1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Give the defense its due, especially the secondary Welcome Bird Gang. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: On today's show, Danny Shurrek joins me, big plays, specifically 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: big pass plays lead the touchdowns, and that is not 4 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: something we've seen in recent weeks against this Cardinals defense. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: We dive into the numbers. Plus, Johonna Williams is back. 6 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Will Darius Robinson be back at Cardinals Cover two Episode 7 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: eight twenty one and it starts now. 8 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two. 9 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:36,919 Speaker 1: P to Baker, what Heart? What rent? This guy's unbelievable. 10 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 2: Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, proud partner of 11 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcast Visit Azycardinals 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 2: dot com slash podcast. 13 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again. 14 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: Some more hurry magic whow. 15 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: Here's Craig Griola. 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: So there is a saying, you don't know how good 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 1: you have it until it's gone. Well, we know how 18 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,839 Speaker 1: good we have it. And Danny Serek is back here 19 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two, presented by Hundai, proudly partner of 20 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. It's been what two weeks? Not that 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: I haven't seen you during those times, just we haven't 22 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 1: talked in this platform. 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: That's a very kind intro. Craig, thank you. It's wonderful 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 3: to be back. 25 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: Should we clip that Cody for future episode to you? Yes, 26 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: you are everyone else, that's what I believe you. Yes 27 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: we appreciate that. And yes, Danny Serek is back. Darius Robinson. 28 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: By the way, I don't know if there is a 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: person who had a bigger smile on their face all 30 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: of Wednesday than Darius Robinson when he addressed reporters on 31 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: Wednesday following his second day of practice this week. And 32 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: again I've been on record saying I'm not expecting him 33 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: to play this week. Yet the more Danny I think 34 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: about it, the more I see Darius practicing and then 35 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: hearing him on Wednesday, I still would be surprised. However, 36 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: I you know, stranger things have happened. 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 3: Tuesday was Robinson's first practice since October ninth, the one 38 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 3: practice Robinson had in between being activated to return to 39 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 3: practice and now at this point. So the fact that 40 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 3: he had back to back practices Tuesday and Wednesday is 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 3: a very good sign. There was no sleeve on his calf. 42 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 3: He has gone through the drills that at least during 43 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 3: the open media portion of practice that we have seen, 44 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 3: he's gone through the drills, he has been jogging in 45 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 3: between the drills. He's looked good. You see him and 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 3: you remember, oh, yeah, this is a big dude. Robinson 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 3: had a huge smile when he was talking to the media, 48 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 3: and it was even just about the excitement for going 49 00:02:56,960 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: to meetings and watching film from practice just because he 50 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 3: hasn't yes, because he hasn't done that, He's been essentially 51 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 3: a bystander. He's been working out and rehabbing so much 52 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,960 Speaker 3: and now he's getting a taste for football. Does that 53 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 3: mean if he gets through a full week of practice 54 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: he'll be ready to go Sunday in Seattle. I think 55 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 3: it's a toss up. I think if he does play, 56 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: it'll be in a limited role and you'll see his 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: snaps increase over the coming weeks. It also wouldn't be 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:26,640 Speaker 3: a surprise if he doesn't play. If he's not there 59 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,680 Speaker 3: quite yet. And you have to understand, he hasn't played 60 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 3: football in a very long time, he said himself. The 61 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: last football game he played was the Cotton Bowl in December. 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 3: That was almost a year ago. It's going to take 63 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: time for the rookie to really get back into football 64 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 3: shape and make sure that mentally what he is seeing, 65 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 3: what he's writing down his playbook, from what he's seeing 66 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 3: on film, talking with his teammates seeing in practice for 67 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 3: that to translate quickly enough to the speed of the 68 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:52,880 Speaker 3: game on game day. 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Darius has always been in shape. The question is is 70 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: he in football shape? What has he been doing behind 71 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: the scenes that we have not seen? How involved has 72 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: he been during these practices. Again, we are seeing a 73 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: limited amount of time during the open portion, but during 74 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: that time there is explosiveness attacking the sled and no 75 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 1: hesitation and moving laterally up and down. So he looks 76 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: like that player during those ten preseason snaps that we 77 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: saw be dominant in those ten snaps. Yet at the 78 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: same time, historically, based off this head coaching staff, when 79 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: a player is designated to return and you open up 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: that practice window, they use all three weeks before a 81 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: player returns to game day. Yet Robinson has had more 82 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: than that. But he hasn't had more than a couple 83 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: of days of practice. So that's why it would surprise 84 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: me if only one full week he would be back. Ye. 85 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: At the same time, if you're only talking about eight 86 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: to ten snaps, eight to twelve snaps, ramping them up. 87 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 1: It's a big game, it's division game, it's on the road, 88 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: and see again, I'd be surprised. Yet maybe let's put 89 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: it that way. 90 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, and Robinson said that the timeline of all this 91 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:14,039 Speaker 3: didn't shock him. Was he heartbroken after the initial injury 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 3: and then only getting one practice in, Yes, he was, 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 3: but he gave a lot of credit to this training staff, 94 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 3: the coaching staff, his family, his teammates, his rookie teammates 95 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 3: to help him along and said that he is continuing 96 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 3: to take notes in his notebook even though he hasn't 97 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: been on the field. Round draft time, it went out 98 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 3: of how detailed Robinson is on a day to day 99 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 3: basis for every week, and he said that he did 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 3: not let that slip. He continued that process even though 101 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:46,479 Speaker 3: he hasn't been playing. When I asked Robinson if he 102 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 3: could quantify how much he was chomping at the bit 103 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: to play, since he had a big smile when talking 104 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 3: about meetings and dinner, he said, you're gonna see it 105 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 3: on my film, and I think that's pretty tell. 106 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: It's again, We've been waiting for this for a long time, 107 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: because he was the most impressive of any of the 108 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: rookies in the entire rookie draft class during training camp. 109 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: And that's more more impressive than what we saw out 110 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: of Marvin Harrison Junior, at least in my opinion from 111 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: where I was watching practices in the preseason. Yet at 112 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: the same time, now, okay, how much can you expect 113 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 1: out of him right away? And I don't think you're 114 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: expecting a ton yet Again, seven games, if he's back 115 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 1: to full speed fifty five percent of the snaps, by 116 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: what that fourth or fifth game of this seven game run, Now, 117 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you just added a valuable, much 118 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,119 Speaker 1: needed piece along that defensive line. 119 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 3: The expectations of a number one draft pick for a 120 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 3: wide receiver and a defensive lineman are different. When you've 121 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 3: got a receiver like Marvin Harrison Junior, the expectations are 122 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 3: to have big plays and you're going one on one 123 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 3: and you have all the space. It's it's just a 124 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: different game being played in the trenches. That's not to 125 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 3: say that defensive linemen and Robinson specifically can't make an 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 3: impact or can't have splash plays. It's just different expectations. 127 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 3: What is the same is having some grace period for 128 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: a rookie to adjust to the speed of the game 129 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 3: and really connect what they are thinking through and what 130 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 3: they're seeing and physically doing to try and pair that 131 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 3: so they're not having to think so much. Regardless of 132 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: whether or not Robinson plays this Sunday in Seattle, that's 133 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 3: going to take some time and as he continues to 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 3: get ramped up. The good news for the Cardinals is 135 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 3: whenever Robinson does put on that jersey and step onto 136 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 3: the field on an actual game day, he's going to 137 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: be giving some relief to a defensive line that's been 138 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: banged up. Now, they have still done a nice job 139 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: this defense as a whole with all the injuries and 140 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: adversity they have faced. Getting Robinson back will be a 141 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 3: huge boost for this defense. 142 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: They like that rotation along the defensive line, though recently 143 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: it's been a five man rotation, sometimes six if you 144 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: elevate someone off the practice squad, But a healthy Darius 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Robinson certainly would be a boost to this overall Cardinals defense. Now, 146 00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 1: it comes with the uncertainty speaking defensively on Jalen Thompson 147 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: not seen during the open portion of practice, on Wednesday, 148 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: So that's two practices that he has not been out 149 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: and present dealing with that ankle issue. We'll see what 150 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: happens this week. Kelvin Beacham. Once again, it's Wednesday, so 151 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: as we are walking out, he's walking back inside. This 152 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: is what we've seen for much of this season. But 153 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: on the subjects of Kelvin Beacham, the other news on Wednesday, Danny, 154 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: is that Jonah Williams, as expected, activated the fifty three 155 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:42,840 Speaker 1: man roster. That twenty one day practice window closed on Wednesday, 156 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: so a decision had to be made, and the decision, 157 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: which we all anticipated, was that Williams was going to 158 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: be activated. Now the question again is all right, he's 159 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 1: been activated, he's healthy, he has been practicing. To put 160 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: him back in the starting lineup. 161 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: Yes, you paid Jonah Williams in free agency this year 162 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 3: to comment and you're starting right tackle. He started the 163 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: season as your right tackle. That's what you're going to 164 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: get from him. I can understand the question of well, 165 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 3: if it's been working, why would you break it and 166 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 3: Calvin Beacham. That doesn't take away from what Beacham has done. 167 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 3: He has had a very nice season. That offensive line 168 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 3: as a whole, especially when you're also without your starting 169 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 3: right guard, will Hernandez, and it's been Tristan Cologne and 170 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 3: Isaiah Adams stepping up. Fantastic performance by this offensive line 171 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: who has elevated a run game and kept their quarterback 172 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: upright and clean. Williams is still your starting tackle, and 173 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,719 Speaker 3: that's why you brought him in. If then one of 174 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 3: the variables, if you're going to look at practice and 175 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 3: say we don't see a drop off, then you're going 176 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 3: to have Williams. Now, if you're seeing a drop off 177 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 3: between Beacham and Williams, that would pose to other questions. Again, 178 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: given what you did in the off season and with 179 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 3: the plan of having Williams being your starter, I don't 180 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: expect to see any sort of drop off or any reason. Again, 181 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 3: not a knock on Beacham more so just that's what 182 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 3: you want on a Williams. That's what you envision. That's 183 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 3: what you want to see as you were starting. 184 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: Tackle and the role of a backup, which is what 185 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,040 Speaker 1: Beacham is, who's your swing tackle, is to man the 186 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 1: position until the starter is writing. Do the best you can, 187 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: and beach has performed I think maybe better than a 188 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: lot of people anticipated what was it the last game 189 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: or the Bears game in which ESPN had a stat 190 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: that Beacham gave up zero pressures for an entire game. 191 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 1: Going back to earlier in the season, there were questions 192 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 1: marks about beach but that was because he probably wasn't 193 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: getting a lot of reps with the first team offense. 194 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,599 Speaker 1: But a true veteran ramps up and now all of 195 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, people are discussing, why would you take Beacham 196 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: out of the lineup? He's been so good and I 197 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: understand that, yet at the same time, you're a starter 198 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: for a reason. 199 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 3: It's a fair question Williams is going to be the starter, 200 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 3: though not a knock on Beachum, just showing what they 201 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: want this offensive line to look like. And it should 202 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 3: be noted a couple of weeks ago, when Williams was 203 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 3: returning to practice, Kyler Murray was asked at one of 204 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 3: his press conferences what he remembered from the one quarter 205 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 3: of play Williams play this season in Buffalo before hurting 206 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 3: that right knee Week one, and Murray said, I don't 207 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 3: remember much, but I do remember feeling safe and protected 208 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 3: and if you're gonna have one lasting impression on your 209 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: franchise quarterback as an offensive lineman, that's what you want 210 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 3: it to be. 211 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. I don't think it will happen, 212 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: but a potential of a rotation at the tackle spot, 213 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: like we've seen at right guard with Tristan Cloone and 214 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: Isaiah Adams. The difference there is you have a veteran 215 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: and a younger player that you're hoping to become. Perhaps 216 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: next season you're starting right guard or starting left guard, 217 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: depending on what happens in the offseason. But do you 218 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: get a couple of series for Jonah Williams to get 219 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: his feet wet, ramp him up or is it just no, 220 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: you're plugging play, you're the starter. Let's go. 221 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:52,320 Speaker 3: Well, that's a different question of rotation versus ramping him up. 222 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 3: I don't see it as realistic that you're going to 223 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 3: bookend your offensive line in a rotation, especially when you 224 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: are using not a heavy but a bit of a 225 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: rotation at right guard. You don't want so many moving 226 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 3: pieces because at that point you're now having I mean, 227 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 3: we know I don't like doing math, but think of 228 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 3: all the different variations you're now having just on the 229 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 3: right side with yell to rohol yelled to Froholt at center. 230 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: And then the scenario where you've got Tristan Glone as 231 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 3: guard and Jonah Williams at tackle, And then what about 232 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 3: when you keep Froholt and Williams but you've got Adams, 233 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 3: or what if you're keeping Adams but you're There's just 234 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 3: so many different combinations. And while the offensive line does 235 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 3: work with different combinations to make sure that in the 236 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: face of adversity they're ready to go, you don't want 237 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: so many moving parts. I think that if if I 238 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: mean yeah, I guess there could be a world in 239 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 3: which if Williams needs a couple snaps, he could go 240 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 3: in and get his feet wet. Typically, though, with an 241 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: offensive lineman, when they're coming back, when they're ready, they're 242 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: out there and they're playing the full game, and that 243 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: feels like more what we will see whenever Williams does 244 00:12:59,120 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: make his return. 245 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: I always subscribe to the less change the better along 246 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: the offensive line. Those five guys you don't sub in 247 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: and out. It's not like every other position. It's more 248 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: like the quarterback position. You At the same time, here, 249 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: we've seen the last couple of seasons and a handful 250 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: of teams across the league that they are moving guys 251 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: in and out of a LAUP to get snaps, either 252 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: for a reward or to see what they can do. 253 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: But I think in this scenario with right guard, it's 254 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: more of, hey, we really like what Isaiah Adams can 255 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 1: do or the potential to do. He's earned these reps. 256 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: We're not quite sure if Tristan Clode has a future here. 257 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Let's see what Adams is capable of doing. Different situation 258 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: on the right tackle side, because you do have Jonah 259 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 1: Williams now locked up for next season, Calvin Beacham, you 260 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: don't have locked up and right now, Christian Jones is 261 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 1: your quote unquote young tackle, but he's just not ready yet. 262 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: And when you're talking about the rotation at guard, they 263 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: could like certain things that Adams as a rookie's doing, 264 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 3: and certain things they like Cologne better at and that 265 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,600 Speaker 3: could be part of the rotation and really beefing up 266 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 3: Adams and building his strength and helping him get adjusted 267 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 3: to the speed of the game and the size of 268 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 3: and the strength of defensive lineman that he's going up against. 269 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: It's a completely different situation when you've got a veteran 270 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 3: in Beacham and a veteran in Williams and he's just 271 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 3: coming back from injury. 272 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: So the expectations Sunday in Seattle Jonah Williams at right tackle, 273 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: perhaps maybe Darius Robinson active on game day. We'll see 274 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: what happens in the coming days as far as how 275 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: Darius Robinson continues to feel, because remember the last time 276 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: he did practice he was limited, and then we didn't 277 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: see him for a month's plus time. But at least 278 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: we're seeing them now in consecutive days on the practice field. 279 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: But I bring up Seattle. And by the way, two 280 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: twenty five is the kickoff on Sunday nine thirty am. 281 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Pregame coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio network and 282 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: a lot of talk Wednesday, and we heard it as well, 283 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: but a lot of talk before practice about the environment 284 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: and how loud and noisy it can be at Lumen Field. 285 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: You've been there, I have not, but you could certainly 286 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,480 Speaker 1: hear it through the broadcast, whether on radio or TV. 287 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: And that twelfth Man always they advertise how many different 288 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: times the twelves I'm sorry. 289 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 3: The twelfth Man, trust A and m it's not a 290 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: whole thing. 291 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: Good catch, Yes, the twelve, how well and how much 292 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 1: pressure they put on opposing teams as far as false starts, 293 00:15:31,280 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: it's always a big deal how many times they get 294 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 1: someone to false start, whether on offense or defense. Yet 295 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: at the same time, we heard it, not during the 296 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: open portion of practice, but we're sitting in our workroom. 297 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: We're having lunch here at the facility, and all of 298 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: a sudden it got real loud, and we are in 299 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: an enclosed building, yet we could hear little Jimmy Hendrix 300 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: Purple Hayes almost to the point where it felt like 301 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 1: a concert was going on outside. 302 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 3: Luminfield is going to be loud, it's going to be hostile. 303 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 3: That was something the Cardinals worked on before the Jets 304 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 3: with quarterback Aaron Rodgers, known for his cadence, and making 305 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,640 Speaker 3: sure that they were not going to have any sort 306 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: of pre snap penalties of the line of scrimmage. That's 307 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 3: what you have to do when you're going to Seattle. 308 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 3: That is a tough place to play as an opposing team, 309 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 3: and there's a reason for that. The Twelves are very loud, 310 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 3: and even though it's an outdoor stadium, and you might 311 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: think the sound is just gonna go up and you're 312 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: not really gonna hear it. That's not the case at all. 313 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 3: It is very loud there that is a fantastic fan base. 314 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 3: I probably shouldn't be giving in this platform, but there's 315 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 3: the fan who stands in the corner with the posters 316 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: by the opponent's tunnel, and he always has a misspelling 317 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 3: and it's like just one letter or something where you're like, 318 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: come on, man, and it actually does kind of irk 319 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,280 Speaker 3: me just I mean, obviously as a journalism major and 320 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: I get it's a bit, but he rotates a couple 321 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 3: posters which are a lot of times some personal jabs 322 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 3: and even heckles, not just the players or coaches, but 323 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 3: sideline reporters as well. Paul Calvic can attest to that 324 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 3: this fan noticed very quicky that I was new because 325 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 3: he had never heckled me before my first game. 326 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: You've officially arrived once you've been he. 327 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 3: Seattle's a fun place to play, and it's a fun environment, 328 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 3: but it's it's very loud. It's very hostile, and that's 329 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 3: something that they have to prepare for and they have 330 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: to show up ready to fight, especially coming off the 331 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 3: bye week, you have to make sure that you are 332 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: truly locked in, enjoy the rest physically mentally from last week. 333 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 3: You can't be thinking about that now. You have to 334 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 3: come locked in and ready to go against the Seahawks team, 335 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,399 Speaker 3: especially knowing that you're going to see them again in 336 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 3: two weeks. 337 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: And that's kind of an interesting dynamic in this not 338 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: that it happens all the time, but it has happened. 339 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,399 Speaker 1: When you're facing a team twice in three weeks or 340 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: maybe twice in four weeks, do you hold something back? 341 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: Do you just worry about this week and not worry 342 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 1: about the following weeks or the following game. You just 343 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: try to figure out what is what is needed to 344 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: win this game on Sunday. I'll say this, the Cardinals 345 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: have had their success at Lumenfield. They're two and three 346 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: over their last five visits, most recently winning in twenty 347 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: twenty one. But they have more wins, more wins at 348 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: that venue than any other visiting team. They have nine 349 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: wins forty nine Ers have eight. Now, of course you're 350 00:18:21,000 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: playing more often up there because of the NFC NFC 351 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: West team, but they do have experience playing up there 352 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:32,760 Speaker 1: and maybe not as hostile of an environments as previous seasons. 353 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: Because the Seahawks have lost four in a row at home. 354 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: They are on a four game losing streak at Loomenfield, 355 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: which is unheard of. Now, how much of that as 356 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: the opponent? How much is themselves trying to figure things 357 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 1: out under a first year head coach Mike McDonald, Yet 358 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 1: at the same time they have struggled to win in 359 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: their own building. 360 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: There are some advantages the Cardinals have offensively. It's running 361 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 3: the ball. Seattle is twenty seven their defense against the run, 362 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: and that's clearly an advantage for the Cardinals who are 363 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 3: five and one. When running back James Connor surpasses one 364 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 3: hundred scrimmage yard, So I would say, come out fast, 365 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 3: run the ball early and off and and really punch 366 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: him the mouth to set the tone and run the ball. 367 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 3: Although the passing game has looked very nice lest couple 368 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 3: of games as well for the Cardinals, so they're in 369 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: a position going up against the Seattle defense that they 370 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,479 Speaker 3: could really do some damage. I think it is going 371 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 3: to be out wide for both the Cardinals offense and defense. 372 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 3: A really exciting game to watch. You've got Marvin Harrison 373 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: Junior going up against Devin Witherspoon Tariq Wollan, two of 374 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: the top cornerbacks in the league. And then on the 375 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 3: other side of the ball, you've got Cardinals secondary, who's 376 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 3: going up against a pretty nasty trio of DK Metcalf, 377 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,000 Speaker 3: Jackson Smith and Jigba and Tyler Lockett. Although the Cardinals 378 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 3: defense has done a very nice job in the last 379 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 3: three games against the Dolphins, Jets, and Bears preventing their 380 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: top receivers from having big plays, I do think though, 381 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,920 Speaker 3: that it's going to be exciting to watch Kyler Murray 382 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 3: and Gino Smith sling it out and see the battle 383 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 3: out wide. 384 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: By the way, not that it matters because quarterbacks don't 385 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: face one another, but I saw the stat earlier that 386 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 1: Gino Smith is undefeated against Kyler Murray three three yeah, 387 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,199 Speaker 1: four and oh against the Cardinals and three and oh 388 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: against Kyler Murray since twenty twenty two. Again those it's 389 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: almost like in Major League Baseball the pitching matchups, and 390 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: you ask about that duels like, well, I don't face 391 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: the other pitcher, and Kyler gets those questions too, about 392 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: going up against an Aaron Rodgers or Caleb Williams. You know, 393 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy winners facing off. I don't play them. 394 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 3: I play against a different type of competition. 395 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's a storyline speaking of that Cardinals defense 396 00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 1: and the advantage perhaps that they have coming up. Buddha 397 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: Baker's eighth career game at Lumenfield, located just ten miles 398 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: from his hometown of Bellevue, and this week the guest 399 00:20:57,440 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: of you on Sideline Exchange, I love. 400 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 3: Buddahbat I mean, who doesn't All the fans do, and 401 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 3: with good reason. And it was a really fun conversation 402 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 3: chatted up with the captain before he heads home against 403 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,879 Speaker 3: the Seahawks. And every game matters, right, every game means something, 404 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:12,679 Speaker 3: but you know that it means a little more when 405 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 3: you get to go to your hometown and you get 406 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 3: to play under those bright lights, and again, especially at 407 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: a place like Lumenfield. It was a really fun conversation 408 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:23,199 Speaker 3: he had. It had a couple laughs at some of 409 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 3: my questions, which is always good. I don't want to 410 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: spoil those, but I do think that was a fun 411 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: conversation for Sideline Exchange this week. 412 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: By the way, a lot is made about Kyler Murray 413 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 1: and his high school exploits. Buddha Baker, by the way, 414 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:42,239 Speaker 1: has more state championships team combined with individual championships than 415 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray. 416 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 3: He was a baller. 417 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: Three state championships in football, two state championships in track, 418 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:55,359 Speaker 1: plus eight individual state titles in track. I that track 419 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: and field prowess of Buddha Baker is not something that 420 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,360 Speaker 1: I was aware of until earlier this week. 421 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,200 Speaker 3: I know, I said, I wasn't going to spoil the questions, 422 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: but here we go. Was that led to one of 423 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 3: my questions because Baker was also the Seattle Times Athlete 424 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 3: of the Year and I asked him if that got 425 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: him any Brownie points to the locker room. He goes 426 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 3: this locker room. I go, yeah, he started laughing. He goes, No, 427 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 3: nobody knows about that. Well, they're going to know about 428 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 3: it now. 429 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,639 Speaker 1: Yes, Sideline Exchange coming soon Azcardinals dot Com and all 430 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 1: the social media channels as well. And that's kind of 431 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: where I want to dovetail this conversation into because Budda 432 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 1: Baker is the leader of that secondary and right now 433 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: that secondary, we talk about the cornerbacks, and I think 434 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: it's also the safety position as well, because you brought 435 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: it up these last three games Dolphins, Bears, and Jets. 436 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: The Dolphins it was Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddle. The 437 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: Bears Keenan Allen Romaduns a DJ Moore, the Jets, DeVante Adams, 438 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: Garrett Wilson. No touchdowns from any one of those players. 439 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 1: They have kept some of the most talented wide receivers 440 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,439 Speaker 1: in this league out of the end zone, and that 441 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: is a credit, Yes, the pass rush, but I think 442 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: more to the sticky coverage that you're seeing from these 443 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: cornerbacks and also the help from the safeties. 444 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 3: Absolutely, and it's been smart, clean play of not drawing penalties. 445 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 3: That's something where sticky coverage gets sticky for lack of 446 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 3: a better term, and you got to play smart and 447 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:17,439 Speaker 3: that is just as important of having that tight coverage 448 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 3: and not giving them a lot of space is making 449 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:20,679 Speaker 3: sure you're doing it to where you're not drawing a 450 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 3: penalty and giving them an advantage. Cardinals defense has done 451 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 3: a really nice job working well together, especially though out 452 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: why when you're talking about those DB's, they really have 453 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 3: shut down these top receivers very well. And they're gonna 454 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: have another challenge to do it against those three in 455 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 3: Seattle this Sunday. But they've proven that they can do that, 456 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: and they've proven over the years and they can do 457 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:43,199 Speaker 3: that against metcalfs specifically. Who tends to the trend is 458 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 3: he tends to not have great games against the Cardinals 459 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,159 Speaker 3: in his career. 460 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, there are just some matchups in which you just 461 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: have no reason or no answer. And it's nine games 462 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: played for DK Metcalf and fewer than sixty receiving yards 463 00:23:57,800 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: in every single one of those games. So why And 464 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: again it's sometimes it's just a matchup. Sometimes it's just 465 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: the way things go. But yeah, when you look at 466 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: history and trying to figure out, all, right, where is 467 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: a weakness or where might we be able to exploit 468 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: a matchup this Cardinals defense, regardless of personnel, coaching staff, 469 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: they've done a very good job limiting Dk Metcalf. 470 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:24,680 Speaker 3: You do have to keep your eye on Metcalf though, 471 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: for those deep threats. He's the number one targeted with 472 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 3: eighteen in the league in terms of those deep go routes. 473 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 3: That's who Smith is going to look for. If he's 474 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 3: going to look for an explosive plays, it's going to 475 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 3: be Metcalf out wide. 476 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: And Smith and Jigba has been playing or has had 477 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: more of his success in the slot, which means okay, 478 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: now the matchup is Smith and Jigba and Garrett Williams, 479 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: who has done a very good job in year two 480 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: to the point where he is now a veteran cornerback. 481 00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: Despite I don't he might have just cleared like his 482 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: first full season as far as games played are concerned, 483 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: not full season in a calendar year. But he didn't 484 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: have a full season a year ago, and he's got 485 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: a little bit more than a full season this year, 486 00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: so he is just getting started. At the same time, Danny, 487 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 1: it's not It wouldn't be a surprise if you start 488 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: hearing Garrett Williams's name more, maybe next year or the 489 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: year after that. As far as Pro Bowl, All Pro 490 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,359 Speaker 1: and one of those phrases at all, cornerbacks like to 491 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: hear shut down corner. 492 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: You remember which game was williams first in his career 493 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 3: last year? I do Seattle in Seattle and he had 494 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: a pick. He had a great first game. 495 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: Are you calling your shot here? Oh? 496 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: I wasn't, but I could sure. 497 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: Let's do it, okay. 498 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 3: Garrett Paul on Cardinals Underground said that Buddha Baker is 499 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 3: gonna have two dozen tackles, in which case, if he does, 500 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: Darren Eddie's gonna bring two dozen donuts for Paul to have. 501 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 3: I'm just gonna stick with an interception by Garret Willian. Yeah. 502 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,200 Speaker 1: I like your prediction more so than twenty four tackles. 503 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 1: Although the way Buddha Baker has been flying all over 504 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: the field and the way they've kind of unlocked him 505 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: this season, giving him a little bit more freedom to 506 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: do different things, I'm not gonna say twenty four, but 507 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:08,719 Speaker 1: certainly double digits. I mean, Buddha Baker has consistently been 508 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: that ten eleven, twelve, thirteen tech. 509 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,639 Speaker 3: It's realistic. Typically don't want that from a safety, but 510 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 3: when you look at how Baker flies all over the 511 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 3: field and just the speed and force in which he plays, 512 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: it's not a surprise. 513 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,439 Speaker 1: And again it's not just Buddha Baker, but because he 514 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: is that face, if you will, of the secondary, and 515 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: something Nick Raalas brought up earlier this week when talking 516 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: about that Cardinals defense in this secondary on how good 517 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: of a rapport those guys have, the communication, maybe the 518 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: nonverbal communication that is going on during the course after 519 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: the play has been relieved or been relayed, and I 520 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: just think what we're seeing now here these last three games, 521 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: limiting passing touchdowns, limiting the big plays. In fact, Cardinals 522 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: have allowed just three pass plays of twenty or more 523 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: yards over the last three games. There were ten such 524 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: plays in the first three games this season. And again 525 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,399 Speaker 1: it's knowing this defense and those younger players Danny getting 526 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: more familiar, more comfortable, and less thinking and just going 527 00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 1: out there and playing. 528 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 3: Cardinals are getting hot at the right time. They have 529 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 3: done a really nice job across the board in all 530 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 3: three phases of making sure they really are learning and 531 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 3: getting better. On a week to week basis, this team 532 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 3: looks better every single week, whether that is how they're 533 00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 3: starting the game, whether that's generally in the run or 534 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: the past, or if it's how they're adjusting in game. 535 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 3: They really have done a nice job. That's what's important 536 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,439 Speaker 3: right now when you are in this home stretch of 537 00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 3: the regular season and it's a tight race in the 538 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 3: NFC West. Cardinals are a top at six and four, Seattle, 539 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,399 Speaker 3: LA and San Francisco are on their heels all at 540 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: five and five. Every game matters these division opponents, though 541 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: a win against a divisional opponent has some really significant 542 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 3: playoff implications, and especially when you're playing a Seahawks team 543 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 3: twice in three weeks, pressure is on now not maybe 544 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 3: not for the players or coaches, and they absolutely won't 545 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 3: tell you that, But these games really do matter. 546 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: I know JG says every game counts the same, and 547 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: he's not wrong. Yet. At the same time, division games 548 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: do mean much more. Head to head competition means something Otherwise, 549 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: why would you have a tiebreaker system? I mean, what 550 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: do you look at head to head division games? 551 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,439 Speaker 3: So I get it, though the argument is, okay, well, 552 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: the tie breakers wouldn't matter if you just won one 553 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 3: more game. 554 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 1: I get both, But there are always tiebreakers in these 555 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: situations because if you finish tie then all of a sudden, 556 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 1: it's okay. Instead of making the playoffs, maybe you don't 557 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 1: or your seating gets affected based off these tiebreakers. So look, yes, 558 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: he's not wrong. Yet at the same time, talk to anybody. 559 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: They know division games, regardless of sport, means just a 560 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: little bit more because you went on Sunday and all 561 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you've got a two game cushion on 562 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks, plus the potential to sweep, which gives you 563 00:28:57,480 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 1: the tiebreaker, but if you lose, now, all of a sudden, 564 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: the Seahawks are in first place because of the head 565 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 1: to head when over the Cardinals. 566 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 3: To stay atop the division the Cardinals, you really just 567 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: can't get in your own way. That's really what it's 568 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 3: going to come down to, because the other three organizations 569 00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: teams have all proven over the years they find a 570 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 3: way to get the job done. Rams consistently have found 571 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 3: a way that even if they have a slow start 572 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 3: to the season, they're going to make a playoff push. 573 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: Forty nine Ers consistently have been atop the division. So 574 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 3: you really can't get in your own way because the 575 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 3: rest of the teams behind you have proven that they 576 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: know how to scratch and claw their way into the playoffs. 577 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not discounting anyone. I know things haven't looked 578 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 1: good recently for the forty nine ers, yet they're the 579 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 1: forty nine ers. The Rams have been kind of up 580 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,080 Speaker 1: and down, yet Matthew Stafford Sean McVay that is a 581 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: dangerous quarterback head coach combination. And then the Seahawks they 582 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,479 Speaker 1: are still trying to figure things out yet at one point, 583 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: they worth three and oh and you just don't walk 584 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: into three and oh, you're doing something right when you're 585 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: having that kind of success, especially early in the season. 586 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 3: And if Seattle beats the Cardinals, then it's a whole 587 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 3: different ballgame in the division. It really is that close 588 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 3: right now. 589 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: Revenge game for you? No, do you do? You believe 590 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: in that stuff? Oh? 591 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 3: I thought we were talking about for some of the players. 592 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah. 593 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 3: But are the revenge games? 594 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: Sure, it's a nice storyline. Again, it goes back to 595 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: the quarterbacks facing quarterbacks, But revenge games facing your former 596 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: team you play. Did you play a little bit extra 597 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: or it's a little bit extra motivation? 598 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: Absolutely, you have extra juice. You want to go out 599 00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 3: and show the team that cut you or decided you 600 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,960 Speaker 3: weren't worth the money that you are one hundred percent. 601 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 3: There's a handful of players who have played for the 602 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 3: Seahawks over the time. Defensive lineman LJ. 603 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 1: Collier. 604 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 3: He was a draft pick first round No. Fourth, one 605 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: of the top rounds for Seattle. I can't think off 606 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 3: the top of my head. Not a first round blanking. 607 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: No, not a first round. 608 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: But he was a high, high draft pick for the Seahawks. 609 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: DJ Dallas was a former Seahawks and often to lineman 610 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 3: Evan Brown spat some time in Seattle. 611 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: Just one season, just one season for Evan Brown, yet 612 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: he was the starting center and all of a sudden, 613 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: to your point, did they think they could do better 614 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: or the money wasn't there and all of a sudden 615 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: he's out the door. But I think it does matter 616 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,280 Speaker 1: a little bit more, perhaps for players who were drafted 617 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,400 Speaker 1: to a team and they neither said yeah, we don't 618 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,560 Speaker 1: think you're good enough, we don't need you anymore, we 619 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: can't pay you what you think you're worth. Then all 620 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's okay, we're going to show you 621 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: what you're missing out on. And I think maybe for 622 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: an LJ. Collier specifically, because he'll be on the field 623 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 1: more than did you, DJ Dallas. Yet I don't know. 624 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 1: Maybe when we eat our second dynamic kickoff return for 625 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 1: a touchdown this year. 626 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: It's it's more about proving yourself right over proving a 627 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,120 Speaker 3: team or an organization wrong. But absolutely these revenge games 628 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 3: they matter to players one hundred. 629 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: So you got the revenge game for Evan Brown, LG. 630 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: Car DJ Dallas and then the hometown of Buddha Baker, 631 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: and yeah, you always kind of play. You want to 632 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: do well in front of friends and family, even though 633 00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: you might be the quote unquote outsider. Yes even knowd 634 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 1: boh same how many people might be at the game, 635 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: did not. It's always a good rooting section, especially considering 636 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: what he has meant to that area and how accomplished 637 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: he was growing up there. Forget outside of the high school, 638 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: but she's growing up as well, and then just how 639 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: well he plays. 640 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: Everybody wants a Budda Baker number. 641 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 1: Three jerseys. You might see wearing Arizona Cardinals color. 642 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 3: You know what I feel like if you're showing up 643 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: to lumen Field in a three Jersey Seahawks fans, the 644 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 3: twelves can't get mad at you for that. 645 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: No, because you they respect it. Everybody loves Buddha Baker. 646 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 1: You can't be upset. 647 00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 3: Even better, if you're wearing an old number from Baker 648 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 3: before he was three. 649 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think thirty two, thirty six. I believe 650 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: those were the two previous numbers. If I remember correctly, 651 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: I think that's what it was. 652 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: Thumbs up from Cody across the world. 653 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 1: If Cody's giving the thumbs up, then that's all that mattered, right. 654 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 3: Well, us, that's a thumbs up to wrap it up. 655 00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 1: I have not checked the forecast. Do I need to 656 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: worry on Sunday? 657 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: Check the forecast because it's Seattle. I'm gonna prepare for rain. 658 00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 3: It's going to rain at some point. I think it 659 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 3: is supposed to rain Saturday. So I'm preparing for rain. 660 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: Preparation. I'm sorry, Well, I'm gonna get this right. The 661 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: separation is in the preparation. I believe that's what Buddha 662 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: Baker said a couple of weeks ago. And I heard 663 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: that and I was like, that is outstanding. How do 664 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: you separate yourself? It's in the preparation. 665 00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,479 Speaker 3: Thank you, Buddha Baker. Thank you Craig Greelou for that 666 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:39,240 Speaker 3: wise advice, very sage Buddha. 667 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: Baker's advice to you, Dan. Thank you. And on that note, 668 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:44,719 Speaker 1: we'll put a lit on. This edition of Cardinals Covered two, 669 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: presented by a Hyundai partner of the Arizona Cardinals has 670 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 1: always special thanks to our executive producer jim On Mohundre, 671 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: our ASSOCIP producer Cody Fincher for Danny Serek I'm Craig Rayolou. 672 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you next time here on Cardinals Cover two.