1 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:08,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale lolli. He is the Matt 2 00:00:08,840 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Williamson and uh Matt, it's time for the Fantasy Football 3 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: Focus and uh well, we had two DFS lineups scoring 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,400 Speaker 1: this weekend. We did one for Saturday and then we 5 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: did one for Sunday. Our Saturday one, well it hit. 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: It was in the money. We had Jared Goffitt quarterback. 7 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: That was pretty nice. Nice. Yeah, the Porto St. Brown 8 00:00:26,760 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 2: he was office was impressed. 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: Eight point nine percent of lineups he had thirty one 10 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 1: point one two points. That's a that's a winner right there. 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, golf at home is a real thing and they're 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: really rolling. Just a quick Lions note that I heard 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:44,840 Speaker 2: today their EPA when Ragnow they're center Reahly, good player, 14 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: top five type center. But he's been in the lineup a. 15 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: Heck of a viking. 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: Good show. By the way, when he has been in 17 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 2: the lineup, they're the top three offense. When he hasn't, 18 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: they've been like twenty six in the league. 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean like stuff like that. Matt's That's how 20 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm important a center can be. And we'll talk more 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: about that as we get into the off season and 22 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: start talking draft and things. Of that nature. 23 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:08,560 Speaker 2: I'm a big believer, but part of it's because I 24 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 2: grew up in this town. Yeah, that's stud Center. 25 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we had Jala Warren in the lineup at fourteen 26 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: point one percent ownership. He got us eleven point eight. 27 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 2: That was probably a bad investment. 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, five catches for forty or for twenty eight yards 29 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: and forty rushing yards wasn't bad. Ty Chandler, Yeah, you're 30 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: talking fifty six percent ownership, but he got us twenty 31 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 1: seven point seven. Still, even if you're only competing against 32 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 1: forty a small Yeah, it was a small slate of games. 33 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: You know, unless it was like eighty percent ownership, we 34 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: were going to make out pretty well on that. 35 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 2: Bengals had hard time stopping the run. They did talk 36 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 2: about Bengals stuff throughout the week, but Ty Chandler Riph. 37 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not going to be any easier this week 38 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: with either without bj Hill in there. 39 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: True true reader, I'm saying j run suffer. 40 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, a mon Ross Saint Brown was owning fifty seven 41 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: point two percent. Twenty seven point two points. 42 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Uh, course to. 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: Shortland, Sutton wasn't the right Denver receiver. 44 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 2: Haven't that? 45 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: Jown Judy was more productive, but he had five for 46 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: seventy one, so he got his twelve point one Josh 47 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: Downs twenty five point one percent ownership. That didn't work 48 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: out so well. Three catch going out, Yeah, three catches 49 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: for nineteen yards ran half. 50 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 51 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Hawkinson six catches for sixty three yards. He was 52 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: thirty four percent ownership. 53 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: That was a reason a good return on investment. Not great. 54 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, George Pickens three catches forty seven yards, he was 55 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 1: owned an eight point three percent of owner or in 56 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:37,480 Speaker 1: a three point eight point three percent of lineups seven 57 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 1: point seven points. Steelers defense four point three percent of lineups, 58 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising. 59 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 2: Was that low, especially on a six games late? 60 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, four points out of them, so we had one 61 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight point eight two total points in 62 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: that one to finish in the money. 63 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 2: So it sounds like Golf, Saint Brown and Chandlers where 64 00:02:55,600 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 2: we won. Yeah, those three were yeah, and nobody killed 65 00:02:58,400 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 2: us and really. 66 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Goff only eight point nine percent ownership, that's best pick. 67 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was huge. 68 00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 1: Looking at our Sunday slate, we only scored seven fewer 69 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: points on Sunday and yet we didn't finish in the money. 70 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 2: Now, there's more teams to pick from him. 71 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: We had one hundred and thirty one point sixty two points, 72 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: which is pretty solid, and. 73 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: I say usually that's pretty close to winning, being in 74 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: the top fifty percent. 75 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: Yet we were three thousand, six hundred and forty fourth 76 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: out of four thousand, five hundred and ninety seven, like 77 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: the bottom third. 78 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 2: There must be some Chalky players that went insane. 79 00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so we had Matthew Stafford. He was 80 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 1: owning sixty six point eight percent eighteen point five two points. 81 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 1: It wasn't a monster day, and we didn't benefit from 82 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: that because. 83 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he had to have a monster day to keep up. Yeah, 84 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,880 Speaker 2: and it was good, not great. 85 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: Chuba Hubbard was only owned in one percent of the lineups. 86 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,280 Speaker 1: He got us twelve point three points, which was fine. 87 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: He needed to score. 88 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 2: Nobody did. 89 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: Nobody did in that game. Tyler al Year, well, at 90 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: least at least he got the carry. 91 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: He's better than picking Beijon. 92 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was owned in point five percent of lineups 93 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: and he got a six point one points. That's kind 94 00:04:10,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: of where we lost it right there with the runner 95 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: that running back, Yeah, because it received it picked the 96 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: wrong I mean, that game was horrible for fantasy. We 97 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: were okay at receiver with Cooper cup thirteen point one 98 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: percent ownership. He got his twenty eight point one points. 99 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: It was a nice that's a nice stack there. 100 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: Were stafford I like that Rams offense. 101 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: We also then stacked with that Puka Nakua who was 102 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 1: owned an eighteen point two percent of leagues and he 103 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:32,919 Speaker 1: got his ten point three. 104 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: Wasn't quite as a little greedy with the Rams. Yeah. 105 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: And then Jalen Reid uh seventy seven point three percent owners. 106 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 2: So I think he got hurt late in that game. 107 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: He did, he got us seventeen point two points, but 108 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: everybody had. 109 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 2: It but had him that hurt. So it's a good call, 110 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 2: but everybody was on it. 111 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: David and Joku at tight end he's for real man 112 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: seven point eight percent ownership and we got twenty nine 113 00:04:57,960 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: point four points out of him. 114 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: He gets so many targets and he's good after the 115 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: catch and coming into his own. Uh. 116 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: Then we had again this one killing our running back choices, 117 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: killing us Tony Pollard in the flex Oh yuck. Yeah, 118 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: seven point seven points out of him he was owning 119 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,600 Speaker 1: two point five percent. 120 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 2: I actually wasn't a victim of this, but I'm sure 121 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 2: a lot of listeners were that dance with who brung 122 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 2: you on? Cowboys didn't work out? It didn't work out? 123 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was a killer. 124 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: This nack Lamb, Pollard, et cetera, or not what they 125 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: you'd expect out of them. 126 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,040 Speaker 1: The Jets defense was also kind of choky. At twenty 127 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 1: five hundred dollars that didn't work out. Twenty five point 128 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 1: seven percent ownership. We got two points out of them 129 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: that got crushed. Yeah, we we just needed to make 130 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: a couple of better choices there. 131 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: Quick question for you in Najoku do you think he's 132 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 2: like when we have a you know, Labor Day fantasy 133 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: drafts next year, is do you think he's like a 134 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:47,160 Speaker 2: top five tight end? 135 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: Do you trust him at all? 136 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: That's my problem. 137 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: I really don't. 138 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: I don't. He's been so up and down, but. 139 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: He's been put it. He's been better with Flacco in 140 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: the line, yeah, than he was with Watson. I'd have 141 00:05:57,880 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: to take a look at the splits. Well, Watson's back, 142 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 1: I think everybody else is good. Like the Steelers played 143 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: dtr right, yeah, yeah, and they fed him like crazy. 144 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's just a new way to 145 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 1: play football is get him the ball the time? Or 146 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: does Watson not like him? I mean, I don't know 147 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: what to make of them big picture, but ride them 148 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: why you can. Yeah, I just think it's better when 149 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: Watson is not the quarterback for him than it is 150 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: because Watson will try to again he thinks he's maybe 151 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: better than Yeah. 152 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 153 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: Looking at this week's leading passes, boy, this was not 154 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: what you would expect to get out of. 155 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: A playoft of really good fantasy teams got eliminated this week. 156 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: The leading passer this week was Baker Mayfield three eighty 157 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: one and four touchdowns. How many teams do you think 158 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 1: started Baker Mayfield. We talked about it. Oh yeah, like 159 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: pivoting to Baker Mayfield. 160 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: Packers D's a mess. 161 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: But anyway, Joe Flacco threw forty four passes for three 162 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four yards in a driving rain storm. 163 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: All at the end of the game. 164 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: He had two touchdown passes, three interceptions. He wasn't great 165 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: and that he wasn't but they won the game. 166 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,840 Speaker 2: Again. I'm roody for Joe. I'm not rooting for the Browns. 167 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: But nobody, nobody had Joe Flacco in their lineup though. 168 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 2: No, but like his advanced passing numbers DVA EPA, stuff 169 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 2: like that aren't really good, folks. Yeah, I mean his 170 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 2: numbers are better than that, and so's wins and they're 171 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: winning the third. 172 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: Most passing yards last week in the NFL Week fifteen. 173 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: Jake Browning, Yeah, nobody started him either twenty nine to 174 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: forty two for three twenty four, two touchdowns, an interception, 175 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: and four sacks. Then you finally get to somebody that 176 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: people probably started. That would be Patrick Mahomes. He had 177 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 1: three zero five, two touchdowns, two interceptions, three sacks. Like 178 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,679 Speaker 1: that's that's an okay game from the home. 179 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 2: His thirdieth best career AIG but for where he. 180 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Had drafted him, Like, yeah, that's not going to get 181 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 1: it done. 182 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: I'm sure we'll get to him. But Rashid Rice is 183 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 2: coming on big for them, yes, you know, big for 184 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 2: the passing game and fantasy stuff. 185 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: The fifth most passing yards in the NFL this week, 186 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: and he guesses. 187 00:07:57,480 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 2: I mean, no, it's not Dak or Josh Allen or 188 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 2: the p boy, but he started Nick Mullins. 189 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: Nick Mullins was twenty six of thirty three, two touchdown passes, 190 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 1: two interceptions, and three sacks. 191 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 2: He didn't play well. Yeah, a lot of turnovers from 192 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 2: these guys to the top two. 193 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, the sixth best passer and this this is actually 194 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: a good game. His team lost. Jordan Love twenty nine 195 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 1: to thirty nine to eighty four, two touchdowns, He was 196 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: sacked twice. He did fumble, but he didn't he didn't 197 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 1: throw an interception. 198 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 2: They didn't lose because of their offense. 199 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: No, they lost because their defense couldn't stop them. Then 200 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 1: you get to Jared Goff twenty four to thirty four 201 00:08:37,240 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: to two seventy eight, five touchdown passes. Golf was probably 202 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: in some lineups. 203 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:41,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. 204 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence last night against the Ravens. They scored seven points. 205 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: He was twenty five of forty three for two sixty 206 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: four in a touchdown, was only sacked once, but did 207 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: lose two fumbles, fumbled twice. Goot Stafford was twenty five 208 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: or thirty three for two fifty eight and two touchdowns. 209 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: Didn't turn the ball over a fish until he played well. Yeah, 210 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: it could have been better then your tenth leading passer 211 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: this week, Easton Stick. 212 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: Oh wow, all garbage time. 213 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, lose twenty three of thirty two for two fifty seven, 214 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: three touchdowns, one interception, was sacked three times and fumbled twice. 215 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 2: I mean, if you survived the New East and stick 216 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: on your bench, don't throw them in thinking that's going 217 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 2: to be the norm. 218 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: Beyond that, then you had to aid O'Connell. 219 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what he didn't Again. 220 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,559 Speaker 1: Then at twelve it was brock perty Hit. He threw 221 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: for two forty two. He had four touchdowns. 222 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:33,680 Speaker 2: That's just what they do. 223 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's it's just debos. Guys are running open. 224 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,839 Speaker 1: Then it's case Keenum. Nobody's starting case Keenum uh to 225 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: a Tigo Vailoa to twenty four and a touchdown. He 226 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:46,599 Speaker 1: wasn't bad in that game, but they didn't need to 227 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: do anything. 228 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: No, they did a lead and didn't have Tyreek Guaddle 229 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 2: had a big game. Most has his thirtieth touchdown in 230 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 2: the year or whatever. 231 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: Then it's at or fifteen it was Russell Wilson. He 232 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: threw for two twenty three in a touchdown. 233 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, like you haven't mentioned Allan her Dak. We're still 234 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: working our way down here, say the starters. 235 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: Minshew was through for two fifteen and three touchdowns. Yeah, 236 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: the three touchdowns, Kyler Murray two eleven and a touchdown, 237 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:15,199 Speaker 1: two interceptions, Will Levis one ninety nine, no touchdowns, one 238 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: interception again, seven sacks seven yuck. Then you get to 239 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: Bailey Zappi one eighty in a touchdown, in an interception, 240 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: four sacks, Tommy DeVito won seventy seven, no touchdowns, interceptions, 241 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,439 Speaker 1: seven sacks. We still haven't gotten down there. Then you 242 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 1: get to Lamar fourteen to twenty four, one seventy one 243 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: and a touchdown with an interception. At least with. 244 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:38,720 Speaker 2: Him, he'd like one hundreds rushing. 245 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was close to one hundred yards rushing, So 246 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: he gets saved a little bit there. Then it was 247 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky. 248 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,880 Speaker 2: I mean Lamars. We still haven't gotten to the guys 249 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 2: at big Dogs. Yeah, like even as Gray as Lamars, 250 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 2: he might win the MVP, but be a bad fantasy 251 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 2: pick this year. Yeah, for where you drafted. 252 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: Him, I'm not even seeing in the top thirty here. 253 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: I know Josh Allen at ninety four. 254 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: No Josh Allen. 255 00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, if you top thirty. 256 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: Josh Allen got you to the playoffs this year. Josh 257 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,560 Speaker 1: might have been the Fantasy MVP of the regular season. 258 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 2: I have two dynasty leagues. When I'm in the postseason 259 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna lose because I got nothing. 260 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Now he'll at least again still give you something rushing 261 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: he does, But my goodness. 262 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: You would think if you blow the Cowboys out, Josh 263 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 2: Allen would be at least startable for fantasy. 264 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: Like, there's very few guys who are actually in fantasy 265 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 1: lineups this week at quarterback who you. 266 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 2: Know, by the way, hurts tonight might not even play. Yeah, 267 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: he's another one that said no brainer started Holy Mack 268 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: and he hurts owners probably picking up Mario o Doas. 269 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: When I talk about the league being down as a whole, Yeah, 270 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,439 Speaker 1: this is what I'm talking about. 271 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: It's a good summerization of it. Yeah, no doubt. 272 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 1: I mean there's some some of those quarters and you'll 273 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: see these like remember Sam Howe was the was the 274 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: hot name a couple of weeks ago. 275 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 2: He didn't fish. 276 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: He's thirtieth on this in this this week, eleven of 277 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: twenty six for one oh two, one touchdown, one interception, 278 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: and he got sacked once and then got pulled. 279 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: It was garbage time. But Prissette comes in hits a 280 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: bomb to mcclorin for a touchdown. There was another bomb 281 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 2: of mcloring down to the one and then it takes 282 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 2: him like ten plays to get in the end zone. Yeah, 283 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: that wasn't like Prisette was great. 284 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: I mean Atlanta's benching Desmond really and he was. He 285 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 1: was twelve of twenty for one hundred and fifty two 286 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: yards and one touchdown, one interception, Like this. 287 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 2: Is not this young didn't do anything in that game. 288 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: No, it's just bad, bad, bad quarterback. 289 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: You never mentioned fields either, what Uh? 290 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,960 Speaker 1: He didn't do a lot in that game, so either yea, 291 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 1: it was uh he threw Uh. He was nineteen of 292 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,680 Speaker 1: forty for one sixty six one touchdown, which was a 293 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: ridiculous play. I don't know if you saw that one. 294 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: It was two interceptions and was sacked three times. And 295 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: if if they catch the hail Mary at the end 296 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: of the game, his game looks a heck of a 297 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 1: lot different. 298 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, along those lines. You know the team the Steelers 299 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 2: are playing here. Did you see the touchdown Higgins got too? No, 300 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 2: it was ridiculous. Tickets what a play? Yet, great, that 301 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 2: wasn't a tremendous quarterbacking play. 302 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: No, No, actually not the one hundred yard rushers this 303 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: week there were only six all that they were all 304 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 1: that bad quarterback play and we had six one hundred 305 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: games on the ball. It was James Cook twenty five 306 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: for one seventy nine. The Cowboys just had no answer there. 307 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: No Kieren Webs went something since the dor Sea firing. 308 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 2: Is Cook Cook Cook? Yeah? 309 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kyraon Williams twenty seven for a touchdown. 310 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: It amazes me. The worst fumble twice though, Yeah, yeah, boy. 311 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 2: He touched the ball a. 312 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: Lot ty Chandler against the Bengals, keep track of this 313 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: this week twenty three for one thirty two in a touchdown. 314 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 2: He looked, uh I drafted him in like the last 315 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 2: round in all my leagues, and he's now it's finally 316 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: maybe showing up. 317 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: Devin Singletary against the Titans. No Simmons in there, and 318 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,599 Speaker 1: that showed twenty six of twenty six for one to 319 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: twenty one. 320 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 2: They still flirt with Pierce and I used to be 321 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: a Pierce believer, but they're clearly better when they use Singletary. 322 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. 323 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: McCaffrey eighteen for one fifteen in a touchdown. 324 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 2: He's yeah, he's a machine. Yeah. 325 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: Jumior Gibbs eleven for one hundred and a touchdown, and 326 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: then he had Lamar twelve for ninety seven. 327 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, and some of it was not by design though. 328 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 2: His tackles were struggling, so he had to scramble more 329 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 2: than they were. 330 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they just had to start calling him. You got 331 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: six for forty nine out of Kyler Murray, Okay, you 332 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: take down Trevor Lawrence, got you four for forty one. 333 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: You'll take care you're happy with that with most quarterbacks. Yeah, 334 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: but you know nowhere on here is is uh. I'm 335 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: just looking into quarterbacks here. I don't think no, Josh Allen, No, 336 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: he is very little fantasy production. 337 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: Didn't need to. I mean, it's not like he played bad. 338 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: They were just destroying them. 339 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: A receiver. This is so eleven players over one hundred 340 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: yards receiving, despite those passing numbers being down overall. 341 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, have but some bad quarterbacks at big numbers. 342 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: Chris Goblin ten for one fifty five. 343 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm not buying it, though. 344 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: Do you think he was starting for anybody here? 345 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: And there? 346 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: Barely played right? Jaylen Waddle big game, eight touchdown, Terry 347 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: McLaurin six for one forty one in the touchdown the game. 348 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 1: Josh Palmer four for one thirteen in a touchdown. 349 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 2: He's kind of intriguing, even though I don't want to 350 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 2: put any assets into the Chargers. 351 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: How pathetic they looked, But he's gonna be on the field. Yeah, 352 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 1: I mean they got nobody else. Yeah, he's He's basically 353 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: that if you beat the Allen's out, he's their number one. 354 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: Amon Ross Saint Brown seven for one to twelve in 355 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: a touchdown, Cooper Cup eight for one eleven in a touchdown, 356 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: Jordan Addison six for one eleven and two touchdowns. 357 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 2: He looked great. Yeah, he really did. 358 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper four for one o nine in a touchdown, 359 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: and Joku had ten for one oh four in a touchdown. 360 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: Trey McBride ten for one oh two. 361 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 2: He's very real. Oh yeah, he's the top five tight 362 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 2: end next year. Yeah. 363 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 1: With that was out. Yeah, and then Devonte Adams had 364 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: eight for one oh one in a touchdown. Just missing 365 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: were Dontavian Wicks six for ninety seven. 366 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: He's not terrible. Yeah, flashes Yeah. 367 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: Rashi Rice, So you mentioned nine for ninety one in 368 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: the score. 369 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: He's getting a lot of attention action. 370 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson was okay at seven for eighty four. Yeah, No, 371 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: didn't worry about Noah Brown eight for eighty two in 372 00:15:59,160 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: a touchdown. 373 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: That's one you showed it probably. Yeah, that seems like 374 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 2: the writing was on the wall. We missed it. 375 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so to me, and I know we'll talk more 376 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:11,360 Speaker 1: about this in the off season. Every week when we 377 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: do this. The receivers, the good receivers always produce. 378 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: I know it's taken me so long as I'm so 379 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: set in my ways. If you go, like in a 380 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: normal snake draft, you know your buddy's at home. You 381 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 2: go receiver receiver, you're probably in the hunt. 382 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: If you go receiver receiver receiver, yeah, you're probably still 383 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: not killing yourself. 384 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: You piece together running backs and there's always like. 385 00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: You could be starting Chewba Hubbard, Cheeba Hubbard, and like 386 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 1: the name becomes to mind this Singletary. 387 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, right now, Singletary is one I have no respect for. 388 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: But it is way better for fantasy than I ever 389 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: give them credit for. Like someone I never thought was 390 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: that good or Shod White. You're thrilled if you own 391 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: a shot right right now. I mean, he catches so 392 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 2: many balls, there's no one else to compete with. I 393 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: don't even care if he's good, but he is good. 394 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: But the receivers are the receiving yards are there for 395 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,720 Speaker 1: these some of these guys every week. And if they're 396 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: not there every week, they're there every other week. They're 397 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 1: at the top of this, you know, guy like Terry 398 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: McLaurin or you know. 399 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm thinking about some of the consistent 400 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: early picks, but not top five picks, like a Saint Brown. 401 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Monros Saint Brown's up in the top ten every week. 402 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: Mikes, you know, like guys like that. I know they 403 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: didn't do things this week, but they don't let you 404 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: down for the course of the year. They might have 405 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 2: a bad game here and there, but they don't let 406 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 2: you down. Yeah. 407 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 1: I think they just I just think the hit rates 408 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: so much higher than maybe you have to start, the 409 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: injury rates much lower, yeah overall. 410 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, and of course of the year, pick up running 411 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:41,880 Speaker 2: backs left and right. 412 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I just think you I've come around draft wide receivers. 413 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 2: Got a little slow to do it, but you used 414 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: to two or three high picks on receivers. You're probably 415 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 2: in the hunt still. 416 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that probably if you looked at the 417 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: top twenty even fifteen or ten to fifteen wide receivers 418 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,120 Speaker 1: that were taking in drafts. 419 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: How many you unhappy with with where adp was? Not many? 420 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: Probably not, maybe like at DeVante Adams or something like that. 421 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 2: But I mean, like Justin Jefferson got hurt. Yeah, and 422 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 2: I guess you're happy with Chase. I'm trying to think 423 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 2: guys at the top Tyreek wins the league for you. Yeah, 424 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: you know. 425 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: I mean, if you'd start looking at the top running 426 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 1: backs taken, it's always probably not so much. 427 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: It's always disappointed, yeah, or they don't last a year. 428 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, So that's one thing. And certainly quarterbacks, my goodness, 429 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: Like anybody takes a quarterback before round five next year, 430 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: good luck? 431 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I thought about this year. Give me Hurts 432 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 2: Alan or Mahomes. You know, they're like can't miss news. 433 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 2: They're kind of and I thought Lamar was in that class. 434 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 2: I mean, they're better real players than they were fantasy 435 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 2: players this year. 436 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, So just something to chew on here. As we 437 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:48,920 Speaker 1: head into the second round of the fantasy there's. 438 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 2: More tight ends than there used to be too. There 439 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 2: are Kincaid, Borda, some of the younger guys. 440 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 1: Are pretty bride and. 441 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:55,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, McBride's right one. 442 00:18:55,920 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 1: I mean, Isaiah likely's been Oh. 443 00:18:57,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: He's been fine without Andrews. Yeah, quite good. 444 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean I wonder if if the Ravens are going, 445 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: maybe we should just not pay to Andrews and given 446 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: Likely the money, or just stuck with un Likely and 447 00:19:07,440 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: gone cheaper there. 448 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:09,880 Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Maybe he's been quite good. 449 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, So anyways, that's going to do it for the 450 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 1: fantasy football focus. He is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale, Lolly. 451 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Driver on Steelers Nation Radio. We 452 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 1: will be back with more right after this. 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Cincinnati, however, has some 469 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: some pretty big injuries on their side of the ball. 470 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 1: Jamar Chase suffered a separated shoulder in that game against 471 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 1: It did not return. Uh, and they also lost, as 472 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: we mentioned, DJ Reader, who's probably their best defensive lineman 473 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,160 Speaker 1: in the middle. 474 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. 475 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Hendrickson's the better sack guy. 476 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: But no, Reader is really important to them. He's not 477 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 2: just a two down stuffer. He gets up the field 478 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: a little bit, plays a lot of snaps. So that's 479 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 2: a loss for them without question. 480 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you know, we'll see there. I mean, they 481 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: were already having issues stopping the run with. 482 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 2: Reader on the field and Chandler ripped through him. 483 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't imagine that gets any better for them. 484 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: But looking at this Steelers situation, here. I mentioned earlier 485 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: in the show that, uh, you know, we talked about 486 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 1: k Z being suspended. Even if the league looks at 487 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 1: that and says and reduces the suspension, he's probably not 488 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: playing this because they're not going to just wave it 489 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 1: completely to one. 490 00:21:24,160 --> 00:21:27,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is what they did. 491 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: What they did with Kareem Jackson, who seems like more egregious, 492 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 1: but maybe they don't see it that way, whether we 493 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:31,480 Speaker 1: agree or not. 494 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: KZ is not gonna play. Maca is not gonna play. 495 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: So you're down your top two safeties, top three really 496 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: really yeah, really your top three. You're going to be 497 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 1: starting safety number four and five this week or maybe 498 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: even six if he consider that. You know they you're 499 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: going to bring a guy up off the practice squad play. 500 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean from the from when you broke camp, 501 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 2: who your initial. 502 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: Wasn't even on the team. 503 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 2: Do you think Killbru will start? 504 00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,440 Speaker 1: There's a possibility that they they. 505 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: Want I mean, that's not but he's ideal, but at 506 00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,959 Speaker 2: least he's been around. 507 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, at least he knows the defense and can do, 508 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,159 Speaker 1: you know, some strong safety type things for you. 509 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 2: And he's been around. 510 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 1: Run stuffing and that kind of stuff. The issues at 511 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: inside linebacker can continue to be Yeah. 512 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:15,679 Speaker 2: I mean, Roberts is in one hundred percent and he's 513 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,880 Speaker 2: playing every snap and he's starting to wear a little thin. Yeah, 514 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: and he's the only guy you can kind of count on. 515 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: So it looks like Miles Jack will probably get an 516 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: elevation this week. And so is Martinez still in the 517 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: mix or he's on the roster. 518 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he might get a chance this past week. 519 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 1: I just don't I don't know that they look at 520 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: him now. 521 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 2: These guys play special teams though. 522 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: That's the problem, and that's a big part that's the problem. Yeah, 523 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: and then you look at Cam Hayward's in concussion protocol. 524 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,959 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, the NFL seasons rough and you get 525 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,959 Speaker 2: to December, a lot of teams are in bad shape. 526 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: But it's amazing. I mean, it's things are compounding here. 527 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: I do think the Steeler D line it's pretty solid 528 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 2: in terms of depth and bump up bent and you know, 529 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 2: et cetera, Watts, Adams, those guys are fine. Lee Al's 530 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 2: hardly played. Maybe he gets up to twenty snaps this 531 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:09,360 Speaker 2: game if Hayward can't go. But yeah, losing Cam Hayward's 532 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 2: a problem. Yeah. 533 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:16,479 Speaker 1: I heard stat on the drive out to Indianapolis that 534 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: this season, players who have gone into the concussion protocol 535 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: make it through the concussion protocol to play in the 536 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: next game. Now that might consist, that might be all games, 537 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: like including Thursday night games. I don't know. But they 538 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: make it back the following week twenty two percent of 539 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: the time. 540 00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 2: And it's been higher lately. But it's still not that 541 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 2: it matters what time of year. It's just coincidence. But 542 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,399 Speaker 2: it's not great. Yeah, not great at all. So you know, 543 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 2: I think that's a full week. It's all like Saturday 544 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: gets you extra. 545 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: Day or yeah. Yeah, I think you kind of have 546 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: to go into this game thinking, hey, you might not 547 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: You're probably not gonna have Cam Hayward available. 548 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds unlikely. Man, that's a lot of defensive 549 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:59,120 Speaker 2: losses right up the middle of the defense. Yeah, all 550 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 2: in the defense. 551 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: So people might look at that game against the Colts, well, 552 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, what was going on? Why do they why 553 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: couldn't they stop the running? It was thirteen consecutive runs 554 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: and to me that was that was really the point, 555 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: the part of the game that was maybe the most disappointing. No, 556 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: doubt because you let. 557 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: It's the same running plays over and over, and you. 558 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: Know, and you let the you know, their third and 559 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: fourth running backs. Yeah, you know, Trey Sermon goes seventeen 560 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: for eighty eight and TJ. I think it's TJ. Goodson 561 00:24:30,280 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: goes eleven. 562 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:31,400 Speaker 2: Of them. 563 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: They caught him up off their practice squad. He's fourth 564 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: running back. 565 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And they weren't even like dynamic runners ripping off 566 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 2: long runs. They were just running through holes like a 567 00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 2: normal back. 568 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,640 Speaker 1: But I think I think some of it, to your point, 569 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: is fresh legs at this time in the year, because 570 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: when Zach Moss was in there, he had four carries 571 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: for thirteen yards. 572 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 2: He lay before he got hurt. 573 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 1: The Steelers were stopping the run to the point where 574 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: the Colts weren't trying to do it, and then second half. 575 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 2: Just flam broke. Yeah. Yeah, so you mentioned the thirteen 576 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: straight runs. I'm sure everyone's aware of that at this point. 577 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 2: I don't have it in front of me, but I 578 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 2: think there was a there was a three series stretch 579 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,879 Speaker 2: where the Colts ran the ball twenty out of twenty 580 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 2: one snaps if you exclude Neil downs and kicks of 581 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,200 Speaker 2: any nature. Yeah, and they ate up like thirteen minutes 582 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 2: at the clock. And it wasn't even for that many yards. 583 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 2: I mean a lot of four yard runs, six yard runs, 584 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,320 Speaker 2: old school Steeler stuff, you know. 585 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the one. The Colts get the ball 586 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: after they kick a twenty nine yard field goal, and 587 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: the Steelers get the ball back with nine. 588 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 2: H two left. 589 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: It's twenty four to thirteen at that point. Still a ballgame, yeah, 590 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: like you're still in it. And the Steelers they move 591 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 1: the ball and they get to the thirty nine. They 592 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 1: were down to the twenty nine actually, and they had 593 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: three holding penalties on this drive and they overcame the 594 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: first two. 595 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 2: And they are almost one hundred yards and penalties this game. 596 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, they overcame the first two penalties to continue moving 597 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: the football. There's a Connor Hayward offensive holding call on 598 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,439 Speaker 1: first down on a one yard run or no, it's 599 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: one yard pass to Jayalen Warren. It ended up being 600 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,119 Speaker 1: one yeard but it went farther than that. But in 601 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: grand scheme of things, it was a okay so, but 602 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 1: it makes it makes it first and twenty. Well, then 603 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: they convert that or they get to they get to 604 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 1: second and eleven they get another holding penalty. Now it's 605 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,280 Speaker 1: second and twenty one. Jalen Warren runs off guard for 606 00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 1: two yards. It's third and nineteen and Trubisky completes a 607 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: twenty five yard pass to Deontay Johnson. So you were 608 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: already played was lost, You're already playing with house money again. 609 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: It's still twenty four to thirteen at. 610 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,640 Speaker 2: This point, and you're moving the ball and ye going 611 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 2: backwards a couple of times. 612 00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: Again, you keep moving the football and you get down 613 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: to the twenty nine, and then you get another holding penalty, 614 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: and I think this is where it's. It's third and 615 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: fourteen at the Indianapolis twenty nine or thirty nine after 616 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:14,640 Speaker 1: the penalty, and Trubisky throws a deep ball to George 617 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 1: Pickens that was nowhere near close. 618 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 2: Nowhere near close. 619 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: All you need to do, Hey, it's against twenty four 620 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: to thirteen. You're in the game. They hadn't started running 621 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,679 Speaker 1: the ball like crazy yet, and all you need is 622 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 1: five yards to make a fit what would have been 623 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: a fifty six or fifty seven yard field goal attempt. 624 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 2: It's just a bad decision, yeah, I mean, that's just not. 625 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: A make it a fifty yard field goal attempt. Then 626 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 1: you kick it. Now twenty twenty four to sixteen, you're 627 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: down one. 628 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 2: Score, you're you're at least in it, and you're if 629 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 2: you've a puncher's chance, and you're hanging around. And absolutely 630 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 2: one key point I thought of the game, just as 631 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 2: a viewer sitting there watching when Nause lost the fumble, 632 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 2: that was a big one. I felt like the wind 633 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 2: went out of my sales. I felt like the wind 634 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 2: went out of the stadium sale or the Steeler sales 635 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: like it's an uncharacteristic play for him, and it was like, Ooh, 636 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 2: I don't know if they can overcome that the way 637 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 2: they're playing, and they couldn't. 638 00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:07,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, And then of course then you give up a 639 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: touchdown on the next very next play. 640 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: Exactly like two shots. 641 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: That was the Moley Cox So really you had because 642 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 1: you your defense had come out to start the third 643 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,240 Speaker 1: quarter with a three and out. 644 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I think people forget about that. 645 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: It's fourteen thirteen. The defense forces a three and out, 646 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: you get the punt. Okay, they get a good punt 647 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 1: out of it, but you still have the football at 648 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 1: your own ten. 649 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:30,919 Speaker 2: The end of the first half didn't go well, but 650 00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 2: the very beginning of the second half, did you know, right? 651 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: And then you get the fumble and all of a sudden, 652 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 1: now you're down, you know, and now it's twenty one thirteen. 653 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: Then they get the ball, you know, you go, your 654 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,680 Speaker 1: offense goes three and out again on the next possession. Yeah, 655 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: and they go down and they get another field goal 656 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: after a short punt. That's been a problem like that's. 657 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 2: The punting issues are brutal right now. 658 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: There's there's no reason to be kicking a ball, you know, 659 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: forty yards on a line drive indoors. 660 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 2: Indoors, No, none, It's it's one of the several unacceptable 661 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: aspects of this team right now that can't be overlooked. 662 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 2: And there's not enough room for margin to get air 663 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 2: from room from margin of error to overcome those things. 664 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: And I'd be, well, I don't they make a change there. 665 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: You're not going to make a change right now because 666 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,040 Speaker 1: that's all shoe your holder. 667 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I'm sure there'll be competition in the 668 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 2: off season. 669 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: Oh, I don't even know if I would, Yeah, may 670 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 1: be back, Yeah, I would, just I would just perhaps 671 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: do something different. 672 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,959 Speaker 2: I mean along those lines, I would have tried bods 673 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 2: from fifty six or fifty seven, just because I tried. 674 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 2: I just think he's better at his job than Harvin. 675 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: I understand that thinking what Mike Tomlin's thinking was, and 676 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: he explained it today he was asked about it. He said, well, 677 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 1: it's a fifty probably a you know, fifty six fifty 678 00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: seven yard field goal attempt. If we miss it, they 679 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: get the ball midfield. Our defense was already leaking, he said, 680 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: I decided to try to get you know, let's try 681 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: to pin him back and see because again your offense, 682 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: you run your offense differently when you're inside your own ten. 683 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: Oh big time. 684 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: He said that the idea was to punt them down 685 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: and get the ball down inside the ten somewhere. Instead, 686 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: you know, Harvin has a kick that said, he goes 687 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: twenty two yards to the seventeen. 688 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you netted twenty two yards out of it. And 689 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: there's some hindsight here, but I mean, I'm just losing 690 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 2: a lot of trust in Harvin at the moment. Yeah. 691 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: Again, at that point, you're down eleven points. It's not 692 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: like it's I think you kind of had the weigh. 693 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: Boswald missed a point a point after that was going 694 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 1: to bring that. 695 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 2: Up, Like, I don't know this to be true. It 696 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 2: might not even have a shred of truth, but there's 697 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 2: a chance because I've been with teams. Maybe he wasn't 698 00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 2: kicking well in pregame. He missed an extra point unbos like, 699 00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 2: maybe he has a calf or a groin or something 700 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,880 Speaker 2: that I don't know about and never will I'm not 701 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 2: that's not excuse. But it didn't add up to me 702 00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 2: that you wouldn't go for the long kick in the 703 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: dome unless something like that's going on. So the Tomlin 704 00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 2: would never be like I didn't trust bas they take 705 00:30:57,480 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 2: it like to take the arrow. 706 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: They'll go into a game and he'll and and Boswell 707 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: tell him, yeah, I'm good from whatever distance. 708 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. Pregame kicking is important. 709 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: Now I know Boswell went out onto the field, just 710 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: came running out when they you know when that when 711 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: that after the incompletion and then got called back over. 712 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know if they were right on the 713 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: edge of his his range for the games magic number 714 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,240 Speaker 1: for the day, So that's right on the edge. And 715 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: Tomlin decided. 716 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: That's all pre scripted beforehand. Yeah, folks, you a dome 717 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: where there's no weather. It's not like the wind picked 718 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 2: up or something. 719 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: Right, But the fact that their guy missed two kicks, 720 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: now he's miss kicks, you know, he's that's there were 721 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: three miss kicks in the game leads me to believe 722 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: maybe there was something. I don't know if if that 723 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: dome is tough to kick. 724 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: In, they are not. I know that, and that wasn't 725 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 2: the difference in the game that coaching decision. 726 00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: I do know the goalposts in that place, if you 727 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: haven't been in there are kind of so when you 728 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: you walk in at street level in the r C 729 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,760 Speaker 1: or not the RCA Dome, the Lucas Royle Stadium, Yeah, 730 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 1: when you walk in, you are basically at level with 731 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: the field level. No field levels down below. 732 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,080 Speaker 2: Oh you coming up top? Okay, yeah, so. 733 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: When you when you come in, you're looking at the 734 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: goal post basically like the tops of the goal post. 735 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: So I don't know if the if the what if 736 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: the wind kind of swirls around in there or whatever, 737 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: you know, air conditioning or heat or whatever they have on. 738 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't know in the end that they were going 739 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 1: to I know is where all the doors are at. 740 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: So I don't know, and it's also I believe the 741 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 1: end where Gay missed both of his kicks. 742 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: So I can't comment on any of that, but I 743 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: do know every stadium, including domes, have their own characteristic. 744 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: I just I just know that there's I mean, Mike 745 00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 1: Tomlin has has run Chris Boswell out there for some 746 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: kicks that I didn't think he was going to try. 747 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 2: H Yeah, it's not Tomlin's first game in that building. 748 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: Now, the five years ago. If we if somebody just said, 749 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: you know, I can't believe we can try Boswa on 750 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,480 Speaker 1: a fifty seven yard field, go, I'd be like. 751 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 2: Why would you? He doesn't have that ring. 752 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he's shown that this year. But I understand 753 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: what Tomlin's thinking, Hey, we got to get a punt. 754 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,840 Speaker 1: If we get a punt down, if it's at the 755 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 1: if it's at. 756 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 2: The eleven or the twelve, the punt was bad. I 757 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 2: had an again, so many bad punts the last month 758 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 2: or so. 759 00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: And this again, this team can't afford to overcome the 760 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: again fundamental things. Yeah, that's your your job, your one job. 761 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 2: Keep the routine, routine. As you mentioned, Yeah, I mean 762 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: it doesn't have to be on the two. It doesn't 763 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 2: have to be a perfect kick. It just can't be 764 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 2: a bad one. 765 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, just can't be. You know, the one punt before 766 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: the touchdown drive, it's a line drive, a forty yard 767 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: line drive kick. 768 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: Where it were you have no chance to get that. 769 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:39,760 Speaker 1: Dollas catches it on the run like he's already got 770 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: He's full at full speed when he catches it. 771 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: You'd much rather have a short one that goes to 772 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 2: the roof. I mean, at least you can get under it. 773 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:47,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not going to get any return. 774 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 2: I get no chance to get get there in time. 775 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 2: On line drive punts are the worst. 776 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: I was looking at it. I'm like, because the press 777 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 1: box there were so high, I saw the punt and 778 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: I'm like, I can't tell if that was a bad 779 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: punt or not. I know it wasn't long, but I 780 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: couldn't tell if it was very high. And then I 781 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,880 Speaker 1: looked up and watched the replay of it. I'm like, oh, no, 782 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: that was a bad punt. 783 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,600 Speaker 2: There's been too many of them. And it seems is 784 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:11,120 Speaker 2: this his third years of Steeler Harvin, Yeah, it seems 785 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: like as the season goes on, it gets worse. So 786 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,440 Speaker 2: it used to, Like you mentioned whether other than this, 787 00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,359 Speaker 2: But there's no best reliable as the season goes on, 788 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 2: and you can't have it. 789 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,640 Speaker 1: No, you just can't. So it's just one of the 790 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 1: many things that we'll talk about it more as we 791 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: get into the offseason. But I would expect it, at 792 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: the very least, expect some competition. 793 00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:31,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. 794 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he had a competition this year and he 795 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: won it. I mean we saw it. He was great 796 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: in camp. He would have been my pick too, you know. 797 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: But there you have it. 798 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 2: The other thing I didn't see coming, and I think 799 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 2: you have to credit the opponent, but also blame the Steelers. 800 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 2: Colts were incredible on both lines of scrimmage. Yeah, I 801 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:49,759 Speaker 2: mean they just we can blame the middle of the 802 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 2: field and the injuries, but they lost this game in 803 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,799 Speaker 2: the trenches. Yeah, I mean they just on both sides 804 00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: of the ball. 805 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 1: And really I was kind of surprised that they lost 806 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: it so badly. But their offensive line. 807 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, they'd be much more competitive. It wasn't both sides 808 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 2: of all that. The Colts were very good in the trenches. 809 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, But we're going to get to another break. 810 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. I'm dale Lelly, You're listening 811 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be 812 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: back to finish up the show right after this. Welcome 813 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:28,279 Speaker 1: back to the Drive. I'm Dale Lelly. He is the 814 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:34,320 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson and Matt I know in some cases Steeler 815 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: fans have short memories. Sometimes I have a short memory. 816 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: I have to go look this stuff up. So I 817 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: was just curious. I remembered in ninety eight, in ninety nine, 818 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: the Steelers being in playoff contention at the midway part 819 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: of the season and then falling out of contention. 820 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 2: Pretty quickly, losing streaks or things like things that we're 821 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: dealing with right now. 822 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 1: So the nineteen ninety eight season, they started the season 823 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 1: six and three. Remember this is a team coming off 824 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 1: an AFC Championship appearance. So you're thinking, oh, that's pretty 825 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,000 Speaker 1: good football team. 826 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, six and three and right and hunt and. 827 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: Finished seven and nine. So they went one and six 828 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: down the stretch. In ninety nine, they started five and three. 829 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:22,480 Speaker 1: You're like, okay, that was an operation. Last year, started 830 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 1: five and three, finished six and ten. 831 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,799 Speaker 2: Oucho one of your last eight. Yeah. 832 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: Then they lost in two thousand to start the season off, 833 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: they lost their first three games of the season. So 834 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: they went one in eight to finish the season, then 835 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,320 Speaker 1: lost their first three in a row in two thousand 836 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: and one in ten stretch. 837 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 2: Wow, I kind of glad we weren't doing the drive 838 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,439 Speaker 2: at that point. 839 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,359 Speaker 1: Imagine what what do you think social. 840 00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 2: Media would have been like? 841 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 1: Bill Kawer had a one and ten stretch. 842 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 2: That had been a long off season, and then it 843 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 2: looks optimistic camp and preseason and and three. Ouch. 844 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 1: That two thousand team rebounded from its and three start 845 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 1: to finish nine and seven and just missed the playoffs 846 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: they needed and they needed a couple of things to happen. 847 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: They were out in San Diego playing the Chargers. They 848 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: took care of their part of it. They won their 849 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: game and then didn't hit. But it gave you some 850 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of a kickstart going into the 851 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,200 Speaker 1: two thousand and one season. 852 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,200 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, a bunch of obvious. 853 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:33,240 Speaker 1: A bunch of young defensive players playing even the last 854 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: losing season that the Steelers had. And I'm not saying 855 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm not ready to concede that this is going to 856 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: be a losing season or anything of the sword at 857 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 1: this point. But if you think back to that two 858 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: thousand and three season, they went six and ten. They 859 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: started really badly that year. Again, they were two and 860 00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: six at the midway point and rebounded to finish six 861 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: and ten, six and ten they went, They went four 862 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 1: and four four four in the second half of the season. 863 00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: So when you look at this, you know, is this 864 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 1: a bad stretch? Absolutely? Oh, absolutely horrible, horrible? Is it 865 00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: the worst stretch of Steeler football I've ever seen? No? 866 00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,120 Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure not. No, right right? 867 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,959 Speaker 1: No, that that that ninety nine season was miserable. Yeah. Again, 868 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: you went one and you went one in seven in 869 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: the second half of the season. 870 00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:25,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yuck. 871 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 1: Now with what's been changing quarterbacks and you know all that. 872 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,960 Speaker 2: Kind of stuff. Now, could this season end up being 873 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 2: zero and six to go down the stretch? It could, 874 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: I mean, and that would be brutal. Now, folks, please 875 00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,239 Speaker 2: don't take this wrong. Please please please don't take this wrong. 876 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 2: And rewind an Hour, we think the forty nine Ers 877 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 2: are the best team in the league. Yes, I don't 878 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 2: think the Steelers are as good as the best team 879 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 2: in the league. But right before the bye, the Niners 880 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,239 Speaker 2: lost three or four or three in a row. Like 881 00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,759 Speaker 2: there are bad stretches even for they were all banged up, 882 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,840 Speaker 2: but yeah, Trent Williams is out and they were pretty 883 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 2: ragged at that point. Needed to buy Like, I'm just 884 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 2: saying that even the best of teams, and this is 885 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: not the best of teams. It's not what I'm saying. 886 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: I'm not being an apologist, but the teams that are 887 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: rolling will look back at the season be like, boy, 888 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:15,280 Speaker 2: that's a tough stretch. 889 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:19,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, the worst part I could remember that ninety nine team, 890 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it was ninety nine. So they opened 891 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 1: the season against the expansion Browns. They win that game 892 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,239 Speaker 1: forty three to nothing, and it wasn't even that competitive 893 00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: the Browns. The Steelers had four hundred and sixty four 894 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: total yards, the Browns had forty forty. They had ten 895 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: times as many yards as they did. It was easily 896 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,040 Speaker 1: the worst beating I've ever seen an NFL team, give 897 00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: another one. 898 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,640 Speaker 2: That expansion Browns team was not done many favors by 899 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 2: the league. No, no, because the league was way too 900 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: kind to the Jags and Panthers, and they took it 901 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 2: out on the Browns. 902 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: In Week ten of that year, the Browns come to Pittsburgh. 903 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 2: Still the expansion Browns, I don't think. 904 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: I think they were winless at that point really so 905 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,880 Speaker 1: that you'd beaten this team forty three to nothing and 906 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: out gained it four sixty four to forty throttle just 907 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 1: just probably as in the fourth quarter. Yeah, And they 908 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:19,759 Speaker 1: come here on November fourteenth of that year, and I'll 909 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: never forget. I was actually down on the sideline at 910 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,280 Speaker 1: for the end of this one. Steelers are winning fifteen 911 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: thirteen in the fourth quarter and Phil Dawson field goal. 912 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: Phill I was kicks a field goal, thirty nine yard 913 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,080 Speaker 1: field goal as time expired, and just to look on 914 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: Bill Cower's face was like disbelief. 915 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 2: Steelers are probably twelve point favorites or something that day. 916 00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 1: Or I don't see if they have the point spread 917 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 1: in here. 918 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 2: They monitor those things at that time, or. 919 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes they do for more recent games. This one, I 920 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: don't see. 921 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 2: They definitely were a big favor fourteen. 922 00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: And a half point favorite. It is a fourteen and 923 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,680 Speaker 1: a half point favorites. The over under was thirty four 924 00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: and a half. 925 00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,240 Speaker 2: Just then, think it's gonna be shoot. 926 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,720 Speaker 1: And a team that you had beaten forty three nothing, 927 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 1: not that long ago, two months before, two months before 928 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: came in and beat you sixteen fifteen, and that started 929 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: the downward spiral. 930 00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,759 Speaker 2: Oh wow, that was the first loss by disheartening though. 931 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: They ended up then losing the next what seven six 932 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: in a row here, six in a row before rallying 933 00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: to beat the Panthers another you know, a team that 934 00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: was kind of new Yeah. Ugly, ugly, uglyugly. 935 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,480 Speaker 2: I mean there's a lot of this stuff in Steeler history. 936 00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot of it in twenty twenty three NFL history. 937 00:41:36,160 --> 00:41:38,359 Speaker 2: It's a crazy league. The Steelers are in a bad 938 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,000 Speaker 2: place right now, folks. They're not playing good football. When 939 00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,600 Speaker 2: we took power ranks tomorrow, I'm going to lobby for 940 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 2: them to be low because that's how they're playing right now. 941 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 2: But it's a crazy league. It just is. 942 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: Other teams are losing too, that's the problem. 943 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 2: Like you know, yeah, I mean, Cincinnati's finding ways to win. 944 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 2: They're the next opponent. But you can't convince me that 945 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 2: this is an unwin game. 946 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 1: No, no, I mean, any of these games are quote 947 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,080 Speaker 1: unquote winnable. It's just a matter of you know, which 948 00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:10,040 Speaker 1: team shows up. Is it the Steelers that was winning 949 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: these kind of games early in the season, or is 950 00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: it this one. 951 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 2: That's that. 952 00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:16,760 Speaker 1: You know, again, what's your football character? What's your character 953 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,319 Speaker 1: of your team? 954 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:20,000 Speaker 2: Close to one hundred yards and penalties aren't going to 955 00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:26,719 Speaker 2: get it done with, you know, missed extra point and turnovers. 956 00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: I mean, you're not going to win that game. But 957 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 2: if you play clean, you should be in it. 958 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 1: That ninety eight team lost the coin flip game, the 959 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: Jerome Bettis coin flip game that started a five game 960 00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 1: losing streak to end the season, in which they scored 961 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,480 Speaker 1: sixteen points against the Lions in that overtime loss. They 962 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: then scored nine against the Patriots the next week. Then 963 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: they scored three against Tampa Bay down in Tampa. Then 964 00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:58,840 Speaker 1: they lost a twenty five to twenty four game to 965 00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 1: the Bengals, and then finished things off with a twenty 966 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 1: one to three We lost to the Jaguars, five game 967 00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:06,480 Speaker 1: losing street going into the off season. 968 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, these things have happened before. 969 00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 1: I might right. Bill Cower is revered in Pittsburgh, revered. 970 00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 2: Some revisionist history too. Yeah, there were some down moments. 971 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: There, There were some down moments. I'm not saying Bill 972 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: doesn't deserve to be revered. He won a Super Bowl 973 00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: here fame, you know, but this was the wasn't perfect either, 974 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: no stuff that. This wasn't the This wasn't even the 975 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,440 Speaker 1: end of the Cower. I know this is prior to this. 976 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: He lost what three AFC Championship games in Pittsburgh, that 977 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: Charger game in Pittsburgh. Yeah, there was one of them. 978 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,799 Speaker 1: He lost two of them. Yeah, but you know, so 979 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,000 Speaker 1: one thing that isn't uncommon. One thing that I know 980 00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: is that this organization is not going to panic. We're 981 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:52,440 Speaker 1: not going to say, hey, we're just going. 982 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 2: To go loose. 983 00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: I saw somebody tweet it at me. Well, it's my 984 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,800 Speaker 1: belief that that Art Rooney went to build Mike Tomlin 985 00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,279 Speaker 1: and said, uh, just lose these last few games here. 986 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:03,399 Speaker 1: Not a chance. 987 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 2: That's not a chance, no chance. 988 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,400 Speaker 1: And that's why the team's not playing well. They you know, 989 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,840 Speaker 1: they understand that that Tomlin's not trying to win, so 990 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:12,800 Speaker 1: they just quit. No, no, no. 991 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,479 Speaker 2: No way. You'll never sell me on that. No, you'll 992 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,280 Speaker 2: never sell me on that. No, not this organization. I 993 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 2: wouldn't put it past some organizations, but there's there's. 994 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: Just no possible way that that's happening. 995 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 2: We'll lose out that's what we want. 996 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll they'll play these final three games and they'll 997 00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:31,440 Speaker 1: take them one game at a time and try to 998 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,239 Speaker 1: win each game on its own. And if that's good 999 00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 1: enough to get him into the playoffs, so be it. 1000 00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:38,720 Speaker 1: If it's not, they're going to go down swinging. 1001 00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:41,120 Speaker 2: Mm No, I have no doubt about that. I don't 1002 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 2: think it's going to be call up the backup goalie 1003 00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 2: so you can get Lemieux. No, I don't think that's 1004 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:48,160 Speaker 2: the way it's going to go. 1005 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. But that's going to do it for our 1006 00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: show today. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin 1007 00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 1: Miller here on site keeping us on the air, I'm Dale, Lolly. 1008 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: We appreciate you listening to this edition of The Drive 1009 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:03,840 Speaker 1: on Steeler Nation Radio.