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Speaker 1: making every moment more during Super Bowl fifty seven. Hi, everybody,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to our Friday morning podcast, Nick Wright. We

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Speaker 1: bring on Nick about once a month and it's always

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Speaker 1: as funny and smart of thirty minutes as we have.

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Speaker 1: I thought I'd rant for about ten minutes on something

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Speaker 1: FS one, But you know, this is why I have

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Speaker 1: this podcast company. So I saw this story today and

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Speaker 1: it's a story that's been simmering and been discussed a

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Speaker 1: lot in the last two weeks on the interweb. And

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Speaker 1: it doesn't really mean anything because Tony Romo makes seventeen

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Speaker 1: million dollars a year guaranteed. But Andrew Marshan on his podcast,

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Speaker 1: a New York Post radio TV critic media critic had

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Speaker 1: said that CBS was getting concerned about Tony Romo's sort

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Speaker 1: of unconventional style, undisciplined style, and there's been slippage with

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Speaker 1: Tony Romo. My takeaway was for no other reason than

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Speaker 1: because I don't talk a lot of media. But I've

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Speaker 1: been doing this for thirty years, and I thought this

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Speaker 1: kind of instructive. So when you get out of the

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Speaker 1: NFL or NBA or any sport, but let's talk NFL

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Speaker 1: and Tony Romo, who I think does a fine job.

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Speaker 1: I've never already bought into the hype. I thought predicting

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Speaker 1: plays was kind of silly and overrated. It doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: The media freaked out. I don't care. That's not why

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Speaker 1: I watch you to predict plays. I look for insight

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Speaker 1: that I wouldn't get interviews, I wouldn't get information I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't get elsewhere. And that's why I think Greg Olsen,

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Speaker 1: first get out of the league, your first year or two,

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Speaker 1: Two things are happening. Number One, there's younger general managers

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Speaker 1: three to four years. So a guy like Romo can

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Speaker 1: come out of football have a real understanding of the personnel,

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Speaker 1: the rosters, the coordinators, and then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: some of those coordinators leave, go to different places, go

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Speaker 1: to college football. The rosters turnover three or four years later,

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Speaker 1: and you really have to do your homework. And the

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Speaker 1: knock on Romo, and I'll get to this more in

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Speaker 1: a second, is that he doesn't really put the time in.

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Speaker 1: So networks get really, really frustrated when they pay you

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Speaker 1: and you're not prepared. So Romo makes seventeen million a year,

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Speaker 1: that's been reported. And if you consider that Jim Nance

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Speaker 1: talks for more than half of the broadcast, sideline reports, commercials,

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Speaker 1: the game itself, Romo's probably talking for twenty five minutes

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Speaker 1: once a week. They want you to be really, really

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Speaker 1: air fifteen hours a week ad libbing with no game,

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Speaker 1: just talking. You're gonna make mistakes. Charles Barkley, By the way,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't follow half the league. When the Lakers made

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Speaker 1: a acquisition or a trade recently for a wing from

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Speaker 1: the Wizards, Shack had never heard of him. He covers

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Speaker 1: the NBA. So Shack Barkley Television's entertainment Harry Kerry was

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Speaker 1: a legend. He was drunk on the air at various times.

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Speaker 1: But football is different. You get twenty million viewers. It

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Speaker 1: they want you to be dialed in. I always had

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Speaker 1: this theory that and I use this for years when

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Speaker 1: asked him if they loved golf, Oh, I love golf.

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Speaker 1: thing Aaron Rodgers does in the offseason. He goes in golfs.

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Speaker 1: But I've always felt like Tony Romo is one of

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Speaker 1: That's not why you know. I mean, if he did

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Speaker 1: not why I'm watching you. But when you're only talking

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Speaker 1: for people who've never done it. Romo and Jim nance

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Speaker 1: It's not easy. But when I listen to Greg Olsen,

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Speaker 1: He's winging it. And again, I think Barkley and Shack

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't matter. They're on the air for hours

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Speaker 1: This stuff gets out by the way. Marshand said, CBS

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Speaker 1: a belief that when Lebron James breaks Kareem Abdul Jabbar's

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Speaker 1: and Lebron the last several years. I believe they've been

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Speaker 1: been great for fifteen years. He's changed teams, but finals, finals, finals, finals, finals, finals.

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Speaker 1: Once he started getting to him, he went back to

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Speaker 1: been a lot of swings to Lebron's career. Great early, great,

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Speaker 1: The story arcs Brett Farve was problem early then he

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Speaker 1: always will work. People that get along, that are smart,

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Speaker 1: that know what they're talking about will always work. Well. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I don't watch that show, but I know the

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00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: people on it and they're likable and they're fun. And

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00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: this mug is from war the radio station that cut me.

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00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 1: That's so fun. They've sent it to me today. Hey listen,

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Speaker 1: you're fine, here's a mug. Yeah, yeah, that's right, that's right. Um.

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Speaker 1: So people think from time to time, I don't like

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Speaker 1: certain people. I don't like Russell Westbrooks half court game.

431
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 1: He's probably a wonderful guy. It drives me crazy. I

432
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: don't like I don't like the neediness of Aaron Rodgers.

433
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,520
Speaker 1: I think he's a smart guy and a wonderful quarterback. Um.

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Speaker 1: But I do think about it that if I ran

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00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: into Aaron or Russell, they wouldn't like me. And I

436
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,159
Speaker 1: totally get that. Andy Dalton once ran into me and

437
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 1: I called him the Babe water Pistol for a decade,

438
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:08,399
Speaker 1: and he was really really sweet. But Rogers is a

439
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 1: fascinating person because he really does project a lot. He

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00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: had another one this week when he said, apparently they're

441
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: doing discussions. You know, I'm not involved, which is interesting,

442
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: and I thought it's interesting, Aaron, You're so smart, but

443
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 1: you lack of basic self awareness that you are projecting constantly, passive, aggressively,

444
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: and it's why you know I've said this about Aaron.

445
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 1: We give too much credit to talent. What really separates

446
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 1: Mahomes is his self awareness. He's so eff and good

447
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: at the podium. He is such a good teammate. He

448
00:28:53,400 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: almost never ever compliments himself. He goes the talent thing.

449
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: I think that Mahomes is gifted, But I think when

450
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: I talked to Sean Payton, I went to dinner with him,

451
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 1: spent four hours with him. Sean Payton told me that

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00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: they flew in to Lubbock or wherever god forsaken town

453
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: he played college football in. Yeah, they wanted to draft him,

454
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: but go ahead. After the workout, they brought in information

455
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 1: they thought would overwhelm him and would take three days.

456
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: Within two hours, he had digested it and was vomiting

457
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: it out to them. He said, it's the smartest player

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Speaker 1: I'd ever interviewed. We got on a plane, we told

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Speaker 1: nobody we were there, and Sean said it was the

460
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback I'd ever worked out or gone to a whiteboard,

461
00:29:53,760 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: and that where Mahomes is underrated. His ability to consume information,

462
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: see things and let go of the ball instinctively is

463
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Speaker 1: the greatest I've ever seen. I think. I think Josh

464
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,440
Speaker 1: Allen has a stronger arm. I think Lamar is faster.

465
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: I think Kyler Murray is almost more elusive. I think

466
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: above the shoulders, Mahomes is almost the performance artist. He's

467
00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 1: he's prince, he is He's the world looks different. His

468
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: dad was on I'll mention second second Danny Parkins shout out.

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Speaker 1: But his dad was on Danny's radio show a couple

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Speaker 1: days ago and said, the Bear the reason Mahomes counted

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Speaker 1: on his fingers when he scored a touch sound against

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Speaker 1: the Bears was because the Bears told him were drafting

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Speaker 1: you at three and then they trade it up for

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Speaker 1: Traubisky and Mahomes was crushed because he really wanted to

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Speaker 1: go to Chicago. But in that same interview, and I'd

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Speaker 1: never heard anyone say this, he said that Patrick has

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Speaker 1: an idetic memory, which I just googled what that meant. Yes,

478
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 1: and that you can see something once and then always

479
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: be able to pull it back, which I'd never heard

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Speaker 1: someone say that about him. And maybe that's a dad,

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00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, embellishing about his kid. I don't know. But

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Speaker 1: if that's true or something close to it, And what

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Speaker 1: you know, you're saying, Sean Payton told you it does

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you have like so for

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Speaker 1: let me give you a for instance, Lebron has the

486
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Speaker 1: highest basketball like you I've ever seen, plus kind of

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Speaker 1: the perfect body for basketball. If you it's like, hey,

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00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: I want to play twenty years in the NBA. It's like, Okay,

489
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Speaker 1: you're gonna have to be big enough to withstand injuries,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, tall enough. It's like, okay,

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Speaker 1: so when check check on like a brain thing and

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00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: a body thing that leads you to this, right, Mahomes

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00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: has the physical gifts of like the crazy arm angle

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Speaker 1: stuff and the alarm strength from playing baseball. So that's

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00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: like the physical stuff check the memory thing that now

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Speaker 1: we've had Sean Payton talk about his dad talk about

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Speaker 1: it feels like we have contemporary evidence from seeing how

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Speaker 1: he plays. Yea, like, oh, there might have been like

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Speaker 1: two genetic lottery things where it's like the in the

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Speaker 1: same way that Michael Phelps like has the webbed fingers

501
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,239
Speaker 1: and toes. It's like, oh, so it's like, it's not

502
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Speaker 1: just that you work so hard in all these things,

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Speaker 1: you also happen to be kind of blest specifically for

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Speaker 1: this type of greatness. Yes, and so because there is

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Speaker 1: an element with Patrick and I think you want to

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Speaker 1: talk Rogers talk Rodgers too, but with Patrick of he

507
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 1: can he can, with the exception of like a three

508
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: week stretch during last season, he can instantly figure out

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Speaker 1: what the defense is doing and within a half adjust

510
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Speaker 1: if need be in a way that I've seen very

511
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: few quarterbacks ever consistently be able to do, and the

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Speaker 1: only one that I've seen be able to do it

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Speaker 1: at this level is Manning. And Manning's problem, I think

514
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: problems listening. He's one of three best quarterbacks ever. But

515
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 1: for Peyton, what I think heard him a bit was

516
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: he had that ability and almost couldn't turn it off

517
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Speaker 1: to where if guys weren't where they were supposed to be,

518
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Speaker 1: or guys through He didn't have the improvisational ability that

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Speaker 1: Patrick has, which are as good as anyone I've ever seen, Yeah,

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00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: as good as anyone I've ever seen. What do you

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Speaker 1: think's going to happen with Aaron? I think Green Bay

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00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,719
Speaker 1: ideally wants to send him to the Raiders because with

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Speaker 1: Peyton and Russ Herbert and Kellen Moore and Andy and

524
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Speaker 1: Maha Holmes, he'll finish in the fourth place. And so

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Speaker 1: if Jordan Love is bumpy initially, which Aaron was in

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00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,760
Speaker 1: his first year, that you know, Minnesota's not going eleven

527
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 1: and no one one score games, Chicago still awful, and

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Speaker 1: Detroit still Detroit, although they're better that I don't think

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Speaker 1: they know quite yet what Jordan is. But if they

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Speaker 1: can get another first round pick, address their tight end

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Speaker 1: situation edge rusher, and get supplemental picks, right that if

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00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 1: the Jordan loves situations a little bumpy, Aaron's not crushing

533
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:40,800
Speaker 1: light in the world. Yeah, yeah, so, and I think

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00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 1: I think they want to move off. And and I

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00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 1: think this is why the Raiders right now are holding

536
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,880
Speaker 1: on a Derek Car that the Raiders may be saying

537
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: the Raiders don't want to give up as much. I

538
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 1: think Green Bay has leaked already publicly. All this stuff

539
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,800
Speaker 1: gets out Nick because somebody wants it out already leaked

540
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: afc all, there's Aaron even said it. Well, they're talking

541
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 1: about me. So Green Bay wants it out to the league,

542
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: not Aaron. We are ready to move off him. Their

543
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: takeaway is we don't know exactly know what Jordan Love is,

544
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: but what we don't want is far of to the Vikings,

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00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: good at least for a year. Correct and listen, I

546
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 1: the Jets obviously one them. They hired Hackett. Here's my

547
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: but I think Jets Raiders are obviously the leading contenders.

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00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 1: Here's my question. Let's say Rogers does go to the

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00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 1: AFC honest question here and then I'll give I'll give

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00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: you the possibilities. Does that make Dak Prescott the second

551
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the NFC? Like it's Jaalen one and

552
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: Jaalen by the way, I still think has some real

553
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: question marks, So I give him credit for what he's

554
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,000
Speaker 1: Stafford staff The problem for Stafford, though, is he's got

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00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: an elbow and a spine injury, and he's an older

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00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,719
Speaker 1: like I mean, and even the year he won the

557
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, he led the league in picks and pick

558
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 1: sixes like and even if he is good, I think

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00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,319
Speaker 1: that team's not going to be good. Like I was

560
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: thinking about it, I was like, I mean, Kyler is

561
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: a torn acl is a pain in the ass, and

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00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: nobody seems like Justin Fields is a great runner. We've

563
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: seen nothing like I was because I was just going

564
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: down the list of NFC quarterbacks because Jerry came out.

565
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I was like, we want Dak for the next ten years.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, man, in the AFC, if Dak were

567
00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: your quarterback, you'd say we have to upgrade. In the

568
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: NFCU say he might be the best quarterback left in

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Speaker 1: the conference. In a few months, it's crazy. It's crazy

570
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Speaker 1: the level of discrepancy between quarterback talent and the two conferences.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Trevor Lawrence, I think would be clearly the

572
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the NFC, and I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he is top five in the AFC right now. Well,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes would be, Alan would be Burrow, Herbert Lawrence, Lamar,

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Speaker 1: maybe de Sean to see if he ever gets it

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Speaker 1: back where it's seven. I mean the I mean there's

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Speaker 1: tann It's crazy Tannehill goes to Carolina tomorrow. He's no

578
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Speaker 1: worse than third in What's insane? Yeah, I mean, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if two is gonna play again. I don't

580
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: think he's that great he would be in the discussion

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00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: over there, I mean it is, it is bananas, Like

582
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: it's such a discrepancy. I feel like the NFL like

583
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: has to behind the scenes be like talking about like

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00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: what do we do here? Because we can't we we

585
00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: need to find a way to get sitting now. I

586
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: think they're probably thrilled Chicago got the number one pick,

587
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: but the problem in Chicago's not gonna take a quarterback,

588
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: Like are they calling the Bears like you have to

589
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:14,240
Speaker 1: trade that pick? To an NFC team, Well, you can't

590
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Speaker 1: have it. It's crazy networks in the last several years,

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00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: remember when, um, because the AFC has always had the

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Speaker 1: smaller markets except Boston, the NFC's always had the bigger

593
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Speaker 1: markets M Saint Louis became Los Angeles, San Francisco, Philadelphia, Chicago, Dallas, Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: whereas the AFC has got a lot of Cincinnatis, h Nashville.

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Speaker 1: All right, And so for several years ago Fox started

596
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: losing occasional games to CBS, and then in the league

597
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: said we're going to even it out. Now they're still

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00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: doing that, but Fox will probably get an increased note

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00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 1: I would think so, Yeah, because because you need it's

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00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 1: a quarterback league and they didn't mean for it to

601
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: happen this way, right, But like I know this much,

602
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: they need Caleb Williams to the NFC. Yeah, they need that.

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00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: Listen for years and years, I you know how I

604
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 1: love theories and figuring stuff out, the jigsaw puzzle of sports.

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00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:22,919
Speaker 1: For twenty years, I couldn't have figured it out. Why

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00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 1: the f is the Western Conference always better than the

607
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference? And I could not. I mean I had

608
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,440
Speaker 1: weather theories, the West has better weather players don't like

609
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:39,280
Speaker 1: these Eastern turbulent flights cold weather off of plane because

610
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Miami gets good players. So I thought, well, maybe it's

611
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: a weather thing. And then Mark Cuban. Mark Cuban said

612
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:47,920
Speaker 1: something to me one time, and he said, the West

613
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: has way better general managers outside of Miami. That's why

614
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: Miami engineers better trades. They've got a great general manager.

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00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: And by the way, and then Boston got good with

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Speaker 1: Danny Ainge, who now moves West, and that sometimes it's

617
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: just so. The truth is the AFC has had better

618
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Speaker 1: gms make better picks on quarterbacks. By the way, Howie Roseman,

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Speaker 1: great GM, found Jalen Hurts in the second round, less

620
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Steed went An engineered a deal to get Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1: The AFC is hit on more of the quarterback picks,

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Speaker 1: better GMing and the and I also think that there

623
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Speaker 1: was you had Brady obviously went to the NFC. Rogers

624
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: was there, Breeze was there, and it was it was

625
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: kind of being propped up by these old the last

626
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Speaker 1: three years, by these much older quarterbacks, two of which

627
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: have now retired and one might be leaving the conference.

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Speaker 1: And it puts him in a really rough spot a

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Speaker 1: really rough spot, like you know who they really would

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Speaker 1: like to be as star as Trey Lance, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean, like God, because they spent that draft

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Speaker 1: pick on him, Like, hey, listen to spot man. If

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones is a nine or quarterback, they beat Philadelphia potentially,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, absolutely, because he's just a distribuer that the

635
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,719
Speaker 1: knock on tree as he's not accurate. That's why Shanahan,

636
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: like Kirk Cousins, like Matt Ryan, preferred Matt Jones. It

637
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 1: was almost your worst nightmare because you know, if he

638
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: wasn't a ram, he might have ended up being a

639
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: nine er Baker Mayfield. Did you imagine if that was

640
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,719
Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield coming to the rescue in that game, is

641
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 1: that is Josh Johnson cutting up the Philadelphia Eagles going

642
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl? We would have been legend, Derek,

643
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw something at you. Yep. When Quentin Tarantino

644
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: came on the scene, it's all anybody talked about for

645
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 1: two years. Spielberg has done far more, far longer, but

646
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: it wasn't new and shiny and fun. That We're not

647
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: dissing Lebron or Brady or Spielberg, but we like the

648
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,480
Speaker 1: new stuff we like, the new restaurant, the new nightclub,

649
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,839
Speaker 1: the new job Morant, Zion Williamson, Josh Allen, who you've

650
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: accurately said, we like him more than his game produces,

651
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: and that I think Lebron was great, early, great, middle, great, late.

652
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: He's never had the story arcs going to baseball like

653
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: MJ the fight with his GM, the no couldn't win

654
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 1: without Pippin, then had Pippin, and then he left for baseball,

655
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: and then he came back and then he lost to Orlando.

656
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: Michael's career had so many different chapters. Lebron, Spielberg, Brady, great, early, great, middle, great, late.

657
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: What's there to say? Well, yeah, I think there's that.

658
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: I also think that when the so I don't know

659
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 1: if you saw this, but you're by when people here

660
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: or see this, it'll it'll be I think on February

661
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 1: third is when this will come out. Your former employer

662
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 1: is doing across all shows tomorrow because tomorrow is two

663
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: three slash twenty three Michael Jordan tributes and if I

664
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 1: understand the timing on the calendar, but you also can't

665
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 1: convince me that's not some editorial decisions by folks who

666
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 1: are heavily invested in Michael Jordan remaining the gold standard

667
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:29,279
Speaker 1: for everything that we are going to be potentially a

668
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:34,439
Speaker 1: day away from Lebron breaking Kareem's record, and we're gonna

669
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: have wal to wal Michael Jordan coverage. I mean, give

670
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: me a goddamn break. And so there is I think

671
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: there has been so much of our sports logic forever

672
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: has been I shouldn't say forever for the last thirty years,

673
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 1: has not been based on what is objectively the best,

674
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: but has been based on what is objectively the most

675
00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: similar to Michael Jordan's arc that we have. We've perverted

676
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 1: so many arguments like Tim Duncan was a more successful,

677
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: more impactful, more winning, more everything than Kobe Bryant. But

678
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: when you say Tim Duncan was better than Kobe, it

679
00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: breaks some people's brains because they're not judging who's better,

680
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: They're judging who remind you more of Michael Jordans. I'm

681
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: old enough to remember, as are you, that when Tom

682
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: Brady before he got to seven rings, after the Seattle

683
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, when he had four rings and then two

684
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: Super Bowl losses, there were people that argued Joe Montana's

685
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: four rings were better than Brady's four rings because Montana

686
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:56,280
Speaker 1: never lost a Super Bowl, which is objectively idiotic because

687
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: it just means he didn't get there. But the reason

688
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 1: that was the case was because we had already decided

689
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: that Jordan's six and ozho was better than Kareem's six

690
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 1: and four, which never made any sense objectively speaking, that

691
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: same logic would dictate by the way that Patrick Mahomes actually,

692
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: if he loses in the week, yeah, that logic dictates,

693
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, it was bad for him to have this

694
00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:30,239
Speaker 1: legendary performance on one leg and beat the Bengals. Would

695
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: have been better to just lose that game, because losses

696
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: pre championship round don't hurt you, but losses in the

697
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:42,240
Speaker 1: championship round due so much of it is about protecting

698
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: the narrative. And I think the Lebron if we wanted

699
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: to tell the Lebron story the same way people want

700
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: to tell the Michael Jordan's story, the story of overcoming

701
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:02,439
Speaker 1: incompetent coaching at various steps, were coming incompetent teammates, of

702
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 1: having no true like basketball training, he's come straight out

703
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: of high school. Suppose having Dean Smith instead of coming

704
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 1: from a great two parent household, he had one parent

705
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: incredibly poor, and that one parent dealt with their own issues.

706
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 1: All of that could be part of the legend, but

707
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: since the guy's been twenty seven, a huge part of

708
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: the story surrounding him has been discrediting what he's accomplished

709
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: because people want to protect Jordan. I truly believe that,

710
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: and I think we're still seeing it. Can I throw

711
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,279
Speaker 1: this in? This is engineered by Michael, who remains a

712
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: grudgeholder and incredibly petty. And the reason he okayed use

713
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: of certain footage to ESPN because after Lebron beat the

714
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: Warriors there were real discussions that Lebron's better than MJ

715
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: and m the next day, then okated the day after

716
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 1: the parade. Yep, and now as Lebron gets ready to

717
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 1: set the record. This is not coincidental. Michael is petty,

718
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: He's a grudge holder. He still holds a grudge to

719
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas, who the f cares anymore about it, but

720
00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: Charles Barkley, who used to be his best friend. It's

721
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: the and it is just I don't think because and

722
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 1: but the other part of it, forget the Michael part

723
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: of it. The other part of it is on the

724
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: media writ large for just deciding what we are and

725
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: are not going to treat with importance. I made this

726
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: point on the TV show, but I didn't make it

727
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: to you. I think you'll agree with me. There was

728
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 1: far more day by day, breathless coverage of Steph Curry

729
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: breaking the three point record last year then there has

730
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 1: been about Lebron breaking the all time points record. Last

731
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: night or Wednesday night, Lebron passed four and five in

732
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: the all time assists rankings. Nobody cares. So he's going

733
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 1: to be top four and assist the day he becomes

734
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 1: number one in points, and it feels like it has

735
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: been a sub story. Go ahead, no, you know, Nick,

736
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: One of the things I've noticed by the media. I

737
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: never blame fans It's short for fanatic for having favorites.

738
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 1: That's why they're great. But one of the things I've noticed,

739
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: I remember Jerry Seinfeld was asked, it was like two

740
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: years ago, and he was asked about the media and

741
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,719
Speaker 1: the COVID coverage and people and their opinions, and you know,

742
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: I remember reading somewhere Jerry Seinfeld said, well, maybe the

743
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,840
Speaker 1: media should do a better job. And I do believe

744
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 1: the media can be condescending. They have agendas. I see

745
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 1: it in the coverage about our careers where it's so

746
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,600
Speaker 1: I only can judge based on information I have and

747
00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: stuff that's written about our careers radio, TV. What's it

748
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: like for politicians? What's it like for star athletes? So

749
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: I don't think what's funny is Jordan basically refused to

750
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: talk to Sports Illustrated because of a cover. Jordan won't

751
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: talk to Isaiah Thomas or Charles Barkley. He's petty. Lebron

752
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: James may call out certain people, but Lebron has been

753
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:39,560
Speaker 1: the most available NBA star outside of maybe Magic of

754
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: My Life. He is every night local, broadcast, regional, every night.

755
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: And he doesn't do the big sit down interviews anymore

756
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: except for, you know, maybe once a year, unless it's

757
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 1: with his own company. You know, he has his own

758
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: production company, so he does with him, which makes sense.

759
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: But I'm talking all the time, and it's just it

760
00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:08,960
Speaker 1: is incredibly frustrating to me. And the other thing that

761
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:14,759
Speaker 1: is also frustrating to me is that none of us,

762
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: myself included, none of us thought it was possible for

763
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: him to be in year twenty playing like this year

764
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: nineteen and twenty he's averaging thirty points thirty six minutes

765
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: per game, better than fifty percent shooting. None of us

766
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: thought it was possible, and yet almost nobody has stopped

767
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: to appreciate it. We didn't think it was possible, and

768
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 1: then we instantly started taking it for granted. And they're like, oh,

769
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: they're not winning enough, which is true except for the

770
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:50,200
Speaker 1: fact that this is an unbelievable stat. When Lebron's on

771
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: the court, Colin, the Lakers have a better net rating

772
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 1: than Milwaukee. When he's off the court, they have a

773
00:50:58,200 --> 00:51:02,719
Speaker 1: worse net rating than the Hornets. So with the teammates

774
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: around him, when he plays, they are a one contenders.

775
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,880
Speaker 1: When he goes to the bench, they're a bottom three team.

776
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,080
Speaker 1: And I mean, that's an indictment on the general managing

777
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 1: and on the roster construction, but it's not an indictment

778
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:24,279
Speaker 1: on Lebron. The other night, I was I went to

779
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 1: dinner with my daughter and I was at the bar

780
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: at Craig's in West Hollywood. Oh, that's where you and

781
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 1: I went. Yeah, I think, isn't that where you and

782
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,799
Speaker 1: I went? Yeah? I think so, yeah, yeah. And so

783
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 1: the net Celtics first quarter was on and it was

784
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: it was about ten feet away from me, and the

785
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: sound was down, and I was watching it and it

786
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: was like, you know, forty six nineteen or something, and

787
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: you know, I didn't hear what was happening. But it

788
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 1: is really interesting that. And I made this point today

789
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: on FS one. Stafford left of the Rams because they

790
00:52:03,560 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: had a better coach and a better roster. It was

791
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: about winning. Peyton went to the Broncos. Go back and

792
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: look at that roster. It was about winning. Tom left

793
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 1: New England because he saw the league pivoting the offense.

794
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,600
Speaker 1: They literally in New England could not draft or develop

795
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: a singular wide receiver as last year in Foxborough. The

796
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 1: cameras caught him one game screaming at receivers somebody get open, separate.

797
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: So Tom actually went to dysfunctional Tampa to win more.

798
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: He had control of the offense and offensive coach and weapons.

799
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson went to Denver for the right reasons. It

800
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: just didn't work out. They had they had better players.

801
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: But let me criticize the NBA for this. Kevin Durant

802
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: left winning to go play with a friend. Lebron left

803
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: four straight finals for business. Kyrie left winning to be

804
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: the man, and Mello left winning in Denver, which he

805
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 1: did a lot of for a city. And at one

806
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 1: of the reasons I think fans really like the NFL

807
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: is because the players feel like all they care about

808
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 1: is winning, not being the man, not playing with friends.

809
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:09,799
Speaker 1: If Mahomes left the Chief to the Jets to play

810
00:53:09,840 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: with a friend, he would be laughed out of the league.

811
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: It would be insane because your chances of winning is that.

812
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:21,759
Speaker 1: When players talk about, you know, KD you're a casual

813
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, sometimes you guys treat winning casually. Well,

814
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,959
Speaker 1: Can I push back on that please? Okay? So Durant, though,

815
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:38,800
Speaker 1: also left Oklahoma City purely for winning and got crossed

816
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:42,760
Speaker 1: for it. Got you didn't, I'll give you credit, you didn't,

817
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: but in the bigger picture got crossed for it. Lebron

818
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: left Cleveland to go to Miami. Yes with friends, yes weather,

819
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,000
Speaker 1: yes all that, but also to win. Went back to

820
00:53:55,040 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland and one and yes, going to Los Angeles. There

821
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: were a lot of side benefits to it, but he

822
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,360
Speaker 1: believed he could win there and he did. So you

823
00:54:07,400 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's not like Lebron's gone anywhere

824
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 1: and not I think the distinction I would draw as this,

825
00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:19,239
Speaker 1: I think the true NBA superstars either you know, sometimes

826
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: correctly and sometimes incorrectly, believe where I go, we will win.

827
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 1: So I might as well go to a city I

828
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 1: want to be in. I might as well play with

829
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,040
Speaker 1: my friend because I am going to be the reason

830
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: that winning that you know that winning happens, so I

831
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 1: should be able to do it, and you know wherever

832
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: I want to do it. I also think I think

833
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: that there's I think the NBA has a few significant

834
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:53,759
Speaker 1: kind of structural issues that I don't have the immediate

835
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 1: fixed too, but one of them if you do want

836
00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: kind of a more spr at out stars, and you

837
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 1: do want the stars to have less leverage. Actually, I

838
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 1: do think that one of the problems they have is

839
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:15,080
Speaker 1: the capped individual max contracts puts a lot like teams

840
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: can't offer more, they're actually not being I talked to

841
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: a GM once and I was like, why do you

842
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: think these teams, you know, kind of cowtow to the

843
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: certain players sometimes and he goes, well, he goes, you know,

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Speaker 1: for the true superstars, they're all underpaid and so you

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Speaker 1: have to pay them in extra stuff, either influence or

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Speaker 1: how you treat them or all these things. He goes,

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Speaker 1: if you know, if a guy's worth seventy million, if

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Speaker 1: you're paying him seventy million. Oddly enough, his argument was,

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Speaker 1: you actually have more control because it's like, hey, we

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Speaker 1: paid you your actual market value, we expect to get X,

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Speaker 1: Y and z. But when a guy's worth seventy million

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Speaker 1: and you're capped out at paying him thirty five, and

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Speaker 1: then he's like, I don't want to play him back

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Speaker 1: to backs and I want my buddies to be able

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Speaker 1: to write on the team flight these things, It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: damn it. We can only offer you what everyone can

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Speaker 1: offer you, So whoever says yes to it is then

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Speaker 1: going to get you know what I mean, It's gonna

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Speaker 1: sometimes get the free agency decision. So I actually think

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Speaker 1: sorry about that. I actually think oddly that individual player

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Speaker 1: cab has caused a lot of these issues because everyone's

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Speaker 1: offering the same amount and no, and it also makes

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Speaker 1: it to where you can't just say, hold on, I

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Speaker 1: want I want to offer Jannis eighty million dollars and

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Speaker 1: see if he can turn it down. And if you

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Speaker 1: do that, then there wouldn't be super team. So I

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Speaker 1: think that's one of the issues, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's changing at any point. All Right, buddy, that's forty

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Speaker 1: five minutes. That's more than we could have ever asked for.

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Speaker 1: Nick Wright co host. First things first, Also, he has

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Speaker 1: his podcast What's Right with Nick Wright. You, Bruce Are

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Speaker 1: and Kevin Wilds are so infinitely likable in the chemistry.

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Speaker 1: So Jason McIntyre, who's now my show, I feel very lucky.

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Speaker 1: I've had Joy and McIntyre back to back. Both make

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Speaker 1: me laugh. And McIntyre we had a really we had

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Speaker 1: more highest rated month in January Colation. Yeah, thanks, and

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Speaker 1: which is kind of cool because FS one and every

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Speaker 1: other cable networks lost thirty percent of their subs over

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Speaker 1: the last six years, so it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 1: And you know, Jason asked me about two weeks ago.

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Speaker 1: He so it's like, what do you think we're doing

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Speaker 1: really well? Why? And I said, because we like each

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Speaker 1: other and because people just want to hang out. They're

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Speaker 1: not sitting there with a notepad. Oh oh, he made

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Speaker 1: a mistake. Oh, people want to feel like your people

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Speaker 1: they'd hang out with. And when I watch your Guys show,

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Speaker 1: it looks like if you gave each of you a

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Speaker 1: cocktail and a bar stool. It's literally shit talking among

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Speaker 1: friends and it's horrific. Well, that's very very kind of you.

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Speaker 1: We obviously are very fortunate to have you. As you know,

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Speaker 1: we couldn't ask for a better leading I am, we've been.

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Speaker 1: It's a hell of a leading and so that's been wonderful.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not listening. I don't have

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Speaker 1: access to the data, but in your highest rated month,

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Speaker 1: I would imagine your highest rated segments were Tuesdays around

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Speaker 1: one pm Eastern when I come on with you. That

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Speaker 1: make its just power pack fifteen minutes. But the show

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Speaker 1: has been a ton of fun and we the podcast

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Speaker 1: I do with my son, Yes, as of a couple

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Speaker 1: days ago, hit a hundred thousand subscribers on YouTube. We've

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Speaker 1: been doing it less than a year, so that's pretty

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Speaker 1: dope as well, and I so I appreciate that. And

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Speaker 1: I can't wait when I fly in on Wednesday to Arizona.

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Speaker 1: So as soon as I land, I'm gonna come see you,

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Speaker 1: because you got a little shin dig going, So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna try to make it before it closes up shop. Yep.

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Speaker 1: The Volume party in downtown Phoenix. As always, Buddy, it's

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Speaker 1: great seeing you YouTube. Talk to later come the volume.

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Speaker 1: Make sure to check out The Draymond Green Show. I

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