1 00:00:03,080 --> 00:00:06,439 Speaker 1: It's now time for Cannabis Talk one oh one with Blue, 2 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: Joe Grande and Mark and Craig Wasserman, the pot Brothers 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: at Law. We are the world's number one podcast for 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: everything cannabis. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cannabis Talk one on one. My name is Blue, 6 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,760 Speaker 2: alongside of me of the pop Brothers in Law and 7 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 2: the world famous Joe Grande, and we were now tuned 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 2: into the greatest cannabis show in the world. 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 3: In the universe, at least on my block, it is Galaxy. 10 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 4: Guys, Come on Galaxy. 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: Aw Yes, well we have a big We have an 12 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: amazing show for you guys today. Joe Grande let him 13 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: know what's going down. 14 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 5: Well, first off, you guys, we want to thank everyone 15 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 5: for listening to our podcast, Cannabis Talk one oh one 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 5: right here on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast or wherever 17 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 5: you get your podcast. Thank you guys so much for 18 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 5: checking us out. 19 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: And you know all of us. It's for twenty twenty twenty. 20 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 5: We just launched a four twenty pm Eastern Saturn time. 21 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 5: It's a big day, you know what I mean. 22 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 2: This is very monumental. 23 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 5: Because we're the first cannabis talk show that I Heart 24 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 5: Media has partnered up with and we're here to give 25 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 5: you guys tons of informations about cannabis, the pros and cons, 26 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 5: the goods, the bads, the stories from when cannabis goes bad. 27 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 5: And you know we're gonna hear a lot of grumpy 28 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 5: stories from Craig Washerman as he's also known as mister Grumpy, right, 29 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 5: Craig Rumpy. Yeah, But before we start this show and 30 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 5: the big launch, we're extremely happy here. We are all 31 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 5: of course at our homes because you know, it's depends, 32 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 5: it's it's covid, bhona virus, coronavirus. We're all in our homes. 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 5: If you hear a dog barking, that's probably blues. If 34 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 5: you hear kids, it's probably mine our marks. If you 35 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 5: hear a nice lady come in and say, here's your drink, 36 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 5: honey and some cheese and crackers, that's probably Craigs' craigdup. 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, here's your joint that's perfectly rolled for you, babe, 38 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 2: as he's in the. 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 5: Back room, yeah, where he can smoke and drink and 40 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 5: do whatever he wants to do. 41 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: So you know, you may hear a few of these. 42 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 5: We're sorry, it's the coronavirus for all in our spots. 43 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 5: But as it is, for twenty, we have about ten 44 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 5: virtual four twenty parties going on online in concerts and 45 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 5: workshops to celebrate of course this big marijuana holiday, you know, 46 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 5: for twenty four, A Cause for twenty at the Coffee 47 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 5: Joint for twenty World Record for twenty special from Nightmare 48 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:23,519 Speaker 5: on Wax, Chronic Relief, Howls of Jane four twenty celebration 49 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 5: of course, and the High Stream four twenty Festival, the 50 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 5: Mile High Virtual four to twenty K, Virtual four twenty Party, 51 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 5: and Waldos Forever fests. 52 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: So there's so many. 53 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 5: Of course, the pop Brothers at Law will be at 54 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 5: some of those, Blue will be at some of those. 55 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 2: I'll bee it. 56 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: We just got asked to jump into the Pete Davidson 57 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:45,279 Speaker 3: web sess. 58 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 2: Oh really yeah. 59 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 6: They hit us up and want us to do some 60 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 6: kind of pre recording. 61 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 3: Well after you have finished listening to this, go listen 62 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 3: to that. 63 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,519 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we'll be out and about everywhere. Of course 64 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 5: as we're recording this just before four twenty, so we'll 65 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 5: be out there hanging with you guys. 66 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 2: That being said, what does four twenty mean to you? Guys? 67 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 5: Where did it start? When did it kick into your life? 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 5: I mean, Blue, you grew up in a different household 69 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 5: than us three at least as meaning your dad grew 70 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 5: up with cannabis around the house, growing selling, smoking. It 71 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 5: was just like part of like your dad' soe tires 72 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 5: for allegedly a mechanic, Yeah, allegedly. 73 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: So how did it pass? 74 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:23,360 Speaker 4: Blue? Exactly? 75 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 5: You're okay now, Pops is resting in peace right now. 76 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:30,160 Speaker 5: But my point is, how was that for you growing up? 77 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:32,359 Speaker 5: Was there a four twenty time or when when did 78 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 5: that hit you? 79 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: You know what four twenty for me was, you know, 80 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: naturally a time that we smoked cannabis as a youngster. 81 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 2: It also was a time for partying and things like that. 82 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: We'd always go out, specially because of the four twenty thing, 83 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: and be like, oh, let's go out. It's four twenty. 84 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 2: We're gonna get lit tonight. That was at my younger days, 85 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: you know. Nowadays, you know, it's funny because if you 86 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: catch me and it's like it's four twenty, we're like, oh, 87 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 2: we'll smoke, you know. But most of the time, you know, 88 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 2: it meant to a place and a time to get high, 89 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 2: and so that's kind of you know, where we we'd 90 00:04:03,880 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 2: sit down and smoke a joint. 91 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 5: What about you, Joe, Well, for me growing up, you know, 92 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 5: I started smoking when I was six years old and 93 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 5: my older brother was sixteen, so I constantly always was 94 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 5: just smoking here and there from too young of an age. 95 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 5: But I remember four twenty hitting in a junior high 96 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: high school era for myself, and it takes me back 97 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 5: to like. 98 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: The Bammer weed days. 99 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 5: You know that brown cess Mexican weed that was in 100 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 5: a big old brick when you smoked in it ad 101 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:34,919 Speaker 5: seeds and then you smoke a joint, Yeah. 102 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 6: Seed stems. 103 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 2: Hey Joe, why's there got to be Mexican because we're 104 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: Mexican dogg. 105 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 5: That's just what you had, and it was Mexican cess. 106 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,559 Speaker 5: And if it had a little green do it, You're like, whoa, 107 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 5: this is a good batch. And it felt like it 108 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 5: was Fourth of July every time you're smoking a joint 109 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 5: because there was so much fireworks and popping going off 110 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 5: in your face. But I think of that because it's like, oh, 111 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 5: it's four twenty, let's go smoke one. And I remember 112 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 5: smoking those early on. It wasn't like to day's kids 113 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 5: who always have a nice flower budget, you know, to 114 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 5: roll up. 115 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 2: It was like, you know, put in. 116 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 5: A proto pipe or something like that. 117 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:11,600 Speaker 2: Joe. I want to say something too, Joe, is that 118 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,720 Speaker 2: you know what it is when when it actually when 119 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 2: it blows up, it's generally insects carcass So it's it's 120 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,200 Speaker 2: actually that so the seeds usually don't blow up. It 121 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 2: was usually an insect that was yes, and the way 122 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: they put back in the next week. Back in the day, 123 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: there was probably. 124 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 6: And we never got exactly. 125 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,280 Speaker 5: Let's start with you big brother Pop brothers at law, 126 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 5: Craig Washerman. I woult to suspect you're probably at U 127 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 5: c l A. The time the whole four twenty was 128 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 5: like popular. No, I think it's I placed it in 129 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 5: high school. Really, I was definitely in high school. I 130 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 5: was in high school at the time. 131 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,359 Speaker 3: Here we probably junior senior year of high school, because 132 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 3: I believe for twenty came about around the early seventies. 133 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 3: I was in high school graduate in high school in seventeen, 134 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 3: and I think it started around my senior year where 135 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 3: my one buddy and I, uh who happens to be 136 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 3: a doctor now, where we would get high every morning 137 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 3: before school and every day after school at four twenty. 138 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: And a doctor and a lawyer. 139 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 5: So look at that smoking. 140 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: We've got to make an idiot. Come on and Mark, 141 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 2: what about you? That's little brother. 142 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 7: Well, if he was in high school, I was in 143 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 7: junior high school because I learned it from him. 144 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 6: So, you know, I was out at the house and 145 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 6: I hear, hey. 146 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 7: I'm gonna let's meet it four twenty. I'm like, what's that? 147 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 7: What's what? 148 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: What? 149 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 6: What is that? 150 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 7: And uh, you know, after you well, yeah, I found 151 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 7: I did find it in the room, and. 152 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 6: That was my first experience. 153 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,640 Speaker 4: But in my room, in my room. 154 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 6: Well if it was, it wasn't it was in my room. 155 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 7: They want to be stealing, so you know, we got 156 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 7: to I was definitely stealing your boat back then. But 157 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 7: for me, it really I I really started using heavily 158 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 7: when I got to law school, where everybody was using heavily, 159 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 7: and it really was communal. It was, you know, gathering 160 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 7: together and passing a bunch of joints around, and which 161 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 7: you know right now, I can't do that, you know, 162 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 7: and I don't even know at all we're going to 163 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 7: be able to do that again for a couple of years, 164 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 7: if ever, which is kind of sad because one of 165 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 7: the big things about four twenty and smoking cannabis is 166 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 7: that whole community and and bringing people closer together and 167 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 7: gathering and sharing stories. 168 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 3: And no matter who it is, a stranger strangers, you 169 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 3: sit around. 170 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 7: You. 171 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 5: Five on it, like you know, I mean, the loony's going, 172 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 5: who got five put the five bucks on a sack 173 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 5: and we're smoking the blood together. 174 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 7: Well, and if you go somewhere and you go outside 175 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 7: and you light up within seconds, So what's that smell? 176 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 6: Oh that smells good? Hey, yeah, come over, have a hit. 177 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 5: I love partying and going hey, do you smell the weed? 178 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 2: You smell that weed? Or or they're going yeah. 179 00:07:57,320 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 4: So that's it, man. 180 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 6: So what so, Joe, what's going on in the show today? No? 181 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 5: Before that, though, Mark, give us the story. 182 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 2: I know. 183 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 5: I think you have the whole story breakdown of what 184 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 5: four twenty means. 185 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 4: I do. 186 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 7: I have the origin and Big Brother was pretty close 187 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 7: early seventies. So here it is in nineteen seventy one, 188 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 7: five high school students Steve Capper, Dave Reddicks, Jeffrey Noel, 189 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 7: Larry Schwartz, and Mark Gravitch and I did send messages 190 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 7: to these people, but I haven't heard anything back. They 191 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 7: were in San Rafael, California, and they called. 192 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 6: Them the area the Waldos. 193 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 7: Now you mentioned the Waldo forever Fest as one of 194 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 7: the un in Illinois. 195 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, four twenty. 196 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 7: So their chosen hangout spot in high school was a 197 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 7: wall outside the school, so they decided to call themselves 198 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 7: the Waldos. Now the Waldoes then designated at their high school, 199 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 7: the Louis Pasteur Statue, which was right on the grounds 200 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 7: of the high school in San Rafael, as their meeting 201 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 7: place at four to twenty pm, and that's where they 202 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 7: would meet and smoke and look at this treasure map 203 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 7: that legend had. It was a map that led to 204 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 7: a cannabis grove that was like centuries old or something 205 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 7: like that, some crazy stuff up north in the hills. 206 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 6: And eventually they gave up. 207 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 7: It didn't lead to anywhere, and they the phrase they 208 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,559 Speaker 7: used in was for twenty. 209 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 6: Louis that was there. 210 00:09:28,240 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 7: That was their code, which then after the whole map 211 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 7: search failed, they just simply said four twenty, which evolved 212 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 7: into code word meaning consuming cannabis for these teens. 213 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 6: Now, that's how it. 214 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:46,000 Speaker 7: Started, but how it really blew up was Stephen Hager 215 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,640 Speaker 7: of High Times. They say was responsible for taking that 216 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 7: story of the Waldos to just mind boggling cult like 217 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 7: extremes and suppressing all the other stories that were out there, 218 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:03,080 Speaker 7: all the other myths. And Hagar wrote stoner smart or 219 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 7: stoner stupid? And you know it's today for twenty at 220 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:13,320 Speaker 7: four twenty pm. I mean it is a historical time. 221 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 7: We're never gonna be able to celebrate four twenty for 222 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 7: an entire month, although celebrating it in a new fashion 223 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 7: online sessions have become the hit. 224 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 2: For twenty twenty twenty. 225 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 5: I figured we need a couple more twenties in there. 226 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 5: On the show today, Craig Washerman as your cannabis news 227 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 5: little brother Mark Washerman has your stories from when cannabis 228 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 5: goes bad. I got your go green money making stories, 229 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 5: and I think I'm gonna have a solution to you 230 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 5: guys for the economy, especially after this coronavirus, the way 231 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 5: cannabis can really help the environment. But now it's time 232 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 5: to hear from the guy who shut down the one 233 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 5: oh one As a rapper with his group Imperial Stars, 234 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 5: one of the best stunts ever. He actually created Cannabis 235 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 5: Talk one oh one. He's an author, highly sought after 236 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 5: public speaker, my man Blue who's out there making waves 237 00:10:57,800 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 5: in the cannabis world. 238 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 2: Brother. So, if you're looking at find out what social 239 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: media influencers are making waves, Cannabis Talk one on ones 240 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 2: the place to find them. However, there's an article that 241 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 2: came out with fifty two SMIs Joe, what's an SMI? 242 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 2: SMI social security? I don't know sm social money, Craig Craig, 243 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: Craig shaking myself? What about you? What about you? Mark SMI? 244 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, suck my iguana. 245 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 4: Shaking, shaking, shaking my something. 246 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: Social media influencers guys, All right, come on, edumacation bro oh, 247 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 2: now you're the teacher. I didn't know that. Uh So, 248 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: accompanied by the name of Male high Pipes out of 249 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: Colorado comes out with this number one social media influencer 250 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: as Davin Granny. She's a good friend of ourn Granny. 251 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: We love Granny. Yeah, she's awesome. 252 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 2: Way she's the number one. How many followers do you have? 253 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 2: She has one point four million followers on Instagram. And 254 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 2: if you don't know who she is, guys, she's an 255 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 2: elder lady that just you know, has an amazing you 256 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: know personality, and she goes around educating people while she's smoking. 257 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 2: And she also goes all around the world, so people 258 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: follow her on adventures and tours through the cannabis community 259 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: and real quick out of the fifty two, can you 260 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 2: guys guess who the top five are? So let me 261 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 2: let me start with Joe Joe Brody, What do you got? 262 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 5: I would say for cannabis influencer, Snoop Dogg has to 263 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 5: be up. 264 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: In there now. Snoop Dogg's on the list but is 265 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 2: not on the top five. 266 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 6: What about Seth? 267 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 2: No good one very good? But Adam be Real, be Real, 268 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 2: be Real did not make the top five. So check 269 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 2: this out the top five, guys. Number one coming in 270 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 2: at Davin Granny. Number two is Purple Gloves Ah, Number 271 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 2: three is Customs Grow four twenty. Number four is Kawalamos 272 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: and yes we do know her. And can you guys 273 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: guess who Number five is? 274 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 6: Angela Mazante model with all the tattoos. 275 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 2: Good Jason Berger? No, no, no, it's the world famous 276 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 2: pop brothers at Law. What man they got you guys 277 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 2: at number five? That's why you guys, got the blue. 278 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 4: Is this in the cannabis space? 279 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: This is in the cannabis space, and these are this Yeah, 280 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 2: this company is actually Mile High Pipes out of Colorado. 281 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 2: And you know, at first, when when Dab and Granny went, 282 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,840 Speaker 2: you know one, I thought, you know what, this is 283 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 2: going to be all Colorado people, and you know, so 284 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 2: I kind of thought it was biased, you know, but 285 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 2: then again, Davin Granny is probably one of the number 286 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: one influencers out there. And then I saw number five 287 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: as the pop brothers at law, which that's big. 288 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 5: That means you guys are the dirtiest lawyers around the country. 289 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 6: Yeah. 290 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 2: Many. 291 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: We do what we do. 292 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 6: What we gotta get it done, period. 293 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 4: You know, man, we. 294 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 6: Got to people to shut the without getting some blowback. 295 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: I like it, oh for sure. For sure. Now you guys, 296 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 2: I want you guys to know this that you know 297 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: out there in the industry right now. As influencers, you 298 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: guys have a responsibility, Okay, So make sure you guys 299 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: are are on top of things. This is very important. 300 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 2: So Mile High Pipe. So they have a lot of 301 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:26,239 Speaker 2: different accessories, glass bongs, hemp, whips, wigs. I'm sorry cleansers 302 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: from our friends for twenty formula for twenty and they 303 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 2: have a lot of different products. So we're gonna have 304 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 2: try and get them on the show as well to 305 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 2: kind of find out where they got their data from, 306 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: because I'm not sure that prop brothers that law should 307 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 2: have been number five. 308 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 6: Probably number one, probably three, two one. 309 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: I don't know was there price, was there was there 310 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 3: any rigs or prices along with that? 311 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 5: You guys are teaching so many people on social media 312 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 5: the script, and you know, for those who are just 313 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 5: listening to the podcast for the first time, please go 314 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 5: over the script because this stuff has gone global. 315 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: I mean, you guys get a hit. 316 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 5: Up from Australia, from South Africa because it it works everywhere, 317 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 5: and it's not just about cannabis. It's about anything in life. 318 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 5: And you guys created the STFU, the hashtag SCFU, and 319 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 5: you know what, I commend you guys for being number 320 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 5: five on that list. I do think maybe even higher though, 321 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: because teach everybody the script boys. 322 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 7: All right, So for those who don't know, the script 323 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 7: is something that my brother and I created to create 324 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 7: a way for citizens to engage it with law enforcement 325 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 7: when they're getting pulled over or in any fashion. So 326 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 7: we make sure to keep law enforcement and citizens safe. 327 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 7: And it's only twenty five words. You use it politely, 328 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 7: non aggressive, and it's goes like this, big brother, what 329 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 7: do you say when the cops first pull you over? 330 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 4: Why'd you pull me over? 331 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 6: And when they start asking you questions very nicely? 332 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 3: If you get pulled over today, this is the only 333 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: variant from the script that we've done for all these 334 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 3: your script. 335 00:15:55,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 2: No no, no, no. 336 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 7: No, because of what we just could have done it 337 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 7: and then just do it just. 338 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 3: Because of these because of the coronavirus. You have to 339 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 3: tell them you're out for an essential that why you 340 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: would tell me, I'm not discussing what we teach. It's 341 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: not what we teach. Let's teach it how we teach it. 342 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: Let's teach it how we teach it. And you use 343 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 3: the variable after you say you're not discussing your day? 344 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 3: You know this, why did you put what do you 345 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: say when the cops first. 346 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 6: Pull you over? 347 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 4: Why'd you pull me over? 348 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: And when they start asking questions? 349 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 4: Not discussing my day? 350 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 2: And he says well, and. 351 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 6: He says, well, there's a stay at home order. Why 352 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 6: are you out? 353 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,840 Speaker 3: I'm going to get my cannabis, which is essential, and 354 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: you're probably and. 355 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 6: You're probably going to get more drugs like heroin. 356 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 4: Right, I'm not discussing my day. 357 00:16:50,680 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 6: Well, I don't care what you're discussing. You're going to 358 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 6: tell me what we got him in the trunk? 359 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 4: Can I go in your trunk? 360 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: Am I? 361 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 6: Sir? 362 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 2: Am? 363 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 4: I being detained? You're being detained. 364 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 6: Get out of the car, Sir. 365 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 3: I invoked my Fifth Amendment rights and then I'm gonna. 366 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 4: Shut the fuck up. 367 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 7: You shut the fuck up when cops ask questions. Don't 368 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 7: say that to the cops, but just do it. And 369 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 7: that's what we teach and preacher on social media. That's 370 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 7: kind of gone mega viral and. 371 00:17:16,400 --> 00:17:18,639 Speaker 2: That's why you guys are so what is it? The ms? I? 372 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: Is that? What it is? Blue? I have no idea? 373 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:29,160 Speaker 2: S S SMA. I'm so lost on Craig not forgetting 374 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 2: the script or whatever. 375 00:17:31,240 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 4: I didn't forget the script. I didn't forget it. 376 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: I was adding we added something in because of the. 377 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 6: Script with a twist. 378 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 4: Is what we said. 379 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: You said so many other words that no one even 380 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,960 Speaker 2: knows what the script is. You should say it again? 381 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: Is that it? Though? 382 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 6: Blue? Is that? 383 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 2: Who's making waves. That's who's making waves now, the Craig 384 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 2: Wasserman with Cannabis Talk News. 385 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 3: All right, let's get serious, let's get straight into it. 386 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,479 Speaker 3: Medical and adult cannabis use has been deemed essential by 387 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 3: the state of California and many other states. 388 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: The problem is that. 389 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 3: That, along with it being an essential item, an essential business. 390 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 3: Yet all these cannabis legal state cannabis businesses are on 391 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 3: the brink of failure still because they can't get access 392 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 3: to the Paycheck Protection Program by the federal government because 393 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 3: under the federal rules that's illegal and it doesn't fall 394 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 3: within the PPP actch And what's even worse though, we 395 00:18:34,119 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 3: also have issues in certain states like Massachusetts, where they've 396 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 3: said that adult use as opposed to medical cannabis stores, 397 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 3: adult use are closed. They're not essential. Only medical stores 398 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 3: are essential. And what that's doing is it's causing people 399 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: who don't have their medical card. But, like I always say, 400 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: even if you don't have your medical card when you 401 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 3: ingest cans, you're medicating whether you have your card or not. 402 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 3: So there's a lot of people who medicate without a 403 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: card and need access to medicine. 404 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 2: It's to get stone though, Craig. 405 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 4: No, I'm they're they're sure they're still medicating. 406 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 6: No, they don't all know it. 407 00:19:12,960 --> 00:19:16,439 Speaker 3: So there's a group suing the state of Massachusetts right 408 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: now on behalf of is like five stores and a 409 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 3: veteran combat veteran who even though he has his medical card, 410 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 3: there is nothing near him that medical store he can't access. 411 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 3: He only has access to stores that sell adult use. 412 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: So those stores are being shut down and not deemed essential. 413 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 3: And there's actually a lawsuit. I think it's going to 414 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,680 Speaker 3: be going on the next day or two. Well, we'll 415 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 3: report back on how the judge rules on that. But 416 00:19:43,160 --> 00:19:45,600 Speaker 3: he uses it for a PTSD and he should be 417 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,360 Speaker 3: able to go into a store. It's all medicate medication, 418 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 3: no matter what you're doing, whether you're getting high, however 419 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: you want to put it, Joe, it's still you're medicating yourself. 420 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 5: And not only it sucks too for the older people. 421 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 5: Not only that you know a veteran right there, but 422 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 5: you know an older person like yourself, Craig, who can't drive. 423 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 2: I'm not I say you can't, but. 424 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 3: You know, you know what's funny, Joe? What's funny? 425 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 7: Joe? 426 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: And and I know you don't like when I read 427 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:09,679 Speaker 4: stuff or quotes. 428 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,440 Speaker 3: But we have a law professor, Joseph Kennedy at a 429 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: University of North Carolina, and I know Joe hates this, but. 430 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:18,760 Speaker 6: It's a great it's a great quote. 431 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 3: What this guy. What this guy says. The fact that 432 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 3: yesterday's vice is considered today's essential service suggests that we 433 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 3: got the potential costs and benefits of marijuana use radically wrong. 434 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: It's evidence of the schizoid attitude our society has toward 435 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 3: drugs in general and toward marijuana in particular. What a 436 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 3: great statement. 437 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, he. 438 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 4: Hit it right on the head. 439 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 3: Joseph Kennedy out of University of North Carolina. 440 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 4: And what's better. 441 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 3: Also, what's happening is we have our representative from Colorado, 442 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 3: Ed Pearlmutter, and several other senators. They're trying to get 443 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 3: in the next Covis relief package from the federal government 444 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 3: allowing state legal cannabis businesses to participate in the program 445 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: where the US government is bailing out businesses. 446 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 2: As they should. 447 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 5: They're a normal business like everybody else. For God's sakes, 448 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 5: how can anybody sit there and say anything. 449 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 2: Different about these owners? 450 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 5: They've been spending tons of money and tons of taxes 451 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 5: to buy all this cannabis. Legally, they're abiding by more 452 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 5: rules in a liquor store, for God's sakes, or any 453 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 5: other restaurant. And it's like, why wouldn't these people be 454 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 5: able to capitalize on the stimulus program. 455 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous. 456 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, Carrier, I get why they can't, but I'm just 457 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 5: giving the argument of why they should be able to do. 458 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 5: They're paying all their taxes being able Actually, if not more, 459 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 5: they're paying more taxes every other business. 460 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there. 461 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: Are way way more. 462 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: They're also being allowed to stay open, which is awesome 463 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 2: and I think it's huge. 464 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 3: Although although although in Santa Clara County here in California, 465 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: they pulled a little doozy and I'm not sure they're 466 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: able to enforce it, but kind of like Massachusetts, they 467 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 3: found the county said medical stores only medical patients can 468 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 3: go into the store. If you don't have a medical 469 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,199 Speaker 3: and you only adult use, you have to get it 470 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 3: by delivery. 471 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 2: Well that's why I kind of get that. 472 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: So what if you're a medical patient. 473 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 3: What if you're a medical patient who doesn't have access 474 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: within one hundred and fifty miles of a medical store. 475 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 4: But you've got an adult youth store down sure. 476 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 5: Only in Santa Clairic you said, Santa Clair's one hundred 477 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 5: and fifty. 478 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: No, Santa clairt Santanata Clara County County. The compartend is 479 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 3: it's compromised of a bunch of different cities. 480 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 2: Well, you got companies in the county. 481 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 5: So Khaliva, right, Khaliva's in the Santa Clara County of 482 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: the Bay area. Kaliva's a very big dispensary. It's the 483 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 5: one Joe montana'spent like fifty million dollars investing. 484 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 2: It's the one that. 485 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 5: My point is should do a lot of delivery services 486 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: for the whole area. And they and they're there are 487 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 5: now to. 488 00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 4: Prevent a medical patient from going on. I don't I 489 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 4: think is wrong. 490 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 2: Well, listen, I think the state, the state has the 491 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 2: ability to do that, but I don't know about the county. 492 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:18,959 Speaker 2: You know, No, the county can. 493 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 4: They're more restrictive. 494 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 3: The state deemed adult use and medical stores essential, but 495 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 3: the county can be more restrictive. And that's what Santa 496 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: Clara County did. But in the article I read, it's 497 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 3: very difficult to uh to enforce because the way they're 498 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 3: interpreting the order from the county is that as long 499 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 3: as you have a medical condition, so you have to actually, 500 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 3: which just kind of sucks. You'd have to tell the 501 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 3: people at the store, this is my medical condition. Even 502 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:46,040 Speaker 3: if you don't have a card. It doesn't say you 503 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 3: have to have a card. 504 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 6: Oh well, there you go. 505 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 2: That's an easy call. 506 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 5: I got bad hips, I got epilepsy whatever. 507 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but it's still it's still problematic that you know, 508 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 3: it's still problematic, and the fact that the federal government 509 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 3: is still denying, uh, the change in this is absolutely nuts. 510 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 3: When when the federal government is compromised of all the states, well, 511 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 3: isn't it well, I think, isn't the federal government compromised 512 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 3: of all the states? All the United the federal House 513 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: of Representative of Congress are from the states. Well, so 514 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: if the majority of the states wanted, why has not 515 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 3: federal legalization happened? 516 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 2: You got to you got that, Joe, Why is it 517 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 2: gonna be? Joe, I'm here talking to many Blue. Here's 518 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 2: the thing. I think it just goes back to a simple, 519 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,439 Speaker 2: uh suggestion that we've all talked about, is that do 520 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 2: you think that the United States will come out, being 521 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 2: one of the most conservative states you know, to say, hey, 522 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 2: cannabis is medically legal in America. There's no way they 523 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: would come out and say it was medically legal if 524 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 2: it was didn't have medicinal values. And I think what's 525 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 2: happened is the Feds are just waiting to uncover or 526 00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 2: unreal unrevealed the the veil, if you will, or what ever, 527 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 2: so that they get showed out later because they have 528 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 2: to do it at a slow pace because they can't 529 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 2: just open it up and let everybody run wild. 530 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,120 Speaker 5: And on top of that, well it's not going fast enough. 531 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 5: But to add to what you're saying, Blue, in my opinion, 532 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,600 Speaker 5: which Blue and I have discussed back and forth with 533 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 5: Market Craig tons of times, more research, if we have 534 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: more research from these major major companies, that there's not enough. 535 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 2: Unfortunately, we need more research to show I used this research. 536 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 2: And here's the analogy. 537 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: Pharmaceuticals did research and got a patent on the epidy 538 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 3: of locks, which cannabis based medication for epilepsy. That's just 539 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 3: how they got They got there, know that they've had 540 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 3: it for a while now, a couple of years ago, 541 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 3: but if they can, you know. 542 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 4: Why can't other people get theirs? 543 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:53,080 Speaker 3: Because they're not spending the money the government too. Many 544 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 3: of the senators are in bed with high with with 545 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 3: tobacco and alcohol. 546 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 5: Not only that, and pharmaceuticals that they don't want farmercy 547 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 5: and that doesn't want it, either narcos or vicotin But 548 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 5: my point is this, we need to have a solution 549 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,679 Speaker 5: where I know, for my big two hundred and sixty 550 00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 5: five pound fat ass, I need about four advils to 551 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 5: get my pain down right now. 552 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 2: I need my to slow me down and make me 553 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 2: feel good. 554 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 5: I need to know if it's smoking half a joint, 555 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: is it two drops of teasters? Is it one edible? 556 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 5: Is it a half of this? We don't have that 557 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 5: type of research out yet. What we do, that's what 558 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 5: everything else is gonna pop. 559 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 3: That's that's up to you to decide what you need 560 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: and what works for you. 561 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 4: But what we need, though. 562 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 3: Is all of our listeners to call up their representatives 563 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 3: in house, representatives in Congress and flood. 564 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 4: The phone lines, flood the emails. 565 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 3: A need to make this federal, especially if that state 566 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 3: has made it legal. 567 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 4: And that's what we let me do. And that's Craig 568 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 4: with your cannabis news. 569 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 2: Where do they say, Mark, Now, I was. 570 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 6: Just gonna follow up with what he said about contacting. 571 00:26:55,880 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 7: There's websites out there like Americans for Safe Access. 572 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,400 Speaker 6: And Normal n O, r mL dot org. 573 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 7: Where you go on their website, do a couple of 574 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 7: clicks and you'll get you right to your representatives. You 575 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 7: do another click, put in your name and a letter 576 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 7: is sent automatically, very easy and. 577 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 5: By no means Craig do. And I'm gonna speak for 578 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 5: Blue too. We wish and want what you want. Don't 579 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 5: get me wrong. We would all like to snap our 580 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 5: fingers and say yes, make it happen. But like Blue said, 581 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,119 Speaker 5: slowly it's going to happen. With more research, it's going 582 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 5: to happen. But don't get it twisted, Craig, I wish 583 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,159 Speaker 5: tonight tonight at four at four twenty am in the 584 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 5: morning on twenty it could happen. That'd be ideal. 585 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 2: But that was one of my predictions. That one of 586 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 2: my predictions. I was saying on four to twenty, it 587 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 2: might just happen. You know, in the crazy world right now, 588 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 2: I mean, we. 589 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: Have a president that could have done it. Hasn't done it, 590 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,160 Speaker 3: said he was going to leave it to the states, 591 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,520 Speaker 3: and it's completely turned around. 592 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: Well, but you know what he didn't do, though, is 593 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 2: he didn't make it illegal. He actually let the states 594 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: do their thing. 595 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: No, no, no, not that's not how it works. 596 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: No, No, it's illegal federally, and if it wasn't for 597 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 3: our Congress. He tried to take the protection that we 598 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: currently have from federal prosecution for legal bis for states 599 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 3: and big and for business in legal states. He tried 600 00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:23,159 Speaker 3: to take the federal protections away. 601 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 2: Well did he he completely don't want it. It happened, No, 602 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 2: because he doesn't pass at all. Didn't happen the Congress. 603 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 4: The Congress wouldn't let him. So he hasn't done ship. 604 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 4: Yeah here that he could have done. 605 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 7: Stroke stroke, stroke, And that is the uh, that's the Brook. 606 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 6: Right to the spending bill that Big brothers referring to. 607 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 5: Well, you guys, I have a solution for our economy 608 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 5: once this whole coronavirus is done, and I really believe 609 00:28:55,920 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 5: it all comes around legalizing marijuana, because the dollars that 610 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 5: this could create for the economy is ridiculous. Take a 611 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 5: look at some of this, you guys, just think about this. 612 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: First of all, COVID nineteen. 613 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: You know, our producer Elvis was diagnosed with it, so 614 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,280 Speaker 5: we've dealt with it on a first hand basis that allegedly, 615 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 5: apparently Mark might have had it, Blue Hat it. I 616 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 5: had it, Craig didn't have it. We all came from Colorado. 617 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 5: We all had all those symptoms that everybody describes, but 618 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 5: you know I had yes, Craig and being the old one, 619 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 5: he didn't, and we all were in Colorado at a dispensar. 620 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: When we came home, we felt bad. And this was 621 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 2: in early March. 622 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 5: But my point is, at least twenty two thousand people 623 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 5: have died from COVID nineteen, and in the past three weeks, 624 00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 5: seventeen million have lost their jobs filing for unemployment. Nearly 625 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 5: three thousand died in September, right, And it's like thirteen 626 00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 5: million lost their jobs doing the Great Depression, Right, So 627 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 5: you're looking at the Great Depression, thirteen million people, thirteen 628 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 5: million lose the jobs. Some people believe that this could 629 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 5: be the same type of environment that we're moving into, right, 630 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 5: So what could help Well, let's see what an alcohol 631 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 5: do when the Great Depression helps it brought in with 632 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 5: taxes one point three five billion dollars in federal tax 633 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 5: revenue in nineteen thirty four, about half of the government's 634 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 5: total revenue. 635 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 2: So now when you look at what cannabis can do. 636 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 5: Nationwide, come on, you guys, look what it did the 637 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:22,959 Speaker 5: first few months. 638 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: And what was it? 639 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 5: Illinois forty three our first few days forty three million 640 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 5: or something like that. 641 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: Ridiculous out in Illinois. 642 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 5: And it's like, when is the state not every state 643 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 5: going to pull their head out of their ass and say, 644 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 5: let's make this legal because we can capitalize on making 645 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 5: a lot of money, even though of course some places 646 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 5: are hurting, but this is an essential product out there. 647 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 2: Now. 648 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 5: I'm happy Joe Biden's sticking up for Bernie Sanders now 649 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 5: and taking his stance on WITAS. 650 00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 2: He's now the big guy getting for the big push. 651 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: But your guys' thoughts on. 652 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 5: My kind of theory that I'm throwing out there with 653 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 5: some random factual numbers, I'm not making up these numbers. 654 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 2: Those are the numbers I see. 655 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 3: Well, I think, first, Joe, you got to look at 656 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 3: it's got to be a reasonable approach. Listen to you, 657 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 3: Most most states have so overtaxed regulated cannabis. 658 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 5: That but even in California, mostgu but there's so many money. 659 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 2: They're still making money in California. 660 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 6: It shouldn't be about money. 661 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 4: It shouldn't be about money. 662 00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 3: It should be like any others, any other sales tax. 663 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: There shouldn't be any extra. 664 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 2: Everything's about money. Look at look at all the autilliary. 665 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 3: Because it's about money. They then they overtaxed I'm talking about, 666 00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 3: and then you get the black market. Who what's just 667 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 3: gonna thrive and that money does not go. 668 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 5: Which is about I hear you, Craig, But everyone's gonna 669 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:47,040 Speaker 5: get a piece of pine eye. And I wish that 670 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 5: the tax will lower, But I'm saying in general, the 671 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,000 Speaker 5: state's gonna make a lot of money off this. The 672 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 5: auxiliary services, from construction, marketing, legal aspects, there's so many 673 00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 5: other jobs that come from from cannabis being legal. Like 674 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 5: those are just some random things that I mentioned right 675 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 5: now that you need to hire to get the bud 676 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 5: tenders next. 677 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 2: So my point is you're creating so much more jobs. 678 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 5: You're right though, Craig, in the aspect of we need 679 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 5: to follow a better plan than what California does because 680 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:21,200 Speaker 5: California overtaxes these companies way too much. It seems like 681 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 5: Oklahoma's doing a decent job with what they're doing over there. 682 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 6: Are they getting over there? 683 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 7: No, they they've they they've turned, They've turned and have 684 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 7: done and have done. Yeah, they've done things to upset 685 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 7: a lot of owners out there. 686 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 6: They started changing rules on the right. 687 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:39,640 Speaker 2: Is what's the spot out there? 688 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, app go ap goo med foid dollars 689 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 7: out there. He actually, because of this coronavirus and the 690 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 7: stuff that the state started to do, he had to 691 00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 7: shut down. 692 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 6: He has two dispensaries out there. 693 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:55,840 Speaker 7: He had to shut one down, and he's got one 694 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 7: now up in UH in Tulsa. 695 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 6: That's rocking and rolling. But it ain't it. 696 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 7: It's just they make it difficult because I think a 697 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 7: lot of these uh dinosaur representatives that are out there 698 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 7: for the states, they just they see dollar signs, but 699 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 7: they don't understand that it's different coming into the ring. 700 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 2: Well, it needs to be worked out. 701 00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,680 Speaker 4: Go ahead, Craig, Yeah, I mean the doll that. 702 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:21,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, they see the dollar signs, but they don't understand 703 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:23,720 Speaker 3: that there's gonna be no dollar signs. There's going to 704 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 3: be no cannabis businesses if they're not allowed to operate 705 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,320 Speaker 3: under a fair regulated system. 706 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 2: Well, and I think the real problem is that there's 707 00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: a lot of cannabis companies that are still operating in 708 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: the black market, that are major that own shares or 709 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: own stock and actually own companies that are still operating 710 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 2: back door. So it's very hard to tax it because 711 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: there's not enough money being there. Blue, What did you. 712 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 5: Say that's only mostly in California because the black market 713 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 5: as we were in Colorado, they weren't booming in the 714 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 5: black market unless they're keeping it more hushshed with this. 715 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 5: You think Colorado, California, California hands down. 716 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 2: No, don't get me wrong. I think the whole the 717 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,959 Speaker 2: whole country is moving black market cannabis. Whatever state you're in, 718 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 2: and i'll tell you a get around, right, yeah, Chicago, 719 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 2: you know you're talking about all the devoues. But here 720 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:18,319 Speaker 2: you're in, we're doing it. I mean they're doing it 721 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 2: so here. Here's what happens, though, is is places like Oklahoma, 722 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: you take some cannabis that's been regulated here that passes 723 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: under metrics, and then it disappears and it ends up 724 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 2: in Oklahoma, and then they sell it over the counter. 725 00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 2: They get to test it there. Hey, we have this 726 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 2: cannabis available, came from our our our grow, let's test it. 727 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 2: They test it, and they're selling it in stores because 728 00:34:42,040 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: they can't produce enough of it because it's trying to 729 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,839 Speaker 2: be blown out so fast. That's happening in a lot 730 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 2: of states allegedly, and so. 731 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,520 Speaker 4: They don't have track and trace. They don't have track 732 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 4: and trace. 733 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,160 Speaker 2: In Oklahoma, not not, not like we do. And even 734 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 2: here their track and trace here is not being regulated. 735 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 2: So here's what happens. I just grew x Y and 736 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 2: then oh it didn't sell in time, we got rid 737 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 2: of it. They're not monitoring it. They just don't have 738 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,239 Speaker 2: a big enough web to do it. Yet. It's not 739 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 2: it's not like track and trace like the pharmaceutical companies, 740 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,680 Speaker 2: let's say that, and even them have slippery loose holes. 741 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 5: That's crazy. 742 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 2: Well, I'm Joe Grande. 743 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 5: That's your go green money making segment where I could 744 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 5: tell you I really believe cannabis could help the economy. 745 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 5: I mean, there are so many many things that could 746 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,080 Speaker 5: be out there. This coronavirus has affected so many people. 747 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 5: Mark Washerman, what's going on with cannabis goes bad. 748 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 6: Well, Joe, thank you very much. 749 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 7: And you know, I like to rip these stories right 750 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 7: from the headlines, because not even you, Joe, could make 751 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:40,320 Speaker 7: my things up. And we tried to pull the stories, 752 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 7: the morals out of these stories. So right here out 753 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 7: of Summerfield, Florida, the headline reads, domestic violence leads to 754 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 7: cannabis operation arrest Now deputies were called to a home 755 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 7: about a domestic. 756 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: Hitting by Mary Jane. 757 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 6: When they are. 758 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 2: I couldn't resist. 759 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:03,879 Speaker 7: He only wished, he only wishes, he only wishes. And 760 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 7: the lady, the woman told the cops that her boyfriend 761 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 7: she lives with, Zachariah Leon Hinman, had been drinking throughout 762 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 7: the day and he took her cell phone and was 763 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 7: looking through her messages. She said, her boyfriend followed her 764 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 7: to the bathroom and body slammed her to the ground. Oh, 765 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 7: pindering more and punched her, punched your numerous times in 766 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 7: the head. Yes, it's definitely gonna go bad for this guy. 767 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,160 Speaker 7: She ran out the front door called the cops. The 768 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 7: deputies arrived, They immediately smell cannabis. 769 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 6: The woman gives permission. 770 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 7: Big brother, what's that called when you give permission to 771 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 7: come in and search. 772 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,840 Speaker 4: That's called consent. 773 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,560 Speaker 6: That's right. 774 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 7: They gave consent to search, so these cops didn't need 775 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,839 Speaker 7: to go get a warrant. The cops found three count them, 776 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:58,239 Speaker 7: three cannabis cultivation setups, glass smoking pipes, one hundred and 777 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 7: thirty two thhc, eight pens, a digital scale, a vacuum sealer, 778 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 7: and more than four hundred and fifty grams of concentrated cannabis. 779 00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,319 Speaker 3: Idiot, you know, you know I was gonna say, Joe, 780 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,160 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, normally, I like, you know, busting 781 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 3: the illegal grow isn't my favorite thing, but he freaking 782 00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:21,800 Speaker 3: deserved it. 783 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 2: A matter of fact, smelling with a plant whack. 784 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, you never. 785 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:27,719 Speaker 2: Hit your woman. 786 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:28,879 Speaker 4: Never never hit a woman. 787 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 2: Never. 788 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,600 Speaker 7: This was some It wasn't just some kind of RinkyDink operation. 789 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 7: This guy had two cultivation setups that had their own 790 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,280 Speaker 7: air duck systems, lights, fans, and what the police described 791 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 7: as a ten. 792 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 6: Well more more more alleged. 793 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,400 Speaker 7: And a total of forty cannabis plants were found. Drug 794 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:58,840 Speaker 7: officials also found a false wall inside the master bedroom 795 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,240 Speaker 7: that had a door. They opened the door, they find 796 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 7: a third cannabis grow in a jacuzzi. 797 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,960 Speaker 6: You had it in a jacuzzi. 798 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 7: The makeshift room had an air duck system, lights and fans. 799 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 6: He had the whole thing going. 800 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 7: And then he had to go do the wrong thing, 801 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 7: beat on his wife. And now he is facing numerous 802 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 7: charges including cultivation of cannabis, felony, possession of cannabis with 803 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 7: intent to sell, and domestic battery. 804 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 2: That's the one moral one I think he really deserves, 805 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: because you know. 806 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,200 Speaker 6: All of it. They should throw all of it at 807 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 6: him for what he did to that woman. 808 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 7: And I can only think of one thing when I 809 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:43,720 Speaker 7: read this story. 810 00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 6: Hell, hath no fury like a woman scorned. 811 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,359 Speaker 7: She gave them consent to come right in and showed 812 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 7: them where everything any of that. 813 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 6: So the moral of the she wasn't charged with anything, but. 814 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:01,400 Speaker 5: Couldn't Can she get the grownuse? What if he says, oh, 815 00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 5: she's growing it with me. What if he throws he 816 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 5: under the bus like that? 817 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 6: Wow, I'm saying, I guess I guess he. I guess 818 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 6: he could try. 819 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 7: But who's gonna believe the guy who just beat the 820 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 7: ship out of embody, slammed and punched in the head 821 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 7: his girlfriend. And the moral of this story is don't 822 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:17,920 Speaker 7: piss off your woman when you have an. 823 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 4: Ever. 824 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,800 Speaker 7: And that, my friends, is when cannabis goes really bad. 825 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 2: Well there it is, guys. I want to I want 826 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 2: to say this man our hearts, you know, go out 827 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:34,759 Speaker 2: to all the lost people that we've lost to coronavirus sincerely, 828 00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: you know. From Cannabis Talk one on one. We want 829 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,239 Speaker 2: to share our love to you guys and your families 830 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: and also the people that have lost their jobs, that 831 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: are that are going through some difficult times, you know, 832 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: and I really feel that that's something we want to 833 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:48,240 Speaker 2: talk about. 834 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I also also I want to say it 835 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,359 Speaker 5: extended from Cannabis Talk one on one, deepest and most 836 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 5: heartfelt condolences to the Charlotte's family and friends from Charlotte Fiji. 837 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,760 Speaker 2: She inspired you know, the Charlotte's Web CBD. 838 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 5: She passed away not too long ago, and shoot there 839 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 5: that whole story was just a major inspiration to the 840 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 5: cannabis world. 841 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,839 Speaker 2: Well there it is, guys. It's Cannabis Talk one on one. 842 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: And remember, if no one else loves you. 843 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,560 Speaker 1: We do. Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one 844 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,160 Speaker 1: oh one on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever 845 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:25,560 Speaker 1: you get your podcasts,