WEBVTT - Short Stuff: Your Dirty Bed

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<v Speaker 1>Hey you, and welcome to the short Stuff. I'm josh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's Chuck short stuff. Let's go, let's go, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>It's short stuff. Yeah. So this one is uh courtesy

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<v Speaker 1>kind of of NC State University. Go back. Oh, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. I'm glad you said that. I couldn't remember

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<v Speaker 1>you about Star Heels I might have been. I'm sorry, bad, bad,

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<v Speaker 1>bad move. I was gonna call them the Golden Pirates

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<v Speaker 1>of Love. Oh that's good. I like that. Well, if

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<v Speaker 1>you ever found a university, I expect you to use

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<v Speaker 1>it's Barry Manal of University Golden Pirates Love. I saw

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<v Speaker 1>that guy in person in concert front row center. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>When was that in Vegas? I don't know, two thirteen,

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifteen? Was it great? Oh? One of the best ever.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that was a huge, huge Berry Manly fan

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<v Speaker 1>as a kid, four or five of his records, And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure my mom was just like, what is going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Don't right? But we're not talking about that. We're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about your gross bed and the fact that you lay

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<v Speaker 1>in it every night. Yeah. How often do you change

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<v Speaker 1>your bed sheets? Once a week? Yeah? Same here. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's normal. Yeah. Um, And I mean it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like it's not like I, um, like I used the bathroom,

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<v Speaker 1>take my clothes off, and then just go to bed

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<v Speaker 1>without cleaning myself off every night either. But it turns

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<v Speaker 1>out that from investigations into the human bed, you would

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<v Speaker 1>get the impression that all of us do something very

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<v Speaker 1>similar to that every night, because apparently human bed is,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, really really gross on the microbial level

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<v Speaker 1>at least. Yeah, and then the point is not to

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<v Speaker 1>gross you out, but it because it shouldn't gross you out.

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<v Speaker 1>Kind of my point. If you're doing it once a week, changeover,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's not too bad, no, because you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't live on the microbial level, so we couldn't care less,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. But when you get in your bed, there

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<v Speaker 1>are trillions of microbes that make up your own human microbiome,

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<v Speaker 1>and you are you're shedding this stuff. Um, you're shedding well,

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gross stuff at times, but it's on that

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<v Speaker 1>microbial level, so you're just try not to think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are fecal oral and skin bacteria, fecal bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>that you're shedding in your bed on a nightly basis. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>under normal circumstances outside of this episode, you don't really

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. But that's also the reason that your

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<v Speaker 1>parents taught you never to lick your own sheets, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well you gotta get the food stuff out of there first,

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<v Speaker 1>so you lick it. Then, well you just you you

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<v Speaker 1>make a cup with one of your hands, the palm

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<v Speaker 1>one in your hands, and then you use the other

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<v Speaker 1>hand to scoop that stuff into the cup and then

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<v Speaker 1>you eat it like that, like a handful and nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't ever lick your sheets. It's just right. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>good point. So the the point of all this is,

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<v Speaker 1>like you said, it's not that gross. Everybody out chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>It's to basically say, um, humans are primates. Let's find

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<v Speaker 1>out how much our beds differ from other primates. Bets

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<v Speaker 1>isn't that correct? Yeah, And these researchers at NC State University,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think inen did this and they found

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<v Speaker 1>as far as we go, about thirty of the bacteria

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<v Speaker 1>and our beds come from us. Uh. Like I said that,

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<v Speaker 1>the oral and skin and fecal bacteria, and they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense coming from our own bodies. And we

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<v Speaker 1>are really curious because chimpanzees are close to us. What

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<v Speaker 1>the deal is with them. Because here's the thing I

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<v Speaker 1>never knew about chimpanzees. They make a new nut, make

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<v Speaker 1>their bed, They build and construct a brand new bed

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<v Speaker 1>for themselves every single day. I did not know that either.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a very refreshing fact that I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea about chimps. I I see them in a

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<v Speaker 1>different light now, and I feel like kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>jerk for thinking they were a little dirty before. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so they wanted to find out like what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in a chimpanzee bed and what they were kind of

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<v Speaker 1>zeerring in on. It's not like how dirty are they,

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<v Speaker 1>but how much of their own microbiome is in their

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<v Speaker 1>bed compared to um other stuff from their environment since

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<v Speaker 1>they're you know, these beds are up in trees, Like

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<v Speaker 1>are their tiny little insects all over the place, and

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<v Speaker 1>like gross stuff from them? Or is it mainly just

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<v Speaker 1>stuff from the chimpanzee. Yeah, the researchers were like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gross enough talking about human beds. Let's try to make

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<v Speaker 1>everybody barth by talking about chimpanzee beds. Should we cliffhanger

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<v Speaker 1>right there and take a break? You bet your your sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>but you bet your sweet chimpanzee. All right, we'll be

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<v Speaker 1>back with Zippy the Chimp right after this as skuld Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're back and we're with Zippy the Chimp. Is that

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<v Speaker 1>a new chimper? Is that like a throwback from the fifties? Um,

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<v Speaker 1>Zippy was an actual uh lovey as my daughter calls,

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<v Speaker 1>some little stuffed animal that I had when I was little,

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<v Speaker 1>and it had a hand that you could squeeze. It

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<v Speaker 1>was he wearing red overalls in a red cap. I

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<v Speaker 1>think Zippy had red. Do you remember remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>used to make like galleries on the blogs as part

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<v Speaker 1>of our job. You made you made knockoff lovees, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they I found like the I made it one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best galleries ever. Was like the most unsettling dolls

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, and that it was like fifty or

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<v Speaker 1>sixty of them. But Zippy was definitely in there. Those

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<v Speaker 1>are those are weird times when they were like the

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<v Speaker 1>page views equal money, guys. I know, if you could

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<v Speaker 1>come up with like a hundred pictures, let's say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a step up from the knockoff wallets. They

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<v Speaker 1>had a sewing prior to that. I thank god for

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<v Speaker 1>the blogs coming along. Yes, A Zippi with war Red

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<v Speaker 1>and then uh, my mom was so great. Also, my

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite books growing up was Cortu Roy

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<v Speaker 1>the Bear, the Department Store Bear and Corturoy war green

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<v Speaker 1>Corturoy overalls. And my mom took a Teddy Bear lovey

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<v Speaker 1>that looked like cot Roy and made homemade these little

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<v Speaker 1>green coote Roy overalls for him. That is so sweet

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<v Speaker 1>and I still have that now. My daughter has it

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<v Speaker 1>in her room with her other fifty lovees. That is

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<v Speaker 1>very sweet. That is a great story. I'm glad you

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<v Speaker 1>you use that as a tangent and not because that

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<v Speaker 1>this this article is a little thin. Well we are

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<v Speaker 1>killing some time, aren't we. So um, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>this study where they wanted to basically compare um human

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<v Speaker 1>beds to chimpanzee beds to just you know, basically make

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<v Speaker 1>chips look bad, point out how great humans are. And

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<v Speaker 1>they went back and they looked at their findings and

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<v Speaker 1>they went what and found that no, no, no, chimps

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<v Speaker 1>actually are pretty clean if you compare beds to beds

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<v Speaker 1>between humans and other primates including chimps. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they got They went to Tanzania, which is a great

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<v Speaker 1>place to go if you want to get some chimps.

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<v Speaker 1>And they got swabs from forty one chimpanzee beds or

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<v Speaker 1>nests they call him nests too, and then they tested

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<v Speaker 1>those for the diversity, the micro microbial biodiversity. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I think for fifteen of those nests they even use

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<v Speaker 1>vacuums because I talked about the insects and stuff that

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<v Speaker 1>you're invariably gonna get when you live in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>in a nest, Yeah, and they wanted to see kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what was in there, so they vacuumed up about

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen of them. And then, like you said, they thought

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<v Speaker 1>they were going to see about the same thing, which

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<v Speaker 1>is that chimpanzees had a bunch of gross stuff from

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<v Speaker 1>their own bodies and their beds, and they found the opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>They found almost entirely the bed were almost entirely lacking. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>They did find that the bacteria, environmental bacteria is what

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<v Speaker 1>dominated the nest and not chimpanzee gunk. Yeah, no oral,

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<v Speaker 1>no skin, no fecal bacteria even And get this, everybody

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<v Speaker 1>like if you sleep naked, yes, you're gonna get some

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<v Speaker 1>fecal bacteria on your bed sheets. This is inevitable no

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<v Speaker 1>matter how clean you are. I'm sorry, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>microbes here. It's okay, it's okay, it's normal. Chimpanzees do

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<v Speaker 1>not traditionally wear pants of any kind. They sleep naked

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<v Speaker 1>all the time without variation, unless unless they live at

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<v Speaker 1>a house and they wear pants. But that is definitely

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<v Speaker 1>not the norm among chimpanzees in the wild. No pants.

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<v Speaker 1>And yet not a single type of fecal bacteria that's

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<v Speaker 1>known to inhabit chimpanzees feces was found in their nests

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<v Speaker 1>and any of the nests that they studied, which means

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<v Speaker 1>it's sad to say everyone, chimpanzees are way cleaner than you.

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<v Speaker 1>When it comes to beds. Yeah, I mean, what we've

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<v Speaker 1>done is we've gotten rid of you know, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>wear shoes in bed, heaven forbid, and stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're not tracking in as much stuff from the outside.

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<v Speaker 1>We generally changed into jammys or uh, heaven forbid. If

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<v Speaker 1>he sleep naked in your bed, like you were just

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<v Speaker 1>talking about, I can't do that, never have been able to.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a friend who warned me never to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>naked because he was in a house fire once and

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<v Speaker 1>his life was actually saved by the person whose apartment

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<v Speaker 1>he was at, and um, he was sleeping naked and

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<v Speaker 1>ended up outside in this condo complex totally naked in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of the night because of this fire that

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<v Speaker 1>again his life had just been saved from. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was grateful to be alive, but also ungrateful to have

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<v Speaker 1>been naked. And I don't believe he ever slept naked

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<v Speaker 1>again after that. And he said one of the neighbors

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<v Speaker 1>gave him like a blanket or something, but he was

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<v Speaker 1>standing out there naked for a little while thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>that house fire. Yeah, I sleep on top of the

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<v Speaker 1>covers generally, like sometimes i'll snuggle up under and like

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<v Speaker 1>the dead of winter, but I basically just sleep completely

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<v Speaker 1>on top of the bed. And the thought of sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>completely on top of the bed completely naked is makes

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<v Speaker 1>me feel vulnerable. I think it's disgusting. Nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>see that, and you know, I don't know, I just

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<v Speaker 1>I feel really vulnerable, like, oh yeah, like somebody could

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<v Speaker 1>come along and punch any terrible place, just whatever. I

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<v Speaker 1>just don't want my parts exposed like that all night,

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<v Speaker 1>for like eight hours in a row. So instead you

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<v Speaker 1>wear nothing but a blazer a porky biggott. Oh that's

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<v Speaker 1>good stuff. Um So, anyway, where I was going is

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<v Speaker 1>is that our beds don't have a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>outside stuff because we change into other things and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't get that stuff on our bed generally. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a less diverse uh set of microbes that are

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<v Speaker 1>in our bed. It's mainly from our bodies. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no mystery to why chimp's beds are cleaner. They

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<v Speaker 1>make their own nests their beds night after night from scratch.

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<v Speaker 1>They just get a bunch of twigs and leaves and

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<v Speaker 1>make a new bed every single night, which is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>neat that. They're like, it's gross to sleep in the

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<v Speaker 1>same bed twice. I can't believe humans do it. That's right,

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<v Speaker 1>So we want to shout out once again. N C

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<v Speaker 1>State University in their paper the Ecology of Sleeping colon

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<v Speaker 1>the microbial uh and Arthur Pod Associates of Chimpanzee beds.

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<v Speaker 1>Very nice, quite a read, very nice, And since I

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<v Speaker 1>said very nice twice, that means, of course short stuff

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