1 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg daybak you up for this Wednesday, the 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: twenty first of June in London. 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 2: Coming up today. 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: Feeling the heat, pressure grows on the Bank of England 5 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 3: ahead of today's inflation print. 6 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 2: Reinflating tensions. 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: Biden likens she to a dictator, kept in the dark 8 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: about the alleged Chinese spy balloon. 9 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 3: Lacking oversight. The head of the New York Fed says 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 3: company directors need to take responsibility. 11 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 4: Britain's mortgage bomb and two stigma. Those of the stories 12 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 4: we're looking at in today's papers. I'm James Walcock. 13 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:33,480 Speaker 2: Plus. 14 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: With less than thirty hours of air remaining, noises have 15 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 1: been detected in the search for the missing Titanic sub 16 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: We have the latest. 17 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 5: That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. The business 18 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 5: news you need to start your day in just one 19 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 5: fifteen minute podcast on Apple, Spotify, the Bloomberg Business App 20 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 5: and everywhere you get your podcasts. 21 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 3: Good morning. I'm Stephen Carroll and. 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: I'm Caroline Hetger. Here are the stories that we're following today. 23 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 3: Britain is bracing for key economic data today, with inflation 24 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: numbers for the month of May due to be published 25 00:01:10,959 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's UW and Parks has more. 26 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 6: Last month's UK inflation reading shocked the forecasters, coming in 27 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:19,559 Speaker 6: a whole half a percent higher than expected, so data 28 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 6: today will be closely watched by investors, the government and 29 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 6: the Bank of England. It's expected to show a moderation 30 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 6: in price pressures with inflation in the year to make 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,560 Speaker 6: forecaster come in at eight point four percent, but that's 32 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 6: not expected to be enough to stop the BOE from 33 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 6: hiking rates again. We'll get that decision at midday tomorrow 34 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 6: in London. I'm you in parts Bloomberg day Break. 35 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: Europe, the head of the Bank of France says that 36 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: the European Central Bank has completed most of its interest 37 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 1: rate increases. In an interview for the French newspaper Lizzik Cool, 38 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: Francois Vilwu de Gallo said, quote, our rates are now 39 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 1: tending towards their asimp tote, and any additional increases will 40 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: depend on the inflation data. The policymakers common add caution 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: to a heated debate at the ECB over the outlook 42 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:06,400 Speaker 1: for interest rates ahead of their next meeting in July. 43 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 3: US President Joe Biden says as Chinese counterbart Xijingping, was 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 3: unaware that the alleged spy balloon had floated over the 45 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: continental United States until it became an international incident. Speaking 46 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 3: to donors, Biden compared the Chinese leader to an embarrassed 47 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 3: dictator kept in the dark. The comments come after the 48 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: US Secretary of State Anthony Blincoln used a visit to 49 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 3: Beijing to try and ease the fractured diplomatic relationship. 50 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:35,239 Speaker 7: The relationship and the communication between of the two leaders 51 00:02:35,240 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 7: between President Biden president Chi is most important of all. 52 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,119 Speaker 7: That's why they've had a number of communications and meetings 53 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 7: to date, and that's why I expect you'll see more 54 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 7: of that. 55 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,799 Speaker 3: Lincoln met on Monday with Chijingping, who said he welcomed 56 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: the steadying of bilateral ties. 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: Well, saying with the growing divisions between China and the West, 58 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,679 Speaker 1: the EU has set out plans to align itself more 59 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: closely with USB policy. The bloc's new economic security strategy 60 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: includes export controls and increasing oversight of critical technologies. The 61 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: European Commission president as the Fondlione, says that it is 62 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 1: a bold plan. 63 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 8: Europe becomes the first major economy to set out a 64 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 8: strategy on economic security. It builds on three policy strand 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 8: we want to promote, we want to protect, and we 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 8: want to partner. 67 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: Fonderlon says that the EU is looking at a limit 68 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 1: access to some cutting edge technologies to avoid it being 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: used by quote countries of concern. The proposal will now 70 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: need to be approved by EU member countries. 71 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 3: The president of the New York Fed says boards of 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: directors needs to ensure management are doing their jobs. Speaking 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 3: at a panel on Governments and Culture Reform conference, John 74 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 3: Williams said, it's an issue that needs to be looked 75 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 3: at more closely. 76 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 9: You need to be forward looking, need to think outside 77 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 9: the box, if you will, if you're claiming a strategy. 78 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 9: I also think the boards. You know, the board of 79 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 9: directors plays a very important role of all this. We 80 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 9: tend not to talk about them as much as I 81 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 9: think we should. They do have an important role to 82 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 9: make sure that senior management is actually not only doing 83 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 9: their job every day, but also doing that kind of 84 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 9: thinking and bringing that you know into the room. 85 00:04:18,200 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 3: John Williams also tell the audience that he believes the 86 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: companies need to be more transparent regarding board of directors' roles. 87 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 3: His comments come after a string of US bank failures 88 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 3: raised questions about the leadership at some lenders. 89 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Finally, underwater noises have been detected in the search for 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: the sub that was headed to the wreck of the Titanic. 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: The US Coast Guard says that a Canadian plane with 92 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: sonar capabilities detected sounds and attempts are being made to 93 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 1: explore their origin. Speaking earlier, US Coastguard Captain Jamie Frederick 94 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: said that efforts to locate the vessel face a number 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 1: of challenges. 96 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 10: This is a very complex search and the unified teams 97 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,479 Speaker 10: working around the clock to bring all available assets and 98 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 10: expertise used to bear as quickly as possible in an 99 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 10: effort to solve this very complex problem. To day, those 100 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 10: search efforts have not yielded any results. 101 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 1: The US Coast Guard says that the diving vessel has 102 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: five people on board and is estimated to have less 103 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:17,359 Speaker 1: than thirty hours of oxygen remaining. The five crew members 104 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:22,239 Speaker 1: include the UK billionaire chairman of Action Aviation, hey Mish Harding. 105 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,719 Speaker 3: So as our top stories on the program this morning, 106 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,200 Speaker 3: other news that caught my eye this morning about an 107 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 3: iconic brand going under hunter as wellies. 108 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Hunter Wellington Boots of course absolutely quintessentially British, 109 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: but supply chain problems breaks it, inflation and warm Weather 110 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: has apparently done for this brand. It's gone into administration. 111 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:50,719 Speaker 1: Alex Partner says that the company faces significant challenges and 112 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: has done since twenty nineteen. So it's a business that 113 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: dates back to eighteen fifty seven and as I say, 114 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: it's absolutely iconic in the UK. 115 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: So I was quite surprised the brand may revive be 116 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: refined after it though, because as part of the restructuring process, 117 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 3: the IP has been sold to Authentic Brands Group recently 118 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: bought Ted Baker Chance that perhaps we may, but it's. 119 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: A lot of those UK high street names that have 120 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: run into a great deal of difficulty in recent years. 121 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: Another one of those. 122 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: And also on a lighter note, I feel we've got 123 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,359 Speaker 1: a lot of serious news today. I wanted to point 124 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: to well an icon in London, which of course is 125 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 1: the National Portrait Gallery. There is a beautiful piece on 126 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: the terminal today that's been written by our colleague James 127 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: Tarmy has lovely photographs about this more than forty million 128 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: pound construction project that's lasted three years, that has seen 129 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: the National Portrait Gallery largely closed that is reopening in 130 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: kind of technicolor glory. The galleries look amazing, so have 131 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: a look at the pictures on the time. 132 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 3: It's also going to be a big change to that 133 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: part of London because I feel like the hoarding has 134 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 3: been up for so long outside the Portrait Gallery that 135 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 3: that's all we're used to seeing around. 136 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 1: And the entrance is actually going to be in a 137 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: different spot for anybody who actually goes to the gallery, 138 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to go around the other side of 139 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: the building. But it is it does look really wonderful. 140 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: Apparently there's going to be a lot more photography or 141 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: so on display. Anyway, icons of British culture and clothing 142 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: that for you beautifully. 143 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: Okay, well let's turn to a different icon now. FED 144 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 3: Chairman Jerome Powell gives his semi annual monetary policy reports 145 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: the House Financial Services Committee. Later on joining us now 146 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 3: to help us preview that at is Boomberg's market support 147 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: of Valerie title good morning to you, Valerie. So market 148 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 3: seemed to be expecting hawkish testimony from Powell today. 149 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:34,800 Speaker 11: Yeah, so, essentially because the take from the press conference 150 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 11: and the rate decision last week was that he was 151 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:40,920 Speaker 11: moderately dubvish in his language in the press conference, but 152 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 11: again rose those dots to show two more hikes to go. 153 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 11: He might try to finesse that message a bit more, 154 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 11: maybe try to sound a bit more hawkish, because in 155 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 11: some way the market remains a bit unconvinced that the 156 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 11: FED will hike twice more, as indicated in that dot plot, 157 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 11: so he might push back against such views. The other 158 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 11: thing he's gonna get asked, probably multiple times, is to 159 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 11: explain why he paused in June but still planning on 160 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 11: hiking later in the year. He was asked this question 161 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 11: many times in the press conference after the rate decision 162 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 11: as well, but I expect lawmakers to ask him this repeatedly. 163 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 11: He'll probably stress words like the FED needs flexibility as 164 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 11: we near peak rates, and that pace isn't as important 165 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 11: to him anymore. It's raising rates to the right level 166 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 11: and he needs time to do that in the best manner. 167 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: Okay, So that on join power. There's also been though, 168 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: some quite interesting data housing styles in the US, in 169 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: particular a huge beat massive home building. 170 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:45,439 Speaker 2: What's going on? 171 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 11: Massive beat? Just almost three standard deviations of a beat 172 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 11: on housing starts in yesterday's data. Now this means that 173 00:08:55,480 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 11: housing could probably contribute positively to GDP in the second 174 00:09:00,400 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 11: quarter for the US. But the big thing here is 175 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 11: that if we take a step back and look at 176 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 11: why why the Bank of Canada did that surprise hike, 177 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 11: why the RBA did that surprise hike, both of those 178 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 11: countries had the reason that housing rebounded strongly. So perhaps 179 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 11: this is the first hint that housing is due for 180 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 11: a big rebound, and does that complicate the Fed's playbook 181 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 11: if growth does keep surprising on the upside? It was 182 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 11: just one data point. I want to stress we get 183 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 11: more housing data later in the year, with it later 184 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 11: in the week with existing home sales, but this was 185 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 11: such a big beat we have to start wondering what's 186 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 11: going on in the US housing market now. 187 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, certainly a very interesting one to be watching. I'm 188 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,079 Speaker 3: wondering as well. We've also seen some movements in the 189 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,559 Speaker 3: Chinese y Wan this morning. What's driving this? 190 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 11: Again, just a lack of words from the PBOC from 191 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 11: China in any further stimulus. But it's breaked, It's broke 192 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 11: through a key level versus the US dollar, that's seven 193 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 11: point two. Remember it was a big deal when it 194 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 11: broke seven just a month ago, and the PBOC really 195 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 11: hasn't done a lot with its overnight fixings to try 196 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 11: to stem the weakness of the yuan. And this is 197 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 11: now another key level that it's broken seven point two, 198 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 11: which raises the bar now more speculation that the PBOC 199 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 11: is going to let it weaken further. 200 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, just a last thought. 201 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: Also, it's not happening in the US, but for other countries, 202 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: rate cut bets are mounting in developed markets like Australia, 203 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: like you know, New Zealand, Norway, also Sweden, and you've 204 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: been looking at Sweden today. 205 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 11: Well, so I think the nature of the other markets 206 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 11: pricing and rate cuts is just because we've had this 207 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 11: big hawkish wave. We've had more rate hikes priced in immediately, 208 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 11: and we know that the farther we go into restrictive territory, 209 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 11: the more the market's going to assume that you have 210 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 11: to cut quickly because something is going to break or 211 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 11: there's going to be a real hit to growth. So 212 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 11: that's just a nature I think of this big hawkish 213 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:01,719 Speaker 11: wave that we've had in the last two weeks from 214 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 11: Central Banks and then Sweden that's a very interesting one. 215 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 11: Their currency dropped to a record low versus the Euro yesterday. 216 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 11: And this is all down to the fact that when 217 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 11: markets look at Sweden, they think that they're not going 218 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 11: to be able to keep up with that hawkish wave 219 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 11: because they have already started to see very big problems 220 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 11: in their housing market. I learned this yesterday. Some of 221 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 11: their mortgages in Sweden are only fixed for six months. 222 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 11: Well yeah, so you think the UK is quite sensitive. 223 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 11: You know, Sweden's got a different problem. So there's limited 224 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 11: headroom for the ricks bank to keep hiking rates to 225 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 11: keep up with everybody else, and it's leading to a 226 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 11: depreciation of their currency. 227 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 3: Okay, Valeria, our market supporter. Even imagine spring in the 228 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 3: world's eldest central bank. Thank you very much for that. 229 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 3: Up next Britain's mortgage bomb and two Stigma. 230 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 5: Now the paper review on blue Bird Daybreak Europe. The 231 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,479 Speaker 5: news you need to know from today's papers. 232 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: Bluebog same so Coach Jones is now for Hey, look 233 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: what is in the newspapers this morning? Starting with a 234 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, they have a long bread on a 235 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: feud in hedge funds. 236 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 4: Well, Collen and Stephen, what is the worst argument the 237 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 4: two of you have ever had. 238 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,320 Speaker 2: We are too young in our friendship to have ever fought. 239 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: There you go until now tell us about the hedge 240 00:12:17,920 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: funds well sued, then. 241 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 4: So it's a sixty billion dollar feud in terms of 242 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 4: two Sigma are a very well established hedge fund. They've 243 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: been going for twenty two years. And between the two founders, 244 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: John Overdek and David Siegel that it's written into the 245 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:37,040 Speaker 4: firm's founding text that they have to agree on most 246 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 4: decisions a coin of people familiar. Now where this becomes 247 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: really problematic is in the company's latest filings it is 248 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 4: listed as a material risk that they can't agree anymore 249 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 4: and the relationship has deteriorated to the point where it 250 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,680 Speaker 4: has been disclosed in the firing. And that is also 251 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:57,000 Speaker 4: saying they are having difficulty of taking key decisions at 252 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 4: disclosure that lawyers and investors says virtually impressed, entered that 253 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,839 Speaker 4: it has had to get to that kind of state. 254 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: Well, although having said that, it's one of the big 255 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: causes of small business failures is the fact that you know, 256 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 1: the founders and the partners sort of yeah, then disagree 257 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: at some point, but no, this is big bucks. 258 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 4: Though, yeah, this is a lot, a lot of money. 259 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: I mean, two Sigma specializes in the kind of it's 260 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: like nerds nerds company. Yeah, they bring in the PhDs, 261 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 4: they digest kind of torrents information and then write sort 262 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 4: of big trading algorithms based on that. But to give 263 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 4: you an ideas that these very smart men and the 264 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 4: way that how trivial this has gotten to. In a 265 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 4: two twenty fifteen profile of two Sigma, fours described Overdeck 266 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 4: as the master chef of two Sigma and Siegel as 267 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 4: the firm's manager. Soon after, Overdeck brought a chef's hat 268 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: into a meeting with Siegel, accorinted people familiar. So it's 269 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 4: this level, it's reached this level now, I mean Bloomberg's 270 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 4: Mat Lavine I always go to for a smart take 271 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 4: on this stuff, and he says, what is fascinating here 272 00:13:49,559 --> 00:13:51,199 Speaker 4: is that there has been no material impact on the 273 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 4: firm's bottom line from this disclosure. So his view, which 274 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 4: I quite enjoy, is that maybe it has allowed the 275 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 4: computers to make the investment decisions, which frees up the 276 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 4: employee to engage in a lot of bizarre into personal drama, 277 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 4: which in turn means the computer left alone to make 278 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 4: all the smart choices. 279 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: Okay, right, let's turn into something different now. Then, we've 280 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 3: been covering here in Bloomberg for a long time, the 281 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 3: finantal Times reporting on Treasury insiders talking about a mortgage barm. 282 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: Yes, I mean, we've been talking about the big issues 283 00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 4: in terms of CPI is pushing up interest rates, and 284 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: interest rates in turn are causing massive problems for the 285 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 4: mortgage markets and the ft. I'm saying the chancefer is 286 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 4: planned to call in big lenders on Friday to assess 287 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 4: the state of the mortgage market and see what additional 288 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 4: help they can give people. Now, I hesitate to be 289 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 4: labeled Gloomberg and talk about all the bad news that 290 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 4: is coming. But this is a feature, not a bug. 291 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 4: When you raise interest rates this high, this is going 292 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 4: to cause distress, and for an extent that is kind 293 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 4: of the point there. This is part of the problem, 294 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: and so any tax break or support will be both 295 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 4: by its nature inflationary and a strain on the public service, 296 00:14:57,560 --> 00:14:59,400 Speaker 4: which is why Joe Hadners also ruled them out. He 297 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 4: did so just yeah in the ft, so, I mean 298 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 4: one executive quote in the ft of a bank said 299 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 4: it's nothing more than the chance of playing to the crowd. 300 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 4: It will just allow them to show to show the 301 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 4: public that he's doing something. Yeah. 302 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: Look, absolutely the bill for a decade long of borrowing. 303 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:17,920 Speaker 1: The binge in borrowing that you know, we've all taken 304 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: advantage of businesses and households is coming due. I think 305 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: the most fascinating bit is this idea though that the 306 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: penny is dropping, that five or six percent above six 307 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: percent mortgage rates is just as painful as thirteen percent 308 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: mortgage rates were back in the late nineteen eighties. Why 309 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: because households are borrowed so much more so the pain 310 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: on your you know, take the take home paid disposal 311 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: income that you have is enormous. 312 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: And that has been longer. Sort of refrain of sort 313 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 4: of politicians on air saying, oh, it's not as bad 314 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 4: as the nineteen seventies, but that sort of leverage is 315 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 4: becoming a big issue, is what'th saying? On a positive note, 316 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 4: government did take action Back in December twenty twenty two, 317 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 4: Andrew Griffith, City of London Minister says lenders are being 318 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 4: encouraged offer mortgage to extensions, switch to industry and repayment holidays, 319 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 4: so the thing that they could have done they did 320 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 4: actually months ago and will take effect that banks are 321 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: trying to avoid defaults where possible. 322 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 3: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, your morning brief on the 323 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 3: stories making news from London to Wall Street and beyond. 324 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: Look for us on your podcast feed every morning, on Apple, Spotify, 325 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: and anywhere else you get your podcasts. 326 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 3: You can also listen live each morning on London Dab Radio, 327 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: the Bloomberg Business app, and Bloomberg dot Com. 328 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: Our flagship New York station is also available on your 329 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Amazon Alexa devices. 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