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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Ink

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Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are going to take

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Speaker 1: a look at the ravens thirty five to fourteen win

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Speaker 1: over the New York Giants and have a conversation about

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, that guy that we love to talk about,

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Speaker 1: and just how special a season he's having. So obviously

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Speaker 1: a great win over the Giants. Everybody you know predicted

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Speaker 1: the Ravens to win this game.

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Speaker 2: They did so.

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Speaker 1: And I'll start this by saying the narrative of like

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Speaker 1: the yawn after a blowout win just always kind of

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Speaker 1: bugs me a little bit, right because I.

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Speaker 2: Think the Ravens proved.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's this debate of like, oh, what did

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Speaker 1: they really prove anything beating the Giants, And like, to me, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they proved that they weren't going to fall into this

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Speaker 1: trap game that everybody asked them about all week long,

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Speaker 1: and they took care of business and did an impressive

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Speaker 1: fashion that to me proved something. And there were some

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Speaker 1: individual things by individual players that they also proved in

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Speaker 1: this game. So I'll just start there. I'll get on

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Speaker 1: my I mean, I agree, I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's important to win, even if you're

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Speaker 3: supposed to win, It's important to go win the game.

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Speaker 3: And the Ravens look good doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And to me, the whole question about this team right

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Speaker 1: now is can they get hot down the stretch and

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Speaker 1: into the playoffs. And that game was an indicator of

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Speaker 1: me to yes, they can, Like that was potentially a springboard.

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Speaker 2: Now they got to keep it going.

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Speaker 1: Obviously Saturday in a huge game against the Pittsburgh Steelers

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Speaker 1: that's going to have a lot more meaning and is

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Speaker 1: against you know, a much better team. But that to

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Speaker 1: me got the ball rolling momentum wise after what was

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Speaker 1: a frustrating bye week coming off the Eagles loss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I also think big picture wise, from a narrative standpoint,

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Speaker 3: I thought that the Ravens came out of the bye

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Speaker 3: week feeling like this is a new season, this is

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Speaker 3: the start of a run. That there's some themes that

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Speaker 3: I heard come up over and over again. New season refreshed,

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Speaker 3: it's an eight game season. Okay, well there's four left

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Speaker 3: in the regular season. Now you have four into the

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Speaker 3: play Yeah, that would be Bowl. And I think that

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Speaker 3: that all of those things clearly seem to be part

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Speaker 3: of the conversation behind the scenes that the Ravens are

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Speaker 3: talking about, and if it is an eight game season,

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Speaker 3: they kicked it off on the right note. And that's

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Speaker 3: what I think, that's what you want to see. You

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Speaker 3: want to beat the teams. At the end of the day,

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Speaker 3: wins and losses are all that matter. But it's good

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Speaker 3: to come off of the buy and deliver that kind

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Speaker 3: of commanding performance where he dominated the game really from

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Speaker 3: start to finish. And the guy who we're gonna spend

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Speaker 3: some time talking about, Lamar Jackson, delivers another historic game.

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Speaker 3: He the Jackson five. It's like, how many times we're

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Speaker 3: going to get to use the Jackson five references because

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Speaker 3: he just keeps having these games where he those five

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Speaker 3: touchdown passes and I think he's playing the best football

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Speaker 3: of his career.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's dive into that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we've we've had this conversation earlier in

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Speaker 1: the season, and then there's this kind of three game

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Speaker 1: stretch for Lamar where the offense and Lamar weren't quite

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Speaker 1: clicking at the same level as they were in October, right,

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Speaker 1: And you know, there were even some storylines out of

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Speaker 1: the by of oh, you know, Lamar's accuracy has been

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Speaker 1: down a little bit when you look at ball placement

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Speaker 2: Coming out of it.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, he threw more touchdowns than incompletions against

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Speaker 1: the Giants, and you look at some of those throws,

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Speaker 1: in particular, just two of the touchdown throws that he had,

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Speaker 1: the one that Mark andrews the Ravens first of the game,

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Speaker 1: I mean, just an elite throw right there from a

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Speaker 1: a Mark kind of did this stutter step. It was

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Speaker 1: like a rub route. It was like a fake rub route.

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Speaker 1: And then he went up the field, took it vertical,

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Speaker 1: and Lamar saw it immediately when he released that ball.

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Speaker 1: Mark was just coming out of that break. And then

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Speaker 1: Lamar put it in absolutely the best place possible. It

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Speaker 1: could not have been thrown better pinpoint pass. And then

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Speaker 1: I thought his second touchdown passed to overshot Babman. The

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Speaker 1: first one great play design. He broke wide open. Then

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Speaker 1: Lamar delivered the ball on the run. It was a

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Speaker 1: good throw. The second one was that was, according to

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Speaker 1: I get that the rave the Giants secondary was really

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Speaker 1: great defense this year in New York. But hey, I

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Speaker 1: don't care who's defending that pass that was going to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, going back to the Mark Andrews play, that seemed

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Speaker 3: to be something that that goes back to the field

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Speaker 3: that those two players have and Lamar, he just seems

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Speaker 3: to know that that linebacker Isaiah Simmons wasn't going to

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Speaker 3: turn his head on that play. Like as soon as Lamar,

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Speaker 3: as soon as Mark Andrews got a sliver of separation

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Speaker 3: and broke open, Lamar fired a dot on Andrews, and

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Speaker 3: he in the linebacker never really had a chance he

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Speaker 3: was he was just chasing Mark down the middle of

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Speaker 3: the field, and Lamar put it in perfect placement. Do

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Speaker 3: you think that that play, I'm curious. Was that play

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Speaker 3: part of a backyard street ball connection between those two

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Speaker 1: I think that that was the way the the play

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Speaker 1: was drawn up. Now, the way that Mark took it

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Speaker 1: after the kind of rub route, the fake kind of

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Speaker 1: rub route, I think was in part ad libbed a

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Speaker 1: little bit I think he maybe took it more vertical

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Speaker 2: Potentially, That's what he said after the game.

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Speaker 1: And you know, whether his kind of rub route was

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Speaker 1: really intended to actually be a rub route and the

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Speaker 1: he was kind of, you know, getting in the way

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Speaker 1: of his defender, that remains to be seen.

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Speaker 2: Also.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think Lamar certainly saw the

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Speaker 1: potential for Mark to get over the top of that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it just felt like based on the reaction that

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Speaker 3: Mark had it just of course it was the record

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Speaker 3: reaction that he had in the moment, the way that

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Speaker 3: John Harwall talked about it after the game, and the

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Speaker 3: connection and the field that the two of them have,

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Speaker 3: it just felt like it just felt like all those

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Speaker 3: things kind of perfectly came together, which is, of course

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Speaker 3: the way you want it to be for that kind

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Speaker 3: of a record breaking touchdown for Mark. That's what's really

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Speaker 3: the feel that they have there and so it's just

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Speaker 3: this perfect pass on the mining, great feel, great touch,

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Speaker 3: great everything, great route, and that's exactly what you want

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Speaker 3: to see. But it did seem like there was a

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Speaker 3: little bit of improv which is almost always the case

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Speaker 3: when Lamar and Mark get together.

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Speaker 1: The funny thing is they could have had a second

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Speaker 1: to Justice Hill that Lamar hit him wide open in

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Speaker 1: the flats and he practically waltzed in right as Lamar

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Speaker 1: you know, the guy just became the all time leader

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Speaker 2: Let's get Justice one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Justice had to walk in touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Right, so you can't fall that all pretty good, pretty

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Speaker 2: good options. Mark always likes to score, you know. But

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Speaker 2: but he got in the end zone and he gave

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Speaker 2: Justice to handshake. Well, get a teammate.

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Speaker 3: So going back to the point about Lamar's accuracy, he

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Speaker 3: was over eighty percent accurate in this game. I mean

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Speaker 1: It's his fifth career game with at least five touchdown

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Speaker 3: It's remarkable, and he's on pace. Last year, in the

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Speaker 3: first year under Monken, he made big strides pretty much

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Speaker 3: across the board in the passing categories, and now he's

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Speaker 3: even gone to another level really across the board in

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Speaker 3: yards for the first time of his career. And I

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Speaker 3: think that it's easy to overlook because we're just used

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Speaker 3: remarkable things. And I joke about a Jackson five and

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Speaker 3: it's like, oh, another Jackson five. That's five touchdowns in

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Speaker 1: Ronnie Stanley about it after the game. He was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty normal. I'm used to seeing Lamar put up

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Speaker 1: big stats, like I know, and so when do you

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Speaker 3: After five touches up bas and you kind of become

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Speaker 3: numb to it. But like these numbers that Lamar has

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Speaker 3: this year are are truly remarkable. He's got thirty five

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Speaker 3: hundred passing yards, thirty four touchdowns, three interceptions. His quarterback rating,

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Speaker 3: which is the best in the league, is one twenty

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Speaker 2: And that's at.

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Speaker 1: Least two of those interceptions went off his receiver's hands

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and he only had three of them. Thirty four touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: three interceptions. And like when we talked about Lamar when

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Speaker 3: Lamar won his first MVP, part of the the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Oh and by the way, all the rushing yards, by

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Speaker 1: he's got seven.

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Speaker 3: Hundred and forty three rushing yards. He joined Michael Vick

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Speaker 3: record in his sights. That could happen at any point, I.

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Speaker 2: Think that's following this year. He's one hundred and nine

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Speaker 3: From breaking that could that could happen this game. You

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Speaker 3: certainly could taken down. So three touchdowns. So Lamar's season,

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Speaker 3: like when he won his first MVP in twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 3: the efficiency and the uniqueness of the way in which

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Speaker 3: he played was off the charts. Now it's just everything

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Speaker 3: is off the charts. It's the passing game, it's the touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: it's the efficiency, it's the running, it hack yards, everything

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Speaker 3: about it. There's like no weakness to his game. And

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Speaker 3: I think it's maybe Ronnie Stanley's used to it, and

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Speaker 3: I think it's easy to kind of get just accustomed

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Speaker 3: to those numbers. But I don't think that we should,

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Speaker 3: because what he's doing is truly remarkable, well point blank.

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Speaker 1: I think that when Lamar came into this league, and

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Speaker 1: even in twenty nineteen, when everybody saw him do what

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Speaker 1: he did, you know, everybody's like, Wow, this guy is

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Speaker 1: the most dynamic quarterback in the league and he's going

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Speaker 1: to become the best rushing quarterback in the league in

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Speaker 2: That's where he's at, folks.

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Speaker 1: And let's just I mean, sure, yeah, the Giants were

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Speaker 3: be a huge piece of this defense. Another interesting note

439
00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:53,199
Speaker 3: from this game defense wise, is that the Ravens made

440
00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:55,480
Speaker 3: a change and we've seen this kind of start, but

441
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,439
Speaker 3: it was accelerated a little bit in this game at

442
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:02,080
Speaker 3: inside linebacker and they really w with Malik Harrison and

443
00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,960
Speaker 3: Chris Board next to Roquan Smith instead of Trenton Simpson

444
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,960
Speaker 3: and Trenton ended up playing later in the game, but

445
00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 3: more in.

446
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:13,720
Speaker 2: The fourth quarter. Some coverede snaps. I think it was

447
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:14,399
Speaker 2: seven covers.

448
00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, But like he was a guy coming into the

449
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,720
Speaker 3: year who was playing almost all the snaps at the

450
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,200
Speaker 3: very at the outset, and so he's been replaced right

451
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,639
Speaker 3: now for the time being. John Harriwall talked about that

452
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 3: and he said it's kind of a reset for him,

453
00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:29,080
Speaker 3: is to take a chance to take a deep breath.

454
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:31,879
Speaker 3: Trenton is men. That guy plays hard, he wants it,

455
00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 3: he works hard, so he does all those things right.

456
00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,880
Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's just been a learning

457
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:37,640
Speaker 3: curve for him. He's a young player that steps into

458
00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,240
Speaker 3: the lineup and you think that it's going to be

459
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,040
Speaker 3: easy because Okay, you're playing next to Roquan and just

460
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:44,880
Speaker 3: go fly around and make tackles. Well, there's a lot

461
00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,159
Speaker 3: going on there in the middle of the field.

462
00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 2: It moves fast.

463
00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,880
Speaker 3: It moves fast. It's a tough assignment.

464
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's tough for any rookie inside linebacker. Well,

465
00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 1: he's not a rookie, but essentially he is. I mean,

466
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 1: he barely played last year. He barely played last year.

467
00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,600
Speaker 1: So essentially he's a rookie and you know he's had

468
00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:02,880
Speaker 1: it from a film, but on the field, yeah, it's

469
00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:05,840
Speaker 1: his first time. And I mean we saw it with

470
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,119
Speaker 1: Patrick Queen, who was a first round pick. Yeah, we

471
00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 1: saw him have his struggles and there were times when

472
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:15,159
Speaker 1: he had his snaps decreased yep, dramatically even, And you know,

473
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,879
Speaker 1: I remember the stories around that time and it was like,

474
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:21,080
Speaker 1: all right, you know, let's let Josh Binds come in,

475
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,679
Speaker 1: a veteran who's seen it all, done it all is.

476
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 1: Can we know he's going to play at a solid level,

477
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, as he has athletic and and all that. No,

478
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 1: the ceiling is higher with this younger guy. But there's

479
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 1: something to be said for experience, especially at that position,

480
00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,160
Speaker 1: seeing it all and knowing what's going on in front

481
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,640
Speaker 1: of you, trusting your eyes, trusting your instincts, and that's

482
00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:43,760
Speaker 1: an important part of an inside linebaker's job. And I

483
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 1: think that Trenton it's you know, it's just it's a

484
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,320
Speaker 1: tough assignment. So I think that Trentonill is going to

485
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Speaker 1: be a good player in this league.

486
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Speaker 2: I really do. I Mean, he's got.

487
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 1: All the athleticism in the world that you want. He

488
00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 1: has the perfect attitude. That dude works hard, he cares,

489
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna he's going to put pour everything into it,

490
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 1: and he's going to get there. It's just right now

491
00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: the Ravens are at a spot where you know they

492
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: needed a little higher, better, a little more consistent play

493
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: there next to Roquan Smith.

494
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Speaker 3: I don't know exactly what all was going on. It's

495
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 3: you can try to put your healself in the head

496
00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,920
Speaker 3: of a player or whatever, and that's and that's difficult.

497
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 3: But I know at times it felt like, going back

498
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 3: to the Patrick Queen example, that there were times early

499
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 3: in his career where it felt like he was thinking

500
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: a little too much out there just not playing, and

501
00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 3: then once the light kind of came off for him

502
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 3: and he just felt like he was playing and reacting.

503
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: It really seemed like his game went to another level.

504
00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: I think it's somewhat similar to Trenton. And of course,

505
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,600
Speaker 3: when you're a young player and you're out there thinking

506
00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 3: about all that's happening in front of you, and you're

507
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 3: trying to diagnose and you're trying to make sure that

508
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 3: you're in the right spot, there's just a lot that's

509
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,400
Speaker 3: happening and a lot to process. And he's so athletic

510
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 3: and so gifted, and but it's there's a lot of

511
00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:52,240
Speaker 3: things that are that are playing out in front of

512
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: you that you need to consider. And so I think

513
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,440
Speaker 3: that that could be part of what's happening there.

514
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,960
Speaker 1: And how much does that put more on roque Smith's plate?

515
00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:00,800
Speaker 2: Right? Does he feel like he has to kind of

516
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: make up for some of that?

517
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,199
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that we've seen since the

518
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,160
Speaker 1: Ravens have made these changes to give him Aleak and

519
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: and Chris Board more time, I think we've seen Roquan

520
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,080
Speaker 1: also play better.

521
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 2: You know, he was the Ravens highest.

522
00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 1: Graded defender from Pro Football Focus in this game against

523
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 1: the Giants, And so I think it's two part kind

524
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: of solution there.

525
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 3: Well, the other part, too is if you go back

526
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,919
Speaker 3: a couple of games, ro Quwand Smith hurt his hamstring

527
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 3: against the Steelers the first time they played, left that game,

528
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 3: and then against the Chargers, Malie Harrison steps into the

529
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Speaker 3: lineup and Malik Harrison played great. He had an awesome

530
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 3: game against them, love the team and tackles, And I

531
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 3: don't know if basically that performance earned him more snaps

532
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,720
Speaker 3: in the coach's eyes. I'm sure that probably helped, didn't hurt.

533
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was like, you play well, you get more opportunities.

534
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,399
Speaker 1: Sean Harball has been pretty clear about that over his tenure.

535
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:48,320
Speaker 3: And so it's sort of like, oh, you know what,

536
00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: maybe maybe you should give hm Alik a little bit

537
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: more run here because he's playing really well. And here's

538
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:53,560
Speaker 3: a veteran player. He knows where to be and he's

539
00:23:53,920 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 3: physical of course, but like and so like he's played

540
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,159
Speaker 3: well too. Yeah, like in a strange way that like

541
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 3: that that one game absence from Roquand gave Malik and

542
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 3: Chris Board more of an opportunity. They seized it, and

543
00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,680
Speaker 3: now it's helping the defense overall.

544
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:13,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, gave the Ravens some more insight. Yeah, into that

545
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 1: whole situation. The meritocracy yearn what you get and the

546
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,439
Speaker 1: leek Harrison and Chris Board earned it.

547
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: Yep.

548
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 3: And then the last point that I have from this

549
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: game is Roger Rosegarten just continues to I.

550
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 2: Should have said you get what you earn, right, not

551
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 2: you earn what you get right? Yeah? Or does it

552
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 2: work both ways? Out at whatever? Pushed another saying you've

553
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:33,840
Speaker 2: never for the course.

554
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:37,760
Speaker 3: You've never hit one of those sayings you scroll them up,

555
00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 3: So that's just part of how it goes. But the

556
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: last one I have on going to the offensive side

557
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,160
Speaker 3: of the ball sticking with a rookie that we talked

558
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 3: about is Roger Rosegarten just continues to play. Well. Really,

559
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 3: this freaking class overall had a good game. I mean,

560
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: you have Javontes Walker first catch, touchdown, and Rashina Lee

561
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 3: gets his first carry, finishes eight carries, thirty.

562
00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,840
Speaker 1: Six yards four pop. Yeah, I thought he.

563
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 3: He looked pretty good. And so you see these this

564
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 3: rookie class getting more and more action, which is which

565
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,399
Speaker 3: was encouraging. I don't think that Tez and rashin a

566
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 3: Lee are going to be key pieces of the game

567
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 3: plan here down the stretch, but it's good to get

568
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 3: them action, right.

569
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: That was kind of the I thought a bit of

570
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,120
Speaker 1: a false narrative coming out of this game, was like, oh,

571
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, you're gonna need these guys down the stretch,

572
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 1: and so it's good to get them some action. Like

573
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: I don't really you know, they're not going to be

574
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 1: playing key roles here down the stretch and in the playoffs.

575
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: The Ravens have the wide receivers they need, They have

576
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,159
Speaker 1: plenty of targets. They have the running backs, you know,

577
00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:32,880
Speaker 1: just Sill and Derek Henry going to lead the way.

578
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: But I think that it's just good to get those

579
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 1: guys snaps for their careers. Yeah moving forward, like those

580
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: are just valuable game reps and sure, yes, if pressed

581
00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 1: into action down the stretch, it's great to get get

582
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: them some snaps. I think that was kind of the

583
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: hope going into this Giants game was, you know, do

584
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: you build a big enough.

585
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,399
Speaker 2: Lead where you can get some of these reserves some snaps.

586
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 3: It was good.

587
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 1: Now want to rest and rest some of your starters,

588
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: give them a little time off with three games in

589
00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: eleven days.

590
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good on multiple fronts. So well, the young

591
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,280
Speaker 3: guy who is going to be really important and it

592
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 3: is going to be a huge piece of the game

593
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 3: plan is Roger Rosegarten going back to him as he's

594
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,439
Speaker 3: starting right tackle. He just just played well this year.

595
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 3: He stepped into that starting job and he's doing it

596
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 3: at a high level. I know you tracked down the

597
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 3: stat and looking at Pro Football Focus of all the

598
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 3: tackles drafted in the first two rounds and there were

599
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: twelve of them. Rose Garten went at the end of

600
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: the second round. He's got the second best grade according

601
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 3: to Pro Football Focus, of any of those guys. The

602
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 3: only one ahead of him is Joe Alt from the Chargers,

603
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 3: who was a fifth overall pick. Yeah, so that's saying

604
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: something about Rosegarten right there.

605
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's playing at a really high level.

606
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: And it's been the past four games, specifically in pass protection.

607
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: And that started with the Steelers and TJ. Watt, which

608
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 1: was the marquee assignment for him, obviously, and he played

609
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: well in that game.

610
00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 2: TJ.

611
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: Watt, despite the Steelers win, did not wreck that game

612
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: at all. And you know, Roger, if TJ. Watt plays

613
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: now he's dealing with an ankle injury, it remains to

614
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: be seen. Coach Mike Tomlins said that he's up a

615
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: mystic that TJ.

616
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: Watte will play.

617
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 1: We've gosh, we've seen this movie a thousand times, right, Oh, TJ. Watt. Look,

618
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: if I'm a bet man, I'm betting TJ. Watt's gonna

619
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 1: be out on that field. But for Roger that's when

620
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:17,240
Speaker 1: it started. And really the past four weeks he's given

621
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,199
Speaker 1: up two pressures over those four games. According to Pro

622
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:25,160
Speaker 1: Football Focus, that's pretty darn good. And now we've also

623
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: seen the past three games he's been blocking run blocking

624
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: at a higher level, and so yeah, look, the it

625
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 1: says something that for a rookie right tackle, you go

626
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 1: into the game, you're like, yeah, I know what I'm

627
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna get from Roger, Like I feel totally comfortable there,

628
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:41,760
Speaker 1: you know what I mean?

629
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: Like that says something alone.

630
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, if you go back to the draft and

631
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 3: there was how much signed did we spend talking about

632
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 3: first round tackle targets for the Raves and they ended

633
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 3: up going with Nate Wagan, So we just talked about

634
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 3: very happy with him. And then you get the tackle

635
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 3: in the second round and you might have got you

636
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 3: might have got just as good of a player at

637
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 3: the end of the second round and you could have

638
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: gotten in the first round.

639
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: Looking like a big win, it's looking like a big

640
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: win for Eric to coost Like.

641
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,120
Speaker 3: It's good from a value standpoint, and it's good from

642
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 3: the team needed him to step in their standpoint, and

643
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 3: that's really really important.

644
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: Just looking at the film. I mean, Roger we've known

645
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: for a while, is a very athletic I really like

646
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: how he mixes up his pass sets. Sometimes he'll do

647
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 1: his whole like jump on him quickly, you know, come

648
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,399
Speaker 1: out almost as if he's run blocking, and then close

649
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 1: that gap really fast, and you see his ability to

650
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: mirror very well. I just he looks very comfortable out

651
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 1: there to me right now, when you watch him on film,

652
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 1: he just knows what he's doing.

653
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally. Now, the last point I want to hit

654
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 3: is special teams. It was much better in this game.

655
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 3: And the Ravens Special teams unit has got too many

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Speaker 3: penalties this year and not played up to the level

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Speaker 3: consistently that we're used to seeing from the special teams

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Speaker 3: here in Baltimore. But they look good turn game coverage,

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Speaker 3: game kicking, game, everything looked good across the board, and

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Speaker 3: that was a that was a really good sign for

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Speaker 3: the special team sheet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree. I think that.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've talked to Chris Horton about this and

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Speaker 1: he said, part of it is that we have young players,

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Speaker 1: a lot of young players playing in different spots on

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Speaker 1: special teams. Obviously, every team was adjusting to the new

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Speaker 1: kickoff dynamic kickoff rules, and also the Ravens signed Deontay

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Speaker 1: Hardy to be their return and he's barely played this year,

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Speaker 1: so that loss, you know, that hurt a little bit.

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Speaker 1: And so but I think that the Ravens hopefully this

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Speaker 1: Giants game, it was a turn in the corner kind

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Speaker 1: of moment for them. They had their longest kickoff return

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Speaker 1: and longest punt returns of the season. I thought that

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Speaker 1: kickoff wise, Justice Hilberg a fifty nine yarder on the

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Speaker 1: first play of the game, and really good blocking from

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Speaker 1: Rashine Ali. He was kind of the lead block guiding

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Speaker 1: him through that gap. Good block from Tyler Willace on

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Speaker 1: that and Chris Board also to kind of pave the way.

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Speaker 1: And then Justice is just awesome. I just I'll take

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Speaker 1: the ball in Justice's hand almost every time. He's just

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Speaker 1: a good player, and he hit it hard. And then

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Speaker 1: I thought Desmond King. You know, obviously Tyler Wallace had

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Speaker 1: a little bit of struggles in that Eagles game. Put

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Speaker 1: two balls on the ground, per cover both, but not

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Speaker 1: what you want to see, you know, wasn't fielding balls

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Speaker 1: that he should have come up and caught. And so

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Speaker 1: the Ravens made the switch to Desmond King. He's a

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Speaker 1: veteran returner, done it a lot over his career, and

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Speaker 1: you saw it in this game, just the confidence that

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Speaker 1: he has catching the ball because on his on his

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Speaker 1: strong punt return, I think it was a twenty one yarder.

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Speaker 1: He came up and that was a short punt that

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Speaker 1: and that thing was blowing around. I mean that thing

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Speaker 1: was a curveball and he came up, caught it on

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Speaker 1: the run, still made a few tacklers miss and got

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Speaker 1: up field for a very nice game. So I thought

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Speaker 1: that you just see the difference there. Here's a guy

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Speaker 1: who's done it a lot, whereas Tyler Wallace is a

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Speaker 1: much younger player in his return career.

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Speaker 3: Well, John Harbloo does say that the plan moving forward,

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Speaker 3: at least for this game, is going to be that

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Speaker 3: Desmond King will remain as a punt returner. He's currently

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Speaker 3: on the practice score, so the Ravens could continue to

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Speaker 3: elevate him as a game day elevation or at some

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Speaker 3: point they can move him to the fifty three men roster,

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Speaker 3: but he's going to be the pump returner for this

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Speaker 3: game against the Steelers, and he again he did look

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Speaker 3: good doing it. Another interesting note was that they did

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Speaker 3: get some reps for Jordan Stout on kickoff, and of

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Speaker 3: course Justin Tucker's been kicking off here forever, and so

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Speaker 3: they gave Stout some reps there in the second half.

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Speaker 3: He can just boom it out of the back of

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Speaker 3: the end zone. He did that in college. He was

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Speaker 3: a kickoff and he did both punts and kicks in college.

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Speaker 2: He did it all.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he did it all. So he's familiar with that.

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Speaker 3: But that is another option. He's got a big leg,

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Speaker 3: and so obviously Justin's had challenges this year in the

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Speaker 3: field goal kicking game, but brings Stout into the mix,

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Speaker 3: there is another option for you know, if they want

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Speaker 3: to just have somebody that can boom it out of

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Speaker 3: the back at the end zone.

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Speaker 2: I think there's no harm.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you save one kick on Justin Tucker's

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Speaker 1: leg and yeah, and you know, if you're basically just

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Speaker 1: like we want to touch back here. Justin Tucker's great

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Speaker 1: at at pinpoint offs. He can place the ball really well,

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Speaker 1: I think, probably better than Jordan Stout can. But if

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Speaker 1: your only intention is let's just boom it out of

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Speaker 1: the back of the end zone, why not just let

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Speaker 1: Jordan Stout pound away at it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And he again he didn't call it, but he

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Speaker 3: hasn't done in the pros yet, so this is just

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Speaker 3: to get him some game action to see how he

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Speaker 3: does there. Yep, totally so again, Raven's welcome to Steelers

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Speaker 3: of Town. This week, we are going to have a

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Speaker 3: player interview between now and then, so stay tuned for

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Speaker 3: that over the course of the next couple of days.

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Speaker 3: As always, you can email us at the lounge at

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Speaker 3: Ravens dot NFL dot net. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 3: listening and we will be back with you again soon