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Speaker 1: message after we taped the episode that you're gonna hear

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Speaker 1: today with my faves and y'all's faves Chris and y'all

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Speaker 1: Nelly of the New BA round Table. But I really

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Speaker 1: on Friday, and since then, I have just found I

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Speaker 1: have learned so much more about the communities that have

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Speaker 1: been impacted by these devastating wildfires in LA And by

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Speaker 1: now you've probably heard of a community called Alta Dina.

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Speaker 1: Alta Dina is majority black homeowners. It's especially devastating that

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Speaker 1: these fires have obliterated Alta Dina because this was literally

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Speaker 1: a refuge for Black Americans who were redlined and forced

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Speaker 1: we so often are pushed out and put in less

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Speaker 1: sudden everyone wants to live there. This is generational wealth

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Speaker 1: in black communities that we can't afford to lose. In fact,

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Speaker 1: black home owners and Alsadena apparently were not even given

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Speaker 1: mortgages until the nineteen sixties. I'm reading this right now

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Speaker 1: from KCRW, which is the public radio station in La

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Speaker 1: So please support your local NPR stations. This is simply

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Speaker 1: generational wealth that is way too rare for black families

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Speaker 1: who have actually managed to build some generational wealth through

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Speaker 1: real estate, through their properties are at risk of losing

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Speaker 1: at all. They've already lost it physically, but we can

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Speaker 1: actually help them rebuild. We can help them make sure

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Speaker 1: that they're not pushed out of this neighborhood, make sure

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Speaker 1: that they don't lose the tender roots that have been

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Speaker 1: growing and flourishing ever since they moved in almost one

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Speaker 1: hundred years ago. One couple, Denise and Adonnis Jones, who

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Speaker 1: are longtime residents of Altadena, they lost their home when

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Speaker 1: they eat and fire. Denise's mother bought the Denise's mother

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Speaker 1: can't let this wildfire steal that from future generations to come.

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Speaker 1: So if you're like me, you're wondering how can you help,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually going to post a link to a couple

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Speaker 1: of vetted gofundmes that are crowdsourcing funds that are going

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Speaker 1: to be dispursed specifically to residents in the Altadena community.

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Speaker 1: So one of those funds is trying to raise five

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Speaker 1: million dollars to provide Altadena families with temporary housing, help

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Speaker 1: them pay for their bills, and aid in the rebuilding effort.

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Speaker 1: And this is sponsored by the Cochrane Firm and Ivy McNeil,

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Speaker 1: Wyatt Percell and DIGS, which are two black owned law

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Speaker 1: help this community. One hundred percent of the funds raised

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Speaker 1: through this initiative are going to be going to victims

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Speaker 1: impacted in the Pasadena and Altadena community. If you're listening

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Speaker 1: and you've been impacted by the wildfires and you would

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Speaker 1: like support from the Brand Ambition community, feel free to

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Speaker 1: DM me Brown Ambition Podcast on IG or you can

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Speaker 1: hit me up personally via email. Brand Ambition Podcast at

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Speaker 1: gmail dot com and a member of our team. We'll

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Speaker 1: get back to you. A S A P. Thank you, Hey,

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Speaker 1: ba fam, I am back. We are back with the

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Speaker 1: BA round Table. First of all, can we just do

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Speaker 1: a quick victory lap, a quick little like snap moment.

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Speaker 1: Y'all really love it. They love the panel, the round table,

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Speaker 1: they love We're folks for They love y'all, they love

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Speaker 1: Chris and y'a Nellie, and everyone has just been so

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Speaker 1: kind BA Faan, so thank you, thank you, thank you

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Speaker 1: all your dms, all your comments, the comments on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: y'all just I mean, you always have they always have

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Speaker 1: been incredible. But yeah, thank you to Chris and yan

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Speaker 1: Nelly too for being my guinea pigs anytime.

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Speaker 2: Girl. So much fun.

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Speaker 1: And I want to be clear because I am switching

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Speaker 1: up the round table, so don't get too used to

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Speaker 1: Chris and not yan Nelly. Okay, there's gonna be some

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Speaker 1: round Table, but it is. Yeah. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: so what should we dive into? First? Chris, I had

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Speaker 2: I am moving. So next week I would have been.

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Speaker 1: All, you're not there yet, okay, packing up.

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Speaker 3: So I'm today, I'm in the process of this is

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Speaker 3: And I'm excited, a little stressed, more I say, more

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Speaker 1: Two years it wasn't enough time for you to wait,

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Speaker 3: Like I'm not gonna put everything in boxes for two years.

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Speaker 3: I got to make sure I'm making the decision. But

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Speaker 3: I'm literally getting rid of almost everything, like almost all

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Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, I mean it makes sense.

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Speaker 5: Wait are you good, Chris out there with all those

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Speaker 2: It's rough. I'm thankfully farting away.

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Speaker 3: So I'm about thirty miles south of those fires, so

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Speaker 3: No, it's the thing is around here. It's it's just

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Speaker 1: Like you're putting people in your path, like you're you're

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Speaker 3: So oh no, hold up. I don't like when you

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Speaker 3: spined my words. I feel like the first episode for office,

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Speaker 3: I can't because you have to destroyed my campaign. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: Do you want to run your country?

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Speaker 1: That's that's like I mean, you and Mayor Karen Bass

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Speaker 1: right now gett getting toe up, toe up. But that's

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Speaker 1: just put this whole category of home insures, the biggest

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Speaker 1: in California, apparently reports are saying that they've dropped thirty

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Speaker 4: How does that? How is that legal? Is my question.

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Speaker 5: I've literally been paying you these premiums every single month

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because the thing is, like, that's what insurance companies

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Speaker 1: And it's like, you've even done the right thing. You've

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Speaker 5: The worst thing is a lot of people out here

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Speaker 5: I needed a separate policy. The thing that pisses me

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Speaker 5: then they're looking at me like girl for what they

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Speaker 5: right and we're right like now, to not trust insurance

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Speaker 5: providers is to me, it's like founded.

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Speaker 4: It's like, I'm that's valid.

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Speaker 5: I don't know even how to respond and what to

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Speaker 5: you know what you think about this?

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Speaker 4: What do you think about this?

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Speaker 5: And people are gonna start canceling additional insurance left and

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Speaker 5: right because the lack of trust. And I don't blame them.

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Speaker 1: Chris, do you have fire insurance?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: No, not here, So I'm render Nige Burners assurance. But

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Speaker 3: the risk of fire is so low where I live

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Speaker 2: Like a thing.

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Speaker 1: Sound biting that for the future.

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Speaker 1: Over here in your mouth with the dare for the universe,

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Speaker 1: just really really bit, I'm fine. I'm fining forty thousand

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Speaker 5: tech companies that are having these layoffs. And it's funny

436
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Speaker 5: you see AI increasing and tech kind of having a

437
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Speaker 5: little bit of a of an issue.

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Speaker 4: Those two things are interconnected.

439
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Speaker 5: Why is tech having so many layoffs because they're bringing

440
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Speaker 5: in AI to get rid of all those jobs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have my brown my brown boost and

442
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,359
Speaker 1: break my break. Really I'm breaking today, y'all. It's going

443
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,600
Speaker 1: to be about that, So you know, stay tuned for

444
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,600
Speaker 1: that I have a rant. I have a rant. I'm

445
00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:29,119
Speaker 1: calling out more people, more companies. All right, Bad Bunny

446
00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:31,440
Speaker 1: is number one in the country. I'm switching to pop culture.

447
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,439
Speaker 1: Bad Bunny number one in the country. I'm so happy.

448
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,680
Speaker 1: I love me some Bad Bunny. I'm not Puerto Rican,

449
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, can't claim it. But what is it about

450
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,720
Speaker 1: him that just sparks so much joy? It's just I

451
00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,400
Speaker 1: love to see.

452
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 4: Him through to his core.

453
00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 5: Like there's so few artists that have been authentic in

454
00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:52,760
Speaker 5: the way he has from day one, Like there is

455
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 5: not an ounce of fakeness in any of his bones.

456
00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 5: Like he's you get what you see, and he's just

457
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 5: so raw and real, and he brings it back every

458
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 5: time to the struggle. Like if you if you're a

459
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:06,680
Speaker 5: Spanish speaker and you listen to his music and you

460
00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 5: connect back, or even if you just translate the lyrics,

461
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 5: you'll see like how he's constantly bringing it back to

462
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,879
Speaker 5: the history of the struggles on the island of Puerto Rico,

463
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 5: and you know the people that had to fight to

464
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 5: get where the island has, where the successes on the

465
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 5: island are like celebrating that and just always rooted in

466
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,200
Speaker 5: that celebration of the Puerto Rican culture, which I feel

467
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,160
Speaker 5: like there's very few artists today that constantly do that

468
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,320
Speaker 5: in a way that is authentic and doesn't feel like

469
00:21:31,359 --> 00:21:34,479
Speaker 5: they're trying to play it up for the cloud or

470
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 5: you or for like social media buzz. He's doing it

471
00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600
Speaker 5: because that's genuinely like the type of music that calls

472
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Speaker 5: to him, and like he's just he's putting it out there.

473
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 5: Whether it hits or not, it just happens that it

474
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Speaker 5: always hits because it's so good.

475
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Speaker 1: So people don't even know what he's saying. They're just

476
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,120
Speaker 1: like bopping. Yes, that part.

477
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Speaker 3: Someone were talking about how like even they were getting

478
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Speaker 3: on him about like using slang and spaniship people didn't

479
00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 3: understand that. It was like I don't care. He's like,

480
00:21:58,200 --> 00:21:59,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do it anyways.

481
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Speaker 4: Yes, all that interview clip. They were like, what do

482
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Speaker 4: you think?

483
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:03,199
Speaker 5: Do you feel like you have to explain yourself and

484
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 5: he was like, I don't care.

485
00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: I was like, that's right. Somebody did have to explain

486
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 1: to me about pololo meant wait, which is like the

487
00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: dance that there's a song called yo yo no perero

488
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: yo perero sola pere perero than I don't know that.

489
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,080
Speaker 5: I don't know what that is.

490
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: Listen, I got that sontos at the end of my name,

491
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,320
Speaker 1: but it's hyphenated. Okay, I have not really earned I

492
00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 1: have not earned my keep.

493
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Speaker 2: All right, we're just tearing up the Spanish lang.

494
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Speaker 1: What is it?

495
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Speaker 4: Perero, pereo, pereo.

496
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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, you know we didn't talk about, well,

497
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 1: couple of things. One we didn't. I don't even know

498
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Speaker 1: if you guys want to or not want to approach this,

499
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: But the Justin Valdoni Blake Lively lawsuit, the I saw.

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Speaker 4: I saw that Chris has a huge.

501
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Speaker 1: Fan of Colleen Hoover. Oh yeah, I got that.

502
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,639
Speaker 3: Oh I feel for Colleen so much. I have no

503
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Speaker 3: idea who any of these people are you're talking about right now?

504
00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:03,640
Speaker 4: Oh I really could Which voice did you read? Because

505
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 4: I feel like I need to get on it.

506
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Speaker 1: It ends with that he is the president of the

507
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: Colleen Hoover Fan Club. Oh yeah, So you don't know

508
00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,879
Speaker 1: who Justin Baldoni or Blake Lively is.

509
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I've heard the name Blakely is what Mary Ryan

510
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 2: Reynolds that is?

511
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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, the eye rolls I have girl. Well,

512
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Speaker 1: the reason I bring it up is because the me

513
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: too of it all and now we're supposed to be

514
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 1: in this like era of when women are believed, you know,

515
00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:32,760
Speaker 1: when they call out harassment. But it has been I

516
00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,119
Speaker 1: don't know, it has been fascinating to me, people taking

517
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: sides and how it's been flipping. But yeah, for the

518
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Speaker 1: crises of the ba fam. Just to recap, Blake Lively

519
00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: starred in a film that came out this summer called

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Speaker 1: It Ends with Us, based on a very popular romance

521
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 1: novel by Colleen Hoover. So she's an author getting it okay?

522
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,879
Speaker 1: All right? Justin Baldoni, who was my you know, my

523
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 1: pretend boyfriend because he was so fine and he played

524
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Speaker 1: Jane the Virgin love interest. Did you watch Jamee Jane

525
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 1: the Virgin? I did, loved him, but he since Jane

526
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:10,919
Speaker 1: the Virgin has become this like his professional feminist, professional

527
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: male feminist.

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Speaker 4: His podcast, his brand, his whole image.

529
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, and I so when he came to direct

530
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Speaker 1: It Ends with Us, which is about domestic abuse. It's

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Speaker 1: about a woman Blake's character who gets in a relationship

532
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Speaker 1: with a man who has the most ridiculous name in

533
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Speaker 1: literature Rile and gets. Have y'all seen the y'all know

534
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Speaker 1: Christians in the movie.

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Speaker 5: I haven't read the book or seen the movie, so

536
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 5: I was reading about it and I was like, no,

537
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,120
Speaker 5: but I feel like I need to go and look

538
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Speaker 5: at the Actually, you just see the tension that was

539
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 5: between them in terms of the characters.

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Speaker 4: That they played.

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Speaker 1: Need is a strong word. Do you need to know?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I feel like I'm missing context. That's what

543
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,919
Speaker 5: I meant. I don't think I feel the need, but

544
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Speaker 5: I feel like the context that I'm missing is because

545
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Speaker 5: I didn't see it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean it's just so crazy because the

547
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,919
Speaker 1: film is she's in a relationship with Justin Baldoni's character.

548
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 1: He's also the director and the producer. So this is

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Speaker 1: where I'm like, Okay, if they were ever gonna be

550
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: like abuse or harassment, it's gonna happen on a set

551
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: when or in an office where your boss is also

552
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 1: your coworker and also like the chairman of the board.

553
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: That's basically what it's like to be producing, directing, and

554
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: starring in the film. And so Blake I think she

555
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,359
Speaker 1: is a producer on the film as well, but Justin's

556
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: Justin's production company is like behind the whole thing. So anyway,

557
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,159
Speaker 1: her character is in love with him and he is

558
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 1: physically abusive toward her and she's sort of like slowly

559
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: coming to grips with that. It's one of those things

560
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 1: where like is it abuse? Is it? It's fine? So anyway,

561
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 1: since there was all this you know, drama on the

562
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Speaker 1: social media and in streets, because during the premiere, Justin

563
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 1: was never seen with the cast, you know, so there

564
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: was like this you know, speculation, and I was told

565
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,080
Speaker 1: totally into it because I know that, I know Blake,

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Speaker 1: I know Justin. I'm on TikTok and I'm watching all

567
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,639
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for the hot takes and cut and

568
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: then it was very but it was still it felt

569
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,959
Speaker 1: like they were being very grown up about it, very mature.

570
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 1: No one was really calling anyone out, but you did

571
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: wonder like is there illegal, Like what what's happening in

572
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: the back, what's happening in the back of this? And

573
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve or Christmas Week, Blake's team issued not not

574
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Speaker 1: did they not only did they file this lawsuit against

575
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Speaker 1: Justin and everybody else on his side, but they did

576
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Speaker 1: it through the new York Times, like the New York Times,

577
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: did they? Chris is like, wow, story time, I'm learning.

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Speaker 5: That is big, I mean, and yeah, accused him straight

579
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:49,400
Speaker 5: up of sexual harassment on set, which you know, that's

580
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 5: not a light thing. That's not like you made me

581
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 5: uncomfortable in the workplace, that's straight up, that's ay like this,

582
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 5: this is what you did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Did you read any of the complaints? You know,

584
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Speaker 1: La or coz. Again, I don't know why, but sometimes

585
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: I get hyper fixated on something and I love to

586
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: read a legal complaint. They're fascinating. So I did read

587
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: it. It was like many many pages of accusations. And it

588
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: wasn't just that, you know. What creeped me out about

589
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: this whole thing made me feel gross about it was

590
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: a couple of things, one being that Blake did all

591
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Speaker 1: the things she did confront justin through the proper channels.

592
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: She tried to get you know, anyone involved that could like,

593
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 1: you know, take her concerns seriously. But the problem is, again,

594
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: he's her boss. The production company is usually who would

595
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: keep this kind of bad acting like have to like

596
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:45,200
Speaker 1: you know, hold people accountable for it. He's the producer,

597
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: you know, he's his company. It's the production company behind it.

598
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: She had tried to go to the distribution company, which

599
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,480
Speaker 1: is basically a distributor is like distributor is like what

600
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: Cumulus is for Brown Ambition right now, they put our

601
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: podcast out to all the different networks that people can hear, right,

602
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: So the I think the distributor for the film, I

603
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: don't want to I think it was Sony, but they

604
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: were like, well, we can't do anything. We're just in

605
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: charge of taking the movie and putting it in people's

606
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, streaming platforms in the theaters and stuff. And

607
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 1: she had they had taken a break for filming. She

608
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,160
Speaker 1: had said, I need you to not show me any

609
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: videos of your wife giving birth, which, like one of

610
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: his producers, yeah, yeah, juice. You guys got to read

611
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: this the whole complaints of the New York Times. So yeah,

612
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,320
Speaker 1: like his producing partner had apparently because Blake gives birth

613
00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: in the movie and had apparently shown her a video

614
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: of his wife having a vaginal birth that they and

615
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,840
Speaker 1: there's some obviously the romance, so there's sex in the movie,

616
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: and like Justin apparently would try to introduce new love

617
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: scenes without Blake's prior consent. She was a you know,

618
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: and as a new mom myself, a relatively new mom,

619
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 1: like she was she had just had a baby before,

620
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 1: she like three months before, and she was on this

621
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 1: set pumping in her dress and her trailer, and like

622
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: they would apparently just like barge in while she was

623
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: in various states of undress because she was pumping, and

624
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: just like boundaries were being crossed, and like too much

625
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: comments about how sexy she looked and outfits and it

626
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: wasn't just her, many other actors on the set apparently

627
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: you know, worth supporting her. And she came to them

628
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: with these complaints. They agreed to not continue with that,

629
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: but obviously the lawsuit. The other side of this is

630
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 1: like the PR firm that was behind this takedown of

631
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Blake that was actually taught. They've had these screenshots, these

632
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: text messages of the PR firm actively plotting to take

633
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: down like to assassinate her character in the press. So

634
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: and they and like there's a text from Justin being

635
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: like we need something like this, and it's like it's

636
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: a story about another actress being a diva on set

637
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: and he's telling his firm like this is what we

638
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: would need something like this can I order one of these?

639
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: One of these? Please? Please? Can I get one of these?

640
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,640
Speaker 1: Like hit pieces on Blake's and you know what came out?

641
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 4: What a jerk?

642
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 1: It was like Blake talking bad to a reporter came out,

643
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: you know that clip that resurface from Like.

644
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 3: I don't I knew nothing about all these other details,

645
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,400
Speaker 3: but I had seen a couple of those videos, even

646
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 3: though I barely even know who Blake Lively is, and

647
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 3: it was like, look at her this press conference and

648
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 3: how rude she was and dismissed him. And I was like, oh,

649
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 3: maybe she's not a good person, but I don't know

650
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 3: who she is. But I didn't know the PR was

651
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 3: getting me because I didn't even care. And I'm like, hmm,

652
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 3: maybe she's not.

653
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,720
Speaker 5: Getting That's how these things work. That's why these PR

654
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 5: campaigns are successful, and that's why people pay top dollar

655
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 5: to get people to spin up stories in the media.

656
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think because I have a background on journalism,

657
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 1: I'm always I like to think I'm a really good

658
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: consumer of news, Like I'm always kind of like tablespoon

659
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 1: of salt when I read stuff. You know, what's the

660
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: person's angle, what's their play in this? Why would they

661
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 1: want this story to come out? What's what's what's good about?

662
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Why are they being quoted here? Why are they giving

663
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: a comment? Stuff? But I it was just chilling to

664
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: see how like how sophisticated the social media campaign was

665
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: against Blake and how hard it is to trace it back,

666
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 1: and how quickly it came all like full circle. After

667
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: she filed this lawsuit, you were seeing again more you know,

668
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: positive headlines about Justin in social and like negative stuff

669
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 1: about Blake and Ryan Reynolds. You know that she in it.

670
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: Throw him in there? Why not? Because you know how

671
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: she needs him to like be the protector here and

672
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: how they are bullying Justin and all this as a

673
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: woman in the workplace, like it just I still feel

674
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: like we have so far to go. It's sad to me.

675
00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,840
Speaker 1: I want and for yeah, for Blake. Also, like when

676
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: she came out with the lawsuit, she had all of

677
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: her former co stars put out statements. It was almost

678
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 1: like she was saying, I really need everybody to come

679
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: back me on this because no one's gonna believe me

680
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: even though I'm Blake from like Lively, Yeah, you know.

681
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's so sad that she even had to

682
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 5: do that, but she knew, she knew what the odds

683
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 5: are and what she's up against. Unfortunately, and I mean

684
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,959
Speaker 5: good for her to think ahead, to prepare in that

685
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: way and know that she needs to come correct, because

686
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 5: the reality is, yeah, had she not done that, had

687
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 5: she not done that preparation, it might be a completely

688
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 5: different headline that we'd be reading now.

689
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,760
Speaker 3: She's still not such a long way to go, and

690
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 3: it shows she like on social media, when something takes off,

691
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,480
Speaker 3: whether or not it's true or not right once who

692
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: gets that first message out first kind of controls it

693
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 3: after that, and then other people start hopping on it,

694
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 3: stitching it together. They're doing their little comments, and then

695
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: it takes on the life that everyone's just going to

696
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: believe the story once it comes out, because how can

697
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 3: you pull something back like that once it's out there.

698
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 2: It's so hard to get a narrative back. Yep.

699
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: And the way that's what women don't say, shit.

700
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah.

701
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 5: The social manipulation is the crazy part of it, right,

702
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 5: And I mean you talked about this before, Mandy on

703
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 5: the show, but like the j Lo slander and how

704
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 5: they literally one day to the next, I woke up

705
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 5: and everybody hated j LO and I was like, what

706
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 5: when did that happen?

707
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 4: Like it' should but.

708
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 5: It but it happens so fast, especially the memes and

709
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 5: how quick I mean that's literally memes is the root

710
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 5: of the word mimetic right where it's like so quickly

711
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 5: it can educate.

712
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, medics listen.

713
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 5: The only reason I know is because my working works

714
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: in tech and he's like goes into like the history

715
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: of things. Sometimes I'm like I don't need all that,

716
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 5: I just need to know, but but it is interesting.

717
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 5: Actually we start to look into it, how you know,

718
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 5: so quickly it morphs and like so many people everywhere

719
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 5: just start to turn it into their own version of something.

720
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: And that's that's literally what's happening here. This like social

721
00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 5: manipulation campaign pretty much is what was going on.

722
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's scary. Anybody can do that to me. Anybody

723
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 4: can do that. I mean, you know.

724
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 1: Right now, the dude and the dude for all men,

725
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 1: for all humans with penises, can you please explain why

726
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 1: you're so terrible?

727
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 4: Oh how long do we have at life?

728
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: Or like, how can you be a better ally? How

729
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: can then be better allies to women? In the well?

730
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:21,360
Speaker 1: One of the things I will tell Chris, paying the

731
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 1: camera over to your little bookcase over there. Oh we

732
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: can't see it. Look at that, Look at that.

733
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: Bring them over.

734
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,879
Speaker 1: He got his he got cysts on the bookshelf, burn

735
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: UD's book.

736
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 5: I mean that right there, that's the first step to

737
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,760
Speaker 5: being a good ally.

738
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 4: Just make sure you put it in the frame next time.

739
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 2: Chris, like, we got to focus over here.

740
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 3: But I mean, to me, it's like I it doesn't

741
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,360
Speaker 3: It doesn't take a lot of thought for me to

742
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 3: be like, well, look what men and women were all people, right,

743
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 3: and these are my friends. These are people who are

744
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 3: very talented. To me, being someone who's talented, skilled, just

745
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,439
Speaker 3: a good person, it makes it easy to support someone.

746
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: And to me, it doesn't matter, you know, I see

747
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 3: no difference between men and women as far as what

748
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: any of us are capable, which sounds like a stupid

749
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 3: statement to make, because like, obviously, but there's so many

750
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,439
Speaker 3: people who don't see it that way. And I think

751
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,319
Speaker 3: for me, my mom, she was the higher earner in

752
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: my family. My dad did a lot of cleaning and cooking,

753
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 3: so it never seemed weird to me to have some

754
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 3: type of balance or to do tasks that would traditionally

755
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 3: be for a woman, because it's like, it's not it's

756
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: just keep a household going, and we're all working as

757
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 3: a team. And I think so many people don't get

758
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 3: those examples. But me and my brother were very fortunate

759
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: to see those examples and see a woman who was

760
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 3: running her office and who was, you know, making more

761
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: and more money every single year. And I think it's

762
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: just so many people like that and then like the

763
00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 3: empathy to even see that there's more than one way

764
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: to do things. But it's it's kind of I don't know.

765
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: I think more people just need to be I try

766
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 3: to be that for my friends. I try to be

767
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 3: an example of hey, it doesn't really matter, we all

768
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 3: can do this. I have no problem with I want

769
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,280
Speaker 3: to be more powerful than me and earning more money,

770
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: but it takes I think, more and more people. I

771
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 3: don't know, just seeing those examples of being willing to

772
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:03,879
Speaker 3: have in minds change from everything they saw in their

773
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: household or they learn from their friends.

774
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 5: Yep, it's that programming. They have to kind of be

775
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 5: un rewired, unprogrammed and rewire the way that they're thinking,

776
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 5: because it's it's true, it's kind of hard. I mean,

777
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,400
Speaker 5: when you when your brain just operates a certain way,

778
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 5: it's really difficult for you to up and choose to

779
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 5: think differently. That it sounds so simple. Oh I'm just

780
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,319
Speaker 5: gonna choose not to believe that anymore and to start

781
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 5: believing this. But yeah, simple as it sounds, it's one

782
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 5: of the most difficult things to do to change your

783
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,760
Speaker 5: mind and rewire the way that you think and ideas

784
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 5: that pop into your head. It's beyond your control in

785
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 5: a lot of ways, and you have to work, work,

786
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 5: work at it to re you know, to rewire that

787
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 5: it's it's really really hard.

788
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 4: And to your mama, to your mama.

789
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 1: I also feel like Chris, you know, one of the

790
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: things that makes such great to be your friend as

791
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: a woman. I feel like men who have women as

792
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: friends should be studied because I think it's it's an

793
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: extremely good sign of a well rounded human man. They

794
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 1: can have platonic girl friends who are women, because there's

795
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:16,000
Speaker 1: something that's broken in terms of like especially the younger men. Now.

796
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: I know we were getting there when we were in

797
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: our teens, but like now, for sure, women are just

798
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,479
Speaker 1: so hyper sexualized to young men that you're only seen

799
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 1: as objects, like you're only seen as something that they

800
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: should be attracted to or unattracted to, like you should

801
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: be looked at for your appearance and judge based on

802
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: it that they don't even hear what's coming out of

803
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,320
Speaker 1: your mouth, or it's like either you're too sexy or

804
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: too attractive, which can be you know, can be Like

805
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: then you get, you know, get blamed for the reason

806
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: why men are so lonely, and like God forbid you

807
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: turn down somebody. And then there's just like this, like

808
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: young men on the internet, who are you know?

809
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 4: Who are who?

810
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: What do you call? What is it? What's the thing?

811
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: Misogyny enough?

812
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: What?

813
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: Yeah? In cel, thank you, thank you for the word,

814
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: and these in cells where it's just it's toxic, you know,

815
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:08,399
Speaker 1: against women. But to have that ability as a man

816
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: and to raise men, it's so important. I have two

817
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: young boys and I'm raising and I just I want

818
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:17,800
Speaker 1: them to grow up seeing women as just well full rounded,

819
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: well rounded people, human beings who deserve to be listened

820
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: to and not put in this this this box of

821
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: desirability and you know, appearance, and yeah, it's it's scary,

822
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:33,399
Speaker 1: it really is.

823
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 5: If you're not attractive you're you know, you're attacked for

824
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 5: not putting enough effort, energy, time into into how you look.

825
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 5: And if you look really good, all you're accused of

826
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 5: using your looks to get ahead. And it's like, well,

827
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 5: where the hell where you know? Come on now, we

828
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 5: we just can't just be like we We can't we

829
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 5: literally can't just exist and be trying to pursue our

830
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 5: passions and and find things that we're interested in and

831
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,960
Speaker 5: be productive members of society. Like oh no, like you

832
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 5: have to fit into a certain box otherwise it's not acceptable.

833
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,760
Speaker 5: And that is so the most frustrating part of existing

834
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 5: as a woman, especially in twenty twenty five and beyond.

835
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 5: You would think that we would have gotten over these things,

836
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 5: but time and time again, some pro athlete makes a

837
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 5: speech at a graduation talking about women need to take

838
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 5: a step back and go back in the kitchen and

839
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 5: be in the home, and I want.

840
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 4: To slap the freaking computer screen.

841
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 5: I'm like, wait, what so I mean you just can't

842
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 5: get it right, You just can't get right. We just

843
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 5: have to follow our intuition, do what brings us joy

844
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 5: and makes us feel fulfilled, because at the end of

845
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,240
Speaker 5: the day, everybody is going to have something to say

846
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 5: about the way that you exist when.

847
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 4: You're a woman.

848
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 5: So you sort of got to pave your own path

849
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 5: and do your own thing, man.

850
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: And you know, people need to be willing to. I

851
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,319
Speaker 3: think men need to be willing to. I guess view

852
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 3: a different perspective and understand that there are different experiences

853
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:54,839
Speaker 3: very similar, like with race, right, Like people, if you're

854
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 3: on one in one group, you don't necessarily recognize the

855
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 3: struggles or the experience of another group. With men, they

856
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 3: often don't. They don't even know that there are women

857
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: experience a whole different existence of life than they are

858
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,839
Speaker 3: because you especially my appearance. You know, guys can look

859
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 3: like a leftover sandwich and be rent at the company

860
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 3: and nobody even cares, nobody even looking at them. They'd

861
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 3: be dressed horribly, the ugly ees personal birsity in your

862
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 3: life and nobody even thinks twice about it. And so

863
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 3: it's like one of those things where you know, I'm

864
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 3: trying to win, I'm trying to help you out, and

865
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 3: you just made like three more in cels right now, but.

866
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 4: You're adding to their group. Come on, Manny, And.

867
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm sorry.

868
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know you know, you're not sorry, not

869
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 2: even a little bit.

870
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 1: Just feels right.

871
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: I just lay, I just threw it out there for you,

872
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 3: like I'm taking this. There's no way I'm not got

873
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 3: to look at you.

874
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 1: Got a black T shirt on and the same every

875
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: you don't do anything? Did you put did you powder

876
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: your head? Like tip like a mean Ellie over here?

877
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: Face face girl? I hate saying face beats not my

878
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: favorite thing I make in.

879
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 3: Violent you know, hey, I've shaved my head. I combed

880
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,439
Speaker 3: out and put some stuff on my beer. I didn't

881
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: just roll out of bed.

882
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: Come on.

883
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: I put a little bit of effort, clearly not as

884
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,240
Speaker 3: much effort as you put, but I put a little

885
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 3: bit of effort.

886
00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:19,719
Speaker 1: Well, Chris, let's just end on the high note of

887
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: like your You are a ally in a lot of ways,

888
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: and I hope I love that, you know. Having you

889
00:41:27,120 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: at the round table is just like, let's put an

890
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: example of a man who you're listening to two women

891
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,719
Speaker 1: and you're fine letting us just jibber jabber, you know,

892
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: because you were like you and you're listening like you

893
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: care what we have to say, and sad, very sadly,

894
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: that's not always the case, especially in personal finance.

895
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: I still listen to you, though you have sold me.

896
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, I listen to that too, you.

897
00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:51,880
Speaker 1: Know, but your hum you have humility. You know that

898
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: you're not perfect in that. I you know, I may

899
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: have something like a good critique of you, you know,

900
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: like it may be valuable, and I think that that's great.

901
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Sold me back. It's totally fine. I don't make it

902
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 1: as easy as another woman in the media right now

903
00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,280
Speaker 1: getting a lot of have y'all heard about Twitch's wife?

904
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 5: Yes, Oh my goodness, tri I'm learning so right now.

905
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,479
Speaker 1: Because you have subscription to Hollywood Reporters one of these.

906
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I just find out on social media, that's

907
00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 5: the thing, or my niece will send it to me, like, girl,

908
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 5: did you see this?

909
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 4: And I'm like, oh, I don't have time. Let me

910
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 4: just quickly read the highlight.

911
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: But that is messed up because not only is she

912
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 5: outing his stuff from his diary, which come on, that

913
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 5: is never okay.

914
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:44,400
Speaker 1: But he passed away, right, Yes, suicide died by suicide

915
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: two three years ago.

916
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe two years ago.

917
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,480
Speaker 5: But she moved on married to someone else then and

918
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 5: made it impossible for his own family to access funds

919
00:42:56,760 --> 00:42:58,359
Speaker 5: and to attend his you know, they had to sign

920
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 5: an NDA just to attend wake.

921
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 4: I mean, she put his family through.

922
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,799
Speaker 5: A lot because when he died, he left her in

923
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 5: charge of obviously the kids and his family and like

924
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 5: their state and stuff. So there was some issues with

925
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 5: that where his family members felt some type of way,

926
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 5: as they should. And then secondly, she goes ahead and

927
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 5: takes his diary and publishes a tell all book about

928
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 5: things that were what was really going on that he

929
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 5: wrote in his diary, which to me is like the

930
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 5: biggest red flag of all red flags that a traditional

931
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 5: book publishing company would agree to do that, Like, y'all

932
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 5: are trifling. She's trifling, but they're trifling for giving her

933
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 5: a platform to do that, because that is messed up.

934
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent as convinced that, like she's

935
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:44,359
Speaker 1: the enemy here. I've read the headlines. I don't know.

936
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:48,280
Speaker 1: I feel like as a wife, as a partner there,

937
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, we twitch, you know, being a human like

938
00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: Steven his real name, he may have had, he may

939
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: genuinely have not wanted his family to know certain things

940
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: or not trusted them with that information. So I find

941
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: myself wanting to give her a little bit of the

942
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: benefit of the doubt, just that like she also has

943
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: his children, like she has two kids by him.

944
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 4: I think she does.

945
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: And as a mom, I want, I want to believe

946
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:18,200
Speaker 1: that she's doing it for the right reasons. But his

947
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: family being in the media and like attacking her, it

948
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 1: almost makes me think, I maybe there was a reason

949
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: that she had them sign the NDAs because of how

950
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,320
Speaker 1: quickly you know they would run to the to media

951
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 1: with that. But it makes me nervous about or just

952
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: makes me question our own privacy and you know, after

953
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 1: we're pass, like after we pass, for someone to go

954
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: and and take private documents, you know, private thoughts, and

955
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: to publish them that on, like just the black and

956
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,879
Speaker 1: white of it, like no pun intended because they are

957
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: a biracial couple, but right, it's it gives.

958
00:44:58,040 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: Me the ick.

959
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 4: You're absolutely right.

960
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 5: I didn't even consider that part because obviously I don't

961
00:45:04,120 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 5: think like a mom because I'm not a mom. But

962
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 5: what she's doing maybe putting her kids first and all that,

963
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 5: But the diary becoming a published book, there is nothing.

964
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: Nothing being published or like excerpts from the diary that

965
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 1: are being used for the book and to me, I

966
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200
Speaker 1: just feel like there's nothing anyone can say to me

967
00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 1: to justify that.

968
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 4: Like if she I mean.

969
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 5: For her own self, to for herself to go and

970
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 5: like share stuff with the family or even with the

971
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 5: larger team, or like an intimate thing where she says, hey,

972
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 5: I had this discovery that might shed light on what

973
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 5: we didn't know about.

974
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 4: Twitch fine, But to go and.

975
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 5: Publish a book to make yourself some money is to me,

976
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 5: it's just like, I don't know, that's inexcusable behavior on

977
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 5: the on the book side, how.

978
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 2: How bad were the things that made it into the book?

979
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 5: You know, Well it's on pre order right now, so

980
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 5: we don't know you.

981
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 1: How of course it is pre order. Links are free.

982
00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: Everyone go get this. Foore all talking about.

983
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 4: It all right there, Well, it adds to it.

984
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: I think some of the allegations there are some of

985
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: the you know, discoveries, is that he that she had

986
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 1: found some types of drugs in his possession that she

987
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: wasn't aware of, and that that he talked about potentially

988
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: being abused at a younger age. And listen, like when

989
00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: a man takes his own life and his own wife

990
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: doesn't understand why. Of course, there's going to be secrets there. Yeah,

991
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: you know, an inner life that as a as a

992
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 1: partner myself, I can't imagine how traumatic it must be

993
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 1: to realize that there was all this happening with a

994
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: partner and I didn't really know my own you know,

995
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 1: husband and partner.

996
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 5: Your own life partner, right, this person he's supposed to

997
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 5: be done life with and you have no idea what's

998
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 5: going on beyond the surface.

999
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 4: It's scary, for.

1000
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 1: Sure, But she's also got a family and a career,

1001
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: and like, if you want your life to mean something,

1002
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: his life to mean something. Maybe unpacking it is her

1003
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: way of saying, like, well, here's how you maybe cannot

1004
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: find yourself in a situation like this. Notice some signs

1005
00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,040
Speaker 1: that maybe I missed. I'm hoping for her sake that

1006
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: that's what she's The angle she's taking is like trying

1007
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: to help other families. But the celebrity memoir it's.

1008
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,160
Speaker 3: Always I'm trying to think, would I be mad if

1009
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 3: someone like one no one's buying a book based off

1010
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 3: of my my inner thoughts and my journal or something

1011
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:15,719
Speaker 3: like that.

1012
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 2: But if a family could make money off of that.

1013
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 5: There, I mean, Chris, what's in the diary is what

1014
00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 5: It depends what.

1015
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: You want to play. What would Chris? What would what

1016
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: would Chris's diary have?

1017
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 2: Today?

1018
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: My microphone did not work the BA round table.

1019
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 3: Mandy intelded me yet again, tore me down in front

1020
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 3: of millions of people, and it was just like, why

1021
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 3: why does why does Mandy hate me?

1022
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 2: That's that's my that's my next day. Just don't put

1023
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:47,080
Speaker 2: in the other day.

1024
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 4: Why so hard to be a good ally to her?

1025
00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 4: And she is just verbally abusive time and time again.

1026
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:01,280
Speaker 4: I don't know how much more, But don't.

1027
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 2: Feel bad for you continue who me? Oh oh? I

1028
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 2: was like, what are you saying?

1029
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 3: Well after you know, you just derailed me, But you know,

1030
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 3: I was like, would I care if my if my

1031
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 3: family published a journal I had? And I'm like, I

1032
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 3: don't think. I well, I mean I wouldn't know, so

1033
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 3: I'm gone.

1034
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: So do you believe in heaven? I guess if you're

1035
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: up there watching the you know, your life unfold.

1036
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 2: That's true family. I don't know if I can I

1037
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 2: just change the channelkay watching my Elsa's life.

1038
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 5: I mean, if you're in heaven, you probably can, but

1039
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 5: you still have to deal with the knowing, because once

1040
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:34,719
Speaker 5: you know they're doing that, you can't unkno it.

1041
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 4: And that's hard.

1042
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 5: That's hard because now you've got to deal with the

1043
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 5: fact that this is their character, this is who they are,

1044
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 5: and you didn't think that they were these people that

1045
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 5: would do this to you, and now you can't even

1046
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:45,879
Speaker 5: talk to them about it.

1047
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: Oh, Harry Potter learning about Dumbledore not being that part,

1048
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: not being his hero. I mean, we have to give

1049
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: people space to be, to have these layers, these shadows

1050
00:48:56,840 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: like addiction, abuse, we're all carrying around something are inner selves,

1051
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:04,440
Speaker 1: just to like not you know, just to be like

1052
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,320
Speaker 1: to hold space for that. Like of course, of course

1053
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: there's you know, these parts of us that we're not

1054
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: always bringing to the surface, and we have these deep

1055
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:16,400
Speaker 1: inner lives and everything. I don't know. I mean, like

1056
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:18,920
Speaker 1: if I were to pass and then someone would, oh

1057
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: my day, someone would take my journal because I'd be writing.

1058
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes you have terrible thoughts and they're just thoughts, you know,

1059
00:49:27,040 --> 00:49:29,040
Speaker 1: and you put them down on paper and it's just

1060
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,359
Speaker 1: thoughts and they don't mean anything about you. But then

1061
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: those thoughts get into the wrong hands and all of

1062
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: a sudden, it's like, oh, she said this, she's this

1063
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,720
Speaker 1: you know, we never knew blah blah blah. But listen,

1064
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: in therapy, a lot of things are said. In journaling,

1065
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: a lot of things are said that you should feel

1066
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: safe saying, and you don't to have that potentially share

1067
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: with the world out of context, out of your control.

1068
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,760
Speaker 1: That is No, it's terrible.

1069
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 5: See, I don't write anything down. I am the only

1070
00:49:57,960 --> 00:49:59,839
Speaker 5: thing you're gonna find me writing is my to do list.

1071
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 5: So y'all not gonna get me. Oh, y'all are not

1072
00:50:02,360 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 5: gonna get me because I don't do the diaries, I

1073
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 5: don't do the journals, I don't.

1074
00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 4: Do the Nope.

1075
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,239
Speaker 5: If it's if it's bothering me, I'm gonna go to

1076
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 5: therapy and say it. But I'm looking at a clipboard.

1077
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: She better not be writing this down.

1078
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 4: Because this room right right, Like, let me just make.

1079
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:23,360
Speaker 5: Sure because no, I understand it makes you feel so

1080
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:26,120
Speaker 5: much better. But I just never have gotten into that

1081
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 5: practice of like sitting down to write a journal. I'll

1082
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,200
Speaker 5: just meditate, or I'll take a nap, or I'll go

1083
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 5: talk to someone on the phone about it. But yeah,

1084
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:37,120
Speaker 5: I just I'm glad I'm not leaving on a paper.

1085
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,600
Speaker 1: Book, right here baby full of dark thoughts. I mean

1086
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: it's a part of my therapy. I mean it's a

1087
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: part of my mental health journey. I've been such a

1088
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,879
Speaker 1: huge mental health journey this year, and like writing down

1089
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: the worst things that come to my mind is a

1090
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: way of dealing, you know, oh for.

1091
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 5: Sure, and then it's out, it's out of your head,

1092
00:50:52,200 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 5: it's on the papers.

1093
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: I gotta put it on my whale though, This is

1094
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: why you gotta have a whale and testament, Like, no

1095
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: one is allowed for my private diary part, you know,

1096
00:50:59,120 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: to be put out there.

1097
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,359
Speaker 3: I know, but then it's safe and want to get

1098
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 3: one person a combination, right, But either.

1099
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,840
Speaker 5: It's crazy that you now you think of, oh, let

1100
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:10,400
Speaker 5: me put this in my will, but like do you

1101
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 5: think Twitch was thinking, let me make sure my diary

1102
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,719
Speaker 5: and know now that this happened, people are going to

1103
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 5: be thinking like that. But isn't that a shame that

1104
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 5: we have to see that happen to him to then think, oh,

1105
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 5: we have to cover ourselves and make sure we include

1106
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 5: our diary and our will, Like, come on, this is

1107
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: the type of people that we dealing with. Like to me,

1108
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,959
Speaker 5: that's why I say she's strifling because I just can't

1109
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,560
Speaker 5: understand what would bring her. I mean, I guess dollar science,

1110
00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 5: but like how much money would have to bring you

1111
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 5: to do that to him? You know, It's just I

1112
00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: can't especially if she claims that, you know, they were

1113
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 5: in a good place and it's not like she's being

1114
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 5: vengeful that he didn't, you know, do anything to her,

1115
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,799
Speaker 5: that maybe he was an unfaithful to her or something,

1116
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 5: then maybe then there's some more context. I would understand

1117
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:48,719
Speaker 5: why she's trying to play him, But I just feel

1118
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,359
Speaker 5: like I don't understand really what her motivation is, if

1119
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 5: it's anything just beyond money here, because that's just so

1120
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:55,720
Speaker 5: so terrible.

1121
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, guess what do us have to get the buck?

1122
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 4: No?

1123
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: No, no, no. Memoirs that I have pre ordered Brandy Norwood's

1124
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 1: Brandy is coming out with a memoir, Can't Wait, and Tina.

1125
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 5: Noles Okay, Tina Noles, Tina, that was gonna be good.

1126
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: Do you read memoirs, you guys?

1127
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:17,560
Speaker 2: Occasionally?

1128
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:18,279
Speaker 1: I don't.

1129
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 5: I don't know if I do memoirs as much as

1130
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 5: I do like biographies. I've done a couple of autobiographies,

1131
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 5: but I feel like, yeah, I kind of I don't know.

1132
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 5: I like the biography where somebody else has done a

1133
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 5: ton of research on this person rather than recently.

1134
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:32,720
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah.

1135
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 5: Although I did read yours memoir and it was it

1136
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 5: was read. I did the audiobook which was it was

1137
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,839
Speaker 5: read by and I really enjoyed that. And I mean

1138
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 5: the Light we Carry right now Michelle Obama, which is

1139
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,240
Speaker 5: so good so far she reads, Yeah, yeah, yes.

1140
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: So they have a good voice. I love an audiobook.

1141
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

1142
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,839
Speaker 5: So there's certain memoirs that will get me, but it's

1143
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 5: not something that I'm consistently, you know, seeking when I

1144
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 5: go to pick my next book.

1145
00:52:57,040 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: What do you read, Chris?

1146
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 3: I love reading some things, but I will read a

1147
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,640
Speaker 3: biography every now and then only when I sit time

1148
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:06,440
Speaker 3: my mind. Obviously I read the autobiography of Malcolm X,

1149
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 3: but that's a while ago.

1150
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,480
Speaker 2: Fiction. Do you like, Oh, give me some sci fi,

1151
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 2: give me some mystery. Hit me with a thriller.

1152
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:14,160
Speaker 1: Did you read Silo?

1153
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 2: So I didn't.

1154
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 3: I started watching the show I was. I'm a big

1155
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 3: fan of the show. I'm not gonna lie, but I

1156
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 3: might read the book. Like if they made a show,

1157
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 3: the book was probably really good, so and the.

1158
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,319
Speaker 4: Book's always better. The book is always better.

1159
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 5: I'm always mad at myself when I watched something and

1160
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:28,359
Speaker 5: then either I usually didn't know it was a book

1161
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 5: first or I find out later and I'm like, dang,

1162
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 5: I should have read because the book.

1163
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 4: You just never watched something and it does the book justice,

1164
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 4: like never never.

1165
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 3: It's never, you know, someone told me the way to

1166
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 3: do it, Like instead of reading the book and then

1167
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 3: watching the movie because you're gonna be disappointed because they

1168
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,400
Speaker 3: left a bunch of stuff out, watched the movie and

1169
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 3: then you read the book and it's like you're getting

1170
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 3: extra bonus content because you get all the other stuff,

1171
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 3: the side stories they had to take out, so it's like, yeah,

1172
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 3: spoiled a little bit, but you get like if you

1173
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 3: love the movie, the book will be like the movie and.

1174
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,479
Speaker 1: Some when it gets a whole series like Drones way

1175
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:57,200
Speaker 1: better than books.

1176
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, Game of Thrones was really good. I feel

1177
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,800
Speaker 4: like I can't do well. I don't know. Do you

1178
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 4: feel like the Harry Potter movies were better than the books? No, movies.

1179
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:09,360
Speaker 1: I really just liked the movies.

1180
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I didn't want to say because I

1181
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 5: don't know if he was a movie fangirl, but I

1182
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:14,720
Speaker 5: know movies was terrible.

1183
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 4: The books were so rich and so good.

1184
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 5: They cut out every one of my favorite little detailed

1185
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 5: parts out of the book, not in any of the movies.

1186
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 4: I was always so mad.

1187
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: Not not a fan. Fan of the kids, not a

1188
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,319
Speaker 1: fan of the movies. All right, we gotta take a break,

1189
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: y'all and come right back with brown boost, Brown brew

1190
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:36,280
Speaker 1: break the be a round table, all right, y'all, Brown Boost,

1191
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 1: Brown break time. So brown boost, just to remind you, guys,

1192
00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,440
Speaker 1: something that we're excited about, we really like. We want

1193
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: to tell people on put them on Brown Break. Did

1194
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: I mess that up? Brown Boost something good? Brown break

1195
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 1: is something that we're sick of. We could do with

1196
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: less of it. I'll go first as time, since last

1197
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 1: time I tried to sneak out without doing one at all.

1198
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 1: And I don't want you guys to lose faith in me,

1199
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: lose trust, all right, So I'm gonna do a brown break.

1200
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 1: I said it was related to like AI. So I

1201
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,719
Speaker 1: am a fan of you know, new services, new kind

1202
00:55:04,760 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: of like disruptors and different industries. My website is run

1203
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: by Squarespace, also a sponsor of the show. I get

1204
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: my glasses from Warby Parker who really blew up the

1205
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: eye industry, eyeglass industry about ten years ago. However, I

1206
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,919
Speaker 1: do see we're recording right now on Riverside right, which

1207
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: is a platform that lots of even jan Ellie your podcast.

1208
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: You guys use Riverside at NPR. Yeah, and it's an

1209
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 1: incredible platform, lots of AI bells and whistles, very easy

1210
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: to edit, all of that Squarespace AI capabilities. I can

1211
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: build my website. I get in there myself and adjust things.

1212
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: I built a sales page last week, amazing. I love

1213
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: my warbies. However, I'm about damn sick of AI customer support.

1214
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: I am sick of having to email questions. Like I

1215
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: had a glitch with my website this week where people

1216
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: were not able to buy the thing that I'm selling

1217
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,040
Speaker 1: as a solo preneur. Kind of not kind of I

1218
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: can't afford that, you know, need my sales to be

1219
00:56:02,560 --> 00:56:05,960
Speaker 1: going through and to have to and it's like, you know,

1220
00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: eleven thirty at night when I'm realizing this, I'm trying

1221
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,320
Speaker 1: to chat with somebody. No one's available, send us an email.

1222
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,239
Speaker 1: I send the email, takes you know, hours to hear back,

1223
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: and when I do, it's like clearly a canned response,

1224
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:21,800
Speaker 1: and then it's like we'll be passing this up the

1225
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: chain to someone else, and then for that response to

1226
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: take more than twenty four hours to get to me,

1227
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: Like that's a lot thirty six hours, you know. I

1228
00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: fixed the glitch myself, you know, I had to find

1229
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: a work around, but I'm just I'm over it. Riverside

1230
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,480
Speaker 1: effed up some stuff last earlier this week, again, I

1231
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,759
Speaker 1: couldn't get a human, had to email them. I know,

1232
00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:48,040
Speaker 1: still haven't gotten a response. Warby my poor mama. I

1233
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 1: turned my mom onto Warby Parker and like she's like,

1234
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 1: I can't even call the store. They messed up my prescription.

1235
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: She can't call the store that she got them from.

1236
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:56,719
Speaker 1: It was like an automated system or something like that.

1237
00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,080
Speaker 1: So ugh, I'm over it. Like, just give me a

1238
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 1: freaking human, give me, you know, I don't care. I

1239
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: just don't care. I want to talk to someone to

1240
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: get this issue revolved asap. And I worry that, like

1241
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: that's what we're losing as we shift to this more

1242
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: like AI bot driven technology and people. And they're like

1243
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: they're investing so much in this part of the business,

1244
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: but not the customer service part which matters. So now

1245
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, as a consumer, I'm looking really good for

1246
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: I'm looking very carefully at like customer service. What when

1247
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: this breaks, who is going to answer my calls? You know?

1248
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: Is anyone going to answer my calls? And that's going

1249
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: to be a big decisive factor for me moving forward

1250
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: as a business owner. O or what tools I use

1251
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: and don't use?

1252
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, because they're shifting AI because it can, Yeah,

1253
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:44,200
Speaker 3: it can give you a canned response based off of

1254
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 3: some of the words it's all you put in your message,

1255
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: But it's still not at the level of actually doing

1256
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: any type of trouble shooting or analyzing what you're asking

1257
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 3: and finding a solution for you.

1258
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: I guess not doing that at all. And to me.

1259
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: It's like they're rolling it out because it saves them

1260
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 3: money because they don't want to pay somebody to be.

1261
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 4: There to do it.

1262
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, it's not it's not ready, but

1263
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,920
Speaker 3: every company is like, hey, this is what we're all doing.

1264
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,760
Speaker 3: We're all in on having a little bot come over

1265
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 3: here and tell you we'll email you later, which could

1266
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 3: have just been a message they gave me automatically.

1267
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, which they tell to everybody, even though if they

1268
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 5: don't call you back. I've been I've been noticing some

1269
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,920
Speaker 5: of these that will, like, if I call a customer

1270
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:19,120
Speaker 5: service line, they'll be like, you're gonna be in the

1271
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 5: queue for twenty minutes, but dial forward if you want

1272
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 5: us to call you back when it's your love that

1273
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 5: and I love that, And I got to say, I

1274
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,800
Speaker 5: have never had an experience where I pressed for waited

1275
00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 5: for my call and didn't get a call back. I

1276
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 5: always do get a call back, and so I really

1277
00:58:34,200 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 5: do appreciate that, which is a really nice use of

1278
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 5: AI to like put me in a queue and send

1279
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 5: me to the customer service rep when it's my turn,

1280
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:42,480
Speaker 5: give them my number, have to call me.

1281
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 4: I like that.

1282
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 5: But to not have the ability to talk to someone

1283
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 5: at all, it, Yes, that is extremely frustrating if that's

1284
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 5: what you're trying to do.

1285
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 3: That's tech right now, and so many tech companies just

1286
00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 3: like no at Google, could you even could you even

1287
00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 3: call Google? I don't think there's a way to end

1288
00:58:59,120 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 3: even get a hold of a person there.

1289
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 5: No, And now that's the direction Facebook and meta is

1290
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 5: heading to, Like you can't talk to somebody Instagram, meta face,

1291
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 5: but all of us, you can't talk to faq page.

1292
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 4: Does this answer your question exactly?

1293
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: And answers always No, it didn't.

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Speaker 1: My rage is too my rage level is too high.

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Speaker 1: I can and I can't read this text right now,

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Speaker 1: like because of your sorry, because of your content said,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't gonna curse as much because of your content

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Speaker 1: social media. Our attention span is so now that we

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Speaker 1: can't even like we don't have the attention span to

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Speaker 1: read these FAQ's. But that's the answer we're getting, Like,

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Speaker 1: read this long blog post and figure it out. By

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna lose all my sponsors for this episode. Airs.

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Speaker 4: It was you, girl, it was you. It wasn't enough.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm not about to spa I'm not about to

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Speaker 1: tell the rosy part of like working with products and services,

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Speaker 1: there's there's always listen there every company is gonna like

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Speaker 1: screw up and do some great things, like you know,

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Speaker 1: two things gonna be true. It's the dialectic, you know.

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Speaker 1: All right, yep, all.

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Speaker 5: Start agree, Yeah you go next.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to do a brown boost.

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Speaker 5: So y'all know a lot of the work that I

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Speaker 5: do around financial literacy education. First of all, if you're

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01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 5: trying to change laws, it's going to take forever, and

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Speaker 5: a day like this is not the kind of thing

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01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,640
Speaker 5: you could just do overnight. And so our team last

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01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 5: year we had a year where we only got one

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Speaker 5: state to pass a law, which was California. The year

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Speaker 5: before that we got eight states. So it sounds bad, like,

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Speaker 5: oh no, we went from one year where eight states

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Speaker 5: signed a law to require financial literacy at the high

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Speaker 5: school until one only one the year where one state,

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Speaker 5: but the state of California is so big that more

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Speaker 5: students are getting access to financial literacy because of that

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Speaker 5: one state law than the all eight of the previous

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Speaker 5: year states combined.

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Speaker 4: So like, the reach is great, but my boost is

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01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 4: not that.

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Speaker 5: My boost is that this year for twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 5: the session just started in January. Legislative sessions start in January.

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01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 5: New members are being sworn in, and we have officially

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Speaker 5: confirmed with lawmakers in three states that they are serious

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Speaker 5: about championing bills. So I'm about to tell y'all, if

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Speaker 5: you live in this state and you have any little

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01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:13,480
Speaker 5: ounce of passion to help us pass a law to

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Speaker 5: require financial literacy for every high school student.

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Speaker 4: In the state.

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Speaker 5: The states are New Jersey, Colorado, and Texas. So it's official.

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Speaker 5: We are working on trying to get legislation. The lawmakers

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01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 5: are drafting bills right now to try to get us

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Speaker 5: to get these bills signed by may or June of

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Speaker 5: this year hopefully and then to be like implemented before

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Speaker 5: like in the coming two to three years, because it

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Speaker 5: does take some time to roll it out. You got

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Speaker 5: to train all the teachers, you got to decide which curriculum,

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01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 5: the districts have to make certain decisions, so it's not

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Speaker 5: going to be like starting August first, but still like

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Speaker 5: getting these laws change is a big deal.

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Speaker 4: It's a big effort.

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Speaker 5: And so to get three states right out the gate

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Speaker 5: in January that's saying that they're serious and committed is

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01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 5: like a big deal. So that's that is my boost

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01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 5: this whole year. But specifically stuff that I found out

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Speaker 5: this week.

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Speaker 1: So that's next gen personal finance. Is that the organization

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Speaker 1: that you work the nonprofit.

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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, So actually that's the organization that provides the

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Speaker 5: free curriculum.

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Speaker 4: If there's any school out.

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Speaker 5: There that does not have lesson plans and homework and

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Speaker 5: games and assessments and everything, you can just go to

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Speaker 5: MGPF dot organ get it for free because we don't

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Speaker 5: want schools to say, oh well, we can't teach it

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Speaker 5: because we don't got the budget.

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Speaker 4: It's free. But we have a.

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Speaker 5: Different affiliated organization called MGPF Mission twenty thirty Fund, and

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Speaker 5: that's the organization that actually works with public policy experts

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Speaker 5: to get laws changed.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: So we're doing things Colorado, Texas and New Jersey.

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Speaker 4: Hit me up, power at me, so me.

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Speaker 2: To me over here.

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Speaker 1: We're looking at you, crisy.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, so why you know my brown boosts.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna do a boost again.

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Speaker 3: I think I did then one last time, and I'm

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Speaker 3: basically just all I'm doing now is doing some work

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Speaker 3: and then packing stuff up.

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Speaker 2: And I gotta say, I don't think. I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I hope.

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Speaker 3: I'm not repeating this, but getting rid of stuff feels good.

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Speaker 3: I've been getting rid of so many things. And I've

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Speaker 3: always been like a fan of minimalism. I'm not a minimalist.

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Speaker 3: I got I had too much of to be a minimalist.

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Speaker 3: But I don't like having a lot of stuff. I

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01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 3: don't like clother and I like just being like real

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Speaker 3: streamlined and I think there's not like a move to

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Speaker 3: make you realize how much stuff you have that you

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Speaker 3: didn't even care about. And he's been holding on to it,

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Speaker 3: accumulating it for some weird reason. And I've just been

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Speaker 3: going to friend's house, going to family. Here, you take this.

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Speaker 3: I'm sending pictures and stuff to people. Hey, you want this, like,

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Speaker 3: don't get me any money, just take it. Yep you

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01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 3: need you need something? Yeah, I got ad air. Want

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Speaker 3: to mail it to you?

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, I mean the shipping costs might just costs

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Speaker 5: to get one off.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing like getting rid of stuff. And I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to like get down as low as i can to

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Speaker 3: the least amount of things.

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Speaker 1: I'm so jealous.

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Speaker 2: And I thought right, I.

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Speaker 3: Thought it would feel a little more maybe sad or

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Speaker 3: like weird to get rid of stuff.

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Speaker 2: But it's all free. I feel. I feel very light.

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Speaker 1: When you have your dude, you probably have like boxes

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Speaker 1: of cables and cords that you don't know what remote controls.

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Speaker 2: I had to get rid of that stuff. I had

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Speaker 2: to give it.

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Speaker 1: You probably have like old Apple packages you save in

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Speaker 1: the box for god knows what reason.

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Speaker 4: Why do you say that to throw at your title.

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Speaker 3: I had to get rid of so many boxes I had.

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Speaker 3: But I I recently I find upgraded my phone had

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Speaker 3: iPhone thirteen and I got sixteen, and I went into

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01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 3: the Apple store trading my old one and I just

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Speaker 3: brought I had my box from the original thirteen that

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Speaker 3: had and they were like, why.

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Speaker 2: Do you have this box? I was like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to do with this. I was

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Speaker 2: gonna give you.

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Speaker 1: They used a really expensive cardboard and it feels nice.

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Speaker 4: And it's like a legitim box a box.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but why do we have them?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I started throwing them out though, like when I got

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Speaker 5: the thing, maybe the eleven or the twelve. I was like,

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Speaker 5: that's it, not never again. I'm throwing these boxes out.

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Speaker 5: I'm throwing the stickers out. What I don't even use

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01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 5: the stickers and they always just have them.

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Speaker 4: I'm throwing them in there.

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Speaker 2: I won't put that on my car, on my laptop.

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Speaker 2: You can have take it.

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Speaker 5: I know I feel you, though, because a couple of

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Speaker 5: years ago, I lived in an apartment. I shared it

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Speaker 5: with two roommates and we were all out working. It

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Speaker 5: was like, you know, middle of the day, and I

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Speaker 5: got a phone call from one of my roommates and

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01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 5: she was like, I just ran by the apartment and

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Speaker 5: it's on fire.

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01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 4: Now what And she's like, yeah, apparently.

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01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 5: Somebody in the unit right above us or right below

1443
01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:20,480
Speaker 5: no above us left something on like an electrical device

1444
01:05:20,600 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 5: through the night and it caught with the curtain started

1445
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 5: just you know, a flame, and it went down to

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Speaker 5: our apartment. So I don't know, like during the day,

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01:05:29,120 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 5: while we weren't there, the apartment call up in flames,

1448
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 5: so the fire crew had to come, everyone to come.

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01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 5: And ever since that fire happened, it's like I was

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01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 5: I don't invited to just like let go of stuff

1451
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 5: because if my apartment were to burn up right now,

1452
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,479
Speaker 5: how bad would it really be? Like if I don't

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01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 5: have that much stuff, you know. So it kind of

1454
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 5: changed my mindset to like stop putting so much value

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01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 5: on these things that like this is just stuff, you

1456
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:53,760
Speaker 5: know what I mean, Like the things that really matter,

1457
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 5: there's so few. And I honestly used to be a

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01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:58,640
Speaker 5: holder because I'm my mother's daughter. I used to just

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01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 5: have all kinds of stuff they get on I'm gonna

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01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 5: use that fabric for a project or I'm gonna use this.

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Speaker 4: No I'm not. No, I'm not, I'm not gonna use it.

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: And so now I'm not.

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Speaker 5: I can't say I'm a minimalist like you, Chris, but

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01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 5: I definitely am a fan of minimalism.

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Speaker 4: And I understand that feeling.

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Speaker 5: Of like I just packed like two big old bags

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01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:17,640
Speaker 5: of stuff that I don't wear anymore and gave it

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01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 5: to my nieces or gave it to Goodwill, and it's

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01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 5: just like, it feels so good. So I'm second. I'll

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Speaker 5: give you a plus one on that brown boose for sure.

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Speaker 1: Oh. I finally took two. I had two shopping bags

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Speaker 1: full of like the kids stuff in my trunk that

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01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,840
Speaker 1: would have been sitting there forever. And I finally pulled

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01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 1: up to the same donation place that I always pass

1475
01:06:36,120 --> 01:06:39,360
Speaker 1: and still never stop. And I was like, wow, but

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01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: you did. Where's my price? Yeah? Ended up in a

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01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: landfill in China, but you know where's my prize?

1478
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 5: I saw by now that Amazon documentary or with felt

1479
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 5: like an Amazon bashing documentary, but yeah.

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Speaker 4: The one on Netflix.

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01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, girl, Oh my goodness, the way that documentary is

1482
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 5: just like it wasn't.

1483
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 4: Like a super super deep deep dive but like, if.

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Speaker 5: You haven't seen it and you were considered watching it

1485
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,320
Speaker 5: on Netflix, it's called buy Now. I definitely recommend watching

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,600
Speaker 5: it because it's just eye opening, especially if you have

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01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,880
Speaker 5: like middle school kids or high school kid teenagers around

1488
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 5: your house that like, at that age, I don't think

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Speaker 5: you think very deeply about the stuff.

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Speaker 4: You just want it.

1491
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 5: And this film, oh man, it's like, no, we make

1492
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 5: too much, we waste too much, we pollute too much,

1493
01:07:21,760 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 5: we create products that have a limited lifespan on purpose

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01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 5: too much, and it's all about making money. And then

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01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:31,000
Speaker 5: we throw all the junk in countries of black and

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01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:35,080
Speaker 5: brown people who have no choice but to like live

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01:07:35,120 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 5: in filth or like worse comes to worse, like go

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01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 5: through these things which have like chemicals being you know, emitted,

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01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 5: and it's like we're throwing stuff in where they live

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01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 5: to create junk for them or literally worsen their health

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01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:52,280
Speaker 5: conditions while we're over here onto the next And oh man,

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Speaker 5: it just broke my heart.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's just a quick.

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Speaker 5: Oh girl, I highly recommend you watching it by now.

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01:07:58,320 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 5: It is so worth the whatever hour minutes for sure.

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Speaker 1: Just I literally I'm in the middle of such a

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01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 1: stuff you know, just stuff purgatory being a mom having kids,

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01:08:09,600 --> 01:08:12,360
Speaker 1: you just can't It's it's a losing battle against stuff

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01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:15,480
Speaker 1: all the time. So I'm so jealous of you, Chris,

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Speaker 1: but I'm excited for you because it's starting fresh. This

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01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: is a fresh chapter. So the next time you're on

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01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: BA round Table, I don't know when that's going to be,

1513
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,759
Speaker 1: but you'll be living your best life in SF.

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01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 3: I'll be officially up in San Francisco recording from a

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01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,800
Speaker 3: whole new area. And oh, but you know we were

1516
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: talking about like the people just throwing stuff away. I

1517
01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 3: did try this company. I can't vouch for them yet

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01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,320
Speaker 3: and don't because I haven't think officially got everything yet.

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01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 3: But it's called Trashy and it's where you can send

1520
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 3: in like tech products, but also clothing, so cloling. It's

1521
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,120
Speaker 3: like damage stained old shoes, and they take care of

1522
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 3: recycling it properly where it's repurposing it upcycling it and

1523
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:52,720
Speaker 3: that way it doesn't get thrown into a landfill or

1524
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 3: thrown in the ocean, and you know all the horrible

1525
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 3: things happened to it. You do have to pay, so

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01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 3: you're paying for these bags because they're going through and

1527
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 3: doing the recycling for you, but it kind of reliefs

1528
01:09:00,640 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 3: to make guilty head about throwing some stuff away. Yeah,

1529
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:06,719
Speaker 3: so they send you these bags and then it posted

1530
01:09:06,800 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 3: just covered and then you fill it up.

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01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:10,639
Speaker 1: Okay, I love that.

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01:09:10,760 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna look into them because honestly, people just

1533
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 5: end up either putting it at goodwill, giving it someone

1534
01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:16,400
Speaker 5: they know, or jumping it.

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01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's basically what happens.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, all right, ba fam. Well Chris, good luck

1537
01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:22,719
Speaker 1: with your move.

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01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 5: Good luck.

1539
01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm excited for you. I hope everything goes really smoothly.

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01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: Yeah a sef get ready, Chris Browning is ready to

1541
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: put a ring on it finally. All right, be a fanily,

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next time.