:05.880
<v Speaker 1>lot of hard work went into this. And I'm gonna

0:23:05.880 --> 0:23:08.520
<v Speaker 1>say something else that might sound controversially some people are

0:23:08.560 --> 0:23:11.760
<v Speaker 1>getting credit and taking credit for this, but it was

0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of folk, including some of you who are

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:20.000
<v Speaker 1>our listeners, who join us in these prayervisials to to

0:23:20.240 --> 0:23:28.679
<v Speaker 1>bring her home. Um. Some represented that some of the

0:23:28.680 --> 0:23:31.919
<v Speaker 1>things we were preparing to do, go out in the streets,

0:23:32.000 --> 0:23:34.320
<v Speaker 1>have more privilege, which really always was a plan which

0:23:34.640 --> 0:23:37.720
<v Speaker 1>we were planning to be in the streets more, to

0:23:37.760 --> 0:23:39.960
<v Speaker 1>be at the we we had provisions at the Russian

0:23:39.960 --> 0:23:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Embassy and the Russian Consulate. We were going to do more.

0:23:46.080 --> 0:23:48.400
<v Speaker 1>And then some folks, well, don't do that, because that's

0:23:48.440 --> 0:23:50.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna upset the White House, and the White House is

0:23:50.000 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna look bad and the Russians. But Malcolm said, bandon

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:59.879
<v Speaker 1>means necessary. The very assertion that there were those of

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.080
<v Speaker 1>us who might do that made the White House get

0:24:03.200 --> 0:24:08.359
<v Speaker 1>up an act. So it worked. So I want to

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:12.080
<v Speaker 1>commend those who involved in all those all those efforts.

0:24:12.560 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 1>Victoria Kirby York at the National Black Justice Coalition, one

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:23.800
<v Speaker 1>of our LGBATS, great LGBT organizations, Angela Rye, Tamika Mallory,

0:24:25.160 --> 0:24:29.800
<v Speaker 1>rem doctor Barber, so many who were involved in that

0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:33.159
<v Speaker 1>process that that kind of moved the White House to

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:38.160
<v Speaker 1>do something. It's high time she come home. Um, I'm

0:24:38.400 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm grateful. I'm overjoyed as well. It makes me

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:46.159
<v Speaker 1>emotional too because the thought of that sister in that

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>condition was absolutely horrifying, and we've yet to learn exactly

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:55.120
<v Speaker 1>how she was treated. I was on a call earlier

0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.159
<v Speaker 1>today and even some of the government officials are going

0:24:58.200 --> 0:25:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to give her the send the support to decide when

0:25:02.000 --> 0:25:09.680
<v Speaker 1>she wants to share, Yeah, what her experience was. So, Um,

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm glad that she's home and we all should

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.199
<v Speaker 1>celebrate this. It's it's been from the run off to

0:25:18.240 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 1>Brittany Grinder, Well, we'll remember the week when all of

0:25:21.880 --> 0:25:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that happened as one of the greatest weeks in our time. Yeah,

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and you know, and I will say that I cannot imagine, um,

0:25:33.880 --> 0:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>what she was put through for those ten long months.

0:25:38.680 --> 0:25:43.080
<v Speaker 1>But my heart rests easy that her healing, which will

0:25:43.119 --> 0:25:51.600
<v Speaker 1>probably be lifelong UM emotional, mental, physical healing UM, can

0:25:51.640 --> 0:25:56.000
<v Speaker 1>begin as as as she makes her way back home

0:25:56.000 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 1>to her wife and to her family, to her friends,

0:25:59.440 --> 0:26:04.359
<v Speaker 1>to her team mates, and to the community. As you said, Mark,

0:26:04.480 --> 0:26:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that has lifted her up in prayer, in coverage for

0:26:08.760 --> 0:26:13.640
<v Speaker 1>the last ten months brought attention where without that attention,

0:26:14.280 --> 0:26:18.879
<v Speaker 1>who knows what her fate UM would have been. And

0:26:18.920 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 1>I think that it's really important for people to recognize.

0:26:21.200 --> 0:26:24.879
<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes we say that if the only action

0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.160
<v Speaker 1>that you can do is to share something, to share

0:26:27.160 --> 0:26:30.399
<v Speaker 1>a photo, to share some information, that all of us

0:26:30.440 --> 0:26:32.560
<v Speaker 1>have a voice and have a platform, whether it's for

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:36.359
<v Speaker 1>five people or five million people. And I don't want

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to downplay the fact that you know, images of her,

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>articles of her you know, t shirts, all of these

0:26:44.480 --> 0:26:48.160
<v Speaker 1>things were made and done to continue to have her

0:26:48.320 --> 0:26:51.679
<v Speaker 1>name be said so that she wouldn't be erased and

0:26:51.720 --> 0:26:55.720
<v Speaker 1>that she wouldn't be forgotten. That those things are powerful.

0:26:56.119 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, we we we all don't um march y'all

0:27:00.359 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>can't afford to give money, UM, but understand that lifting

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:08.879
<v Speaker 1>her name up and her presence up is what also

0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:14.399
<v Speaker 1>played a part um in in having her en route home. Um.

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:17.400
<v Speaker 1>Mark last question for you, you know, as we get

0:27:17.440 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>ready to turn the page on this year and go

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:26.440
<v Speaker 1>into twenty twenty three, Um, you know what what what

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:30.479
<v Speaker 1>message do do you want to send to people who again,

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 1>this has been a weary year. Right, we're we're hopefully

0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:37.680
<v Speaker 1>going to be ending on these on these high notes,

0:27:37.680 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>but it's been a weary, long year that has tested

0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:45.760
<v Speaker 1>uh so many parts of our country, our democracy, our

0:27:45.840 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 1>wherewithal um and so what do what do you what

0:27:49.160 --> 0:27:51.159
<v Speaker 1>message do you want to leave for folks as they

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:55.000
<v Speaker 1>prepare to close out this year and begin anew in

0:27:55.040 --> 0:27:58.639
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three? What, as the scripture says, let us

0:27:58.800 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 1>not grow weary in well doing Danielle for in due

0:28:04.000 --> 0:28:07.760
<v Speaker 1>season season we shall reap if we don't lose heart.

0:28:09.080 --> 0:28:14.360
<v Speaker 1>That has borne true in our experience in twenty twenty two.

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:19.480
<v Speaker 1>We didn't give up. We didn't give up, and we

0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>stopped the juggernaut that was predicted from the right wing.

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:29.440
<v Speaker 1>We stopped it. And they may have a majority air

0:28:29.560 --> 0:28:33.280
<v Speaker 1>quote in the House, but it's a very slim one.

0:28:33.760 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And if someone sneezes that majority might be gone overnight.

0:28:38.600 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 1>We've held the Senate, we gained governorships. None of this

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>has happened. No incumbent has held President has held the

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Senate in the midterms this way since nineteen sixty two.

0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.440
<v Speaker 1>No incombent president has gained governorships this way since the

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:07.240
<v Speaker 1>thirty since Roosevelt. So this is the reward, folks, for

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:13.000
<v Speaker 1>eternal vigilance, for not growing weary. We have reaped the harvest,

0:29:13.080 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>and so we should use this and be energized by

0:29:15.600 --> 0:29:21.320
<v Speaker 1>this to go forward. Let's make voting up and down

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:26.600
<v Speaker 1>the ballot, throughout the ballot second nature, just second nature.

0:29:26.960 --> 0:29:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Just make that the absolute priority. And all were doing

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:31.160
<v Speaker 1>once has become second nature. We won't even realize. There's

0:29:31.400 --> 0:29:34.400
<v Speaker 1>like blinking our eyes. We won't even realize we're doing it.

0:29:34.440 --> 0:29:39.560
<v Speaker 1>And we will vanquish those who would continue to disenfranchise us,

0:29:39.560 --> 0:29:43.120
<v Speaker 1>that would continue to take away our bodily autonomy, that

0:29:43.160 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>would continue to discriminate against us on the basis of

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:51.160
<v Speaker 1>race or gender or sexual orientation, that would bring harm

0:29:51.760 --> 0:29:55.280
<v Speaker 1>to our loved ones, that would that would allow those

0:29:55.760 --> 0:29:59.200
<v Speaker 1>who are law enforcement officers to continue to lynch us

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:01.959
<v Speaker 1>and to subjugate those who are immigrants to all types

0:30:02.000 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of harsh treatment. When we do that, we will continue

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:11.040
<v Speaker 1>to win. So, folks, celebrate now what we've done, but

0:30:11.200 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 1>remind yourselves that it happened because of you and because

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:20.360
<v Speaker 1>none of us grew weary. Reverend Mark Thompson, thank you

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.360
<v Speaker 1>so much for making time for us all year long

0:30:23.560 --> 0:30:26.080
<v Speaker 1>in our in our monthly conversations. I tell you that

0:30:26.160 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I have deeply appreciate appreciated them. I look forward to

0:30:30.480 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 1>continued conversations into twenty twenty three, and I wish you

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:37.960
<v Speaker 1>a happy, healthy New Year. If I don't get to

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:41.880
<v Speaker 1>speak to you on air before them, well all of

0:30:41.920 --> 0:30:45.080
<v Speaker 1>you and your entire audience, that woke air audience, may

0:30:45.120 --> 0:30:49.480
<v Speaker 1>God bless you all. Merry Christmas, Happy Kuanza, happy honek

0:30:49.560 --> 0:30:53.080
<v Speaker 1>or whatever holiday you celebrate. Me me, all the peace

0:30:53.080 --> 0:31:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and joy be yours. That is it for me today,

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:06.760
<v Speaker 1>dear friends, on this good, great Friday. As always, power

0:31:06.800 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>to the people and to all the people. Power, get

0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 1>woke and stay woke as fuck.