Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving Nick Great Episode three ninety six.
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Speaker 1: obviously as normally planned. However, this will be a two
Speaker 1: show week, not a three show week. Because of Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: We will have our pick show that will come out Wednesday.
Speaker 1: So Wednesday we will drop our week thirteen picks after
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Speaker 1: With the teasers, we were this close to Were we
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Speaker 1: maybe as early as next week, Demonse could be back
Speaker 1: to the pods, certainly before the stretch run of the
Speaker 1: NFL season, but a ton to do today, and unlike
Speaker 1: last week, the Chiefs are not coming off a devastating,
Speaker 1: heart wrenching, keep me up at night loss, So we
Speaker 1: will start with the Chiefs instead of with the NBA.
Speaker 1: I know that it annoyed some of you last week.
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Speaker 1: Luca not megging old man Kevin Love. Can somebody get
Speaker 1: Kevin Love out of Utah and get him on a
Speaker 1: team that has a pulse? Please? Actually, Utah, to be fair,
Speaker 1: has a bit of a pulse, but on a team
Speaker 1: that could maybe you know, at least he could have
Speaker 1: a little more fun on Jamis has the play of
Speaker 1: the year catching a touchdown pass and the Pistons shout
Speaker 1: out Greg Jennings he needed to win. This week, the
Speaker 1: Pistons match their franchise record win streak at thirteen. A
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Speaker 1: help us out. So we start with the Chiefs saving
Speaker 1: their season, because while they would not have been mathematically eliminated,
Speaker 1: and I probably would have even convinced myself, well, if
Speaker 1: they just go six and zero down the stretch, they'll
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, which what is true, by the way,
Speaker 1: eleven wins almost assuredly will get am Man and five
Speaker 1: and six they would have still been alive. For eleven wins,
Speaker 1: that would have been a season ending loss. Dominating the
Speaker 1: time of possession, dominating the yardage battle, and just not
Speaker 1: making championship plays would have signaled that this Chiefs team
Speaker 1: simply doesn't have the juice of Chiefs teams in years past. Thankfully, however,
Speaker 1: they are the Chiefs. They do still have Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: and Chris Jones and Andy Reid, and despite fumbling inside
Speaker 1: the five yard line while trailing by eleven in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they then played perfect defensive football good but
Speaker 1: not great offensive football, and it was enough to potentially
Speaker 1: derail is probably too strong, but really throw a wrench
Speaker 1: in this magical indie season and give Kansas City a
Speaker 1: chance to in forty eight hours be for the first
Speaker 1: time or just the second time all year two games
Speaker 1: above five hundred really have their head above water and
Speaker 1: be able to have them any by. Take a deep
Speaker 1: breath before a very difficult stretch run of final five games,
Speaker 1: two of which are cupcakes the Titan and the Raiders,
Speaker 1: and three of which are teams fighting for exactly what
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are fighting for, AFC playoff spots and AFC
Speaker 1: playoff seeding with games against the Texans, Chargers, and Broncos.
Speaker 1: So how did they do it? Because right now they
Speaker 1: are still the ten seed. They went into the week
Speaker 1: the nine seed, but they come out of the week
Speaker 1: despite the win the ten seed because every because the
Speaker 1: Texans won, the Chargers were off, the Jags won. We'll
Speaker 1: get to those games later. So how did they do it?
Speaker 1: They did it because the defense absolutely shut down start
Speaker 1: to finish. Jonathan Taylor in one of the most impressive
Speaker 1: defensive performances any team has had all year. They allowed
Speaker 1: twenty but seven of them were on a drive that
Speaker 1: started at the three thanks to Patrick's interception, and so
Speaker 1: to essentially hold the highest scoring, highest yardage, most efficient
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL to thirteen points without forcing a
Speaker 1: turnover is just a remarkable job by that Chiefs defense.
Speaker 1: And for the Colts to have the ball up eleven
Speaker 1: and go run, pass pass, and then have the ball
Speaker 1: up three and go pass, pass pass, and then have
Speaker 1: the ball up three again and go pass pass pass
Speaker 1: before you go to overtime and you go pass run,
Speaker 1: It's just it is a testament to the fact that
Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense was able to convince the Colts by
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of this game, you're simply not going
Speaker 1: to get Jonathan Taylor going. But it also and it
Speaker 1: also was a testament to the fact that the Chiefs defense,
Speaker 1: right or wrong, simply said Daniel Jones, go ahead and
Speaker 1: beat us. We don't think you can, and he couldn't.
Speaker 1: And that gave the Chiefs offense and Patrick just enough
Speaker 1: bites at the apple that they were able to overcome
Speaker 1: a really sloppy game, not just the turnovers, but the
Speaker 1: red zone inefficiency, the missed open guys and the hurky
Speaker 1: jerky name of the offense and Rashi Rice in the
Speaker 1: second half of that game, really, for the first time,
Speaker 1: maybe since his suspension, certainly since his first game back
Speaker 1: from the suspension, looked like the player that we saw
Speaker 1: at the end of his rookie year and the beginning
Speaker 1: of last season before he got injured, which is just
Speaker 1: a dynamic, elite yard after catch player. Xavier Worthy made
Speaker 1: a huge play. Noah freaking Gray made a catch while unconscious,
Speaker 1: which is still one of the more remarkable feats of
Speaker 1: this NFL season, and the Chiefs offense did just enough
Speaker 1: against the Lounarumo Colts defense to where they're now stabilized.
Speaker 1: By the way that is now four consecutive wins by
Speaker 1: Patrick against lou Anarumo, his alleged kryptonite four wins in
Speaker 1: a row. After losing the first three games he faced
Speaker 1: against him, he's now one four straight. But the story
Speaker 1: of the game is the defense. The fact that the
Speaker 1: Colts had thirteen to three and outs all year going
Speaker 1: into that game, which is remarkable, and I don't know
Speaker 1: how many they had total in the game, but I
Speaker 1: do know they had four straight to end the game.
Speaker 1: And Chris Jones, who has been I think it's fair
Speaker 1: to say underwhelming this year. Picked a hell of a
Speaker 1: time to make his biggest impact. And listen, I know
Speaker 1: I was watching the game with Danny, and Danny was
Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about the Chiefs and whether
Speaker 1: or not, you know, I think they have another gear
Speaker 1: and just why I think the offense hasn't looked quite
Speaker 1: as good. And I made the point and this maybe
Speaker 1: this is an excuse, maybe it's a justification, but there's
Speaker 1: just not a lot of comparisons for it. I made
Speaker 1: the point of I do think the Chiefs, and this
Speaker 1: can apply to the coaches and the players have to
Speaker 1: play a different style and a different brand of football
Speaker 1: than every other team in the league because they are
Speaker 1: going on what they hope is their eighth consecutive twenty
Speaker 1: game season and the ability to peek at the end
Speaker 1: of the year, to have your key guys healthy at
Speaker 1: the end of the year, to have enough juice left
Speaker 1: in the tank. And I bring that up with Chris
Speaker 1: because it is totally fair to say Chris Jones has
Speaker 1: not lived up this season to his reputation, to his contract,
Speaker 1: to you know, all of those things. But also, and
Speaker 1: I know this is not apples to oranges. But when
Speaker 1: you see the impact one twenty game, super high usage
Speaker 1: season has on a guy like Saquon Barkley and more
Speaker 1: on him and a bit. And you see the Lions,
Speaker 1: it's like, man, couple really good years and now they
Speaker 1: seem to be scuttling a bit. The Rams, who have
Speaker 1: been unbelievable, had a you know, in the midst of
Speaker 1: from when they won the Super Bowl to right now
Speaker 1: where they are, you know, the Super Bowl favorites, they
Speaker 1: had a year where they won what six games where
Speaker 1: it all came apart for a season, And so listen,
Speaker 1: maybe Chris was just not playing well, or maybe there
Speaker 1: is a level of Man, I'm a thirty something year
Speaker 1: old d tackle that's played the equivalent of eight seasons
Speaker 1: in the last seven and I need to make sure
Speaker 1: I have a gear that I can get to come
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving time. I don't know, I just do know that
Speaker 1: by year eight of the Patriots run, So the Patriots
Speaker 1: initial run one through eight, they had a year in
Speaker 1: there where they missed the playoffs. They had another year
Speaker 1: in there where they lost in round their first playoff game.
Speaker 1: They had another year in there where they lost in
Speaker 1: Round two, and then eight they missed the playoffs entirely
Speaker 1: when Tom gets hurt. Nine to ten are disappointing short
Speaker 1: playoff runs, don't make a conference championship game, and then
Speaker 1: from eleven to eighteen they go on their eight straight
Speaker 1: conference championship appearances, five Super Bowls, three victories, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs have done the five Super Bowls
Speaker 1: three victories in seven years. And by twenty eighteen that
Speaker 1: team was leaking Sam oil. And by twenty nineteen they
Speaker 1: were done, just done, losing to Ryan Tannehill at home
Speaker 1: in the playoffs type of done. And so I just
Speaker 1: I think it's very very difficult to watch the Chiefs
Speaker 1: and determine are they just not as good or you know,
Speaker 1: have have the games caught up to them, or are
Speaker 1: they likely as they have to be fair every other
Speaker 1: year of you know, as this dynasty has gotten to
Speaker 1: year five, six, seven, simply have an extra gear for
Speaker 1: the playoffs and for the late in the season. Now
Speaker 1: for Kansas City, the playoffs really have started. It's not
Speaker 1: single elimination, but it's damn close to double elimination. And
Speaker 1: the Cowboys game is gonna be really hard. I don't
Speaker 1: think the Cowboys defense is quite as good as it
Speaker 1: has looked the last two weeks, but it's obviously improved,
Speaker 1: and that Cowboys offense is exceptional and really good. Pocket
Speaker 1: passing quarterbacks have given Kansas City some trouble as far
Speaker 1: as the inability to get off the field the inability
Speaker 1: to generate a pass rush, so I don't think that
Speaker 1: Cowboys game is anything close to a cinch. However, I
Speaker 1: do think that if both the Cowboys and the Chiefs
Speaker 1: are coming off season saving for the time being, stirring
Speaker 1: home comebacks, and then a very short turnaround to what
Speaker 1: will be the most watched regular season game in the
Speaker 1: history of professional football, Cowboys Chiefs on Thanksgiving, I do
Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are more likely to handle the jubilation
Speaker 1: of the win and the short week and the stage.
Speaker 1: They're more likely to handle that game with professionalism and
Speaker 1: attention that it deserves than Dallas's. And I also think
Speaker 1: that while the Chiefs offense has been uneasy or uneven,
Speaker 1: I should say when they have played bad defenses, they've
Speaker 1: looked exceptional thirty seven on the Ravens, twenty eight and
Speaker 1: should have been thirty eight on the Jags, thirty on
Speaker 1: the Lions, thirty one on the Raiders, twenty eight on
Speaker 1: the Command. Now you can say the Bills have a
Speaker 1: bad defense, but the Bills bad defenses, it's run defense,
Speaker 1: and the Chiefs aren't really built to take advantage of that.
Speaker 1: So should be a great game. Cowboys barely holding on
Speaker 1: to any playoff hope. The Chiefs have real reason for optimism,
Speaker 1: but they gotta win Thursday. But it all would have
Speaker 1: been moot had they lost to the Colts. And the Colts,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, I called them the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four Vikings early in the year, and I'll go ahead
Speaker 1: and stand by that. And I think the Colts. I
Speaker 1: think they'll be fine. But what I do know is
Speaker 1: their final six, and they have my opinion. The Colts
Speaker 1: started looking three weeks ago. They lost to the Steelers.
Speaker 1: They got very fortunate to win against the Falcons in
Speaker 1: Berlin in overtime. They lost to the Chiefs, and now
Speaker 1: they go Texans, Jags, Seahawks, Niners, Jags, Texans. Six straight
Speaker 1: games against teams playing for something, four divisional games, three
Speaker 1: total road games. Colts Colts need need a win on
Speaker 1: Sunday against a Texans defense that's going to be extra
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Speaker 1: All Right, the Eagles blew it against Dallas. There's no
Speaker 1: other way to put it. And the Eagles here is
Speaker 1: my takeaway honestly from that Eagles game. AJ Brown is
Speaker 1: not wrong. There is something wrong with Phillies offense. Philly's
Speaker 1: offense this year has eight halves. They've played twenty four. Obviously, No,
Speaker 1: actually that's not obvious, and I think it's wrong because
Speaker 1: they've already had a buy. So they've played twenty two
Speaker 1: in eight of their twenty two halves, so more than
Speaker 1: a third they have scored seven or fewer points. They
Speaker 1: have three scoreless halves of football. Only the Titans are worse,
Speaker 1: and there are They do not have Saquon to save
Speaker 1: them this year. I know he's on the team, he
Speaker 1: ain't saving them. And this was the most predictable year
Speaker 1: over year decline imaginable. Literally every running back save one
Speaker 1: in NFL history that has had Saquan's type of workload
Speaker 1: last year saw a significant drop the following year. A
Speaker 1: lot of guys that their production dropped by half. That's
Speaker 1: what we're staring at with Saquon. And while the passing
Speaker 1: game at times looks dynamic, they just can't string together
Speaker 1: a whole game. And right or wrong, Siriani consistently shows
Speaker 1: us with his decision making that for some reason or
Speaker 1: another he does not fully trust Jalen and the end
Speaker 1: of the half was bizarre. You have eighteen seconds, you
Speaker 1: have the ball in the thirty and in today's NFL
Speaker 1: you're twenty five yards away from field goal range. We
Speaker 1: know you think Jake Elliott's got a big leg because
Speaker 1: later in the game you was shoot a fourth and
Speaker 1: five attempt to kick a field goal, and Sirianni's explanation
Speaker 1: after the game was, well, the Cowboys kicker is such
Speaker 1: a big leg, we don't want to leave them time.
Speaker 1: There was eighteen seconds. There was no scenario at all
Speaker 1: except for a turnover where the Cowboys were gonna touch
Speaker 1: the ball, much less kick a field goal. Even if
Speaker 1: you just threw four consecutive incomplete passes, that takes eighteen seconds.
Speaker 1: So that didn't make sense. And Philly is obviously in
Speaker 1: good shape because of the division they're in, so they're
Speaker 1: going to be a good seed, they're going to be
Speaker 1: a division champion. They still have three games left against
Speaker 1: the Commanders and Raiders. They're going to finish with a
Speaker 1: gaudy record. I'm not worried, honestly about any of those
Speaker 1: those things. But the flashing siren that's been what is
Speaker 1: up with this offense continues to go off and now
Speaker 1: getting Lane Johnson back. If you get him back in
Speaker 1: a month or so, that should help. But he's only
Speaker 1: been gone one game. And if I'm Philly, here's the
Speaker 1: other thing that I hate about this loss. My path
Speaker 1: to the one seed is now so much trickier. In fact,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look the wild has got me going to
Speaker 1: this is my go to But and I've always kind
Speaker 1: of actually liked this. But I used to use Football
Speaker 1: Outsiders or Aaron Schatz's But the New York Times Playoff
Speaker 1: Predictor they have the Eagles at twenty six percent for
Speaker 1: the one seed, the Rams up to fifty seven percent.
Speaker 1: That's a big deal. The extra playoff game plus not
Speaker 1: having the huge edge of potentially a warm weather contender
Speaker 1: having to come to your building. And right now, the
Speaker 1: you know, projected playoff field of the Eagles being the
Speaker 1: two seed and hosting either the Lions or the Niners.
Speaker 1: I would love either of those spots if I were Philly.
Speaker 1: And by the way, speaking of the Niners, just real quick,
Speaker 1: I have never been proven more right more times than
Speaker 1: every time the Niners trot out either mac Jones or
Speaker 1: Brock Purty or all of last season for what was
Speaker 1: once such a controversial hot button. Take that Brock Party
Speaker 1: is not a force multiplayer and is a Kyle Shanahan
Speaker 1: Niners amazing skill position player creation. The last year seeing
Speaker 1: him without those great players, this year seeing Mac Jones
Speaker 1: outplay him, and then last night seeing him throw three picks.
Speaker 1: It's just every single time. And I know the arguments
Speaker 1: I've won because they start becoming less and less prominent
Speaker 1: on the TV show. I'm like, Okay, the cost of
Speaker 1: being the annoying guy is when you just smoke, You're
Speaker 1: too much more likable co hosts in a multi year argument,
Speaker 1: you just have to you have to take the win,
Speaker 1: but take the win graciously, which I'm not always great at.
Speaker 1: So Philly, I I don't know. And here's the other piece.
Speaker 1: It can't all be on the offensive coordinator in Philly.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Patullo is doing a great job, but
Speaker 1: if he's doing that bad of a job, then Sirianni takeover.
Speaker 1: But you have an offensive minded head coach, you have
Speaker 1: a quarterback that carries himself like Michael Jordan. Figure it out.
Speaker 1: You have too much talent on that offense. That's an
Speaker 1: awful loss. And Dallas on the other hand, I right
Speaker 1: now the Quinn Williams trade is aging great. He's been excellent.
Speaker 1: I was not a fan of that trade. I still
Speaker 1: am not a fan of that trade, but right now
Speaker 1: it is looking really good. But the story for Dallas
Speaker 1: is Dak's been the second best quarterback in the NFL
Speaker 1: this year. It's been Stafford one, Dak two. And it
Speaker 1: is as simple as that. He's been that good. And
Speaker 1: he has a legitimate second team All Pro case. And
Speaker 1: in that game Sunday, he became the Cowboys all time
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Speaker 1: and was named, at least for the time being, the starter.
Speaker 1: I thought it was noteworthy that they said Gabriel is
Speaker 1: cleared concussion protocol, but Shoudor is still the starter. That
Speaker 1: is obviously the right call, and I don't I find
Speaker 1: so much of the Shadore commentary to be disingenuous and
Speaker 1: idiotic that I try not to swim in those waters,
Speaker 1: even though, man oh man, if you are trying, if
Speaker 1: you are basing your Chadore takes off what gets engagement.
Speaker 1: It's it's a very hard flame to avoid. So if
Speaker 1: you just I mean, this is anecdotal, obviously, but yesterday's
Speaker 1: uh First Thing's first clips on Twitter, if I'm just
Speaker 1: looking at it by retweets or comments, see and I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna say what the topics were, but just see
Speaker 1: if you can guess which one was the Shtore topic.
Speaker 1: Number of retweets in comments total on the First Thing's
Speaker 1: First clips from yesterday's show Clip one one hundred and
Speaker 1: ninety nine, Clip two twenty six, Clip three forty four,
Speaker 1: Clip four forty nine, Clip five thirty six, Clip seven
Speaker 1: eighty five, Clip nine thirty three, Clip twelve or clip
Speaker 1: ten sorry thirty two, Clip eleven one thousand, one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty eight, Clip twelve sixty five, Clip thirteen thirty seven,
Speaker 1: Clip fourteen one hundred and seventy two. One of those
Speaker 1: stick out to you, guys, get the people go it,
Speaker 1: And so I also think part of that the reason
Speaker 1: that that commentary has gotten so snake eating its tail
Speaker 1: ish is there are a lot of folks who they're
Speaker 1: only outlet is their social media feed, and so all
Speaker 1: they have to go on is reaction to things they
Speaker 1: put out on social media, and so because of that,
Speaker 1: they they're like, well, this is what people want and
Speaker 1: this is what people have strong opinions on. The Chador
Speaker 1: thing to me is very very simple, and I will
Speaker 1: do it as efficiently as possible. Shardour the player compared
Speaker 1: to Gabriel, and why shoudor should be the starter. There
Speaker 1: is absolutely no chance, none, that Dylan Gabriel is ever
Speaker 1: an above average NFL starter. It would be delightful if
Speaker 1: Dylan proves me wrong. If you know Dylan Gabriel's friends
Speaker 1: or family, see this clip he uses it for motivation,
Speaker 1: grows a few inches and gets a lot better, and
Speaker 1: then you be like, Nick, you idiot, that's fine. I
Speaker 1: think it's zero percent that he's ever an above average
Speaker 1: NFL starter, and I think it's close to zero percent
Speaker 1: that he's ever even just a full time starter. It
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's a bad draft pick. If he can
Speaker 1: just be a competent backup, stop gap quarterback, that's worth
Speaker 1: a third round pick. So that's Gabriel. Shador has just
Speaker 1: enough traits and just enough collegiate pedigree and just enough
Speaker 1: Oh wow, look at that play that. I give him
Speaker 1: a five percent chance five percent one in twenty of
Speaker 1: being a plus starter and a ten to fifteen percent
Speaker 1: chance of being a full time starter for somebody. The
Speaker 1: Browns are otherwise that and that alone is enough to say,
Speaker 1: all right, let's use these last half dozen games to
Speaker 1: see what Shador has before we make massive decisions this
Speaker 1: offseason with our multiple first round picks. So in that regard,
Speaker 1: I I greatly prefer Schador to Gabriel for the Browns
Speaker 1: right now, with what they're trying to do. Let's take one,
Speaker 1: take two. What did I think of Shador's game? I
Speaker 1: thought it was fine. He had one really nice chunk
Speaker 1: play over the middle, another potentially really nice chunk play
Speaker 1: to Jerry Judy that was a really nice chunk play
Speaker 1: until Judy started celebrating early and fumbled. He had one
Speaker 1: grisly interception and then two swing passes, one of which
Speaker 1: went for a sixty yard touchdown, the other of which
Speaker 1: damn near got the Raiders back in the game. A
Speaker 1: bit of a mixed bag, and he was fine, but
Speaker 1: that being fine was the most important thing. What he
Speaker 1: couldn't be was awful or in way over his skis,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't, and so that's positive. And then there
Speaker 1: is the third point, which is Schador's disposition or personality
Speaker 1: or comments before and after the game. And I don't
Speaker 1: think that Shadoor means any harm. And I do think
Speaker 1: he is a very likable guy and from all accounts,
Speaker 1: a really good guy. And I think he is handled
Speaker 1: growing up very rich and very famous better than most
Speaker 1: young people would. I believe that. I also think that
Speaker 1: while I always encourage confidence, particularly in athletes, particularly and
Speaker 1: guys that want to be starting quarterbacks, some of Shadour's
Speaker 1: comments have butted up against what I believe to be
Speaker 1: and maybe you'll prove me wrong. Delusion. So Shadoor really
Speaker 1: harping on, imagine what it'll look like when I have
Speaker 1: a full off season. Imagine what it will look like
Speaker 1: when I have all the practice reps. Assumes to get
Speaker 1: a little litigious for a moment, some facts not in evidence,
Speaker 1: most notably that at any point in the near or
Speaker 1: even distant future, but certainly near future, that you're going
Speaker 1: to be a team's unquestioned starter, which the only way
Speaker 1: you're getting all the off season reps, all the practice
Speaker 1: reps is if you are the unequivocal QB one for
Speaker 1: a team. And I do not think that Shadoor is
Speaker 1: on the doorstep of that. And I also think if
Speaker 1: I had to crystal ball it and say ten years out,
Speaker 1: is it more likely or than not that there will
Speaker 1: ever be a season where Shadoor is simply a team's incumbent,
Speaker 1: un no competition involved starting quarterback. I don't think that's
Speaker 1: going to happen chardor clearly does, and good for him
Speaker 1: for believing it. I I don't. It's not that I
Speaker 1: didn't like the common he made before and after the
Speaker 1: game because I thought they were arrogant. I didn't like
Speaker 1: the comments he made because I thought he it showed
Speaker 1: that he hasn't come to grips with where he is
Speaker 1: in the NFL quarterback hierarchy. So like, unless he just
Speaker 1: absolutely balls out in a way that would be truly
Speaker 1: unprecedented for a fifth round rookie and would be top
Speaker 1: five percentile for any rookie of any round at that
Speaker 1: position over the final six weeks, he is not going
Speaker 1: to enter next year as the clear cut starter for
Speaker 1: any team. And it is going to take a some
Speaker 1: really special performances over this last six weeks for the
Speaker 1: Browns to decide we are not spending a first round
Speaker 1: pick on a quarterback next year, and we are not
Speaker 1: trading for Kyler Murray or bringing in you know, this
Speaker 1: year's version of Daniel Jones, whatever it is. And so
Speaker 1: I I, while I find Shador's biggest detractors to be
Speaker 1: typically bad people, and I find Shudore's biggest supporters to
Speaker 1: be typically very annoying people, I am rooting for him,
Speaker 1: but I think, I mean, we'll see all these this
Speaker 1: next month goes. But I I think that he would
Speaker 1: serve himself well, if at least internally and psychologically. He
Speaker 1: reset his own personal expectations to where man next year,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go into camp as the clear cut
Speaker 1: number two somewhere, and then maybe by year three there
Speaker 1: I will be able to compete eat for a starting
Speaker 1: job somewhere. That to me is a far more realistic
Speaker 1: and achievable path than imagine when I'm getting all the
Speaker 1: reps as the starter, buddy, I don't know that that's
Speaker 1: happening ever. And then, of course, the story of the
Speaker 1: game was the ten sacks from the Browns. I listen,
Speaker 1: I said that I thought Miles Garrett might break the
Speaker 1: sack record against the Raiders in their effort to make
Speaker 1: sure he didn't. Everyone else you know it got gino.
Speaker 1: He had three. He's gonna break the record. And I
Speaker 1: the fact that he's only minus eight point fifty for
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year surprises me. I think there's
Speaker 1: I actually think there is value in that because I
Speaker 1: think he could get hurt next week and still win it,
Speaker 1: all right. The other news of the weekend was John
Speaker 1: Morant calling Klay Thompson a bum. And they're back and forth,
Speaker 1: and I have two takes here before we get to
Speaker 1: the other NFL games that we'll do in quick hit
Speaker 1: or fashion. Take one is this if you think John
Speaker 1: Morant was a better player than Klay Thompson. I don't
Speaker 1: respect your basketball opinion. It's an IQ. It's a basketball
Speaker 1: IQ test. First of all, I'm not the only way
Speaker 1: you could have that opinion is if you're basically being like,
Speaker 1: who would win a one on one game? And I'm
Speaker 1: not certain that peak Jaw against peak Clay that Peak
Speaker 1: would win. He probably would because of the athleticism, but
Speaker 1: Clay's defense, shooting, and size would have him right there.
Speaker 1: But there is but who gives a shit? Who would
Speaker 1: win a one on one game? Klay Thompson was the
Speaker 1: more complete player, obviously, the more mature player, understood how
Speaker 1: to play winning basketball, was the better teammate all of
Speaker 1: the above. So that's just about the the the children
Speaker 1: and fools on the internet that are like, well, Jah
Speaker 1: has a point, You guys don't know what you're watching.
Speaker 1: The second point is this, we are approaching Defcon one
Speaker 1: for Jaz's career in a way, I cannot remember a
Speaker 1: player his caliber because he was a great player, great player.
Speaker 1: That the only guys who have his caliber who have
Speaker 1: blown it up like this, like he appears to be
Speaker 1: trying to do it was because of drugs or injury,
Speaker 1: Like this is a clumsy cump, but I'll stand by it.
Speaker 1: He is barreling towards a poor man's version of the
Speaker 1: Derek Rose trajectory, except it'd be instead of blowing out
Speaker 1: your knee. You're just an asshole like Derek Rowe, who
Speaker 1: won an MVP, by the way, who made a conference finals,
Speaker 1: who was on a sixty win team.
Speaker 2: It it his career got derailed because he blew his
Speaker 2: knee out, and before he blew his knee out, ran
Speaker 2: into Lebron at his apex.
Speaker 1: Jaws. Just being a fool, and it's a damn shame.
Speaker 1: And I don't know that I have much of a
Speaker 1: comp for it. Across sports, usually drugs or injury. This
Speaker 1: is neither. This is rank immaturity. All right, let me
Speaker 1: quickly get to these other games and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: we'll do our pick show tomorrow. Rams beat the Bucks,
Speaker 1: Baker's injured, My beloved Bucks are in tro and Stafford
Speaker 1: has won MVP. I mean, it's too early to say
Speaker 1: he's one MVP. It would be shocking if he doesn't
Speaker 1: win MVP. I don't know what those odds are, but
Speaker 1: right now I would if you could do it. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if our friends at hard Rock Bet allow this,
Speaker 1: but if you could parlay Stafford MVP plus Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year and get you know, plus
Speaker 1: anything on it, I'd like that a lot. Patriots beat
Speaker 1: the Bengals in one of the Patriots least impressive games
Speaker 1: of the year and only scoring nineteen on that Bengals
Speaker 1: defense not great. You might be like, well, they won
Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty. There was a May pick six
Speaker 1: and the later there was a Flacco pick six the
Speaker 1: Bengals man, I'd be so Jamar Chase had a very
Speaker 1: nice apology letter that seems sincere, but I'd be so
Speaker 1: mad at Jamar Chase farvar a Bengals fan, because I
Speaker 1: think they can win that game if he's there, and
Speaker 1: then you're four and seven about to play the Ravens
Speaker 1: and potentially just be a game out of the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Packers beat the Vikings twenty three to six. JJ McCarthy
Speaker 1: legitimately might be the single worst player in the entire NFL.
Speaker 1: Packers defense is unbelievable. Packers offense still a little shaky
Speaker 1: and Lions beat the Giants in a bad win. Great
Speaker 1: job by Jamar Jamier Gibbs. Jamis probably should have been
Speaker 1: the Giants starter week one, not Russell Wilson, and Jamis
Speaker 1: should be a starter somewhere next year. But the Vikings
Speaker 1: they might. You know, the last time a super high
Speaker 1: first round pick only got one year was Josh Rose
Speaker 1: and his team replaced him with Kyler Murray. That's the
Speaker 1: last time this happened. It might happen again getting only
Speaker 1: one year because he didn't play last year, because he
Speaker 1: might get replaced by Kyler Murray again, because he could
Speaker 1: Kyler could go to the Vikings the other quick hitters.
Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, we talked about a bit the Panthers.
Speaker 1: Good job, good effort on the season. You were competitive,
Speaker 1: but you're done. And the Niners are frisky. As long
Speaker 1: as Christian McCaffrey's healthy and Kyle Shanan's calling plays and
Speaker 1: Bob Solo is calling the defense, they're frisky. Purdy is
Speaker 1: concerning the Oh we didn't talk about Texans bills and listen,
Speaker 1: I know how we all know the rules. Guys. When
Speaker 1: Josh Allen's great, he's the most talented quarterback ever, and
Speaker 1: when he's bad, it's Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott's fault
Speaker 1: bad against the Texans. That that Texans defense is also ferocious,
Speaker 1: and that's another that's a scary team down the stretch
Speaker 1: with the defense playing that way. Seahawks beat the Titans
Speaker 1: thirty to twenty four in a game that was not
Speaker 1: nearly that close. Cam Ward actually played well. I thought
Speaker 1: that was one of the better cam Ward games of
Speaker 1: the year. Seahawks had full control, Jackson Smith and Jigba
Speaker 1: maybe stealing the offensive Player of the Year from Jonathan Taylor. Possibly.
Speaker 1: Ravens beat the Jets twenty three to ten and a
Speaker 1: game the Jets were in a ridiculous fourth down call
Speaker 1: by Aaron Glenn when the Ravens offense had done nothing,
Speaker 1: combined with a Breezehall fumble, made it to where the Jets,
Speaker 1: you know, squandered where what could have been a close
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Something's wrong with the Ravens offense. And Lamar
Speaker 1: has him been Lamar Bears beat the Steelers. I knew
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was idiotic for him to play. He didn't play.
Speaker 1: Steelers scored twenty eight twenty one on offense seven because
Speaker 1: of a terrible Caleb fumble and the Bears get to
Speaker 1: eight and three. Jags beat the Cardinals twenty seven to
Speaker 1: twenty four in a game that I don't want to
Speaker 1: talk about for two reasons. One is Trevor was terrible,
Speaker 1: but more importantly I I don't want to get into
Speaker 1: the full details of this, but had the Cardinals won
Speaker 1: that game, I would have won thirty four thousand dollars,
Speaker 1: and watching how that game ended was difficult to deal with.
Speaker 1: God that that's still a little pit. I didn't lose all,
Speaker 1: I lost less than a grand, but I add I
Speaker 1: did a very foolish multi leg moneyline parlay that when
Speaker 1: that game went to overtime, every other leg was already
Speaker 1: in and you guys know, I'm on team never ever
Speaker 1: cash out under any circumstances. So we let that sucker
Speaker 1: ride and that was a painful one. Falcons beat the
Speaker 1: Saints twenty four to ten in a game I didn't
Speaker 1: watch one second of. So that covers Week twelve in
Speaker 1: the NFL. We will do our pick show that will
Speaker 1: air tomorrow, so be on the lookout for that. Like
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