Speaker 1: Hey you, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm josh,
Speaker 1: there's Chuck short stuff. Let's go, let's go, let's go.
Speaker 1: It's short stuff. Yeah. So this one is uh courtesy
Speaker 1: kind of of NC State University. Go back. Oh, yes,
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm glad you said that. I couldn't remember
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Speaker 1: it's Barry Manal of University Golden Pirates Love. I saw
Speaker 1: that guy in person in concert front row center. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When was that in Vegas? I don't know, two thirteen,
Speaker 1: fourteen fifteen? Was it great? Oh? One of the best ever.
Speaker 1: I mean that was a huge, huge Berry Manly fan
Speaker 1: as a kid, four or five of his records, And
Speaker 1: I'm sure my mom was just like, what is going on?
Speaker 1: Don't right? But we're not talking about that. We're talking
Speaker 1: about your gross bed and the fact that you lay
Speaker 1: in it every night. Yeah. How often do you change
Speaker 1: your bed sheets? Once a week? Yeah? Same here. I
Speaker 1: think that's normal. Yeah. Um, And I mean it's not
Speaker 1: like it's not like I, um, like I used the bathroom,
Speaker 1: take my clothes off, and then just go to bed
Speaker 1: without cleaning myself off every night either. But it turns
Speaker 1: out that from investigations into the human bed, you would
Speaker 1: get the impression that all of us do something very
Speaker 1: similar to that every night, because apparently human bed is,
Speaker 1: like you said, really really gross on the microbial level
Speaker 1: at least. Yeah, and then the point is not to
Speaker 1: gross you out, but it because it shouldn't gross you out.
Speaker 1: Kind of my point. If you're doing it once a week, changeover,
Speaker 1: that's that's not too bad, no, because you know, we
Speaker 1: don't live on the microbial level, so we couldn't care less,
Speaker 1: that's right. But when you get in your bed, there
Speaker 1: are trillions of microbes that make up your own human microbiome,
Speaker 1: and you are you're shedding this stuff. Um, you're shedding well,
Speaker 1: kind of gross stuff at times, but it's on that
Speaker 1: microbial level, so you're just try not to think about it.
Speaker 1: But there are fecal oral and skin bacteria, fecal bacteria
Speaker 1: that you're shedding in your bed on a nightly basis. Yes,
Speaker 1: under normal circumstances outside of this episode, you don't really
Speaker 1: think about that. But that's also the reason that your
Speaker 1: parents taught you never to lick your own sheets, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well you gotta get the food stuff out of there first,
Speaker 1: so you lick it. Then, well you just you you
Speaker 1: make a cup with one of your hands, the palm
Speaker 1: one in your hands, and then you use the other
Speaker 1: hand to scoop that stuff into the cup and then
Speaker 1: you eat it like that, like a handful and nuts.
Speaker 1: Don't ever lick your sheets. It's just right. That's a
Speaker 1: good point. So the the point of all this is,
Speaker 1: like you said, it's not that gross. Everybody out chuck.
Speaker 1: It's to basically say, um, humans are primates. Let's find
Speaker 1: out how much our beds differ from other primates. Bets
Speaker 1: isn't that correct? Yeah, And these researchers at NC State University,
Speaker 1: I think, I think inen did this and they found
Speaker 1: as far as we go, about thirty of the bacteria
Speaker 1: and our beds come from us. Uh. Like I said that,
Speaker 1: the oral and skin and fecal bacteria, and they're like, well,
Speaker 1: that makes sense coming from our own bodies. And we
Speaker 1: are really curious because chimpanzees are close to us. What
Speaker 1: the deal is with them. Because here's the thing I
Speaker 1: never knew about chimpanzees. They make a new nut, make
Speaker 1: their bed, They build and construct a brand new bed
Speaker 1: for themselves every single day. I did not know that either.
Speaker 1: I think that's a very refreshing fact that I had
Speaker 1: no idea about chimps. I I see them in a
Speaker 1: different light now, and I feel like kind of a
Speaker 1: jerk for thinking they were a little dirty before. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they wanted to find out like what's going on
Speaker 1: in a chimpanzee bed and what they were kind of
Speaker 1: zeerring in on. It's not like how dirty are they,
Speaker 1: but how much of their own microbiome is in their
Speaker 1: bed compared to um other stuff from their environment since
Speaker 1: they're you know, these beds are up in trees, Like
Speaker 1: are their tiny little insects all over the place, and
Speaker 1: like gross stuff from them? Or is it mainly just
Speaker 1: stuff from the chimpanzee. Yeah, the researchers were like, it's
Speaker 1: gross enough talking about human beds. Let's try to make
Speaker 1: everybody barth by talking about chimpanzee beds. Should we cliffhanger
Speaker 1: right there and take a break? You bet your your sweet,
Speaker 1: but you bet your sweet chimpanzee. All right, we'll be
Speaker 1: back with Zippy the Chimp right after this as skuld Okay,
Speaker 1: we're back and we're with Zippy the Chimp. Is that
Speaker 1: a new chimper? Is that like a throwback from the fifties? Um,
Speaker 1: Zippy was an actual uh lovey as my daughter calls,
Speaker 1: some little stuffed animal that I had when I was little,
Speaker 1: and it had a hand that you could squeeze. It
Speaker 1: was he wearing red overalls in a red cap. I
Speaker 1: think Zippy had red. Do you remember remember when we
Speaker 1: used to make like galleries on the blogs as part
Speaker 1: of our job. You made you made knockoff lovees, right,
Speaker 1: they I found like the I made it one of
Speaker 1: the best galleries ever. Was like the most unsettling dolls
Speaker 1: of all time, and that it was like fifty or
Speaker 1: sixty of them. But Zippy was definitely in there. Those
Speaker 1: are those are weird times when they were like the
Speaker 1: page views equal money, guys. I know, if you could
Speaker 1: come up with like a hundred pictures, let's say, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a step up from the knockoff wallets. They
Speaker 1: had a sewing prior to that. I thank god for
Speaker 1: the blogs coming along. Yes, A Zippi with war Red
Speaker 1: and then uh, my mom was so great. Also, my
Speaker 1: one of my favorite books growing up was Cortu Roy
Speaker 1: the Bear, the Department Store Bear and Corturoy war green
Speaker 1: Corturoy overalls. And my mom took a Teddy Bear lovey
Speaker 1: that looked like cot Roy and made homemade these little
Speaker 1: green coote Roy overalls for him. That is so sweet
Speaker 1: and I still have that now. My daughter has it
Speaker 1: in her room with her other fifty lovees. That is
Speaker 1: very sweet. That is a great story. I'm glad you
Speaker 1: you use that as a tangent and not because that
Speaker 1: this this article is a little thin. Well we are
Speaker 1: killing some time, aren't we. So um, we're talking about
Speaker 1: this study where they wanted to basically compare um human
Speaker 1: beds to chimpanzee beds to just you know, basically make
Speaker 1: chips look bad, point out how great humans are. And
Speaker 1: they went back and they looked at their findings and
Speaker 1: they went what and found that no, no, no, chimps
Speaker 1: actually are pretty clean if you compare beds to beds
Speaker 1: between humans and other primates including chimps. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they got They went to Tanzania, which is a great
Speaker 1: place to go if you want to get some chimps.
Speaker 1: And they got swabs from forty one chimpanzee beds or
Speaker 1: nests they call him nests too, and then they tested
Speaker 1: those for the diversity, the micro microbial biodiversity. And then
Speaker 1: I think for fifteen of those nests they even use
Speaker 1: vacuums because I talked about the insects and stuff that
Speaker 1: you're invariably gonna get when you live in the woods
Speaker 1: in a nest, Yeah, and they wanted to see kind
Speaker 1: of what was in there, so they vacuumed up about
Speaker 1: fifteen of them. And then, like you said, they thought
Speaker 1: they were going to see about the same thing, which
Speaker 1: is that chimpanzees had a bunch of gross stuff from
Speaker 1: their own bodies and their beds, and they found the opposite.
Speaker 1: They found almost entirely the bed were almost entirely lacking. Uh.
Speaker 1: They did find that the bacteria, environmental bacteria is what
Speaker 1: dominated the nest and not chimpanzee gunk. Yeah, no oral,
Speaker 1: no skin, no fecal bacteria even And get this, everybody
Speaker 1: like if you sleep naked, yes, you're gonna get some
Speaker 1: fecal bacteria on your bed sheets. This is inevitable no
Speaker 1: matter how clean you are. I'm sorry, we're talking about
Speaker 1: microbes here. It's okay, it's okay, it's normal. Chimpanzees do
Speaker 1: not traditionally wear pants of any kind. They sleep naked
Speaker 1: all the time without variation, unless unless they live at
Speaker 1: a house and they wear pants. But that is definitely
Speaker 1: not the norm among chimpanzees in the wild. No pants.
Speaker 1: And yet not a single type of fecal bacteria that's
Speaker 1: known to inhabit chimpanzees feces was found in their nests
Speaker 1: and any of the nests that they studied, which means
Speaker 1: it's sad to say everyone, chimpanzees are way cleaner than you.
Speaker 1: When it comes to beds. Yeah, I mean, what we've
Speaker 1: done is we've gotten rid of you know, we don't
Speaker 1: wear shoes in bed, heaven forbid, and stuff like that,
Speaker 1: so we're not tracking in as much stuff from the outside.
Speaker 1: We generally changed into jammys or uh, heaven forbid. If
Speaker 1: he sleep naked in your bed, like you were just
Speaker 1: talking about, I can't do that, never have been able to.
Speaker 1: I have a friend who warned me never to sleep
Speaker 1: naked because he was in a house fire once and
Speaker 1: his life was actually saved by the person whose apartment
Speaker 1: he was at, and um, he was sleeping naked and
Speaker 1: ended up outside in this condo complex totally naked in
Speaker 1: the middle of the night because of this fire that
Speaker 1: again his life had just been saved from. So he
Speaker 1: was grateful to be alive, but also ungrateful to have
Speaker 1: been naked. And I don't believe he ever slept naked
Speaker 1: again after that. And he said one of the neighbors
Speaker 1: gave him like a blanket or something, but he was
Speaker 1: standing out there naked for a little while thanks to
Speaker 1: that house fire. Yeah, I sleep on top of the
Speaker 1: covers generally, like sometimes i'll snuggle up under and like
Speaker 1: the dead of winter, but I basically just sleep completely
Speaker 1: on top of the bed. And the thought of sleeping
Speaker 1: completely on top of the bed completely naked is makes
Speaker 1: me feel vulnerable. I think it's disgusting. Nobody wants to
Speaker 1: see that, and you know, I don't know, I just
Speaker 1: I feel really vulnerable, like, oh yeah, like somebody could
Speaker 1: come along and punch any terrible place, just whatever. I
Speaker 1: just don't want my parts exposed like that all night,
Speaker 1: for like eight hours in a row. So instead you
Speaker 1: wear nothing but a blazer a porky biggott. Oh that's
Speaker 1: good stuff. Um So, anyway, where I was going is
Speaker 1: is that our beds don't have a lot of that
Speaker 1: outside stuff because we change into other things and we
Speaker 1: don't get that stuff on our bed generally. So it's
Speaker 1: just a less diverse uh set of microbes that are
Speaker 1: in our bed. It's mainly from our bodies. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's no mystery to why chimp's beds are cleaner. They
Speaker 1: make their own nests their beds night after night from scratch.
Speaker 1: They just get a bunch of twigs and leaves and
Speaker 1: make a new bed every single night, which is pretty
Speaker 1: neat that. They're like, it's gross to sleep in the
Speaker 1: same bed twice. I can't believe humans do it. That's right,
Speaker 1: So we want to shout out once again. N C
Speaker 1: State University in their paper the Ecology of Sleeping colon
Speaker 1: the microbial uh and Arthur Pod Associates of Chimpanzee beds.
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