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Speaker 1: being back in the football mix. And we're gonna do
Speaker 1: We're gonna do the preview the same way we always
Speaker 1: do smallest to biggest spreads.
Speaker 3: And we start with a team.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys know, the New York
Speaker 2: Jets are all fixed now, guys.
Speaker 3: Everything is great.
Speaker 2: They're taking that greatness on the road to go up
Speaker 2: against the Arizona Cardinals, who greg are on a three
Speaker 2: game winning streak with Jonathan Gannon's defense giving up a
Speaker 2: top five EPA per drop back despite having a sack
Speaker 2: by committee approach?
Speaker 3: Do they get it done against the Jets? Wow?
Speaker 1: This is such a fun late afternoon game, really in
Speaker 1: a window where there aren't, you know, great options, This
Speaker 1: to me is really fascinating to me. And yeah, can
Speaker 1: Nick Rollis in this defense turn into like a steady
Speaker 1: defense that at least isn't giving up big plays and
Speaker 1: gives problems to a Jets offense which got going finally
Speaker 1: in the second half of that Thursday night game.
Speaker 4: They get the extra rest here.
Speaker 1: But I kind of look at it the other way
Speaker 1: around and think about this Cardinals offense because that's how
Speaker 1: if they're gonna make the playoffs this year, it's gonna
Speaker 1: because their offense, yeap is next level And I love
Speaker 1: Steve how Kyler Murray has quietly transformed a little bit
Speaker 1: who he is. Not a lot of negative plays like
Speaker 1: last week, not flashy. It was one of the first
Speaker 1: Cardinals wins I can remember where Kyler didn't do much.
Speaker 1: But that's almost a good sign if you look at
Speaker 1: his numbers, very few negative plays. He's in the top
Speaker 1: ten in the league in terms of pressure to sack ratio,
Speaker 1: so he's avoiding sacks. He's in the top ten of
Speaker 1: the league in terms of turnover worthy play percentage, so
Speaker 1: he's not making mistakes. He's not fumbling them ball, he's
Speaker 1: not throwing picks. And of course you get the spectacular
Speaker 1: plays sometimes maybe you don't need them all against the Jets,
Speaker 1: as long as you don't make big mistakes.
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the first time probably in his career,
Speaker 5: you know, when he's healthy where he hasn't had to
Speaker 5: do as much. He's still the bearer of the cross,
Speaker 5: so to speak. But he's got some weapons. James Connor
Speaker 5: is a stud I want to ask both of you guys,
Speaker 5: just though, because to me, this is kind of a okay,
Speaker 5: make us believe something can happen game? Is it more
Speaker 5: so for the Jets? Or for the Cardinals, like make
Speaker 5: me a believer for type game Jets.
Speaker 3: It's still the.
Speaker 2: Jets for me. I've seen this Cardinalsteon win three three
Speaker 2: games a round. I think they beat close games.
Speaker 1: But I kind of feel like I know who they are,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that they're going to win the
Speaker 1: division or not, but they're going to be in the
Speaker 1: mix and they present a lot of problems for you.
Speaker 4: I still don't know who the Jets are.
Speaker 3: So but if the Jets lose this then okay, it's
Speaker 3: it's a rap. Yes, you know, the.
Speaker 5: The owner can go back to England and you know,
Speaker 5: the rest of the team can can do whatever. They
Speaker 5: can figure it out. But if they win this game,
Speaker 5: it could get very interesting. I mean, I I love
Speaker 5: it's only a one point difference here because I think
Speaker 5: it's a toss up type of game. I you know,
Speaker 5: I look at the Jets defense. Kyler's a different guy
Speaker 5: than they've played, and he's so good. You know how
Speaker 5: much I love Kyler Murray and the way that he plays.
Speaker 5: It's it's kind of like, if the Cardinals win this game,
Speaker 5: I'm like you, I'm kind of like, Okay, they're gonna
Speaker 5: be a pain. They're gonna be a tough out, but
Speaker 5: if they win this game, it's kind of like the
Speaker 5: old Leonardo Dicaprian Jango. Now, sir, you have my attention.
Speaker 5: I knew you like that, but no, I love it
Speaker 5: thematic on the day. So I had to go look
Speaker 5: up who leads the Cardinals in sacks? Do you guys know?
Speaker 2: No, Dennis Gardexti. It's Dante Stills. He's got three and
Speaker 2: a half sacks. Zavan Collins has three. We at least
Speaker 2: know who he is. Chris Chris Barnes k r yass
Speaker 2: Barnes has two sacks. I normally when there's a game
Speaker 2: coming up against Aaron Rodgers and the Jets, I try
Speaker 2: to key on like this one in particular edge rusher,
Speaker 2: Like where do the Jets need to focus? I don't
Speaker 2: know what they do here with this this kind of
Speaker 2: sack by committee approach. And then over on the other side,
Speaker 2: the Jets too much to their pleasure right this season,
Speaker 2: have forced the second most pass attempts on the run
Speaker 2: this season. They other quarterbacks scramble on eighteen point seven
Speaker 2: percent of plays.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: Problem now is it's Kyler m You're right, So that's
Speaker 2: something you don't want.
Speaker 4: To do well.
Speaker 1: That was one of my takeaways from that Thursday night game.
Speaker 1: Could is the Jets pass rush back Hassan Reddick had
Speaker 1: a nice game. Everyone has a nice game against the Texans,
Speaker 1: but they were getting pressure at like every position. Will
Speaker 1: McDonald a nice game. Quinn Williams has played his two
Speaker 1: best games of the season back to back weeks, and
Speaker 1: that's actually a strength for the Cardinals. Their offensive lines
Speaker 1: played pretty well this year. Like to me, when it's
Speaker 1: the Jets having the ball, though, that's a game plan
Speaker 1: matchup because the Cardinals don't have the players ultimately, but
Speaker 1: sometimes they can confuse the opposition.
Speaker 4: Can they confuse you.
Speaker 1: Know, Aaron Rodgers and you know whoever Todd downing and
Speaker 1: calling the plays?
Speaker 4: Maybe? Maybe not.
Speaker 1: They're just such an up and down team. I think
Speaker 1: we're going to see some points in this game. I
Speaker 1: actually think both offenses end up winning.
Speaker 5: I agree, And by that, you go to the Cardinals pass.
Speaker 5: You know that the pass rush. They're not going to
Speaker 5: confuse Aaron Rodgers. No one's going to confuse him. They
Speaker 5: can confuse that offensive line. They can do some things
Speaker 5: because okay, who do we scheme against? Where do we
Speaker 5: shift the doubles in certain situations. We don't know, and
Speaker 5: we know Johnathan Ganton is very creative in generating pressures.
Speaker 3: I think this is gonna be a fantastic game.
Speaker 1: And Rogers like spelled out looking at his schedule talking
Speaker 1: to Al and Kirk kurb Street like going through all
Speaker 1: the games that they could win, and that's all true.
Speaker 1: But even if they won this game and it's close
Speaker 1: in their four and six, it's like, that's a pretty
Speaker 1: slim margin for and I look at all these games,
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, you can win them all, but you
Speaker 1: can lose them all. There's no there's no game where
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, the Jets are the way better team.
Speaker 4: So TBD on them getting off fraud Watch.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they've in fact, they're gonna have to do something.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to invent a term right to come
Speaker 2: back from fraud Watch, because like it was, it wasn't
Speaker 2: just necessarily a watch. It was confirmed, like they fired
Speaker 2: their coach, they had to make a huge trade to
Speaker 2: get Davonte Adams to change the circumstance, and then they're
Speaker 2: able to slide past this Texans team that's going in
Speaker 2: the wrong direction. On Halloween Night where they needed that
Speaker 2: touchdown to DeVante. That was that was to put the game.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like they were running away. And I know
Speaker 2: that malcol Corley had the mistake, but there's plenty of
Speaker 2: teams all across the league, Seattle, uh, Miami, all these
Speaker 2: teams that had game changing mistakes. The Jets survived that
Speaker 2: that won against the Texans, but you know they're still
Speaker 2: they're not all.
Speaker 3: Watch I believe. I believe now that the possible alert possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now that the offense is back enough, I'm sick
Speaker 1: of trying to make the decision on my fantasy team
Speaker 1: which to start DeVante or Garrett Wilson. I've been just
Speaker 1: trying to like, guess, I'm just gonna start them both.
Speaker 1: I believe that they'll have a good enough game here
Speaker 1: against the Cardiffs.
Speaker 5: Offensively, I'm just saying, I'm just guessing your third is
Speaker 5: not that great.
Speaker 2: Okay, it feels like a lot of Jets. The Miami
Speaker 2: Dolphins gonna have to get on the jet to fly
Speaker 2: across the country after flying up north to upstate New York.
Speaker 2: They are two and a half point underdogs against the
Speaker 2: Los Angeles Rams. The Dolphins coming off their best game
Speaker 2: offensively this season, all the way to La operational Rams
Speaker 2: team Steve, where they're on a three game win streak,
Speaker 2: two winnable games, coming up unbeaten since the buye reminding
Speaker 2: me of the twenty twenty three save right that went
Speaker 2: on the by and then went on a huge run
Speaker 2: on the way to the playoffs.
Speaker 5: And they did that, we know, when they got you know,
Speaker 5: heavy on the run game when they did play some
Speaker 5: power football.
Speaker 3: I'm almost surprised that the margin zones two and a half.
Speaker 5: I mean, I know, Miami's offense is playing well and
Speaker 5: it's gonna be a exciting game Monday nighter, but the
Speaker 5: Dolphins defense has not done much. You know, Los Angeles
Speaker 5: is getting Pooka back. The explosive playability that we've seen
Speaker 5: out of this Rams offense is something that's all right.
Speaker 5: I mean, Stafford is coming in and just drilling the
Speaker 5: ball downfield.
Speaker 3: Now that's not to.
Speaker 5: Say that the Rams defense is gonna be that great.
Speaker 3: They're not.
Speaker 5: You know, they're not a fast secondary. So this is
Speaker 5: where Waddle and Tyreek Kill and these guys can get
Speaker 5: after him. But I'm gonna say it once again, those
Speaker 5: young dudes on the de front, Jared Versus and the
Speaker 5: rookie and Braden Fisk.
Speaker 3: Are real dudes. They are real guys.
Speaker 5: They are gonna be in two his grill, so it's
Speaker 5: gonna be that quick passing game. I just think the
Speaker 5: Rams they're kind of on a groove. And I think
Speaker 5: with Puoka coming back after being ejected and being embarrassed
Speaker 5: by that, I think he's gonna have a big.
Speaker 1: Game, you know what. I hope you're right on Puoka.
Speaker 1: I didn't think he looked great last week when he
Speaker 1: was out there. I asked around a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think that knee injury that he suffered in practice is
Speaker 1: concerning because that Thursday night game he came back for
Speaker 1: and he that was the full Puka And if you
Speaker 1: watch last week's game, he and Stafford weren't exactly on
Speaker 1: the same page and he maybe wasn't moving as well.
Speaker 1: So they're not the same team offensively. But I think
Speaker 1: they have more going on overall in terms of their
Speaker 1: balance between the defense and the offense than the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: who actually epa per play. For what it's worth, I
Speaker 1: looked this up for a different team we'll talk about later,
Speaker 1: but since Week six, EPA per play. Their defense is
Speaker 1: third in the NFL the Los Angeles Rams. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: pretty impressive, and so it's a front that can get
Speaker 1: after the problem for them is Tua gets rid of
Speaker 1: the ball so quickly. It's been even quicker the last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks than usual. The timing has been fantastic.
Speaker 1: He hasn't really looked like he missed a minute. They
Speaker 1: haven't been going down the field as much as kind
Speaker 1: of the old school Dolphins, but they got some intermediate
Speaker 1: routes into the mix against the Bills and it was
Speaker 1: extremely effective and accurate. So there's not a lot of
Speaker 1: reason for me to think that this Rams defense is
Speaker 1: going to slow down that running game, which is really good,
Speaker 1: or to being on time with this throws.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if not for the anomaly that's Jared goff In
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. The past two weeks, Tuas had an
Speaker 2: eighty point three completion percentage.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: It trails only Golf in this incredible run that he's
Speaker 2: on by a full percentage point, which is like, you
Speaker 2: just got to kind of throw that one out there.
Speaker 2: Who is playing pretty well. Jared Verse leading all rookies
Speaker 2: with thirty nine quarterback pressure's good man three.
Speaker 3: And a half secks.
Speaker 2: It's but I can't go away, and I know that
Speaker 2: we're gonna have to wait and see how healthy Pukakua is.
Speaker 2: But when Cooper cup is back on the Matthew Stafford
Speaker 2: just looks different. Like we had some questionable throws during
Speaker 2: that No Cup era and all those just seemed to
Speaker 2: go away.
Speaker 3: Against the Seattle Seahawks, it was just.
Speaker 2: Like, oh, Matthew Stafford's back, and I think number ten
Speaker 2: has a whole lot.
Speaker 3: To do with that. I mean, and then Robinson stepping
Speaker 3: up like okay.
Speaker 4: Right, I mean he suddenly coke.
Speaker 1: Cooper Cupp being back just gives DeMarcus Robinson superhuman powers,
Speaker 1: like he's made crazy catch in the last two weeks.
Speaker 3: But I mean that says something.
Speaker 5: I mean, when you know, when I'm in a room
Speaker 5: with you guys, it's high IQ, I've got to I
Speaker 5: know I've got a level up, right, And that's what
Speaker 5: Robinson is doing. So this is this is going to
Speaker 5: be to me. It could end up being the game
Speaker 5: of the weekend with in terms of excitement and points
Speaker 5: and things like that.
Speaker 1: I want to ask you a tough question though, So
Speaker 1: in this scenario. If if Patrick and I are helping
Speaker 1: to raise your game, we're the Cooper Cup and Pooka
Speaker 1: and Akua.
Speaker 3: I'm the DeMarcus Robinson.
Speaker 1: Like, so, who's the Jordan Whittington and too to at Well,
Speaker 1: that's not really raising your game quite as much.
Speaker 3: See, no way you did? I know he see you're
Speaker 3: not gonnadmit it. But there's a name in there, you know.
Speaker 3: Every time I hear it, just like.
Speaker 1: I don't know who you eat it, but I like that.
Speaker 3: That's good.
Speaker 4: People are gonna have to deep.
Speaker 2: Deep, all right, folks, Folks digging through the roster right now,
Speaker 2: going to a NFL networkall Football Reference dot Com and
Speaker 2: sorting by lose shares as we get away from the
Speaker 2: Monday night game and go to a game.
Speaker 3: That we did not know was going to be this
Speaker 3: good several weeks ago.
Speaker 2: It is the Pittsburgh Steelers at the Washington Commanders, who
Speaker 2: were two and a half point favorites against the team
Speaker 2: that could be first place in the AFC north over
Speaker 2: under forty five and a half. Ian Eagle Charles Davis
Speaker 2: and Evan Washburn on the call, Greg, we have seen
Speaker 2: Jaden Daniels win a lot of different ways. What would
Speaker 2: a Commanders win look like against this Pittsburgh Steelers defense.
Speaker 1: I think it would look like their offensive line holding
Speaker 1: up in what's going to be their toughest test yet
Speaker 1: yes season. If you look at what they do so,
Speaker 1: I think they've overachieved considering the talent that they have.
Speaker 1: We thought that was gonna be one of the worst
Speaker 1: offensive lines in the league. I think they've done a
Speaker 1: great job coaching it up. I think the young players
Speaker 1: like Brandon Coleman have played well. The free agent signings
Speaker 1: like Tyler Biattish have played well, but the Steelers are
Speaker 1: a little different, and they're coming off of a bye week.
Speaker 1: TJ Watt at times has been almost like a little
Speaker 1: tired this season at the end of games.
Speaker 4: He's fresh right now. You add Preston Smith to the mix.
Speaker 1: They're deep, and if you can get Jayden and Daniel's time,
Speaker 1: we already know what's gonna happen. He'll dice him up.
Speaker 1: There's no question. If he gets time and protection and
Speaker 1: they blockwell in this game. I don't care what the
Speaker 1: Steelers defensive ranking is. They're gonna put up thirty, but
Speaker 1: I don't know if I don't know if I quite
Speaker 1: believe in the commander's front to pass this test.
Speaker 4: They got.
Speaker 1: They got to just keep passing these tests as they go,
Speaker 1: and this is the biggest one yet.
Speaker 5: And this is what we're gonna see. We're watching video
Speaker 5: right now of Jayde Daniels breaking pressure. H He's a guy,
Speaker 5: He's slippery. I mean, he with the Harrison's you know,
Speaker 5: to Lamar. He's not Lamar yet, but he's got that
Speaker 5: evasiveness and he's got the ability to make the decisions
Speaker 5: on the move.
Speaker 3: Steelers haven't faced, you know, a slippery quarterback like him.
Speaker 5: I mean, but you know, again, Washington, you could say
Speaker 5: they do they have a quality win you know, No,
Speaker 5: I mean in terms of like a stellar opponent victory
Speaker 5: who they faced. So both of these teams you can
Speaker 5: kind of say that, we know, the Steelers beat the
Speaker 5: Chargers early in the season, they beat the Falcons earlier
Speaker 5: in the season. But since both these teams like this
Speaker 5: is kind of a okay, who are we? We know
Speaker 5: the Steelers' identity. Washington's a fun team. We don't know
Speaker 5: their identity yet. But I think the fact that I'm
Speaker 5: going out getting Marshawn Lattimore, who I think will play
Speaker 5: in spots. He's somebody who can travel with the receiver,
Speaker 5: very physical tackler. He's not gonna know the defense enough
Speaker 5: to play.
Speaker 1: We'll see if he has the DeVante Adams magical hamstring healing,
Speaker 1: because he did have an injury before this.
Speaker 5: He did, he did, and I actually spoke with someone there.
Speaker 5: I said, they have to figure it out. So this
Speaker 5: seems like it's it's pretty legit unless mister Miagi comes in,
Speaker 5: you know there gives some touch. But I think this
Speaker 5: is gonna be a really fun game as well. I
Speaker 5: actually like Washington in this game. I think this is
Speaker 5: the game. Russ has been like so ridiculous the past
Speaker 5: couple of games. Take especially throwing the ball downfield, and
Speaker 5: this is a team to do it against that.
Speaker 3: It's almost like he's due to put a pop fly
Speaker 3: up there. I don't know.
Speaker 5: He doesn't turn the ball over often, but man, he's
Speaker 5: just been like like if he keeps it up, playing
Speaker 5: like he's played those last two or three games all
Speaker 5: right now, the Steelers, the Steelers, everybody.
Speaker 2: It's it's gonna be, I think, an opportunity to find
Speaker 2: out what things are like for because the season started
Speaker 2: in Sandra's still Saint justus.
Speaker 3: It was down the sideline over and over again.
Speaker 2: In the past few weeks that's gone away and Sandrusel's
Speaker 2: avoided a highlight until out of nowhere Danny Dimes just
Speaker 2: runs over not just him, but his teammate as well
Speaker 2: and collects an angry run there. But I think because
Speaker 2: both teams players, I think in spots of need. The
Speaker 2: Steelers for eight months now have been trying to get
Speaker 2: a wide receiver.
Speaker 5: Guys.
Speaker 2: They go get Mike Williams, and so now there's there's
Speaker 2: somebody on the opposite side of the field. And I
Speaker 2: know the memes about Russ ignoring the middle of the field, Well,
Speaker 2: if you've got two big targets on the outside, you
Speaker 2: could kind of do that as well.
Speaker 3: As the run game is going right now.
Speaker 2: And then on the other side, this is the number
Speaker 2: three quarterback scrambled team in the NFL, led by Jayden Daniels,
Speaker 2: but it's the number one defense against stopping the quarterback.
Speaker 2: Round they go and get PQ. They draft Wilson in
Speaker 2: the line. There's so much speed on the edges, and
Speaker 2: then you add in Watton Highsmith there. I think on
Speaker 2: the edges, this isn't going to be the mismatch that
Speaker 2: the Commanders have been able to feast on all year.
Speaker 1: Fun game that Charles Davis our friend, yess, I like
Speaker 1: him getting such an awesome game this week. I think
Speaker 1: Russ being as good as he was in that game
Speaker 1: against the Giants before the bye, what was one of
Speaker 1: the moment to the season.
Speaker 4: You're like, Wow, if they can.
Speaker 1: Really revive Russ his career in a consistent, meaningful way,
Speaker 1: this team is going to be different. I feel like
Speaker 1: I need to see more. I think got a little
Speaker 1: too much love for an up and down first game back,
Speaker 1: but then he got into the flow and he was
Speaker 1: fantastic in that second performance. And to give Arthur Smith
Speaker 1: some credit, he's not doing as much of the outside
Speaker 1: Zono's just like in the past, it's all outside zone,
Speaker 1: all outside zone.
Speaker 4: It wasn't really working all the time.
Speaker 1: They're still doing that, but they're mixing up the running
Speaker 1: game and then when you see younger guys develop. I
Speaker 1: think that's a really strong point to the coaching staff.
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin, we weren't sure what he was gonna be
Speaker 1: at the NFL level. Now he's a great third fourth
Speaker 1: guy as like an extra weapon, and he's maybe in
Speaker 1: a spot where he doesn't have to be the outside
Speaker 1: guy with Mike Williams there, that's great. Darnaut Washington's a
Speaker 1: valuable player for them, Like he's blocking well, I mean,
Speaker 1: he's another offensive lineman. Beeves, maybe he's making plays and
Speaker 1: Friar Moot's a solid tenant.
Speaker 4: So that to me is coaching. First.
Speaker 1: You're in this system that they're just steadily kind of
Speaker 1: building up what this offense can be, and I think
Speaker 1: it'll be more problems to your point about Washington not
Speaker 1: facing many great offenses lately, I mean, they've done pretty
Speaker 1: well in some spots. Cincinnati they were horrible, but since then,
Speaker 1: you know, Arizona everything. I'm really curious to see how
Speaker 1: they do because I think offensively, if the Steelers can
Speaker 1: be a top twelve type of offense and watch out,
Speaker 1: they're a Super Bowl contender.
Speaker 5: What's interesting to see if Pittsburgh canna be able to
Speaker 5: keep hammering the ball like they have been because those
Speaker 5: two linebackers are washing, If Bobby Wagner is still dealing
Speaker 5: and Frankie Louvu, I mean, we can't talk. We continue
Speaker 5: to talk about how dynamic of a player he has been.
Speaker 5: It's almost like when rokwand Smith went to Baltimore and
Speaker 5: Patrick Queen was there.
Speaker 3: How that made Patrick Queen take off.
Speaker 5: Getting Louvu and Bobby Wagner feeding off each other like that,
Speaker 5: they have been dynamic.
Speaker 3: I think that's going to cause some issues.
Speaker 1: I'm contractually obligated to bring up every time Frankie Louvu.
Speaker 4: I'm sure name comes up.
Speaker 1: Jordan rodriege Yes of the Athletic put him on our
Speaker 1: preseason All Pro team, to the consternation of myself and
Speaker 1: many fans who thought that was nice, little too rich,
Speaker 1: and she saw it coming there. One last thing on
Speaker 1: this game, I do think the Steelers cornerbacks Dante Jackson
Speaker 1: and Joey Porter Junior are a little attackable here. Porter
Speaker 1: makes great plays, but he also is a gambler. He's
Speaker 1: out of position sometimes. Donnie Jackson has just been struggling.
Speaker 1: So that's something I think the opponent's they faced haven't
Speaker 1: really taken advantage of. So watch out for Scary Terry
Speaker 1: and Noah Brown's had some nice moments. I think that
Speaker 1: if Washington wins, I think you could see some deep
Speaker 1: shots back and forth, vertical down the field, so much.
Speaker 2: To look forward to in that game, a couple of
Speaker 2: good teams. From there, we go to a team that's
Speaker 2: kind of on the other direction. But then one of
Speaker 2: Greg's Super Bowl picks the Buffalo Bills three and a
Speaker 2: half point favorites at Indianapolis, who start Joe Flacco to.
Speaker 3: Results.
Speaker 2: We'll call them Steve Andrew Catalon See Barber and Jason
Speaker 2: mccordy again, three and a half point favorites. The over
Speaker 2: under is forty seven. What more can the Colts do
Speaker 2: to have success, especially against the very good Buffalo.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I see this number three and a half and
Speaker 5: it makes me think the odds makers think either Buffalo
Speaker 5: is going to play down or Indianapolis is going to
Speaker 5: have a spike, because offensively they were so bad.
Speaker 3: I mean defensively Indianapolis.
Speaker 5: I mean they got dudes, I mean DeForest Buckter and
Speaker 5: those guys up front. They look good still now that
Speaker 5: he's back. It's helped out Quity Pay, It's helped out
Speaker 5: some of these other guys, you know, Kennymore on the
Speaker 5: back end in the slot, but they have not faced
Speaker 5: you know, a scrambler like Josh Allen.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I think if Buffalo doesn't play down that four seems
Speaker 5: like a real tight number.
Speaker 3: I like Buffalo to go to Indianapolis.
Speaker 5: I hope people think again the Colts are going to
Speaker 5: give him a tough shot, and they might, but at
Speaker 5: some point I think the explosive players for the Bills
Speaker 5: show up. I think there's a question like Keyon Coleman's
Speaker 5: availability for the Bills. But I still think they's got
Speaker 5: too many weapons, and you know they may not run
Speaker 5: the ball, but I just think Josh Allen's scramming ability
Speaker 5: is gonna be too much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Kean Coleman is weak to weak, and Sean McDermott
Speaker 1: indicated it could be a while for.
Speaker 4: Ke On Coleman.
Speaker 1: I think he was getting a second opinion, which sounds
Speaker 1: like they're hoping for a better Mark Cooper.
Speaker 3: He's he's touching, touching go. It's risks for both of them,
Speaker 3: oddly enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that that's a concern, and and that might
Speaker 1: inform that that might be Remember another one is I
Speaker 1: think the Colts have played a one score game in
Speaker 1: every game this season against every opponent. So they are
Speaker 1: they are the middle of the NFL. They are they
Speaker 1: are kind of the the Dalton scale of an NFL
Speaker 1: team where it's just like you can measure yourself if
Speaker 1: you're a bobber below the Colts. And it's always hard
Speaker 1: to figure out who Patrick roots for Steve, but it's
Speaker 1: not hard to figure out who he's rooting against. He's
Speaker 1: rooted against the Colts as long as Joe Flaco's starting.
Speaker 2: Why right, I wouldn't like the decision. I would like
Speaker 2: to see something else. It didn't nothing, nothing about that
Speaker 2: game in prime time said to me that this is
Speaker 2: the right decision. They had to get Joe Flacco in
Speaker 2: there so that they could have a chance to win
Speaker 2: this season.
Speaker 3: That wasn't That wasn't my takeaway. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because I think if you are a
Speaker 1: pass first team against the Bills, they're a team that
Speaker 1: that's playing into their hair. Yeah, you don't want to
Speaker 1: do that, and this is an ultimate team that you
Speaker 1: got to just be patient, run the ball, and Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson would help Jonathan Taylor and help their running.
Speaker 5: The Bills aren't great against the run. No, you can
Speaker 5: play powerball against him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's number twelve among running backs and rushing yards
Speaker 2: over expected. I think a lot of that comes from
Speaker 2: if you total up the season totals rushes with Anthony
Speaker 2: Richardson in the backfield, where there is that threat that
Speaker 2: he's going to pull that ball, it's not necessarily there
Speaker 2: with Joe Flacco, and if they if they have Flecco,
Speaker 2: then you're going to expect to see those explosive plays
Speaker 2: in the passing game that they just didn't didn't materialize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Michael Pittman is still not one hundred percent.
Speaker 1: He's missing practice that he's played through this back injury
Speaker 1: and I heard him speaking on Wednesday, and he's a
Speaker 1: tough guy, but it almost seems like the team should
Speaker 1: maybe step in. He's not who he normally is. Ryan Kelly,
Speaker 1: their center, yeah, is out and going on injured reserve.
Speaker 1: They are getting their left tackle back, Bernard Ryman. It
Speaker 1: sounds like but Kelly might be out for a long time.
Speaker 1: So this is a it's a banged up team on
Speaker 1: top of everything else. That's not a good sign. I
Speaker 1: did want to note the Bills signed a couple defensive
Speaker 1: tackles this week with bounced around the league, Quintin Jefferson
Speaker 1: and Jordan Phillips. But that's sort of proving your point
Speaker 1: about they aren't feeling good about stopping the run when
Speaker 1: you're signing to journey man at this point in the
Speaker 1: season and hoping that they can help out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is not going to be like the Rams
Speaker 3: Dolphins game or the Steelers Washington game.
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Greg Russo, by the way, one of
Speaker 1: the best developmental stories I think in the league, improved
Speaker 1: every single season. I'm gonna like seeing him on the
Speaker 1: fast track there in Indie. Watch out for a big
Speaker 1: game there. I also think James Cook has just been
Speaker 1: fantastic this year picking up extra yards. We're gonna take
Speaker 1: a quick break in return for Yes, the Mike Turico,
Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth Sunday Night or it's a fun one.
Speaker 4: It's fun on Sunday Night, BEFO.
Speaker 1: When you see teams that just haven't been there though
Speaker 1: years and Detroit. We're starting to get used to Houston
Speaker 1: not as much. These two teams. They kind of remind
Speaker 1: me of each other. That Houston is on this track
Speaker 1: that Detroit's been on maybe one year longer. But they're
Speaker 1: they're hitting some turbulence right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, turbulence is the only way to get there, the
Speaker 2: only way to get If this game happens in week two,
Speaker 2: it's it's pandemonium. We're going nuts. The Texans on a
Speaker 2: little bit of a down stretch, but it's time. It's
Speaker 2: time for the game of the Week presented by DraftKings Sportsbook.
Speaker 2: The Detroit Lions three and a half point favorite on
Speaker 2: the road against those Houston Texans. My Tarrico, Chris Collinsworth,
Speaker 2: Melissa Stark on the call, they'll have a song before
Speaker 2: the game.
Speaker 3: Everything created.
Speaker 2: But then, Greg, this Houston Texans offensive line will have
Speaker 2: to protect CJ.
Speaker 3: Strout, something they have not been able to do.
Speaker 4: You know, this is the matchup where they can.
Speaker 3: Though.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, as good of a team that as the
Speaker 1: Lions are, and I like them, pick up of Zadaria
Speaker 1: Smith and big time he can. He can step in
Speaker 1: right away and play minutes for them. I don't think
Speaker 1: he needs to learn the scheme for three weeks to
Speaker 1: go rush the passer. They haven't rushed the passer well
Speaker 1: at all since Aiden Hutchinson has gotten her. And it's
Speaker 1: amazing that there's such a well oiled machine offensively, defensively,
Speaker 1: coaching special teams that it hasn't really mattered. They haven't
Speaker 1: faced an opponent that it's mattered. I think Houston should
Speaker 1: look at this matchup and say, actually, this is a
Speaker 1: front we might be able to get CJ some time against.
Speaker 1: And if we get CJ's some time, we got a chance.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And then and they've got to run the ball. They've
Speaker 5: they've got to pound the ball. Excepts to play action stuff.
Speaker 5: If it's you know, just CJ dropping back, they'll eventually
Speaker 5: get to them. Aaron Glenn can come up with some
Speaker 5: coverages to lock off some zones and stuff like that
Speaker 5: and create pressures.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what they have to do. He's had
Speaker 3: to be very creative.
Speaker 5: We know they like the blitzer inside linebackers Angelon he's
Speaker 5: to help a player. I think they've got to run
Speaker 5: the ball to kind of get it going. The boy
Speaker 5: the three and a half on this is interesting. I
Speaker 5: think Houston's been embarrassed. I think they're going to tighten
Speaker 5: it up this week. I actually like the Texans to
Speaker 5: win this one. Wow, all right, I do because I think,
Speaker 5: you know, as great as the Lions offense is playing
Speaker 5: right now too, matchup wise, this is good man, because
Speaker 5: you know how much the Lions they could pound the
Speaker 5: ball with Montgomery Gibbs. They constet up to play action
Speaker 5: golf hasn't been asked to do too much. I just
Speaker 5: think this is a game where Houston's scoring enough points
Speaker 5: as to where it's gonna be.
Speaker 3: The golf versus c J. Stroud show One thing that
Speaker 3: will help CJ.
Speaker 2: Stroud still waiting heard from head coach Tomico Ryans Nico
Speaker 2: Collins could come back.
Speaker 3: They're going to monitor him this week. CJ.
Speaker 2: Strauda is a higher passer rating, completion percentage by arts
Speaker 2: per attempt generated, more EPA. Of course, all those things
Speaker 2: seem obvious, but to look just at the difference with
Speaker 2: Nico Collins on the field versus Nico Collins, it is significant.
Speaker 2: I think it makes some of those offensive line issues
Speaker 2: not go away, but just a little bit easier to
Speaker 2: deal with. When you've got this giant gainer of yards
Speaker 2: and capture of football, giant human being out there to
Speaker 2: throw the football.
Speaker 1: Well, and we don't know that he's coming back. He
Speaker 1: was not at practice on Wednesday. They activated him. He
Speaker 1: supposedly as a decent chance to play this week. So
Speaker 1: that is something big to check. Because you're right, we
Speaker 1: kind of group that trio receivers together at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year, and then you realize, no, it's more
Speaker 1: like Justin Jefferson and the other good receivers like Jordan
Speaker 1: Addison on the Viking. There's a big gap between one
Speaker 1: and two and CJ loves that dude.
Speaker 4: That's his guy.
Speaker 1: It's a good point that Detroit, for as good as
Speaker 1: their offense is, I think this is actually their toughest
Speaker 1: test of a defense that they faced. Will Anderson missed
Speaker 1: Wednesday's practice, that's concerning, but he hasn't really missed game time,
Speaker 1: so I don't think that will be a problem. The
Speaker 1: bad news for the Texans zo is that in the
Speaker 1: rest of the league, frankly, the Lions are getting healthier.
Speaker 4: They're getting Jamison Williams back.
Speaker 1: Now he hasn't been hurt, he's out of suspension, but
Speaker 1: he's coming back on the field this week. They got
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith in the trade, and then they actually started
Speaker 1: the practice window for Melafon, who's a good safety, and
Speaker 1: Emmanuel Moseley, who's a guy who's gonna get snaps for
Speaker 1: them at cornerback. We don't know if they'll return this week,
Speaker 1: but they're getting some reinforcements. For a team that's really
Speaker 1: passed every test, this is another one. It's like they've
Speaker 1: had so many games where they've had to be up.
Speaker 4: This is a at a conference game on the road.
Speaker 1: They've just passed every test though, where they pretty much
Speaker 1: are playing their A minus game every week. That's really
Speaker 1: hard to do and they've done it.
Speaker 5: I'm so glad you mentioned the secondary. I love some
Speaker 5: of the young safeties, you know, Jalen Petrie, who's a
Speaker 5: superstar for Houston.
Speaker 3: But Kirby Joseph, Yeah, I mean he's a ballhawk, we know.
Speaker 5: I mean he game to fame last year because Matthew
Speaker 5: Stafford said, you know, he hit uh who's the tight end?
Speaker 3: Hit him low? And he still hasn't come back for
Speaker 3: the Rams this year. Tyler Hagby, Tyler Hagby, Right.
Speaker 5: Higbees come, I thank you for searching the roller deck.
Speaker 3: So the old man here keeps forgetting. But Kirby Joseph
Speaker 3: is a hell of a player, and he's somebody.
Speaker 5: If Nico Collins comes back and really starts to play
Speaker 5: that stuff where he's run up the hash marks like
Speaker 5: he does that, we could see some really good matchups.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they get Brian Branch to presumably come back
Speaker 2: and play a full game. He apologized for the double Bird,
Speaker 2: which gave us an opportunity to talk about the storied
Speaker 2: history of the double bird.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah on the Sunday Recap show. But a lot
Speaker 3: of good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the double birds were happening in Houston back with
Speaker 1: Bud Adams Cox.
Speaker 3: Bryan Cox still has one.
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Speaker 4: The crown is yours.
Speaker 1: I know, Patrick, you're not into like the Okay, the
Speaker 1: team is going to try harder this week because there's
Speaker 1: more motivation. Houston does have four extra days rest, which
Speaker 1: I think is a thing.
Speaker 4: Yep, so that's nice.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe in the try harder,
Speaker 1: but I do believe in that good teams respond to
Speaker 1: bad performances. That you're not gonna if you're a good team,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna stay bad consistently. And I do think
Speaker 1: that was the worst game that Texans played all season.
Speaker 1: US and so I can't see them responding and playing
Speaker 1: more like their a game.
Speaker 2: And you can do that because you are a good team,
Speaker 2: right and good teams can evaluate what went wrong and
Speaker 2: you can implement the corrections, whereas bad teams tend to
Speaker 2: just stay bad tend to just go ahead and wallow
Speaker 2: in the l Let's get scot in the NFC South,
Speaker 2: where the Atlanta Falcons are a four point favorite against
Speaker 2: the Dennis Allen less New Orleans saintsy over under forty six.
Speaker 2: Joe Davis g read can pay him Oliver on the call.
Speaker 2: Do the Saints get the we fired our coach and
Speaker 2: we like the next guy better bump Steve.
Speaker 5: They'll get They'll get a bump. And not only that,
Speaker 5: you know, but Derek Carr's got to come out and
Speaker 5: you know, get Mike Thomas off of his back as well.
Speaker 5: Mike Thomas came off with a few US gun missiles
Speaker 5: after that game.
Speaker 3: Look this is I mean, I know, I know it's.
Speaker 4: I was during the game that was like, hey, he.
Speaker 2: That wait, he's gonna watch He's gonna let you know
Speaker 2: how look it's four points.
Speaker 5: These guys always play close games. Atlanta is really rolling me.
Speaker 3: Kirk O. Kirko is playing good. We know the Saints
Speaker 3: defense is just not what it was.
Speaker 5: The way they're running the ball getting now they're getting
Speaker 5: you know, Kyle Pitts engaged.
Speaker 3: But I just think it's gonna be a close game.
Speaker 5: I think the Saints will get some type of spike,
Speaker 5: you know, because it's always just players. I've seen this forever.
Speaker 5: Oh man, now it's on us. We can't we don't
Speaker 5: have anyone else to play him. They fired the head coach,
Speaker 5: you know, and the Saints don't like to do.
Speaker 1: That, especially this one, because I think this one applies
Speaker 1: more for the fired coach principal than almost any I
Speaker 1: can ever remember, because the players fired their coach.
Speaker 3: The players fired them.
Speaker 5: That's how I I've been trying for years.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but not just through their play, but you know,
Speaker 1: through communication with the highest levels. I think they helped.
Speaker 1: So they're gonna Saints falcons. I saw this tweet. You
Speaker 1: know what you can do after after the election. One
Speaker 1: of one of the options you have, and one of
Speaker 1: them was making impulsive and self destruction, self destructive major
Speaker 1: life decision. I don't know if I want to do that,
Speaker 1: but I think I might just pick the Saints at
Speaker 1: least this week. That's my version of a self destructive
Speaker 1: leg because I believe in the fired coach principal enough
Speaker 1: more than ever. And in this matchup, this this is
Speaker 1: their super Bowl, it's their super Bowl. And you know
Speaker 1: when they played the first time around, that was a
Speaker 1: crazy game where the lead changed hands a couple of
Speaker 1: times in the last minute of the game.
Speaker 4: And that's just how these these two teams roll.
Speaker 3: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: I I would also like to make a rash decision
Speaker 2: and pick the Saints at home.
Speaker 3: I think, oh, I thought you were going to hit
Speaker 3: the bottle.
Speaker 2: The folks in New Orleans, you know, deserve the team
Speaker 2: to play better than it has in the past few seasons.
Speaker 2: But it's just this is not the same team, Lave.
Speaker 2: They're gonna who said that he's gonna go through the process.
Speaker 2: New coach, the interim coach we should mentioned, Darren Rizzy
Speaker 2: says that he is gonna have Chris Olave go through
Speaker 2: the process. Uh, Chris o'lave, the person is their primary
Speaker 2: concern before anything else. Wickeds and it started to pile
Speaker 2: up and and now we've got the ghost of said Wilson.
Speaker 2: Mark has Valdez Scantling. It's it's it's really difficult to imagine.
Speaker 2: And I know that the final goodbye, the final hurrah
Speaker 2: of the Dennis Allen era is going into Carolina and
Speaker 2: having Alvi Kameric get over two hundred yards Total's awesome.
Speaker 4: Last week he looked awesome.
Speaker 1: L you got Ak, you got Taysom Hill, you got
Speaker 1: some of those prideful guys in defense. This weird things
Speaker 1: happen in this matchup. We don't know about Drake London
Speaker 1: and Grady Jared status, but there was good news for
Speaker 1: the Falcons that their day to day so it is
Speaker 1: not long term for either one of those.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm feeling I shouldn't talk you about to take the
Speaker 3: sits now. I am no.
Speaker 5: No, It's gonna be a close game. Man's will. That's
Speaker 5: just how these teams play.
Speaker 1: I want to give John Robinson a little bit of
Speaker 1: love just because as well as he's playing, I think
Speaker 1: you almost take it for granted. But this is the
Speaker 1: best stretch of his career. Four straight games over one
Speaker 1: hundred yards from scrimmage. A couple of those had one
Speaker 1: hundred and forty last year on that Falcons offense, his
Speaker 1: UH success rate was below average thirty six percent, which
Speaker 1: for a guy that talented as a crime this year
Speaker 1: forty six percent, top six among all running backs in
Speaker 1: the league. So he's making the splash plays, but he's
Speaker 1: also just kind of grinding out those six yard games
Speaker 1: and he's been fun to watch. And I thought Kirk
Speaker 1: Cousins last week actually, maybe did he move a little better.
Speaker 1: They had a few playoffs, they had a few play
Speaker 1: action plays that hit. Now they didn't do much. He
Speaker 1: was four for four for eighty yards, so it's still
Speaker 1: only four attempts, but maybe moving a little better.
Speaker 5: And what about Darnell Mooney, Yes, what about how that
Speaker 5: dude has absolutely emerged. Him and kirkoh have that have
Speaker 5: got that relationship going. That's you know, that's something to
Speaker 5: watch in this game because he seems to be hitting
Speaker 5: a big play like every third.
Speaker 1: This isn't about logic, though, this this game, it's not
Speaker 1: about logic. It's about passion, it's about the fired coach principle.
Speaker 1: It's just about weird stuff happening when these two teams play.
Speaker 2: And it's true and not not just weird, because we've
Speaker 2: seen this collection of Saints players, even the ones that
Speaker 2: are remaining, I know they're doing with fins.
Speaker 3: We've seen them be successful.
Speaker 2: We saw them literally have the most successful season in
Speaker 2: Dennis Allen's coaching career last year.
Speaker 3: Nine wins was the top. That's as good as that
Speaker 3: was the scene.
Speaker 1: How did he finish off that season and also start
Speaker 1: to finish off his career by the Saint.
Speaker 3: So I apologizing to Arthur Smith by.
Speaker 2: Being disrespected by his own team, by his own team,
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: By James handing the ball.
Speaker 4: I heard.
Speaker 1: I saw James Hurst, who is on that team and
Speaker 1: is now working in local broadcasting and New Orleans, say
Speaker 1: that he thought that was the beginning. Maybe it wasn't
Speaker 1: even the beginning, but that was a huge moment in
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen losing the team, which is ironic because that
Speaker 1: was the moment the front office decided, actually, we're gonna
Speaker 1: keep him. But yes, Jameis Winston. Don't apologize for Jameis Winston.
Speaker 2: Yeah, or touchdowns, it's difficult to come by in the NFL.
Speaker 2: Our next game is the Minnesota Vikings, coming off of
Speaker 2: that win against Joe Flacco, a four and a half
Speaker 2: point favorite at the Jacksonville Jaguars, who were magnanimous enough
Speaker 2: Greg to send them a left tackle after Christian Darrisaw
Speaker 2: goes down. And now it's a time for the Cam
Speaker 2: Robinson revenge game against his old squad on Fox, Adam,
Speaker 2: I mean, Mark Sanchez and Christina pink on the call.
Speaker 3: How do you see it going?
Speaker 1: I think the Vikings are just a lot more trustworthy
Speaker 1: in a matchup where we don't know if Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 1: is going to be one hundred percent. He's sitting out
Speaker 1: of practice, was very sore apparently after that loss to
Speaker 1: the Eagles, and he's coming off one of his roughest games.
Speaker 1: He does not seem like the quarterback, and Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: doesn't seem like the play caller right now to be
Speaker 1: able to solve the puzzle that is facing Brian Flores. Now,
Speaker 1: some coaches can. We've seen it. We've seen Sean McVay
Speaker 1: do it. You know, we've seen Matt Lafleur do it
Speaker 1: to some degree. But I don't think this Jaguars team
Speaker 1: camp this is one of those matchups. I was like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I've never watched the Jaguars Vikings game,
Speaker 1: but I did check it has happened eight times in history,
Speaker 1: every four years, so it's.
Speaker 4: No different than every other matchup.
Speaker 1: But the last time they played was was during that
Speaker 1: pandemic year, and maybe that's why I've black black coled it.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars were one and eleven. Who were the starting
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and lost that game? Give me a second, was
Speaker 1: Mike Glennon and Kirko Yeah, Mike Glennon was for the Jags.
Speaker 3: Sorry, Wow, what are the drafts? Look?
Speaker 5: I like the number. I like the number four and
Speaker 5: a half. I like Minnesota to win it. The Jags
Speaker 5: are one of these teams games that if they're able
Speaker 5: to hang around, they're just gonna be a pain because
Speaker 5: defensively up front they can give you some headaches. I
Speaker 5: mean Trayvon Walker, he's a speed to power rusher, but
Speaker 5: he's good against the run. He can really get on
Speaker 5: a tackle. Josh Heines Allen's the same, a little bit
Speaker 5: more creative in the past rush. But I'm just worried
Speaker 5: for them. If Minnesota gets up early on them, then
Speaker 5: they might be on the brink of saying which way
Speaker 5: are we gonna go? Like, I don't know how much
Speaker 5: gump shit I think. I mean they're still playing hard,
Speaker 5: they're still competing in every game, but this is a game,
Speaker 5: it's in Jacksonville. I don't think they'll tap out, but
Speaker 5: I think if Minnesota gets up early on a fourteen
Speaker 5: to three or something like that, then you're gonna have
Speaker 5: some hands on.
Speaker 3: Hips in bad body language as they try to get back.
Speaker 2: It's I look at this collection of jackson and like
Speaker 2: you mentioned, Josh Allen, Trevon Walker, we see and Andre
Speaker 2: Cisco make some plays this season. I'll be at that
Speaker 2: secondary giving up a lot of opportunity tankers Bigsby really
Speaker 2: coming on. I look at this collection of players and
Speaker 2: could see them contributing on a Super Bowl roster. But
Speaker 2: together with this particular leadership group in Jacksonville, it's not working.
Speaker 2: And so much of it goes on the shoulders of
Speaker 2: the quarterback. And now we're potentially looking at c J.
Speaker 2: Bethard coming in.
Speaker 1: It's just well, I don't think CJ. Bethort will start,
Speaker 1: but they did activate him. I would assume to be
Speaker 1: Mac Jones's backup should Trevor Lawrence not play, which is
Speaker 1: let's just throw CJ. Betherd out there. Actually, I want
Speaker 1: to save mccorkyll. I don't want mccorkyll against Brian Flores.
Speaker 1: You know he's gonna come back in.
Speaker 2: Kyled of Jacksonville, Florida, mccorkyl Jones. There we go, there's
Speaker 2: the narrative Max starting in his hometown potentially why not?
Speaker 1: So yeah, we don't know about Lawrence's status, but it's
Speaker 1: a little concerning. This is an interesting part of the
Speaker 1: Viking season. They're six and two and I think there's
Speaker 1: some real Are they really a real deal contender? And
Speaker 1: we'll find out maybe later in the season, because their
Speaker 1: next three games is a three game road trip. You
Speaker 1: don't see that too often, and it's at Jacksonville, at
Speaker 1: Tennessee at Chicago, three teams who have offensive issues that
Speaker 1: I think Brian Flores and this defense match up well against.
Speaker 1: I don't know if they win all three, but there's
Speaker 1: certainly a chance. And then you're looking at they could
Speaker 1: be nine to two, maybe worst case, they're eight and
Speaker 1: three heading into the stretch run, and they're still in
Speaker 1: a real nice spot even if Sam Donald's not playing
Speaker 1: the well. Sam Donald's having a lot of turnover worthy
Speaker 1: plays the last four weeks among the league leaders, and
Speaker 1: yet I don't know if it's gonna matter in the.
Speaker 5: He's got Justin Jefferson man, I mean you sa I mean,
Speaker 5: and then not Howkinson's coming back, I mean Aaron Jones.
Speaker 5: They're starting to open things up a little bit. But
Speaker 5: I'm glad you bought up the point about the schedule
Speaker 5: because a three game roadie against teams that you know
Speaker 5: you don't necessarily get up for, right, that's a test, Okay,
Speaker 5: that is significant mental test of a young team, a
Speaker 5: quarterback who's finally starting to hit his strike, to see
Speaker 5: if they're real right. The good teams handle that even
Speaker 5: if they've got a gut out the win.
Speaker 3: So this is a good mental test to see where
Speaker 3: they are.
Speaker 5: The Cam Robinson game, he played really good after being
Speaker 5: with that team for like three days last week, I
Speaker 5: mean I and again getting Hockinson back. I think I
Speaker 5: love the point you made about this is not necessarily
Speaker 5: the tough part of their schedule. This is the mentally
Speaker 5: challenging part of the schedules. See how good they are.
Speaker 2: There's some secret Kevin O'Connell sawce that we saw with
Speaker 2: the pastor up dudes good last year. And then Cam
Speaker 2: Robinson plays all seventy one snaps, just gives up one snap,
Speaker 2: one sack after just showing up. This is something that
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell can do.
Speaker 1: About not to get ahead of ourselves here before we talk,
Speaker 1: you know, Bears later. But as as all the heat
Speaker 1: that's on Eberfloss, he looks even worse because he's in
Speaker 1: this division with three great coaches. Yeah, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is a tough division coaches.
Speaker 2: So we'll get to the Chicago Bears coming up here
Speaker 2: as we go by spread. The next biggest one is
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers five and a half
Speaker 2: point favorites. Don't get that number man at the Tampa
Speaker 2: Bay Buccaneers who took the reigning undefeated Super Bowl champion
Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs to the wire on overtime. Perhaps uh
Speaker 2: maybe some lingering effects there, as it was overtime in
Speaker 2: the rain. Either way, five and a half point favorites
Speaker 2: is San Francisco. The over under is fifty and a half.
Speaker 2: Kevin Burkhart, some dude named Tom and Aaron Andrews and
Speaker 2: another guy, Tom Rinaldi on the call, Steve with the
Speaker 2: potential of Christian McCaffrey coming back.
Speaker 5: I mean, I am good. I'm sitting here right now
Speaker 5: like Tampa can win this game. And when I say
Speaker 5: the five and a half, I think that is a big,
Speaker 5: big spread for this game. Yeah, it's a short way
Speaker 5: for Tampa, but they're playing at home. San Francisco's got
Speaker 5: to go across the country watching.
Speaker 3: It as a viewer.
Speaker 5: Okay, how if Christian McCaffrey comes back, what's the rotation
Speaker 5: gonna be. Are they gonna go Jordan Mation early and
Speaker 5: hammer the Bucks, soften him up for McCaffrey, or they're
Speaker 5: gonna have McCaffrey come in and get the Blitz to
Speaker 5: back off because is he gonna receive?
Speaker 3: Is he gonna do this? And that? That's something I'm
Speaker 3: looking at.
Speaker 5: But I mean when I watch the Bucks and it's
Speaker 5: like a weekend, week out thing, even without their receivers.
Speaker 5: The way that they play offensively, that offensive line is good.
Speaker 5: They had a couple penalties that really put him in
Speaker 5: situations last week when they were moving the football. Baker
Speaker 5: is playing well and my guy Kate Otten did he
Speaker 5: make the preseason All Pro with heat.
Speaker 1: And that would have been a tough one to predict
Speaker 1: ahead of time. There's some good tight ends out there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know what Kate Hahn's are playing good for
Speaker 5: a couple of years, But I mean the fact that
Speaker 5: they stepped up in the way that they compete the
Speaker 5: way they do. I think that five and a half
Speaker 5: is a big number. I'm not saying they beat the Niners.
Speaker 5: I think they could, but this is going to be
Speaker 5: a really tough game for San Francisco.
Speaker 1: I have a hard time picking this game, spread anything
Speaker 1: about it. Because if you told me that the Kyle
Speaker 1: Shanahan late season serge starts now, I'd buy it that
Speaker 1: we see the best game we've seen all season and
Speaker 1: they do win by a touchdown and barely cover something
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 4: You know, I hear you.
Speaker 1: The Bucks are a really good offense. They're a top
Speaker 1: ten offense right now. But CMC comes back. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes you lose track of the injuries. There's been so many.
Speaker 1: Juan Jennings is coming back. He's a valuable player for them.
Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel is at practice limited in practice, but he
Speaker 1: should be back. Their offensive lines a little healthier, and
Speaker 1: it's a trend. Shanny the late season serge. All right,
Speaker 1: let's go through it. Last last three seasons. November Guy
Speaker 1: four and five. Three seasons ago, they end up in
Speaker 1: the NFC Title Game with a ten point lead in
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter that they blow to the Rams. But
Speaker 1: they were four and five in that season with Jimmy
Speaker 1: g at the help before their late season serge. Two
Speaker 1: seasons ago, they were four and four. They end up
Speaker 1: again getting to the NFC title game that was directly
Speaker 1: after their bye. Was the four and four mark. Last season,
Speaker 1: not as dramatic, but they went into their buy at
Speaker 1: five and three on a three game losing streak and
Speaker 1: immediately went on a run and then went to the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl and really was the best team in the NFC.
Speaker 5: Trent Williams and Deebo Shamuel, I think we're out for
Speaker 5: all those three.
Speaker 1: So injuries were certainly a part, but they are again
Speaker 1: this year and so you can kind of see them,
Speaker 1: wow getting together.
Speaker 3: Great, that's great stuff.
Speaker 2: Greg rock Purty averaging eleven point four yards per play
Speaker 2: on play action passes. I know Jordan Mason filled in.
Speaker 2: He was leading the NFL in rushes and yards. It's
Speaker 2: a different situation when Christian McCaffrey is ye. This forty
Speaker 2: nine ers passing game improves because they get their running
Speaker 2: back back oddly enough, but so many times, even when
Speaker 2: they had the full contingent, the best matchup in the
Speaker 2: passing game was CMC. And I know folks think it
Speaker 2: takes time. He's coming back from injury. The reason he
Speaker 2: was out was so he could be one hundred percent
Speaker 2: and one hundred percent who rested CMC. It could you know,
Speaker 2: things could go wrong on any place, That could happen
Speaker 2: for anybody. I think this offense gets a whole lot
Speaker 2: better here. Here's a question. Is one hundred percent or
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifteen percent? Because he did code to
Speaker 2: Germany to get some special treatments.
Speaker 3: Got the of Androgo special. Yeah, yeah, I'm not.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get it done here. You go
Speaker 1: to Germany and he's got it done.
Speaker 4: Yes.
Speaker 1: Shout out to all the Jordan Mason fantasy owners out there.
Speaker 1: Don't don't you know, be sad, Just be happy that
Speaker 1: it ever happened at all. You got like you got
Speaker 1: an RB one for half the season. It wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: last forever. I need that message today, Greg, Thank you same.
Speaker 1: Isaac Grenda, by the way, playing well. They have a
Speaker 1: nice little rookie rookie class. Before the I was thinking
Speaker 1: they've they've needed some young players to start supplementing all
Speaker 1: these starts, and quietly Ronardo Green, We'll see about Pearsaw,
Speaker 1: who had a pretty good game. They got the guard
Speaker 1: Poony who's playing like they got a lot of rookies playing.
Speaker 1: So good job by John Lynch in this last draft.
Speaker 1: Good job by you guys. In the second block of
Speaker 1: this show, We're going to take another break and we'll
Speaker 1: be back with the biggest point spreads of the week.
Speaker 4: Back on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: Colleen Wolf is not part of the trade deadline spectacular
Speaker 1: because she was catching a bird over to Germany.
Speaker 3: How about that?
Speaker 4: Check her out? And now the pregame coverage.
Speaker 1: From where are they much Munich?
Speaker 3: To know this right, Frankfurt? The Munich?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right around a few one hundred kilometers away from
Speaker 2: where Jim tom Sulla is the head coach of the
Speaker 2: New Rhyin Fire.
Speaker 3: Yes he is. So.
Speaker 2: Shout out to the international football Shout out to the
Speaker 2: global community, as we have got an opportunity to rise
Speaker 2: and shine and watch. Sunday Week ten kicks off with
Speaker 2: the New York Giants five and a half point favorites
Speaker 2: in Munich against Bryce Young and the Carolina Panthers, who
Speaker 2: got the win against the Saints. Rich Isend, Kurt Warner,
Speaker 2: Jamie Hurdaal and Sarah Walsh on the call. Greg we
Speaker 2: get the early kickoff on NFL Network. Well against the
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers d defense that has seen opposing running running
Speaker 2: backs have success. Dimes and the Giant g Men, we're
Speaker 2: all about the ground game last week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, their offense has looked solid the last two weeks.
Speaker 1: They've been very up and down throughout the course of
Speaker 1: the season. Hard to know what to make of them.
Speaker 1: But I'm not just selling this game because it's on
Speaker 1: NFL Network. I enjoy watching me a little Theo Johnson,
Speaker 1: a little moleak neighbors, just as bad teams go a
Speaker 1: little Dexter Lawrence on the defensive side of the ball
Speaker 1: in that pass rush. The Giants have some players that
Speaker 1: will make them watchable. And Danny Dimes. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a rollercoaster against almost anyone, that's all I'm saying. Them
Speaker 1: against a bad defense, they could put up some fantasy numbers.
Speaker 1: Theo Johnson, I just a'm thinking it like they'd be
Speaker 1: a little bit of a streamer this week.
Speaker 5: I like this number, and look, I like what you
Speaker 5: said about Daniel Jones because last couple of games watching him,
Speaker 5: I know so much comes down on him, but they
Speaker 5: make so many dumb penalties and dumb mistics, Like he'll
Speaker 5: be moving the team all the way down the field.
Speaker 5: Next thing you know, it's third and fifteen and then
Speaker 5: he makes a bad play. But if they could just
Speaker 5: stop with the dumb fundamental mistakes, he would look a
Speaker 5: lot better. But that's what bad teams do. I want
Speaker 5: to say this about Bryce Young because Dave Canalis, the
Speaker 5: head coach to the Panthers, said Bryce is going to start.
Speaker 5: I spoke with Vance Joseph, the DC of the Broncos
Speaker 5: they played the Panthers a couple weeks ago. He's like, Steve,
Speaker 5: they better not give up on this kid, and if
Speaker 5: they do, someone's gonna get a guy who can play.
Speaker 5: And I was like, hmm, that goes contrary to a
Speaker 5: lot of stuff. He's like, Bryce Young made every good
Speaker 5: decision against our scheme.
Speaker 3: He threw the.
Speaker 5: Ball very well, accurately, but like he's not soft touching.
Speaker 5: He wasn't wiffleballing it like he was early in the season,
Speaker 5: Like he was sticking throws and he was like, and
Speaker 5: we beat the hell out of him and he got up.
Speaker 5: Every time he says the size is an issue. They've
Speaker 5: got to figure out how to coach around his size,
Speaker 5: Like that's something that's not gonna change or whoever he
Speaker 5: is next year.
Speaker 3: But they're like, that kid has got stuffed to him.
Speaker 5: You see why he was number one, So against his defense,
Speaker 5: he's gonna be up against pressure again. We know the
Speaker 5: Giants can get after the quarterback. But I like the fact,
Speaker 5: especially after talking to Vance, whose defense is really good,
Speaker 5: that they're giving him another shot, that they didn't go
Speaker 5: to Dalton and saying, Okay, let's see if he can
Speaker 5: continue to build on something. So they saw what Van
Speaker 5: saw it who was trying to scheme against him?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and saw Bryce probably Bryce Young, And I guess
Speaker 2: the emblematic of the way the season's gone for the
Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. His best throat to exavierly get on Sunday,
Speaker 2: it got picked off an incredible play swiping it away
Speaker 2: of the Saints and I'm blanking on the young defender's
Speaker 2: name there, but it was one of the plays of
Speaker 2: the day.
Speaker 3: I'll figure it out here before we move to the
Speaker 3: next game.
Speaker 2: But it's tough to think about this without the matchups
Speaker 2: of the defense. Ye, and you've got a guy leading
Speaker 2: the defensive tackles in sacks and Dexter Lawrence so good.
Speaker 2: And the way that this defense is playing for the
Speaker 2: Giants versus a very porous Carolina pantherny files that has
Speaker 2: seen everybody have success. And you know the Panthers sellers
Speaker 2: at the trade deadline, Mingo's gone, they got great trades
Speaker 2: from Carolina, Deontay Johnson gone. The cupboard becomes bear. And
Speaker 2: as much as I want to pick Carolina in this game, Greg,
Speaker 2: I just feel like.
Speaker 1: I like him to cover at least, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: had that perspective on Vance Joseph, a man who knows
Speaker 1: a lot more and is much smarter than me. To
Speaker 1: confirm my priors, which is, I've watched these last two games,
Speaker 1: and I think he's played better. I think the thing
Speaker 1: that I've been most impressed that's changed is I don't
Speaker 1: think he's played scared. And I don't mean physically, I
Speaker 1: just mean I think he was very hesitant to make
Speaker 1: tight window throws, and he's been making those throws last
Speaker 1: couple weeks now, he could have had a couple of
Speaker 1: picks against the Saints, but I still thought it was
Speaker 1: one of his better games as a pro because he
Speaker 1: kept making those throws and he kept putting it into
Speaker 1: tight windows, and he had a number of really good
Speaker 1: throws and the decision making was solid. So I think
Speaker 1: it's encouraging. I mean, look, everyone copes differently. It was
Speaker 1: what it was Tuesday night, as the existential dread was
Speaker 1: building and the pit in my stomach, I was like,
Speaker 1: I can't watch this anymore. We had been talking with
Speaker 1: Steve earlier in the day. He said he was just
Speaker 1: going to watch Netflix and and find out as it went.
Speaker 4: How I coped was.
Speaker 1: I put on a little Saints Panthers and watched me
Speaker 1: some Bryce Young so I could be as ready for
Speaker 1: this as possible. It didn't really solve the existential dread,
Speaker 1: but it was a distraction and it was nice to
Speaker 1: see that that he I thought he played pretty well
Speaker 1: in that perform Yes.
Speaker 3: Very well.
Speaker 2: The player I could not think of Shamar Jean Charles.
Speaker 2: Who has the most New Orleans Saints name.
Speaker 4: I wanted to say Stanley John Baptiz, And I was confusing.
Speaker 1: I was confusing my random Saints amazing, bringing us to
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Greg Drake May and the New England Patriots
Speaker 1: taking on fellow rookie quarterback the number one overall pick,
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: As six point.
Speaker 2: Favorite are the Bears after getting run out of Farm
Speaker 2: Stadium by Kyler and Company the over under forty two.
Speaker 2: It's Jim, Tony and Tracy on the call as excuse me, Kevin,
Speaker 2: Cookler and Darryl say they're not giving us Yeah, that
Speaker 2: would be nuts.
Speaker 1: The Patriots are on probation with Jim and Tony for
Speaker 1: about three more years.
Speaker 3: That's not happening. It's the Bears is a six point favorite. Steve.
Speaker 2: We have seen the highs and the lows here in
Speaker 2: the past three weeks for the Bears offense. How do
Speaker 2: they do against New England?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 5: In the word to DJ Moore, I want to say no, look, man,
Speaker 5: this is gonna be a.
Speaker 1: Tough Give us a little more context of why he
Speaker 1: said so again.
Speaker 5: DJ Moore was asked on a radio interviewer podcast interview,
Speaker 5: has head coach Matt Eberflush lost to locker room and
Speaker 5: he I want.
Speaker 3: To say no, it was.
Speaker 5: Not It was not an emphatic endorsement. Look, Chicago, they
Speaker 5: got some things going on. I mean, you hear a
Speaker 5: player like that. You saw Dj Moore for whatever reason,
Speaker 5: I don't know if he got hurt whatever.
Speaker 3: Game. In a play against.
Speaker 5: Arizona Middle plays walks off the field like what is
Speaker 5: going on there? This is after you know, play, after
Speaker 5: the corner, you know of the hail Mary play is
Speaker 5: wave into the crowd and makes me saying, what is
Speaker 5: going on with this team? That's not happening in New England. Yes,
Speaker 5: they were soft when they got their butts kicked over
Speaker 5: in England, right, but they compete this six point number.
Speaker 5: I guess they're saying, Okay, the Patriots can't block anybody,
Speaker 5: and the Bears can get after the quarterback Drake May
Speaker 5: And I'm gonna continue to say it. He is a
Speaker 5: real guy. Okay, he's coming off a two pick game
Speaker 5: last week. He can play. I like this game because
Speaker 5: Caleb can play. I like these young quarterbacks. Caleb clearly
Speaker 5: has more options right here. I like the Bears in
Speaker 5: the game, but the six points I am not sure.
Speaker 5: And I will not be stunned if the Patriots win
Speaker 5: this game.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't either, because the vibes are that bad with
Speaker 1: the Bears that there's it's a really fascinating thing, how like, Okay,
Speaker 1: he clearly the coach and the players, maybe they're not
Speaker 1: all on the same page offensively DJ Moore and Keenan
Speaker 1: Allen even a Dunzee sometimes like something's been amiss there.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's just not being on the same page
Speaker 1: literally with the routes. And sometimes it's just they don't
Speaker 1: seem very happy. So when that happens, somehow that it
Speaker 1: does manifest on Sundays, like you saw it with that
Speaker 1: Saints Panthers game, like they had no business really losing
Speaker 1: that game, and somehow all the intangibles show up on
Speaker 1: the field. And so a team like that, that's not
Speaker 1: it's not like they're They're more talented than the Patriots
Speaker 1: by a good amount, but they're also not the most
Speaker 1: talented team in the league. Surely they could lose this game. Now,
Speaker 1: putting that aside, the Patriots, I think, other than May
Speaker 1: are the worst team in the NFL. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're very well coached, especially on offense, and I don't
Speaker 1: think they're very talented. So I would still expect the
Speaker 1: Bears to win but I wouldn't. I wouldn't take that
Speaker 1: six points. And I'm rooting for my guy, Drake may.
Speaker 5: Mre Stevenson getting any vibes from him help out the
Speaker 5: offense for the Patriots.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's always playing hard, but he also ran
Speaker 1: for sixteen yards on ten carries. That he's a great player.
Speaker 1: That just shows how bankrupt they are in their offensive
Speaker 1: their offensive line, because that's the way you would want
Speaker 1: to beat the Bears is running the ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they they can't right now.
Speaker 4: They really can't.
Speaker 3: They have they have not been able to.
Speaker 2: And I think a part of what's going on in
Speaker 2: the vibes situation over in Chicago has a lot to
Speaker 2: do with the play calling situation, especially in the past
Speaker 2: two weeks where you saw in and wins against the Rams,
Speaker 2: the Panthers Jacksonville targets balls going to Cole Comett. He
Speaker 2: had two touchdowns against the Jacks the past two weeks
Speaker 2: and the two game losing streak one catch for fourteen yards.
Speaker 3: That's been been it for Cole Comett.
Speaker 2: And maybe you know, we we just watched the DJ
Speaker 2: Moore decide to leave in the middle of the play
Speaker 2: where perhaps he's stepped out of bounds and he's thinking
Speaker 2: he can.
Speaker 4: Say it was an ankle he twisted.
Speaker 5: When I watched it, I thought he got hurt. When
Speaker 5: I watched it, I thought he got hurt.
Speaker 2: He's fully like on the bench before Kyler throws them.
Speaker 2: Yeah to Keenan Allen, and it's the you know, vibes,
Speaker 2: vibes aside, he's.
Speaker 5: A player right there, yeah, right there. See to me,
Speaker 5: it looks like he's limping, like he's pulling up.
Speaker 4: Yes, let's see he confirmed it or in iber flu SAIDs.
Speaker 2: And so like he's answering questions postgame, he's dealing with
Speaker 2: the fact that they're losing.
Speaker 3: He's not feeling good. They're hurt.
Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, but as you guys mentioned,
Speaker 2: the talent disparity is significant in this one. And I've
Speaker 2: been browsing Bears injury reports for weeks waiting for Jaquan
Speaker 2: Brisker and Kyler Gordon. Kyler Gordon a limited participant in
Speaker 2: practice on Wednesday. So there's the up. There's the vibe
Speaker 2: bonus for the Chicago Bears.
Speaker 1: But as one guy comes back, they're losing another. Andrew
Speaker 1: Billings has been really good for them in the middle
Speaker 1: of their defensive line and he is now out for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season with the injury that he
Speaker 1: suffered last week. I was like, yeah, I was I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, they're more talented overall, but actually on
Speaker 1: the lines, this is a rare game where the Patriots
Speaker 1: offensive line thinks, hey, maybe we won't totally collapse this.
Speaker 1: This group up front for the Bears aren't great. It's
Speaker 1: week on week and on the other side, actually they
Speaker 1: might be able to get after Caleb because everyone gets
Speaker 1: after Caleb. And I'm glad you mentioned the Brisker thing
Speaker 1: because I'm really frustrated with how in the background some
Speaker 1: of these failures in concussion spotting has become. This used
Speaker 1: to be like a whole thing that people we talked
Speaker 1: about a lot. Takwan Brisker, after a play where he
Speaker 1: was absolutely reckless and you know, had a massive hit
Speaker 1: that caused this concussion, stayed on the field for the
Speaker 1: entire rest of the game. They never even checked him.
Speaker 1: And it was something where his teammates put their arms
Speaker 1: around him and helped him off the field. That was
Speaker 1: how obvious it was at the time they that spotter
Speaker 1: never even checked him. He ended up playing eighty five
Speaker 1: percent of the snaps in that game. The next day
Speaker 1: he came in and self reported that was five weeks ago,
Speaker 1: and this man is not able to play football again.
Speaker 1: I'm sure he's you know, just as a human, you
Speaker 1: really feel for him. But also we're not we're not
Speaker 1: doing enough to help these guys out.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean they're they're trying. We're seeing some cases
Speaker 5: where it does work, and it's it's tricky. I mean again,
Speaker 5: you you've seen where they helped him off. They should
Speaker 5: have spotted it, but somebody else, I mean should have
Speaker 5: seen it.
Speaker 3: But the fact he's missed that much time, that's not good.
Speaker 1: They failed him, they really did. Oh man, maybe I
Speaker 1: will pick the do it do it dupid effort? Don't
Speaker 1: I did last week and at the like ten minutes before,
Speaker 1: I mean, you almost switched my pick, and then then
Speaker 1: they lost.
Speaker 3: You were exceedingly close. But May, but May, you're seeing
Speaker 3: the stuff with Drake May.
Speaker 1: I will say, it's see the old the old math
Speaker 1: and me would would point out like, hey, Drake May,
Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, like in this game, like who do you
Speaker 1: trust a little more? I take May, but I know
Speaker 1: the context that's not fair. Caleb Williams is in a
Speaker 1: very difficult position, but Drake may is showing what you
Speaker 1: would want to see out of a number three overall
Speaker 1: pick for sure.
Speaker 2: And now we've got a game that features, well, not
Speaker 2: the number three quarterback, a number two quarterback, as Cooper
Speaker 2: Rush will start his series of games for the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: This time he is at home and a seven point underdog
Speaker 2: against the Philadelphia Eagles. This game does feature Jim Nance,
Speaker 2: Tony Romo, and Tracy Wolfson as the Eagles get the win,
Speaker 2: holding off a Jags comeback last week. Greg, and now
Speaker 2: it's it's a divisional game against the Dallas team that's
Speaker 2: kind of limping to the halfway finish line.
Speaker 1: Man, it feels like the finish line. This was bad
Speaker 1: luck for Doc Prescott to have that injury, Bad luck
Speaker 1: for Jim and Toni and CBS, bad luck for all
Speaker 1: the country that's gonna be watching this in a pretty
Speaker 1: quiet late window.
Speaker 4: Is this the national game?
Speaker 3: Still gonna get eyeballs?
Speaker 1: Sure, it's football, like it always gets eyeballs, but it's
Speaker 1: not my eyeballs. I'm gonna be watching one of those
Speaker 1: other two games. I'm not into this watching this Cowboys
Speaker 1: team and this Eagles team, even though they still eagle
Speaker 1: it up and just let a team back in it
Speaker 1: and stuff. I will say, like the second half of
Speaker 1: that Bengals game, in the first half of that Jaguars game,
Speaker 1: there was dom in football, and I like seeing that
Speaker 1: out of this team because it's been a while since
Speaker 1: we've even seen stretches of dominant football. And I don't
Speaker 1: think they're gonna have a problem getting up for the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: They're gonna love seeing a wounded Cowboys team. And they're
Speaker 1: really tough upfront. Their defensive lines playing much better. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Nick Fango is doing a good job, and we know
Speaker 1: the offensive line is good even without my lot, and
Speaker 1: they've been pushing people around in the running game, so
Speaker 1: I think they're licking their chops and I think they're
Speaker 1: gonna look really good in this game.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Nick Surian is a type of dude who's gonna say, Okay,
Speaker 5: this and this and this, so let's go get at Philadelphia.
Speaker 3: Seven point favorites.
Speaker 5: The number is going to be bigger than that, just
Speaker 5: because I just don't think Dallas is gonna score.
Speaker 3: I mean, they don't run the ball well anyway.
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush Vic Fangio, the Eagles defensive coord and said, well,
Speaker 5: they're not gonna change their offense with this guy like
Speaker 5: whoa like that. That's not great because I mean it's
Speaker 5: basically said, they're gonna play pitch and catch with Ceedee
Speaker 5: Lamb and they're gonna get some balls at Jake Ferguson
Speaker 5: and that's pretty much all that they have. So there's
Speaker 5: some things they're gonna do to try to limit that.
Speaker 5: So I think that I think Saquon I know, Mike
Speaker 5: oh Parsons, right, I think he's starting kind of returning
Speaker 5: back to practice the possibility he could come back.
Speaker 4: He's he sounded confident that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I mean maybe that's something to get Dallas' defense
Speaker 5: to play a little bit better. But the Eagles just
Speaker 5: have too much man. Ever since aj Brown came back,
Speaker 5: this offense has been cracking.
Speaker 3: Yeah, very very good.
Speaker 2: They're getting good contributions without Dallas Goddard or Grant Calca
Speaker 2: Terris playing. Well how about that to the extent where
Speaker 2: it kind of seemed like, I don't know if Nick
Speaker 2: Sirianni had a little bit of heat for Holly when
Speaker 2: there was discussions about I forget specifically what the quote
Speaker 2: was about like he made his case essentially saying what
Speaker 2: the team's needs were and how he felt like, you know,
Speaker 2: the roster was in a solid position, So maybe that's
Speaker 2: what he was referencing. Who knows, maybe we got to
Speaker 2: go on the sideline at a home Eagles game and
Speaker 2: just yell at him and the whole Nick Sirianni will
Speaker 2: reveal that information to us. But they're using twelve personnel
Speaker 2: at one of the fourth highest rates, not one of
Speaker 2: at the forest highest rate, and in the NFL. It
Speaker 2: makes sense considering the way that Makai Beckton is playing
Speaker 2: the guys up front at Saquon as well, mashing it's
Speaker 2: it's tough to take the Dallas defense, Mike got or no.
Speaker 3: Yes.
Speaker 1: Speaking of personnel decisions, how about some credit for Vic Fangio,
Speaker 1: who basically brought in Zach Bond and early in the
Speaker 1: offseason kind of was saying, this is going to be
Speaker 1: our guy, not the seven million dollar former Super Bowl
Speaker 1: winner Devin White that you signed, Howie Roseman, my guy,
Speaker 1: Zach Bond, and he's been great and Nakobe dienas really
Speaker 1: developed and player they're hoping. So how he also deserves
Speaker 1: credit because his rookies are playing well, So Vic brings
Speaker 1: a guy in the rookies are playing well in the secondary,
Speaker 1: there is not a starter. This amazed me when I
Speaker 1: heard this. On their defense over twenty seven years old.
Speaker 1: That's a nice group.
Speaker 5: And if you can have those younger guys on those
Speaker 5: younger guy contracts and you're paying your quarterback the way
Speaker 5: you're paying him in the offense, some of those offensive
Speaker 5: linemen the way you're paying him, that helps.
Speaker 1: In good news for a jab Aj Brown, by the way,
Speaker 1: is day to day and was back at the practice field.
Speaker 1: So that was shocking to me because I thought that
Speaker 1: might be a long term injury. That's that's really good news.
Speaker 1: He might even play in this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, good news for everybody but fans of the Dallas
Speaker 2: Cowboys who are just looking for for some simbilance of positivity.
Speaker 3: I'll let's go that next game the Tennessee Titan.
Speaker 4: Wait a second, we haven't talked to survivor at all.
Speaker 3: And that's a great call. Greg.
Speaker 1: I feel like the way that you said you think
Speaker 1: the Eagles will top the number there.
Speaker 4: How I'm feeling about this.
Speaker 1: We haven't taken the Eagles yet, all right, it's unanimous. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm willing to Cooper Rush not a bad backup, but
Speaker 1: he's not He's not.
Speaker 2: John with a full deck here in a season of
Speaker 2: NFL upsets, once we began to work together as a team, unbeat.
Speaker 4: We're on a roll.
Speaker 3: How about that.
Speaker 5: I'm killing survived the Kellen Moore, the Kellen Wore revenge game.
Speaker 3: Oh it is it is there we go.
Speaker 1: Wow, they could put forty up on him and then
Speaker 1: he'll be coaching the Cowboy next year.
Speaker 4: I can see it. I can absolutely see it.
Speaker 2: Oh, it would be a very very Dallas Cowboys thing
Speaker 2: to do, to go for change and then not change
Speaker 2: very much at all. The Tennessee Titans on the road
Speaker 2: across the street taking on the Chargers, who were seven
Speaker 2: and a half point favorites after thrashing and picking off
Speaker 2: Jameis Winston three times. Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilba, and Megan A.
Speaker 2: Levy on the call, Steve, where we have seen maximum
Speaker 2: herbo the past three weeks?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Does it continue?
Speaker 5: And it looks like we're gonna get will let us
Speaker 5: back for the Tennessee Titans.
Speaker 4: If you like to sen here, you're punching.
Speaker 5: Wow, you know because he gets gets Tully two below
Speaker 5: too and Khuli Mack and Joey Bosa and I mean
Speaker 5: this charge defense, this is you know, soon they've they've
Speaker 5: got to start to strike the national consciousness. They are
Speaker 5: very much Yeah, they're playing the sand division as a chief,
Speaker 5: but they are very much in this playoff hunt in
Speaker 5: the AFC, and their defense is getting it. They're playing
Speaker 5: typical harball ball smashing physically on offense. You know, Herbert's
Speaker 5: playing fantastic, but you know this this game here seven
Speaker 5: and a half, like what that's I guess they think
Speaker 5: that Jim Harbas is going to be a nice sportsman
Speaker 5: and just take it.
Speaker 3: Takes full.
Speaker 4: That's a lot for a Chargers team, that really team.
Speaker 5: But I remember nineteen points a game, and the Titans
Speaker 5: are not like I mean offensively.
Speaker 4: No, I was.
Speaker 1: I was not impressed by the Titans last week or
Speaker 1: just in general. I thought Mason Rudolph made them more stable.
Speaker 1: But they've got issues everywhere everywhere that and they have
Speaker 1: subpark quarterback play on top of that.
Speaker 2: But DeAndre Hopkins gave a salute. That's fair that you
Speaker 2: said he remembered them Herbo.
Speaker 1: So yes, they're physical, Yeah, but they're physical in pass
Speaker 1: protection right now, because that's what they're doing is throwing
Speaker 1: the ball. There's a stat called neutral pass rate just
Speaker 1: in kind of normal down and distant situations where it
Speaker 1: could be run or pass.
Speaker 4: What do you do while Herbot was hurt early.
Speaker 1: In the season, and they're establishing this team before by
Speaker 1: thirty first in the league in neutral pass rate since
Speaker 1: the buye, they're putting it on Herbo's shoulders second in
Speaker 1: the league. They've actually been as pass heavy as possible now.
Speaker 1: The way these games have played out, a lot of
Speaker 1: it is passing a lot early and then just grinding
Speaker 1: the other team down late and so that it's not
Speaker 1: no longer a neutral situation. But that is really encouraging.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of downfield throws that really works against
Speaker 1: this Titans team. The secondary is struggling, so they making
Speaker 1: Herbo fun to watch again is one of my favorite developments.
Speaker 1: That said, they faced the thirty set the easiest schedule
Speaker 1: in the entire NFL according to DVA so far, and
Speaker 1: this week is not gonna change that.
Speaker 2: And Jim Schwartz defense having a little bit of a
Speaker 2: corner safety conversations as multiple blown coverages went up. Doesn't
Speaker 2: hurt those stats, but the opportunities are there and he's
Speaker 2: taking them and hitting them. And you mentioned it, Greg
Speaker 2: before the buy six yards per attempt on downfield passing
Speaker 2: after the bye fourteen point eight yards per attempt. That's crazy.
Speaker 2: As herbo is throwing deep to Ladd, who was at
Speaker 2: Ladd Macon great rookie season as well as this defense
Speaker 2: continued to be solid week after week against the team that's.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know that.
Speaker 2: I feel like they have a better chance of winning
Speaker 2: with Will Levis coming in versus Mason Rudolph.
Speaker 3: In fact, I feel like it goes don't.
Speaker 5: Well, I think this is just like, let's find out
Speaker 5: what he's got. We got we got the rest of
Speaker 5: the season. I mean, they were sellers at the trade deadline. Well,
Speaker 5: they've been tellers, you know, most of the season getting
Speaker 5: rid of their guys. So let's find out what Will
Speaker 5: Levis is because they're gonna be picking at the top
Speaker 5: end of the draft.
Speaker 3: So I think that's where they are right now.
Speaker 1: I actually heard, you know, Callahan said that out right,
Speaker 1: that this season is about getting a good evaluation and
Speaker 1: Levis is interesting. They weren't they weren't saying that initially,
Speaker 1: but it makes sense. I thought Mason Rudolph helped them
Speaker 1: a little, but it was only so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how did that work out? Yeah?
Speaker 1: They were just they were still extremely sloppy. This is
Speaker 1: one team that beats itself versus a team that doesn't.
Speaker 1: The one thing the Titans do well is they stuffed
Speaker 1: the running game. They're great at run stuff's negative, forcing
Speaker 1: negative runs. So this is another week to just just
Speaker 1: let the Chargers cook, let Herbert throw the ball.
Speaker 3: The gust bus. The gust bus is getting healthy for
Speaker 3: the Chargers too.
Speaker 2: It'll be coming back, although I'd like to see Comani
Speaker 2: Vidal get some more, you know, a little personal bias there.
Speaker 2: Bringing us to our last game, the Denver Broncos going
Speaker 2: to Kansas City, where the defending Super Bowl champs just
Speaker 2: won in over time against Baker Mayfield and company. They
Speaker 2: are eight point favorites. Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, and Melanie
Speaker 2: Collins on the call, we mentioned nukes, remember the Titans celebration.
Speaker 2: Travis Kelce goes huge to get sixteen targets. You said
Speaker 2: the Homes and the Chiefs. We're gonna have an offensive explosion,
Speaker 2: Greg you were correct. You've said last week that the
Speaker 2: Broncos defense might get exposed. You were correct. Let's go
Speaker 2: what happens in this game, Greg, because you know both
Speaker 2: of these teams.
Speaker 4: I think that Denver is gonna keep it close. Yes,
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna cover. I look at the two
Speaker 1: matches matchups last year. I think they can be instructive.
Speaker 1: It was early in the season that the Chiefs and
Speaker 1: Broncos played, when the Chiefs were struggling last year, but
Speaker 1: Vance Joseph, who was running this defense, only gave up
Speaker 1: fourteen points per game in those two matchups. The second
Speaker 1: one wasn't close. The Broncos actually won easily. Like that's
Speaker 1: kind of been memory hold for me, and so I
Speaker 1: think this is a defense that could give them some issues.
Speaker 1: I'm curious how bon Nicks is going to play in
Speaker 1: this spot against a really good defense. That's obviously where
Speaker 1: it could go sideways. But I tend to think short
Speaker 1: week for the Chiefs coming off an overtime game, their
Speaker 1: offense was on the field for eighty three plays, and
Speaker 1: so I think the Broncos could ugly it up and
Speaker 1: it'll be a close game in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 5: I have one hundred percent with you. And this is
Speaker 5: after seeing the Broncos against the Ravens. Like you look
Speaker 5: at the score and you're like, the Ravens just kicked
Speaker 5: them up and down the field. At the end of
Speaker 5: the first half, Boon Knicks was driving Denver down the field,
Speaker 5: actually threw a touchdown pass called back on holding. He
Speaker 5: hits that pass, it's seventeen to fourteen going into the half.
Speaker 5: Instead they have to settle for a field goal. Three
Speaker 5: plays later, Lamar hit say Flowers, it's twenty four to ten.
Speaker 3: Right. That swing changed everything in that ball game because
Speaker 3: bo Nix was moving the ball.
Speaker 5: He can run, he can hit the drive throws, you know,
Speaker 5: he spreads the ball out. He's making very good decisions.
Speaker 5: They're not gonna be able to run the ball very
Speaker 5: much against Kansas City and the defense that was just
Speaker 5: they got Lamard, right, Okay, do we run blitz, which
Speaker 5: is what they did. They ran blitz to try to
Speaker 5: stop Derek Henry, who didn't have much going in the
Speaker 5: first half. So Lamar was popping explosive play after explosive play.
Speaker 5: I mean they probably had eight or nine twenty plus
Speaker 5: yard receptions right there. But then the second half, Denver
Speaker 5: backed off and then it was a Derrick Henry show.
Speaker 5: I think in a game like this, and this is
Speaker 5: what I like about Kansas City moving forward again, I
Speaker 5: think Denver it's gonna be closer in the eighth. But
Speaker 5: the fact that kriem Hunt and the way they ran
Speaker 5: the ball against Tampa's front, against Vave and those guys,
Speaker 5: that's why everybody, you know, we kept we keep asking when.
Speaker 3: Is Kansas City gonna lose?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean they're gonna lose at some point, but
Speaker 5: the fact now that they are mashing in the run
Speaker 5: game when they want to is just another thing to
Speaker 5: add to the to the mix.
Speaker 2: You just you imagine the loss being in a slog game.
Speaker 2: Somebody tips a past the lone of scrimmage, because right
Speaker 2: now it's possession, possession, third down conversion, third down conversion.
Speaker 2: It's it's like a grind out final two minutes of
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Every single time the Chiefs have the
Speaker 2: ball on offense, where this Denver Broncos team has been
Speaker 2: very very good at keeping things in front of them
Speaker 2: making tackles. They've only missed twelve point three percent of
Speaker 2: their tackles this season and a lot of those missed
Speaker 2: tackles because they missed thirteen against King Henry last week,
Speaker 2: which happens sometimes in decisions. You got os on eight
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, this six three, two
Speaker 2: hundred and six run is running four to four away
Speaker 2: from you, and so like they just have to do
Speaker 2: that enough, stay on the field, maybe get their hands
Speaker 2: on the ball, because otherwise it's gonna be difficult. You
Speaker 2: can't run the ball in between the tackles against the
Speaker 2: Chiefs right now, you just can't do it. Nobody's having
Speaker 2: success with it, and so it's all on Bo's shoulders
Speaker 2: to just run around where Drew Trankill is tracking everybody.
Speaker 3: But it's very tough.
Speaker 1: Nicks is playing better. I think it's a good test
Speaker 1: for him. He's got a couple against some better defenses,
Speaker 1: because I think he's better than he was the first
Speaker 1: three or four weeks. Sure, you look at the season
Speaker 1: long drop back numbers, they're pretty rough for them, but
Speaker 1: I think just eyeball tests and the numbers, he's gotten better.
Speaker 1: But this will be a test of how much better.
Speaker 1: I think both quarterbacks are playing better now. They're obviously
Speaker 1: in different stratospheres as players, but I think Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: has settled into this season and is playing his best
Speaker 1: ball now of the season coming into this game, and
Speaker 1: it'll need to. As I mentioned, it's a good Broncos defense.
Speaker 1: They're a prideful group. I don't think they're gonna want
Speaker 1: to get waxed again. And I think we're gonna get
Speaker 1: a fun.
Speaker 5: And moan like Sirtan will sit there and stick on
Speaker 5: Kelsey in certain situations. He will stick you know, on Dave.
Speaker 5: You're worthy in certain situations or d Hop. I mean
Speaker 5: when you've got somebody who can make you play ten
Speaker 5: on ten that also helps.
Speaker 1: Okay, So we've reached the end of the road for
Speaker 1: the Week ten Preview ten.
Speaker 4: How about that. We're getting through it.
Speaker 1: We've also reached the end of the road for our
Speaker 1: friend Randy Chobbs his time at the NFL. So, Randy,
Speaker 1: I want you to come on in here. I want
Speaker 1: you to be able to say a couple of words,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to say a couple of words about you.
Speaker 1: First of all, we're presenting you with a go away
Speaker 1: present here. We got the Dodgers with the patch on
Speaker 1: and the Freddie Freeman.
Speaker 4: Pretty cool.
Speaker 1: I'm like, off camera like a real, real pro. You
Speaker 1: can put on a microphone here, Randy while I talk
Speaker 1: about you. When we were starting NFL Daily in July,
Speaker 1: and obviously Randy helped out a ton and was a
Speaker 1: big ass for the Round the NFL podcast. When I
Speaker 1: was starting NFL Daily out of nowhere essentially in late July,
Speaker 1: we rush that thing. Eric is on his paternity leave
Speaker 1: and enjoying a great and deserved time with his baby
Speaker 1: and his wife, and Randy was there with me to
Speaker 1: help launch this show. And no matter what time of day,
Speaker 1: what we needed to get done, if it's late, if
Speaker 1: it's early, whoever we need to get Randy was always
Speaker 1: I got you. And that's what he's been like for
Speaker 1: a couple of years at this company. I think it's
Speaker 1: been three now that you've been with us and helping
Speaker 1: out and more than anything, just a great human, a
Speaker 1: great dude that ups the vibes. We're talking about sad vibes. Yes,
Speaker 1: we were talking about bad vibes on certain teams earlier.
Speaker 1: If you add Randy Chavs to the mix, the vibes
Speaker 1: immediately improve. He's someone that you add to the locker
Speaker 1: room to get the good feelings so we will miss you, Randy,
Speaker 1: but we also.
Speaker 4: Want to congratulate you.
Speaker 1: You're going to be producing some big time podcast as elsewhere,
Speaker 1: and more than anything, you're getting healthcare.
Speaker 4: So multi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been. It's been.
Speaker 6: Honestly, it's it's crazy, you know, to making the jump
Speaker 6: here from where I came from originally kind of like
Speaker 6: being super intimidated coming into this and just meeting a
Speaker 6: lot of great people and learning from a lot of
Speaker 6: great people, and and uh, you know, leaving here with friends,
Speaker 6: leaving here with the new feeling of confidence, not necessarily
Speaker 6: feeling too small for any room. You know this, And
Speaker 6: I owed a lot to you know, people like you, Claybond,
Speaker 6: why everyone in this building who've given me just so
Speaker 6: much great knowledge, And I really, man, it's it's hard
Speaker 6: to put into words how how much this place and
Speaker 6: the people here mean to me so well.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Randy, always part of the family, always certainly
Speaker 1: part of this show. I mean it was you you
Speaker 1: with me launching it. And uh, obviously we wish you
Speaker 1: well and thank you. Yes, that's it for the Randy
Speaker 1: Shavez era on NFL Daily.
Speaker 6: Here, let's hold this, Let's hold us like you're setting like.
Speaker 1: So you are, you are, You're holding the championship Dodgers
Speaker 1: jersey and maybe maybe your packers, maybe the good luck
Speaker 1: for your packers.
Speaker 4: It'll be coming next.
Speaker 6: I hope so, I hope so. But thank you so much, guys.
Speaker 6: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, Thanks to Randy obviously, thanks to
Speaker 1: Steve Patrick Eric who is always holding it down behind
Speaker 1: the glass as well. That's it for our Week ten preview.
Speaker 1: We'll be back Thursday night. Nick Westling will be joining
Speaker 1: me to recap Raven's Bengals.
Speaker 4: Really looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: And yeah, when Randy Schaviz is getting dental, you know
Speaker 1: football is back