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Speaker 2: Here, the three times Super Bowl champion, Black College Hall
Speaker 2: of Famer from Florida A and m he is Nate Newton.
Speaker 4: That's as right there.
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame, Toledo Rockets.
Speaker 5: Scrutch's Gotay Dues that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Cowboys getting ready for the Pittsburgh Steelers.
Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 2: But the press conference today comes up with the news
Speaker 2: and lets us know, Brandon Cooks, the number.
Speaker 3: Two wire receiver is out. Who they need?
Speaker 2: Not good, gentlemen, not good. I'll start with you, guest, guest,
Speaker 2: Uh Nate Newton here. Uh no, Michael Parsons. They haven't
Speaker 2: ruled him out officially, but I'm not expecting Michael Parsons play.
Speaker 2: We know Tank Lowredce is not gonna play. So two
Speaker 2: good d linemen are out. Now you're gonna have a
Speaker 2: wire receiver target in Brandon Cook's out thoughts, Sir.
Speaker 3: It's just a team that's gonna strain.
Speaker 6: We're gonna we're gonna struggle for every yard gained, every
Speaker 6: yard taking away on defense. Uh, it's you know, old cliche,
Speaker 6: but this this really stands is you better rally, you
Speaker 6: better rally your troops, and you better play down in
Speaker 6: distance football situation of football that's offensive and defensively, don't
Speaker 6: do no tricks, just keep it close to the hill
Speaker 6: and then hope at the end of the game that
Speaker 6: Dak has a situation where he's either up by two
Speaker 6: or three or down by two or three and he
Speaker 6: got the ball.
Speaker 5: Last, so he's gotta have the ball. That I agree
Speaker 5: with that. Offensively, they gotta.
Speaker 3: Win first and second down.
Speaker 4: I mean, in this.
Speaker 5: Situation, you can't go against Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh dealing with
Speaker 5: a bunch of third and eighths, third and nine thirty
Speaker 5: and tens because we all understand what that means. TJ whtt,
Speaker 5: Like we always say, pinning the ears back, he's gonna
Speaker 5: get after Prescott. You got Cam Hayward in the middle,
Speaker 5: as well, pinning his ears back, getting after press spots.
Speaker 5: So you gotta win first and second down, and to me,
Speaker 5: that means you gotta try to run the football. I mean,
Speaker 5: we've been talking at this at nausea the first couple
Speaker 5: of weeks. You gotta give it an opportunity, even if
Speaker 5: it's three yards and a cloud of dust, even if
Speaker 5: it's two and a half yards here and there, you
Speaker 5: gotta go ahead and at least attempt to run the
Speaker 5: football to keep them boys honest on that side of
Speaker 5: the football, because the once they no blood in the water,
Speaker 5: I understand. You know, Tom and those boys over there,
Speaker 5: they're gonna get after all right. They're gonna let t. J.
Speaker 5: Watt come off the edge. They're gonna blitz Patrick McQueen
Speaker 5: every which way he can. They gonna let him Heyward
Speaker 5: do what he has to do. The opposite line for
Speaker 5: the Cowboys. Got lucky that Hetsmith's not gonna play this weekend, right,
Speaker 5: because that's two dogs off the edge that you gotta
Speaker 5: worry about.
Speaker 3: But he's gone, he's out of the picture. So the
Speaker 3: meat you gotta stay balanced.
Speaker 5: This is not a game where Prescott can go out
Speaker 5: there and throw the ball forty one times, throw the ball.
Speaker 4: Fifty one times. It's just not gonna add up.
Speaker 5: When you got guys on that side of the football
Speaker 5: that can get after the quarterback the way they do.
Speaker 3: It's a hotsmith.
Speaker 6: Missing is not giving me a sigh of relief because
Speaker 6: they got They got too much, you know, over there
Speaker 6: on the on the other side. And look, man, how
Speaker 6: can I depend on something that I hadn't seen so far?
Speaker 6: I haven't seen I haven't seen a running game here,
Speaker 6: and so I'm not gonna just imagine that comes Sunday night,
Speaker 6: They're gonna conjure one up. I think you have to
Speaker 6: be effective as you're talking about there on first and
Speaker 6: second down. But I'm putting this on Dok. I anticipated
Speaker 6: being a dog fight. It's gonna be. It's gonna be
Speaker 6: a defense. It's a game. But you need for Dak
Speaker 6: to make those big plays. He's in the two victories.
Speaker 6: You've seen Dak bring his hard hat and climb you
Speaker 6: out of plenty of situations. And he gonna have to
Speaker 6: do it again. Everything that y'all said is on point.
Speaker 6: They have to rally, they have to do all of that.
Speaker 6: You know, they have to be good on first and
Speaker 6: second down. They can't allow this defense to tee off
Speaker 6: on him. But Dak gotta be good. I mean, he's
Speaker 6: got to be expectacular because not only are they good upfront,
Speaker 6: they have a safety that is probably one of the
Speaker 6: best safeties in yeah, I mean Fitzpatrick. So man Dak
Speaker 6: is gonna have to be good with his eyes, you know,
Speaker 6: relocating that safety.
Speaker 4: But Ceedee Lamb has got to show up too. He's
Speaker 4: got to show up.
Speaker 6: And this is a Pittsburgh still, a defense that does
Speaker 6: give up some big yardage in the passing game.
Speaker 3: So I anticipate that.
Speaker 6: When you go on the road, you know, the stars
Speaker 6: have to show up and show out. And I'm with you,
Speaker 6: Ceedee Lamb, Jake Ferguson, Dak gonna have to do what
Speaker 6: they gotta do. But I'm telling you, fellas, whether you
Speaker 6: want to or not run the ball, you gotta save
Speaker 6: your left tackle. He's in a he's in a tail
Speaker 6: spin that's unbelievable right now. And if you want this
Speaker 6: kid to have a future, you got to run that
Speaker 6: ball at least forty five percent of the time at.
Speaker 2: Least, So stay there and there. What we saw against
Speaker 2: him against the Giants. Wasn't pretty. It wasn't pretty, a
Speaker 2: lot of holding. The competition steps up this week with
Speaker 2: t J Watt. Next week you got eight hutcheson.
Speaker 3: Oh god, so.
Speaker 7: I but.
Speaker 3: God, what good correction? You see? That sounds more smooth?
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 2: How do they help him? Is it putting schoonmaker there?
Speaker 2: Is it having lit in the backfield to help me?
Speaker 2: How do they help Guidon? Because we saw what was
Speaker 2: happening against the Giants, and the competition's getting back.
Speaker 6: I don't care quicker quicker passes, and I saw it
Speaker 6: a lot. If people say you can't do it the
Speaker 6: whole game, yes you can. Because the Seattle Seahawks quarterback
Speaker 6: the whole game. If you watched him, he was not
Speaker 6: holding that ball. Believe what you see, Dak, and you
Speaker 6: got to get it there. That's mean your pre snap
Speaker 6: reeves got to be perfect and your anticipation got to
Speaker 6: be there. You got to help this kid, help you.
Speaker 6: And because you can't just always turn the protection to
Speaker 6: help him. You can't always have ferguson one of the
Speaker 6: other tight ends jamming down on this guy. What he
Speaker 6: has to do is become technique.
Speaker 3: Sound.
Speaker 6: What if I was coaching him, which I'm not. Me
Speaker 6: and him would always be talking about technique and we'll
Speaker 6: be going over to film ourselves as offensive line coach. Son,
Speaker 6: that's me and you talk. What do you see about
Speaker 6: this player? What do you think you can do to him?
Speaker 3: What you know?
Speaker 6: This is how we when we bump. Like last week,
Speaker 6: they bump the big guy, the big full back.
Speaker 3: Your guy. Look, he bumped him, but knocked.
Speaker 6: Him inside and the kid missed him.
Speaker 3: Little things like that.
Speaker 6: You got to work on every detail with him and
Speaker 6: bring his technique under control so his confidence can come
Speaker 6: back out of the control. Because, believe it or not,
Speaker 6: left tackles don't get as much help as people think.
Speaker 6: You can put people in the way. But these defensive
Speaker 6: linemen are so smart.
Speaker 3: I say, breaks it down. They are so smart, man.
Speaker 6: They see these bumps, they anticipate these things, and they
Speaker 6: still have secondary moves. This kid got to get out
Speaker 6: of his head that he doesn't have feet. This guy
Speaker 6: has great feet, talented feet. Let this guy run.
Speaker 3: Around the horn. I don't care.
Speaker 6: Don't jump out at no but tackles. I hate the
Speaker 6: coach that decided that tackles short set and what I
Speaker 6: mean by that is when you're a guard. I got
Speaker 6: a center and a tackle right here, I got newer
Speaker 6: ahead of me. I can set, I can short set you.
Speaker 6: You ain't got two inches on tom my right or left.
Speaker 6: But when a tackle tried to sit out there and
Speaker 6: short set a guy, and you leave.
Speaker 4: It all this space.
Speaker 6: If you miss, you miss, And that's what's been happening here.
Speaker 6: He'll try to short set. You ain't in college, baby,
Speaker 6: you ain't the dominate guy. These guys can think. They
Speaker 6: ain't getting twenty million dollars a year, not to be
Speaker 6: able to think and.
Speaker 3: Not to have the talent.
Speaker 6: So you got to sit back, get to your space,
Speaker 6: make sure they come to you.
Speaker 3: Don't lean.
Speaker 6: You got arms, spanions can touch each wall, use them.
Speaker 3: Is that he followed with that when you say short
Speaker 3: set and he's he's yeah, he is that? Where is
Speaker 3: that where the holding starts to come in there after?
Speaker 6: Because once you miss, and once you don't lock your
Speaker 6: hands out, once you miss, boom, Now is the next
Speaker 6: thing you do is to grab. But if you punch
Speaker 6: it from the inside out, now you hitting you hitting
Speaker 6: aim small, you hit large, aim large, and you grab
Speaker 6: everything and it's a hole. Now for guiding. And one
Speaker 6: of the things that I've evaluated from him is when
Speaker 6: he's having a bad game, he just throw. He just
Speaker 6: puts his technique in his back pocket.
Speaker 3: Yes he does. And that's not cool. Getting a street fight.
Speaker 6: That's good when you are when you are offensive guard.
Speaker 6: That's you know, I've been hurt. I've played against a
Speaker 6: spectacular player and uh and I you know, the coach
Speaker 6: would be like, you do the Hey, coach, I'm listening
Speaker 6: to you and I'm looking like I'm looking in your eyes.
Speaker 3: Knew it. But as soon as I crossed that line
Speaker 3: to go back out on that field, I'm looking at
Speaker 3: that dude.
Speaker 6: Like, homeboy, you's jersey about tore off you. I'm finna
Speaker 6: get your pass next.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So so so you would say that out of this
Speaker 5: offensive line, the biggest matchup would be that left tackle and.
Speaker 6: Not whoever they put so put over there. I don't
Speaker 6: think they'll move ninety nine that much. He loves sitting.
Speaker 6: So it's gonna be camera and it's gonna be uh Larry,
Speaker 6: I can't even owe g u in with a gun
Speaker 6: in its name. It's gonna be that guy. Yeah, so
Speaker 6: you're gonna face a bunch of guys. Uh, But but
Speaker 6: for him, it don't change left tackles. For all the
Speaker 6: athletic ability they're supposed to have, it don't change.
Speaker 3: Your goal is always to run them around the outside.
Speaker 6: Even on three step drops, you go for the inside leg.
Speaker 6: You don't even go for the outside leg. You don't
Speaker 6: try to take both. You still go for the inside
Speaker 6: because your goal is to make him go outside.
Speaker 4: So I gotta ask this question.
Speaker 6: So when you looked at both of these wells, specifically
Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the games that they've played, and
Speaker 6: we always do a between you know, teams, teams we
Speaker 6: lost to and teams that they've beaten. I look at
Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Stills and I say, hey, who have they beaten?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 6: Their first game against Atlanta was a snooze fest. If
Speaker 6: a bunch of field goals, they won that one. They
Speaker 6: go up against the Broncos team, it's a rookie.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: Then the other games, obviously I'm saying these quarterbacks are
Speaker 6: not good and not giving them any, not threatening them any.
Speaker 6: Although they lost to the Coats. You lost to the
Speaker 6: Saints in Baltimore. That Saints tape is a teach tape
Speaker 6: for how to play offensive line and how to get
Speaker 6: your defensive line hurt. That Baltimore game was one where
Speaker 6: you face a Ravens team that probably has a repeat
Speaker 6: MVP on it in Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 4: Who I mean for me?
Speaker 6: I'm saying in those losses, the Cowboys go out there
Speaker 6: on the field, and I don't care what you practice
Speaker 6: for during the week, your scout team can't mimic what
Speaker 6: the Baltimore Ravens are doing. Do you feel as though
Speaker 6: that the Cowboys have faced opposition above what the Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: Steelers are playing? We should give them a leg up
Speaker 6: in this game versus a team that doesn't have a
Speaker 6: stout a running game.
Speaker 3: You know it would be one hundred Yes.
Speaker 6: If it was last year's offensive line and it was
Speaker 6: the fourth or fifth game. Veteran guys know how to play,
Speaker 6: know where their help coming from. Right now, I said, no, no,
Speaker 6: you you got to give Pittsburgh theirs. Their defensive line
Speaker 6: is too active. They moved too much. If we're not
Speaker 6: in sync and knowing who the block and how to block,
Speaker 6: they ain't gonna bring a whole lot of blitzes. If
Speaker 6: you that you want to call the inside linebackers coming,
Speaker 6: Patrick queen and all them guys you want to call that,
Speaker 6: I just call that an extra man coming. Uh, it's
Speaker 6: our offensive line, you know on the show we did earlier,
Speaker 6: they said Jesse started giving out numbers, and then the
Speaker 6: guy looked at me and said, what do.
Speaker 3: You think they?
Speaker 6: I said, offensive line is bad number. People make the numbers.
Speaker 6: We make the numbers percentages, not.
Speaker 3: The other way around. With the Cowboys and ninety percent
Speaker 3: on third.
Speaker 6: Now, well we win the game, but Ivis line ain't
Speaker 6: ninety percent. Ovis line probably about seventy percent.
Speaker 3: So we make the numbers.
Speaker 2: Barry, you touched on it when you were asking him
Speaker 2: earlier a little bit about Cooper BB and uh PFF
Speaker 2: had given a high grade.
Speaker 3: I don't know, did you guys see the Dexter Lawrence tweet?
Speaker 7: What did he say?
Speaker 3: No, it's what did he say?
Speaker 6: Going on?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 3: You can't he like, uh, he know what happened out there.
Speaker 6: But let me say this a young boy's uh young
Speaker 6: boy's perspective. I saw what Dexter Lawrence did to the
Speaker 6: previous sinners and his name was called a lot. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I saw. I'm like, WHOA, I was scared for BB.
Speaker 6: I'm like, man did this by mom? Know he's out there.
Speaker 3: You know I was. I was scared for him.
Speaker 4: But at the end of the day, did we.
Speaker 3: Hear Dexter a whole lot? Not a whole lot?
Speaker 6: Because this kid worded him enough. Yeah, he made he
Speaker 6: escaped the comes down, but he word in bothering him
Speaker 6: like a dog word in a bone enough to keep
Speaker 6: him off. And see, I'm not a big what is
Speaker 6: it pff PF changed, But I'm not a big guy
Speaker 6: on that either. You know when I see it, When
Speaker 6: I see that, you know, but when I do see
Speaker 6: it matching like.
Speaker 4: Cameron Heywood, that's the one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that matches.
Speaker 6: He's active and if you don't get with it, he
Speaker 6: gonna get with you.
Speaker 3: I seen him in Nelson go for the cold.
Speaker 4: That was nice.
Speaker 5: So on the officer line, can you help that center
Speaker 5: with a guard whatever which side act Martin nor talents
Speaker 5: they've been happening, can you help him.
Speaker 3: As well as on the outside.
Speaker 4: So somebody somebody got a one on one and it's been.
Speaker 3: Our left tackle. It's been our left tackle.
Speaker 2: And throughout all that you're telling us figure out a
Speaker 2: way to run the ball.
Speaker 6: You got to, you know, Jesse Holly always don't run
Speaker 6: into a brick wall, man, tad down, dynamite it, get
Speaker 6: in the crackslud run water up in there. It'll bust
Speaker 6: of pipes. Just squeeze it in up. Get you a
Speaker 6: crow bot, shake it, do whatever you gotta do. But
Speaker 6: you got to run into that brickwall. Who's you got
Speaker 6: to who's the running back then? And right now it
Speaker 6: is Rico Dollard. Ain't nowhere in the world I ever
Speaker 6: turn on Zeke. Y'all know me from last year. I
Speaker 6: was so mad and hot that balls up in New
Speaker 6: England wasting all our reps. Right, you better put ric
Speaker 6: o'donald in there and tell him to bow his neck.
Speaker 7: Son.
Speaker 4: If it's to the right, right outside the guard, we
Speaker 4: gonna wedge.
Speaker 3: Up in there.
Speaker 6: If it's to the left, rap between the sun and God,
Speaker 6: we're gonna wedge up in there. And if it's to
Speaker 6: the outside, taking and run for your life. I'm just
Speaker 6: being on. You got to run through some people, and
Speaker 6: Pittsburg ain't no bad tackling a team.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm, what all I've seen? No? I mean, look,
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get some hope them up in here. Man,
Speaker 3: you know cowboy.
Speaker 6: I gotta get, but I got the Cowboys winning this
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Speaker 2: has a seven and eight record in Pittsburgh. They last
Speaker 2: played in twenty sixteen in Pittsburgh. Elliotts with a thirty
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Speaker 2: Based on what Nate Newton said, here your reaction hack Maharris.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it's one of those things where for
Speaker 6: everyone that's putting blame on Guiden, that perspective obviously shows
Speaker 6: you that he has a lot of growing to do quickly,
Speaker 6: and it's in these in these next couple of games
Speaker 6: as we're looking for him to mature through the process.
Speaker 6: It's going to be very interesting to watch. You know,
Speaker 6: are they getting the most out of their first round
Speaker 6: draft pick? He's he is going to be up against
Speaker 6: the monsters. We started off the season talking about him
Speaker 6: going up against Cleveland and their defense man TJ.
Speaker 3: Watt.
Speaker 6: As You've talked about some of the best in the
Speaker 6: league that he's having to face. And this is like
Speaker 6: man like talk about out of the frying pan into
Speaker 6: the buyer situation for a young man. And I think
Speaker 6: what I've been just trying to say, Nate Echo that
Speaker 6: is you can't help him all the time. You can't
Speaker 6: help him all the time, and he's going to be
Speaker 6: on an island and teams are going to try to
Speaker 6: victimize him as much as they possibly can. But my
Speaker 6: thought process has been with this running game. You know, look,
Speaker 6: I'm not gonna wish upon the start, it's gonna happen.
Speaker 6: I know that you gotta do it, but I mean,
Speaker 6: he furthered like explained that you got you just you
Speaker 6: got to you got to go into Hinesville and you
Speaker 6: got to try and find some semblance of a running
Speaker 6: game to be successful.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I love what he said about the running game because
Speaker 5: that sometimes that's just how it is. You gotta run
Speaker 5: into the brick wall. You may only go out there
Speaker 5: twenty carriers for fifty yards. You know that may be
Speaker 5: the case, but you're keeping that defense.
Speaker 4: Honest.
Speaker 5: My only thing is with that run game, give give
Speaker 5: somebody to rock on multiple cake like, don't just do
Speaker 5: this switching thing. I mean, I've turned to talking about it,
Speaker 5: but this rotating thing has got to and give somebody
Speaker 5: the lead dog position up when it comes to that
Speaker 5: running attack. Another thing he talked about is, you know,
Speaker 5: to help this offensive line is get the ball out
Speaker 5: of Dak's hands quick, you know, quick.
Speaker 3: Throws, hit CD lambs, ceede lamb.
Speaker 5: My only thing with that is how who's.
Speaker 3: Gonna win these one on ones? Who are we throwing
Speaker 3: the ball quick?
Speaker 4: Too?
Speaker 5: When you look at it and if I can see it,
Speaker 5: I know Tomlin and them boys can see it. In
Speaker 5: the secondary, there's still gonna be sitting on everything. There's
Speaker 5: no threat of deepness when you talk about this, this
Speaker 5: this offense, there's no threat going over the top of
Speaker 5: your head.
Speaker 4: I mean the only guy that was known known.
Speaker 5: To to top off was Cooks and he will not
Speaker 5: be in attendance. You know, you got CD LAMB, and
Speaker 5: I'm sure they're gonna put all their resources in the
Speaker 5: stop in CD Lamb.
Speaker 3: But when you talk about getting the ball out of
Speaker 3: your hands quick, who's going Who's gonna win? Is it
Speaker 3: gonna be Ferd? Is it gonna be Toburt Turping turping?
Speaker 5: You know who's gonna be going out there and consistently
Speaker 5: win to get the ball to your hands quick because
Speaker 5: we know if he holds it back there for too long,
Speaker 5: eventually t j Ye cam Hamard an recruiter, gonna get
Speaker 5: after him.
Speaker 3: So you know, when it comes.
Speaker 5: To this passing game, I'm I'm perplexed because I just
Speaker 5: don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't see what a threat is passing the football.
Speaker 3: So quick pass get out to the flat.
Speaker 6: You got you know a guy, you know a guy
Speaker 6: you gotta say, set up sat.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, lip Key, roll out there, catch one.
Speaker 4: That's a long drive.
Speaker 3: So let me go over the final rush numbers from
Speaker 3: the Giants game.
Speaker 2: Ric o'daddle eleven attempts forty six yards average four point
Speaker 2: two or toe Ezekiel elliott I rushing attempts nineteen yards
Speaker 2: average three point eight a tote ceedee Lamb had three
Speaker 2: carries for eight yards two point seven, Lipkey two carries
Speaker 2: eight yards, and then Dak two carries minus one, so
Speaker 2: they really didn't count there, but a total of twenty
Speaker 2: five carries for eighty yards, averaging three and a half.
Speaker 3: You talk about how do you split up the reps?
Speaker 2: Here hekma so Rico's got double what Elliott's got, and
Speaker 2: he's got a lot more than Lifkey. How would you
Speaker 2: like to see them divided up? Looking at the twenty
Speaker 2: three carries versus twenty seven attempts passing Ford.
Speaker 4: Now I'm with Bury on this.
Speaker 6: I really do feel as though you have to lean
Speaker 6: on one of these guys over another bell cow, whatever
Speaker 6: you want to call it, give him an opportunity to
Speaker 6: get into some type of rhythm, and so at least
Speaker 6: you can discern as you go through the season how
Speaker 6: these guys are giving you productive being in that role,
Speaker 6: You're not going to get the best out of any
Speaker 6: of these guys. Continue to switch up the time that
Speaker 6: they're getting all right. First down, you come in with
Speaker 6: zig Z gets you two yards, You yank him. You
Speaker 6: bring in another guy, he only gets you three yards,
Speaker 6: You yank him. Next thing, you in a third and five,
Speaker 6: you know, and it's just you're in a perpetual nightmare.
Speaker 6: I feel like on offense, and I think that's the
Speaker 6: one thing that people are really tired of. When it
Speaker 6: comes down to the offense that you had last season
Speaker 6: to the ones you have this season, they just it
Speaker 6: gets stagnant at times and at times. So look, I
Speaker 6: don't want to change our spots going into this game.
Speaker 6: You asked the question about who can take the top
Speaker 6: off of this take the top off of still his defense.
Speaker 6: I think you have some guys that can do it.
Speaker 6: That's why I say, Kevan Turpin, do you give him
Speaker 6: an opportunity to be at least in a decoy row,
Speaker 6: you know, just hall ass fast as you can, you know,
Speaker 6: and make them turn and run with you and then
Speaker 6: run somebody underneath it. But that's why I feel like
Speaker 6: you know Dak is just in that situation.
Speaker 4: Where go route on one.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 6: I mean, but you have that's what you have not
Speaker 6: gotten from in this offense.
Speaker 2: So let me go back to this, and we're talking
Speaker 2: about just the rushing totals. So I laid out the Giants.
Speaker 2: This is what was done against Baltimore. So we're starting
Speaker 2: to see a trend here. Okay, Baltimore, they only had
Speaker 2: sixteen rushes here because I the game got away from
Speaker 2: a versus the fifty one attempts. But it was Dawdle
Speaker 2: eight carries for thirty two yards. Dak had two for seven,
Speaker 2: Elliott had three carries for six, Duvon had two carries
Speaker 2: for five yards, and then Turpin had one carry. So
Speaker 2: we're seeing Donnell's doubling up yep Ezekiel Ellie. So we
Speaker 2: see what the trend is. So if he's getting double
Speaker 2: right now, you want to see more than that. So
Speaker 2: eight for thirty two, why not give him sixteen?
Speaker 3: You know? Why not? You know, take some of these
Speaker 3: other other reps from these other running maxims.
Speaker 2: And let them get a laugh going. But keep in mind, now,
Speaker 2: if the Baltimore game got away for you got a way.
Speaker 2: So you weren't able to run him, but still in
Speaker 2: sixteen carries he had eight of them, and so Daddle
Speaker 2: with eight versus three for Elliott one and two for Valling.
Speaker 2: So we're seeing already he's doubling up Zeke. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: you want to see more. That's what I'm trying to
Speaker 2: ask the question you're you're is that not enough? Because
Speaker 2: I said, I look at two games here and I'm
Speaker 2: seeing a trend already where they moved to Rico and
Speaker 2: they're doubling up what he's getting versus.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would love to see more from Rico and
Speaker 5: just let him be that established back and then also
Speaker 5: what I want to see. You know, Mike McCarthy did
Speaker 5: a great job last year when it came to play
Speaker 5: calling creativity. You got a guy in turping back there
Speaker 5: who can be that spark play like you.
Speaker 4: Know he was.
Speaker 5: Line him up in the backfield, get him some of
Speaker 5: that that flavor where we talk about maybe it's a
Speaker 5: fourth and one, you fake the lifty and you throw
Speaker 5: a flip to turpin something to get some type of
Speaker 5: juice out of this run game. You know, it can't
Speaker 5: just be you know, Iso here Io there, power here,
Speaker 5: Power there. You gotta stretch out the defense as well,
Speaker 5: and you may not have that in the back for
Speaker 5: as far as explosiveness, but you can bring a guy
Speaker 5: like Turpin in who wants the balls in his hands.
Speaker 5: He can become that explosive back And it's not like
Speaker 5: you have to do it, you know, eight or ten
Speaker 5: times a game. If you sprinkle it in here too,
Speaker 5: three times a game, it'll keep that defense honest. So
Speaker 5: I'm just trying to find that creative ways to get
Speaker 5: this run game going because right now that's you know,
Speaker 5: in the backfield, it's just left a lot to be desired. Yeah,
Speaker 5: we ain't just get here to the point where we
Speaker 5: needed a playmaker.
Speaker 4: We've been We've been saying this for a while.
Speaker 6: It's CD and you got a flashlight out looking for
Speaker 6: other guys to me and maybes right, and it's not
Speaker 6: even close.
Speaker 3: So guess.
Speaker 6: It's glad as night and the Pips. Who's who's your
Speaker 6: backup there?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: We need we need some guys here. And it's not
Speaker 6: look I've been calling for Ferd. I've been saying it.
Speaker 6: Look for take the next step, be that dominant piece.
Speaker 6: You look at other team, look around the NFL and
Speaker 6: see the way that they're using that the tight ends.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be the same in Pittsburgh. I mean, for fields,
Speaker 6: he's gonna have to rely heavily on his tight ends
Speaker 6: because you know, he likes it if he can't run,
Speaker 6: the line of sight for him and his reads is
Speaker 6: gonna be pickings and his tight end.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 4: That's that's all they're gonna do.
Speaker 6: And so in this case, while we're looking around saying,
Speaker 6: who's gonna be that next guy because he can't just
Speaker 6: all be on CD. Look you come into some games
Speaker 6: where hell, that's all you got. You know, let's trying
Speaker 6: to catfish ourself. You know, look that's all we got
Speaker 6: and CD has got to come out there.
Speaker 4: What's wrong with that?
Speaker 6: By saying, look that the chips are down, it's third
Speaker 6: and nine, and you know the ball is going to
Speaker 6: CD and he double team. You're paying him thirty four
Speaker 6: million dollars. You look at the top echelon of the
Speaker 6: wide receivers in the league. Everybody knows where you're going
Speaker 6: with the ball. CD, do the damn thing. Come on,
Speaker 6: sometimes you got to I mean, it's going on now,
Speaker 6: come on now, I mean, and you have played against
Speaker 6: those players over and over again that you see, like, man,
Speaker 6: look when the chips are down, they're gonna ride this
Speaker 6: guy right here, and we gotta be ready for it.
Speaker 4: And then you're get in the game and you still
Speaker 4: can't stop it.
Speaker 2: I think when you spoke about Turpin, there could be
Speaker 2: something there going back to what just based off what
Speaker 2: Nate said, get the ball out quick. If you're gonna
Speaker 2: get out quick, kid like Turpin made a living on
Speaker 2: that at TCU. Just let's get it to him, hit
Speaker 2: him and let him make a move and see what
Speaker 2: else you can do. This is one where you have
Speaker 2: to see the creativity of Mike McCarthy this week.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, this is all.
Speaker 2: This This is where coaching comes in. They've got they
Speaker 2: got some clear warts. How do you cover up the
Speaker 2: warts this week?
Speaker 6: But it's a big difference between creativity and cute.
Speaker 4: Don't get cute?
Speaker 3: Okay, So give an example of that.
Speaker 6: I mean, I would think, like, man, a double reverse,
Speaker 6: you know, it's don't get cute, that that would be
Speaker 6: getting cute. I love fleet flickers, so I'm not gonna
Speaker 6: even say don't do a fleet flicker. If it work,
Speaker 6: work all right, But but just something too ultra creative,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Just look, if you're gonna
Speaker 6: run your power game with Liptya and like it. I
Speaker 6: like the way it works, and I feel like rico'
Speaker 6: dado even is productive in that power game.
Speaker 3: You know, keep it in front of you.
Speaker 6: Don't try and get first of all, like you, like
Speaker 6: you were saying, first and second down is so important.
Speaker 6: And if you don't give the people in the back
Speaker 6: of the explanation, they don't know, you know, verse and second,
Speaker 6: so you can come up on third and short. You know,
Speaker 6: don't make this work harder than your need to make it.
Speaker 6: And so that's why the cowboys right now, they've been
Speaker 6: throwing a ton on first down if you haven't noticed,
Speaker 6: you know, And so that's what kind of gets them
Speaker 6: into those pickles on third and long. And you're like,
Speaker 6: damn that gonna have to pull a rabbit out of
Speaker 6: his hat in order to move these changs. Just we
Speaker 6: can't have this situation, and we damn sure can't have
Speaker 6: it on the road.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get a break, our final break when
Speaker 2: we come back.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a number.
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Speaker 3: It is spooky season?
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a national rut roll for the Cowboys.
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Speaker 2: the Cowboys need to change this and one reason.
Speaker 3: Why Nate talked about running the football.
Speaker 2: Baltimore held the ball against the Cowboys for thirty four
Speaker 2: minutes and forty five seconds.
Speaker 3: They had four scoring drives. All four of those scoring
Speaker 3: drives were touchdowns. Wow.
Speaker 2: Last week against the Giants, they held the ball for
Speaker 2: thirty five minutes and thirty seven seconds. They had five
Speaker 2: scoring drives, but they were all field goals. They've got
Speaker 2: to run the ball, heck, so you can keep the
Speaker 2: defense off the field. And this is a game where
Speaker 2: you had Tank Lawrence and Michael Parsons on the field,
Speaker 2: and they were on there for thirty five even when the.
Speaker 3: Cowboys were good.
Speaker 2: We've always said this defense isn't good enough to stay
Speaker 2: on the field for thirty five minutes.
Speaker 3: In fact, no good defense in the league can be
Speaker 3: out here for half the game.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and most of the teams that you go up
Speaker 6: against they have those same figures, And what they're gonna
Speaker 6: do is try and mimic that exact same thing. Pittsburgh
Speaker 6: is from a division they call it the Black and
Speaker 6: Blue Division.
Speaker 4: This is just what they do.
Speaker 6: They run the ball and they can put generate and
Speaker 6: put these drives together. But what I saw from them
Speaker 6: in Atlanta is they'll do the same thing. They'll cap
Speaker 6: it off, but they'll get down there and they will
Speaker 6: kick a field goal.
Speaker 4: And so that's y'all didn't fall for the bait.
Speaker 6: But I was trying to ask the question about who
Speaker 6: they've gone up against, and do you know, do you say,
Speaker 6: in comparison, the Cowboys have had a tougher schedule, But
Speaker 6: I look, they're gonna come out and they're gonna try
Speaker 6: and do some of the things that you've already seen
Speaker 6: that the Giants do and also Baltimore do and the
Speaker 6: Saints do. But I just don't believe that Najie Harris
Speaker 6: is that kind of running back that can give you
Speaker 6: the kind of production that you got from Derrick Henry.
Speaker 6: I just don't. I don't think he is number forty
Speaker 6: one from the Saints. I don't think that they have
Speaker 6: an offensive line that can push you up front.
Speaker 3: Like that either.
Speaker 6: But I don't think our defensive line is rap tight
Speaker 6: and put together well either. So at the first quarter
Speaker 6: of the season, I'm looking at this defense and saying, obviously,
Speaker 6: without tank, without the bazooka, without all the things that
Speaker 6: you know you're gonna have, and what you're missing on offense, man,
Speaker 6: this is one where you have to stand up and
Speaker 6: stop the run. It's got to be about pride in
Speaker 6: this game, because if the Steelers can get a running
Speaker 6: game going where we look up at the end of
Speaker 6: the night, Najie Harris has one hundred and twenty yards,
Speaker 6: this is a nightmare style of a game for the
Speaker 6: Dallas Cowboy.
Speaker 3: It'd be ugly if if he has those type of numbers.
Speaker 4: And I'm not so sure.
Speaker 5: You know what Warren's status is the backup running back
Speaker 5: to the Nagie. But they got that kind of one
Speaker 5: two punch lightning, lightning and thunder type deal. But when
Speaker 5: you look at the Steelers offensive coordinator, I believe it's
Speaker 5: Arthur Smith. If I'm not, Yeah, Robert Falcons coach exactly,
Speaker 5: and you know exactly what he loves to do, and
Speaker 5: that's run the football.
Speaker 4: They're gonna give.
Speaker 5: You so many different type of varia or variations of
Speaker 5: the run game. You gonna see the power this way,
Speaker 5: but this time they might bring the center instead, they
Speaker 5: might bring the guard. And to me, what worries me is,
Speaker 5: you have a young defensive line without the tank, without Parsons.
Speaker 5: You got a young defensive line who I'm not so short.
Speaker 5: They're gonna be reading all the right keys. You know
Speaker 5: what we're gonna be thinking, gottaet a field. I gotta
Speaker 5: get up field. And that's exactly what the hero that's
Speaker 5: hero ball. And when you look at Arthur Smith, he
Speaker 5: has one of the most complex run systems that there
Speaker 5: is in the National Football League.
Speaker 3: And we saw that with the Saints the same situation.
Speaker 6: Okay, wait a minute, now, Arthur Smith's offense and you
Speaker 6: from the Burg, so you you hear about how people
Speaker 6: from the Burg complain about his offense. It has the
Speaker 6: creativity as of a brick sometimes passing the football.
Speaker 14: Okay, okay, you ain't gonna you ain't gonna put up
Speaker 14: big chunk, explosive your ages.
Speaker 3: You ain't gonna get that. But the run game.
Speaker 6: But there's certain things, there's certain things with certain teams
Speaker 6: that you should expect. I mean, when you go to Pittsburgh,
Speaker 6: you should expect the defense in the run game, and
Speaker 6: that's that's why author Smith is there. But I'm just like, look,
Speaker 6: there's a lot to be desired that he leaves on
Speaker 6: the table, and I don't I don't buy any means
Speaker 6: when I do a comparison between what we've seen and
Speaker 6: what we're gonna go up against them, that that doesn't
Speaker 6: wild me. I mean, even with looking at New Orleans,
Speaker 6: I'm like, they when we evaluated it was against the Panthers,
Speaker 6: they were like, man, they roll the Panthers, they can't
Speaker 6: do that to us. Well, they came and did the
Speaker 6: same thing and some right, and the same thing that
Speaker 6: I'm saying with Baltimore. So that's what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: with the pieces that they have on the offensive line,
Speaker 6: I just don't I'm hoping that we don't get rolled
Speaker 6: the same way because I just don't feel like they
Speaker 6: have the same strength up front.
Speaker 2: So looking here, just at the statistical comparisons, the Steelers
Speaker 2: are averaging one hundred and twenty nine yards a game
Speaker 2: on the ground, that's tenth in the league. But their
Speaker 2: scoring is eighteen point eight, so nineteen again.
Speaker 3: So they're not going to score a whole lot.
Speaker 2: They'll run the ball, they're not scoring a lot kind
Speaker 2: of going with you said, Heck, kicking field goals justin
Speaker 2: fields can keep you at a football game.
Speaker 3: With some of the mistakes he made, they can't beat themselves.
Speaker 2: This becomes one of those I think about Bill Belichick
Speaker 2: and the Patriots where they would do a good job of, hey,
Speaker 2: we're not gonna beat ourselves. And if the Cowboys can
Speaker 2: eliminate some of that, which means no holding penalties, false starts,
Speaker 2: illegal motion, the things that the drive killers that they
Speaker 2: have as there when you look at the penalties there,
Speaker 2: they got thirty two penalties this year, tied for sixth
Speaker 2: in the league. They can cut that down. This looks
Speaker 2: like it could be a low scoring game and get
Speaker 2: it to the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: And I'm sure we're going to dive into this a
Speaker 5: little bit later this week. But you know, the numbers
Speaker 5: were talking about and defensively holding them, the field goals
Speaker 5: and all that.
Speaker 3: That's when we were at full strength.
Speaker 5: You're missing Parsons, you're missing Tank Lawrence, You're missing may
Speaker 5: possibly Carson on the outside as a corner. You know,
Speaker 5: Dale Jones went out there last week and played a
Speaker 5: hell of a game against this defense. You know they
Speaker 5: weren't able to finish it off in the red zone,
Speaker 5: but you just put off the number thirty five minutes
Speaker 5: of time in possession.
Speaker 3: That means he was driving the football in between the.
Speaker 4: Twenties, and I get it.
Speaker 5: You know it was great red zone defense, but you
Speaker 5: also had Parsonston Tank Lawrence in that red zone defense.
Speaker 5: Now you bringing up some guys from the practice squad.
Speaker 5: You know, the only blue chipper, like we like to say,
Speaker 5: is maybe digs on the outside against the run. So
Speaker 5: to me, it's kind of like, man, you know, I
Speaker 5: know Pittsburgh's offensive line may be weak, but do we
Speaker 5: have the defensive line to take advantage of it?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't know. No, this is that's what I
Speaker 3: worry about.
Speaker 6: But I'm also with Nui when he says Justin Fields
Speaker 6: will give you an opportunity, Because he will, he still
Speaker 6: makes those rookie style mistakes. You have to generate some
Speaker 6: type of turnover and you also have to generate some
Speaker 6: type of pressure. He can't just sit back there and
Speaker 6: be able to pat the ball. But even if he does,
Speaker 6: can he read it, is what I'm saying, And that's
Speaker 6: where he has some problems not to you know, be
Speaker 6: condescending about him and his athletic ability, because I do
Speaker 6: believe when things break down, he's the best. You know,
Speaker 6: he's one of those guys guys that can make you pay.
Speaker 6: But I trust our secondary against a guy like friar Mouth.
Speaker 3: You know what makes you.
Speaker 5: Say that, Like, what time proof and consistency do you
Speaker 5: have that our secondary can can hold it down?
Speaker 6: Because I don't, you know, in retrospect or when you
Speaker 6: think about some of the tight ends that they have.
Speaker 6: He's not amongst the top tier guys. I don't expect
Speaker 6: him to run away from you if it is it's short.
Speaker 6: I don't expect for friar Mouth to beat you over
Speaker 6: the top. If he does, then obviously I'll be proven
Speaker 6: to be a liar in that situation.
Speaker 4: But I just feel as though you should.
Speaker 6: I feel like my linebacker should be able to compete
Speaker 6: in that situation versus my safeties.
Speaker 2: I'm not looking for friar to get seven catches and
Speaker 2: ninety yards, but he's the kind of guy who could
Speaker 2: get four catches one or two of those first down exactly,
Speaker 2: And if Donovan Wilson or somebody can't make a right
Speaker 2: and make a tackle, be one of where he gets
Speaker 2: into the end zone. And if you're only scoring nineteen
Speaker 2: in a game, you just need they're looking for two touchdowns.
Speaker 2: They're looking for two touchdowns, a couple of field goals,
Speaker 2: and then they're good. And so that's what scares me
Speaker 2: about that is Fields is a boom bust player in
Speaker 2: terms of, hey, he's going to hit a big one.
Speaker 2: He'll make a big play.
Speaker 3: He'll make a screw up too. But that's that thing
Speaker 3: of just Daniel Jones could never hit that boom play.
Speaker 2: That's why you got the field goals. Yes, Fields, that's
Speaker 2: where he's different. He'll hit you with a boom play,
Speaker 2: so you pick do something crazy fumbling the ball, but
Speaker 2: he will give you that. That's the thing for me
Speaker 2: where I'm like, man, you can't beat yourself cowboys, you've
Speaker 2: got the hooker, can't get out here, can't fall for
Speaker 2: the old, the old, give them gold. I mean, you
Speaker 2: know it went on the fourth down play with singletaryes
Speaker 2: in the back to Donovan missed attacking.
Speaker 3: You can't do this. You've got you got. I mean,
Speaker 3: this is one where Nate talked about. I'll go back
Speaker 3: to what Nates. You got to rout the troops.
Speaker 2: Man, this this has to be a collective win where
Speaker 2: everybody is doing their thing and not beating themselves.
Speaker 6: I mean everything that y'all saying and what I'm positioning
Speaker 6: in this as especially with what I've seen from them,
Speaker 6: I just don't like when we went into the Baltimore game,
Speaker 6: we were talking about Baltimore's tight ends because they're really,
Speaker 6: really really you know, and so and I'm not and
Speaker 6: not to and not disrespected for our move either. I
Speaker 6: just don't see him in the same capacity. Is that
Speaker 6: when it comes down to George Pickens. I mean talk
Speaker 6: about a matchup of the devil receivers. I mean George
Speaker 6: Pickens and CD Lamp. George Pickens is a guy that
Speaker 6: if you frustrate him early, he'll be a you know,
Speaker 6: he'll be on the sideline pouting and you know he'll
Speaker 6: pack it up take his ball home too.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 6: So that's why I'm saying, like, this defense has an
Speaker 6: opportunity to not just frustrate these guys. You know, if
Speaker 6: it's gonna be a close game, it's gonna be a
Speaker 6: fourth quarter game, it's gonna be who has the ball
Speaker 6: last kind of game.
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