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Speaker 1: To starts and sits.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's it for week five. Hit Mike up

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Speaker 3: at Swollen. Don't find me at Dan Bayer on Fox.

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Speaker 3: And the executive producer is Ian Roddy, but him at

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Speaker 3: Ian Roddy underscore check in with how we did with

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Speaker 3: our picks throughout five and not only line and Ian's

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Speaker 3: but obviously Mike's rankings, and I'll plays cold source and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: But a lot of football like this weekend Sunday, a long,

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Speaker 3: long day capped off by the Monday nighter in Kansas

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Speaker 3: City with the Chiefs ended up popping the Saints, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know, I felt like we went back into

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Speaker 3: a time machine because Travis Kelce was effective again. Kareem

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Speaker 3: the Royals are winning playoff games. So I don't know

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Speaker 3: what is happening in some bizarro world, but that's what

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Speaker 3: happened on Monday night.

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Speaker 1: I tried to make it. You know, somewhere in the

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Speaker 1: happiness of the larger Kansas City area, a lot of

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Speaker 1: folks got barbecue, so you got the hat trick. Everybody.

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Speaker 1: Wait ho, I'm happy, fed and contented, but yeah, just

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Speaker 1: a crazy convergence Kareem Hunt. Everything old is New again.

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Speaker 1: Twenty seven carries one hundred and two yards against the Saints. Look,

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Speaker 1: we talked about it a bonche Smith and I on

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Speaker 1: our show recapping it all encapsulated here quickly the idea

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Speaker 1: that you know, it's not the Chiefs that you loved

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Speaker 1: or hated, but they still win, so I guess you

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Speaker 1: have to hate them somewhat, but you don't have all

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Speaker 1: the you know, the fire and forty point performances in barrage.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes is no better than a high end QB

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Speaker 1: which is sad for those that drafted him as a

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Speaker 1: so Mahome should have had the touchdown that ends up

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Speaker 1: becoming a pick, a thick pick, as Harlan put it

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Speaker 1: backup dancer for Taylor Swift. Then they cliched that loop,

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Speaker 3: I didn't take too much from it, except that the

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Speaker 3: Kareem Hunt situation is just very unique to me. The

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Speaker 1: No, that doesn't matter. Yeah, like they ground out forty

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Speaker 4: And exactly get twenty seven carries.

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Speaker 3: And I think that they're also like, let's use Kareem

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I hate to like to bring up Clyde

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Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, right, I mean, that's gonna be one of

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be honest, My Fantasy week wasn't the greatest

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Speaker 3: But it wasn't enough about that because you guys don't

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Speaker 4: Do, I do, nobody should. Well, that's very very nice

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Speaker 3: I our business is unique in the way of where

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Speaker 4: I had zero desire to really lock in.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you just take it all in, though, Dan,

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Speaker 3: No, no, And that's I think a lot of teams

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Speaker 3: It truly is, and it's so much of a mess

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Speaker 4: Three one loss teams.

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Speaker 1: Stand No, but that's just it, right. So like I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all three of the teams that I pick.

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Speaker 3: Mike tries to solve the riddle that is the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 3: I'll take the other side. I think I know what

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Speaker 3: answer all of those topics in so much more coming

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Speaker 3: You had a problem with the Bills chucking it downfield

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Speaker 1: It's tough, right, It's one of those where you're trying

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Speaker 1: like again, I like the aggressiveness to a point, but

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Speaker 1: Taking shots down field and trying to go deep and

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Speaker 1: all hate the overtime rules. I get it, coin flips

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Speaker 3: Not too long after completely getting his bell rung, and

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Speaker 3: But that's a.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but here's my thinking. They felt that they could

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Speaker 3: Would and it would have been different if the Texans

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Speaker 2: Do is just right.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you got me sold Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Don't know, just it didn't work out. It almost did,

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Speaker 1: Yes, it it's just go ahead, Dan.

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Speaker 4: They shouldn't have been in the game anyway. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: But I think that's the other part of it though, Dan,

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Speaker 3: If you have a blocked kick, Seattle can run it

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Speaker 3: They just blocked a field goal and ran it back

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Speaker 3: The way, to lose my good by the way, the

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Speaker 1: Ers to a degree of you know, how much are

434
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 1: you looking ahead, you know to the Thursday game and

435
00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: what you need to be able to do there, because

436
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,119
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of hand ringing after the forty

437
00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:22,439
Speaker 1: nine Ers lost to the Cardinals as well. But it

438
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 1: made for some interesting Fantasy Final final scores and a

439
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: bit of chaos in Week five, for sure.

440
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,360
Speaker 3: What do you what do you think the Raiders end

441
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:35,240
Speaker 3: up doing at quarterback for the I guess near future.

442
00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: I think you don't have any choice. You go to

443
00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 1: O'Connell like Minshew had had his run yep, and you

444
00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: play it out like it's it's a mess there quite obviously.

445
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,639
Speaker 1: I don't think enough's being made of the fact of

446
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 1: and I know he's in the pros, much like you

447
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 1: know Jim Harbaugh. But what Pierce at Arizona State at

448
00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: the tweet or Instagram post, I should say that we

449
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:03,160
Speaker 1: talked to out last week on the podcast and all

450
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,800
Speaker 1: of that. Devanta Adams is still a member of this

451
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:11,440
Speaker 1: team as we as we record this on a Monday.

452
00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 4: Night am Eastern time, Pacific tide.

453
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: That's still hanging there and players still have to answer

454
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: questions about him and their roles and whatever else, and

455
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 1: they have no control over any of this garbage. Like

456
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,640
Speaker 1: I've said on record many times, like I don't want any.

457
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 4: Part of him.

458
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:37,280
Speaker 1: Sure right, declining guy, Clearly he's in the me phase

459
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,000
Speaker 1: of things with the myriad interviews and everything else. I

460
00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:43,680
Speaker 1: know Kay Adams was supposed to have him on her

461
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 1: show on Tuesday that I guess is canceled. So maybe

462
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: we'll actually get some movement, or maybe someone finally told him, hey,

463
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:54,239
Speaker 1: stop doing interviews. Yeah, let's let's figure this out.

464
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 4: Can I tell you?

465
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 3: The one thing about that that I thought was interesting

466
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 3: of the cancelation of that interview sure was the news

467
00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 3: during the Chief Saints game. Yeah, and so I'm like, Okay,

468
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,199
Speaker 3: I don't think the Raiders are going to do a

469
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 3: deal with the Chiefs, but we know Derek Carr and

470
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 3: the connection with the Saints. I wondered if that was

471
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 3: maybe why this deal hasn't been done because the Saints

472
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,560
Speaker 3: were playing on Monday night.

473
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: And we'll see how it played out.

474
00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, or just even the and now you know who

475
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 3: knows that Derek with Derek Carr's situation, but maybe that

476
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: there was a deal They're like, Okay, we'll just wait

477
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,400
Speaker 3: till after the game. We'll do it on the off

478
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 3: day when we get back and do a trade. I

479
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,160
Speaker 3: wondered at that point if that was maybe a reason

480
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: why that maybe the Saints were going to end up

481
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 3: being the destination. The outside shot would have been Kansas City.

482
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,640
Speaker 3: But I just I don't care how bad the Raiders

483
00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 3: want to get rid of them. I just don't think

484
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 3: you can trade him to Kansas City.

485
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: No, I don't. I think you're one hundred percent right.

486
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: The other I saw, I forget who it was, but

487
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Twitter thread started to become Derek Carr

488
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: leaving this game playing chess, DeVante Adams coming to the

489
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 1: rescue soon because outside of the big play to Shakir,

490
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean there there wasn't a whole lot of I'm

491
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: not to Shakir to Shaheed. There wasn't a whole lot

492
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: of look going on for that offense, and weeks one

493
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 1: and two are a distant memory for the Saints at

494
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: this point in terms of the workings of this offense

495
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: and what they're able to do. You know, say nothing

496
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,440
Speaker 1: and then take nothing away from the Chiefs defense, for sure,

497
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, the timing is interesting, and it's

498
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: all a question of do you think you can get

499
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:33,560
Speaker 1: through where he just wants to play football for twelve weeks.

500
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can, but I just don't know

501
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 3: where that would be. I don't think he's a malcontent

502
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,159
Speaker 3: by any means. Devanta Adams is a great guy. But

503
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 3: he also went to Las Vegas, and everything that's there

504
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: that the reason that he went there is gone except

505
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 3: the contract that he said that said I'm going to

506
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 3: play for you for X amount of years.

507
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,199
Speaker 1: Because that because I mean that was that was a

508
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: pretty sizable contract. I mean, as much as we can

509
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,479
Speaker 1: talk about how much he wanted to go play with

510
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: his old buddy Derek Carr, I mean that that contract

511
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: probably spoke a lot more than then the Hey, I

512
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: get to reunite with my buddy. But certainly the organization

513
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: has changed quite a bit in a short amount of

514
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: time for him, as as you look at and then

515
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:24,360
Speaker 1: it becomes the the discussion of all right, thirty plus

516
00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: year old receiver hamstring injury. And now we start and

517
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 1: I always hate the well, we have to speculate how

518
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: injured he is. But we've we've talked to plenty of

519
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: pros and X pros in our field here, Dan that

520
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 1: admit to you know, the lower back that ain't showing

521
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 1: up on an X ray being an issue for load

522
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: management or some of these things where it's like, yeah, no,

523
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 1: it's a bit, you know, it's still still not right,

524
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: still a little tender. So how much is you know,

525
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: real versus imagined in all of this? And and you know,

526
00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: Will how quickly does he ramp back up to where

527
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: or hey, you've got them back at one hundred percent capacity.

528
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 3: The question is in Indianapolis is how quickly do you

529
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 3: turn back to Joe Flacco if things aren't working with

530
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson? Because Shane steike And on Monday gave Richardson

531
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 3: vote of confidence saying that when Anthony Richardson is fully

532
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 3: healthy that he will be the starting quarterback of the

533
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 3: Indianapolis Colts. But despite the loss against Jacksonville, Joe Flacco

534
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: was great over three hundred yards passing three touchdowns, and

535
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 3: I just it's a head scratcher to me. I would

536
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: stick with Flacco. It's a second straight year you had

537
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 3: a veteran come in and your offense has been better.

538
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 3: I'd know that there's the investment to Anthony Richardson, but

539
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: right now, I wouldn't mess with this. Why not squeeze

540
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: the orange that you've got with Joe Flacco and get

541
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 3: as much juice as you can out of it.

542
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know the Cleveland Browns wish they'd been a

543
00:27:54,160 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 1: little more resolute in their decision making. Hey, we don't

544
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 1: care if Deshaun doesn't like this, because perhaps maybe the

545
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: Browns aren't in complete free fall as they are right now.

546
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 1: But yeah, in Indianapolis, I find it hard to not

547
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: just run with Joe Flacco, right, Anthony Richardson, I get

548
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,119
Speaker 1: at the rookie and bringing him along. Can he learn

549
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,639
Speaker 1: you know, on the bench, you know, and the temperament,

550
00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,960
Speaker 1: Like I know, we always have these arguments of you

551
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: may lose him. Well, if you lose him because A

552
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: he's hurt, B the other guy is better, then he's

553
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: not your guy. Then he's not your guy. And you

554
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: know it's not on Richardson, And it's just my general

555
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: philosophy on this stuff of the professionals. Right if right

556
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: now you've got a better chance to win, and the

557
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: team rallies around Flackel and clearly spreads the ball around

558
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: and they get the best of everything. I mean, look

559
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: this week, they didn't have Jonathan Taylor and they still

560
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: put up those points and those offensive drives and everything

561
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: that you saw. I don't know, Like, if you're trying

562
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: to win, Flacco gives you the better chance to win, period.

563
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: I think the situations are different than other guys who

564
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 3: are drafted Bryce Young obviously number one, CJ. Strouds and

565
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 3: trenched in Houston. But I think it's a little different

566
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: with Richardson, where I think you could, because of his

567
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 3: inexperience coming into the pro game, that you could still

568
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 3: treat him like Jordan Love, like you could have him

569
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 3: for another three years.

570
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 1: Again, I let him.

571
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: Joe Flacco's not going to be in your team for

572
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: three years. Let use that time to try to figure

573
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: it out. You don't have to make the answer of

574
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson right now. If you've got at least a

575
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: suitable guy to play in Joe Flacco. It's kind of

576
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 3: it's the Packers light, like Aaron Rodgers was an MVP,

577
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 3: so there was no rush to sit there and play

578
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: Jordan Love.

579
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just a big believer. If your guy's not ready,

580
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,840
Speaker 1: you're guys not ready. Right, Yeah, I don't care if

581
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: he's drafted first all and I get it, there's a

582
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: big bonus check that gets paid and expectations of a city,

583
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 1: But if your team is still needing to be built around,

584
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: like Kayleb Williams came into a team that was pretty good.

585
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah right, you've got a defense that's given up twenty

586
00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: points or fewer and what ten straight games? Now ever

587
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: since the Montes sweat deal and Iberflu's doing more on

588
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 1: that side of the ball, and you know, I still

589
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: want to know what happened to that guy.

590
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 4: But Alan Williams still still all.

591
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: These these these weeks later, still no answers. But you've

592
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 1: got a good DC there now, were working with eb loose, right,

593
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: So you've got that working and you brought you made

594
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: a big investment. They should have invested more on the

595
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 1: offensive line. But you've got skilled position players, so him

596
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: playing it makes sense. For Jaden Daniels, you saw that

597
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: there's personnel on the offense, not that you'd expect these

598
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: heights from him, but that he was going to be

599
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: put in a position and where for Cliff Kingsbury and company,

600
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: you could put him into positions where he'd be able

601
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: to be solid or better. Race Young didn't have that, right,

602
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: he didn't have that, Like there was nothing in that

603
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,239
Speaker 1: infrastructure to make you believe he was anything other than

604
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: being thrown to the Wolves. And we've had plenty of

605
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: other circumstances just like that to where like, you know,

606
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: look at what Drake May. I mean, we watched him

607
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: get obliterated in those few minutes he played against the Jets.

608
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: Was there any point in putting in that game unless

609
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett couldn't answer the bell for the next possession?

610
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 1: And the discussion about May becoming that guy now is

611
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: silly to me, Like there's nothing there for him to

612
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: build off of other than just saying, all right, I

613
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: checked a box and I started in an NFL game.

614
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,600
Speaker 1: I don't know where there's a win to be had there.

615
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: I'll just I'll just say this about the Colts because

616
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 3: in fantasy we look at schedules, and I even think

617
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 3: overall you look at schedules. So the Colts are sitting

618
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 3: there coming off of a tough loss to Jacksonville and

619
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 3: near two and three on the season. Well, you have

620
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: the Titans coming up in Week six, and then you

621
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: have the Dolphins and then you have the Texans in

622
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 3: a rivalry game, so you have two games that are winnable,

623
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 3: so you could be four and three, and after the

624
00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Texans game, you've got the Vikings, the Bills, the Jets,

625
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 3: the Lions. Who gives you the better chance to win

626
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 3: a game out of that stretch because you're going to

627
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 3: have to if you want to be a playoff team,

628
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to win one of those four games.

629
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 3: I don't think it's Anthony richards You can put the

630
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 3: Texans in there as well. You're going to have to

631
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 3: win at least one of those five games to have

632
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: any chance at saying all right, here we are. We've

633
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 3: now got five wins on the season. How do we

634
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:50,000
Speaker 3: finish this last third of the year. So is it

635
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson or is it Joe Flacco? And I think

636
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 3: that the answer is pretty simple. It's Joe Flack. I'd

637
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 3: rather have Joe Flacco as the quarterback in that stretch

638
00:32:57,640 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 3: of games than Anthony Richardson.

639
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Point about you know, quarterbacks starts college into pros. We

640
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: saw some things from Richardson and we have as a

641
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: pro in the games that he's been able to finish

642
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: those have been few and far between. Yep, right, he's

643
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: a special athlete with a cannon for an arm. But

644
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: in terms of being able to finish and give you

645
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 1: the consistency to get you to the winner circle consistently,

646
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 1: it's Flacco all day long. And you saw how that

647
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 1: offense responded again, missing Jonathan Taylor, a guy that usually

648
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: carries the ball twenty to twenty five times, and having

649
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Speaker 1: to mix and match with peers and get Pittman involved

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Speaker 1: and everything else that they had to do. He was

651
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Speaker 1: able to do it and do it well. Yeah, you

652
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Speaker 1: take the l but I think you see far better

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Speaker 1: results on a week to week basis to where you're

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Speaker 1: at least in a position to win.

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Speaker 3: He's Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer. Mike's got some waiver

656
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Speaker 3: wire pickups. I may throw in a name as well.

657
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Speaker 3: We'll check in how Ian streaming defenses is defenses were

658
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Speaker 3: this past week. You know, my survivor stunk, so we'll

659
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Speaker 3: go over that, plus so much more to get to.

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Speaker 3: He's Mike Carmon. I'm Dan Bayer. This as I want

661
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Speaker 3: your flex Mike Scott some waiver wire pickups heading into

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Speaker 3: week six, but we do some report card checking. He's

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Speaker 3: Mike Carmon, I'm Dan Byer. The executive producer is Ian Roddy.

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Speaker 3: This is I want your flex and run of applause

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Speaker 3: from Mike Carmen. Lamar Jackson was his number one quarterback

666
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Speaker 3: and boy did he show it against the Cincinnati Bengals.

667
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow had himself quite a day as well in

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Speaker 3: that contest, but Lamar showed up and showed well.

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Speaker 4: You also had.

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Speaker 3: Jamar Chase as one of your top five. Javonte Williams

671
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Speaker 3: was a Raider crusher, didn't get into the end zone,

672
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Speaker 3: but was active in the in the passing game and

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Speaker 3: on the ground. Trey Sermon got into the end zone

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Speaker 3: for the Colts. So Trevor Lawrence, Yeah, Trevor Lawrence as

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Speaker 3: a ninja played Mike Carmon in week.

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Speaker 1: Five and Rogers and Darnald the Stink. Yes, I to

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Speaker 1: take my victory lap. Rogers finishing what eighteenth and well

678
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Speaker 1: say Sam was down at number twenty seven.

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Speaker 4: Now Rogers again was my oasis song.

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Speaker 3: And the Oasis song for week five was what's the

681
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Speaker 3: story Morning Glory? And that on the morning game of

682
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Speaker 3: Jets Vikings and I'll tell you what he was driving down.

683
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Speaker 3: All I said was Aaron Rodgers three touchdown passes. That's

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Speaker 3: that's what I was I was hoping for. I didn't

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Speaker 3: know what we would get yards yards wise, guys, But

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Speaker 3: I don't know if you noticed Aaron Rodgers through three

687
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Speaker 3: touchdown passes. One of them was to Minnesota. But still, guys,

688
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Speaker 3: I'm taking it as the win.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: It may have gone into Andrew Van Ginkell's hands, but hey,

691
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Speaker 3: the other two were Jets touchdowns, So I am taking

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Speaker 3: that as a win.

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Speaker 4: On my Oasis song.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you take the w thereat and we get to

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Speaker 1: say Van Ginkel, which is always a win.

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Speaker 3: I hit points of Palooza Colts Jaguars was seventy one

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Speaker 3: one point of fare. Even though that the Ravens Bengals

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Speaker 3: was a little bit higher, it was still a higher spread.

699
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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna take the victory on that. But once

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Speaker 3: again I lost survivor. I said to take the Seahawks

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Speaker 3: and they failed me. But Ian said to take the

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Speaker 3: Seahawks as a streaming defense, and that did not fail Ian.

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Speaker 1: No, it did not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the Seahawks were pretty good. Them and the Packers

705
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Speaker 5: were my two streaming defenses of the week. That I

706
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Speaker 5: gave you guys, and you know, the Seahawks ended with

707
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Speaker 5: that Ray Shawn Jenkins touchdown, which was big. I've, you know,

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Speaker 5: obviously cheering as I saw that happening, because I'm in

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Speaker 5: this with you guys.

710
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Speaker 1: Like that's like when I when I give.

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Speaker 5: These streaming defenses, I'm using.

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Speaker 1: Them as well.

713
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Speaker 5: So if if it's a bad pick, I suffer as well.

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Speaker 1: If it's a good pick, I celebrate with you.

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Speaker 3: Well, you will come to realize on how much you

716
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Speaker 3: actually cheer for your advice that you give people, because

717
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: there is no worse guilt feeling than telling someone to

718
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Speaker 3: bench someone or start someone and they do the exact opposite.

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Speaker 3: In fact, our buddy Scott who listens to the pod

720
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Speaker 3: and we'll always check in. I think we let's help

721
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Speaker 3: Scott get to a Fantasy Championship. Last year he asked

722
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Speaker 3: me about Tank Bigsby. He had three guys he was

723
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 3: just as Hill, Tink Bigsby, and uh Xavier Laget from

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Speaker 3: the Carolina Panthers. And I said, I like I go,

725
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Speaker 3: I like him in the order of Laguet, Hill and Bigsby.

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Speaker 4: But I also said, I wonder.

727
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Speaker 3: If Bigsby's in for a big week this week because

728
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Speaker 3: it was my points at Palooza that may not have

729
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Speaker 3: been the most the most strongest staunchest stand, but I

730
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Speaker 3: was saying, hey, I'm kind of wondering, this may be

731
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Speaker 3: where you want to go. And so then when Bigsby's

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Speaker 3: having those you know, the day that he had against

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Speaker 3: the Colts, I'm I'm thinking, like, gosh, I hope Scott

734
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Speaker 3: played him. Gosh, you're thinking that thing. So Ian, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: welcome to the group.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, it's good. But and then and then the

737
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Speaker 5: but and both ended up well, so you know, to

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Speaker 5: that point, I had a good week in that sense.

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Speaker 5: And the Packers. The Packers were even better. They were

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Speaker 5: the first one I named. They were an interception, a fumble, recovery,

741
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Speaker 5: three sacks, love to see it, eleven fantasy points.

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Speaker 3: Cuba Hubbard keeps rolling is one of Mike's hot plays.

743
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Speaker 3: Even though the Panthers didn't have a bears. Yeah they

744
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: got they got bears, they got beared. But but Hubbard

745
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Speaker 3: got into the end zone again for Carolina. So a

746
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Speaker 3: bright spot at least for the Panthers. All right, looking

747
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Speaker 3: a hat the week six, Mike, because now there are

748
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Speaker 3: four new teams on by that'd be the Chiefs, Rams, Dolphins,

749
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Speaker 3: and Vikings who were looking at waiver wire entering this one.

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Speaker 1: Well, we get things started at the quarterback position. How

751
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Speaker 1: about a little Daniel Jones going up against the Cincinnati Bengals.

752
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 1: I know this is folks shaking their head, but he's

753
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Speaker 1: throwing multiple touchdown passes three of the last four weeks

754
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Speaker 1: in theory gets neighbors back coming off of the concussion protocol.

755
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Speaker 1: So an opportunity there. The aforementioned Joe Flacco if nothing else,

756
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 1: he needs to be rostered, I think is what we've

757
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Speaker 1: seen from the last two weeks, and then we'll it

758
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Speaker 1: from there. A lot more leagues starting to use the

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Speaker 1: two quarterbacks or the super flexes or whatever flat goes agether.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be pivotal to a couple of wins for

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Speaker 1: fantasy owners coming out of those slots. Because of Richardson's

762
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Speaker 1: injury history, I mean, we just went through it and

763
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Speaker 1: chronicled it all, so the opportunities are gonna be there

764
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Speaker 1: as well. Derek Carr will keep an eye on his status,

765
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Speaker 1: but fantasy owners have not flocked to him at all.

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Speaker 1: He's rostered only in about forty percent of leagues on

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Speaker 1: average across the big site, so potential for him to

768
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Speaker 1: make some hay Again. I know the reputation, but if

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Speaker 1: he's gonna keep chucking the ball down to Shaheed now

770
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: and again, hey, big things are gonna happen. So those

771
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Speaker 1: are the three guys that we look at at the

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Speaker 1: quarterback position, Tyrone, Tracy for the Giants. Singletary will be back,

773
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Speaker 1: but I think Tracy's done enough to say, hey, I

774
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Speaker 1: need some of that workload share for sure. Tank Bigsby

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Speaker 1: owned in only about one fifth of leagues, so he's

776
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Speaker 1: gonna be one of the top free agent acquisition budget

777
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Speaker 1: line items for this week because Etn hurt once again,

778
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Speaker 1: right if you if you've had any wagers on his

779
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: over under for total yardage, thinking, hey, this is as

780
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Speaker 1: you said. Dana points a bluesicon of opportunity and then

781
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Speaker 1: he leaves with injury, opening the door for Bigsby to

782
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Speaker 1: have a big workload once again. So you got a

783
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Speaker 1: shot there. Ty Chandler in Minnesota gets a bit of

784
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Speaker 1: a workload, so we we get him into the mix

785
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Speaker 1: on our big board of potential plays. A guy that

786
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Speaker 1: I think is a speculative play long term, Blake korm

787
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Speaker 1: just because the run game is and I don't know

788
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: how much I like Kyron Williams, but that's the one

789
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Speaker 1: thing for the Rams that seems to be working so so,

790
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Speaker 1: especially in and around the red zone area. So if

791
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 1: nothing else, the old handcuff kind of thing.

792
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Speaker 3: And the other thing is they're gonna need to run

793
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 3: the ball because they can't stop the run. They're not

794
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 3: very good and Cooper Cups should return after their bye

795
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,959
Speaker 3: week in week six, but the Coup is still out,

796
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Speaker 3: so yeah, the Rams still have a little ways to.

797
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Speaker 1: Go, still a little ways to go. They have another

798
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: option again bye weeks, so you're you're not diving to

799
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Speaker 1: them necessarily, but a guy to put on the radar

800
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Speaker 1: is Colby Parkinson. Target count has been immense the last

801
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: couple of weeks again, safety valve. Offensive line play for

802
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: the Rams not very good, which means a lot of

803
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: hot route, hot route, get the ball out and make

804
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: a play as it were, wide receiver. Everybody's already put

805
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: in their claims for Darnell Mooney, don't need to go there.

806
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,280
Speaker 1: Jalen Tolbert, Brandon Cook's probably gonna miss some extra time

807
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys, so Tolbert with a large target count

808
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks, Lazard, As much as you

809
00:41:55,640 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: may not want to go anywhere near that Jets offense,

810
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: he's got targets and he actually catches that ball. Maybe

811
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 1: that pick six for Van Ginkel never happens, sure about that.

812
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: There you go changing history like sliding doors. There you

813
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: go cinema history. Go back and watch that, Gwyneth Paltrow gem.

814
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Speaker 3: If Mike Williams understands the back shoulder throw as well,

815
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Speaker 3: you know, maybe there's an opportunity there for a third

816
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 3: touchdown to an actual jet.

817
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: But there's there's a lot going on there in New

818
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: York for sure.

819
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Speaker 3: Well, Josh downs they had twelve targets for the for

820
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Speaker 3: the Colts, since we were talking a lot about them.

821
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Speaker 1: Interesting this, Yeah, I mean are guys that are unowned

822
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Speaker 1: in mostly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I am interested in a guy that

824
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Speaker 3: I did mention earlier, Keank Coleman's it owned in about

825
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:47,320
Speaker 3: half of league's. Buffalo really missed Khalil Shakir past weekend,

826
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Speaker 3: and Josh Allen and Dalton Kincaid couldn't get on the

827
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Speaker 3: same page, So it was it was quite the struggle.

828
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Speaker 3: But on that fourth and five, they did go to

829
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Speaker 3: Kean Coleman, and even though again he stepped out of

830
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 3: bonds like eighteen times and they said he was still in.

831
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Speaker 3: But still you're wondering, at some point does he end

832
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Speaker 3: up taking over that role, because that's the reason they

833
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 3: drafted him. You know, we're seeing what Xavier Worthy is

834
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 3: doing for the Kansas City Chiefs, and we know how

835
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,040
Speaker 3: that trade went down, so maybe the Bills feel the

836
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 3: need to even get it to Kian Coleman even more.

837
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Speaker 1: Absolutely, looking at some of the target I mean you

838
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,800
Speaker 1: look at Josh Downs missed the first couple of weeks,

839
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Speaker 1: He's already had twenty six targets, which puts them in

840
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: the top fifteen. Oh wow in the National Football League

841
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: thus far in terms of target count. Go a little

842
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,919
Speaker 1: bit deeper, you know. Two chill at Well has had

843
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: a pretty big target count. Again a RAM, so he's

844
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Speaker 1: on a buy. But you know, looking at the long

845
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: long play and a lot of it comes back to

846
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Speaker 1: how quickly Cup and Nikua get back into the mix.

847
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: With Cup coming back, you know, we'll we'll watch as

848
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,319
Speaker 1: the target sharers kind of dip. Ray Ray McCloud, he

849
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Speaker 1: was a guest of the show after the Atlanta Tampa

850
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: game seven five, three, seven nine. Now week to week

851
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna wonder who's getting fed, but certainly one to watch.

852
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're getting five or more targets per game,

853
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: four out of five, you're part of the plans. So

854
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: and with Bijon Robinson owners still sad. Sorry tried to

855
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: warn you. I didn't think it would play out this way.

856
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: I thought it would still be just a workload split

857
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: with l geer as opposed to, Hey there's Kirk just

858
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: standing tall in the pocket throwing the ball fifty times again,

859
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: but hey, you take it as it comes.

860
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:36,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't argue there's when the falcons are throwing

861
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Speaker 3: the pill. And I even saw an article today it's

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Speaker 3: like the one two punch of Drake London and Darnell Mooney.

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Speaker 3: Never would have thought, but you know, I liked Ray

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Speaker 3: Ray McCloud earlier in the season as well as.

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Speaker 4: And I don't think that goes away.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, sorry, yeah, I mean that's the that's the

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Speaker 1: way it goes. It's the them's the breaks, as they say.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, it's it's funny just looking at at the

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Speaker 1: target count. I mean, you look at Darius Slayton for

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Speaker 1: the Giants four or more and in four of the

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Speaker 1: five games, including eleven in Week five. Going up against

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Speaker 1: the Cincinnati defense this week, he might be a nice

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Speaker 1: little streaming play for you off the wire because Cincinnati's

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Speaker 1: defense they lost a couple more players to injury. Uh

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Speaker 1: and and UMO has had no answer for any defense

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Speaker 1: or any offense.

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Speaker 3: I should say, Yeah, they are zero and three at

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Speaker 3: home this season. So the to the Ravens, Patriots and

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Speaker 3: the Commanders, Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 4: And the loan the lone win on the road in Carolina.

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Speaker 1: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And now you go in and you face a Giants

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Speaker 1: team that finds a bit of confidence, and wow, it's

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Speaker 1: kind of crazy, man. And that's that's a Sunday night game.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know folks are going I gotta watch

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Speaker 1: Daniel Jones in prime time.

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Speaker 3: There was a report that I heard that the that

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Speaker 3: NBC wanted to flex that out and have Commanders Ravens.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if that was. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: a rumor or report was.

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Speaker 3: But Cave, you know, and Rich brought it up, and

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Speaker 3: I thought I was surprised because I never thought that

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Speaker 3: that NBC would want to flex out of the New

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Speaker 3: York market. But anyway, Hey, we're going to get Bengals Giants,

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Speaker 3: which isn't that bad of a game.

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Speaker 4: No, it's fantasy purpose.

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Speaker 1: Yea, and the Bengals is still a lot of interest.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Yeah, all right, let her wrap it up for

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Speaker 3: our post week five wrap up. If I want your

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Speaker 3: flex hit Mike op Bantswollen Dome, Ian great stuff as always,

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Speaker 3: will do it against suon Man. Ian Roddy is our

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Speaker 3: executive producer. Find him at Ian Roddy Underscore and I'm

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Speaker 3: Dan Byer. Hit me up at Dan Byer on Fox.

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Speaker 3: I got to get ready for Thursday showed on already

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Speaker 3: with the Seahawks ticking on the San Francisco forty nine Ers,

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Speaker 3: huge game. I'll still try to draw my sorrows after

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Speaker 3: that disappointing New York Giants defeat. Well, Mike gets ready

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Speaker 3: for London as his Bears go to face the Jaguars,

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Speaker 3: and Ian's Jets are coming back.

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Speaker 4: They got a Monday that affair with the Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 4: in week six.

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Speaker 1: For the first place for Yeah, yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 3: We'll look ahead to all of that in the week

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Speaker 3: six next time here and I want your flesh m