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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Buck Brief. On this episode, first time, Caitlyn Sinclair joins us.

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Speaker 1: She is formerly of One American News, now with MAGA

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Speaker 1: inc MAGA Incorporated, which is very cool. So you're gonna

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Speaker 1: tell us about all things Trump world, the campaign, the election,

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Speaker 1: the future of the country, all that good stuff. Caitlin,

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Speaker 1: Good to see you.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you too, Buck. Maga pack has been

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Speaker 2: hitting the road hardcore.

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Speaker 3: Our main mission is, of course, to ensure that there

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Speaker 3: is a second Trump administration. And I really think we're

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Speaker 3: hearing from I'm based in New York. I have noticed

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Speaker 3: such a drastic shift Buck in and just the past

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Speaker 3: year alone. When we do these men on the Street interviews,

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Speaker 3: you have these Upper East Side moms that are now

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Speaker 3: so worried Buck about their kids being safe, what their

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Speaker 3: kids are learning in school, crime overall in the city.

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Speaker 3: And I think when you get the mama bear's upset

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Speaker 3: is where you might see a change. So we're really

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Speaker 3: excited seeing massive numbers in the polls. Of course, and

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Speaker 3: we're seeing that message start to shift across the country.

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Speaker 1: So you're part of the effort to reach out to

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Speaker 1: younger people, really what eighteen to twenty five, eighteen to

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Speaker 1: to them. What is that like?

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Speaker 2: It's been pretty incredible, I believe it or not.

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Speaker 3: The main platform is TikTok, which I, as.

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Speaker 2: A millennial, believe it or not, I'm not familiar with.

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Speaker 3: So it's been a little bit of a learning curve.

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Speaker 3: But we're trying to put the message out there. As

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Speaker 3: far as just simple numbers book just comparing, for example,

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Speaker 3: groceries what there are right now under Sleepy Joe what

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Speaker 3: they were under the Trump administrative student debt, the lies

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Speaker 3: this administration has about covering student debt, and just the

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Speaker 3: everyday issues that seem to matter more to the younger generation,

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Speaker 3: these younger generations, and encouraging them to get out and

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Speaker 3: vote because a lot of my peers and contemporaries don't

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Speaker 3: have faith in the election system anymore, which is so sad.

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Speaker 2: I mean, who would have thought that a.

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Speaker 3: Time would exist in this country where people say, oh,

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Speaker 3: I don't actually believe my vote talent, So I'm not

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Speaker 3: getting out to vote, so really also just encouraging them

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Speaker 2: So getting those messages out there.

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Speaker 3: TikTok is the number one platform for that, and Joe

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Speaker 3: to save TikTok. So that's a number one message as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so what is the Trump plan for TikTok? I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's one thing. You know, I have been opposed to

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Speaker 1: the outright ban of TikTok from the very beginning. Very

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Speaker 1: few people on the right have been as consistent of

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Speaker 1: this one. I have learned some amazing things about how

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Speaker 1: to really perfectly sear my stakes. There's a guy who

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't say has taught me how to make my

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Speaker 1: a lot, and that's very cool. Like, there is some good,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good non political content on TikTok that

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Speaker 1: I mean, TikTok's got a lot of great stuff.

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Speaker 3: And you know, even social media, by the way, that's also.

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Speaker 1: Something that's also It's the Internet, Like there's amazing stuff

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Speaker 1: and there, and there's there's trash, right, I mean, and

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Speaker 1: But any who, what is Trump going to do about TikTok?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think first we have to get the message

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Speaker 2: You look at how this app exists.

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Speaker 3: In other countries, for example, and we don't have girls

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Speaker 3: shimmying half naked in their bikinis, we don't have ridiculous

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Speaker 3: But it's math, it's reading, it's geography. There's actual, real

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Speaker 1: And what do you think happens in this trial? People

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Speaker 1: are going to see this before the verdict? Is what

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Speaker 1: happens and how does that play out? What does it do?

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're the lawyer here. Is this a real trial? What?

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Speaker 2: How are we so close.

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Speaker 3: To the end of this and we don't even know

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but anyone's guess is just this is a gut

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Speaker 1: This is a gut instant thing. Sinclair. Anyone's guess is

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Speaker 1: as good as anyone else is. There's only a couple

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Speaker 1: of options here, So you think it's going to be

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Speaker 3: I heard some rumors, I saw some hosts on Twitter

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Speaker 3: but I don't know. I have to say this whole time,

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Speaker 3: on to that we only need one person, one sane

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Speaker 3: I know that's so hard to believe right now in

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Speaker 3: and that's what I'm banking on. I think the rest

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Speaker 3: you're average person, can't pay attention to this trial and

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Speaker 3: the numerous other allegations that the former president is facing.

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Speaker 3: They have bills to worry about, they have food to

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Speaker 2: They have kids to feed, kids.

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Speaker 3: To take care of, they have just everyday problems, and

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Speaker 3: it's really hard to keep up with this trial especially,

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Speaker 3: and just all of the minutia that's going on with

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Speaker 3: And if they are paying attention, I think most Americans

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Speaker 3: and again won't change the way they vote.

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Speaker 1: We're going to come back into what Biden's plan is

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Speaker 1: in Political that says that there is panic among Democrats

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Speaker 1: at the prospect of Joe Biden actually being the guy.

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Speaker 1: So what happens is is he just the guy and

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Speaker 1: they try to pull it out, maybe they cheat, something

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Speaker 3: I think he's the guy. I think he's the guy.

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Speaker 3: I don't I know. The Michelle Obama theory hasband floated

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Speaker 2: I don't buy that. I don't buy that.

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Speaker 3: I think he's the guy, and I think he's the

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Speaker 2: I don't again, he's just the puppet. I don't know

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Speaker 3: We can do some digging and speculation on that, but

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Speaker 3: I think Biden's the guy, don't. I don't see them

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Speaker 1: And the debate I was going to ask about that one.

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Speaker 1: Next is the problem that we have. See, there's a

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Speaker 1: couple ways looking at this. Right, Biden is going to

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Speaker 1: just way too old. And I think that that's fair,

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Speaker 1: that's true. But there's also the expectations piece of this, right,

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the debate, they're going to say, see,

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Speaker 1: he's sharp as attack and he's just great. So does

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Speaker 1: it really matter? I mean, do you think if he

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Speaker 3: Well, we saw that book right in the State of Delusion,

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Speaker 2: And how sad is it that the bar is set

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Speaker 3: That because our elderly president didn't fall down ten times,

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Speaker 3: a thumbs up. It's like dating nowadays. Back I'm I'm

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Speaker 2: Like the bar sets so low. Girlfriends are all talking

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Speaker 2: and we're all like, oh my god. It's the same

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Speaker 3: The bar said that low that all he has to

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Speaker 3: ten gaffs and falling asleep, and we think that's considered

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Speaker 3: a good job. I'm curious as to how former president's

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Speaker 3: advisors are handling this. I am going to go with

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Speaker 3: the narrative here that they're advising him to just show

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Speaker 3: I think that's the best tactic.

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Speaker 1: I think that the idea that Joe Biden is going

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Speaker 1: Absolutely. We'll come back into this in a second. I

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Speaker 1: Last Election Plot dot com. That's Last Election Plot dot

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Speaker 2: And either way, Buck, there will be work that needs

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Speaker 1: So there we go, not leaving the country. All right, good, good,

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Speaker 1: Good to have you on the team fighting for America. Caylnson.

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Speaker 1: Clear everybody follow her on social media and Maga maga inc.

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Speaker 1: Is that the proper maga what's the maga inc?

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's pretty cool. All right, great to talk to you, Caleb.

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