WEBVTT - Conversations About The Street Urban Perspective

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<v Speaker 1>Malone from locks.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh Mine doesn't have a lock and they would have

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<v Speaker 4>locked Then I got locked in and I had a

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<v Speaker 4>call and be like, yeah, guys, I'm in three oh

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<v Speaker 4>four and I'm you locked me in?

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<v Speaker 5>Well why are you in there? Eh?

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<v Speaker 6>Got tired?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you think that's the true source to economics though? Like,

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<v Speaker 3>like micro managing budgets? What do you mean, Like, is

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<v Speaker 3>that the true source that like as some black people

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<v Speaker 3>like to say financial freedom, I don't really like that term,

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<v Speaker 3>but you feel like that's the true source to financial

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<v Speaker 3>freedom is micro managing money.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just understanding what you have to what it takes,

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<v Speaker 4>and what your best path is to get to that point.

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<v Speaker 4>You have to understand what it's going to require in

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<v Speaker 4>passive income and how your path to creating that level

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<v Speaker 4>of passive income occurs.

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<v Speaker 5>It can be however you want it to be.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's more about passive income.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, financial freedom is the freedom to make money with

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<v Speaker 4>free time. So if you need if your budget is

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<v Speaker 4>I need eight thousand dollars a month to do whatever

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<v Speaker 4>I want, then your literacy is just understanding what it

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<v Speaker 4>takes to have a low entropy, predictable eight thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>a month stream, whether that's working a bazillion jobs and

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<v Speaker 4>saving your money or working one and being really a

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<v Speaker 4>student investor and getting good returns to a point where

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<v Speaker 4>you can divest them out or whatever it might be.

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<v Speaker 5>There's a different ways to skin a cat.

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<v Speaker 4>You's got to know what kind of cat do you

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<v Speaker 4>want and where do they sell those cats?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that really something worthy of pursuing though, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>That's basically what most everybody does for retirement. Some people

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<v Speaker 4>just want to start the clock earlier.

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<v Speaker 3>M It's funny because this is such an interesting commas

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<v Speaker 3>about how it's an interesting segue to get to the

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<v Speaker 3>conversation how of what I wanted to talk about right,

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<v Speaker 3>which King was asking me and I almost lost my

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<v Speaker 3>train of thought. But so there's two type of medias

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<v Speaker 3>that we say hip hop media, right, So again it's

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<v Speaker 3>street urban culture. So there's people within the culture and

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<v Speaker 3>then there's people that's outside of the culture. Now the

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<v Speaker 3>hip hop media or street urban the artistic.

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<v Speaker 1>Merit of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a lot of it outside of the culture now,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's a lot of people who didn't grow up

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<v Speaker 3>in street urban culture.

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<v Speaker 6>Are they trying to mimic the street urban culture? Are

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<v Speaker 6>they just looking at it? No, they're just covering it. Okay,

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<v Speaker 6>covering it.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But then again, it's like no different than a

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<v Speaker 3>like a guy that never played basketball or didn't study basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>or the closest they came was watching games, right, And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think there's nothing wrong with that. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 3>sound crazy, and I think my homeboys get it confused

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<v Speaker 3>that I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a problem with that. Like I don't have

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<v Speaker 1>a problem with Steven A.

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<v Speaker 3>Smith, Well steph Ate Smith actually played organized ball, he

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<v Speaker 3>just didn't look like he was that good. But let's

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<v Speaker 3>say like a DJ Flad or let's say like a

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<v Speaker 3>like a like Adam twenty two.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have a problem with them covering I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>one of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Few brothers that's like, oh you know what, they're not

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<v Speaker 3>from it like, but there are certain things that bother

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<v Speaker 3>me about the conversation Pete. It's like true, like right now,

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<v Speaker 3>like I saw a tweet from Academics where he was

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<v Speaker 3>saying he like he was giving advice or what he

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<v Speaker 3>thought should have happened with big Baby, like right now

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<v Speaker 3>that he's like in this case, it's like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, why do these guys and even some of

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<v Speaker 3>my homeboys, even a d and pun like if we're

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<v Speaker 3>in the group chat, it's like, you know, these guys

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<v Speaker 3>get on here talking about crime. They're only hired because

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<v Speaker 3>they're criminals or gangsters and crips. Like Adam twenty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Can go get a journalist that went to college that

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<v Speaker 3>has a skill set trade in journalism, right, But his

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<v Speaker 3>platform is not about journalistic you know, like professional journalism.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a professional platform, but it's all about three urban

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<v Speaker 3>cultural perspectives. And I always applaud that he understands that

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<v Speaker 3>better than people with that grew up with it as

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<v Speaker 3>a as a as as a part of how we live.

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<v Speaker 3>They have a different value for it. Vlad Adam act Blocko.

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<v Speaker 3>All the people that didn't grow up and the people

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<v Speaker 3>that grew up in it don't see the value in it, right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always put.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of pressure on my homeboys, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean about understanding what your task is. What see

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have the burden of responsibility, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>people get mad at. They like, well wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>you cover it. You should be responsible, you know what

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<v Speaker 3>I mean? For the people in it, that's not what

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<v Speaker 3>they do. But the problem is when you're from it,

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<v Speaker 3>now there's a burning and I don't know if that's fair, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know now seeing it out loud, am I

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<v Speaker 3>being unfair putting that responsibility on them?

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<v Speaker 5>The responsibility would be on the other people.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're a gangster and you go on their show

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<v Speaker 4>to be interviewed, the burnen responsibilities on you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I just said.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but I mean, and I think to get a

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<v Speaker 4>perspective on anything, like let's say crime, for example, just

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<v Speaker 4>off my own personal observational experience, you don't get a

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<v Speaker 4>truly complete picture asking a criminal about crime.

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<v Speaker 5>You probably need to get three people.

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<v Speaker 4>You need to ask a criminal, a police officer, and

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<v Speaker 4>a neutral party.

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<v Speaker 5>What's funny to get a holistic perspective.

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<v Speaker 3>What's funny is when we design gangster chronicles. That's how

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<v Speaker 3>I that was my idea, Right, a criminal, a criminologist,

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<v Speaker 3>and a person who saves crime. So that's somebody who

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<v Speaker 3>commits crime, somebody who studies crime.

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<v Speaker 1>Is somebody who solves crime. That was the idea.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why Reggie, James and Alex were the three people

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<v Speaker 3>that it'll been that perspective of crime. But don't look

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<v Speaker 3>at it that way. So street urban culture is a

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<v Speaker 3>little more unique than just crime. Right, it's a culture.

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<v Speaker 5>That I.

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<v Speaker 1>Got you.

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<v Speaker 6>I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know how certain vegetations grow or certain insects

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<v Speaker 3>developed when they're around volcanoes. Yeah, it can be a snail,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's a specific type of snail because of the environment.

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<v Speaker 3>You know it when it grows up on a volcano.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was looking at this really dope snail. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>tell you right now, why are you doing I got

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<v Speaker 3>a question, go ahead now.

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<v Speaker 6>Is because of the way the media shows it as

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<v Speaker 6>like you said, add on them, guys, versus the way

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<v Speaker 6>that the culture shows it. What you mean, shows hip

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<v Speaker 6>hop in the culture, Like you said, the people inside

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<v Speaker 6>the culture, you know, don't know the value. But the people,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like you gave examples of hacking them guys,

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<v Speaker 6>see the value of the culture even though they're not

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<v Speaker 6>in it. Is it all the way that it's shown.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that that's true in this space, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's true in anything. Like if you were to take

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<v Speaker 4>somebody from like a really poor environment, urban or rural

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<v Speaker 4>whatever and take them to Beverly Hills, they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>oh my god, I sound like a Ferrari and everybody

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<v Speaker 4>there's like, well, well you got to get to the

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<v Speaker 4>grocery store. You know, they wouldn't give it a second thought.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's kind of can play both ways in that

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<v Speaker 4>regard to if you're if you're but no something.

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<v Speaker 3>Ironically, I don't think you get played both ways, like

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<v Speaker 3>like for some reason, because there are more There are

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<v Speaker 3>more Beverly Hills than there are ghettos.

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<v Speaker 1>Weirdly, mmm, that's true.

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<v Speaker 6>Mentally, maybe I think I think.

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<v Speaker 4>I disagree in media space, that's probably true. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>think that that's true by any of.

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<v Speaker 6>The neighborhoods that feel their Beverly Hills and really not that.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's the point of it, right, wouldn't that be

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<v Speaker 3>the point of it. There's more suburban areas than there

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<v Speaker 3>are Okay, I said, yeah, I agree with that. So

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<v Speaker 3>even in the upper scale area like Beverly Hills, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if you go to Beverly Hills, it's not quite the movies,

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<v Speaker 3>just like when you go to the community, it's not quite.

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<v Speaker 3>If that was the case, people would just go shoot

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<v Speaker 3>their videos in Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 1>They of them do not, really, there's very few.

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<v Speaker 6>When they get arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, for sure they gonna get they pulled.

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<v Speaker 4>Up in the Hollywood Hills or whatever the hell and

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<v Speaker 4>they shoot their videos up and all that ship.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's my point, like there would be there's

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<v Speaker 3>really no reason for people to come specifically to the ghetto.

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<v Speaker 1>At all.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>Outside the media's presence because they produce, they produced, like

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<v Speaker 6>the ghettos the place to go be.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it's me, that's what I'm saying that,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I'm telling you and Pete, Like, there's really

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<v Speaker 3>no reason for people to go to the ghettos at

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<v Speaker 3>all if.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not from there.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree. I mean, but again, it's.

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<v Speaker 5>Like that's why I used to get pulled over when

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<v Speaker 5>I was there.

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<v Speaker 1>Like what are you doing here? Bro? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>All right, where's the drugs and hookers? I'm like, that's

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<v Speaker 4>what I'm trying to figure out.

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<v Speaker 1>No seilings g L my brother Peter and the house player, Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my big brother King over here getting into

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<v Speaker 3>this crazy thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Head over to www.

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<v Speaker 3>Dot the cryptstore dot com, t H G C R

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<v Speaker 3>I P S t O R E dot com and

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<v Speaker 3>grab something so King could got a quarter commercial. King

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<v Speaker 3>can fulfill the order on time fast. Yeah, I was

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<v Speaker 3>thinking about that. But the burden of it's like you're saying, right,

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<v Speaker 3>It's like that's the burden of it, right. I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>blame Vlad when he sits down, when he sits down

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<v Speaker 3>with somebody that comes from this perspective life right like

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<v Speaker 3>this this environment, I don't blame him. If they say

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<v Speaker 3>something that incriminates themselves, I don't blame Adam for it.

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<v Speaker 3>I keep telling people that they understand the appeal of

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<v Speaker 3>us better than we do. Even the people that exist

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<v Speaker 3>in the space that do cover that type of content,

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<v Speaker 3>they don't really appreciate the space, but they understand its value,

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<v Speaker 3>right because they name their shows in specific correlations to

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<v Speaker 3>said community.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they name it.

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<v Speaker 3>That way, like let's say, people that's within the space

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<v Speaker 3>that cover you know, that's like a hip hop media

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<v Speaker 3>the community. They spell it cuz on purpose. Back on

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<v Speaker 3>fig they big is a community thing. Back on fig

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<v Speaker 3>to even use that title fig. White people don't call

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<v Speaker 3>figaroa fig. I mean unless you peek. But the average

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<v Speaker 3>person that's figure out the street big is a A

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<v Speaker 3>is a cultural Inuindo. It's a nickname for that specific

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<v Speaker 3>street and it means something more than where the Staple

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<v Speaker 3>Center at the Staple Center is not on fig The

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<v Speaker 3>Staple Center is on FIGAROA.

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<v Speaker 1>The Hoover Criminal Gang is on fig The whole Strow

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<v Speaker 1>is on fig but allegedly yeah, but is on FIGAROA.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, looking at his show, you say, you know, guys

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<v Speaker 4>go on there and they self incriminate or whatever. A

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<v Speaker 4>lot of them were doing that anyway, that that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of how they got on the show.

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<v Speaker 5>There's no shortage of people that go.

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<v Speaker 4>On social media trying to blast off for status about

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<v Speaker 4>what they've been doing on there. And probably to some degree,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't go through everybody. A lot of those people

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<v Speaker 4>gateway their exposure from their own social media platforms. People

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<v Speaker 4>see them, they get some virality. Next thing you know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're on a podcast and they're on another show and

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<v Speaker 4>whatever else. So like they kind of started that on

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<v Speaker 4>their own time, and we're selected because they were doing

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<v Speaker 4>that and because of the provocative nature that it attracts

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<v Speaker 4>an audience.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's be honest, like they wouldn't have the jobs

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<v Speaker 3>without it, oh Adam and them, No, no, not Adam,

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<v Speaker 3>the people doing the jobs like like a brig baby

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<v Speaker 3>or oh ad Like the reason Adam would hire an

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<v Speaker 3>ad Or t Rail is not because he's trying to

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<v Speaker 3>do a good favor for brothers from the streets, which

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<v Speaker 3>that does come with it, but I'm saying it's also

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<v Speaker 3>because he understands the street curbon, the street urban culturals thing.

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<v Speaker 6>So basically Adam's just buying an interpreter. Oh Adam the

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<v Speaker 6>bridge between him and the streets. You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>He's jail. I know.

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<v Speaker 4>But instead of bringing on guests who star in movies

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<v Speaker 4>and TV shows, because that's the theme of his entertainment show,

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<v Speaker 4>his theme is street crime type of thing.

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<v Speaker 5>So he brings on people like that, but.

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<v Speaker 1>He keeps the same once basically on no.

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<v Speaker 3>So, but he hires them because they provide a cultural

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<v Speaker 3>avenue opens up the perspective. Not it doesn't open up

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<v Speaker 3>the culture to him because he can't just still go

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<v Speaker 3>walk down fig even though he hired he hired uh

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<v Speaker 3>t Rail or he can't go walk down Avalon because

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<v Speaker 3>or Central because he hired you know what you said,

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<v Speaker 3>he could get the view of it. He understands what

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<v Speaker 3>he's selling. Whack under Whack, I just realized something. Whack

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<v Speaker 3>is a civilian and he's been a civilian. He been

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<v Speaker 3>had that, he been built this multi million dollar trucking business.

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<v Speaker 3>He ain't committing no fucking crimes, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like everybody I watched to sit down with,

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't watch it. Forgive me, that's a lie. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>be telling them a lie because I don't want people

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<v Speaker 3>to ask him questions. I didn't watch it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>saw a picture.

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<v Speaker 1>It was it was Lore in England. It was Actvlad Whack.

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<v Speaker 3>And somebody else, right, and it was all these people,

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<v Speaker 3>and I realized, like, oh, none of these people really

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<v Speaker 3>are into that thing, and they're giving you this very

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<v Speaker 3>kind of I mean somebody who don't have the true information,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, They really only have it

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<v Speaker 3>from this limited scope. And I was thinking about the

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<v Speaker 3>people within the culture and how they're operating about the

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<v Speaker 3>same subject.

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<v Speaker 1>It was really different. But then like I watched people

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<v Speaker 1>like I watched.

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<v Speaker 3>Act condemn him, and I'm like, well, he was like,

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<v Speaker 3>oh man, but brick Baby probably shouldn't have been talking

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<v Speaker 3>about what he was doing. I'm like, well, the only

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<v Speaker 3>reason he got the job is because he is from

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<v Speaker 3>six to Oh, the only reason Fox Extra's got the

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<v Speaker 3>job is because he's from Folti's the only reason people

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<v Speaker 3>get that job is because they're from the culture that's

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<v Speaker 3>from this walk of life. And it's people saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what they shouldn't be talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>They crime.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I could imagine glasses low bro in two thousand,

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<v Speaker 3>two thousand and two, when I'm selling sharm every day.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, like I probably wouldn't have took the job.

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<v Speaker 3>But in two thousand and three or four, when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>tired of selling sharm every day, somebody come and say, hey, man,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give you a thousand and fifteen hundred dollars

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<v Speaker 3>just to give your perspective on current topics and hip hop.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm saying, I could imagine what I

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<v Speaker 3>would be talking about. I didn't go to college for journalism,

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<v Speaker 3>fear me, I was bre I was an underdeveloped rapper

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<v Speaker 3>at that point, right, So it's like I would be

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<v Speaker 3>saying the same things I would be relating it. And

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<v Speaker 3>the funny part is about them brothers, is cause like them,

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<v Speaker 3>niggas talk about a million things, but the things that

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<v Speaker 3>stick are the things that people respect them as experts in.

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<v Speaker 3>I guess the point of this part of this thought

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<v Speaker 3>is like it's easy for us to talk shit about

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<v Speaker 3>these people now, or people to talk shit about them,

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<v Speaker 3>because it's like, yeah, but they only got the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to change their life because of what they've been through. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>do I think it has a value to Adam and

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<v Speaker 3>everybody else?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course?

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<v Speaker 3>It's again, this is one of those things that I

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<v Speaker 3>keep saying, people outside of is understand how valuable it is.

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<v Speaker 1>People inside of it, don't you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Like they just don't do they not?

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<v Speaker 4>Or do they understand how valuable it is, but they

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<v Speaker 4>don't understand or at least appropriately or proficiently like create

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<v Speaker 4>a distribution mechanism to capitalize on that value. Because it's

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<v Speaker 4>like as soon as they get the opportunity, they jump

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<v Speaker 4>at it. They realize that they're valuable. Obviously they see

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<v Speaker 4>other people being used for value. But as it's you know,

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<v Speaker 4>not complicated, it's easier to get on somebody else's show

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<v Speaker 4>than to maybe possibly create your own show out of

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<v Speaker 4>whole cloth.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it's not easier, right, It's harder to create

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<v Speaker 3>your own show, right, But it's not that right. It's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>so the thing that fuels street urban lifestyle is to

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<v Speaker 3>be recognized. Remember, Like I know, like you believe in

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<v Speaker 3>racism to somebody oppression, but I'm saying it's way worse

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<v Speaker 3>than you could think. This poverty is way worse than

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<v Speaker 3>you can think because it makes you feel ignored or invisible,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like nobody knows you exist.

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<v Speaker 3>So coming from that type of cloth, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's natural in humans, but it's like ten times worse.

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<v Speaker 3>And people that come from like where I come from, Right,

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<v Speaker 3>I get that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like.

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<v Speaker 4>A lot of those cultural underpinnings and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>That's like that that's my whole that's my whole thing.

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<v Speaker 4>Like that's my entire.

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<v Speaker 5>Thing. That's my whole thematic deal.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah no, no, yeah, And I'm not taking away from it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying, so it's all about being recognized. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Like that's how it works, even at the street level

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<v Speaker 3>before the Internet. Right, It's like you wrote your name

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<v Speaker 3>on the wall illegally, people can figure out who you were,

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<v Speaker 3>like you know, glasses logo on the wall, Like that's illegal,

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<v Speaker 3>and the police know that you wrote that because it's

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<v Speaker 3>your name on the wall. Not only that, right, Pete,

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<v Speaker 3>you probably crossed something out in there. Yeah, but now

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<v Speaker 3>like a person that you then disrespect it on that wall,

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<v Speaker 3>they know they are aware of your existence.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but there's like being recognized for free, being recognized

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<v Speaker 4>for illicit profit, and then being recognized for legitimate profit.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, So to transition A to B to C.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, might be easier to just go from A

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<v Speaker 4>to to be to somebody else's C then to go

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<v Speaker 4>from A to B to your own organically created entrepreneur.

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<v Speaker 1>See, you know, I mean, if I think, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>the point.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if they had I think, if most people

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<v Speaker 3>had the intellect to do it, they probably be doing

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<v Speaker 3>something different. They probably wouldn't be doing that. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 3>watching H. H. Young and from a trade do it

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<v Speaker 3>right now, you know, building his own platform. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he did get some interviews, but he's building his own platform.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you know, it's it's a different journey, which

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<v Speaker 3>again it all goes into the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You go from again, the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>That fuel street life, fuels this right to to It's

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.160
<v Speaker 3>all the same thing. You're tired of being invisible, You're

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<v Speaker 3>tired of being You want to matter, you want your

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<v Speaker 3>name you want your legacy, You want things to mean

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<v Speaker 3>something to people.

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<v Speaker 1>You want the world to know you exist.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, So if you look at street life, right King,

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<v Speaker 3>no matter if it's Yo gen to my gen or

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<v Speaker 3>any other gen, that's the vining point and that's that's

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<v Speaker 3>what makes it, that's what makes it revolved to be recognized.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's no different than going up to a platform

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<v Speaker 3>where people want to talk to you about this life

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<v Speaker 3>that you live. It seems like, you know, hey, people

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<v Speaker 3>noticing me, and then you realize, you know, like, oh shit,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have to do crimes anymore. Like they will

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<v Speaker 3>pay me just to be me. That's like hella empowering,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? Like that's hella empowering. And

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<v Speaker 3>it's not like rap. Like rap I had to develop

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<v Speaker 3>a talent, somebody had to be talented enough to make

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<v Speaker 3>the music. Somebody got to be talented enough to market it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a thousand things could if they ask you this question,

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<v Speaker 3>is the wrong people getting that power?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean the wrong people getting which like.

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<v Speaker 6>The people that's getting on these platforms, are they helping society?

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<v Speaker 6>Are they getting people locked up? Are they telling on people?

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<v Speaker 6>What is it helping the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody listen, even in this particular case, it's happening. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a real person telling it has like everybody keep thinking

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<v Speaker 3>this to you know, I guess because they mentioned it

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<v Speaker 3>inside that indictment paper that oh this is because they

0:22:05.320 --> 0:22:08.119
<v Speaker 3>locked themselves locked up. No, they have somebody actually telling

0:22:08.119 --> 0:22:11.800
<v Speaker 3>them police on the crimes. And then now that the

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<v Speaker 3>things are made for the general public and maybe to

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<v Speaker 3>swaye certain people within the system like oh yeah, see

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<v Speaker 3>they even admitted.

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<v Speaker 6>It in the podcast shows and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that's after again, like they can't just come

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<v Speaker 3>arrest you because you satting on the podcast and said

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<v Speaker 3>you did something. They would have to actually go to

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<v Speaker 3>prove it because you got to get warrants and a

0:22:31.480 --> 0:22:33.400
<v Speaker 3>thousand other things. You can't just say, hey, they sitting

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<v Speaker 3>on the podcast. So again, it's one of those things

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<v Speaker 3>to make it to some degree taint the jury pool mhm,

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<v Speaker 3>to some degree, taint the jury pool to some degree,

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<v Speaker 3>like make you know, to make people look like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know again, it's it's that make it look like

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<v Speaker 3>it's glorified, like they don't care. Yeah, like that you

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<v Speaker 3>kind of yeah, like they don't really care. That's why

0:23:02.920 --> 0:23:07.480
<v Speaker 3>they're bragging about it. And again, because these platforms are

0:23:07.560 --> 0:23:12.040
<v Speaker 3>rooted in street urban cultural experiences and perspectives, everybody is

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:15.040
<v Speaker 3>vying and trying to validate who they are when it

0:23:15.080 --> 0:23:18.000
<v Speaker 3>comes culturally, and that's where it looks like, oh, they're

0:23:18.000 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 3>bragging about a crime. Like even that conversation that one

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.160
<v Speaker 3>of the guys had, he was saying, this is why

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<v Speaker 3>him and he felt like this person was betraying him,

0:23:26.320 --> 0:23:29.960
<v Speaker 3>and this is why because this thing happened, and this

0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:32.320
<v Speaker 3>thing happened, and I had to do this and I

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<v Speaker 3>had to give this.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel me.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's like, I get the complex journey from the streets,

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<v Speaker 3>out of the streets into a place to where you're

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<v Speaker 3>not having to commit crime to take care of yourself

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<v Speaker 3>or make a living. So, you know, I think it's

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<v Speaker 3>easy for a lot of people who never did any

0:23:51.400 --> 0:23:53.080
<v Speaker 3>crime in their life to sit back and go like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what you see they just telling on their

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<v Speaker 3>showf That's how it's like, Bro, it's way more complex

0:23:57.800 --> 0:23:58.360
<v Speaker 3>than that.

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<v Speaker 1>Swag.

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<v Speaker 3>More complex. And I'm with Pete in a sense that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I don't blame them. A lot of people

0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:12.040
<v Speaker 3>do blame them. I think they have responsibilities. Not really,

0:24:12.440 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 3>then people are not from this. Their whole goal is

0:24:15.720 --> 0:24:16.360
<v Speaker 3>to monetize.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh you talk about like adding them guys providing the platform.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean they have a platform. Yeah, you know what

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:23.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>And consider like how slow motion like real time actually is.

0:24:30.800 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 5>So you have.

0:24:33.320 --> 0:24:39.520
<v Speaker 4>A piggybank that calls you and says, hey, I've seen

0:24:39.560 --> 0:24:42.639
<v Speaker 4>you or heard about you based off of et cetera.

0:24:42.960 --> 0:24:45.679
<v Speaker 4>Stuff that you probably don't want out in the public,

0:24:46.400 --> 0:24:49.960
<v Speaker 4>at least not in this regard. Come on to my show.

0:24:51.600 --> 0:24:54.840
<v Speaker 4>I want to hear about your story. You're already showing

0:24:54.920 --> 0:25:03.440
<v Speaker 4>up on the premise that it's like, not say glorified,

0:25:03.560 --> 0:25:07.399
<v Speaker 4>but like you're you're showing up to receive a congratulations

0:25:07.600 --> 0:25:12.680
<v Speaker 4>effectively and rudimentary speaking for what you did exactly.

0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:14.560
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and then.

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:17.600
<v Speaker 4>You asked a question, so you're here to tell this story.

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 4>Then you get asked a follow up question, and a

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.840
<v Speaker 4>follow up question and a follow up question. And the

0:25:23.840 --> 0:25:26.520
<v Speaker 4>more you talk, the better you feel, and the more

0:25:26.560 --> 0:25:30.199
<v Speaker 4>they ask you, the more probing it it becomes. The

0:25:30.280 --> 0:25:33.000
<v Speaker 4>more stuff gets exposed over and over again, and there's

0:25:33.040 --> 0:25:36.239
<v Speaker 4>no consequences. It's not like something happens to you that

0:25:36.400 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 4>day or that hour. No, you might be on there

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.440
<v Speaker 4>for six seven episodes over the course of a month

0:25:41.480 --> 0:25:44.639
<v Speaker 4>and a half, and you mentioned two or three stories

0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:49.120
<v Speaker 4>that were implicated in five hours of talking and.

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:52.240
<v Speaker 5>It's out there now.

0:25:52.400 --> 0:25:52.920
<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, but my question was earlier, Like I said earlier,

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:02.000
<v Speaker 6>is it that these platforms allowing you know, part of

0:26:02.040 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 6>the culture to come up and speak, But it's that

0:26:04.600 --> 0:26:08.560
<v Speaker 6>culture speaking in a way that's gonna profit the rest

0:26:08.600 --> 0:26:09.240
<v Speaker 6>in the culture.

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<v Speaker 3>So everybody's not going up there. So a lot of

0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:16.840
<v Speaker 3>people culturally are just where they're from. It's not about

0:26:16.880 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 3>it is it's gonna make everybody in my community benefit. Okay,

0:26:20.640 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 3>that's not the thought. The thought is they're finally being heard.

0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:26.680
<v Speaker 6>So it's just more selfish than humanity.

0:26:26.880 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 3>I don't even know if I would use the word

0:26:28.280 --> 0:26:34.359
<v Speaker 3>selfish as much as self empowering, because it's not like

0:26:34.560 --> 0:26:36.640
<v Speaker 3>they don't go up there thinking it's gonna hurt everybody,

0:26:37.920 --> 0:26:39.199
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying. They don't go up there

0:26:39.240 --> 0:26:42.160
<v Speaker 3>thinking like yo, if I express this perspective, it's gonna

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:45.719
<v Speaker 3>hurt everybody. So you know that would be selfish, Like, well,

0:26:45.760 --> 0:26:47.560
<v Speaker 3>I don't care what happened to them. It's more or

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:51.000
<v Speaker 3>less like like Peter's saying, there's a there's a therapy

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 3>element to this that's not being spoke about, whereas like, right,

0:26:54.720 --> 0:26:59.800
<v Speaker 3>somebody finally hears me, somebody who has all of the

0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 3>the millions of years because that's what they feel like, right,

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:05.640
<v Speaker 3>and they care about what's going on with me, or

0:27:05.720 --> 0:27:08.280
<v Speaker 3>in some of these niggas cases, they've been hired to

0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.639
<v Speaker 3>give their cultural perspective, and again they're not prepared for

0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:14.720
<v Speaker 3>it from a journalistic standpoint. They don't really have a

0:27:14.800 --> 0:27:19.720
<v Speaker 3>journalistic idea of how to go about a journalistic idea

0:27:20.000 --> 0:27:23.360
<v Speaker 3>on how to go about a tackling a subject. They

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:29.840
<v Speaker 3>just have this cultural perspective, you know what I'm saying.

0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:33.240
<v Speaker 1>And it's like I was just thinking about that and

0:27:33.320 --> 0:27:35.880
<v Speaker 1>I was like, man, I don't.

0:27:35.640 --> 0:27:38.440
<v Speaker 3>Know what to do to get people inside of the culture,

0:27:38.560 --> 0:27:41.200
<v Speaker 3>people that grew up with this, to really truly get

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:44.040
<v Speaker 3>the value. The way that I see it, I see

0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>it the same way Adam act.

0:27:46.400 --> 0:27:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Where any of the other guys see it. I see

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:48.600
<v Speaker 1>it like that.

0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 3>And it's funny, Even before I understood it the way

0:27:51.880 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 3>I do now, I always valued it that way. I

0:27:55.680 --> 0:27:58.640
<v Speaker 3>carry myself, like, bitch, I suvived some shit to get here.

0:27:59.080 --> 0:28:01.280
<v Speaker 3>Like I tell people all the time, like, don't get

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:03.960
<v Speaker 3>me wrong, it's people flying in airplanes over me when

0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.280
<v Speaker 3>it comes to career wise and hip hop. They got

0:28:06.400 --> 0:28:10.760
<v Speaker 3>airplanes right, but guess what, they probably started on a

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 3>speed boat right, going up ain't a thing. I'm from

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:18.560
<v Speaker 3>the trench. I'm from the Marianna trenches for real. The

0:28:18.640 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 3>pressure is different going where I started at the pressure

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.800
<v Speaker 3>of water just sheer on my head, Like, it's more

0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:28.639
<v Speaker 3>people that have been seven miles up then there have

0:28:28.720 --> 0:28:31.960
<v Speaker 3>been people seven miles down. So there's very few things

0:28:32.000 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 3>that come from seven miles down. So even if I'm

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:38.160
<v Speaker 3>right now on top of the water in a rowboat,

0:28:39.160 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 3>if I'm in a rowboat, I have made more progress

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.400
<v Speaker 3>than somebody that came from a speedboat to an airplane.

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 1>They're the same motherfucker.

0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 3>Just off sheer pressure that I had to deal with

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 3>coming from where I came from.

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>So I've always valued it that way.

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:58.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm also somebody that don't do no drugs, don't drink nothing.

0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:02.720
<v Speaker 3>So I realized what I was surviving. I realized what

0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:06.479
<v Speaker 3>I survived. Everybody else don't realize what we survived. They

0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 3>they'll know it when they're argument, but they don't realize

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:12.680
<v Speaker 3>it as this beneficial experience thing. And that's a unique

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:15.720
<v Speaker 3>place to be because again, like I said, people outside

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:17.600
<v Speaker 3>that didn't grow up in this, they grew up, they

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:20.160
<v Speaker 3>understand it. Act got on purely off of the war

0:29:20.200 --> 0:29:25.840
<v Speaker 3>in Schiraq. It was the only platform bringing you that initially.

0:29:26.080 --> 0:29:28.600
<v Speaker 3>So again that street urban culture that he brought that

0:29:28.720 --> 0:29:32.080
<v Speaker 3>to you, that created his following at this level. He

0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:33.960
<v Speaker 3>might do have some skills and talent.

0:29:34.000 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's background in journalism, but I'll tell

0:29:36.440 --> 0:29:39.239
<v Speaker 3>you one thing that was important. But that type of

0:29:39.320 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 3>power because you have access to that, just being a

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.760
<v Speaker 3>brother is Hella rewarding. And it worked out for him.

0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm watching Flocko build his thing right now off of

0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 3>LA Like here's a perfect example. Blocko and Ad covered

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:57.720
<v Speaker 3>the exact same thing, right he covered the trial eighty

0:29:57.760 --> 0:29:59.520
<v Speaker 3>took his time, sat down and read all one hundred

0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 3>and seven of that indictment like Floco. Ad is going

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:08.360
<v Speaker 3>to be treated completely different when he starts to break

0:30:08.400 --> 0:30:12.959
<v Speaker 3>down that document than Flaco because a D carries the

0:30:13.000 --> 0:30:15.080
<v Speaker 3>burden of culture. This is why I always say hip

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 3>hop is the burden or the responsibility of culture, because

0:30:19.040 --> 0:30:22.000
<v Speaker 3>Flocko doesn't have that. He can be wrong, he can

0:30:22.200 --> 0:30:25.560
<v Speaker 3>journalistic and reported it. That won't even matter. Nobody gonna

0:30:25.560 --> 0:30:27.720
<v Speaker 3>call his phone or very few people. If a d

0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 3>does it, it's different. He is burden and balled down

0:30:31.800 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 3>and it looks crazy when he does it because he's

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 3>of said culture, because he's of said culture. Same for pun,

0:30:41.680 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 3>same for t Reil, same for you know, Schmack or

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:46.120
<v Speaker 3>any home.

0:30:46.320 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>That's what it is. So that's the trick with being

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:50.840
<v Speaker 1>with like.

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 3>That's how I carry hip hop, you know what I mean,

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:01.000
<v Speaker 3>That's how I carry hip hop. I carry it like

0:31:01.600 --> 0:31:05.880
<v Speaker 3>you know what, this ship might not really you know,

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 3>this ship might not like like, I'm not finna just

0:31:09.360 --> 0:31:14.600
<v Speaker 3>give this to everybody. I'm not just gonna give this

0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:19.600
<v Speaker 3>to everybody. Everybody just can't get this. Everybody. You know,

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:21.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not gonna stamp everybody with this. I'm not gonna

0:31:22.000 --> 0:31:23.640
<v Speaker 3>get I thought it was valuable.

0:31:25.240 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 6>So when you go on shows and talk, you don't

0:31:27.680 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 6>give everybody your full perspective of hip hop or you Yeah, okay.

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm sure I've said something that was incriminating before

0:31:36.120 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. But again, you know that

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 3>just comes along with the experience, You know what I mean.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.440
<v Speaker 3>My perspective is gonna be unique. Hell, how I think

0:31:45.440 --> 0:31:48.840
<v Speaker 3>about crime is unique than the average person. So even

0:31:48.880 --> 0:31:53.080
<v Speaker 3>something that may be self incriminating to mainstream society, to

0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.400
<v Speaker 3>me could be culturally righteous. And I'm okay with it.

0:31:57.160 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 6>Hey, Pete, thinking about what you said got me on

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:02.520
<v Speaker 6>to asked this question. So a lot of these shows

0:32:02.880 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 6>that these platforms present for the culture or parts of

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:09.400
<v Speaker 6>the culture always end up with crime related stories.

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, al it seems like there's a disproportioned

0:32:14.040 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 4>amount of that. And okay, there's always an interest, Like

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:21.760
<v Speaker 4>there's a huge like sub genre, you know how you

0:32:21.800 --> 0:32:24.800
<v Speaker 4>see with the biker gangs, there's that says one percenter, right,

0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:27.200
<v Speaker 4>mm hm, that's kind of like.

0:32:28.280 --> 0:32:31.760
<v Speaker 5>Broadly applicable to society at large.

0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 4>Ninety nine percent of people follow the rules, one percent

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 4>don't give a fucking don't and the ninety nine percent

0:32:38.960 --> 0:32:43.320
<v Speaker 4>are fascinated by the mentality of the one percent who

0:32:43.360 --> 0:32:47.040
<v Speaker 4>got it in them to say fuck it.

0:32:48.200 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 5>And and that's why biker.

0:32:50.240 --> 0:32:54.480
<v Speaker 4>TV shows got popular, Mafia movies were popular, game bang,

0:32:56.480 --> 0:33:01.440
<v Speaker 4>drug trafficking. Anybody who says the rules, I'm gonna do

0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:03.840
<v Speaker 4>what I want to do, consequences be damned.

0:33:04.440 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 5>Most people aren't wired that way, so they're fascinated by that.

0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 5>So it's almost like you hear the expression.

0:33:09.520 --> 0:33:12.400
<v Speaker 4>Sex cells, you show enough ass cheeks, people are gonna look.

0:33:13.160 --> 0:33:16.320
<v Speaker 4>If you talk enough about that one percent, there's enough

0:33:16.360 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 4>people in the ninety nine percent who are gonna be

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 4>interested in it's because of something, but they can't either

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 4>realize in real life or they fantasize whatever it might be. Yeah,

0:33:28.680 --> 0:33:32.720
<v Speaker 4>sex sales and crime cells because it's against the rules,

0:33:32.720 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 4>and hip hop whole premise is being against the rules.

0:33:36.080 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 3>Now they not necessarily all against crime, but the rules

0:33:39.840 --> 0:33:43.040
<v Speaker 3>are different. Always say, one of my favorite expressions is

0:33:43.160 --> 0:33:46.640
<v Speaker 3>that I realized was the first hip hop lessons most

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:49.320
<v Speaker 3>people get is when you go to school, when you're

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:52.440
<v Speaker 3>a kid, the first time somebody hit you, you feel me,

0:33:52.800 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 3>and you go tell your parents if they tell you

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:56.800
<v Speaker 3>to hit they ass back.

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Your ass is hip hop. You grew up in street

0:33:59.360 --> 0:33:59.840
<v Speaker 1>urban coature.

0:33:59.880 --> 0:34:02.680
<v Speaker 3>Now, however you decide to express artistically, you grew up

0:34:02.720 --> 0:34:05.560
<v Speaker 3>in the culture because your parents are immediately telling you

0:34:05.600 --> 0:34:07.720
<v Speaker 3>to break the rules.

0:34:09.440 --> 0:34:10.000
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't want to use the term responsible, but parents

0:34:13.920 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 3>who believe in the system of America will say, hey,

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:19.680
<v Speaker 3>go tell the principal or tell the teacher. People that

0:34:19.719 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 3>grew up how we grew up, right, break the rules.

0:34:22.880 --> 0:34:26.759
<v Speaker 3>Kick his ass, you know what I'm saying. So it's like,

0:34:27.960 --> 0:34:30.000
<v Speaker 3>I just noticed that, and I want that, like a

0:34:30.000 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of these people wouldn't be on these situations if

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.600
<v Speaker 3>they didn't have this that one percent, that one percent

0:34:36.680 --> 0:34:37.760
<v Speaker 3>or lifestyle.

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 1>To offer as a as a as a.

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:46.960
<v Speaker 6>Perspective, sure is an authentic perspective to offer from their

0:34:47.200 --> 0:34:49.160
<v Speaker 6>own personal experience.

0:34:49.440 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 1>Depends on the person. I think that's the goal.

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.759
<v Speaker 3>But they also, like people don't understand the US part

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:59.319
<v Speaker 3>of it all, the US part of it all. There's

0:34:59.360 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 3>an US in culture that's not being spoken about. And

0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:06.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, again having access like right now, even in

0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:12.360
<v Speaker 3>this particular uh, in this particular loss, in this particular indictment,

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:15.399
<v Speaker 3>people think it's about the gang and it's not. But

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:17.879
<v Speaker 3>the media, in the in the federal government is smart

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 3>enough to get the public on their side by saying, hey,

0:35:21.560 --> 0:35:26.280
<v Speaker 3>we got the leader of this gang. So people immediately

0:35:26.320 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 3>are mislabeling it. Oh, this is a rico of the

0:35:29.760 --> 0:35:32.719
<v Speaker 3>Rolling Sixties. That's not what's happening. This is of this

0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:37.880
<v Speaker 3>particular man's organization. People on that, on that, on that picture,

0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:40.120
<v Speaker 3>that that that that were picked up in charge. All

0:35:40.120 --> 0:35:42.200
<v Speaker 3>of them people ain't from No. Six to Oh they're

0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.680
<v Speaker 3>not from no gang. Everybody not from everybody not from

0:35:45.719 --> 0:35:49.320
<v Speaker 3>that gang. But again, the media and the federal government

0:35:49.400 --> 0:35:52.760
<v Speaker 3>is smart enough to draw the interest, like Peters saying,

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.279
<v Speaker 3>of the general person. So it's like, hey, we got

0:35:55.280 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 3>the big bad leader of the Rolling Sixties.

0:35:59.239 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, versus from the community that grew up in

0:36:02.880 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 1>the community. Yeah.

0:36:04.200 --> 0:36:07.200
<v Speaker 3>Whatever, you think, he's from whatever gang. But he's been

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:09.399
<v Speaker 3>helping people, you know, since he came home. He made

0:36:09.400 --> 0:36:11.719
<v Speaker 3>it his decision to help kids and to do the

0:36:11.760 --> 0:36:14.200
<v Speaker 3>best he can and make away. I mean, if they

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:17.600
<v Speaker 3>explain the story for what it really is, you know,

0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 3>people can really say they'll be more attentive. That makes sense,

0:36:22.200 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. You can't do anything. But

0:36:23.600 --> 0:36:26.560
<v Speaker 3>if you look like you're taking down, you know, the

0:36:26.680 --> 0:36:31.319
<v Speaker 3>notorious leader of a huge popular crip gang, guess what

0:36:32.040 --> 0:36:34.480
<v Speaker 3>you have The media like, oh okay, so now you

0:36:34.640 --> 0:36:37.960
<v Speaker 3>just have a bunch of people swam public opinion of Like,

0:36:38.080 --> 0:36:39.719
<v Speaker 3>you know, no matter how we say, it's going to

0:36:39.760 --> 0:36:41.800
<v Speaker 3>take the jury pool, you have a bunch of people

0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:45.719
<v Speaker 3>swam public opinion on what's happening already. And that's why

0:36:45.760 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I feel like people that grew up in the culture,

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:54.280
<v Speaker 3>their job is to keep the ninety nine percent together, like, hey, look,

0:36:54.920 --> 0:36:58.920
<v Speaker 3>we're not that different, you know what I mean, Like,

0:36:59.080 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 3>especially when it comes to the media side of it.

0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:06.719
<v Speaker 3>And that's why I feel like the burden falls on

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:09.080
<v Speaker 3>that perspective from people within the culture.

0:37:12.520 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's not fair.

0:37:13.760 --> 0:37:15.960
<v Speaker 3>Like I always say, being black I said this the

0:37:15.960 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 3>other day, being black is not about me just waking up.

0:37:19.360 --> 0:37:22.960
<v Speaker 3>Being black is my my care and my and my

0:37:22.960 --> 0:37:26.360
<v Speaker 3>my concern for other black people. That's what being black

0:37:26.520 --> 0:37:30.800
<v Speaker 3>is like. Being a human is not just existing. Being

0:37:30.960 --> 0:37:35.400
<v Speaker 3>humane is to care about other humans, right, So being

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 3>black is the same thing.

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.200
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a it's an interest into other black people.

0:37:39.880 --> 0:37:43.400
<v Speaker 6>I never really thought about just being black, like I'm black.

0:37:44.440 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 5>I never thought either.

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:50.400
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it's like I'm just being black, Like what's being black?

0:37:50.480 --> 0:37:53.440
<v Speaker 6>I'm black? Like, I never thought about that, you know,

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:56.920
<v Speaker 6>I thought about you know, the situations on men, but

0:37:57.080 --> 0:38:00.799
<v Speaker 6>not just being black. I can't think of any time

0:38:00.840 --> 0:38:06.439
<v Speaker 6>I thought about being some other color except like skinny.

0:38:07.920 --> 0:38:09.879
<v Speaker 6>I never thought wanted to be white. I just wanted

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:12.959
<v Speaker 6>to be light more like my cousins, like skinny, because

0:38:12.960 --> 0:38:16.240
<v Speaker 6>that sho be revered, you know, like, but never white

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 6>or never any other color, just like wow, I be

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 6>the color of my cousins.

0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:23.799
<v Speaker 3>But again, if if being black was as simple as

0:38:23.840 --> 0:38:25.560
<v Speaker 3>skin it just it wouldn't make sense.

0:38:25.400 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 1>That's say.

0:38:25.880 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 6>So I never thought about being black. It was just

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:28.640
<v Speaker 6>is what it is.

0:38:28.840 --> 0:38:32.360
<v Speaker 3>So now that's why I said when I express it

0:38:31.880 --> 0:38:36.239
<v Speaker 3>to be truly of culture, to truly be of people, right,

0:38:36.560 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 3>And the verb of being of people is to care

0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:43.040
<v Speaker 3>about people, so that space right. That like again humane,

0:38:43.080 --> 0:38:45.359
<v Speaker 3>the verb of being a human humane is to care

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:49.920
<v Speaker 3>about other humans. So I don't know, man, I just

0:38:49.960 --> 0:38:52.799
<v Speaker 3>like I said, it's a tough task for people on

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.399
<v Speaker 3>that media side, you feel me that come from street

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 3>urban culture, because they are burden with the responsibility of

0:38:59.560 --> 0:39:02.959
<v Speaker 3>hopefully understanding that they need to convince the other ninety

0:39:03.040 --> 0:39:06.600
<v Speaker 3>nine percent of people, Hey, it's not as different as

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:12.080
<v Speaker 3>you think, Like it's already really different. It's already really different,

0:39:12.120 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 3>Like Peter is saying, like it's already the way we

0:39:14.160 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 3>see crime and rules are completely different.

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:19.640
<v Speaker 1>The nerve of these people to be breaking.

0:39:19.320 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 6>The rules, Hey, Pete, some of them stories I'll be

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:25.360
<v Speaker 6>hearing about crime and crime stories, I be one to

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:30.160
<v Speaker 6>challenge them as being true. Some I think be fluff

0:39:30.280 --> 0:39:31.239
<v Speaker 6>just for the stories.

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:34.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm sure that that happens.

0:39:35.520 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 6>Like they heard somebody else tell a story, now it's them. Yeah, yeah,

0:39:41.120 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 6>I mean from my perspective, I see that a lot.

0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:45.200
<v Speaker 6>When I be hearing story, I'd be like, wait a minute,

0:39:45.680 --> 0:39:49.120
<v Speaker 6>that definitely didn't happen like that in the system. I've

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:54.120
<v Speaker 6>been there. So that's why I said, given the true

0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:58.040
<v Speaker 6>authentic perspective of what they've been through versus something they

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.759
<v Speaker 6>heard or made up just so they could be recognized.

0:40:01.080 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>But even in artistic merit, it's made to be storytelling rated.

0:40:07.840 --> 0:40:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I remember one day I met somebody and they was like, glasses, man,

0:40:10.480 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 3>you if you sold drugs, why you don't dress like

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Rick Ross, like the rapper. In their mind, that's how

0:40:18.000 --> 0:40:23.320
<v Speaker 3>drug dealers dressed. Because the depth of their understanding Nino

0:40:23.440 --> 0:40:28.359
<v Speaker 3>Brown or the rapper rose right. It's like so they like, oh,

0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 3>that's how drug dealers dress or it's like if you

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:33.200
<v Speaker 3>look at New York and you be like glass, you

0:40:33.239 --> 0:40:35.000
<v Speaker 3>don't wear a lot of jury. Well, the old d

0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:36.880
<v Speaker 3>boys that I knew my whole life didn't wear a

0:40:36.880 --> 0:40:38.960
<v Speaker 3>lot of jeury. But I guess if you see a

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:44.000
<v Speaker 3>movie on the Boy Nikki Barnes and certain people, that's

0:40:44.040 --> 0:40:48.800
<v Speaker 3>what you believe. So again, I always I'm always reminded

0:40:48.840 --> 0:40:52.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm teaching ignorant people, even people that saw films. I'm

0:40:52.719 --> 0:40:55.720
<v Speaker 3>teaching ignorant people about something that they don't truly know about.

0:40:56.200 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 3>The worst part and the hardest part is when people

0:40:59.160 --> 0:41:02.160
<v Speaker 3>talk to you like they have a fucking idea of

0:41:02.200 --> 0:41:05.880
<v Speaker 3>what they're talking about. That's irritating. Like people think you

0:41:05.960 --> 0:41:08.520
<v Speaker 3>can't wear a color, and I'm like, bro, that's not true.

0:41:09.400 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 3>Like how you're wearing that color, where you're wearing that

0:41:11.680 --> 0:41:14.759
<v Speaker 3>color is a million It's more important than just the

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 3>color itself. So you know, not just not just the

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:22.839
<v Speaker 3>true cultural but even the artistic expression is the same way.

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>There is a there is a dab of too much

0:41:25.680 --> 0:41:29.319
<v Speaker 3>sauce on it, you know what I'm saying. But it's

0:41:29.360 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 3>also been so long since people have been exposed to it,

0:41:32.239 --> 0:41:36.959
<v Speaker 3>so people have to kind of make it a little

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:38.759
<v Speaker 3>more sparkly than it probably should be.

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Wait, wait, so you're is this part of why because Inglewood,

0:41:46.040 --> 0:41:48.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, is largely a blood city.

0:41:48.840 --> 0:41:49.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for the most part.

0:41:52.719 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 4>Does this explain how all those ram fans at home

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:56.720
<v Speaker 4>games make it out alive?

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:08.560
<v Speaker 3>That's good, good question, Pete. That's the police and people

0:42:08.640 --> 0:42:10.719
<v Speaker 3>be getting ribbed like fucking crazy. If the police was

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.200
<v Speaker 3>over there, police wasn't over there, and.

0:42:13.280 --> 0:42:14.760
<v Speaker 1>People still poor man.

0:42:16.480 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 3>And people and poor, not just and broke, but like broken,

0:42:20.680 --> 0:42:21.959
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, spirit.

0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 1>Like ignored, you know, ignored, you know, uh, deprived, despair,

0:42:30.640 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.560
<v Speaker 6>Like that's what pushes hip hop right, push his culture.

0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:38.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean historically, I mean, why would a rich motherfucker

0:42:38.680 --> 0:42:39.360
<v Speaker 3>make spaghetti?

0:42:39.840 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Is beyond me. I mean, the more money I made,

0:42:44.239 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 1>the less starts I need.

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:49.080
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and there's very few.

0:42:49.480 --> 0:42:52.440
<v Speaker 6>That's when you say that because I was telling, you know, somebody,

0:42:52.480 --> 0:42:56.120
<v Speaker 6>when I was a kid and poor was just about us,

0:42:56.239 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 6>no matter what we had, you try to make it

0:42:57.960 --> 0:43:00.319
<v Speaker 6>clean or you trying to iron it up so that

0:43:00.360 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 6>people can see how clean you was. Even though you

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 6>was the poorest dude there, you still try to look

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.839
<v Speaker 6>like you have money by taking what you had and

0:43:07.880 --> 0:43:10.080
<v Speaker 6>trying to make it look clean. Your shoes all signed

0:43:10.160 --> 0:43:12.200
<v Speaker 6>up even though they was your only pair of shote.

0:43:12.520 --> 0:43:15.800
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you know, so you want to look new because

0:43:15.800 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 4>if you had money, you bought it yesterday.

0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:22.239
<v Speaker 1>But in their mind, yeah and then fresh, that just

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:24.000
<v Speaker 1>wasn't how it is. Again.

0:43:24.400 --> 0:43:28.800
<v Speaker 3>Remember, remember the ghetto is as ignorant to upper upper

0:43:29.120 --> 0:43:31.759
<v Speaker 3>upper suburban and wealthy lifestyle. They don't.

0:43:32.000 --> 0:43:33.160
<v Speaker 1>They're just as ignorant.

0:43:34.640 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 3>So when people soon as somebody that never had nothing

0:43:37.880 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 3>or never had no real money, get some money, they

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:45.920
<v Speaker 3>start emulating their idea of what having money is and

0:43:46.040 --> 0:43:46.560
<v Speaker 3>go broke.

0:43:47.440 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 7>Because funny, I talk about that with the buddy of mine,

0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:58.279
<v Speaker 7>how he was complaining Jamaic Andre from all Show back

0:43:58.280 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 7>in the heat.

0:43:59.360 --> 0:44:00.760
<v Speaker 5>You know, get some.

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:05.719
<v Speaker 4>He you know, spare the language choices he uses, but

0:44:07.480 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 4>you'll you'll get like an educated black professional who you know,

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:20.400
<v Speaker 4>whatever age, but they're maybe it's their first generation or

0:44:20.440 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 4>whatever of having a lot of money, and they're a

0:44:22.960 --> 0:44:25.319
<v Speaker 4>total asshole to him. And he hates being talked down

0:44:25.360 --> 0:44:29.200
<v Speaker 4>to him, treated, you know like that by something, and

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 4>ran am asshole And I'm like, I get the impression

0:44:32.600 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 4>that a lot of people think that everybody with a

0:44:35.840 --> 0:44:39.800
<v Speaker 4>bunch of money is some snobby, arrogant, piece of shit asshole.

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:42.000
<v Speaker 4>And then they get some money and they think, well,

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:43.840
<v Speaker 4>I have much of money, this is how I'm supposed

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:48.280
<v Speaker 4>to act, And ninety nine people out of one hundred

0:44:48.640 --> 0:44:51.439
<v Speaker 4>don't act like that, and they think, what a piece

0:44:51.440 --> 0:44:52.640
<v Speaker 4>of shit asshole that guy.

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:56.520
<v Speaker 3>Is over there and is really an underrated thing. So

0:44:57.520 --> 0:45:00.680
<v Speaker 3>again that's my point. It's a a lot of people,

0:45:00.760 --> 0:45:03.120
<v Speaker 3>even some of the people in this particular case, didn't

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:06.600
<v Speaker 3>grow up in this particular lifestyle that they represent it.

0:45:07.520 --> 0:45:10.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean, so they are giving their best rendition of

0:45:10.600 --> 0:45:14.160
<v Speaker 3>what they think it is as well, you know what

0:45:14.200 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying, Like people don't know, so they're giving their

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:19.040
<v Speaker 3>best rendition of what it's like to be from a

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 3>game like I watch, a lot of people really monetize

0:45:24.400 --> 0:45:27.799
<v Speaker 3>the street urban culture lifestyle and the way they're doing

0:45:27.840 --> 0:45:30.720
<v Speaker 3>it that's not really authentically how it's done.

0:45:30.880 --> 0:45:32.959
<v Speaker 6>That's what I was saying with the platforms with people

0:45:33.080 --> 0:45:35.200
<v Speaker 6>was doing on these platforms. To me, it's not authentic.

0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:38.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but again you're not showing it to people that

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 3>come from the lifestyle. You're showing it to that like

0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:44.319
<v Speaker 3>Pize saying that ninety nine percent of people And this

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:46.480
<v Speaker 3>is a lot of it, Like I said, even with

0:45:46.600 --> 0:45:48.760
<v Speaker 3>a rose is a lot of it. Is very much

0:45:49.120 --> 0:45:54.359
<v Speaker 3>people's expectation or people's idea. Like I used to listen

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.480
<v Speaker 3>to people tell me who was flying private jets and

0:45:56.520 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 3>doing what and I'm like that ain't true about that person. No, gee,

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, this person got this much money. I'm like,

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.480
<v Speaker 3>that don't mean what you think it mean. They don't know.

0:46:06.200 --> 0:46:07.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's two.

0:46:06.920 --> 0:46:11.800
<v Speaker 3>Completely different worlds of people emulating or trying to assume

0:46:11.960 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 3>this is what people think it means.

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:17.800
<v Speaker 4>I talk to somebody who legitimately and this person should

0:46:17.840 --> 0:46:27.400
<v Speaker 4>have known better. They were an adult celebrity who honestly thought. No,

0:46:27.440 --> 0:46:30.759
<v Speaker 4>it wasn't Malcolm, just to be clear, but like it

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:33.880
<v Speaker 4>was not that that. Remember there was a skit on

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:37.960
<v Speaker 4>an old Rick Ross album where it sounded like a

0:46:38.000 --> 0:46:39.279
<v Speaker 4>bank of audio.

0:46:39.080 --> 0:46:42.400
<v Speaker 5>Calling or he had twenty million dollars.

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.160
<v Speaker 1>Ninety three million dollars in the Bank of American bank account. Yeah,

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, well.

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 4>I know that's horseshit, because nobody with a bunch of

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 4>money whatever just keep it idly sitting in the checking

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:53.240
<v Speaker 4>account because you're just putting your money in a fucking coffin.

0:46:53.480 --> 0:46:56.280
<v Speaker 5>So I know that's horseshit. You know that's a real recording.

0:46:56.280 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, that's not a fucking real recording.

0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:02.120
<v Speaker 3>That's how it feels all the time people when you're

0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 3>trying to tell I said that particular thing on the

0:47:04.719 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 3>breakfast club and people was mad at me, and I'm like,

0:47:07.280 --> 0:47:10.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm not talking shit, I'm it's so it's a it's

0:47:10.760 --> 0:47:14.080
<v Speaker 3>a weird combination of authenticity and entertainment because it can't

0:47:14.120 --> 0:47:17.680
<v Speaker 3>just be authentic. Authentic to people is way too grounding,

0:47:18.760 --> 0:47:19.760
<v Speaker 3>its way depressing.

0:47:20.680 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 6>Not depressing, but just too much like your life got

0:47:24.320 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 6>fun from the outside. It's probably more fun looking at

0:47:27.480 --> 0:47:29.080
<v Speaker 6>it from the outside than it is.

0:47:29.200 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 3>I mean you a lot of times you want to

0:47:31.160 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 3>look at people different because it makes you reflect on

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:34.879
<v Speaker 3>what you could have did with your life. So you

0:47:34.920 --> 0:47:38.960
<v Speaker 3>want to believe that these things are. What's weirdly is

0:47:39.000 --> 0:47:41.799
<v Speaker 3>people don't want to pull these things closer. Like when

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.080
<v Speaker 3>I realized Michael Jackson was just more of a well

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:47.440
<v Speaker 3>studied student than just some kind of phenomenal talented person,

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:50.960
<v Speaker 3>like he was a well trained student. I mean, and

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:53.799
<v Speaker 3>he has some gifts, but he was well trained when

0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 3>I started realizing, you know, Billy Jean is just a

0:47:58.960 --> 0:48:02.120
<v Speaker 3>rendition of I can't go for that, or you know,

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:09.719
<v Speaker 3>or beat it is Ma Sharona production wise, or you know,

0:48:09.920 --> 0:48:13.200
<v Speaker 3>or the way he dances, you know, the most popular

0:48:13.239 --> 0:48:18.080
<v Speaker 3>way Michael Jackson move is inspired by the choreograph.

0:48:18.320 --> 0:48:21.640
<v Speaker 1>The choreograph, the choreographer Bob Fosse.

0:48:22.239 --> 0:48:24.560
<v Speaker 3>You know what I mean, from the Little Prince from

0:48:24.560 --> 0:48:26.759
<v Speaker 3>the films Little Prince that came out in nineteen seventy four.

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:30.239
<v Speaker 3>It's a snake scene and the way he's moving, that's

0:48:30.239 --> 0:48:32.880
<v Speaker 3>Michael Jackson, you know what I mean. Like to me,

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:37.239
<v Speaker 3>that's empowering, right because it's like, oh damn greatness. I'm

0:48:37.280 --> 0:48:39.480
<v Speaker 3>connected to greatness. All I have to do is study

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:42.520
<v Speaker 3>and figure it out and I can achieve great things

0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 3>right with my gifts. In studying other people, it's devastating

0:48:47.239 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 3>because they thought of this person as a completely better

0:48:50.600 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 3>person than them, like God made them completely better.

0:48:56.200 --> 0:48:57.160
<v Speaker 1>Better, you know what I mean.

0:48:57.239 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 3>They're just a better breed of human being versus something

0:49:00.040 --> 0:49:01.960
<v Speaker 3>human being that somebody trained the.

0:49:01.920 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Shit out of, you know what I'm saying.

0:49:04.239 --> 0:49:10.960
<v Speaker 3>So it's it's tricky, man, It's tricky, like one DMC.

0:49:10.560 --> 0:49:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Say, cicky.

0:49:13.960 --> 0:49:18.000
<v Speaker 6>So hard work pays off in some type of way.

0:49:18.160 --> 0:49:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it always does.

0:49:20.080 --> 0:49:22.360
<v Speaker 3>If you take one brick a day and you just

0:49:22.400 --> 0:49:24.240
<v Speaker 3>stack it on top, you know, you know the bare

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<v Speaker 3>minimum about masonry, and you put semen on one brick.

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<v Speaker 3>If you lay a brick a day and you building

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<v Speaker 3>a wall, eventually the wall gonna be built.

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<v Speaker 1>You just gotta know how to build a wall. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta look up.

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<v Speaker 3>How So again, it's like you have a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>poor people trying to change their fortune, right, and this

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<v Speaker 3>is all they have to offer until they have more

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<v Speaker 3>to offer, you know what I'm saying, Like until they

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<v Speaker 3>have more to offer. But again, if you only see

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<v Speaker 3>if that was the case, a lot of these guys

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<v Speaker 3>could go sit down with people that don't represent this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think they really want to build their business.

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.640
<v Speaker 3>People outside out of the culture want to build their

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<v Speaker 3>business and nothing else. They like Pete saying, people love

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<v Speaker 3>that guy that's against the rules. They know that they

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<v Speaker 3>could sell that. I got a question for you, so

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<v Speaker 3>leads into this.

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<v Speaker 6>So with the culture, you know, like we say, the

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<v Speaker 6>culture is usually with disadvantaged people and things like that.

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.359
<v Speaker 6>But I know, growing up, we always have parents that say,

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<v Speaker 6>I want to do my life better, so your life

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<v Speaker 6>would be better than mine. You know, how does that

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<v Speaker 6>save the culture of despair? If families is getting better,

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<v Speaker 6>then your children have better lives than they had, but

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<v Speaker 6>the culture still be there because the despair would be disappearing.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think that's happening every day. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean. I think that's happening every day.

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<v Speaker 6>But does that where you see it going mainstream now?

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<v Speaker 6>Where we see it start to open up to everything

0:50:46.200 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 6>now because the out there and stuff is going away

0:50:49.440 --> 0:50:49.719
<v Speaker 6>or what.

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<v Speaker 3>Pete said something that's a popular expression. Necessity is the

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<v Speaker 3>mother of invention. Lingo is is the same right, being

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<v Speaker 3>able to communicate. That's what slang is birthed out of

0:51:04.719 --> 0:51:07.640
<v Speaker 3>not having proper English classes. It's not somebody in the

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 3>suburban neighborhood just figuring out dope slang words. That's not

0:51:10.360 --> 0:51:15.680
<v Speaker 3>the culture of it. Low riders are the best. Lowriders

0:51:15.719 --> 0:51:18.960
<v Speaker 3>are the cheapest version of a car you don't like.

0:51:19.080 --> 0:51:21.840
<v Speaker 3>The worst lowrider to have is a supersport. You know,

0:51:22.080 --> 0:51:24.120
<v Speaker 3>the bucket seeds that got the big the four h

0:51:24.200 --> 0:51:28.040
<v Speaker 3>nine motor and all. That's not cool, that's not flavor.

0:51:28.280 --> 0:51:29.920
<v Speaker 3>Like you wouldn't get a pair of Gucci pans and

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 3>put a crease in cuffing them. That would be fucking ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 6>You said something to me the other day when I

0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.000
<v Speaker 6>was making a joke, you know, about the neighborhood of

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<v Speaker 6>the sixties and the perception sure you know, and I

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:43.400
<v Speaker 6>was like, they rich, you know they written. You was like, no, dude, stop,

0:51:43.560 --> 0:51:46.360
<v Speaker 6>you know they're not like that. You know what I'm saying.

0:51:46.520 --> 0:51:47.120
<v Speaker 1>That's respect.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's say you give perspect like the sixties is

0:51:50.040 --> 0:51:52.719
<v Speaker 6>rich kids, so that gives people farest well rich kids

0:51:52.760 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 6>as gag members. But no, He's like, no, it's not

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:57.680
<v Speaker 6>that kind of Yeah, you know what I'm saying. But

0:51:57.719 --> 0:51:59.440
<v Speaker 6>to the world, it looked like the sixties. And I

0:51:59.480 --> 0:52:05.040
<v Speaker 6>thought that too, Like, you know, but when you told

0:52:05.280 --> 0:52:10.480
<v Speaker 6>the perspective. But that's where I get that from, Like,

0:52:10.640 --> 0:52:12.560
<v Speaker 6>is it like that, you know where you got to

0:52:12.600 --> 0:52:13.200
<v Speaker 6>be in disparaged?

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<v Speaker 3>Are going to be like that theory that you could

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<v Speaker 3>be rich and still be this I mean, even soulful

0:52:19.440 --> 0:52:26.759
<v Speaker 3>is was invented out of necessity. No, I mean, you

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<v Speaker 3>can't it would be hard to I don't know if

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:33.480
<v Speaker 3>you would do a rib the way you do. Imagine

0:52:33.520 --> 0:52:38.680
<v Speaker 3>like how you cook smothered steak, like you know what

0:52:38.719 --> 0:52:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean. It's kind of like, yeah, I don't know

0:52:41.800 --> 0:52:44.520
<v Speaker 3>if you're supposed to do that with a rabbi. You know,

0:52:45.000 --> 0:52:46.840
<v Speaker 3>you know what I'm saying, Pete, you just smother it

0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 3>up with gravy and the fresh Rabbi. It's like, I

0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:52.200
<v Speaker 3>don't know if you should have did that. Imagine you're

0:52:52.200 --> 0:52:55.319
<v Speaker 3>trying to cook spinach the way you cook greens. They've

0:52:55.360 --> 0:52:57.440
<v Speaker 3>been sitting in this pot for three hours. I think

0:52:57.480 --> 0:53:01.040
<v Speaker 3>they would be done.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>So people hate that I say this, and I understand

0:53:08.120 --> 0:53:10.760
<v Speaker 3>why street urban culture is still rooted in some level

0:53:10.760 --> 0:53:15.040
<v Speaker 3>of oppression and poverty culture period. I mean there are

0:53:15.080 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 3>some like people say, oh, there's no white culture, not really,

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:22.880
<v Speaker 3>like there's really no black culture. Really it's very minute

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:27.480
<v Speaker 3>things maybe like hair hot combs now, but once you

0:53:27.520 --> 0:53:31.399
<v Speaker 3>pull out the once you pull out poverty from that.

0:53:31.480 --> 0:53:34.520
<v Speaker 3>Like it's a black family that grew up in Beverly Hills.

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<v Speaker 3>They whole life, They wasn't the descendant of slaves, and

0:53:36.800 --> 0:53:38.799
<v Speaker 3>they had money when they came here and they was

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<v Speaker 3>black and they live in bel Air.

0:53:41.480 --> 0:53:43.600
<v Speaker 1>What would you be doing that would make it black culture?

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<v Speaker 6>So do you think black culture? I mean, well not

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:51.719
<v Speaker 6>black culture, but hip hop is shrinking every day that

0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:54.800
<v Speaker 6>it's getting small and something. It's going to be gone.

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:58.400
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't have a choice because just to live in

0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:02.000
<v Speaker 3>America is you can't even take pride in poverty anymore.

0:54:02.360 --> 0:54:05.080
<v Speaker 3>Like like street urban culture, especially hip hop, is a

0:54:05.239 --> 0:54:06.359
<v Speaker 3>pride in this ship.

0:54:07.120 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>It's not a shameful thing.

0:54:08.920 --> 0:54:11.520
<v Speaker 3>It's like taking the worker pants that your that your

0:54:11.560 --> 0:54:13.920
<v Speaker 3>father had, the last pair of the worker pants, and

0:54:14.000 --> 0:54:15.960
<v Speaker 3>you crease them and cuff them and treat them like

0:54:16.000 --> 0:54:18.680
<v Speaker 3>they the freshest thing in the world. It's about taking

0:54:18.800 --> 0:54:22.359
<v Speaker 3>some you know, ten dollars basketball shoes, you know, named

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:28.360
<v Speaker 3>after a player that wasn't even that great player.

0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, It's about taking a shirt.

0:54:30.320 --> 0:54:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Meant to be an undershirt, you know what I'm saying,

0:54:32.920 --> 0:54:35.759
<v Speaker 3>and putting a crease in it and wearing it out

0:54:35.800 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 3>loud like it's it's a it's a different pride in poverty.

0:54:40.000 --> 0:54:40.160
<v Speaker 1>You know.

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:43.280
<v Speaker 3>Even the lingo how we talk, we we we speak

0:54:43.360 --> 0:54:45.840
<v Speaker 3>it like you know what I mean, We speak it

0:54:46.040 --> 0:54:49.400
<v Speaker 3>like like we speaking the greatest language in the world,

0:54:50.160 --> 0:54:52.319
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, and without that type of

0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:55.200
<v Speaker 3>pride to solidify it. I saw a sister say that,

0:54:55.239 --> 0:54:58.919
<v Speaker 3>like there was a time people made being poor look

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.160
<v Speaker 3>so cool. That's all I was saying to somebody when

0:55:01.200 --> 0:55:03.000
<v Speaker 3>I was little. You make it look cool, you make

0:55:03.040 --> 0:55:06.000
<v Speaker 3>it like it's nast That's the foundation of hip hop,

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 3>making that type of situation look cool, you know what

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm saying. So it's like, yeah, it's it's it's a

0:55:13.719 --> 0:55:15.920
<v Speaker 3>tough out, you know, I mean, And it has to

0:55:15.960 --> 0:55:19.680
<v Speaker 3>shrink and get smaller. People parents are are you know,

0:55:21.400 --> 0:55:24.120
<v Speaker 3>think about it again. Like I said, I grew up,

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.080
<v Speaker 3>we didn't. We looked at Louis Vatan and Gucci as

0:55:27.120 --> 0:55:32.359
<v Speaker 3>homosexual brands. That was not like something we aspired to have,

0:55:33.960 --> 0:55:38.520
<v Speaker 3>you know, Foobou you know, Karl Kana, cross color, youse, damaged,

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:42.879
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean, Like black designers, rockaware, I mean,

0:55:43.200 --> 0:55:44.600
<v Speaker 3>the fat form, you know what I mean?

0:55:44.680 --> 0:55:46.840
<v Speaker 6>Because I wasn't things that wasn't there when I was

0:55:46.880 --> 0:55:47.160
<v Speaker 6>a kid.

0:55:47.320 --> 0:55:50.000
<v Speaker 1>No, y'all didn't have it right. So so my generation

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:55.800
<v Speaker 1>is unique versus new kids today. They want a celine

0:55:56.000 --> 0:55:58.200
<v Speaker 1>or they want and.

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.879
<v Speaker 6>You look, you missed the parachute pants years. They won't

0:56:02.360 --> 0:56:05.279
<v Speaker 6>you know what I'm saying, they won't find it.

0:56:05.280 --> 0:56:10.399
<v Speaker 3>The black brands, they've probably made the last cool black

0:56:10.480 --> 0:56:12.920
<v Speaker 3>brand and shirt to say, friendshaw.

0:56:12.719 --> 0:56:16.040
<v Speaker 1>You understand that'sh it. So it's it's it's like.

0:56:19.000 --> 0:56:20.960
<v Speaker 3>It's it's tough you I mean, but that's what made

0:56:21.040 --> 0:56:23.319
<v Speaker 3>hip hop special, you know what I'm saying.

0:56:23.360 --> 0:56:28.239
<v Speaker 1>It's it's this. It's this real.

0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:34.000
<v Speaker 3>Man pride in circumstance, like yeah, I'm a still rocket

0:56:34.040 --> 0:56:37.560
<v Speaker 3>though I'm still rock these dickies like yeah, watch this

0:56:37.680 --> 0:56:40.840
<v Speaker 3>creasing these cuffs in this motherfucker this ship finna look nice,

0:56:41.640 --> 0:56:43.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, like a pendleton that's just a flannel and

0:56:43.880 --> 0:56:46.279
<v Speaker 3>they just open the top and button one or two

0:56:46.280 --> 0:56:49.200
<v Speaker 3>buttons down and player that bitch out and yeah, I'm

0:56:49.200 --> 0:56:51.480
<v Speaker 3>the freshest nigga on the block, and other people start

0:56:51.520 --> 0:56:54.360
<v Speaker 3>to believe it, you know what I mean, like that

0:56:54.520 --> 0:56:57.960
<v Speaker 3>freshest on the block. I think there's still some of that.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's evolved in the in the way that

0:57:00.400 --> 0:57:05.000
<v Speaker 4>it's presented, you know, like intergenerationally speaking, because like forty

0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 4>years ago, you didn't see every other guy on the

0:57:07.080 --> 0:57:09.600
<v Speaker 4>street corner with fucking ten tattoos on their face.

0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.319
<v Speaker 3>I mean, but I think that that is kind of

0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 3>something from somewhere different.

0:57:14.800 --> 0:57:16.920
<v Speaker 6>That comes from from people being locked up.

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:20.480
<v Speaker 4>I think, yeah, yeah, but looking to what it's evolved

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 4>to though.

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:23.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, true, But I don't think it's evolved.

0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 3>Evolve is in reference like we usually evolved, like change

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.360
<v Speaker 3>versus evolve being something to stay alive or to grow.

0:57:30.640 --> 0:57:34.480
<v Speaker 3>I don't think it's evolving. I think it's actually becoming obsolete.

0:57:34.640 --> 0:57:38.840
<v Speaker 6>I think more people are getting it still tattoos.

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:43.280
<v Speaker 3>But that again, it's not that culture anymore.

0:57:43.400 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 6>It's normal now, it's not. It's not cultured. You're not

0:57:46.840 --> 0:57:49.120
<v Speaker 6>bad if you have a tattoo. You're not doing crime.

0:57:49.160 --> 0:57:50.560
<v Speaker 6>If you have a tattoo, it's like going.

0:57:50.640 --> 0:57:53.200
<v Speaker 3>It's like everybody around America, like I'm going to get

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 3>mesical food because they have a taco bell.

0:57:54.920 --> 0:57:56.040
<v Speaker 1>That's not what that is.

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:58.640
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, that's what you're saying. I agree with you.

0:57:59.240 --> 0:57:59.400
<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

0:57:59.440 --> 0:58:01.280
<v Speaker 4>And there's a lot more I mean there's a lot

0:58:01.320 --> 0:58:04.040
<v Speaker 4>more visibility we've talked about before, a lot more access,

0:58:04.040 --> 0:58:06.880
<v Speaker 4>a lot more visibility. There's a lot more biting. I

0:58:06.880 --> 0:58:08.960
<v Speaker 4>mean there's and like I'll say, like you can't have

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:15.040
<v Speaker 4>discipline without consequences Culturally in the United States right now,

0:58:15.360 --> 0:58:18.520
<v Speaker 4>they're trying to do away with two things simultaneously, also

0:58:19.600 --> 0:58:23.440
<v Speaker 4>shame and pride. You can't have pride if there's no shame,

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:25.640
<v Speaker 4>you know what I mean, Like, you can't have the

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:30.440
<v Speaker 4>one without the other. So like, no, no one's ashamed

0:58:30.440 --> 0:58:33.360
<v Speaker 4>of themselves for doing anything. Apparently there's no self respect anymore.

0:58:34.480 --> 0:58:35.840
<v Speaker 4>So how the fuck can you have a lot of

0:58:35.840 --> 0:58:38.160
<v Speaker 4>pride if you if you're not having pride in the

0:58:38.160 --> 0:58:39.960
<v Speaker 4>fact that you don't have anything to be ashamed of

0:58:40.040 --> 0:58:41.520
<v Speaker 4>because shame is no longer a thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And looking out for tuning into the No Sellers podcast,

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah