1 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:05,960 Speaker 1: Welcome in What Driving Nick Great Episode three ninety six. 2 00:00:06,080 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: This episode, as always, is presented to you by our 3 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: friends at Boost Mobile on this holiday week, So a 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: little bit of a different schedule this week. Today's show 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: obviously as normally planned. However, this will be a two 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,160 Speaker 1: show week, not a three show week. Because of Thanksgiving. 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: We will have our pick show that will come out Wednesday. 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: So Wednesday we will drop our week thirteen picks after 9 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: a very successful Week twelve pick show that got us 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 1: above five hundred on the year, demands back to five hundred. 11 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: With the teasers, we were this close to Were we 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: this close to a three and oh weekend? I think 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: we were. I'm gonna double check. Uh yeah, I mean 14 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: this close to a three and oh weekend or a 15 00:00:56,200 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: five and oh weekend. Pardon me? We ended three one 16 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: and one. We'll discuss that on the PIC show. Demonse's 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: teaser covered easily. So all that coming to you Wednesday, 18 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: and I will be flying out on Wednesday to Los 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: Angeles and to see Demanse, to see baby Mila, and 20 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: maybe as early as next week, Demonse could be back 21 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: to the pods, certainly before the stretch run of the 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: NFL season, but a ton to do today, and unlike 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: last week, the Chiefs are not coming off a devastating, 24 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 1: heart wrenching, keep me up at night loss, So we 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: will start with the Chiefs instead of with the NBA. 26 00:01:37,040 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: I know that it annoyed some of you last week. 27 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: I want to make this clear. It's totally legitimate that 28 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 1: it annoyed some of you last week. It would have 29 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: annoyed me too. But you know what to my damn 30 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: show Straight to voicemail brought to you by boost Mobile. 31 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: Luca not megging old man Kevin Love. Can somebody get 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 1: Kevin Love out of Utah and get him on a 33 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: team that has a pulse? Please? Actually, Utah, to be fair, 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 1: has a bit of a pulse, but on a team 35 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: that could maybe you know, at least he could have 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: a little more fun on Jamis has the play of 37 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: the year catching a touchdown pass and the Pistons shout 38 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: out Greg Jennings he needed to win. This week, the 39 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: Pistons match their franchise record win streak at thirteen. A 40 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: remindered all of you in this holiday season, the single 41 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: best gift you can give us is subscribing to the show, 42 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: whether that be on YouTube, iTunes, Spotify. 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So we start with the Chiefs saving 48 00:02:52,600 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: their season, because while they would not have been mathematically eliminated, 49 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: and I probably would have even convinced myself, well, if 50 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: they just go six and zero down the stretch, they'll 51 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, which what is true, by the way, 52 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: eleven wins almost assuredly will get am Man and five 53 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: and six they would have still been alive. For eleven wins, 54 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 1: that would have been a season ending loss. Dominating the 55 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:32,480 Speaker 1: time of possession, dominating the yardage battle, and just not 56 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: making championship plays would have signaled that this Chiefs team 57 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: simply doesn't have the juice of Chiefs teams in years past. Thankfully, however, 58 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 1: they are the Chiefs. They do still have Patrick Mahomes 59 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: and Chris Jones and Andy Reid, and despite fumbling inside 60 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: the five yard line while trailing by eleven in the 61 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: fourth quarter, they then played perfect defensive football good but 62 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 1: not great offensive football, and it was enough to potentially 63 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: derail is probably too strong, but really throw a wrench 64 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 1: in this magical indie season and give Kansas City a 65 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: chance to in forty eight hours be for the first 66 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 1: time or just the second time all year two games 67 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: above five hundred really have their head above water and 68 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 1: be able to have them any by. Take a deep 69 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: breath before a very difficult stretch run of final five games, 70 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: two of which are cupcakes the Titan and the Raiders, 71 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: and three of which are teams fighting for exactly what 72 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs are fighting for, AFC playoff spots and AFC 73 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 1: playoff seeding with games against the Texans, Chargers, and Broncos. 74 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: So how did they do it? Because right now they 75 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: are still the ten seed. They went into the week 76 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: the nine seed, but they come out of the week 77 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 1: despite the win the ten seed because every because the 78 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: Texans won, the Chargers were off, the Jags won. We'll 79 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:35,720 Speaker 1: get to those games later. So how did they do it? 80 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: They did it because the defense absolutely shut down start 81 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 1: to finish. Jonathan Taylor in one of the most impressive 82 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: defensive performances any team has had all year. They allowed 83 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: twenty but seven of them were on a drive that 84 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: started at the three thanks to Patrick's interception, and so 85 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: to essentially hold the highest scoring, highest yardage, most efficient 86 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: offense in the NFL to thirteen points without forcing a 87 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: turnover is just a remarkable job by that Chiefs defense. 88 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: And for the Colts to have the ball up eleven 89 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: and go run, pass pass, and then have the ball 90 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: up three and go pass, pass pass, and then have 91 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: the ball up three again and go pass pass pass 92 00:06:54,200 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: before you go to overtime and you go pass run, 93 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 1: It's just it is a testament to the fact that 94 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: the Chiefs defense was able to convince the Colts by 95 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of this game, you're simply not going 96 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: to get Jonathan Taylor going. But it also and it 97 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: also was a testament to the fact that the Chiefs defense, 98 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: right or wrong, simply said Daniel Jones, go ahead and 99 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: beat us. We don't think you can, and he couldn't. 100 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: And that gave the Chiefs offense and Patrick just enough 101 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: bites at the apple that they were able to overcome 102 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: a really sloppy game, not just the turnovers, but the 103 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: red zone inefficiency, the missed open guys and the hurky 104 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: jerky name of the offense and Rashi Rice in the 105 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: second half of that game, really, for the first time, 106 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: maybe since his suspension, certainly since his first game back 107 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: from the suspension, looked like the player that we saw 108 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 1: at the end of his rookie year and the beginning 109 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: of last season before he got injured, which is just 110 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: a dynamic, elite yard after catch player. Xavier Worthy made 111 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 1: a huge play. Noah freaking Gray made a catch while unconscious, 112 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: which is still one of the more remarkable feats of 113 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: this NFL season, and the Chiefs offense did just enough 114 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: against the Lounarumo Colts defense to where they're now stabilized. 115 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 1: By the way that is now four consecutive wins by 116 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: Patrick against lou Anarumo, his alleged kryptonite four wins in 117 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: a row. After losing the first three games he faced 118 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: against him, he's now one four straight. But the story 119 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,839 Speaker 1: of the game is the defense. The fact that the 120 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: Colts had thirteen to three and outs all year going 121 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: into that game, which is remarkable, and I don't know 122 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: how many they had total in the game, but I 123 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: do know they had four straight to end the game. 124 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 1: And Chris Jones, who has been I think it's fair 125 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: to say underwhelming this year. Picked a hell of a 126 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: time to make his biggest impact. And listen, I know 127 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: I was watching the game with Danny, and Danny was 128 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about the Chiefs and whether 129 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,199 Speaker 1: or not, you know, I think they have another gear 130 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: and just why I think the offense hasn't looked quite 131 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: as good. And I made the point and this maybe 132 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: this is an excuse, maybe it's a justification, but there's 133 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:38,680 Speaker 1: just not a lot of comparisons for it. I made 134 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: the point of I do think the Chiefs, and this 135 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: can apply to the coaches and the players have to 136 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 1: play a different style and a different brand of football 137 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: than every other team in the league because they are 138 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: going on what they hope is their eighth consecutive twenty 139 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: game season and the ability to peek at the end 140 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: of the year, to have your key guys healthy at 141 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: the end of the year, to have enough juice left 142 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: in the tank. And I bring that up with Chris 143 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:25,560 Speaker 1: because it is totally fair to say Chris Jones has 144 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: not lived up this season to his reputation, to his contract, 145 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 1: to you know, all of those things. But also, and 146 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 1: I know this is not apples to oranges. But when 147 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: you see the impact one twenty game, super high usage 148 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: season has on a guy like Saquon Barkley and more 149 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: on him and a bit. And you see the Lions, 150 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:57,600 Speaker 1: it's like, man, couple really good years and now they 151 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: seem to be scuttling a bit. The Rams, who have 152 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: been unbelievable, had a you know, in the midst of 153 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: from when they won the Super Bowl to right now 154 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: where they are, you know, the Super Bowl favorites, they 155 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 1: had a year where they won what six games where 156 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: it all came apart for a season, And so listen, 157 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: maybe Chris was just not playing well, or maybe there 158 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,520 Speaker 1: is a level of Man, I'm a thirty something year 159 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 1: old d tackle that's played the equivalent of eight seasons 160 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: in the last seven and I need to make sure 161 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: I have a gear that I can get to come 162 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving time. I don't know, I just do know that 163 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: by year eight of the Patriots run, So the Patriots 164 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: initial run one through eight, they had a year in 165 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 1: there where they missed the playoffs. They had another year 166 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 1: in there where they lost in round their first playoff game. 167 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 1: They had another year in there where they lost in 168 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: Round two, and then eight they missed the playoffs entirely 169 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: when Tom gets hurt. Nine to ten are disappointing short 170 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 1: playoff runs, don't make a conference championship game, and then 171 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: from eleven to eighteen they go on their eight straight 172 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:49,840 Speaker 1: conference championship appearances, five Super Bowls, three victories, which is, 173 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: you know, the Chiefs have done the five Super Bowls 174 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: three victories in seven years. And by twenty eighteen that 175 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 1: team was leaking Sam oil. And by twenty nineteen they 176 00:14:05,559 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: were done, just done, losing to Ryan Tannehill at home 177 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: in the playoffs type of done. And so I just 178 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: I think it's very very difficult to watch the Chiefs 179 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: and determine are they just not as good or you know, 180 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: have have the games caught up to them, or are 181 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: they likely as they have to be fair every other 182 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: year of you know, as this dynasty has gotten to 183 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: year five, six, seven, simply have an extra gear for 184 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: the playoffs and for the late in the season. Now 185 00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: for Kansas City, the playoffs really have started. It's not 186 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: single elimination, but it's damn close to double elimination. And 187 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: the Cowboys game is gonna be really hard. I don't 188 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: think the Cowboys defense is quite as good as it 189 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,720 Speaker 1: has looked the last two weeks, but it's obviously improved, 190 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: and that Cowboys offense is exceptional and really good. Pocket 191 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: passing quarterbacks have given Kansas City some trouble as far 192 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 1: as the inability to get off the field the inability 193 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: to generate a pass rush, so I don't think that 194 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: Cowboys game is anything close to a cinch. However, I 195 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: do think that if both the Cowboys and the Chiefs 196 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 1: are coming off season saving for the time being, stirring 197 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: home comebacks, and then a very short turnaround to what 198 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: will be the most watched regular season game in the 199 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: history of professional football, Cowboys Chiefs on Thanksgiving, I do 200 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: think the Chiefs are more likely to handle the jubilation 201 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: of the win and the short week and the stage. 202 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:27,560 Speaker 1: They're more likely to handle that game with professionalism and 203 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: attention that it deserves than Dallas's. And I also think 204 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: that while the Chiefs offense has been uneasy or uneven, 205 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: I should say when they have played bad defenses, they've 206 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: looked exceptional thirty seven on the Ravens, twenty eight and 207 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: should have been thirty eight on the Jags, thirty on 208 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: the Lions, thirty one on the Raiders, twenty eight on 209 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: the Command. Now you can say the Bills have a 210 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,640 Speaker 1: bad defense, but the Bills bad defenses, it's run defense, 211 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: and the Chiefs aren't really built to take advantage of that. 212 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: So should be a great game. Cowboys barely holding on 213 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: to any playoff hope. The Chiefs have real reason for optimism, 214 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,399 Speaker 1: but they gotta win Thursday. But it all would have 215 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: been moot had they lost to the Colts. And the Colts, 216 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 1: on the other hand, I called them the twenty twenty 217 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: four Vikings early in the year, and I'll go ahead 218 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: and stand by that. And I think the Colts. I 219 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:52,959 Speaker 1: think they'll be fine. But what I do know is 220 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: their final six, and they have my opinion. The Colts 221 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: started looking three weeks ago. They lost to the Steelers. 222 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 1: They got very fortunate to win against the Falcons in 223 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:15,400 Speaker 1: Berlin in overtime. 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Obviously, No, 268 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: actually that's not obvious, and I think it's wrong because 269 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,280 Speaker 1: they've already had a buy. So they've played twenty two 270 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,719 Speaker 1: in eight of their twenty two halves, so more than 271 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 1: a third they have scored seven or fewer points. They 272 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: have three scoreless halves of football. Only the Titans are worse, 273 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: and there are They do not have Saquon to save 274 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: them this year. I know he's on the team, he 275 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: ain't saving them. And this was the most predictable year 276 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: over year decline imaginable. Literally every running back save one 277 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: in NFL history that has had Saquan's type of workload 278 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: last year saw a significant drop the following year. A 279 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: lot of guys that their production dropped by half. That's 280 00:22:29,080 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 1: what we're staring at with Saquon. And while the passing 281 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: game at times looks dynamic, they just can't string together 282 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: a whole game. And right or wrong, Siriani consistently shows 283 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: us with his decision making that for some reason or 284 00:22:55,200 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: another he does not fully trust Jalen and the end 285 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: of the half was bizarre. You have eighteen seconds, you 286 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 1: have the ball in the thirty and in today's NFL 287 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: you're twenty five yards away from field goal range. We 288 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 1: know you think Jake Elliott's got a big leg because 289 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 1: later in the game you was shoot a fourth and 290 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: five attempt to kick a field goal, and Sirianni's explanation 291 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: after the game was, well, the Cowboys kicker is such 292 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: a big leg, we don't want to leave them time. 293 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 1: There was eighteen seconds. There was no scenario at all 294 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: except for a turnover where the Cowboys were gonna touch 295 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: the ball, much less kick a field goal. Even if 296 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: you just threw four consecutive incomplete passes, that takes eighteen seconds. 297 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,479 Speaker 1: So that didn't make sense. And Philly is obviously in 298 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: good shape because of the division they're in, so they're 299 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: going to be a good seed, they're going to be 300 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: a division champion. They still have three games left against 301 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: the Commanders and Raiders. They're going to finish with a 302 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: gaudy record. I'm not worried, honestly about any of those 303 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: those things. But the flashing siren that's been what is 304 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:40,960 Speaker 1: up with this offense continues to go off and now 305 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: getting Lane Johnson back. If you get him back in 306 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: a month or so, that should help. But he's only 307 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: been gone one game. And if I'm Philly, here's the 308 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: other thing that I hate about this loss. My path 309 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,680 Speaker 1: to the one seed is now so much trickier. In fact, 310 00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna look the wild has got me going to 311 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: this is my go to But and I've always kind 312 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: of actually liked this. But I used to use Football 313 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: Outsiders or Aaron Schatz's But the New York Times Playoff 314 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: Predictor they have the Eagles at twenty six percent for 315 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: the one seed, the Rams up to fifty seven percent. 316 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:43,119 Speaker 1: That's a big deal. The extra playoff game plus not 317 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:48,840 Speaker 1: having the huge edge of potentially a warm weather contender 318 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:54,359 Speaker 1: having to come to your building. And right now, the 319 00:25:54,960 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: you know, projected playoff field of the Eagles being the 320 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: two seed and hosting either the Lions or the Niners. 321 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 1: I would love either of those spots if I were Philly. 322 00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, speaking of the Niners, just real quick, 323 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: I have never been proven more right more times than 324 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,919 Speaker 1: every time the Niners trot out either mac Jones or 325 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,919 Speaker 1: Brock Purty or all of last season for what was 326 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: once such a controversial hot button. Take that Brock Party 327 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: is not a force multiplayer and is a Kyle Shanahan 328 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: Niners amazing skill position player creation. The last year seeing 329 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 1: him without those great players, this year seeing Mac Jones 330 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,160 Speaker 1: outplay him, and then last night seeing him throw three picks. 331 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 1: It's just every single time. And I know the arguments 332 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: I've won because they start becoming less and less prominent 333 00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:15,959 Speaker 1: on the TV show. I'm like, Okay, the cost of 334 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: being the annoying guy is when you just smoke, You're 335 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: too much more likable co hosts in a multi year argument, 336 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: you just have to you have to take the win, 337 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: but take the win graciously, which I'm not always great at. 338 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 1: So Philly, I I don't know. And here's the other piece. 339 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: It can't all be on the offensive coordinator in Philly. 340 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Patullo is doing a great job, but 341 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 1: if he's doing that bad of a job, then Sirianni takeover. 342 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: But you have an offensive minded head coach, you have 343 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback that carries himself like Michael Jordan. Figure it out. 344 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,960 Speaker 1: You have too much talent on that offense. That's an 345 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 1: awful loss. And Dallas on the other hand, I right 346 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: now the Quinn Williams trade is aging great. He's been excellent. 347 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: I was not a fan of that trade. I still 348 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 1: am not a fan of that trade, but right now 349 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 1: it is looking really good. But the story for Dallas 350 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: is Dak's been the second best quarterback in the NFL 351 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: this year. It's been Stafford one, Dak two. And it 352 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: is as simple as that. He's been that good. And 353 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: he has a legitimate second team All Pro case. And 354 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: in that game Sunday, he became the Cowboys all time 355 00:28:55,120 --> 00:29:00,680 Speaker 1: leading passer, which sounds about right. Hey, guys, you ever 356 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 1: notice how everything keeps going up? Rents going up, streaming 357 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: services are going up. 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Customers will pay twenty five dollars 367 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: per month as long as they remain active on the 368 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: Boost Unlimited plan. All right, Shure Sanders got the win 369 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: and was named, at least for the time being, the starter. 370 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: I thought it was noteworthy that they said Gabriel is 371 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: cleared concussion protocol, but Shoudor is still the starter. That 372 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: is obviously the right call, and I don't I find 373 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 1: so much of the Shadore commentary to be disingenuous and 374 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: idiotic that I try not to swim in those waters, 375 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: even though, man oh man, if you are trying, if 376 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: you are basing your Chadore takes off what gets engagement. 377 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: It's it's a very hard flame to avoid. So if 378 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: you just I mean, this is anecdotal, obviously, but yesterday's 379 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: uh First Thing's first clips on Twitter, if I'm just 380 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: looking at it by retweets or comments, see and I'm 381 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,400 Speaker 1: not gonna say what the topics were, but just see 382 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: if you can guess which one was the Shtore topic. 383 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: Number of retweets in comments total on the First Thing's 384 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: First clips from yesterday's show Clip one one hundred and 385 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine, Clip two twenty six, Clip three forty four, 386 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 1: Clip four forty nine, Clip five thirty six, Clip seven 387 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: eighty five, Clip nine thirty three, Clip twelve or clip 388 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:44,040 Speaker 1: ten sorry thirty two, Clip eleven one thousand, one hundred 389 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: and fifty eight, Clip twelve sixty five, Clip thirteen thirty seven, 390 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Clip fourteen one hundred and seventy two. One of those 391 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: stick out to you, guys, get the people go it, 392 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: And so I also think part of that the reason 393 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: that that commentary has gotten so snake eating its tail 394 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: ish is there are a lot of folks who they're 395 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: only outlet is their social media feed, and so all 396 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: they have to go on is reaction to things they 397 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: put out on social media, and so because of that, 398 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 1: they they're like, well, this is what people want and 399 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: this is what people have strong opinions on. The Chador 400 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 1: thing to me is very very simple, and I will 401 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 1: do it as efficiently as possible. Shardour the player compared 402 00:32:53,480 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: to Gabriel, and why shoudor should be the starter. There 403 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: is absolutely no chance, none, that Dylan Gabriel is ever 404 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:13,680 Speaker 1: an above average NFL starter. It would be delightful if 405 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: Dylan proves me wrong. If you know Dylan Gabriel's friends 406 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: or family, see this clip he uses it for motivation, 407 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: grows a few inches and gets a lot better, and 408 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 1: then you be like, Nick, you idiot, that's fine. I 409 00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 1: think it's zero percent that he's ever an above average 410 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,200 Speaker 1: NFL starter, and I think it's close to zero percent 411 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: that he's ever even just a full time starter. It 412 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's a bad draft pick. If he can 413 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,920 Speaker 1: just be a competent backup, stop gap quarterback, that's worth 414 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,840 Speaker 1: a third round pick. So that's Gabriel. Shador has just 415 00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: enough traits and just enough collegiate pedigree and just enough 416 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 1: Oh wow, look at that play that. I give him 417 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:05,760 Speaker 1: a five percent chance five percent one in twenty of 418 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 1: being a plus starter and a ten to fifteen percent 419 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 1: chance of being a full time starter for somebody. The 420 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 1: Browns are otherwise that and that alone is enough to say, 421 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,480 Speaker 1: all right, let's use these last half dozen games to 422 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: see what Shador has before we make massive decisions this 423 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: offseason with our multiple first round picks. So in that regard, 424 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: I I greatly prefer Schador to Gabriel for the Browns 425 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 1: right now, with what they're trying to do. Let's take one, 426 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: take two. What did I think of Shador's game? I 427 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: thought it was fine. He had one really nice chunk 428 00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,919 Speaker 1: play over the middle, another potentially really nice chunk play 429 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: to Jerry Judy that was a really nice chunk play 430 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 1: until Judy started celebrating early and fumbled. He had one 431 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: grisly interception and then two swing passes, one of which 432 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: went for a sixty yard touchdown, the other of which 433 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,839 Speaker 1: damn near got the Raiders back in the game. A 434 00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: bit of a mixed bag, and he was fine, but 435 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 1: that being fine was the most important thing. What he 436 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 1: couldn't be was awful or in way over his skis, 437 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: and he wasn't, and so that's positive. And then there 438 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: is the third point, which is Schador's disposition or personality 439 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: or comments before and after the game. And I don't 440 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:11,800 Speaker 1: think that Shadoor means any harm. And I do think 441 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 1: he is a very likable guy and from all accounts, 442 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: a really good guy. And I think he is handled 443 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,760 Speaker 1: growing up very rich and very famous better than most 444 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: young people would. I believe that. I also think that 445 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: while I always encourage confidence, particularly in athletes, particularly and 446 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: guys that want to be starting quarterbacks, some of Shadour's 447 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: comments have butted up against what I believe to be 448 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: and maybe you'll prove me wrong. Delusion. So Shadoor really 449 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: harping on, imagine what it'll look like when I have 450 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: a full off season. Imagine what it will look like 451 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,080 Speaker 1: when I have all the practice reps. Assumes to get 452 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:29,680 Speaker 1: a little litigious for a moment, some facts not in evidence, 453 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:37,759 Speaker 1: most notably that at any point in the near or 454 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: even distant future, but certainly near future, that you're going 455 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,280 Speaker 1: to be a team's unquestioned starter, which the only way 456 00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: you're getting all the off season reps, all the practice 457 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: reps is if you are the unequivocal QB one for 458 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: a team. And I do not think that Shadoor is 459 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 1: on the doorstep of that. And I also think if 460 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: I had to crystal ball it and say ten years out, 461 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 1: is it more likely or than not that there will 462 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: ever be a season where Shadoor is simply a team's incumbent, 463 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: un no competition involved starting quarterback. I don't think that's 464 00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:49,279 Speaker 1: going to happen chardor clearly does, and good for him 465 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:58,359 Speaker 1: for believing it. I I don't. It's not that I 466 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: didn't like the common he made before and after the 467 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: game because I thought they were arrogant. I didn't like 468 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,080 Speaker 1: the comments he made because I thought he it showed 469 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 1: that he hasn't come to grips with where he is 470 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 1: in the NFL quarterback hierarchy. So like, unless he just 471 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:43,800 Speaker 1: absolutely balls out in a way that would be truly 472 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:51,720 Speaker 1: unprecedented for a fifth round rookie and would be top 473 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 1: five percentile for any rookie of any round at that 474 00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 1: position over the final six weeks, he is not going 475 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: to enter next year as the clear cut starter for 476 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:17,000 Speaker 1: any team. And it is going to take a some 477 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:26,680 Speaker 1: really special performances over this last six weeks for the 478 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,520 Speaker 1: Browns to decide we are not spending a first round 479 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:34,840 Speaker 1: pick on a quarterback next year, and we are not 480 00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:40,399 Speaker 1: trading for Kyler Murray or bringing in you know, this 481 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:45,120 Speaker 1: year's version of Daniel Jones, whatever it is. And so 482 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: I I, while I find Shador's biggest detractors to be 483 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 1: typically bad people, and I find Shudore's biggest supporters to 484 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:13,399 Speaker 1: be typically very annoying people, I am rooting for him, 485 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: but I think, I mean, we'll see all these this 486 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 1: next month goes. But I I think that he would 487 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 1: serve himself well, if at least internally and psychologically. He 488 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:41,359 Speaker 1: reset his own personal expectations to where man next year, 489 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to go into camp as the clear cut 490 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:57,320 Speaker 1: number two somewhere, and then maybe by year three there 491 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: I will be able to compete eat for a starting 492 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: job somewhere. That to me is a far more realistic 493 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: and achievable path than imagine when I'm getting all the 494 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: reps as the starter, buddy, I don't know that that's 495 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: happening ever. And then, of course, the story of the 496 00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:28,720 Speaker 1: game was the ten sacks from the Browns. I listen, 497 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,600 Speaker 1: I said that I thought Miles Garrett might break the 498 00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 1: sack record against the Raiders in their effort to make 499 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: sure he didn't. Everyone else you know it got gino. 500 00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:45,560 Speaker 1: He had three. He's gonna break the record. And I 501 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:49,400 Speaker 1: the fact that he's only minus eight point fifty for 502 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year surprises me. I think there's 503 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,239 Speaker 1: I actually think there is value in that because I 504 00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:02,000 Speaker 1: think he could get hurt next week and still win it, 505 00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:11,640 Speaker 1: all right. The other news of the weekend was John 506 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: Morant calling Klay Thompson a bum. And they're back and forth, 507 00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,880 Speaker 1: and I have two takes here before we get to 508 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,200 Speaker 1: the other NFL games that we'll do in quick hit 509 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:32,000 Speaker 1: or fashion. Take one is this if you think John 510 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 1: Morant was a better player than Klay Thompson. I don't 511 00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 1: respect your basketball opinion. It's an IQ. It's a basketball 512 00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:46,280 Speaker 1: IQ test. First of all, I'm not the only way 513 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,120 Speaker 1: you could have that opinion is if you're basically being like, 514 00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: who would win a one on one game? And I'm 515 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:59,720 Speaker 1: not certain that peak Jaw against peak Clay that Peak 516 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: would win. He probably would because of the athleticism, but 517 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:09,920 Speaker 1: Clay's defense, shooting, and size would have him right there. 518 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:14,080 Speaker 1: But there is but who gives a shit? Who would 519 00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,480 Speaker 1: win a one on one game? Klay Thompson was the 520 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: more complete player, obviously, the more mature player, understood how 521 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: to play winning basketball, was the better teammate all of 522 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: the above. So that's just about the the the children 523 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:37,920 Speaker 1: and fools on the internet that are like, well, Jah 524 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 1: has a point, You guys don't know what you're watching. 525 00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: The second point is this, we are approaching Defcon one 526 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 1: for Jaz's career in a way, I cannot remember a 527 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,280 Speaker 1: player his caliber because he was a great player, great player. 528 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 1: That the only guys who have his caliber who have 529 00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,520 Speaker 1: blown it up like this, like he appears to be 530 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: trying to do it was because of drugs or injury, 531 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: Like this is a clumsy cump, but I'll stand by it. 532 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:45,719 Speaker 1: He is barreling towards a poor man's version of the 533 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:54,160 Speaker 1: Derek Rose trajectory, except it'd be instead of blowing out 534 00:45:54,200 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: your knee. You're just an asshole like Derek Rowe, who 535 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: won an MVP, by the way, who made a conference finals, 536 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:05,720 Speaker 1: who was on a sixty win team. 537 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 2: It it his career got derailed because he blew his 538 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,239 Speaker 2: knee out, and before he blew his knee out, ran 539 00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:19,839 Speaker 2: into Lebron at his apex. 540 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: Jaws. Just being a fool, and it's a damn shame. 541 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:33,799 Speaker 1: And I don't know that I have much of a 542 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:42,239 Speaker 1: comp for it. Across sports, usually drugs or injury. This 543 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 1: is neither. This is rank immaturity. All right, let me 544 00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: quickly get to these other games and then we're gonna 545 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: we'll do our pick show tomorrow. Rams beat the Bucks, 546 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:01,600 Speaker 1: Baker's injured, My beloved Bucks are in tro and Stafford 547 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: has won MVP. I mean, it's too early to say 548 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:10,680 Speaker 1: he's one MVP. It would be shocking if he doesn't 549 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: win MVP. I don't know what those odds are, but 550 00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: right now I would if you could do it. I'm 551 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,000 Speaker 1: not sure if our friends at hard Rock Bet allow this, 552 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: but if you could parlay Stafford MVP plus Miles Garrett 553 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,920 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year and get you know, plus 554 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: anything on it, I'd like that a lot. Patriots beat 555 00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:41,560 Speaker 1: the Bengals in one of the Patriots least impressive games 556 00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: of the year and only scoring nineteen on that Bengals 557 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 1: defense not great. You might be like, well, they won 558 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640 Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty. There was a May pick six 559 00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,319 Speaker 1: and the later there was a Flacco pick six the 560 00:47:55,360 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: Bengals man, I'd be so Jamar Chase had a very 561 00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:05,239 Speaker 1: nice apology letter that seems sincere, but I'd be so 562 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,920 Speaker 1: mad at Jamar Chase farvar a Bengals fan, because I 563 00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,239 Speaker 1: think they can win that game if he's there, and 564 00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,480 Speaker 1: then you're four and seven about to play the Ravens 565 00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,239 Speaker 1: and potentially just be a game out of the playoffs. 566 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,520 Speaker 1: Packers beat the Vikings twenty three to six. JJ McCarthy 567 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,040 Speaker 1: legitimately might be the single worst player in the entire NFL. 568 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:28,720 Speaker 1: Packers defense is unbelievable. Packers offense still a little shaky 569 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: and Lions beat the Giants in a bad win. Great 570 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:39,520 Speaker 1: job by Jamar Jamier Gibbs. Jamis probably should have been 571 00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:43,360 Speaker 1: the Giants starter week one, not Russell Wilson, and Jamis 572 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 1: should be a starter somewhere next year. But the Vikings 573 00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: they might. You know, the last time a super high 574 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,959 Speaker 1: first round pick only got one year was Josh Rose 575 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,279 Speaker 1: and his team replaced him with Kyler Murray. That's the 576 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 1: last time this happened. It might happen again getting only 577 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,200 Speaker 1: one year because he didn't play last year, because he 578 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:17,479 Speaker 1: might get replaced by Kyler Murray again, because he could 579 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: Kyler could go to the Vikings the other quick hitters. 580 00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:26,719 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football, we talked about a bit the Panthers. 581 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: Good job, good effort on the season. You were competitive, 582 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 1: but you're done. And the Niners are frisky. As long 583 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: as Christian McCaffrey's healthy and Kyle Shanan's calling plays and 584 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: Bob Solo is calling the defense, they're frisky. Purdy is 585 00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: concerning the Oh we didn't talk about Texans bills and listen, 586 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: I know how we all know the rules. Guys. When 587 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,719 Speaker 1: Josh Allen's great, he's the most talented quarterback ever, and 588 00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:59,560 Speaker 1: when he's bad, it's Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott's fault 589 00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:04,880 Speaker 1: bad against the Texans. That that Texans defense is also ferocious, 590 00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 1: and that's another that's a scary team down the stretch 591 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,480 Speaker 1: with the defense playing that way. Seahawks beat the Titans 592 00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,360 Speaker 1: thirty to twenty four in a game that was not 593 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 1: nearly that close. Cam Ward actually played well. I thought 594 00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 1: that was one of the better cam Ward games of 595 00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:22,880 Speaker 1: the year. Seahawks had full control, Jackson Smith and Jigba 596 00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 1: maybe stealing the offensive Player of the Year from Jonathan Taylor. Possibly. 597 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 1: Ravens beat the Jets twenty three to ten and a 598 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:40,040 Speaker 1: game the Jets were in a ridiculous fourth down call 599 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,720 Speaker 1: by Aaron Glenn when the Ravens offense had done nothing, 600 00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:48,000 Speaker 1: combined with a Breezehall fumble, made it to where the Jets, 601 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 1: you know, squandered where what could have been a close 602 00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:54,400 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. Something's wrong with the Ravens offense. And Lamar 603 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: has him been Lamar Bears beat the Steelers. I knew 604 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was idiotic for him to play. He didn't play. 605 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 1: Steelers scored twenty eight twenty one on offense seven because 606 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 1: of a terrible Caleb fumble and the Bears get to 607 00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 1: eight and three. Jags beat the Cardinals twenty seven to 608 00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 1: twenty four in a game that I don't want to 609 00:51:12,960 --> 00:51:17,480 Speaker 1: talk about for two reasons. One is Trevor was terrible, 610 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: but more importantly I I don't want to get into 611 00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:30,080 Speaker 1: the full details of this, but had the Cardinals won 612 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: that game, I would have won thirty four thousand dollars, 613 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:44,120 Speaker 1: and watching how that game ended was difficult to deal with. 614 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,440 Speaker 1: God that that's still a little pit. I didn't lose all, 615 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:56,560 Speaker 1: I lost less than a grand, but I add I 616 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: did a very foolish multi leg moneyline parlay that when 617 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,880 Speaker 1: that game went to overtime, every other leg was already 618 00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,359 Speaker 1: in and you guys know, I'm on team never ever 619 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:16,040 Speaker 1: cash out under any circumstances. So we let that sucker 620 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,160 Speaker 1: ride and that was a painful one. Falcons beat the 621 00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,080 Speaker 1: Saints twenty four to ten in a game I didn't 622 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:27,760 Speaker 1: watch one second of. So that covers Week twelve in 623 00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,160 Speaker 1: the NFL. We will do our pick show that will 624 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:34,279 Speaker 1: air tomorrow, so be on the lookout for that. Like 625 00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:37,719 Speaker 1: rate subscribe review, make sure you get our pick show 626 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: in your feed. A huge shout out to Volume into 627 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:44,240 Speaker 1: Blue Duck and of course our right sponsors hard Rock, Bet, Boost, 628 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 1: Wayfair and Zen. See you guys tomorrow for our Week 629 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:48,839 Speaker 1: thirteen Pick show