Speaker 1: I am all in. Oh, I am all in with
Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, an I Heart radio podcast. David, How are you?
Speaker 1: How are you? David? Long time? No see. I know
Speaker 1: it's been a long time. You know, I know it's
Speaker 1: been a while. But when I read about the passing
Speaker 1: of your dad, I was so so down in the
Speaker 1: mouth about it. I reached out to Michael, but I
Speaker 1: guess he changed his number. Um, but I remember being
Speaker 1: at your house. I remember being at his house with
Speaker 1: you guys back in the nineties and he served this
Speaker 1: elaborate lunch of chicken that he could. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was just like this amazing He's an amazing host. We
Speaker 1: were laughing, you know, we tears coming out of our eyes.
Speaker 1: I mean, that was your That's how you grew up.
Speaker 1: And I got to experience one afternoon of that, and
Speaker 1: I just went away from that experience going, man, those
Speaker 1: guys are what a great family and what a great guy.
Speaker 1: Are you trying to make me crying because it's working, Yes, No,
Speaker 1: But I just you know, I hadn't seen you in
Speaker 1: so long, and I just it affected me because he
Speaker 1: was just one of the great you know, one of
Speaker 1: the great wits and one of the great talents and
Speaker 1: one of the great people that this business has ever known.
Speaker 1: I mean, he was a legend. He's a worked very fast,
Speaker 1: like you know in like Jonathan Winters, Rock Williams that
Speaker 1: you know, certain comics, but also that that like I
Speaker 1: see it as some of those people where their mind
Speaker 1: works that fast and they're so in tune. It's like
Speaker 1: they're kind of in touch with different kind of paralleled
Speaker 1: energies and universes and stuff. So you can kind of
Speaker 1: a lot of those comedians, we're not the happiest and
Speaker 1: that kind of was a little bit of what was
Speaker 1: masking that, you know. So but thank you for saying that,
Speaker 1: and I really appreciate that. That's very sweet of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's great seeing you, ladies and gentlemen. We have
Speaker 1: the David de Louise. He portrayed TJ's brother and Gilmore
Speaker 1: Girls for two episodes. First episode, season four, Episodes twenty
Speaker 1: Luke Cancierface. Second episode was season four episode twenty one,
Speaker 1: Last Week Fights this Week's Tight. He's an actor, director, producer,
Speaker 1: son of legendary actor and comedian Dom Deloise, the Great
Speaker 1: Dom Deloise actress Carol Authors. Godparents are mel Brooks and
Speaker 1: Anne Bancroft. Wow. David and his brothers Peter and Michael
Speaker 1: have carried on the legacy of their father Dom by
Speaker 1: all continuing to act. Dom has won the admiration of
Speaker 1: millions of children and parents alike. Verst portrayal of family
Speaker 1: patriarch I'm sorry. David has won the admiration of you
Speaker 1: know what's interesting? Go ahead? What's so nice that that
Speaker 1: works for me or my dad? Um on the Dignity
Speaker 1: Award winning digital channel series Wizards of Waverley plays for
Speaker 1: a hundred and six episodes plus TV movies. More recently,
Speaker 1: David has guest starred on the shows The Rookie, This
Speaker 1: Is Us, and Home Economics. Let's start out, um with
Speaker 1: some Gilmore stuff. You played TJ's brother, but also TJ's
Speaker 1: played by your your real brother, Michael, you stand by.
Speaker 1: Thank you for that introduction, and whoever wrote that made
Speaker 1: me sound very cool. We have a crap. We have
Speaker 1: quite a team over here. And the thing and I'll
Speaker 1: just say this, the thing with the Wizards regularly places
Speaker 1: Jennifer Stone and I who played Harper. We're doing We're
Speaker 1: doing what you're doing, which is the rewatch right, right, right,
Speaker 1: and it's it's it's really fun and I uh and
Speaker 1: then really enjoying it. So yeah, uh the best thing Scott.
Speaker 1: Maybe you agree or disagree, but when you're an actor
Speaker 1: and someone calls you and says we want you to
Speaker 1: work and you don't have to audition the best, that's
Speaker 1: really good. Yeah. So when I got that call to
Speaker 1: be Michael's brother on the show, I was like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, that's so awesome. I can't wait to do that.
Speaker 1: And um, I'll let you ask questions, but I have
Speaker 1: stuff that I want to share with you. Uh So,
Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna get into your
Speaker 1: podcast because it's so similar to this. No no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I don't even talk about no, no, we are going
Speaker 1: to talk about it, but we're gonna let's let's do
Speaker 1: some Gilmore stuff. Did Michael suggest you right away to
Speaker 1: join him on set? Was that how it went? Now?
Speaker 1: You know what, I'll tell you this A lot of
Speaker 1: times when you know when your family is in the business,
Speaker 1: like when my brothers were doing SeaQuest, they brought me
Speaker 1: and my dad on and we did a art right.
Speaker 1: I actually did a part, a small part on twenty
Speaker 1: one jumps to it with my brother Peter and Johnny Depp.
Speaker 1: Hold on, it just dropped the name um and and
Speaker 1: on on Third Rock from the Sun. Both Michael and
Speaker 1: Peter and my dad played my family on that. So
Speaker 1: it just as kind of happens, like if there's a
Speaker 1: DeLuise brother. Michael and I played brothers. On Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: There was a show called Muslie. Yeah and Yeah there was.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Michael said to you guys like, uh,
Speaker 1: my brother David can do it, you know, or just
Speaker 1: the kind of came up. But to get that call
Speaker 1: was so awesome because listen, I'm just gonna fan out
Speaker 1: a little bit. I love this show so much. Um
Speaker 1: And and I had I don't know if you know this,
Speaker 1: but I had done a pilot. I had worked with
Speaker 1: Lauren or we were we were married. We got married
Speaker 1: on this show. Um there's not a happy end by
Speaker 1: the way. Um but it was called Townies, Ron Livingston,
Speaker 1: Jenna Elfman, Uh uh pretty and pink. What's the Molly ring?
Speaker 1: Molly Ring? One? Yes, exactly me and and Lauren and
Speaker 1: I had to kiss her. It was like one of
Speaker 1: my first kisses. Like, but I was gonna say it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, but then uh, it went from uh from
Speaker 1: the pilot to the series and I was not optioned.
Speaker 1: I was replaced by Bill Burr because it was um.
Speaker 1: There were a lot of accents. It was Boston accent,
Speaker 1: which is I don't know if you can do that.
Speaker 1: It was tough, but I was I was let go.
Speaker 1: But then I got to see Lauren again and worked
Speaker 1: with you guys, so I was really excited to do that.
Speaker 1: Oh that's great. You guys stick together as a family.
Speaker 1: That's great. One one guy doesn't see the whole family
Speaker 1: comes in. But if you're a producer on a series
Speaker 1: and you've hired a day Louise, you'd kind of say
Speaker 1: yes to the rest of them. Sure, bring him. You're
Speaker 1: not gonna lose, you know. It's like that's a good
Speaker 1: that's a good thing. So you too, You You and
Speaker 1: Michael look so similar. Do you guys ever get mixed
Speaker 1: up when you're going for roles? Do you ever get
Speaker 1: confused that way? To Cassie, just mix you up. I
Speaker 1: don't know about mix this up. But I did an
Speaker 1: episode of CSI Miami and I pretty much was dead.
Speaker 1: I was the killer. I you know, I'm tuning my
Speaker 1: horn for a second. I was on all three U
Speaker 1: c sis. I was the murderer, the red herring and
Speaker 1: got the killed, I got killed the victim and Carusoe
Speaker 1: is there. I don't know if you worked with him.
Speaker 1: I have, I did that show. Yeah, okay, so you know,
Speaker 1: so he's very into his own thing, like you don't.
Speaker 1: You don't mess around like he's there, he's doing his thing.
Speaker 1: And then he goes. But he came up to me
Speaker 1: and he goes, I love your work. Very talented. Now
Speaker 1: I said thank you, of course, But in my mind
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, he thinks I'm my brother Michael,
Speaker 1: Michael Dennis Brand's son on nypde Blue and and and
Speaker 1: also there was something else like I hadn't really kind
Speaker 1: of I don't know. I don't even remember when it was.
Speaker 1: But I didn't feel like I had hit my stride.
Speaker 1: So I thought that he thought that I was my
Speaker 1: brother Michael, you know, which is so silly. And if
Speaker 1: I may, and I know I'm talking a lot. I
Speaker 1: had a look coffee. But I think I was very
Speaker 1: similar to my dad. And then my brother Peter, my
Speaker 1: oldest brother, is kind of a mixture of my dad,
Speaker 1: and mom and then Michael, who happened to be born
Speaker 1: on my mom's birthday. Is very I just see a
Speaker 1: lot of my mom in the hand and his face.
Speaker 1: And my oldest daughter was born on the same day.
Speaker 1: Three generations one day is really really crazy. That's wild. Yeah. Wow.
Speaker 1: So you know what, um, what was it like growing
Speaker 1: up in that household? Amazing, so much fun? Loud if
Speaker 1: you weren't loud, I mean you were there, you know
Speaker 1: you said that. By the way, was every Tuesday, every Sunday,
Speaker 1: you know, Carl Reiner or did Van Dyke, or Bert
Speaker 1: or Ricardo Montavon or the Brooks is Mala man or
Speaker 1: I mean Joe's Journey. The list is long. And I
Speaker 1: got so lucky or Gene Wilder was it was such
Speaker 1: a wonderful you know, worked all the people that my
Speaker 1: dad worked with became his friends because he had no choice,
Speaker 1: he had to be his friend, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: horrible and and it was it was a great experience.
Speaker 1: I got so lucky to be around and and my
Speaker 1: and my mom who was emblazing saddles and did the
Speaker 1: Sunshine Boys and Broadway and it was you know, she
Speaker 1: you know, kind of kind of gave that up to
Speaker 1: raise me and my brothers. We had very involved She
Speaker 1: was in the PTA and my mom was just so
Speaker 1: wonderful and I I share this with people that that
Speaker 1: she would say to me, you have a gift. You're
Speaker 1: you're a wonderful person. And she would say that to people,
Speaker 1: and whenever you left or go to an audition or something,
Speaker 1: she would say, give your gift. You know, it's just
Speaker 1: you know, amazing. So yeah, it was fun. We had
Speaker 1: a good upbringing. My dad was you know, there was
Speaker 1: one time where I was it was open house, you know,
Speaker 1: where your parents go to school. And I think I was,
Speaker 1: I don't know, ten or eleven, and I said to
Speaker 1: my dad, I said, Dad, you're going to meet all
Speaker 1: my teachers, so can you just not say the F word?
Speaker 1: That's my dad had a bit of a body mouth,
Speaker 1: you know, So that happened. But I was very lucky
Speaker 1: to be with not only loving parents, but you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, was it acting right into it? You know,
Speaker 1: at dinner it was like who can make me laugh?
Speaker 1: Who can cry? You know? The improv you know yet end.
Speaker 1: And it was also interesting because my dad always said
Speaker 1: to us, you can always get into this business. But
Speaker 1: you can only have a childhood once. So he really
Speaker 1: encouraged us. We all went to public school, to Pacific
Speaker 1: Palisades and Paul Revere Pacific Palisades High, and you know,
Speaker 1: we did plays and stuff and we keep on us.
Speaker 1: I mean, now I'm really dating myself. But he bought
Speaker 1: us a video camera so we could make our own movies.
Speaker 1: And it was like one of those old ones that
Speaker 1: had to be attached to like a big VCR thing,
Speaker 1: And so me, Michael and Peter were making home movies
Speaker 1: like nobody's business. It was did you do that when
Speaker 1: you were younger? Oh? Sure? Oh god? Yeah. Me and
Speaker 1: this the kid down the street, Jimmy Twitchell made uh,
Speaker 1: we made war films. We I was running for president
Speaker 1: in the film. I was a Vietnam Vet. So we
Speaker 1: were like, you know, six years old and we were
Speaker 1: making these little movies. Yeah. So we did all that stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so much a lot of fun. Yeah yeah, um,
Speaker 1: and you got to transfer all that stuff if it's
Speaker 1: on film, you know, so we took I mean we
Speaker 1: had film like this was great. Michael actually did this
Speaker 1: because we used to play the Super eight and my
Speaker 1: dad would sit down and he would narrate it because
Speaker 1: there was no send. So before my dad passed away,
Speaker 1: my brother Michael recorded him narrating the movie and it's
Speaker 1: actually online. Michael uploaded it. So it's like the Dracula
Speaker 1: Brothers and the Bloody Cave Brothers. There's if the old
Speaker 1: home movies are there, people can enjoy it. Oh that's fantastic.
Speaker 1: I tell you, I spent a couple hours there. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to leave. I did not want to leave
Speaker 1: that house. I mean, you shouldn't have. I'm surprised you
Speaker 1: did that. The one interesting thing is I, you know,
Speaker 1: every once in a while struggle with my weight, and
Speaker 1: I would be going over to my dad's house and
Speaker 1: I would I would have already eaten, and he would say,
Speaker 1: do you want a sandwich? Second you walk in, you
Speaker 1: want some food? His Italian. And that's how you showed love, right,
Speaker 1: So I said, I'm good Dad, I ate and he
Speaker 1: would go it was not happy, but he would prepare
Speaker 1: sandwiches and we would sit down. We'd be talking for
Speaker 1: two hours, you know, after the tea whatever, and I
Speaker 1: take a bite of a sandwich and he would go, ah,
Speaker 1: I knew you were hungry, but he was so warm
Speaker 1: and so kind and so welcoming and just I just
Speaker 1: remember him smiling and laughing and telling jokes and being
Speaker 1: fast and funny and witty, and with plates full of
Speaker 1: food and shoving them at us and like we were
Speaker 1: just eating our faces off and laughing. It was just
Speaker 1: it was fantastic. It was It was a great afting.
Speaker 1: He enjoyed himself and he was so interested, genuinely interested
Speaker 1: in people. I'll never forget every time we would take
Speaker 1: a cab to the airport, he would say, what's your name,
Speaker 1: you know, whatever the person's name was, and what did
Speaker 1: your father do? And he would always somehow get the
Speaker 1: life story out of every person he would come in contact.
Speaker 1: And he wasn't just you know, bologning you know with them.
Speaker 1: He was like asking genuinely how are you and wanting
Speaker 1: to know. He was very interested in the in the
Speaker 1: human experience. How would he how would he get I mean,
Speaker 1: how would he get through a public space with everybody
Speaker 1: wanting his attention and autograph or whatever it was back
Speaker 1: in the day, right, because it wasn't selfies, it was
Speaker 1: it was autographs and I want to like shake your
Speaker 1: hand and I loved you in this movie or that movie.
Speaker 1: What was that like? Well, that was an interesting time
Speaker 1: because you would have to have a pen. He always
Speaker 1: had a sharpie on him because you're always looking for
Speaker 1: a pen. Ca of your autograph? Okay, let's find a pen.
Speaker 1: Does anybody have a pen? But you know, he just
Speaker 1: he had sharpies all over the place, you know, So
Speaker 1: he was he was like autograph, Yeah, I saw your face.
Speaker 1: What do you want? He was great. He was a master.
Speaker 1: And I learned this from him, and I'm very lucky
Speaker 1: that I learned this. And it really I understand people
Speaker 1: want privacy in their lives, but if you're going to
Speaker 1: be in this business, they take a piece of you.
Speaker 1: Your privacy is you know, you have to make sure
Speaker 1: that you're going to a place that's private. But he enjoyed.
Speaker 1: He loved it when people were like gay, you know
Speaker 1: in New York it's like dum and he would say
Speaker 1: hello to them and say hello, and he had his pen.
Speaker 1: Somebody had a camera or something, but he would genuinely
Speaker 1: be like, you know, thank you so much, or oh,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell I can't do it because it's a
Speaker 1: bad bird. But I'll tell you that joke off Eric
Speaker 1: I learned what my dad did. If we were having dinner,
Speaker 1: my dad would if somebody came up, he would say hey.
Speaker 1: He would either say, you know, after dinner, I'm happy
Speaker 1: to do whatever you want, or he just would be like, hey,
Speaker 1: thank you so much, and he would just he had
Speaker 1: the thing and he's like, here's an autograph from thank you.
Speaker 1: You know, I appreciate you know. He just he never
Speaker 1: had a bad attitude. But now, Scott, this is what
Speaker 1: I do. They go like this are you? And I'm like, yes,
Speaker 1: how are you? And I'm usually joke and say I
Speaker 1: played the mother and they're like, oh, no, you have
Speaker 1: a phone. They get the phone and I just take
Speaker 1: the selfie. I'm like, hey, how much? It's so nice meeting. Obviously,
Speaker 1: if someone wants to talk to me a little more,
Speaker 1: I will, but I can get a fan interaction down
Speaker 1: to like eleven seconds. It's amazing. Huh. Sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to right, yeah, yeah, exactly. And of course, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you appreciate it when someone says, oh I love
Speaker 1: your work? Oh yeah, yeah. I stand and talk and
Speaker 1: if I can talk with him, I talk with them,
Speaker 1: and they're usually very nervous and I just sort of
Speaker 1: calm them down and talk to them like hey, and
Speaker 1: we're old pals. And then they you know, they they
Speaker 1: leave happy. They're always leave happy. And they must be
Speaker 1: a little surprised because your character, you know that you
Speaker 1: were most known for its a little crumpy's a little
Speaker 1: like get out of my diner. It must be so
Speaker 1: happy that they are they are. Yeah, you know, we
Speaker 1: did it. We did a live event at a podcast
Speaker 1: event at Warner Brothers on December twenty second, in front
Speaker 1: of an audience, and I just you know, after that
Speaker 1: was over, I went out in the crowd and just
Speaker 1: like you know, you want to get to everybody. You can't,
Speaker 1: but you but you try, because that's there's a lifeblood
Speaker 1: of everything that you do in the business. Of course,
Speaker 1: I mean, it's all about fans. I I watched something
Speaker 1: happen on my show two things per that story. After
Speaker 1: every taping, you know, because we were a multicam, all
Speaker 1: the audiences there, they would bring the audience down to
Speaker 1: the alley where you know, where the cameras are and
Speaker 1: we would take pictures for after the show for half
Speaker 1: an hour oh whatever it was wow. I mean we
Speaker 1: would have our visitors right, you know what I mean
Speaker 1: like i'd have my family friends want to take pictures
Speaker 1: with them, and then vice versa and all that. And
Speaker 1: in the beginning, I was like, you know, we shot
Speaker 1: the first season in a hole, like we hadn't been
Speaker 1: on TV yet. I was like, this is not gonna last.
Speaker 1: But it did. We lasted the whole time, the whole series.
Speaker 1: I mean, every once in a while there was like
Speaker 1: four big men around Selena making sure nothing happened right.
Speaker 1: But the interesting thing was Selena started her music career
Speaker 1: while we were still doing this, and I saw her
Speaker 1: go up to the audience and just say, I am
Speaker 1: so sorry that I can't take pictures with you guys.
Speaker 1: I have to go to Texas right now to do
Speaker 1: a concert. I just want to say thank you guys
Speaker 1: for making us, you know, for being there, for supporting me.
Speaker 1: And I watched this fifteen, sixteen year old girl address
Speaker 1: her fans with such honor and dignity. I was like,
Speaker 1: oh wow, that's a whole other thing. And that's right
Speaker 1: when Twitter had just started. So you know, people, I
Speaker 1: think I don't know what your take was on Twitter
Speaker 1: at the very beginning, but I was like, I don't
Speaker 1: want to do that and then it was right after
Speaker 1: my dad had passed away and somebody was pretending to
Speaker 1: be me talking about my dad and all this. I
Speaker 1: was like, I gotta get on there and clarify. Then
Speaker 1: there was no blue check or anything then. But she
Speaker 1: what was so interesting? She had a lot of followers then.
Speaker 1: Now she has three hundred and seventy seven million followers,
Speaker 1: a lot of people. But back then she had like
Speaker 1: I don't know, ninety thousand, one hundred thousand. I think
Speaker 1: all the older people were like, what this is? This
Speaker 1: is stilly, one hundred and forty characters. What you know,
Speaker 1: I'm taking a walk and I think I was doing
Speaker 1: the same Rubin show that KTLA, and I said, well,
Speaker 1: if she has a book coming out or she can
Speaker 1: reach one hundred thousand people in a Namo sec, like,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't you want to do that? And they all
Speaker 1: were like there was a panel of people and everybody
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that makes sense, right. Remember when Twitter
Speaker 1: started or no, um, you know, I was really late
Speaker 1: to the party with the social media stuff. But I
Speaker 1: do remember sitting down I don't know, maybe a year
Speaker 1: or so after it debuted, but I remember sitting down
Speaker 1: with one of the executives, one of the top executives
Speaker 1: of Twitter, and they were going to plot a course
Speaker 1: for my social media engagement with Twitter. And they gave
Speaker 1: me all these sort of secret codes and all kinds
Speaker 1: of things and I and I stayed in touch with
Speaker 1: them for a little while and it didn't improve my
Speaker 1: numbers and all that. But yeah, I started on it,
Speaker 1: but I just I didn't know what I was doing,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I it took me. It
Speaker 1: was a learning curve. But with hashtags and tagging people
Speaker 1: in the hole, It's like, what's going on? So silly
Speaker 1: I was? I was. I was reaching from my Almond
Speaker 1: Brothers Records, wanted to you know, listen to music. But
Speaker 1: you know, we became our own publicist. We had to.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody was like, I'm you know, I'm doing
Speaker 1: publicity for myself now content and everything. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you something that meant a lot to me after
Speaker 1: I did the show, and you know, I mean, you
Speaker 1: get a lot of guest stars, You've got a lot
Speaker 1: of people there. But you invited me to your house.
Speaker 1: You invited me to a pool party or if you remember,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say where that I actually do
Speaker 1: remember that. I do remember, and I was so I
Speaker 1: was like, Scott part what am I mean? Like what
Speaker 1: am I going to wear? I thought I was, And
Speaker 1: I wanted you did you did show up? Yes? Yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: and and there and I was like a little nervous.
Speaker 1: I just I was so pleased and happy that you
Speaker 1: included me and invited me. And when I went in,
Speaker 1: uh beautiful house and with the pool and everything done
Speaker 1: a lot to me. And I I always if anybody
Speaker 1: asked me about doing um Gilmer Girls, and so many
Speaker 1: people are such big fans of the show. I mean
Speaker 1: I was there for two episodes, very small stuff, but
Speaker 1: everybody remember, I mean you you know, you know, but
Speaker 1: I always say he invited me to his house. I
Speaker 1: was so happy. I was always having little last minute gatherings.
Speaker 1: I loved. I loved that was that was a party house.
Speaker 1: You know, that was a house to serve food and
Speaker 1: drink and it was just you know, that was Dick
Speaker 1: Martin's house. He built that house. Yes, that was his house.
Speaker 1: So all of so, so the stories go. The realtor
Speaker 1: told me before I bought us, like every major Hollywood
Speaker 1: star has been to this house. And Dick would make
Speaker 1: them jump in the pool fully clothed during the parties
Speaker 1: as a rite of passage that they were in the clothes.
Speaker 1: So he says, everybody's been in this Goldie Hawn's been
Speaker 1: in this pool. Your father was probably in that pool.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess, but it's got a lot
Speaker 1: of vibes in that place. There's a lot of good
Speaker 1: vibes in there. When I went there, I was so
Speaker 1: honored and so happy to be and you know, on
Speaker 1: your show, and you know, I hadn't seen Lauren since
Speaker 1: I was not asked back to the series and all that,
Speaker 1: so you never know how it's gonna bete. But I
Speaker 1: saw her. She was so nice. It was so great,
Speaker 1: and I experienced something. It's not so much about Lauren,
Speaker 1: but it's more about just the time where we were
Speaker 1: sitting there offset and we were having a conversation and
Speaker 1: she was, you know, just looking down and doing something
Speaker 1: so with her fingers. Oh, she's doing something with her
Speaker 1: her phone. She's she's she's texting. I had not experienced
Speaker 1: like texting, and I was like, oh, interesting, we're having
Speaker 1: a conversation and she's also having a conversation with someone else.
Speaker 1: I had no idea that was going to become the
Speaker 1: entire you know planet that's the future. And I also
Speaker 1: remember thinking, you know, you can't talk on the phone
Speaker 1: when you're on set because you don't want to be
Speaker 1: super loud or what. But so I was like, you're
Speaker 1: silently able to communicate while you're on set. So that
Speaker 1: was a big Like when I did Gilmore Girls, that
Speaker 1: was a big thing. That that a realization that hit
Speaker 1: me so right right, So your first day of film?
Speaker 1: Do you remember your first day of filming? I remember
Speaker 1: the wardrobe fitting. Yeah, I had to well, I had
Speaker 1: to wear tights because it was the Renaissance wedding. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know that was the second episode, but they had
Speaker 1: three put me in tights and not I had worn
Speaker 1: tights one other time because I did mel Brooks's movie
Speaker 1: Robin Hood men in tights and so I had been
Speaker 1: in tights. And you know, rewatching the episode that Michael
Speaker 1: talks about tights or the new thing and fights are great.
Speaker 1: The one bad thing about tights is you don't got pockets,
Speaker 1: So I don't have my speech as if you couldn't
Speaker 1: put them in the jacket body, you know. But I
Speaker 1: just remember you know, because it's interesting. When you do
Speaker 1: a job. The wardrobe people are to I mean other
Speaker 1: than casting, but the wardrobe people are typically the first
Speaker 1: person the people you meet, you know, and so nice,
Speaker 1: so sweet. Um and my my biggest, my biggest memory
Speaker 1: because you guys, I do not know how you memorized
Speaker 1: all those lines. I do not understand it. I mean,
Speaker 1: in my in my prime, I would have never been
Speaker 1: able to to remember everything. Oh, you would have been
Speaker 1: able to do it. I mean, I understand it's a
Speaker 1: muscle when you do it. You would have been able
Speaker 1: to do it. Yes, when you guys come, when you
Speaker 1: guys come, and I'm ushering you into the wedding. In
Speaker 1: the second episode, I have a crime, and I said,
Speaker 1: I'm TJ's brother. I do this. I have long furniture
Speaker 1: and this in a store, this and that, and I
Speaker 1: was like, I spoke literally as fast as I could.
Speaker 1: And then in the cut okay, and the director came
Speaker 1: up to me, it's a a good job. Talk fast right,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, how how do I talk about no? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: you know. Then again a TJ's wedding, it looked so
Speaker 1: magical with all the renaissance team and to film at
Speaker 1: the iconic Gazebo and Star Soil. Did you like your costume? Yes?
Speaker 1: I thought I looked very adorable. You know, if I
Speaker 1: may jump to the Strip club for for a moment
Speaker 1: right where we come in and you're reluctantly going and
Speaker 1: and and Jess is reluctantly going right uh and and
Speaker 1: the dialogue, man, the the intelligent dialogue, the weighty banter
Speaker 1: that you guys have has never been replaced on another show.
Speaker 1: And the particular thing that happened here, and I love
Speaker 1: the the insight to that he said, you said, I
Speaker 1: don't want to lap dance? Well, do you want to
Speaker 1: sit down? No, I don't want to you know, no lap,
Speaker 1: no dance. And then Michael goes on the whole tangent
Speaker 1: of you know, that's interesting what you said there that
Speaker 1: there's no laps or if it's not there, where does
Speaker 1: it go? It doesn't happen. It's an illusion, right, And
Speaker 1: then what do I say? The way his mind works?
Speaker 1: And then when he comes it's like you would catch
Speaker 1: everybody up. And and then this is the favorite thing
Speaker 1: that I've said in a long time, is a lap
Speaker 1: is an illusion. It's like it's like it's a set thing.
Speaker 1: We have scientifically proven this. It's not a body part.
Speaker 1: A lap is not a body part. And then there's
Speaker 1: a fight. And listen, my brother Michael is a wonderful actor.
Speaker 1: He he's killed it in so many things. I mean,
Speaker 1: my favorite thing he did was the NYPD Blue where
Speaker 1: he played Dennis Rand's Son's just so good. But camp TJ.
Speaker 1: Michael is TJ was so he just was there. He
Speaker 1: just was. It was almost like he was a piece
Speaker 1: of meat loaf. He's like, Hey, what are we gonna do?
Speaker 1: But over there, all right, I'll do it. So he
Speaker 1: talked fast, but in a in a kind of mellow way,
Speaker 1: you know. Um. So I loved him show. I thought.
Speaker 1: I thought his character was was so so far. I
Speaker 1: loved that we had to we got into a fight women,
Speaker 1: you know, mud wrestling. It was very exciting. That was funny. God,
Speaker 1: that was funny. Um. But can I ask you a question, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so you started this quite a while ago because you're
Speaker 1: you know, you're on season the end of season four,
Speaker 1: which I listened to a couple of the shows and
Speaker 1: and a lot of people really loved season four. Season
Speaker 1: four seemed to be a a special one. You know,
Speaker 1: not not that they all weren't special, um, but when
Speaker 1: you rewatched the show, right, I Oh, I remember some things.
Speaker 1: And then sometimes I'm like, I have no idea, no
Speaker 1: clue when I'm about to do no, I have no
Speaker 1: idea what's about to happen, and I'm watching it objectively
Speaker 1: the right you know, have you what you're where's your
Speaker 1: memory with when you're rewatching I have very little memory
Speaker 1: of anything. I mean, I'm not kidding. I mean the
Speaker 1: only thing I did remember one thing. There was a
Speaker 1: scene when I came where Nicole, the girl I married,
Speaker 1: she's cheating on me and I find out and I
Speaker 1: was because I was in her apartment. I wore his socks.
Speaker 1: There was another pair of socks in there. It says
Speaker 1: I'm not wearing my socks. And I'm telling Laurela this
Speaker 1: because she's sitting at the she's sitting at the bar
Speaker 1: of the diner and I come around. That's when I
Speaker 1: remembered about that scene. I didn't remember anything I said,
Speaker 1: but I do remember coming around and getting in her
Speaker 1: face a little closer say I'm not wearing my socks.
Speaker 1: Because it was like one of the few times I
Speaker 1: could do kind of like a little bit of heightened comedy.
Speaker 1: You know. It was so dramatic, but I had to
Speaker 1: really nail the comedy part of it that I remembered.
Speaker 1: Nothing else do I reb? I don't remember anything nothing.
Speaker 1: It's like I'm watching a stranger and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, like I kind of stuck because one script
Speaker 1: has to go in and then go out so you
Speaker 1: can make for the next one, you know, That's how
Speaker 1: it is. I don't remember the Lauren's mother. I don't
Speaker 1: remember her name, but I watched an interview recently and
Speaker 1: they were talking about it and they all said the
Speaker 1: pilot script was awfully thick. They were like, this is
Speaker 1: like how how could how could this be a comedy,
Speaker 1: you know, because it was so much Okay, Okay, I
Speaker 1: have a question, and I hope this is okay to ask. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when did you get the scripts for table? Because typically,
Speaker 1: and correct me if I'm wrong, you get an outline,
Speaker 1: you get a script, you get it. This all the
Speaker 1: departments get to know, like, oh, we need to have
Speaker 1: fire engines on a onesie for a going up person
Speaker 1: right right right right right. So I don't remember everything,
Speaker 1: but what I do remember was I think that the
Speaker 1: actual scripts were held very close to the vest and
Speaker 1: only released very soon so that they couldn't be messed with.
Speaker 1: Is that true. It is true. They did hold on
Speaker 1: to them until the last minute, and once we got
Speaker 1: them a day or two before we had to shoot,
Speaker 1: it was you know, but we were used to that
Speaker 1: pace of memorizing and I you know, I do remember
Speaker 1: the first I think that was the first episode we
Speaker 1: did in California, because we shot the pilot in Toronto.
Speaker 1: We got picked up We're doing episode two at Warner Brothers,
Speaker 1: and it was six am and it was we hadn't
Speaker 1: even been to the set yet. On the first day
Speaker 1: of the first scene the first episode, they throw a
Speaker 1: ten page scene at its hot off the press and
Speaker 1: Lauren and I looked at each other like, oh, we
Speaker 1: are so screwed. But we we realized we could do
Speaker 1: the show and we weren't going to screw up because
Speaker 1: we actually pulled that off. I don't know how we
Speaker 1: did it, but we just sort of got together and
Speaker 1: we just sort of ran, ran, ran, ran it, ran
Speaker 1: it in the in the in the fifteen twenty minutes
Speaker 1: that we had and we got it. We got it.
Speaker 1: If you can do that. You can do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But I think I think anybody can do it if
Speaker 1: they're put in the in that situation where they have
Speaker 1: to do it. I disagree. I disagree really that it's
Speaker 1: a big Well listen, there's there's I'm not just talking
Speaker 1: about actor. I'm just talking about anybody. Like there's there's
Speaker 1: not a lot of people that can take a ten
Speaker 1: page scene, film it and kill it fifteen minutes later.
Speaker 1: You know. I mean some people can kind of do it.
Speaker 1: But to do that it is not an easy thing.
Speaker 1: It's I'm you know, my hat which I don't have
Speaker 1: on my head. Well, we had you know, we had
Speaker 1: George Bell there. He was our dialogue coach and he
Speaker 1: would come to our trailers and we'd run run, run, run,
Speaker 1: run line. I mean, we were you know. The thing,
Speaker 1: the thing that I learned very quickly on that show
Speaker 1: is that if you didn't go to set completely bulletproof,
Speaker 1: you were going to have a bad day, you know.
Speaker 1: And that happened to a couple of people that were
Speaker 1: guest stars or recurring or you know, they didn't come
Speaker 1: to set Bulletproof and they had bad days. You Know,
Speaker 1: it was tough because when that that red light turns
Speaker 1: onto camera and they say action and you've got all
Speaker 1: that stuff to spit out your You're like, oh god,
Speaker 1: I'm not ready. I can't do this. I'm going to
Speaker 1: screw this up. So I learned very quickly to be
Speaker 1: bulletproof and just walk on set knowing your stuff. And well,
Speaker 1: I mean we all should be. It's awesome, and we
Speaker 1: all should be bulletproof all the time, you know. Like
Speaker 1: I teach acting to kids, and I'm like, there's three
Speaker 1: important thing things. Know your lines. Know your lines. Know
Speaker 1: your lines. I mean, if you don't know your lines,
Speaker 1: you're you can't do anything right. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: you can't make anything to happen right, you know? Right?
Speaker 1: And and it's interesting, what was it? Uh? Whatever I did? It?
Speaker 1: I did? Oh ncis. You weren't allowed to have minis.
Speaker 1: You weren't allowed to have any You couldn't have little signs,
Speaker 1: really couldn't have any They said no minis. And that
Speaker 1: was a way of them saying, you know your lines,
Speaker 1: you know? And oh no, no no, no, you know what
Speaker 1: it was, you know, it was shameless, shameless, they said
Speaker 1: no your lines. And I had to say I was
Speaker 1: like a military guy, and I had to say, you know,
Speaker 1: the M one eighty two main battle tank is worked.
Speaker 1: You know I had. I was saying all this right,
Speaker 1: right right, I like you said, repetition with my wife.
Speaker 1: I just did it over and over. That's all you
Speaker 1: can do, Yes, that's all you can do. But I cheated, Okay,
Speaker 1: I had, I had it just I headed in my
Speaker 1: pocket because if you go blank? Have you ever gone blank?
Speaker 1: With lines? I'm sure of course, yeah, you're like, who
Speaker 1: am I? What show is this? I don't know where
Speaker 1: I am right now? You know, I need a cookie?
Speaker 1: And one of the episodes you're or not this episode?
Speaker 1: I think you're listening to a cassette tape, which is
Speaker 1: just amazing, right, I mean that doesn't exist anymore, you know.
Speaker 1: And I even think at that time it was kind
Speaker 1: of little, right, I think so too, I think so too.
Speaker 1: So did you watch the episode last night or today
Speaker 1: or to refresh? I watched the whole episode, and then
Speaker 1: I watched clips and the next one because we were
Speaker 1: talking more about twenty but and then of course I
Speaker 1: went down to freaking rammin hole and I'm watching interviews
Speaker 1: of you guys later. Yes, I'm listening to the podcast,
Speaker 1: and it was like a recap of how it all
Speaker 1: came together. That Amy went in pitched all these ideas
Speaker 1: and they were like yeah, no, thank you. And then
Speaker 1: she was like, well there's this mother and daughter thing
Speaker 1: that I'm thinking about. Then they're like kind of friend
Speaker 1: and they were like okay, And then she had to
Speaker 1: go and then write the show right and come in
Speaker 1: and she was staying in and inn or something whatever. Whatever.
Speaker 1: It's just like, man her mind, but an amazing person.
Speaker 1: What a wonderful treat that we all got to go
Speaker 1: to that that world in her head. And then of
Speaker 1: course I'm like, what were the that she pitched? What
Speaker 1: was the other you know what I mean? Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you wonder you wonder right, my my my dad told
Speaker 1: me is real quick. But my dad told me a
Speaker 1: story that Burt Reynolds was going to pitch one idea
Speaker 1: for a game show and they were all in the
Speaker 1: car on the way there and they said, we're really
Speaker 1: excited to hear all three pitches. And they were like,
Speaker 1: so where, well, we'll be right there. So on the
Speaker 1: car right over, they came up with two more pitches
Speaker 1: and one of those is the one that they sold
Speaker 1: and it was a wind loser draw. No, I remember
Speaker 1: that show that was That was Burt Reynolds and you're
Speaker 1: dad well little, I mean my dad guessed on it.
Speaker 1: But it was Bert. It was Bert's baby. I mean
Speaker 1: he who's the one who came up with her? Did
Speaker 1: it run? Did it run for a while? Yeah? Remember
Speaker 1: that show it were in for. It was fun, you
Speaker 1: know it was. It was basically just us watching celebrities
Speaker 1: played pictionary right right, right, right right, and it was fun.
Speaker 1: Um all right? So after Gilmore you go to Wizards
Speaker 1: of Waverley places Jerry with Selena Gomez, who played your daughter.
Speaker 1: Can you believe her success after the show? I can?
Speaker 1: I can, and I'll tell you why I can. She
Speaker 1: was one of the most professional kids. I mean, all
Speaker 1: the kids were great, but at fourteen, she was hitting
Speaker 1: her boom. I'm like, we just did a table read.
Speaker 1: You're like, off book? What do you? You gotta hold
Speaker 1: your What is happening? How don't you know? I was like,
Speaker 1: what is going on here? And her timing was impeccable,
Speaker 1: so young, and I went up to her and I
Speaker 1: was like, I said, what how did you How are
Speaker 1: you doing this? You're fourteen? This is not open. What
Speaker 1: you know? Are you? Are you pretending to be young
Speaker 1: and you're a grown birds. What's happening? She said? She said,
Speaker 1: don't tell anybody. But because she was so young, she
Speaker 1: wasn't technically allowed to watch Friends yet, but she said
Speaker 1: she's watched every episode of Friends. And if you watch
Speaker 1: her performance, she has mixed those those three women into
Speaker 1: who Alex Russo is, you know, and and just learned
Speaker 1: she learned timing that way and and her instincts were great.
Speaker 1: And I'm really I'm really happy for her success. And
Speaker 1: also now with her um, you know, her new documentary,
Speaker 1: she's talking about mental health. She's so wonderful. She has
Speaker 1: a platform, Her ability to do nothing is there, but
Speaker 1: yet she uses her her platform to do good, to
Speaker 1: raise money for charities. She's just she you know what
Speaker 1: she is. She's just a regular you know, Texas girl
Speaker 1: who likes to eat fried pickles. And she's a good person,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm very happy for her success. And
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not shocked, um, but you know, you never know,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of talented people out there where. I mean,
Speaker 1: she also got a machine behind her, you know, sure,
Speaker 1: like yeah, we're going to do this and this and this,
Speaker 1: and it can be hard to on the kids, you know,
Speaker 1: to have that much success that quick, everybody saying yes
Speaker 1: to you, even you're you're you're fifteen years old, you
Speaker 1: know it really it really has to do I think,
Speaker 1: and I have two daughters, you know it has to
Speaker 1: do with the parents. Absolutely. Absolutely. You have to give
Speaker 1: them boundaries, you know what you do. It's so easy
Speaker 1: to be like, hey, go have fun, you know, go
Speaker 1: stay out to whatever you want. But if you stay
Speaker 1: then you got to be home in eleven and they're
Speaker 1: not take the phone away or do something, and that's
Speaker 1: not fun us now, you know, it is not you.
Speaker 1: That's the hard part. You try to be the you know,
Speaker 1: the tough guy, and then you go in your office
Speaker 1: and you break down. Did I just do that to
Speaker 1: my little guy? He was so funny. There was one
Speaker 1: moment where I was divorced when my oldest was ten
Speaker 1: she's twenty nine now, and when when my young they're
Speaker 1: about four and a half years apart, they were having
Speaker 1: a fight. One was playing the guitar, was playing the
Speaker 1: drums and they were mad, like I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: a drumstick went flying and I was, you know, go
Speaker 1: to your room, you know, right right right, And my
Speaker 1: oldest just crossed her arms and was like, h what
Speaker 1: are you gonna do about it? And I didn't know
Speaker 1: what to do. I was like, all right, fine, make
Speaker 1: your own dinner. I'm I'm going to my room, you know.
Speaker 1: And I took away her computer, her phone, her TV
Speaker 1: and I just hid them everywhere, right, and I it
Speaker 1: was so hard, but I was like, I just stayed
Speaker 1: in my room. You know. In the morning she knocked
Speaker 1: in there. She said, did you take my phone away?
Speaker 1: And I said, no, you forced me to take it, right,
Speaker 1: And she said when am I getting it back? And
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know, We'll see, you know, it's
Speaker 1: not like I'm taking it for two days or you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, I don't know. I was
Speaker 1: like I felt that there was the best parenting day
Speaker 1: of my life, right right right. It's it's not it's
Speaker 1: not easy, but you gotta you know, you there have
Speaker 1: to be consequences. Yeah, how old are yours? Well? I
Speaker 1: have an eight year old boy. He's going to be
Speaker 1: nine in June. Uh. He's just such a great kid.
Speaker 1: He doesn't get in trouble. He's really busy with what
Speaker 1: he's doing. He's involved with robotics and karate are his things.
Speaker 1: I mean, he it's almost a daily ritual for him.
Speaker 1: And he's you know, he's on these international sort of
Speaker 1: robotics teams and sumobot teams and he's he's you know,
Speaker 1: he's getting deeper into the karate where he's going to
Speaker 1: start competing, and so he's very are you busy. So
Speaker 1: he's gotta do he's got to do his homework and
Speaker 1: he's got to and then you know, we drive him
Speaker 1: to his his instructors, you know, the dojo or the
Speaker 1: or the robotics academy. But he's, yeah, he's he's busy.
Speaker 1: He's you know, he's not he's not screwing up yet.
Speaker 1: And I'm just you know, I'm like, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: pins and needles. And he's a good kid and he
Speaker 1: and he and he listens to us, you know, he
Speaker 1: does listen to but he's but he's very feisty. You know,
Speaker 1: he's super smart. He's like five times as smart as me.
Speaker 1: And he's always twisting man nuts, you know. Um, but
Speaker 1: you know, he, uh, there's there's been a couple of
Speaker 1: times where you know, but the thing about him is,
Speaker 1: you know, every kid's different. You know, some kids you
Speaker 1: gotta get a little i don't know, maybe a little
Speaker 1: bit loud so it sticks. But with him, you know, no,
Speaker 1: you just he he's really smart. So if you talk
Speaker 1: to him and you're calm and you and you just
Speaker 1: sort of logic it out for him, he gets it.
Speaker 1: He says, yeah, you're lucky, so wonderful. Yea happy Yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that you said. I'm paraphrasing now. But he
Speaker 1: hasn't he hasn't screwed up yet, or he hasn't he
Speaker 1: hasn't turned. Yeah, like you know they're gonna turn like
Speaker 1: h thirteen fourteen, It gets funny like fifteen sixteen, you know,
Speaker 1: if they actually look at you at one point. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: right right. I always felt like it was different with
Speaker 1: girls though, I mean I just have two girls. But
Speaker 1: the two girls were just very behaved, and you know,
Speaker 1: everything was happening. And then when they you know, like
Speaker 1: when the turn happened. You know, when when they get
Speaker 1: a little older, what were you thinking? Right, right, and
Speaker 1: the boys are like, you know, they're doing what I
Speaker 1: don't know, karate or they're being loud and things are happening,
Speaker 1: and then like in fourteen, they sit down on the
Speaker 1: on the you know, play video games on the couch
Speaker 1: and don't move right. I mean, so it becomes a
Speaker 1: lot of you. It's like, where's your son. He's over
Speaker 1: there on the couch, right, but not to say that
Speaker 1: your son is going to do that. I love that
Speaker 1: he's in the karate and you know, it's important to
Speaker 1: do something physical. I think, did you do karate when
Speaker 1: you were younger? I know, I box. My dad was
Speaker 1: a boxer in the army, so he taught me at
Speaker 1: a box and then the kids across the street had
Speaker 1: a basement with a little mini boxing ring and I
Speaker 1: used to try to fight the older one. He used
Speaker 1: to beat me up pretty much every time I challenged him,
Speaker 1: which so I stopped challenging. And I fought a smaller
Speaker 1: brother who used to beat me up as well because
Speaker 1: they were good boxers. So I had a very short
Speaker 1: career as a boxer. Um. But yeah, no, I got
Speaker 1: into karate a little later, like you know, uh college,
Speaker 1: and you know, I didn't pursue it the way I
Speaker 1: wanted to. But he he loves it. He just loves it.
Speaker 1: He really loves it. Um and he and he did it.
Speaker 1: He did one of his first sparring sessions the other
Speaker 1: day and he really just like went after the kid
Speaker 1: and attacked him. And you know that's pretty cool to watch.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, I mean he does it with me.
Speaker 1: He had ax me, right, you know, he wails away
Speaker 1: on me and he hits hard. Man. But you know,
Speaker 1: do you have do you have the pads and stuff
Speaker 1: so that you know I'm going to have to get
Speaker 1: them now though, because I can't. I can't take it anymore.
Speaker 1: He's he's hitting too hard. So you know I used
Speaker 1: to we used to do knuckles when he was growing up,
Speaker 1: and he'd like just wail away on my stomach. I
Speaker 1: can't do that with him anymore. I mean, he can't
Speaker 1: do it if it hurts too bad. He's he's he
Speaker 1: knows how to throw a punch now. I really knows that.
Speaker 1: I hear you with that. My brother's son, Jake Ye,
Speaker 1: actually actually got his black belt. Oh come, he's eighteen
Speaker 1: and the the I don't know what you call it,
Speaker 1: for two hours. Him and his his classmates had to
Speaker 1: do certain things that that the sense was telling them, right,
Speaker 1: you know, he had to do twenty spin back kicks
Speaker 1: he did and we watched, like I was that you
Speaker 1: were if you were a parent and you were or
Speaker 1: uncle or or that kind of uf you were labeled
Speaker 1: to watch on on a light feed like a zoom
Speaker 1: kind of thing. And he did twenty and I was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm exhausted, right, why did he do that?
Speaker 1: And then and then the sense I said, you didn't
Speaker 1: all do it right, so we're gonna do it again.
Speaker 1: I was like again then new hours later. I mean,
Speaker 1: there was so many different they had to do their
Speaker 1: their their you know, their their u forms you call
Speaker 1: it where you your your your course like you're like
Speaker 1: your routine. Yeah, that's called they're called the forms, the forms,
Speaker 1: the forms, So the forms. I was so exhausted. I
Speaker 1: was just watching and sweating, and I was like, how
Speaker 1: does he do this? But the discipline and the focus
Speaker 1: m esteem that you get from doing that is huge.
Speaker 1: You feel, you know, a steamable acts create self esteem.
Speaker 1: So you know, for him to do that and achieve it,
Speaker 1: it's everything right that you you were probably why watching
Speaker 1: um he was testing those kids that he was testing
Speaker 1: them for higher belts. Yeah, yeah, exactly that right there,
Speaker 1: because those tests are really grueling, you know. And Nick
Speaker 1: Nick is about to test for a belt and it's
Speaker 1: gonna be really a grueling session. He's gonna he's gonna
Speaker 1: wear Nick out. He'll he'll wear him out. Um, and
Speaker 1: then he'll decide whether he passes or not. And then
Speaker 1: he actually, uh doesn't give the belt to the kids.
Speaker 1: He says, you have to take it from me. And
Speaker 1: this guy's a nineteen time world champion and you have
Speaker 1: to take the beltway and you know, so they really
Speaker 1: have to get aggressive with him. Um. Anyway, um, so
Speaker 1: let's talk a little bit. I have a question. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have a question. The last episode that I think
Speaker 1: you did. You were watching the last episode, which was
Speaker 1: I think nineteen of season four, and you said something
Speaker 1: and I'm in the middle of your podcast. You said,
Speaker 1: there's a scene coming up. Oh yeah, pivotal yet you know,
Speaker 1: not the most It's just it was a lore lie.
Speaker 1: What was that? Can I hear what it was? Or
Speaker 1: should I just go back and listen? No? No No, is
Speaker 1: that scene with Jason when she dumped them because he
Speaker 1: was suing He told her I'm suing your father and
Speaker 1: they were meeting at a cafe or something and they
Speaker 1: were sitting next to each other, and I just, for me,
Speaker 1: I've I've never liked her more because it was just
Speaker 1: such a sim It wasn't it was no melodrama. The
Speaker 1: writing was so taught, and he was great. Chris arguments great.
Speaker 1: You know, he's a great, great actor, and the two
Speaker 1: of them, you know, he was just saying, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: things are really going south with your dad, and you know,
Speaker 1: he's ruining my reputation and he blew up the business
Speaker 1: I had with him, and he's going back to work
Speaker 1: for my father and I'm just gonna have to sue him.
Speaker 1: And she just her reactions to all that was like,
Speaker 1: I just thought it was a masterclass. She was giving
Speaker 1: a masterclass in acting. And I just I loved her
Speaker 1: so much in that scene. I've never liked her more
Speaker 1: in any scene because she chose her family. She goes, well,
Speaker 1: you just can't do that. You can't. You can't sue
Speaker 1: my family. You're you're not. And because they're dating, you know,
Speaker 1: they're they're really they're really getting along and they're having
Speaker 1: a wonderful relationship. And and she said, well, you just
Speaker 1: can't do that. And he said, well, okay, you're gonna
Speaker 1: sue my family. Then I'm out of here. Bye. So yeah,
Speaker 1: she just gets up and leaves, and I just thought,
Speaker 1: that's the scene. For me, that's the best thing I've
Speaker 1: ever seen her do. A dysfunctional family can be dysfunctional
Speaker 1: rights tour in the basis I'm there, I love you forever,
Speaker 1: you know. I love when they play upon that theme.
Speaker 1: And it's one of the few times that she got
Speaker 1: to really just hang onto the family and and reach
Speaker 1: out and embrace that family and defend the family. And
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, what a brilliant scene, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite scenes and the whole thing so far that
Speaker 1: that's big, yeah, big. And I apologize for this question.
Speaker 1: And I don't know how many times or Lauren has
Speaker 1: she come on here and talk with you. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: we were waiting for the right waiting till the end.
Speaker 1: No no, no, we're waiting for the right moment. You know.
Speaker 1: We're waiting for because we know it's going to be
Speaker 1: a big deal. The fans will go crazy. Um, but
Speaker 1: we want it to be perfect for her when she
Speaker 1: wants to do it. Um, Well, what do you do?
Speaker 1: You have to tell her that? I said, hi, I
Speaker 1: will and as you know she's a good kisser. Yes,
Speaker 1: I got to do that a couple of times. Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: So let's talk about your podcast a little bit. You
Speaker 1: started your own, rewatch, Scott, I love you. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that even if we don't. And it's great. But
Speaker 1: what was the man? You must have been asked this?
Speaker 1: And I apologize? Oh god, why did Luke? I mean
Speaker 1: I understand that there was a big thing that that
Speaker 1: you couldn't really be together. I mean it was important
Speaker 1: series wise, it was important for you guys not to
Speaker 1: hook up, right, But why why? Why? Why was that
Speaker 1: in your heart? Why did he not just go, like
Speaker 1: you say, I'm all in? Why didn't he just do
Speaker 1: that right from the game? Just abject terror? It was.
Speaker 1: It was it was a bridge too far. She was
Speaker 1: just too perfect, She was too classy, she was too quick,
Speaker 1: she was too smart. She came from money. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is the girl that he'd been fantasizing about when
Speaker 1: he was a kid. You know what I meant? It? Okay,
Speaker 1: that's good. Everything was a class you know what it
Speaker 1: was for me? The choice I'm it was a class thing.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm I'm a I'm a blue collar
Speaker 1: guy knows the grindstone. I'm up at five, I go
Speaker 1: to bed at eleven. It's all business, it's all running
Speaker 1: the diner. You know, I'm never leaving that town. I
Speaker 1: am who I am. And then here's this bright light
Speaker 1: that shows up from Hartford, and what a beautiful thing.
Speaker 1: And you know, there's that, there's that series lingering thing
Speaker 1: like Cheers, the Salm and Diane, you know, like are
Speaker 1: they going to be together? They love they hey, they
Speaker 1: love whatever's going on? Right, there's that. I mean, every
Speaker 1: episode could be about whatever, but we always are like
Speaker 1: thinking like what's going to happen there? What's going to
Speaker 1: happen there? You know? But I always, I always love
Speaker 1: that element where he felt he wasn't good enough for
Speaker 1: her and that's what held him back as well, which
Speaker 1: is wonderful because it's about our own thing. And what
Speaker 1: is so interesting about what you're saying is we I mean,
Speaker 1: we all are good enough, we all are good But
Speaker 1: to have that, and what a wonderful arc because over
Speaker 1: the entire series you had to change your mindset in
Speaker 1: order to say, Okay, I'm all in right, which I love,
Speaker 1: by the way, right, And I think I think that
Speaker 1: character was made on the couple of times times he
Speaker 1: had to watch her walk down the street through the
Speaker 1: snow with another guy on her arm, and then he
Speaker 1: we watched him die inside a couple of different times.
Speaker 1: And I think that's where the character was made. I
Speaker 1: think that defines the character more than anything. And it's just,
Speaker 1: you know, just so beautifully written, you know, to get
Speaker 1: that kind of gold to be in that situation, right,
Speaker 1: it's just right. And I'm not kidding, right, how do
Speaker 1: you feel like, oh, what about this show? That's it's
Speaker 1: so unique, it's its own thing. And I'll tell you
Speaker 1: something that my wife does. Okay, my wife, her name
Speaker 1: is Julia. She's German. She's a voiceover artist in Germany.
Speaker 1: We're living in America now, and every single bit of content,
Speaker 1: all episodes of Gilmore Girls, someone writes the script into German,
Speaker 1: makes it make sense somehow with all the references, and
Speaker 1: then someone else has to go in and fit the words.
Speaker 1: You Actually, on one of your podcasts, we're talking about
Speaker 1: the ad R and how hard it is. It's not
Speaker 1: that easy. Got really got to come to acting and
Speaker 1: you got to match it and the thing that's that's
Speaker 1: what she does for her living. You know what I mean,
Speaker 1: she was matching all this stuff. It's really difficult and
Speaker 1: it's not even you, it's someone else and a different language,
Speaker 1: so it's intense. But just imagine just you guys talking
Speaker 1: fast is hard, but try to do a different language
Speaker 1: and put the Have you ever gone and watched in
Speaker 1: German or have you watched everyone? I've seen it in
Speaker 1: Italian and Spanish and I laughed so hard I fell
Speaker 1: off the bed. It's just okay, well, actually, I'm sure
Speaker 1: everything is fine in those languages, but Germans they don't
Speaker 1: mess around it. It doesn't fit in the mouth, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't they don't do it again. They do it
Speaker 1: till it's perfect, the perfect action, and so it's so interesting,
Speaker 1: and you know, I'm sure the fans love hearing that.
Speaker 1: But you said, you said you, And this is why
Speaker 1: I brought that up because I wanted to ask you
Speaker 1: you said later or the show you're doing now? You
Speaker 1: were doing the ad R on the on the day. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it now. So it's four months later. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm finally get to the We did ten episodes and
Speaker 1: I'm finally like next week, I'm finally doing the final
Speaker 1: episode ten ad R next week, and it's hard to
Speaker 1: get back into that. You know, it's and if it's emotional,
Speaker 1: it's really hard to do. I'd rather do it on
Speaker 1: the you know, while we're in production. You know, have
Speaker 1: you ever I've never That's why I asked, because I've
Speaker 1: never heard of you know, going, oh, we need to record.
Speaker 1: I mean I get it. You know, you have a
Speaker 1: cadence and the timing tw you talk so you could
Speaker 1: just say the line again without the plane just right
Speaker 1: there for sound right, You're never you never recorded that there? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: they never, they never, they know I've never done that. No,
Speaker 1: And it's like they do it on movies. You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't do the you do the ad R a
Speaker 1: couple of months later. That's that's on a movie. But
Speaker 1: TV shows I always did the ADR like there, you know,
Speaker 1: like the next week for that episode, and they find
Speaker 1: a day for you to come and do it because
Speaker 1: you're like in it. You're like in the counter. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: all right, So we're gonna do I've one, I have
Speaker 1: one last question. Then we're gonna do rapid fire because
Speaker 1: they're telling me to. We're at our time limit. What
Speaker 1: it's crazy. No, no, it's no, it's it's one big
Speaker 1: question and then a whole thing of rapid fires. Not over,
Speaker 1: and you'll come back because we have a hell of
Speaker 1: a lot more to talk about. What's your favorite memory
Speaker 1: of your dad? And Mel brooks um, So Mel came over.
Speaker 1: He would come over too real quick. So we were
Speaker 1: watching Young Frankenstein and Mel was coming over to go
Speaker 1: out to dinner with my parents. And Mel came in.
Speaker 1: I said, we were just watching Young Frankenstein and he goes,
Speaker 1: it was all downhill after that, I mean, he said,
Speaker 1: quite a career. Oh, it's so funny. But Mel came
Speaker 1: over and we were really young, me and my brothers, Peter,
Speaker 1: Michael and me and Mel said, whoever can fart first
Speaker 1: gets a dollar. So my brother Peter's pants and I
Speaker 1: got a dollar one two sorry, I said, like, Mel
Speaker 1: would not leave our house. You'd have Norman Lear, Clara Reiner,
Speaker 1: Gene Wilder, and Mel would not leave a dinner until
Speaker 1: he felt like he had said the funniest thing. Oh man, wow,
Speaker 1: And I did. I did a scripted podcast with my
Speaker 1: friend Melissa Clark. It's called Grandma for President. And we
Speaker 1: did this a couple of years ago. We got mail
Speaker 1: to do a part. It was so one and my
Speaker 1: wife in German. I'm taking German. It's called to Hirshpield.
Speaker 1: It's a it's an audio play like We're the World's
Speaker 1: kind of thing, and and I produced it and did it.
Speaker 1: We did it during COVID, so it was really tough.
Speaker 1: But we got melt so I'm recording mel. We went
Speaker 1: to him and Mel was like, so what do you want?
Speaker 1: And I was like, I'm directing Mel Brooks. This is
Speaker 1: really weird, mel whatever you'd like if you want. I
Speaker 1: was like, can we do that one one more time?
Speaker 1: Or whatever? You know that you can tell a comic
Speaker 1: gus right Academy Awards, Hey can you can? You can
Speaker 1: you you know, punch that up? You can understood? Now, Melanie,
Speaker 1: we're mel Is and was just the best, just so
Speaker 1: loving and match. Their son is so successful now wrote
Speaker 1: World war Z the book and does many other things.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the Brooks's are good. Okay, So when you
Speaker 1: say rapid fire, it's a list of questions you have
Speaker 1: to you have to answer quickly. I'm going to fire
Speaker 1: them at you. You have to fire the answers back
Speaker 1: at me. Ready, hold on. Let me get prepared. Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead, all right, I'm ready. All right, Here we go,
Speaker 1: Here we go. How many cops to caff? Are you
Speaker 1: having a day? Three? Or four? Are your team Logan,
Speaker 1: Team Jess, team Dean? Yes? Who's your favorite Gilmore girl's character?
Speaker 1: What would you? What would you order it? Luke's Diner Burger?
Speaker 1: Would you rather go to on a road trip with
Speaker 1: Taylor or Michelle? Taylor? Finish the lyric and where you lead?
Speaker 1: I will follow dot dot dot So you want me to,
Speaker 1: I want you to complete, and where you lead, I
Speaker 1: will follow. I will follow. What's the rest of No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: You're supposed to give me the rest of the lyric?
Speaker 1: And where you lead, I will find anywhere that you
Speaker 1: tell me too. It's an obedience thing. It's kind of
Speaker 1: an obedience thing. Okay, I don't know. I'm a bad
Speaker 1: singer and failed. All right, Jackson's vegetables are Suki's baked
Speaker 1: Goods Baked good Let me come on, I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know? Right? Uh? Would you rather listen to Drella's
Speaker 1: harp or the Troupadour's cover songs? Hard Children, Prepper Stars,
Speaker 1: Hollow High, Oh, Where she went? To college or a
Speaker 1: high school. Right, private school or a public school. Childen
Speaker 1: Prepper was a private school she went to. It's so
Speaker 1: expensive that the grandparents paid for It's like fifty sixty
Speaker 1: grand a year. I'll go with the private school. There
Speaker 1: you go, childn Prep. You did so well, you did,
Speaker 1: so you do. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna let you know. Um David a joy a
Speaker 1: joy a joy Um, so so good to see you.
Speaker 1: Gotta come back, okay anytime we we only got well
Speaker 1: we got all these fan questions, we only got to
Speaker 1: about half of them, so there's more, so you got
Speaker 1: to come back. Okay another time. I'm ready and and
Speaker 1: you know, thank you for having me on. And yes,
Speaker 1: we're doing the Wizards of Waverley Pod. So that's out
Speaker 1: on on Mondays and then Spotify is and all over
Speaker 1: the place. And Selena's episode by the way, huh. I
Speaker 1: don't know exactly when you're airing or not, but but
Speaker 1: next Monday is interviewed Selena and she's going to be
Speaker 1: on it. Wow. Okay, so what's the name of the
Speaker 1: podcast again? Wizards of Waverley Pod. Wizards of Waverley Pod.
Speaker 1: They get it. On all the major platforms. Okay, anybody
Speaker 1: who's listening to it, go and find it. You're they're young.
Speaker 1: They they know how to do it. Thank you. They
Speaker 1: get to teach us. All right, all the best, Thank
Speaker 1: you so much. It's so great to see you and
Speaker 1: good catching up buddy. Yeah, congratulations on your on your son.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I hope everything goes well with the next belt.
Speaker 1: I do too, so thank you and we'll talk to
Speaker 1: you real soon. Okay, all right, are you? Take care?
Speaker 1: All right? Take care now? Bye, Hey everybody, and don't
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