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Speaker 1: Hello Texans fans. Mark Vadimir with you along with John Harris.

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Speaker 1: And because it's Thursday night, you said your watch to it,

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Speaker 1: McClean from the Houston Chronicle, who's been on a lot

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Speaker 1: I heard you a little bit this afternoon. Sounds great,

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Speaker 1: the half at the most. But you tell me, is

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Speaker 1: this season better than you thought it was gonna be?

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Speaker 1: Record wise and performance wise about the same? I know

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Speaker 1: it's probably different because it's always a little different. You

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Speaker 1: never know how it's to play out. How would you

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Speaker 1: assess it? And I told her in the Chronicles football section,

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Speaker 1: and I went over each game. I had them four

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Speaker 1: and twelve going into the last game against Tennessee, and

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Speaker 1: I wrote, Tennessee will have home field advantage wrapped up,

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Speaker 1: Mike Vrabel will bench all his starters, and the Texans

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Speaker 1: will win. So I'm be off by one game. I

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Speaker 1: had no idea they'd beat two playoff teams or two

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Speaker 1: teams like the Chargers and the Titans. And they were

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Speaker 1: underdogs both times against the Jaguars six and five and

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Speaker 1: a half, and he beat them like crazy, And people go, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: that was Jacksonville, but they thought their roster was thought

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Speaker 1: so little of the oddsmakers made them a decisive underdog.

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Speaker 1: So I think they've had their moments. As far as

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Speaker 1: those games in the fourth quarter, talent probably took over

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Speaker 1: for the opponent because the Texans don't have the talent

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Speaker 1: as most other teams. And Nicko Sario is going to

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Speaker 1: be really busy with the draft and free agency and

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Speaker 1: try to narrow that gap. General, what do you have

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Speaker 1: going out of the Chronicle. I've got to call him

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Speaker 1: i road tomorrow about players that I believe should be resigned.

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Speaker 1: I've got one today that I think David Culley deserves

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Speaker 1: another year and why. And on Sunday, Brookscabino will have

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Speaker 1: a tremendous story on Brandon Cooks, the Texans best offensive

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Speaker 1: player this year. All right, John, thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: joining us, and we appreciate listening to you a lot

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Speaker 1: the last couple of days. Thank you guys very much.

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Speaker 1: You and you guys know how much I love talking

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Speaker 1: on the radio. Thank you, and I will see you Sunday.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, we love having you out. Thank you

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Speaker 1: to the General. John McClain from the Houston Chronicle. All right,

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Speaker 1: John Harris with you. Bonus Hour coming up at seven

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Speaker 1: o'clock as we'll do a little best of Audrey Johnson

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Speaker 1: there and also Glover Quinn and Andre Davis, who I

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Speaker 1: really miss I wish Audrey Davis lived in Houston, played

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and was a good return man for the team.

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Speaker 1: A couple of kickoff returns for a TV in the

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Speaker 1: season finale of O seven to enable the Texans to

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Speaker 1: go five hundreds. So we'll hear from them, all right,

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Speaker 1: John Harris, let's play who's better? Let's here we go.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start with the wat brothers here, two of them.

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Speaker 1: Not Derek, We're leaving him out of this. But who's

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Speaker 1: better JJ or whatever TJ has done and will do

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Speaker 1: from here? Who's better? Do it? An? It's like trying

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Speaker 1: to pick which family member do you love most. It's man,

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Speaker 1: it's I think I think JJ. I think it's JJ.

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Speaker 1: I mean, obviously biased watched him, but that dude was

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Speaker 1: a jungle cat in two hundred and ninety pounds. He

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Speaker 1: rushed him inside, he rushed him outside. I mean either

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Speaker 1: were times he was double triple team. He was three

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Speaker 1: time Defensive Player of the Year. He at twenty sacks.

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Speaker 1: How many times you get twenty sex three times? I

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Speaker 1: think he got the twenty sacks. I mean, look, TJ

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Speaker 1: got the twenty one and a half and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: continue his career is gonna get better. But we thought

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Speaker 1: that about JJ coming out of the twenty fifteen seasons,

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Speaker 1: like man, he's won three Defensive Players of the Year's

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Speaker 1: awards in five years. Man, what's coming? Then all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, his body started breaking down because

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Speaker 1: of the pounty he took for the first five years

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Speaker 1: when he was fully healthy after that twenty eighteen, but

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Speaker 1: he was exceptional twenty nineteen for the first half of

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Speaker 1: the year. The other people were on the league. But

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Speaker 1: I talked to her, like man, he's just as good

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Speaker 1: as he's ever been. So JJ stayed on a pretty

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Speaker 1: high trajectory. He just missed sixteen, he miss seventeen, he

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Speaker 1: miss half of nineteen, and that obviously took away from

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Speaker 1: the numbers. But to me on the field, I would

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Speaker 1: much rather have to handle TJ than to face and

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Speaker 1: try and limit JJ, if that makes sense. So I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go JJ over TJ. Al Right, So tj'spping up

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Speaker 1: season five and go with me on this. Is it

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Speaker 1: possible that JJ's playoff prowess is a real difference maker here?

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Speaker 1: And I say the answer is a resounding yes. Because

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Speaker 1: he had two and a half sacks his rookie year

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Speaker 1: in the postseason. That's after having I think only in

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Speaker 1: five or something in the entire regular season his rookie year.

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Speaker 1: He erupted in the postseason. He was dynamic and the

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Speaker 1: second year two made noise in the postseason. In twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: and check this out, the last time the Texans were

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, he makes the game changing pivotal play

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Speaker 1: sacking Josh Allen forcing a field goal try, enabling the

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Speaker 1: Texans to start their comeback down sixteen in the second half.

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Speaker 1: I think wat JJ Watt in the playoffs huge. And

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Speaker 1: here we are with TJ on the Steelers and they

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Speaker 1: can't get out of it. They can't get out of

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Speaker 1: jail here. They didn't make it well last year they

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Speaker 1: lost a wildcard round to the right, and this year

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Speaker 1: they need a lot of help to get in. Is

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Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen. They made it in twenty seventeen

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Speaker 1: as well. But still you get my drift, Yes I do.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, when JJ made that sack, who

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Speaker 1: did ESPN first show on the screen after the sack?

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Speaker 1: T J. Watt was up in the suite watching that game.

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Speaker 1: And he got some. He got plenty of TV time

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Speaker 1: in that game, that's for sure. I like how they

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Speaker 1: support each other. Okay, next question, who's better NFL head

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Speaker 1: coach Pete Carroll or Sean Peyton. I love this because

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Speaker 1: a lot of this is about brand name recognition. But

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Speaker 1: you tell me you want some numbers first before you answer. Yeah, Okay,

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Speaker 1: so wins wins? Sean Payton one fifty one and eighty nine.

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Speaker 1: He's got a sixty three percent. I'm gonna round up

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Speaker 1: winning percentage. Pete Carroll one fifty one one oh four

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Speaker 1: winning percentage fifty nine percent. I rounded down, all right.

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Speaker 1: Pay more recent losing seasons in fourteen, fifteen, and sixteen

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Speaker 1: all trips to the Greenbrier. He goes seven and nine

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Speaker 1: each of those campaigns. He's eight and eight heading into

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Speaker 1: the final weekend here. We all know that he did

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Speaker 1: really well the last four years with Drew Brees, but

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Speaker 1: still unable to get to where they really wanted to go.

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Speaker 1: They haven't been in the Super Bowl since O nine.

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Speaker 1: They were thirteen and three. He's put up more thirteen

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Speaker 1: and three type seasons than Pete Carroll, but Pete Carroll

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Speaker 1: has been in the Super Bowl more recently won it

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Speaker 1: more recently. That sort of thing go. I gotta win

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Speaker 1: a game agoing Sean Payton. And by the way, if

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Speaker 1: the Saints happened to win this weekend and the Rams

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Speaker 1: beat the forty nine ers, I believe the Saints get

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He won't win the Coach of the Year,

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Speaker 1: but Sean Payton should. He has nothing at the quarterback position,

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Speaker 1: absolute zips, zilch, nada at quarterback. Nothing. He had Alvin

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Speaker 1: Kamara out for I think it was probably three or

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Speaker 1: four games in the middle of the season. He had nothing.

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Speaker 1: And they are a Jimmy Garoppolo two interception game and

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Speaker 1: eking one out in Week eighteen from making the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: There is no way in hades the Saints should be

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Speaker 1: making the playoffs in twenty twenty one with all they've

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Speaker 1: been up against, and Sean Payton has nearly gotten them there.

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Speaker 1: The three seasons that I have a hard time like

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Speaker 1: rectifying in my head are those fourteen fifteen, sixteen years.

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Speaker 1: I don't I just that one. That one's hard. But

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Speaker 1: they were robbed of going to the Super Bowl in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, I mean completely and flat out robbed. YEA,

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Speaker 1: the Rams should have never got there. That should have

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Speaker 1: been a Saints Patriots super Bowl of Breeze versus Brady,

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Speaker 1: and we were we were robbed of that because the

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Speaker 1: lack of a call that that should have happened. And

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Speaker 1: then Saints run the clock out kid a field goal

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Speaker 1: and they go there's no I mean, Peyton should have

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Speaker 1: gone to another Super Bowl at that point, I'm taking

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Speaker 1: Sean Peyton. Look. I love what Pete Carroll has been

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Speaker 1: able to do at both USC and Seattle, no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it. I think his positive demeanor shows that it

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Speaker 1: can be done in the NFL with some positivity, with

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Speaker 1: some love for competition. And I think Pete Carroll created

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Speaker 1: that up in Seattle, and I think he's done a

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Speaker 1: fabulous job. I gotta win one game. I want Sean Payton.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, well said, they both have the same

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Speaker 1: number of wins. Wild and I agree with you on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback situation. Although the ian Book family would like

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Speaker 1: to have a word. But okay, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa,

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Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. I said it during

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Speaker 1: draft weekend. You know this, when he was drafted. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: that's a massive mistake. It's a massive mistake. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Sean Payton didn't need to have him in book. There's

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Speaker 1: no way now Sean Payton and this, you can fault

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Speaker 1: him for this. Sean Payton did draft Ian Book. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know Mickey Loomis's GM, but Sean Payton makes that decision.

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Speaker 1: Any draft in the fourth round, if you got him

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Speaker 1: in the seventh round, you should have go with Sam

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Speaker 1: Ellinger at that point. If he wanted a quarterback that

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Speaker 1: couldn't throw but could run, Sam Ellinger was that guy.

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Speaker 1: And I think Sam throws the ball better than than

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Speaker 1: people think, and he throws a better than he in book.

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Speaker 1: So from that magnet. From that standpoint, you follow Sean

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Speaker 1: Payton for drafting Ian Book. But I ain't putting I

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Speaker 1: in book on Sean Payton, that's for sure. But Ian

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Speaker 1: Book won a lot of games. So you're saying that

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Speaker 1: the law are you diving into quarterback wins? Now? Seriously?

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Speaker 1: I mean Ken Dorsey would like work because Ken Dorsey

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Speaker 1: had a lot of quarterback wins in the league. Quarterback, Well,

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Speaker 1: I college mean you didn't let me finish though I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say. You're saying Notre Dame's talent is better

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Speaker 1: than the law Horrens has been when Ellinger was there.

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Speaker 1: All right, is it obvious? Just listen to the draft? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, it's crazy. It's crazy. How many names from

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Speaker 1: the University of Texas do we call last year? Gosh? Please,

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Speaker 1: I mean I can't believe it. You sit here in

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Speaker 1: the hotbed of all hotbeds. Okay, but don't get me

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Speaker 1: started on that. Who's better? We're still playing this thing

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks, Johnny. We've asked different versions of this question

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Speaker 1: throughout the year, but we'll go who's best first rounders?

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Speaker 1: All right? So Trevor Lawrence, Trey Lance, Justin Fields, Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: Who do you got right now? Moving forward? Moving forward?

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Speaker 1: You've seen them all a little bit. Who's your guy

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Speaker 1: moving forward? Out of those first rounders? So we're gonna

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Speaker 1: leave Mills out of it. Trey Lance. Oh, and here's

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Speaker 1: why hey physically gifted beyond I mean, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: even explain seeing him live. I knew he was talented.

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Speaker 1: I knew he was you know, had to size everything

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Speaker 1: seeing him up close, and everybody Mike Meltzer disagree with me.

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Speaker 1: lot of He's limited. I said, it doesn't matter. It

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Speaker 1: should be Trey Lance going forward. Trey Lance. You gain

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Speaker 1: nothing from the forty nine ers if Jimmy Garoppolo gets

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Speaker 1: on a run in the playoffs and takes them all

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Speaker 1: the way to the super Bowl, even wins the super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that. First of all, I don't

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Speaker 1: think he could do that. I don't think he can

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Speaker 1: do well. That's the thing. Yeah, now it's now it's

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Speaker 1: a whole different discussion if that ends up House. I

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Speaker 1: know you didn't mean it that way. Yeah, but my

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Speaker 1: point being what you're saying, it's not worth going around

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Speaker 1: or two which don't Yeah, don't do what Jimmy. You

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Speaker 1: can just keep going with Trey Lance, Trey Lant and

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Speaker 1: and and that's the other side of this. The other

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Speaker 1: one would be Mac Jones. Well, Max got a pretty

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Speaker 1: solid supporting cast around, and then offense line's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He's got a run game that's pretty solid with Damian

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Speaker 1: Harrison Romandre Stevenson, and he's got some pretty consistent weapons

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Speaker 1: to throw. Three, he doesn't have a rainy moss out there,

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Speaker 1: but he's got a lot of consistent dudes and two

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Speaker 1: really athletic tight ends. In New England, Trey Lance has

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Speaker 1: that same thing. He's got a good offensive line, Elijah

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Speaker 1: Mitchell has been very good to run game. He's got Deebo,

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Speaker 1: Samuel Brandon, Ayuke and George Kittle. He's got a tremendous

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Speaker 1: supporting castle. By the way, he's got Kyle Shannon call

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Speaker 1: him place for him. Trey Lance's best set up to

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Speaker 1: succeed out of that group of the first rounders. Now,

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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in Jackson though, who they surround

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence with. And we'll see what happens in Chicago,

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Speaker 1: presumably if Matt Nagie is not there to see who

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Speaker 1: takes over to help justin fields. But as of right now,

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Speaker 1: to me, the formula is best with Trey Lance with

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Speaker 1: all of he adds around him. And you could see it.

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Speaker 1: I mean you saw it, Mark, We saw it in

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Speaker 1: the second half. Now, obviously the Texans wore down a

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Speaker 1: little bit, but Trey Lance started getting comfortable in that

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Speaker 1: second half and it was like, oh, I could see

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Speaker 1: where this thing is going, and the NFC West is

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Speaker 1: not gonna like it in due time. He started twice

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Speaker 1: in seven hundred and thirty days. Give that joker some

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Speaker 1: time to start week to week to week to week

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Speaker 1: and see what he's able to do with all those

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Speaker 1: weapons around him. Okay, all right, Johnny, I got one

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Speaker 1: more for you. You're gonna tell me after the break

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Speaker 1: offseason activity, what's better Senior Bowl or Combine? Tell me

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Speaker 1: Don't leave home without him, Johnny. One quick thing about

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Speaker 1: Coach of the Year. I think Kingsbury deserves a little

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Speaker 1: bit of a hat tip at the very least, because

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Speaker 1: he was without his studs. Murray hop for a while.

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Speaker 1: Murray came back hops not. He won games with Colt

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Speaker 1: McCoy and Connor doing well for them. They went two

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Speaker 1: and one with those guys. They bounced back last week

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Speaker 1: with the win over Dallas. Who knows what happens this weekend,

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Speaker 1: But I think he certainly deserves some credit, some acknowledgement here.

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Speaker 1: I think so too. I mean, look, you got the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals in the playoffs, and I'm trying to remember the

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Speaker 1: last time they were in the playoffs. So he got him. Look,

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Speaker 1: he got him the playoffs. I think when you look

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Speaker 1: at the history of what Cliff has done, I think

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Speaker 1: has that I think has stayed this year a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I think that win against the Cowboys on the road,

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Speaker 1: actually not really on the road for Kyler Murray. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's right back home for him getting the win. He's

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Speaker 1: never lost at Jerry World. I think he's eight no

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Speaker 1: for Cliff stem the tide, and I don't want to

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Speaker 1: got out to such a big lead and they they're

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Speaker 1: not gonna win the NFC Wests. I don't believe. I

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Speaker 1: think they've got to get the Niners. I think a

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Speaker 1: couple of things that could get the win, they could

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Speaker 1: get them a win. But by Ramps forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: becomes really really interesting to me. I think if Cliff,

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Speaker 1: if they beat Seattle and the forty nine ers win

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Speaker 1: and the Cardinals end up winning the NFC West, then

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Speaker 1: I definitely think he's under consideration. But as much as

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Speaker 1: it pains me to say it, Mark, I think raybel

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Speaker 1: I mean, Rabel's done an amazing job. Amazing job. I

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Speaker 1: mean he had Derrick Henry for what seven eight games?

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Speaker 1: He was going great guns. It's fantastic he loses arguably

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Speaker 1: the best non quarterback in the league. And yeah, they

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Speaker 1: stubbed their toe a little bit, but they beat the

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Speaker 1: heavies in the AFC, they beat the Chiefs, they beat

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Speaker 1: the Bills, They've beat the big team. They ended up,

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Speaker 1: I think, losing to the Steelers, but they beat the

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers on a Thursday night when I sort

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Speaker 1: of thought they were dead. I think Rabel needs absolutely,

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Speaker 1: he absolutely needs consideration for it. There's no doubt. How

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Speaker 1: about the Jets beat them, and they were about to

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Speaker 1: beat the Bucks, but they didn't beat the Bucks anyway,

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Speaker 1: let's go to all right, So Combine or Senior Bowl?

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Speaker 1: Which is better? Give me a quickie. Senior Bowl because

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Speaker 1: it's football. I mean it is. I know, you know

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Speaker 1: I love the Combine two. I mean it's it's like

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Speaker 1: I walked up to dessert buffet and you said, here's

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Speaker 1: trace letchiz and here's bread pudding like pick one. Like

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Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I've never turned either one of them

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Speaker 1: down ever. So I just the Senior Bowl. It's football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's watching the sport we love as opposed

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Speaker 1: to the Combine. You know I love the Combine because

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Speaker 1: and I we talked with my Keith. We talk with

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Speaker 1: you know the one year the last time we went,

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Speaker 1: we had all the NFC North voices, so we I

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Speaker 1: That to me is the fun of the combine and

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Speaker 1: makes it really really fun. It gets all of us

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Speaker 1: together in one place. It's really cool because there's such

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Speaker 1: a lull between those. So I love the Combine. But

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Speaker 1: the Senior Bowls football, man, it is yea three straight days,

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Speaker 1: leave it in Indies, absolutely all right. So Sunday, last

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Speaker 1: time these two teams met, Texans picked off Ryan Tannehill

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Speaker 1: four times. That's a lot to ask for again. But

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be no Derrick Henry appearance, so maybe you

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Speaker 1: can slow them down a little bit. But they got

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Speaker 1: brown back, they got some guys that they didn't have

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Speaker 1: last time in Foreman's going really good. Your thoughts, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think that obviously is the key with Foreman. They're

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Speaker 1: same exact way. Everybody gets a hat on a hat.

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Speaker 1: And as Deantay Foreman and said Derrick Henry, they do

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Speaker 1: I think the key to this game is, I mean,

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Speaker 1: the question, you're better scoring the second half. Our second

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Speaker 1: half scoring has been lousy. I texted you to day

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Speaker 1: what it's been. It's not been good, especially the third quarter.

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Speaker 1: You got to come out of the third quarter and

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Speaker 1: They have something on the line for the first time

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Speaker 1: but you got to do it by scoring some points

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847
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Speaker 1: it's very humbling, man, just to you know, even be

848
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:28,280
Speaker 1: in that position. So um, I'm just embracing it and

849
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, just taking it one day at a time,

850
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,720
Speaker 1: step by step. Andre, Now that you've reached this step,

851
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 1: I know you talked about when you're playing, you play

852
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: your butt off and you just be You play and

853
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: you compete, but have you started to envision what it

854
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: might be like to be on stage to see your

855
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,840
Speaker 1: bust and you started to kind of envision those things

856
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 1: now that you've reached this stage of being a finalist

857
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: for All of Fame. Yeah, you know, to be honest,

858
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: I never, um. I used to get asked about it

859
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: all the time, and I used to always say I would.

860
00:46:58,840 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: I never really thought about it, you know, because you know,

861
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,479
Speaker 1: when you retire, you know, you have to wait five

862
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: years to even be considered, you know, for the all

863
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,800
Speaker 1: the tames. So I think now, you know, being a finalist,

864
00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: I think more about it. Of course, now being a finalist,

865
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,520
Speaker 1: I hear more about it everywhere I go. You know,

866
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,560
Speaker 1: people are to congratulate me in you know, telling me,

867
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, they hope I get in on the first

868
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,879
Speaker 1: ballot and things like that. So I hear it every

869
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: day now since becoming a finalist. So you know, it's

870
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: just it's definitely something you think about. I think about

871
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: it more now than I ever. Well, you've been on

872
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: a bit of a hall of Fame tour, really, Andre,

873
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: because you're in the Houston Sports Hall of Fame, got

874
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: adducted last spring, Texas Sports Hall of Fame. Before that,

875
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,200
Speaker 1: I was with you in twenty fourteen when you got

876
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 1: abducted into the Miami Hurricanes Sports Hall of Fame. What's

877
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: it been like to get into those halls? And I

878
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 1: got to imagine it kind of gets you ready for

879
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: the big moment possibly with the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Well,

880
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: I think anytime you can go on to hall of fame,

881
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,719
Speaker 1: you know, no matter what level it is, you know, college,

882
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: high school, Um, you know, even the Texas Sports Hall

883
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: of Fame. You know, it's it's a tremendous honor. You know,

884
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,880
Speaker 1: it just shows all the hard work in dedication you

885
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: put into your craft. You know that it all paid offs.

886
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: You know, I think, you know, the NFL Hall of

887
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: Fame is you know, the probably the biggest accomplishment you

888
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 1: know you can make, you can have, other than winning

889
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. So, um, just like I said, just

890
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: to be considered, you know, just to be a finalist. Man,

891
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: it just it's very humbling, like I said, still really

892
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: hasn't said any yet, you know. So like I said,

893
00:48:56,120 --> 00:48:59,560
Speaker 1: I get asked about it all the time where I go. Now,

894
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: you know, people are just you know, talking about it.

895
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm just I'm just embracing the moment

896
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: and you know, hopefully, you know, we could take that

897
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: next step and get in the camp. And there's so

898
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:14,399
Speaker 1: many people in the city of Houston Andrea that are

899
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: you know, so so proud of you. And what if

900
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: I'm fascinating is you're from Miami, you went to the U.

901
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 1: But if people were to ask about Andrea Johnson are like,

902
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 1: oh no, he's a Houstonian. He's a Houstonian. You've clicked

903
00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: for some reason in this particular city. Like people gravitate

904
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: like you're of Houston. Like when I Kim Lai Juan

905
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: came here in the eighties, I mean he played his

906
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: college ball in Houston. Yeah, he's from Nigeria, but he

907
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: plays college ball in Houston. That attached him to the city.

908
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,839
Speaker 1: You came from Miami and just play ball, and you're

909
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 1: now more Houstonian or thought of as Houstonian, maybe even

910
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:51,200
Speaker 1: more than you are a native of South Florida. Does

911
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: that How does that make you feel? Well? That's funny

912
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: because you know sometimes you know, being in Miami, guy,

913
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: you know, I root for the heat, you know and

914
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Basketball. So uh, sometimes when people see

915
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 1: me post something about the heat, you know, they take

916
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: it personal. And it's funny because, like I think they

917
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: forget that I'm from Miami. Yeah, I think you know

918
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 1: now people, you know, people think I guess because I've

919
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 1: been here so long and like you said, just you know,

920
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: I've just kind of clicked with the city. Uh. You know,

921
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,840
Speaker 1: people think that I'm from Houston, and you know something,

922
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: It's funny because you would read some of the comings

923
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: and people would be like, you're not realize that he's

924
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 1: trum like so, Um, I don't know, man, It's just

925
00:50:39,719 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: something about this city. I always tell people from the

926
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 1: time I got here, they they embraced me, um, like

927
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: I was one of their own. And you know, and

928
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 1: in a coming I made the other day when I

929
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: found out found out that I was a finalist, like

930
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:00,840
Speaker 1: when I played, Um, when I played the game on Sunday, Like,

931
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: you know, I always tell people, it wasn't just for me,

932
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,760
Speaker 1: you know, it was it was it was to represent

933
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: everybody in this city. Um. You know when I when

934
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 1: I went out on that feel and played, you know,

935
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't just about me. It wasn't just about my teammates.

936
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,560
Speaker 1: You know. I always embraced the challenge to put this

937
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 1: organization on the map. And you know, like I said,

938
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't just about me. It was about everybody. You know,

939
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: It's about this whole city of Houston. Because many people

940
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 1: didn't respect us when I first got here. And you know,

941
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: the way I played the game, I wanted people to

942
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: respect us and you know, give us. I just do

943
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: so you know that's what motivated me every day to

944
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: go out and compete the way I did, and he

945
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:47,080
Speaker 1: gave us so many unforgettable moments. Andre Johnson joining us

946
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: on Texans Monday. Andre Reggie Wayne as a finalist as well.

947
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:53,719
Speaker 1: You guys were on the same campus together. Your careers

948
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,400
Speaker 1: overlapped so long. He started in OH one, you started

949
00:51:57,400 --> 00:51:59,319
Speaker 1: in O three. You were in the same division. Have

950
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: you talked to Reggie at all about this? He has

951
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,480
Speaker 1: previously said you are definitely a Hall of Famer. Have

952
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:10,960
Speaker 1: you talked to him? Yeah, the day that the finalist

953
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,440
Speaker 1: list came out, UM, I texted him, and you know

954
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,439
Speaker 1: it's you don't see two two guys from the same

955
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: position going on Hall at the same time, especially not

956
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: the receiving position. So you know, I told him, I say, Man,

957
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,279
Speaker 1: you know, I wish things could be different this year

958
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: and we both can go in at the same time.

959
00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 1: You know. You know, Reggie was my host when I

960
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 1: came to Miami UM on my official visit when I

961
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,959
Speaker 1: was in high school. So, man, we have so many

962
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: great memories. He's a great friend of mine, you know,

963
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: like a brother to me, a big brother to me.

964
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: You know, we competed against each other a lot throughout

965
00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: our career because we were both in the same division,

966
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, like I said, I've told people before,

967
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,200
Speaker 1: Reggie deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. And

968
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, it's just crazy that we both finalist and

969
00:53:06,120 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure it's not even one of us

970
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: that's going to get in, but you know, no matter

971
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: who it is, and not tell people, you know, if

972
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: I don't get in this year, you know, I'm okay

973
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: with it. Um. You know, I'm just happy just to

974
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 1: even be considered. So but I definitely think Reggie deserves

975
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 1: to be in the Hall. The time get me thinking,

976
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 1: so I pull it up the two thousand one Miami roster.

977
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah it's pretty good. Yeah, I mean it's pretty good.

978
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: It's pretty it's pretty dumb good when you start looking

979
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,439
Speaker 1: at it. I mean, even guys that were that were

980
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 1: backups on that team ended up being legends. Dre. You

981
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 1: talked about this a little bit. We talked about the

982
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: connection to Houston. You were the first to go into

983
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: the Ring of Honor for the Texans. When you go

984
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame, whether it's this year or

985
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: next year or whatever it might be, you're gonna be

986
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: the first Texans player to go in to the Hall

987
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: of Fame. Being the first to do something? Does that

988
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: matter at all to you? Does that mean something to

989
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 1: you that you were the first to be able to

990
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: do those things for an NFL franchise. Um. I never

991
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: really thought about it like that, but I think, uh,

992
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: when you are the first to do something, um, it

993
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: just uh you know, you will forever be remembered. Um.

994
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 1: You know, you you create it. Uh, you know, a legacy.

995
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 1: Um like that. People say it's almost like immortalizing yourself.

996
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 1: So U I just I don't really gives too much

997
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: thought to it, you know, about being the first. But

998
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 1: you know, I think when you are first, you know,

999
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,560
Speaker 1: it just h you know, it just says a lot.

1000
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: So um, I just like I said, I just try

1001
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: to embrace every moment. Um. I don't try to overthink things,

1002
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I just kind of let things play out. Man.

1003
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,399
Speaker 1: So you know, like I said, hasn't really all set

1004
00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: in yet, you know, I think, you know, probably I

1005
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: get that knock on the doors when it set in.

1006
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: So right now, I'm just taking a step. By stepping

1007
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: is embracing it at all? Okay, So put your steak

1008
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: in the ground. Two thousand and one Miami Hurricanes greatest

1009
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 1: college football team all time, Yester or No, he went

1010
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:30,000
Speaker 1: there about it. There it is. I mean, it's insane

1011
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: to look at the people are on that team. Absolutely,

1012
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: it is the greatest team of all time. Hey, the

1013
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: two thousand Hurricanes, Drey, because that's when you and Reggie

1014
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: were on together, right, Santana Moss And you know, speaking

1015
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,840
Speaker 1: of of Hall of Fame, I know an Quan Bolden

1016
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 1: didn't make the finalist list, but he'll have an opportunity

1017
00:55:46,680 --> 00:55:49,160
Speaker 1: down the line. And you have three guys are on

1018
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:51,799
Speaker 1: the field together during wide write three because he played

1019
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: for Florida State. That's pretty strong as well, right right, Yeah,

1020
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 1: Ankhon was a great player. Um, you know, me and

1021
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:04,479
Speaker 1: a corn came out of high school together the same

1022
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,760
Speaker 1: year in ninety nine. We played in the Florida Georgia

1023
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: game together. He was my quarterback. He was a quarterback

1024
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: in high school. So great player, tremendous talent. Man always

1025
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: you know, kept up with him and his career. Definitely

1026
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 1: a guy that's deserving to be in the Hall of Fame. Also,

1027
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,520
Speaker 1: you know, play the game the right way, compete it hard,

1028
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: very physical receiver. Something I always loved about him. In

1029
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,840
Speaker 1: his game. Dre had a magical dozen years here. I

1030
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,240
Speaker 1: know you're also part of the coaching staff at one point,

1031
00:56:40,320 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: and we saw you in the mcnairs suite last Sunday

1032
00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,400
Speaker 1: sitting with the mcnairs and watching a terrific win for

1033
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: the Texans over the LA Chargers. What were your thoughts

1034
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: on being there, being with the mcnairs and also what

1035
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: you were seeing on the football field that day as

1036
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:59,239
Speaker 1: the Texans beat lam It was great to be back,

1037
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,799
Speaker 1: and then just in the stadium in general. I had

1038
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: had a chance to come watch many games over the

1039
00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:12,320
Speaker 1: past few years, but it was just great to be back.

1040
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: M sit there with miss Janis and Cal, you know,

1041
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,880
Speaker 1: just talk about the game and things of that nature.

1042
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 1: You know, I just watched the team play. You know,

1043
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the year, you know, there were

1044
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: so many different guys here and that were brought in

1045
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,160
Speaker 1: free agents and things of that nature. And you know,

1046
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: I think in that game you just kind of seen

1047
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 1: it just seems like things have kind of like, uh,

1048
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 1: I guess you could say, slow down, slow down a

1049
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: little bit. You know, the team seemed to be coming

1050
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,400
Speaker 1: together as one. One thing I've always just noticed about

1051
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,720
Speaker 1: the guys. They go out and compete hard every week.

1052
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 1: You know, that's never a question. But it just seemed

1053
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: like everything just kind of came together on that Sunday

1054
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: when they played against the Chargers. Uh, you know, everything

1055
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: we're just kind of clicking. Guys were creating turnovers and

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00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: things of that nature. So it was a fun game

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00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: to watch. What are you seeing in Mills so far?

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00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: That was a good day for him? Rookie quarterback, third

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00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:16,200
Speaker 1: round draft choice. And what are you seeing from him?

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00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: On rag? Um? I think things are starting to Um,

1061
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: the game is starting to slow the down for him. Um.

1062
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: You know you can see that in um in the

1063
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: charge of the game. Um, I didn't. I just got

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00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: to watch the first half of the game yesterday. I

1065
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:35,800
Speaker 1: couldn't watch the whole game yesterday, But you know, I

1066
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: think things are starting to slow down for him. You

1067
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,400
Speaker 1: know that that happens with rookies they come in. You know,

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00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: he was kind of you know, I think you know,

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00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,280
Speaker 1: they didn't really expect you know, uh, probably playing them

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00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 1: this year. But you know, the things happened with Deshan

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00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: different things, so um, you know he got through into

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00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 1: the fire and uh, you know, as a rookie man

1073
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 1: just adjusting from you know, college to the pro's. It's

1074
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,919
Speaker 1: a different game and it's just that much faster game.

1075
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,080
Speaker 1: As you know, guys are disguis, defense is better and

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00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 1: things of that nature. So but I think he's improved.

1077
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: I think the game has slowed down for him. He

1078
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: seems to be more comfortable now, um than he was

1079
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,240
Speaker 1: in the beginning of the season. Dre all this you know,

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00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame stuff for you. We've known you for

1081
00:59:28,080 --> 00:59:30,800
Speaker 1: for a while. We know it's like it can be

1082
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 1: uncomfortable and everybody's like, I'm in good luck and they're

1083
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 1: all talking about that. But I know Houston people are

1084
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: very very proud, and I know Houston fans all probably

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00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: have a favorite Andre Johnson moment as a Texan, and

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00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 1: it's all different. I think everybody. I think Mark and

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00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: I would sit here and we come up with a

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00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: million of them. We probably each have a different one.

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00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: But from you the man himself, do you have one

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00:59:54,520 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 1: that you you remember more than anything else, like and

1091
00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 1: Andre Johnson moment from Andre Johnson that stands out more

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01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 1: than any other. Um. I always tell people my favorite

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01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: memory is winning our first playoff game. Um, you know,

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 1: here in Houston against Cincinnati. That's probably my favorite, uh

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01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 1: momentum favorite play was just involving me. I would probably say, well,

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01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: actually I have two of them. So catch against Washington,

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01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: the fourth down catch yep right against Washington. Washington. The

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01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:43,520
Speaker 1: player against Arizona when I ran over the two guys

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01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: to going to the end zone isn't probably my favorite

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01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: two player But degree of difficulty, Dre. Don't you think

1101
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,560
Speaker 1: fourth and ten over Yeremiah Bell just pluck it on

1102
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: his head, pluck plucking that ball away from him. That

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01:00:56,640 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 1: was probably the toughest catch. Am I wrong about that?

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Speaker 1: Can you rate that one for me? Yeah? That will

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01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:11,440
Speaker 1: that will probably be my third favorite, Okay, behind Washington

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01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 1: and uh yeah Arizona play that would that would be

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Speaker 1: my third one. Those are the three plays always, those

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01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 1: those three plays out of first three plays, that pretty

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01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: much they got in my mind I think about my

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01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: favorite plays I had throughout my career. There's Andre Johnson

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame finalist and the home field Advantage captain

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Speaker 1: let's get somewhere are they now? Either you go to

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01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:06,400
Speaker 1: out all the great interviews with former Texans players. One

1139
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: of them right here will have a piece of it. Glover, Quinn,

1140
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 1: played corner, played safety, played a lot of things with

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01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,959
Speaker 1: this franchise. Ended up in Detroit as a free agent

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01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: signe by the Lions. But let's start here Drew Doherty

1143
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 1: and Glover talking about two thousand and nine. Glover's rookie campaign. Yeah,

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01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: oh nine was was was really crazy, man, because like

1145
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,760
Speaker 1: I said, I think back to think back to opening day.

1146
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: You know, we're playing of Jets. Yeah, and we got beat.

1147
01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,520
Speaker 1: I was on the inside. I think I played seventeen

1148
01:03:36,600 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: played that game and it was tough in there. Came

1149
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:42,960
Speaker 1: back week two, we played Tennessee Titans. It's one of

1150
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: the greatest games I've ever seen. I mean, you guys

1151
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 1: there physically, you fist fought, you fought them. I mean

1152
01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 1: anyway back and forth. It was a great game and

1153
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: down and we won, but we didn't play like great.

1154
01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 1: You know, I think Chris Johnson had a couple of

1155
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 1: like ninety ninety two yard touchdown runs. There were a

1156
01:04:00,360 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: couple of plays where you're nobody was even guarding yet.

1157
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying it was your guy to guard,

1158
01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: you know, but he was just out there and like

1159
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:09,960
Speaker 1: they Yeah. Anyways, but I had played pretty solid in

1160
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: the inside, right, So then we came back the third

1161
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: week against Jacksonville. It was a little differently played nine

1162
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 1: plates that game. I got that start against Oakland in

1163
01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: week four. You know, Oakland had just drafted Darius Hayward Bay,

1164
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: fastest guy in the in the combine. They had JaMarcus

1165
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 1: Russell from I think the year before quarterback that can

1166
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:31,439
Speaker 1: throw at the fartest yeah, and that's why they matched

1167
01:04:31,480 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 1: me up on Darius Hayward Bay. So I'm going into

1168
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: that game like, Okay, I'm the slow, fat dB matched

1169
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,160
Speaker 1: up against this fast, the fastest guy at corner with

1170
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:43,600
Speaker 1: the big arm, Jamacus Russells. I said, you know what,

1171
01:04:43,800 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: I know, I can tackle. I'm not gonna let him

1172
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 1: run past him and catch the deep ball. I think

1173
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:50,200
Speaker 1: he might have had two catches for like twenty yards

1174
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: that game. Little curl routes. I had like seven tackles,

1175
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: like two TFLs, a couple of big hits, you know

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01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like playing my responsive building exactly how

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:03,160
Speaker 1: you know I was supposed to, and boom. It just

1178
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,800
Speaker 1: went from there. The next week playing Arizona, I think

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01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 1: we went out there, man, Jock was kind of rotating

1180
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. I will start, but Jock will come

1181
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: in and then I will go back in. And then

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01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,919
Speaker 1: I think after we played Cincinnati it was like, hey,

1183
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: you starting all the time? Yeah, that was it. You know,

1184
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: it was a crazy year. We ended up I think

1185
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: it was five and seven at one point. Well, yeah,

1186
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,160
Speaker 1: because you got you guys go up to its Halloween weekend,

1187
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 1: you go up to Buffalo, you'll win. You got to

1188
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: five and three and you're going into buy five and

1189
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: three and then you guys come out of the by

1190
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 1: you lose four, and then you win the final four

1191
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: and Arian Foster emerges at the end of the season. Yeah,

1192
01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,000
Speaker 1: it was. It was a bananas bananas season for sure.

1193
01:05:43,120 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: And like you win on that final day and it's

1194
01:05:45,160 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 1: a new game and the game's over. You guys still

1195
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 1: are technically in playoff position. Like if some stuff falls

1196
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: y'all's way. It was a fun season, and then the

1197
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: next year you start the whole way through. You play solid,

1198
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,200
Speaker 1: but it was a tough year for the defense, just

1199
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,640
Speaker 1: you lose all those games. What was it like in

1200
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:05,240
Speaker 1: eleven when Wade comes in and moves you from your

1201
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 1: solid corner but moves you to a position in which

1202
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: you would wind up just flourishing. I mean, gosh, Glover,

1203
01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: you finish your career with twenty four interceptions, It's a lot.

1204
01:06:14,920 --> 01:06:16,360
Speaker 1: What was it like when he comes in and makes

1205
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: that change for it? How? How excited were you? How

1206
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,400
Speaker 1: cautious were you? What did it? What was it like?

1207
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean I was excited because I always had the

1208
01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: personality of a safety. Yeah. Safeties are the guys on

1209
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 1: the field that make the calls, that communicate. Corners don't

1210
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,959
Speaker 1: really make calls. Corners just kind of cover their guys.

1211
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:33,520
Speaker 1: They don't really you know, you get some of them

1212
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:35,479
Speaker 1: that are smart, but a lot of corners don't really

1213
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 1: know a lot or care about a lot. They just

1214
01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:39,880
Speaker 1: know how I'm in man and man, hey, I'm in

1215
01:06:39,880 --> 01:06:41,600
Speaker 1: cover three, I'm in cover to it right. They don't

1216
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: have a ton of stuff, But safeties, you know, they're

1217
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 1: they're the ones making all the justustments, they're making the calls,

1218
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:50,800
Speaker 1: they're getting everybody lined up. And I always had that personality.

1219
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,720
Speaker 1: So when I was even when I was at corner,

1220
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: I would want to make calls, but I couldn't because

1221
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 1: when I was young and for two, I wasn't the safety.

1222
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,920
Speaker 1: So I would be like looking at the safety, like, bro,

1223
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:03,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna make this call? Like you want to see

1224
01:07:03,440 --> 01:07:06,280
Speaker 1: this right? Like can't you not see what I'm seeing

1225
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 1: right now? Make the call? I'm tough. Was that that

1226
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 1: was tough. It was tough with Wade coming in, you know,

1227
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:14,280
Speaker 1: I kind of felt like it was also an even

1228
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: playing field, right we were all learning the defense. It

1229
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: wasn't like somebody had been there and knew the system

1230
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,280
Speaker 1: more than me. So I kind of felt like it

1231
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 1: was it was even playing field. We had the lockout

1232
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:25,120
Speaker 1: that year, and so we were able to meet with

1233
01:07:25,120 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 1: Wading them advancing all those guys before the lockout get

1234
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 1: some information so that we can like start, you know,

1235
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: we used to have like team functions. Well, we would

1236
01:07:34,080 --> 01:07:36,960
Speaker 1: get together at RICE and like you know, shoping to

1237
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 1: meet going all those guys and we would kind of

1238
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:40,840
Speaker 1: go through our own. We're gonna go through our own

1239
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 1: like OTAs and stuff without the coaches because it was

1240
01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: in the lockout year, you know, once the lockout was

1241
01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: over with, I think we had drafted J. J. Watt

1242
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: and they signed Jonathan Joseph that year and they signed

1243
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: the Dan Yeah Man in that year. Yeah, and so

1244
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: we come that those guys didn't show up until a

1245
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,720
Speaker 1: training camp, but they had to miss a couple of

1246
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 1: days training camp because deals and stuff didn't get finalized

1247
01:08:01,920 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 1: until because of the lockout, right, and we were just

1248
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 1: kind of learning it right and wage system was pretty cool.

1249
01:08:08,320 --> 01:08:10,479
Speaker 1: It was kind of easy. And Vance was a great

1250
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: coach and teacher. He's ad Vance is the clearest communicator

1251
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:17,439
Speaker 1: as far as coaches that I've ever killed her. And

1252
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: there's been a lot of great communicators yet, but he's

1253
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,600
Speaker 1: been the clearest. I mean, do you you kind of

1254
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: agree with that idea? Yeah, Vance was. Vance was amazed.

1255
01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:29,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I learned so much in my career

1256
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 1: from those two years with Vance and that I took

1257
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 1: with me for the rest of my career and coupled

1258
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: it with you know, some of the DV coaches I

1259
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: had in Detroit, Like it just you know, propelled my career,

1260
01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 1: but it started with Vance. He kind of opened he

1261
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: opened my eyes to a lot of things that we

1262
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 1: could do in the secondary. But as far as it

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01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:51,559
Speaker 1: wasn't vanilla, you make your calls. You got you got

1264
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: different tools in your tool box, and you got to

1265
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:55,800
Speaker 1: pull them out at the right time. You know, you

1266
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 1: got to make the call that you think, you know

1267
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,479
Speaker 1: it's going to help you in that situation. And so

1268
01:08:59,600 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 1: Vance really good at that. So I came in my

1269
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:03,679
Speaker 1: fourth year and I felt really good my fourth year.

1270
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: You know, I had a year of safety under my belt.

1271
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,559
Speaker 1: I understood the dime a lot better. I understood what

1272
01:09:08,560 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: they wanted me to do. I was. I was in

1273
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:12,120
Speaker 1: my fourth year. You know, I was making a little

1274
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: more money. I hit my escalators and my contracts. I

1275
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 1: was feeling good in year four, you know, safety. I

1276
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 1: was playing well, had made a bunch of plays and

1277
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: made a bunch of plays at the at the dime position.

1278
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,400
Speaker 1: I caught a couple of pigs, forced a couple of

1279
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,680
Speaker 1: fun because I think made a cup of sacks. You know,

1280
01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:28,600
Speaker 1: we came our road. I think we were seven and

1281
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,640
Speaker 1: old that year, six and old something like that. And

1282
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,679
Speaker 1: then we ended up you know, we got beat pretty

1283
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: good on Sunday night by a Green Bay. Yeah, but

1284
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: you went to eleven and one, you went to eleven one.

1285
01:09:38,320 --> 01:09:41,719
Speaker 1: One didn't end the way you want. But we tricked

1286
01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: it off. Man, I was talking about that like yesterday.

1287
01:09:43,960 --> 01:09:45,760
Speaker 1: I think we tricked it off those last two games.

1288
01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: We only needed to win one to be have home

1289
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:53,360
Speaker 1: field advantage, and we lost to Minnesota and we set

1290
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:56,560
Speaker 1: sixteen and then we lost the Indie and Week seventeen,

1291
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,559
Speaker 1: and so now we go from a potential one seed

1292
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: to the three seed. And that way, you know, we

1293
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 1: had we had a home game against Cincinnati, but then

1294
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 1: we had to go to New England in round two

1295
01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: as opposed to being the home team, and would have

1296
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 1: had to play Baltimore in the second round because Baltimore

1297
01:10:14,439 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: went to Denver that year in the freezing cold game. Right,

1298
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: but we would have had to play Baltimore, and you know,

1299
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,640
Speaker 1: Baltimore was rolling that year. They ended up winning it,

1300
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: But earlier in that season, we had to beat Baltimore

1301
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: like forty something cold cocks. You changed their season, like

1302
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 1: they had to have meetings after the beating you guys

1303
01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 1: gave them. Yeah, smashed them, and so you know, we

1304
01:10:36,040 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 1: probably would have felt really confident going into that game

1305
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 1: at home against Baltimore. We continue our conversation with Glover Quinn,

1306
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,560
Speaker 1: Texans defensive back who played here from two thousand and

1307
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:50,719
Speaker 1: nine through twenty twelve. That season ends and you wind

1308
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 1: up signing with the Lions, and in retrospect, I mean,

1309
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 1: how tough was that for you? Or were you happy

1310
01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: to just be going someplace and getting the money in Detroit?

1311
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: But how tough was it to leave some of your

1312
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: teammates behind, a city that you love, behind me you

1313
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: still live here, franchise, et cetera. What was that like

1314
01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:08,720
Speaker 1: for you? It was tough, man, It was that that

1315
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,639
Speaker 1: was a hard time for me because I really wanted

1316
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: to be here. I wanted to be here, Like I said,

1317
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,920
Speaker 1: I lived at a house here. I love the city,

1318
01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:18,639
Speaker 1: great football city, and so I wanted to stay. And

1319
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: you know, all the way up until you know, I

1320
01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:24,040
Speaker 1: guess for agency. You know what I was hearing from

1321
01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: Rick and those guys that they wanted to be back,

1322
01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: they just never really came to the table, you know,

1323
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:33,200
Speaker 1: and so I go, um, you know, they started doing

1324
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:36,639
Speaker 1: like the little tempera window. I think that year. So

1325
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 1: as soon as the tempera window opened up, I guess

1326
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:44,920
Speaker 1: Detroit caused my agent like twelve h five or whatever,

1327
01:11:45,200 --> 01:11:47,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, and they wanted me to

1328
01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 1: come out on the visit. They wanted me to come in.

1329
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,400
Speaker 1: And I was sitting there like what Detrot you know,

1330
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,719
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't want to creaking go to Detroit,

1331
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: like the text I call you guys, and so he

1332
01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,680
Speaker 1: was like, well, you know my like, well, you know,

1333
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:03,599
Speaker 1: we just go out there on the visit. You know,

1334
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,839
Speaker 1: maybe you know somebody would see like, hey there's interest

1335
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,559
Speaker 1: from somebody else. Somebody come to with a offer for you.

1336
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: So I was like all right, man, So you know,

1337
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: they have my ticket schedule. So as soon as the

1338
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,840
Speaker 1: as soon as the official free agency opens up, I

1339
01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 1: could get on the flight because I couldn't fly out

1340
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: there beforehand. But as soon as I think four o'clock

1341
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: Eastern time, three o'clock Houston time hit they called me boom,

1342
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,160
Speaker 1: hey we got your flight. You leave in Houston and

1343
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 1: five something, so they had already kind of communicated. I

1344
01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:42,439
Speaker 1: am a bag and stuff packed. I was just waiting

1345
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:44,720
Speaker 1: for the official window to open. So I left. I

1346
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 1: go to the airport, go to Detroit, and I guess

1347
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:51,000
Speaker 1: I had no plans of signing with Detroit lines. You know,

1348
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 1: I really wanted to sign with Houston. This was kind

1349
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:56,479
Speaker 1: of a move to hope to make Houston come with

1350
01:12:56,560 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 1: an offer. But you know, in retrospect, I understood the

1351
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,840
Speaker 1: business of football, and I knew it would be tough

1352
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: for them to sign me because they had just paid

1353
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 1: J Joe, they had just paid d Man. Kareem was

1354
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: a first round and so I'm like, that's a lot

1355
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,400
Speaker 1: of money kind of tied up in the second there. Yeah,

1356
01:13:13,479 --> 01:13:15,920
Speaker 1: So I kind of knew in order for me to stay,

1357
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:18,200
Speaker 1: somebody would probably have to go, right. I kind of

1358
01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:20,439
Speaker 1: knew that. And so I get to Detroit. They offered me,

1359
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: you know, a deal, and like I said, I didn't

1360
01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: I didn't want to take the deal, you know what

1361
01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: I'm saying. I Uh, I told my age. I was like,

1362
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,480
Speaker 1: all right, man, So Detroit made an offer. When Houston

1363
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,839
Speaker 1: didn't want me, I was like, all right, Like it's

1364
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,200
Speaker 1: a shot to the heart, you know what I'm saying.

1365
01:13:35,240 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 1: But it's like they don't want you, Detroit wants me.

1366
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 1: Major decision. I signed with Detroit and like I remember

1367
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:43,200
Speaker 1: coming back home and you know, Kareem Jackson's good friend

1368
01:13:43,200 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: of mine. You know, he was at my house when

1369
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 1: I got there. You know, I was freaking crying and

1370
01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 1: like I'm going I walked through the airport, you know,

1371
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,639
Speaker 1: when I got back to Houston, like I was crying,

1372
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 1: like I'm freaking Probably get an emotional right now, because,

1373
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:00,200
Speaker 1: like I said, that was just a shot, right, Like, man,

1374
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,880
Speaker 1: they don't even want me. Well, some some people didn't.

1375
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people wanted you back. A

1376
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,640
Speaker 1: lot in history has proven that too. It was the

1377
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: wrong decision. It was the wrong decision. Heard a lot

1378
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: of stories. I've heard a lot of stories, and I

1379
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: get it. What they what they you know, I guess

1380
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 1: they were trying to do because we had made it

1381
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 1: to the second round the playoffs a couple of years

1382
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 1: in a row, and from what I heard, they felt

1383
01:14:23,640 --> 01:14:27,360
Speaker 1: like they wanted somebody to help get them over the hump, right,

1384
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:29,479
Speaker 1: So they felt like it was a guy that could

1385
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: help get them over the hump. But the thing about it,

1386
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:33,960
Speaker 1: you got to get back to the top of the

1387
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,599
Speaker 1: hump to get over the hump, right, So you got

1388
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:38,680
Speaker 1: to play a whole record of season just to get

1389
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: back to the playoffs and so but yeah, it was

1390
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, it ended up working out for me, you know.

1391
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you go on, yeah, you go on, you

1392
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:48,920
Speaker 1: pick off nineteen passes just in Detroit. You had a

1393
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 1: hell of a career. I mean, you go ten years,

1394
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:53,639
Speaker 1: you know, and you wind up loving your you wind

1395
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 1: up loving the Lions, and you made and I think,

1396
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: you know, it ended up being the best decision and

1397
01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,080
Speaker 1: for me far as my career right, because I think Detroit,

1398
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:06,960
Speaker 1: like I said, they wanted me, and they wanted to

1399
01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 1: put me in position to like to make plays right

1400
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 1: and to right. They wanted me to be like I

1401
01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 1: remember Mark make you telling me like, hey, we want

1402
01:15:17,800 --> 01:15:21,040
Speaker 1: you to like be the start of changing our culture.

1403
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,920
Speaker 1: So that year they signed me, and they signed Reggie Bush,

1404
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 1: they signed this guy named Jason Jones. It was like,

1405
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 1: we want you guys to like be the start of

1406
01:15:28,560 --> 01:15:31,240
Speaker 1: the culture change here. So I took that kind of personally.

1407
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: But you know the thing that I thought of it

1408
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,520
Speaker 1: was just like, you know, Detroit put me in positions

1409
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 1: to lead and to like make plays, and I started

1410
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,560
Speaker 1: to feel like, you know, what if I would have

1411
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: stayed in Houston, I think family wise, friend wise, citywise,

1412
01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:50,719
Speaker 1: it would have been like super cool. But the star

1413
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: power was powerful there, right. You had jj Wi, you

1414
01:15:54,520 --> 01:15:57,839
Speaker 1: had j Joe, you had you know, first round in Kareem,

1415
01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: you had Andre Johnson. You had so much star power area.

1416
01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:04,920
Speaker 1: I don't know. And I and I came in as

1417
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: a rookie kind of like a dude, bar right, I'm

1418
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:09,240
Speaker 1: doing the nickel, I'm doing it. I'm kind of just

1419
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: like that that guy that just kind of like it's

1420
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: the dude bar right, but not in a bad way.

1421
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:18,000
Speaker 1: But that just kind of the role that I had.

1422
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: And so I kind of felt like if I would

1423
01:16:19,640 --> 01:16:22,240
Speaker 1: have stayed in Houston, I don't know if I would

1424
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: have ever got put in position to be the star, right,

1425
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: I would have just I kind of would have been

1426
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,760
Speaker 1: like that role player. But I don't think I would

1427
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: have ever got put in position to be the guy,

1428
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:37,360
Speaker 1: like like Detroit put me in position to be the guy,

1429
01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:41,640
Speaker 1: and you know, so I'm very thankful for Detroit for

1430
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:43,280
Speaker 1: doing that. And it worked out. You know, I was

1431
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: able to produce and some good years, had some good

1432
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: years in Detroit. Yeah, I went to Pro Bowl, led

1433
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: the league and inceptions like, man, I'm going to people

1434
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 1: in the world can say that they led the NFL

1435
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:57,679
Speaker 1: and and it's just seven in the season. Man, seven

1436
01:16:57,960 --> 01:17:02,559
Speaker 1: y crazy. That's crazy, Glover. I want to keep going

1437
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:04,840
Speaker 1: with you, but we gotta wrap this up. My friend,

1438
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:07,960
Speaker 1: what are your Texans teammates from back in the day.

1439
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 1: He's still keep in touch with still buddies with what's

1440
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:12,080
Speaker 1: that like? Who is it? Yeah? I'm still cool with

1441
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:15,600
Speaker 1: us dB guys. Really, you know, I'm still cool with

1442
01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 1: with Aaron obviously. I'm still cool with Kareem and j Joe,

1443
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:22,639
Speaker 1: my Ce, Brian Cushing around baseball field with our kids.

1444
01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: My workout with Andre Johnson every now, and Dan men

1445
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,639
Speaker 1: Zach Wood Wood chat a little bit over social media sometimes,

1446
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean, for the most part, they're cool

1447
01:17:32,760 --> 01:17:34,560
Speaker 1: with most of those guys. You know, min Sho but

1448
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,840
Speaker 1: chat back and forth on social media Dan Dan Laski

1449
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: played with Dan and Detroit as well. So yeah, I

1450
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: mean I'm cool with I'm cool Men, Ja, Kobe Wood chat.

1451
01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,519
Speaker 1: Ive seen Jakobe in the airport one time. You know

1452
01:17:46,600 --> 01:17:51,559
Speaker 1: we talk a little bit, Coach, how about that? Yeah,

1453
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 1: that's crazy. I love Yeah, I mean, those those guys

1454
01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 1: are cool, man. You know, we see each other definitely talking.

1455
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, we interact on social media a little bit,

1456
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:03,280
Speaker 1: and I mean everybody's busy, man, so it's cool. I'll

1457
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:07,240
Speaker 1: know it. Glover, you're a good man Mischian here around here.

1458
01:18:07,280 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 1: We hope to have you back sometime soon. And it's

1459
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: good to catch up with you. Good to know. Where

1460
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:16,080
Speaker 1: are they now? Glover Quinn, there's somewhere Are they now?

1461
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: With Glover Quinn? Go to the where are they now?

1462
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,240
Speaker 1: Paige at Houston Texans dot com Get all the info,

1463
01:18:21,360 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 1: all the interviews. In fact, let's hear a piece of

1464
01:18:23,439 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: another one next. I'm not even going to tell you

1465
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:29,879
Speaker 1: who it is wide receiver. He had two kickoff returns

1466
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,640
Speaker 1: for a touchdown in one game. It's probably not who

1467
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:35,400
Speaker 1: you're thinking. And it's a great guest. Check it out

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01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 1: next here on Texans Radio. Texans All Access continues in

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Speaker 1: a moment, from the slightest bend to complex motions, your

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Speaker 1: body is made to move. At Houston Methodist Orthopedics and

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Speaker 1: Sports Medicine, our teams are using advanced technology and imaging

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01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:15,000
Speaker 1: you need at locations throughout Houston, Houston Methodist leading medicine,

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01:19:15,560 --> 01:19:20,160
Speaker 1: leading medicine leading. What are the experts predicting about this

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01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:25,000
Speaker 1: week's became Extra Points Saturday nights at ten thirty or

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01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: after the late local news on BBC thirteen our final

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01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,800
Speaker 1: discussion here at this bonus hour of Texans All Access tonight,

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01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:36,120
Speaker 1: Let's do some more. Where are they now? With the

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01:19:36,240 --> 01:19:39,240
Speaker 1: Texans set to take on the Titans in the season

1482
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: finale on Sunday. Speaking of season finales, Andre Davis. That's

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01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:46,600
Speaker 1: the guest. He once had two kickoff returns for a

1484
01:19:46,720 --> 01:19:49,799
Speaker 1: touchdown on the season finale and that enabled the Texans

1485
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,160
Speaker 1: to go five hundred for the first time ever back

1486
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,640
Speaker 1: in two thousand and seven, and Drew Doherty caught up

1487
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:58,000
Speaker 1: with him to talk about that season and some other

1488
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:01,240
Speaker 1: campaigns as well, of course, with a really great guest,

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01:20:01,680 --> 01:20:04,680
Speaker 1: Andre Davis. Oh, seven or eight o nine. I mean

1490
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 1: those are three five hundred above years. You came in

1491
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,200
Speaker 1: and they had not been winners yet. I mean, what

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01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,200
Speaker 1: was it like joining a team that first four or

1493
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,360
Speaker 1: five years, six years of their existence. They were losers.

1494
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 1: You know, you help see that type of football change

1495
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,680
Speaker 1: around here. Well, I think as long as we have

1496
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,880
Speaker 1: people like you around, Drew to help people remind people

1497
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:25,439
Speaker 1: of that team that we had back then. Yeah, but

1498
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: it is special. I think when I was there, my

1499
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:30,760
Speaker 1: you know, that first year that I was there. What

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people don't know is that, you know,

1501
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 1: it didn't start off that smoothly. And this is part

1502
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,120
Speaker 1: of the story that I tell a lot of people,

1503
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: is that, you know, I went to Houston believing that

1504
01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 1: I really had an opportunity to help this team and

1505
01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,760
Speaker 1: to play on an offense and have a chance to

1506
01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: help out in the receiving room. And I ended up

1507
01:20:49,479 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: not even dressing for the first two weeks of that season,

1508
01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,519
Speaker 1: so I barely made the team. But they had a

1509
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:58,600
Speaker 1: starting kickoff return already and Jerome Mathis, who was a

1510
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: pro bowler I believe, previous pro bowler, and the receiving

1511
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:05,800
Speaker 1: core was pretty well stacked, and with me not being

1512
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 1: able to be a returner, I was kind of left

1513
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: on the outskirts at that point. So once again having

1514
01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: to mentally and spiritually kind of get myself under control

1515
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,920
Speaker 1: to say, hey, how can I still go out here.

1516
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:21,000
Speaker 1: I still got to practice. I still got to prepare

1517
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 1: weekend and week out. Don't know when there's going to

1518
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:26,600
Speaker 1: be injuries. I've got to prepare myself for when that

1519
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,920
Speaker 1: call does come that I'm ready. And so to really

1520
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 1: be able to turn that around, that helped me not

1521
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: only be prepared for my opportunity, but it also helped

1522
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 1: me with a lot of the younger guys where I

1523
01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: was trying to give all I could at that point,

1524
01:21:40,040 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 1: I think five years, six years of experience share that

1525
01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,519
Speaker 1: with a lot of the younger players, and all that

1526
01:21:45,800 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: did was really prepare me for my opportunity. When Andre

1527
01:21:49,160 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: ended up going down I think in a Carolina game,

1528
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: hurt his ankle and he was out for a few weeks,

1529
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:56,839
Speaker 1: that gave me a chance to play. And then Jacobe

1530
01:21:56,960 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 1: Jones went down with a shoulder injury against the Colts,

1531
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,559
Speaker 1: and that gave me an opportunity where it's like, all right,

1532
01:22:02,720 --> 01:22:05,519
Speaker 1: we're down to receivers, you gotta play me now. But

1533
01:22:05,640 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: I have to be ready for those opportunities, and so

1534
01:22:08,439 --> 01:22:10,120
Speaker 1: to be able to go out there and prove to

1535
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:12,840
Speaker 1: the coaching staff and to all of those players that year,

1536
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,320
Speaker 1: that I was someone that you know, could be trusted

1537
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: and could make some big plays. I didn't let that

1538
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 1: opportunity go to waste, and it was great to see

1539
01:22:20,360 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: how that team came together and how we were trying

1540
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: to really change the culture of the Texans around. Yeah,

1541
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 1: he had some some cool names. You just brought up.

1542
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: Andre Jacobe, Kevin Walter was in that wide receiver group.

1543
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:34,160
Speaker 1: David Anderson played there a little bit. I'm leaving out

1544
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 1: names obviously, but who do you keep up with from

1545
01:22:36,520 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: those days these days? What Texans teammates are you still

1546
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:44,240
Speaker 1: in touch with and friends with and whatnot? Yeah, you know,

1547
01:22:44,360 --> 01:22:47,800
Speaker 1: every now and then I'm texting Andre because obviously he's

1548
01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: getting all of these awards that are fourth come in

1549
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 1: and I know that Golden Jacket is going to be

1550
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 1: coming up for him pretty soon, get the Keys to

1551
01:22:57,280 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 1: the City and Houston everything else. That great guy. Obviously,

1552
01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:03,639
Speaker 1: I just send him text every now and then. When

1553
01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:06,040
Speaker 1: we first got out, I had David Anderson come to

1554
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,080
Speaker 1: an event when I was down in South Carolina. Kevin

1555
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: Bentley a guy on defense. I've talked to him a

1556
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 1: bunch lately, really sharp guy. What's he's we need to

1557
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 1: get him? On this podcast. What's he doing these days?

1558
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: I want to say he's still in Atlanta right now.

1559
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 1: I mean he's done a lot of school and he's

1560
01:23:23,280 --> 01:23:25,759
Speaker 1: got his MBA. He might be going back for his doctor.

1561
01:23:25,880 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: It's he's been doing the school thing. But he's also

1562
01:23:28,760 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if he's an entrepreneur or if he's

1563
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 1: working with some other firms, but he's just he's doing

1564
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:36,720
Speaker 1: a lot of He's a mover and shaker and always was,

1565
01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:40,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't he. Yeah, absolutely, you know everybody else. I think

1566
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,840
Speaker 1: it's with social media mostly that you know, you stay

1567
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 1: in contact with people you know. Once again, like I

1568
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:48,800
Speaker 1: see Jacobe on there a lot, you know, I'll comment

1569
01:23:48,880 --> 01:23:52,200
Speaker 1: on his stuff. Bonta Leach is doing amazing things in

1570
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,760
Speaker 1: his community and it's really great. School board. Yeah, we

1571
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,680
Speaker 1: just had him on this podcast a couple of weeks ago.

1572
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 1: Bonta Leach school board member. Come a long way from

1573
01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,479
Speaker 1: being a fullback and being the guy on the mic

1574
01:24:03,840 --> 01:24:07,479
Speaker 1: on the airplane after road games. Right absolutely, Yeah. He

1575
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: was my buddy on the plane too that I sat

1576
01:24:10,240 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: next to a right, Yeah, yeah, So it was always

1577
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: fun times. He spent three years in Houston as a

1578
01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,559
Speaker 1: wide receiver in return man from two thousand and seven

1579
01:24:19,760 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: through two thousand and nine. Here's more from our conversation

1580
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: with Andre Davis. Andre, what's next for you? Man? What's

1581
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,799
Speaker 1: You've got the four children? What's the oldest, what's the youngest,

1582
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:30,560
Speaker 1: Because I know I'm asked about who you keep in

1583
01:24:30,640 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 1: touch with, like that's who you're keeping in touch with

1584
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: on a day to day basis is your kids? How

1585
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,559
Speaker 1: old is the oldest, held's the youngest? Yeah, I've got

1586
01:24:37,640 --> 01:24:41,840
Speaker 1: two boys and two girls. My boy Dalen is thirteen,

1587
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:47,439
Speaker 1: Leila is eight, and Noel is six. Oh that's a

1588
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 1: good good span there. Yeah, that's fun. So sports and

1589
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: all sorts of extracurriculars and schools that you as an

1590
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 1: uber drive being an uber driver as you say, absolutely,

1591
01:24:56,840 --> 01:24:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean me and my wife we use Google Calendar.

1592
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:01,840
Speaker 1: It's like it's not on the calendar. It doesn't exist

1593
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: like it has. It has to be scheduled to get

1594
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 1: those sort of things done. But you know, like I

1595
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,800
Speaker 1: said earlier, it's such a blessing to be able to

1596
01:25:11,439 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: be at home with the kids, to be able to

1597
01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,560
Speaker 1: see them at this season of life that they're in,

1598
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 1: you know, two in middle school too. In elementary school

1599
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 1: right now, which I think will be this is our

1600
01:25:22,000 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: only year that we'll have to only deal with two schools.

1601
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,439
Speaker 1: You know, after this year, we're gonna have high school,

1602
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 1: middle and elementary, and it'll be that way for the

1603
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:31,400
Speaker 1: rest of our time that will have three schools. So

1604
01:25:32,640 --> 01:25:34,560
Speaker 1: I'm very grateful for that, and I try not to

1605
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 1: take this time for granted. A lot of other mentors

1606
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,360
Speaker 1: that I have and other people that I've spoke to

1607
01:25:40,479 --> 01:25:43,439
Speaker 1: who have kids who have grown up, they say, don't

1608
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:46,839
Speaker 1: try to rush through these seasons. You know, these seasons

1609
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 1: of life is for a limited time and then they're

1610
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:51,559
Speaker 1: through it and they're on and they're going to get

1611
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,519
Speaker 1: older and more independent, and so just try to enjoy

1612
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,880
Speaker 1: each of these moments and get the most who can

1613
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,160
Speaker 1: out of it. So I'm trying to do that, not

1614
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:02,080
Speaker 1: only for our family, before our extended family as well.

1615
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:04,519
Speaker 1: So you've also you've had a chance to take some

1616
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:09,680
Speaker 1: trips abroad, and these sound like pretty fascinating ventures. What's

1617
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: been the genesis of that? How did that get going? Yeah?

1618
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 1: When I first retired, we moved to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina,

1619
01:26:17,280 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: and my financial advisor, his wife was on the board

1620
01:26:20,680 --> 01:26:24,200
Speaker 1: of an organization called African New Life Ministries, and this

1621
01:26:24,439 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: organization feeds, closes and educates. Now we're over ten thousand

1622
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 1: children in Rwanda. We helped them with educational sponsorships, we

1623
01:26:36,120 --> 01:26:39,479
Speaker 1: helped with health management. We were raising money back in

1624
01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine to build a twelve bedroom clinic,

1625
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:46,479
Speaker 1: and I believe like two years ago we just opened

1626
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,920
Speaker 1: up the second largest private hospital in the country of Rwanda.

1627
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:54,599
Speaker 1: And it's been one of those things that it wasn't

1628
01:26:54,720 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: something that was ever on my mind originally, but it's

1629
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: amazing that through friendships, through relationships, you find out about

1630
01:27:03,240 --> 01:27:05,800
Speaker 1: certain things and there's certain things that will pull on

1631
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:09,920
Speaker 1: your heart. And for me, it was the how everything

1632
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,519
Speaker 1: kind of came together with faith, with my platform of football,

1633
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:16,320
Speaker 1: with service of wanting to be able to give back

1634
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:19,400
Speaker 1: from the things that I learned from Virginia Tech of Service,

1635
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:22,840
Speaker 1: and this just seemed like the perfect opportunity to be

1636
01:27:22,880 --> 01:27:25,560
Speaker 1: able to give back. So two thousand and nine was

1637
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:29,519
Speaker 1: I believe my first trip. Twenty eleven was my first

1638
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:34,160
Speaker 1: trip to Rwanda, and since then I've been there five times.

1639
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,480
Speaker 1: Two years ago, I just led my church here in Delaware.

1640
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:43,680
Speaker 1: We brought twenty people with us to Rwanda, to be

1641
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:46,679
Speaker 1: able to see everything that they're about, what the mission

1642
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,040
Speaker 1: is about, to see the schools that are open there,

1643
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: and it's just been an amazing thing to be able

1644
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:55,639
Speaker 1: to give back to those in need, to those who

1645
01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,720
Speaker 1: you know are are truly in extreme poverty, but yet

1646
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:02,640
Speaker 1: to see how much hope that can be given to

1647
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:07,080
Speaker 1: them when you share with them through acts of compassion,

1648
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 1: that you're able to really open up their hearts. And

1649
01:28:10,840 --> 01:28:12,679
Speaker 1: that gives us an opportunity to be able to share

1650
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:15,599
Speaker 1: our faith with them in those times. So it's an

1651
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:20,439
Speaker 1: absolutely amazing organization that gives me even more purpose in

1652
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: each and every day. Yeah, and I don't know if

1653
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,800
Speaker 1: your your children have gotten to go with you or not,

1654
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,439
Speaker 1: but just them hearing about that, knowing that you're gone,

1655
01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,040
Speaker 1: well why is why is Dad gone? And hearing why

1656
01:28:30,120 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: you're there? I mean, that's that's got to be a

1657
01:28:31,880 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: heck of of a great lesson for them, you know,

1658
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:38,880
Speaker 1: a story for them to know about. Right. Absolutely two

1659
01:28:38,960 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: years ago when we went with my church, we brought

1660
01:28:41,400 --> 01:28:44,960
Speaker 1: our eldest with us and so Dalen got a chance

1661
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: to go experience it. Um, it's amazing how sport once

1662
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:53,719
Speaker 1: again is the great unifier. We did a vacation Bible

1663
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,360
Speaker 1: school there where we were we were going through health talks.

1664
01:28:56,720 --> 01:28:59,960
Speaker 1: We had like a testimony station, and then we had

1665
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: a kind of a kid's station in the afternoon, and

1666
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:07,160
Speaker 1: my son once again speaks doesn't speak the native language there,

1667
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: which is Kenyarwandon doesn't speak the language, but just got

1668
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,800
Speaker 1: the kids together in a circle. I think he brought

1669
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,839
Speaker 1: a football with them, throwing it around, throwing a frisbee

1670
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:18,200
Speaker 1: with them, and he was by himself, like there were

1671
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,600
Speaker 1: no other adults with him. But to see how he

1672
01:29:20,760 --> 01:29:23,040
Speaker 1: was able to kind of take that on and to

1673
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:25,679
Speaker 1: be able to unify and find a way to lead

1674
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: in that sense. I mean, it's a very proud moment

1675
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:32,439
Speaker 1: when you see that, but even more proud when he

1676
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,920
Speaker 1: comes home and he tells his cousins and his brother

1677
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:39,320
Speaker 1: and his school of the experience and the opportunity that

1678
01:29:39,400 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: he had. That's what we want to really be able

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