WEBVTT - Can A Woman Raise A Man

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<v Speaker 1>When I right, y'all, I'm across the USC Compton Mottes

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<v Speaker 1>leave a start rating a comment. So when we at

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<v Speaker 1>the school, we just left out the six hundred young men.

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<v Speaker 1>At least five of them their fathers wasn't in their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>So watch so let me tell you where that comes from.

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<v Speaker 1>That comes from a guy that's broken and he don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know how to treat women. And then it comes

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<v Speaker 1>from a woman who was broken and her father wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>in her life, and so she thinks he cute and

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks she cute, and then they get together and

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<v Speaker 1>watch this. She end up pregnant and he not ready

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<v Speaker 1>to be no father nor husband, so he like, oh, man,

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<v Speaker 1>now they got baby, Mama drama. Now she raised a

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<v Speaker 1>young boy or a young girl and the father ain't there.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when they grow up, the young boy don't

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<v Speaker 1>really know how to be a man because his father

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't in his life. Or if it's a young girl,

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<v Speaker 1>she don't know the value that she has because her

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<v Speaker 1>father wasn't in her life. And as soon as you

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<v Speaker 1>meet a young guy, and as soon as he meet

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<v Speaker 1>a cute little girl, they get together and the cycle

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<v Speaker 1>cause tinues. So I want you to know that's why

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<v Speaker 1>I took you there, because I just left the high

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<v Speaker 1>school with six hundred young African American men, and over

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred of them their fathers are not in their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the problem. That's why I came to see us.

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<v Speaker 1>You to tell you, when you meet this, I know

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<v Speaker 1>she cute, but you gotta ask yourself, are you willing

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<v Speaker 1>to take care of the child. Are you ready to

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<v Speaker 1>put a ring on it? Is she wife of material?

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<v Speaker 1>Like do you even know anything about her family? But

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<v Speaker 1>you were holding and you sleep for her, and now

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<v Speaker 1>you help adding to the system. So I'm asking myself,

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<v Speaker 1>where are those five hundred fathers? Are they dead? Are

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<v Speaker 1>they in prison? Did they get married somewhere else? And

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<v Speaker 1>Mayor knows that, Like where are they? I'm looking at

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred young brothers that don't have a dad in

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<v Speaker 1>their life. That's a problem, and I want the mission

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<v Speaker 1>to help reverse that curse. You know what I'm saying, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we gotta make the necessary precautions so we not have

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<v Speaker 1>it here having kids just running around like listen, God,

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<v Speaker 1>it's levels to it and it breaks my heart. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>be going to school's girls become enough to me talking

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<v Speaker 1>about my dad. It's not in my life and why

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<v Speaker 1>don't he love me? And she crying in my chest?

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<v Speaker 1>And I ain't gonn front. I pissed. I'm like, where buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>and he probably somewhere. Think he's smooth, Think he cute

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere on Instagram, Snapchat, Like you know what I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 1>kicking it. But his daughter got her face buried in

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<v Speaker 1>my chest. She's crying. That's the problem. So I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to feel honored to stand before so many young men.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta ask yourself, are you ready to really be men?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you want to just be adult males? There's

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<v Speaker 1>a difference. How are you gonna be men of honor,

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<v Speaker 1>men of valor, men of substance, men of integrity, men

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<v Speaker 1>that have responsibilities, men of leadership that people look at

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<v Speaker 1>you and you can be trusted to lead them and

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<v Speaker 1>guide them in the right direction. That type of men,

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<v Speaker 1>men that have been trusted with influence. You know what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. But you say, you know, since I got

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<v Speaker 1>this number on my chest, since I got this number

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<v Speaker 1>on my back, since I got this ball in my hand,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what people look up to me. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>role model. It starts now, But you gotta start asking

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<v Speaker 1>me or something like, yo, how do I get to

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<v Speaker 1>that point to why I even want to desire that?

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<v Speaker 1>What's happening? What's happening? Was happening like it? Welcome you

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<v Speaker 1>to another episode of the Gangster Chronicles podcast. Now, my

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<v Speaker 1>man James just taking care of some relione and a

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<v Speaker 1>to be on in the minute. But I got some

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<v Speaker 1>special home girls in the house with me tonight. I

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<v Speaker 1>got rid in Britain from the Cousins podcast, the Home Girls.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I reached out to you guys the other

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<v Speaker 1>day or you girls, you girls, you women the other day,

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<v Speaker 1>I was having a conversation with one of my partners then,

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<v Speaker 1>and he suffers from what I like to call toxic masculinity. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks the man is supposed to do everything, is

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the woman's supposed to stay at home, in

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<v Speaker 1>the house and do everything. And then he told me

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<v Speaker 1>that women are incapable of praising a male a wrong man. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I got some of his points, but I disagreed with

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<v Speaker 1>him on a lot of points too, And so that's

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<v Speaker 1>why I wanted to get you two in here as mothers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, two mothers, right, two mothers, two mothers and

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<v Speaker 1>two black women. And it was normally in our culture

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<v Speaker 1>you do normally see the woman raising the sun kids

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<v Speaker 1>body self, doing everything on their own, even if the

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<v Speaker 1>father was involved. But once that father used to leaves

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<v Speaker 1>the house, everything is on a woman. M They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be I mean, I I have a son

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<v Speaker 1>and so his father, me and his father broke up, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was like two. But I never felt like

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<v Speaker 1>I could write like like that. I didn't have him

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<v Speaker 1>to be his dad, like to raise him, like even

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<v Speaker 1>though he wasn't in the home like he was there

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<v Speaker 1>and now because I included him in a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm a single mom, like I had to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Um. I do have my son is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>and um, but I did have certain males in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Felt it wasn't just me per se, but the majority

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<v Speaker 1>of the time it was me, Like he's in the

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<v Speaker 1>household with me. But I mean I mean like my

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<v Speaker 1>brother or you know what I mean, like his big

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<v Speaker 1>cousin or something like that. Like they would step in

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<v Speaker 1>where there were where I couldn't know what I'm saying exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>That's big, you know, because some people don't have that, right, No,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people don't have it. Um. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>My thing is, it's always it's hard anyway when you

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<v Speaker 1>had that separation, right because now you're living in two

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<v Speaker 1>different houses and one of you, one of the parents,

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be there with that boy full time. And

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<v Speaker 1>it usually don't start into those little dudes turned around

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<v Speaker 1>twelve eleven and twelve, they started getting tall, they started

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<v Speaker 1>getting bigger, and they started talking back. Did y'all Did

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<v Speaker 1>y'all ever have any difficulty? Because I know I always

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<v Speaker 1>had a male figure. Even though my Pops wasn't in

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<v Speaker 1>the house with me, he was around and I would

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<v Speaker 1>go see him on you know, every other weekend or whenever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, whenever he wanted to come. Whenever I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to go out, I could. But for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>all the discipline was going on with my step pops.

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<v Speaker 1>He was way different than my daddy. When I want

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<v Speaker 1>my daddy, I was able to pretty much do what

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to because he was out there. He wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>trying to discipliney when I was out there. My dad

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<v Speaker 1>was more like a big own boy anything else. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't no discipline going on. If I wanted to drink

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<v Speaker 1>a beer, I could. If I wanted to stay out

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<v Speaker 1>two or three in the morning, I could. I was

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<v Speaker 1>doing everything because he didn't have that disciplinary and type

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<v Speaker 1>of thing going on. He was just so happy to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to kick it with me. He was letting

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<v Speaker 1>me do whatever I wanted to. Now, back at home,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to be in the house at a certain time,

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting the mask, wepons and everything else when

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<v Speaker 1>I got his line with y'all. So you would say

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<v Speaker 1>he was necessary to have a man in the house. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my son's father, and mean, we we broke up, we separated, so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>he was with me. But up until he was I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he was all he was. His dad was always around.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, when he turned about fifteen, he went to

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<v Speaker 1>go stay with his dad in the same city, same school.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, his dad actually moved up to the city

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<v Speaker 1>where we were because we lived in the valley. He

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<v Speaker 1>lived in l A. And we just always had this

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<v Speaker 1>thing where it was like, Okay, when he gets to

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<v Speaker 1>junior high, he's gonna come and be with you, because

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<v Speaker 1>I just I felt like what you said, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna puff up. It's just things as a woman

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<v Speaker 1>like I just can't teach him or show him or

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, get him to understand. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that um him, if he would have had

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<v Speaker 1>the same type of emotional intelligence that that I like,

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<v Speaker 1>if I would have raised him with my emotional intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>versus him seeing when his dad handles things, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more logical not to say that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but where women were more emotional. So I think that

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<v Speaker 1>that plays a big role, you know, in how he

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<v Speaker 1>handles things in life. And sometimes I don't get it. Still,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what you know? So, yeah, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to have a male figure, to have somebody there

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<v Speaker 1>life full time. I think it's important. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>very important, though I don't think, like I'm gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about my mom's for a minute. My mom's with lady

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<v Speaker 1>hands down. My mom said nasty hand game. So if

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<v Speaker 1>I got the line, she would just punch me in

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth. She wasn't playing around, right, But it was

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<v Speaker 1>when at a certain point that wasn't going for that.

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<v Speaker 1>No more so was sher single mother. You know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I had my step pops in the house and now

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<v Speaker 1>uncle around, so they did most of the discipline and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff because I did. If you know, I think every

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<v Speaker 1>boy has a tendency when they get to a certain

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<v Speaker 1>age to swell up a little bit because my mama's.

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<v Speaker 1>A big thing would be you can wash dishes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can wake up in the morning and Saturday in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning and clean up your room. You had shots

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<v Speaker 1>to do. I would have to cook for my brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and everything's left a while. Especially when I was around

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<v Speaker 1>my little homies, I wasn't having that. I just wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>having And I don't think I was a bad shout

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<v Speaker 1>with I just think men in particular, when a boy

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<v Speaker 1>is four team, he's a man for all practical purposes,

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<v Speaker 1>he's usually figuring physically stronger than his mama. So if

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<v Speaker 1>he decides to just nut up in there, what does

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<v Speaker 1>the woman go do? What can she do? And like

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<v Speaker 1>bread it is, you know you have brothers around, you

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<v Speaker 1>had other males around because it dude, take us. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna tell you, I got two sons and I had

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<v Speaker 1>to beat both of the asses at one time. They

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't bad kids, but they I've had to funk them

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<v Speaker 1>up a couple of times just to show them, like

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<v Speaker 1>you you can't make this team. But luckily I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had to do that. You know what I'm saying, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>my kids, pretty Um he's pretty you know, he's pretty chill,

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<v Speaker 1>like my My main thing with with him for me

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<v Speaker 1>is I wanted him to experience life and stuff like

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<v Speaker 1>that and like get like be outside a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more like he you know, he's more like he'll he

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<v Speaker 1>built his own computer, like he's more into like reading

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, Like he don't really give a

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<v Speaker 1>damn by a whole lot of stuff. He just really

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<v Speaker 1>got on social media, like he's happy that he got

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<v Speaker 1>his twitch and now he's got stuff streaming and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But honestly, my son is not really out

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<v Speaker 1>there like that. So I really haven't had that issued out.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been around like friends that have do have sons

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<v Speaker 1>and they tell me this ship and not be like, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how I will react because I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>had that for me. It's pretty much just trying to.

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<v Speaker 1>I really just want to make sure that he's straight

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<v Speaker 1>and he knows what he needs to do, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. If I ever was to not be here,

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<v Speaker 1>like I want him to be able to be you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean, just responsible and just do the

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<v Speaker 1>things that he needs to do. But it's hard because

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really say, like everything needs to do as

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<v Speaker 1>a man, you know what I'm saying. I can't say

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<v Speaker 1>that you feel me like I could tell him what

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<v Speaker 1>I think. I look, you know what I mean, But

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<v Speaker 1>I can't really genuinely say like something you need to

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<v Speaker 1>do this. I could tell him what I like or

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<v Speaker 1>what you know. I know other women or girls like

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, but no, we as a man, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you do that? You know, see both of y'all these

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<v Speaker 1>cool moms, and you had a cool son, and every

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<v Speaker 1>kid is different. Like my oldest son. I only had

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<v Speaker 1>to do that to him one time. I've never had

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<v Speaker 1>to walk my oldest son. He was always good, never

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<v Speaker 1>told lives my other one. It's like he came out

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<v Speaker 1>the wound rage to rags Hill. You feel what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just a free spirit just from the time

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<v Speaker 1>he could walk. He was always into some ships. So

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely would say that my wife could have raised

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<v Speaker 1>him on her own because he was just too just them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to look for the right word for because

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<v Speaker 1>he wouldn't have kids, always had good grades, always was

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<v Speaker 1>still an athlete, always did everything he was supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>But he was just very independent, had his mind made up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do what the funk I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's gonna stuck. I got a house full right now.

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<v Speaker 1>So how old are your children? My son is eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>oh right, but half the football team is always here,

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<v Speaker 1>so I've always got at least six or seven boys

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<v Speaker 1>in the house every day. It's been like that. But um,

0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.160
<v Speaker 1>I've had kids like that since I've been coaching football

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<v Speaker 1>for the last thirteen years. So I've got kids around

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<v Speaker 1>here who I've been around since stay where eleven twelve

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<v Speaker 1>years old? So I'm kind of YouTube. Uh. You know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of kids, you know, some kids who dads

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<v Speaker 1>are not around. I deal with a lot of those,

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<v Speaker 1>so they're usually at my almost every day. But you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>differently than what you were saying. Still, you get to

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<v Speaker 1>a point sometimes I guess when us us um, when

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<v Speaker 1>we are growing up. I, like you said, we turned

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen fifteen, Uh, we get that courage. I guess what

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<v Speaker 1>do you want to say? Talk back ship? Uh? I

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<v Speaker 1>was raised in the household, single parent household. Um, but

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<v Speaker 1>my parents got divorced. Father worked at General Motors. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Mother was a registered you know, certified nurse and assistant.

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<v Speaker 1>So um we had the house you know, mother, father

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<v Speaker 1>keeping me and my sister. But we witnessed a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of domestic violence in my household. Yeah. Um, so my

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<v Speaker 1>mom was one of those who you know, maybe once,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe twice, three times nigger No, So she left my pulse.

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<v Speaker 1>So my scenery changed, you know. It uh went from

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<v Speaker 1>the dad mom in the household to the single mom

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<v Speaker 1>moving to the what you call a ghetto, you know. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>we left South Gates, it moved, and I had to move,

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<v Speaker 1>as maybe about a four or five year old kid.

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<v Speaker 1>We moved to Compton and the rest was history. My

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<v Speaker 1>father wasn't around, you know, MS typical as a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of kids in mine, drug abuse, you know, domestic violence

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<v Speaker 1>in the house. I was a seventies kid, so, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a lot of at So I was practically

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<v Speaker 1>raised by my mom's But I gotta ask whoopings with switches?

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<v Speaker 1>My mom was from Gulfport, Mississippi, so I got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of that South treatment, you know. Um, I was

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<v Speaker 1>scared of my mom's growing up. You know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to do ship to out of line because I

0:16:25.040 --> 0:16:29.400
<v Speaker 1>knew getting out of line sid She went outside and

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<v Speaker 1>got a switch off the tree and usual to get

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<v Speaker 1>your ass with. So how do you think that affects

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship with women now? Like now? I I never

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<v Speaker 1>had a horrible relationships with women. I was I've never

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<v Speaker 1>been physical with women, you know. Um, I think that

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<v Speaker 1>just came from um watching what happened in my household

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<v Speaker 1>as far as my dad and mom was concerned. So

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<v Speaker 1>even though I went through the transitions of of gang

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<v Speaker 1>banging and selling dope and all of that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>never used to what they could. I never hit on women.

0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I never used to beat on female. Are you whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>All that ship, But I don't know, it was never

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<v Speaker 1>my forete because, like I said, growing up in the

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<v Speaker 1>household with mom's and my sister, you know, but then

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<v Speaker 1>I still had unties around and you know, heavy in

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<v Speaker 1>the church. You know, we had to go to Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>school and all that type of ship. So I think

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of put me on the path to where

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to be a straight kid. Like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know your sons, they we have different choices nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't really have too many choices. You know. Father

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<v Speaker 1>was gone, Mom struggled, she worked at I got influenced

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<v Speaker 1>by the streets at an early age because my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>worked from eleven o'clock at night to seven o'clock in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning. So I was left to the streets, you know,

0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:16.800
<v Speaker 1>me and my older sister. Um. So it wasn't the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that my mom's couldn't raise me or didn't teach

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<v Speaker 1>me values because uh, that's why you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>go to the extreme as far as the ship I

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<v Speaker 1>got into, because I always used to think in the

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<v Speaker 1>back of my head, my mom's gonna fuck me up

0:18:37.480 --> 0:18:40.399
<v Speaker 1>if I get caught or you know. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I started gang banging and doing all that ship. And

0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't necessarily because you know, you hear the stories

0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:52.359
<v Speaker 1>of your my mom was on dope, my father was gone,

0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:57.240
<v Speaker 1>I had no I basically just I started gang banging

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<v Speaker 1>and ship as the rebellion of feeling like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just what niggas did in my neighborhood and growing up. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And then I guess because I didn't have a father around,

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<v Speaker 1>I started like still saying getting that little you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because father wasn't around. And you know, fifteen sixteen, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>seeing dudes slang dope and gang bang. So that gave

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<v Speaker 1>me a little you know, it gave me a little

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<v Speaker 1>attitude is to where, um, you know, if my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>would tell me something, you know, Uh, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>I ever got out of line or cuss my mom

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<v Speaker 1>out or talk ship like that. I just was influenced

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<v Speaker 1>by the streets. Now, if my father was around who knows.

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<v Speaker 1>But my mom tried to do everything that a father

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<v Speaker 1>would do. Uh. She put me in sports when she could.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, she always participated at school and ship like that. Um,

0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.040
<v Speaker 1>she sent us to a private school. You know, me

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<v Speaker 1>and my sister So and we lived in one of

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<v Speaker 1>the baddest parts of Compton. But you know, so your

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<v Speaker 1>figures was from the street or that you didn't have.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have no we I didn't have like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>all the family who had transitioned from Mississippi to here,

0:20:28.920 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 1>they were all females. There weren't There weren't no males here.

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<v Speaker 1>There were no uncles or big brothers or you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have none of that. All my all my

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<v Speaker 1>family were women, my aunties. I had like four aunties

0:20:46.680 --> 0:20:53.320
<v Speaker 1>who transitioned from Mississippi to California. So and they whole family.

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.359
<v Speaker 1>It was like what seven eight girls and one boy.

0:20:56.840 --> 0:21:01.320
<v Speaker 1>So I didn't have uncles and fluent said. My influences

0:21:01.359 --> 0:21:05.720
<v Speaker 1>came from when moms went to work. You know, the

0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:10.400
<v Speaker 1>sister boyfriend come over, he from so and so. He's

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<v Speaker 1>selling dope. He won't he won't when you walked to

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<v Speaker 1>the store down the street, sniggers on the corner banging

0:21:17.200 --> 0:21:20.840
<v Speaker 1>and slanging, and you know, hey, hang with us, my

0:21:20.920 --> 0:21:23.359
<v Speaker 1>little nigga, Hey come to the store with us, my

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<v Speaker 1>little I didn't have no male figure who was like,

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<v Speaker 1>don't do that, you know. And my mom's because she

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<v Speaker 1>was so busy with trying to raise us and pay

0:21:34.920 --> 0:21:39.600
<v Speaker 1>the bills. She next she didn't if you the asked her,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, my son, don't gang bang. Oh no, my son,

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<v Speaker 1>don't you know? Because at home, I still was the

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<v Speaker 1>disciplined kid. I wasn't the outrageous kid when I came

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:56.080
<v Speaker 1>off the block. You know. I'd go around the house,

0:21:56.520 --> 0:21:59.399
<v Speaker 1>tucked the gun, tucked the dope, and then come in

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<v Speaker 1>the house and be yes, ma'am, no, ma'am, you get me.

0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I never was like, oh man, fuck this ship Monty

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:11.040
<v Speaker 1>wool up until I guess when you're a middle child,

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<v Speaker 1>you start feeling a little you know, my sister was

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<v Speaker 1>older then my mom's had a young another child, so

0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I started feeling that middle child ship. You know, he

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:27.439
<v Speaker 1>getting she getting shipped. So that's what led me to

0:22:27.440 --> 0:22:30.040
<v Speaker 1>start gang banging and ship because I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just trying to be rebellious. But I never felt

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<v Speaker 1>like my mom's did a bad job or like she

0:22:41.520 --> 0:22:45.119
<v Speaker 1>didn't raise me right, you get me, because if anything,

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<v Speaker 1>she tried to instill a lot of ship in me

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<v Speaker 1>to where I would grow up and be a righteous

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:56.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, man, human being or whatever. But it was

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<v Speaker 1>just those. It was just those, like I guess, is

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<v Speaker 1>what you call the obstacles that you would have to

0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:05.000
<v Speaker 1>go through it sometimes as a young man, that you

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:07.800
<v Speaker 1>have to figure out. And that's what I did in

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:12.840
<v Speaker 1>those transitions of of from from sixteen seventeen of eighteen,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find the identity of who I was gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be because around me it was nothing but gang bangers

0:23:20.640 --> 0:23:25.919
<v Speaker 1>and dope dealers. You know. Um, I lost the interest

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:32.359
<v Speaker 1>of being. Uh, you know what my mom tried to

0:23:32.560 --> 0:23:35.680
<v Speaker 1>instill in me, and I guess that that comes from

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:37.440
<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that would have happened if

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<v Speaker 1>my father was in the house, you get me. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>does that does that affect your relationship with other men?

0:23:43.680 --> 0:23:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Because like I said to me, I think men are

0:23:47.640 --> 0:23:51.879
<v Speaker 1>more logical than women. So how do you think that

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>affects your relationship with other men? Or how did it

0:23:54.600 --> 0:23:59.840
<v Speaker 1>affect your relationship with other men? Um? I didn't have

0:24:00.119 --> 0:24:05.160
<v Speaker 1>too many relationships with other men as far as you know,

0:24:05.880 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>true friends. Instead, it took me until I got older interactions.

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:18.000
<v Speaker 1>How do you think it affected your interactions with UM?

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I was. I really didn't interact with other men, so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. I was always guarded, quiet, UH never wanted

0:24:31.160 --> 0:24:34.439
<v Speaker 1>to be around. I'm like that today. I don't like

0:24:34.520 --> 0:24:36.639
<v Speaker 1>going a lot of places. I don't like being a

0:24:36.640 --> 0:24:40.280
<v Speaker 1>lot around a lot of people. UM, I could count

0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:46.719
<v Speaker 1>on probably my one hand the male friends I know

0:24:47.160 --> 0:24:50.000
<v Speaker 1>or have you get me? So, I don't know. I

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>guess it was just being raised by my mom and

0:24:54.080 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 1>my father not being around. It didn't give me a

0:24:57.000 --> 0:25:00.200
<v Speaker 1>resentment towards him because I still was able to talk

0:25:00.320 --> 0:25:04.640
<v Speaker 1>to him. I mean, he was living in Oklahoma, got remarried.

0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:09.439
<v Speaker 1>But you know, UM, I just felt as as I

0:25:09.480 --> 0:25:15.240
<v Speaker 1>started growing up, uh, anything that transitioned with him had

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.639
<v Speaker 1>turned into like whatever, you know, And it took a

0:25:19.720 --> 0:25:25.119
<v Speaker 1>while for uh me to communicate with him on a

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>regular you know. But I never had no resentment to like, man,

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:34.080
<v Speaker 1>fuck him and whatever. Whatever. You know. I was kind

0:25:34.080 --> 0:25:36.520
<v Speaker 1>of glad he left because I got tired of seeing

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:40.080
<v Speaker 1>my mom's fucked with you get me? So I didn't

0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:43.720
<v Speaker 1>have a UH. I still used to go over his house.

0:25:43.760 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I used to take some of the vacations to go

0:25:45.760 --> 0:25:49.040
<v Speaker 1>see him in Oklahoma. And I think when I got

0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 1>to the point of maybe around seventeen eighteen and we

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:57.040
<v Speaker 1>had a disagreement, I stopped talking to him. I probably

0:25:57.040 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 1>didn't talk to him for ten years. My sister kept

0:26:00.320 --> 0:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>My sister kept from contact with him a lot, and

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:09.640
<v Speaker 1>UH up until he passed the nineties. Seven. I started

0:26:09.640 --> 0:26:13.359
<v Speaker 1>communicating with him, like probably a year before he passed,

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<v Speaker 1>But once I started doing my thing and was working

0:26:18.000 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>and moving around, I just stopped communicating with him. You

0:26:23.080 --> 0:26:26.600
<v Speaker 1>know the interesting thing about that dynamic eight, the way

0:26:26.640 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 1>we are raised definitely influences the people that we eventually

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:33.199
<v Speaker 1>come because eight is right. I've known eight for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, and I swear the first year I was

0:26:36.040 --> 0:26:38.199
<v Speaker 1>just trying, you know, you're trying to get to know somebody, right,

0:26:39.080 --> 0:26:41.680
<v Speaker 1>He wouldn't hardly talk. Then the more we came around

0:26:41.760 --> 0:26:44.080
<v Speaker 1>and started talking, he was actually talking to me and

0:26:44.160 --> 0:26:47.320
<v Speaker 1>laughing and joggling everything. One day and I was like, Okay,

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I guess I finally get the meat. You know, Aaron,

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>now you see what I'm saying. So he definitely checks

0:26:53.600 --> 0:26:57.600
<v Speaker 1>you out first before he He's definitely guarded and reserved

0:26:57.680 --> 0:27:00.439
<v Speaker 1>around people. He don't do a whole lot of talking.

0:27:01.040 --> 0:27:04.040
<v Speaker 1>You know. Now we have conversations, some really good conversations

0:27:04.080 --> 0:27:06.800
<v Speaker 1>about everything about fatherhood, about what the boys are doing,

0:27:06.880 --> 0:27:10.560
<v Speaker 1>everything else, but mine was kind of the opposite. And um,

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>one of the biggest things I learned to respect about

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.960
<v Speaker 1>my mom is my father was a very abusive man.

0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:19.439
<v Speaker 1>But I never heard about that from my mom. I

0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:21.679
<v Speaker 1>heard about that later on from my uncle's as I

0:27:21.720 --> 0:27:24.159
<v Speaker 1>got older, because they didn't like him for whatever reason,

0:27:24.600 --> 0:27:26.600
<v Speaker 1>and I would always wonder, why why don't you care

0:27:26.600 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 1>about my pops? Like why don't you like him? You

0:27:28.400 --> 0:27:30.840
<v Speaker 1>always talking mess about him? And I got an uncle

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that just let me have it one day and told

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:35.160
<v Speaker 1>me that Nick he this and that one thing. Whem,

0:27:35.160 --> 0:27:36.800
<v Speaker 1>I had to fuck him up behind, like you know,

0:27:37.480 --> 0:27:40.280
<v Speaker 1>And so it made me start looking at my pops

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:43.679
<v Speaker 1>a little different because my mom's is my everything. So

0:27:43.760 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>when I found about about that, and plus he did

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:48.639
<v Speaker 1>some dumbship one time, like my pops still had a

0:27:48.640 --> 0:27:50.280
<v Speaker 1>lot of mature to do, and he told me that

0:27:50.359 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>he apologized in so many words much later on in life,

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:55.919
<v Speaker 1>because it got to the point, I don't even have

0:27:56.080 --> 0:27:59.440
<v Speaker 1>my father's last name. I have my stepfather's last name,

0:28:00.080 --> 0:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>So it would be a time to war when he

0:28:02.080 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>would come out here to California, great grandfather, like, we're

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:08.280
<v Speaker 1>cool and everything, my grand my kids know him as

0:28:08.280 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>their grandfather and everything he comes out were kicking and

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.480
<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. But we took a ride one day,

0:28:13.520 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>just going to the grocery store the street that wound

0:28:16.160 --> 0:28:17.960
<v Speaker 1>up being a forty minute ride. I wound up a

0:28:18.040 --> 0:28:20.480
<v Speaker 1>riverside somewhere just wind up, you know, riding and talking

0:28:20.480 --> 0:28:23.200
<v Speaker 1>to him, because his whole thing would be all the time,

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:25.440
<v Speaker 1>why don't you change your last name and such and such?

0:28:25.480 --> 0:28:27.400
<v Speaker 1>You know you ain't this and that, And it kind

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>of pissed me off a little bit because I said,

0:28:29.400 --> 0:28:33.159
<v Speaker 1>hold on, you had a choice. My last name was Munson,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.280
<v Speaker 1>which is my mama's maiden name up until I was

0:28:36.359 --> 0:28:39.160
<v Speaker 1>like eight year nine years old. You had plenty of

0:28:39.200 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>time during that period to come there and be like, hey,

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I need my son's last name, mon need to have

0:28:43.560 --> 0:28:46.000
<v Speaker 1>my name of the first certificate. But you wasn't the

0:28:46.000 --> 0:28:48.000
<v Speaker 1>wrong because you was hiding because you thought my mom

0:28:48.080 --> 0:28:50.400
<v Speaker 1>was trying to get you on child support. Whatever I

0:28:50.440 --> 0:28:53.000
<v Speaker 1>heard all about it, he was alright, you couldn't catch

0:28:53.080 --> 0:28:55.280
<v Speaker 1>him hiding and at its hiding the basements and everything

0:28:55.320 --> 0:29:01.360
<v Speaker 1>else to him. Yeah, said the tune. This happened to me.

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:04.840
<v Speaker 1>I was maybe thirty five at the time, maybe thirty five.

0:29:06.080 --> 0:29:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I was already a grown man because he kept pressing

0:29:08.440 --> 0:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>me over the years, and I got tired of being

0:29:10.560 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>nice about it because it would piss me up all

0:29:13.800 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 1>be like, man, how dare you so the man that

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 1>did raised me? Willie Still he's dead right now. There's

0:29:20.160 --> 0:29:22.720
<v Speaker 1>no way I would dishonor his what he did for

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:24.920
<v Speaker 1>me by just saying, you know what, what you did

0:29:24.920 --> 0:29:27.440
<v Speaker 1>for me, Pops, I'm gonna change my name because a

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:30.440
<v Speaker 1>lot of who I am like that. My step Pops

0:29:30.600 --> 0:29:34.200
<v Speaker 1>was twenty five years older than my mom, so he

0:29:34.240 --> 0:29:36.160
<v Speaker 1>was one of them dude to do to troll haird

0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the cigar all the time and would leave your suite

0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:42.080
<v Speaker 1>and throw the Cadillac right. But he didn't play no games.

0:29:42.480 --> 0:29:44.520
<v Speaker 1>He took care of our house, He took care of

0:29:44.600 --> 0:29:46.720
<v Speaker 1>all the bills. We had everything we wanted. He put

0:29:46.760 --> 0:29:48.920
<v Speaker 1>us in our first house. But he was always a

0:29:49.000 --> 0:29:50.800
<v Speaker 1>dude that went to work. So it was no laying

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:53.000
<v Speaker 1>up in Wheel's house. You wouldn't go lay up to

0:29:53.080 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 1>nine or ten o'clock in the morning. You know, you

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:59.600
<v Speaker 1>said your people some god Ford eight. My family was

0:29:59.680 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>from of Port, Mrs. And my father was from Tampa, Florida,

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:09.200
<v Speaker 1>So I come from South Um. But I correctly what

0:30:09.240 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing. What I can say is I don't know

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>if Derek is uh you know, and I guess women

0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:19.479
<v Speaker 1>could you know, you could y'all could answer this. Do

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>you feel if as a single mother, there is a

0:30:23.000 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>point in time to where if you have a son

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:31.960
<v Speaker 1>that he needs that may all influence to take him

0:30:32.000 --> 0:30:35.120
<v Speaker 1>to the next level as far as being a man,

0:30:35.280 --> 0:30:40.040
<v Speaker 1>do you feel that you need that man figure to

0:30:40.080 --> 0:30:43.920
<v Speaker 1>be able to raise your son or give him the

0:30:44.000 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>guidance to be a certain type of man, or do

0:30:48.640 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>you feel like as mama should I got this? No,

0:30:56.920 --> 0:31:02.040
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've had this so, I mean, but I

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:04.840
<v Speaker 1>did come to a point in life where I was

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>just like shit. I think it was when he got

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:14.200
<v Speaker 1>about maybe like fourteen or fifteen. May I think ye again,

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>like it's certain stuff that he got to be going

0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.720
<v Speaker 1>through or you know what I'm saying that he my

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.400
<v Speaker 1>son is like introverted. Like now he's like now he

0:31:22.440 --> 0:31:24.880
<v Speaker 1>goes out, he does his thing, he has a little click,

0:31:24.960 --> 0:31:26.920
<v Speaker 1>he does whatever. But it took him a while to

0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:28.560
<v Speaker 1>even do all that. Like I used to sit there

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.040
<v Speaker 1>and be like, you don't guard like you do you lucky,

0:31:32.280 --> 0:31:34.080
<v Speaker 1>like you let him be him. He gonna do what

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you do. So yeah, like he literally, like I said,

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>he was just pretty much like into his computers and

0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:45.760
<v Speaker 1>just reading and like stuff like that. He really wasn't

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:47.920
<v Speaker 1>like you, He'll come and socialize with the family for

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:51.320
<v Speaker 1>a minute like whatever. But but that's when I mean,

0:31:51.320 --> 0:31:53.480
<v Speaker 1>you were sending them down to pop us house for

0:31:54.800 --> 0:31:57.840
<v Speaker 1>you have male influences. Right, So my brother, like my

0:31:57.920 --> 0:32:00.040
<v Speaker 1>brothers live out here, lives in Diego, but whenever to

0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.959
<v Speaker 1>get a chance. But then they talked like you know,

0:32:03.080 --> 0:32:05.680
<v Speaker 1>face time or whatever, like they talk or whatever, or

0:32:05.720 --> 0:32:07.200
<v Speaker 1>like if I felt some type of way, I'd be

0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:10.880
<v Speaker 1>like I'll call my brother like hey, like I wis

0:32:10.880 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 1>should I do? And He's like I'm gonna call him,

0:32:12.560 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So my brother like really

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:18.080
<v Speaker 1>helped me a lot um in that situation. Like his

0:32:18.160 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>dad was there, but his dad I think that his

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.520
<v Speaker 1>dad doesn't. I don't think that he was really taught

0:32:23.200 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>really how to. I don't know. I want to say,

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>be a father, but he just really doesn't. He don't

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>really talk that much. I think, Um, I was a

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:41.680
<v Speaker 1>young father. Um I had my first kid when I

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>was seventeen. Um I just started wrapping, um still gaging, banging,

0:32:50.280 --> 0:32:54.960
<v Speaker 1>still trying to be in the streets. So I don't

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:58.960
<v Speaker 1>think that um I was ready to be a father.

0:32:59.360 --> 0:33:04.120
<v Speaker 1>You know, as far as I didn't know Ship, you

0:33:04.200 --> 0:33:08.840
<v Speaker 1>get me, I didn't know and not being not being

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:13.920
<v Speaker 1>raised by a father, basically, ship, what am I supposed

0:33:13.960 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>to do as a father when Ship my father left

0:33:18.880 --> 0:33:22.120
<v Speaker 1>when I was like ship five six? You know everything

0:33:22.200 --> 0:33:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I saw my mother do you know? So, Um, when

0:33:28.000 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I had my first kid, my daughter, you know, I

0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:37.720
<v Speaker 1>tried to do stuff that I knew my dad didn't

0:33:37.760 --> 0:33:41.280
<v Speaker 1>do right, but it was a hard and then she

0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:45.920
<v Speaker 1>was a girl, so you know, Mama was there, Mama whatever.

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>So but when I had my son, knowing that my

0:33:51.720 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 1>father was in around, uh that that influenced me more

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.840
<v Speaker 1>to wanna be a game, joined the game, sell dope

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>and be on the negative. Even though my mom's tried

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 1>to do everything she could. Like you, she tried to

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:12.720
<v Speaker 1>do everything she could. But when me and his mom,

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 1>you know, separated, whatever, my first thing was, I'm gonna

0:34:16.760 --> 0:34:20.200
<v Speaker 1>tak him to stay with me. He was what we

0:34:20.320 --> 0:34:22.960
<v Speaker 1>tried to stay together. I don't know from the time

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 1>he was born, because I don't know. I think I

0:34:26.239 --> 0:34:34.319
<v Speaker 1>wanted to have him have the sense of of of family, right,

0:34:34.880 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, maybe his life will turn a little differently

0:34:40.640 --> 0:34:44.000
<v Speaker 1>than the struggle I went through of having a single

0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:49.880
<v Speaker 1>moment the house. So you know, we moved in together,

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>and you know, from the time he was born to

0:34:53.719 --> 0:34:56.799
<v Speaker 1>the time he was about eight years old, you know,

0:34:56.920 --> 0:35:02.279
<v Speaker 1>we did everything uh enrode in and forwards through programs,

0:35:02.320 --> 0:35:05.120
<v Speaker 1>all that, moved all the way out of the city,

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:09.520
<v Speaker 1>maybe hour and a half outside of l A to

0:35:09.640 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 1>give the I was feeling like maybe this could lead

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:17.080
<v Speaker 1>to a difference. And then so when we separated and

0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>it was time for us to go our separates, I

0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.040
<v Speaker 1>took him with me. He was eleven and he's been

0:35:24.040 --> 0:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>with me ever since. And from the time he was five,

0:35:27.880 --> 0:35:32.319
<v Speaker 1>signed him up for football and I started coaching and

0:35:32.719 --> 0:35:37.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, everything that had something to do with him,

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and as far as represented as a father. I tried

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>to do that because I didn't have that, so I

0:35:45.239 --> 0:35:48.360
<v Speaker 1>figured maybe that would that would make a different path

0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:55.280
<v Speaker 1>for him and would teach him differently than how I

0:35:55.320 --> 0:35:59.600
<v Speaker 1>was towards you know, females coming up or whatever whatever.

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>So I can say he's totally different than what I

0:36:03.440 --> 0:36:06.719
<v Speaker 1>was as a teenager. You get me. He stays in

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.960
<v Speaker 1>the house, he his friends, he plays sports. You know,

0:36:10.600 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 1>he uh no trouble, never gotten any fights or anything

0:36:14.960 --> 0:36:17.400
<v Speaker 1>like that. So I just tried to feel like maybe

0:36:17.440 --> 0:36:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you know the influence of trying to have a father

0:36:20.000 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>in the household. It helps them. It gives the kids

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>a little more you know, it's always good to have

0:36:27.640 --> 0:36:30.319
<v Speaker 1>both parents in the kids. Like I mean, you don't

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:35.879
<v Speaker 1>have to necessarily be together, but I do think that, um,

0:36:35.960 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's a lot of strong women out here

0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:41.759
<v Speaker 1>who can do it on their own, but just the

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.759
<v Speaker 1>influence of having that that strong male figure, because like

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I said, I've seen a lot of kids coming through

0:36:48.600 --> 0:36:54.319
<v Speaker 1>football who dad's never came to practice, you get me.

0:36:54.680 --> 0:36:57.440
<v Speaker 1>And I would wonder how that would make kids feel,

0:36:58.120 --> 0:37:02.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, seeing that I'm with my son seven, you

0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:05.920
<v Speaker 1>get me, whether it's taking him to school, picking him

0:37:06.000 --> 0:37:08.680
<v Speaker 1>up from school, taking him to practice, picking him up

0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:12.240
<v Speaker 1>for practice. I just wanted to show the presence because

0:37:13.320 --> 0:37:15.560
<v Speaker 1>back in my days, like I said, a lot of

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:19.879
<v Speaker 1>us who didn't know how to be fathers was absent. Yeah,

0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.439
<v Speaker 1>we got girls, We got girls pregnant back then, and

0:37:24.080 --> 0:37:27.880
<v Speaker 1>wasn't like we were something. He was living down the street,

0:37:28.000 --> 0:37:30.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, around the corner. It's just that niggas didn't

0:37:30.840 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>know how to be fathers. We wasn't talked, so a

0:37:33.800 --> 0:37:36.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of women had to raise kids on their own,

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 1>and a lot of like I would never like again,

0:37:40.760 --> 0:37:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I would never say that a woman couldn't raise a man.

0:37:43.760 --> 0:37:47.680
<v Speaker 1>But there were certain things that a man could teach us, uh,

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:50.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, his son that a woman couldn't do. But

0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 1>my mom's was a single mom, So I would never

0:37:54.640 --> 0:37:57.720
<v Speaker 1>be in a position to say that a woman couldn't

0:37:57.800 --> 0:38:01.640
<v Speaker 1>raise a man because ship I didn't come out saw

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 1>for nothing like that. My mama was hard on me

0:38:04.440 --> 0:38:08.760
<v Speaker 1>comment growing up. You know, women have definitely proven throughout

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 1>history that they are capable of raising men because we

0:38:13.280 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 1>are result of that. Even though I did have strong man.

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:18.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go back to something you said eight. I

0:38:18.160 --> 0:38:21.560
<v Speaker 1>think that with men, we either go one or two ways.

0:38:21.600 --> 0:38:24.280
<v Speaker 1>If we had a horrible male figure in our life,

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.880
<v Speaker 1>we usually transferred that pain over. You got some guys

0:38:27.880 --> 0:38:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that transferred that pain and they become even worse than

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>their father was. And you got guys like me and eight.

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>They said, you know what, I was always the half

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:39.720
<v Speaker 1>brother in the house like Pops. My mama had kids.

0:38:39.880 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, my two brothers had the same datty. I

0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:44.840
<v Speaker 1>always felt kind of left out a little bit, and

0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:46.879
<v Speaker 1>I think that's why he gave me his last name.

0:38:46.920 --> 0:38:49.000
<v Speaker 1>That made me feel a little bit better. But in

0:38:49.040 --> 0:38:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the back of my mind, I still knew Man. I

0:38:51.560 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 1>wish I could be in the house man where we

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:56.240
<v Speaker 1>all had the same father, because in reality, I should

0:38:56.280 --> 0:38:58.520
<v Speaker 1>sit back and wish that that was my father, because

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 1>he just carried himself in his way, like he always

0:39:01.200 --> 0:39:04.600
<v Speaker 1>had a bankroll. He was always sharp, but he always

0:39:04.600 --> 0:39:07.400
<v Speaker 1>went to work. He didn't do no illegal he wasn't

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:10.520
<v Speaker 1>with no illegal activity. He said, if you want something,

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>you get up and work for us. So that was

0:39:11.960 --> 0:39:14.719
<v Speaker 1>my role model. So when I had my kids and

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>when I met my woman as my wife, now I

0:39:18.560 --> 0:39:21.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of said, man against all, I'm gonna make my

0:39:21.600 --> 0:39:24.640
<v Speaker 1>family work. I'm gonna be with just one woman my

0:39:24.719 --> 0:39:27.879
<v Speaker 1>whole life, and that's my son. If we have more kids,

0:39:27.960 --> 0:39:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't care. She can't stand me. We used to

0:39:30.000 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>be having kids together. You feel what I'm saying. We

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:36.239
<v Speaker 1>were just gonna keep this family together because I never

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.680
<v Speaker 1>wanted my family and I never wanted my kids to

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:40.719
<v Speaker 1>feel like, you know, if she got with somebody else

0:39:40.800 --> 0:39:43.799
<v Speaker 1>later on, that they was the one outside looking in

0:39:43.920 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of you feel me. So I've always made sure

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>to overly be there for my kids and be because

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:52.720
<v Speaker 1>he one thing that my pops wasn't my step pops.

0:39:53.360 --> 0:39:55.560
<v Speaker 1>He didn't believe, and no kind of emotion like he

0:39:55.719 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a type those gonna give you no hug. His

0:39:57.640 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 1>way is showing you he loved he was by paying

0:39:59.480 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 1>them build and making sure you had food to tell

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:03.839
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't gonna do all that stuff, but he did.

0:40:04.000 --> 0:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Let you know. I knew later on because when he died,

0:40:07.160 --> 0:40:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't talked to him and about probably like eight years.

0:40:10.719 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I have my own issues because he needs to with

0:40:12.719 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 1>my ass. But me looking back at it, it wasn't

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>just me, because he woke my brother's ass too. That

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:20.080
<v Speaker 1>was just his get down right. So I was kind

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:23.359
<v Speaker 1>of mad about some things, um, and he was on

0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.600
<v Speaker 1>his deathbed and he was telling me he couldn't talk,

0:40:25.760 --> 0:40:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and it took me a lot to call him. But

0:40:27.520 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 1>when I called him, his wife had said, this is

0:40:30.200 --> 0:40:32.799
<v Speaker 1>amazing because this is the first time he's actually been

0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>able to talk to you. You know that man died

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>three hours after he talked to me, so he was

0:40:39.920 --> 0:40:41.920
<v Speaker 1>waiting to talk to me. It was like because he

0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:44.520
<v Speaker 1>kept saying, because he the only want to call me, Norman,

0:40:44.560 --> 0:40:46.400
<v Speaker 1>Tell Norman to call me. I don't know what I

0:40:46.440 --> 0:40:47.840
<v Speaker 1>did to him for him not to call me. And

0:40:47.880 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>I would always have attentions, but you always got excuses

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:53.239
<v Speaker 1>like I'm too busy and the way I was still

0:40:53.320 --> 0:40:55.080
<v Speaker 1>less scared. Look, kids, I used to be scared of

0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Pops man. Pops didn't play no games. And it wasn't know,

0:40:58.920 --> 0:41:01.280
<v Speaker 1>negotiating your way out of nothing, because he would whoop

0:41:01.320 --> 0:41:03.200
<v Speaker 1>your ass or whatever it was around. If a lamp,

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 1>if an extinction cord to a lamp post around, I

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.160
<v Speaker 1>don't see them. Next cords off a lamp from the

0:41:08.200 --> 0:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>back of TVs and everything else up like them where

0:41:11.239 --> 0:41:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he could then he could take his built off and

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.799
<v Speaker 1>one swoop bab he would just reach down and just

0:41:15.239 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 1>one swoop this built coming off, and I would just

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>be like, damn, this dude didn't have no mercy. But

0:41:21.440 --> 0:41:24.239
<v Speaker 1>I looked, I looked back at it. That's why a

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.400
<v Speaker 1>lot of my friends that didn't have that discipline it

0:41:26.480 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>was running around on the East Side, they did, they

0:41:29.800 --> 0:41:32.319
<v Speaker 1>wound up dead. I saw friends getting hold off the

0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:35.279
<v Speaker 1>prison at sixteen. At fifteen eight, you don't see that

0:41:35.360 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>same stuff. Eight. Yeah, it's And I'm said, um, you

0:41:41.640 --> 0:41:44.400
<v Speaker 1>have something like some situations to where you just didn't

0:41:44.400 --> 0:41:46.719
<v Speaker 1>have mymas who didn't give a damn if you had

0:41:46.719 --> 0:41:50.200
<v Speaker 1>them single families, and you knew the knuckle head niggers

0:41:50.200 --> 0:41:54.000
<v Speaker 1>in the neighborhood, and and and and the females who

0:41:54.080 --> 0:41:57.279
<v Speaker 1>was on the wrong path. I'm just thankful that I

0:41:57.360 --> 0:42:03.080
<v Speaker 1>had a strong I had a strong who would not

0:42:03.360 --> 0:42:07.319
<v Speaker 1>let us, you know, go down that wrong pattern. I

0:42:07.360 --> 0:42:10.560
<v Speaker 1>can't say I was the straightest kid you get me.

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:16.360
<v Speaker 1>I got into some trouble and I don't and I

0:42:16.400 --> 0:42:21.560
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily think that's because my father wasn't around. I

0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:26.680
<v Speaker 1>was just I was just a kid who I was smart,

0:42:26.880 --> 0:42:31.320
<v Speaker 1>but then I played dumb. You get me. I was smart,

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:35.319
<v Speaker 1>but then I played dumb because I knew damn well

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:37.520
<v Speaker 1>some of the ship I did was gonna get me

0:42:37.600 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>in trouble. But that wasn't because I didn't have the

0:42:42.080 --> 0:42:44.840
<v Speaker 1>right upbringing ship. I was just because I wanted to

0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:51.760
<v Speaker 1>be a motherfucking curious, dumb kid. You know, go ahead,

0:42:51.800 --> 0:42:53.640
<v Speaker 1>you so sorry to cut you off, but let me

0:42:53.680 --> 0:42:57.040
<v Speaker 1>ask this because I just thought about this, right. You know,

0:42:57.200 --> 0:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>you've got a lot of women that don't want to

0:42:59.560 --> 0:43:01.640
<v Speaker 1>baby that you're wrong at all, and they take the

0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:04.080
<v Speaker 1>kids from the you know, they take the kid and

0:43:04.080 --> 0:43:09.160
<v Speaker 1>pretty much going to hide into whatever. Now sometimes I'm

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>against that, don't get me wrong. But sometimes if that

0:43:11.719 --> 0:43:14.640
<v Speaker 1>motherfucker is abusive and just don't mean no damn good,

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes and he was best that he's excommunicated

0:43:18.120 --> 0:43:22.120
<v Speaker 1>from the kid's life, because sometimes the type of niggas

0:43:22.120 --> 0:43:26.600
<v Speaker 1>can do more harm than good. Like you said, if

0:43:26.600 --> 0:43:29.560
<v Speaker 1>could either get it to where they're gonna mimic that

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>said later, or they made the opposite. Like my brother,

0:43:33.239 --> 0:43:35.640
<v Speaker 1>he valid he wasn't gonna be like my father. Like

0:43:35.719 --> 0:43:37.879
<v Speaker 1>my father was was a good dude. He just had

0:43:37.920 --> 0:43:40.040
<v Speaker 1>like demons. You know what I'm saying he's an alcoholic

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.279
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. And he wasn't always like that, but you know,

0:43:43.320 --> 0:43:44.880
<v Speaker 1>once he got our jail and stuff like that, he

0:43:45.000 --> 0:43:47.200
<v Speaker 1>just turned to liquor and stuff like that. So he

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:49.719
<v Speaker 1>really wasn't able to really be there for us like

0:43:49.960 --> 0:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you know he should have, you know, so my brother,

0:43:52.640 --> 0:43:54.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, he did have a lot of resentment for that.

0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:56.640
<v Speaker 1>And when you were younger and Ship like, you were

0:43:56.680 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 1>like I'm running away and stuff like that, and I'll

0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:00.560
<v Speaker 1>have to go chase him, like you ain't gonna know

0:44:00.560 --> 0:44:03.879
<v Speaker 1>what you told about your stuff like that. But now

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:06.000
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. He's a father, he's married,

0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 1>he's America twenty years, he got um, he got to

0:44:09.840 --> 0:44:15.640
<v Speaker 1>two kids, and he's at every basketball game whatever, like football,

0:44:15.760 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>whatever some want to do like he did, total opposite.

0:44:18.680 --> 0:44:22.120
<v Speaker 1>So you can have those things where sometimes maybe a

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.239
<v Speaker 1>bad influence and you may be like, oh him, I'm

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:26.160
<v Speaker 1>never gonna be like I'm never gonna make my child

0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.640
<v Speaker 1>feel that way or never be that way. Or then

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:30.279
<v Speaker 1>you may be like, oh, Ship, this is how it

0:44:30.360 --> 0:44:33.880
<v Speaker 1>was supposed to be. So I'm be hall. You know,

0:44:33.920 --> 0:44:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I was taught so it can be. I mean, I've

0:44:36.680 --> 0:44:40.200
<v Speaker 1>never um like I said, yeah, you can. You can.

0:44:40.440 --> 0:44:42.560
<v Speaker 1>You can flip that ship. You can take a bad

0:44:42.640 --> 0:44:46.360
<v Speaker 1>situation and if you have the right attitude in the

0:44:46.480 --> 0:44:49.759
<v Speaker 1>common sense to I ain't gonna be like that. I'm

0:44:49.800 --> 0:44:55.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be different. You know. I never, um, I probably

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.960
<v Speaker 1>can't even never recall the time where my pops told

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:04.960
<v Speaker 1>me he loved me. Never. But I make sure every

0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.359
<v Speaker 1>day when my son go to school to tell him

0:45:07.360 --> 0:45:11.040
<v Speaker 1>I love him and that ship is crazy, because I

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:15.760
<v Speaker 1>don't want him growing up to feel like my Posts

0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:19.520
<v Speaker 1>was just hard as motherfucker. You know, my Post used

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the gang Bang and he's known for making them records

0:45:22.760 --> 0:45:26.240
<v Speaker 1>and being in the movies, and he was just hard.

0:45:26.960 --> 0:45:31.280
<v Speaker 1>And started realizing like, man, you gotta change the narrative.

0:45:31.320 --> 0:45:34.399
<v Speaker 1>Because I was sitting down talking to somebody one day

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:37.640
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, oh, no, we didn't do that ship.

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:41.800
<v Speaker 1>You know, we well, nobody's sitting around the house talking

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.000
<v Speaker 1>about you know, we're getting ready to leave and go

0:45:44.080 --> 0:45:46.640
<v Speaker 1>out to the hood or something. And the motherfucker be like,

0:45:46.680 --> 0:45:49.200
<v Speaker 1>all right, be careful, I love you. We didn't do

0:45:49.280 --> 0:45:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that ship in my household. It was ship. I mean,

0:45:54.120 --> 0:45:56.800
<v Speaker 1>we we just didn't do it, you get me. Uh,

0:45:57.080 --> 0:45:59.680
<v Speaker 1>not that it was in love because I talked to

0:45:59.760 --> 0:46:02.000
<v Speaker 1>my m every day and every time we get off

0:46:02.000 --> 0:46:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the phone, it's like, Okay, I love you, Okay, I

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:09.040
<v Speaker 1>love you too. But me growing up in Compton and

0:46:09.320 --> 0:46:14.480
<v Speaker 1>gang infested in moms, you know, going through the divorce

0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.239
<v Speaker 1>and all that other ship and we're living in the

0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:21.080
<v Speaker 1>hood and all, but nobody talking about I love you

0:46:21.160 --> 0:46:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and my moa fucking household. It was just like, uh,

0:46:26.040 --> 0:46:31.759
<v Speaker 1>be careful, watch out and knowing the situation. So from

0:46:31.800 --> 0:46:34.000
<v Speaker 1>what I've seen growing up, as I said, I had

0:46:34.080 --> 0:46:38.200
<v Speaker 1>to change that narrative. So you know, any time my

0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:40.719
<v Speaker 1>son we get ready to go play his football game

0:46:40.800 --> 0:46:43.440
<v Speaker 1>on Friday nights, I make sure I send him a

0:46:43.480 --> 0:46:45.960
<v Speaker 1>long text message and at the end tell him I

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>love them no matter what happens, you know tonight. And

0:46:51.800 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>I never told my pops, hey, I love you too,

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.359
<v Speaker 1>but he with no problem, Hey I love you too,

0:46:56.520 --> 0:46:59.640
<v Speaker 1>Pops and whatever whatever. So it's starting to change the

0:46:59.760 --> 0:47:02.960
<v Speaker 1>narrow ative of of what I saw and what I

0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:06.200
<v Speaker 1>grew up as and saw in my household that I

0:47:06.239 --> 0:47:08.960
<v Speaker 1>want him to take that to me differently because you

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:11.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't change that. I didn't have to grow up and

0:47:11.520 --> 0:47:15.440
<v Speaker 1>be the alcoholic, let me let me, you know, abuse

0:47:15.600 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 1>my woman and then have my kids scared of me

0:47:18.640 --> 0:47:23.120
<v Speaker 1>and crazy and dominating the household. I I didn't want that.

0:47:23.320 --> 0:47:27.120
<v Speaker 1>I wanted my kids to feel comfortable and loved and

0:47:27.640 --> 0:47:31.359
<v Speaker 1>the ship that people see on TV, like, you know,

0:47:32.080 --> 0:47:34.160
<v Speaker 1>we do that ship to here. Oh yeah, I tell

0:47:34.239 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 1>my kids we love them and yeah we got Christmas

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:39.759
<v Speaker 1>lights on the house and Santa Claus floats in the

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.520
<v Speaker 1>front yard and all that ship. You know. I want

0:47:42.560 --> 0:47:45.440
<v Speaker 1>to give them a sense of being normal too, and

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 1>not being that different narrative of of of the black household.

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 1>You get me the father who left or don't never

0:47:54.480 --> 0:47:56.880
<v Speaker 1>tell the kids he loved them. And it's just hard

0:47:57.040 --> 0:47:59.760
<v Speaker 1>and well, I grew up from Compton and we gained

0:48:00.400 --> 0:48:03.040
<v Speaker 1>and you ain't supposed to tell the motherfucker you love

0:48:03.120 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 1>them and that type of ship. So you know, you

0:48:06.239 --> 0:48:08.719
<v Speaker 1>just have to be different, man. I think you know,

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.840
<v Speaker 1>you gotta take from what you've seen or what you

0:48:11.920 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>saw growing up in in your household and what your

0:48:15.120 --> 0:48:18.400
<v Speaker 1>father might have done or mother might have done, and

0:48:18.440 --> 0:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>you just have to change that for the better. I mean,

0:48:20.760 --> 0:48:25.160
<v Speaker 1>because we got so much resources and and ship that

0:48:25.200 --> 0:48:27.800
<v Speaker 1>we can that we don't have to live the way

0:48:27.840 --> 0:48:30.759
<v Speaker 1>that they did or what we saw. So that's why

0:48:30.760 --> 0:48:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I say, you can never put anybody in the position

0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of saying being a single mother, father or whatever. Man,

0:48:37.600 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 1>you just have to be able to raise the kids

0:48:39.680 --> 0:48:42.640
<v Speaker 1>right and put them on the path of being better

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>than the situation of what you came with, because you know,

0:48:45.920 --> 0:48:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I feel I came up pretty hard, so I didn't

0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:52.239
<v Speaker 1>want my kids to have to come up like that. Yeah,

0:48:52.280 --> 0:48:55.319
<v Speaker 1>for real, for real, how is your relationship with your

0:48:55.440 --> 0:48:57.879
<v Speaker 1>pops coming up? Because we always talk about the you know,

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 1>man's relationship with the mom. I know, daughters and their

0:49:03.719 --> 0:49:09.120
<v Speaker 1>fathers are typically pretty close, right. Yeah. I had a

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>relationship with with my dad. He was him, my mom

0:49:14.840 --> 0:49:19.319
<v Speaker 1>was married, they divorced. When I was like to my dad, um,

0:49:20.719 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was an alcoholic, he was out like, um,

0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:29.080
<v Speaker 1>he's out there. My mom would actually like drop me

0:49:29.120 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>off over to his sister's house because she knew he

0:49:31.800 --> 0:49:35.960
<v Speaker 1>would kind of be around, you know, and she still

0:49:36.000 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 1>wanted me to be able to like see him. So

0:49:38.239 --> 0:49:41.279
<v Speaker 1>my dad he was a bummer at one point where

0:49:41.280 --> 0:49:45.000
<v Speaker 1>I would play checkers with him or just like, you know,

0:49:45.120 --> 0:49:47.680
<v Speaker 1>he'll be around in the neighborhood and kids and be like,

0:49:47.719 --> 0:49:52.400
<v Speaker 1>oh that you know that's your dad or whatever. But um,

0:49:52.480 --> 0:49:55.480
<v Speaker 1>he got itself together and he stepped up. I had

0:49:55.520 --> 0:49:59.279
<v Speaker 1>to go live with him at one point. Um he

0:49:59.400 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 1>had he laughed, and when he came back, my mom

0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:04.520
<v Speaker 1>was in a situation where I needed to go live

0:50:04.560 --> 0:50:07.719
<v Speaker 1>with him, and we had a good relationship. My dad, though,

0:50:07.920 --> 0:50:12.000
<v Speaker 1>was very like I think only got one I don't

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.040
<v Speaker 1>even think I got a whip in Like he hit

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:17.560
<v Speaker 1>me like once and he cried about it. Like my

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:22.760
<v Speaker 1>dad was very like I pretty much got to do

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:26.880
<v Speaker 1>what I wanted. I live with my mom, my stepdad,

0:50:27.000 --> 0:50:32.319
<v Speaker 1>my stepdad, my stepdad. He was we we got into

0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:34.920
<v Speaker 1>it many of times. We bumped heads many of times.

0:50:35.000 --> 0:50:36.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, he was one of those streets dudes. It

0:50:37.040 --> 0:50:39.800
<v Speaker 1>was like in the streets or whatever. You know. Always

0:50:40.560 --> 0:50:44.640
<v Speaker 1>um treated me as his daughter and I have a

0:50:44.680 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>sister by him. But it was too different. Like he

0:50:48.440 --> 0:50:51.520
<v Speaker 1>was tough, not like tough tough, but he was tough.

0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Whereas my dad like it was like he ain't nothing,

0:50:57.040 --> 0:50:59.839
<v Speaker 1>but he was in my life. You know, they're both

0:50:59.840 --> 0:51:04.080
<v Speaker 1>in my life. So my kids they have like I

0:51:04.080 --> 0:51:07.800
<v Speaker 1>have two moms, stepmom my mom. You know my two dads.

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I just didn't have a grandfather. That's how he was

0:51:11.360 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 1>in my house too. I think that's just a black

0:51:13.120 --> 0:51:16.759
<v Speaker 1>household things my kids got. The the friends asked like, yeah,

0:51:16.760 --> 0:51:20.160
<v Speaker 1>I got two grand posts, I've got three. Yeah, Like

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:23.759
<v Speaker 1>that's just how it is, you know, And I know

0:51:23.840 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 1>it's you over there trying to hire what's going on

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.120
<v Speaker 1>with you in your pop's relationship? WHI She was like

0:51:28.120 --> 0:51:31.360
<v Speaker 1>you going. I know me and Moops was cool. We

0:51:31.400 --> 0:51:36.240
<v Speaker 1>had a cool My pops was just really like was craziest,

0:51:36.239 --> 0:51:38.439
<v Speaker 1>but like he was that person to be like high Scoore.

0:51:38.440 --> 0:51:41.200
<v Speaker 1>I getting mad at like he was just crazy, but

0:51:41.280 --> 0:51:43.160
<v Speaker 1>he was. I was the only girl like he had

0:51:43.280 --> 0:51:46.759
<v Speaker 1>you know boys like all boys. I'm the only girl.

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 1>I'm the oldest, but I'm the only girl. So I'm

0:51:49.280 --> 0:51:51.640
<v Speaker 1>always was always a baby girl. Like I didn't get

0:51:51.680 --> 0:51:54.960
<v Speaker 1>punishing and whippings and stuff like the boys did. It

0:51:55.040 --> 0:51:57.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't happening now you just go upstairs, like you know,

0:51:58.040 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I was the princess. You know, So we didn't have

0:52:01.440 --> 0:52:04.440
<v Speaker 1>a cool relationship, like did I I wish that he was,

0:52:05.160 --> 0:52:08.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, him and my my mom. It's crazy, my mom,

0:52:08.520 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 1>my dad got They met when they were like eleven

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.520
<v Speaker 1>and twelve. They had me at sixteen. Two weeks later,

0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:18.280
<v Speaker 1>my mom turned seventeen, my dad turned eighteen. I literally

0:52:18.440 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>like it was crazy. So he really didn't know, like

0:52:24.920 --> 0:52:27.239
<v Speaker 1>like he was saying, like he really didn't know, like

0:52:27.320 --> 0:52:30.239
<v Speaker 1>you know, how to be a father, like he was

0:52:30.320 --> 0:52:32.200
<v Speaker 1>ship ship. Now you're trying to take care of family.

0:52:32.239 --> 0:52:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Then four years later then my brother comes, you know

0:52:34.320 --> 0:52:36.520
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, that he gets married to my mom.

0:52:36.560 --> 0:52:39.040
<v Speaker 1>They're like hell a young trying to hold it down

0:52:39.160 --> 0:52:42.000
<v Speaker 1>or whatever like that, and they just didn't they they

0:52:42.239 --> 0:52:43.960
<v Speaker 1>lost their way for a second, know what I'm saying,

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:47.480
<v Speaker 1>And then they both came back full circle bed Unfortunately,

0:52:47.520 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 1>like you know, he he passed away. But um when

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:56.600
<v Speaker 1>he always would say like you know you baby girl,

0:52:56.719 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>like you know what I'm saying, you know you you

0:52:59.160 --> 0:53:02.320
<v Speaker 1>treated such whatever, so like we have a bad relationship.

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.839
<v Speaker 1>That's dude, you know. And I think the father is

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:11.600
<v Speaker 1>very underrated because like you said, I think you turned

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:14.239
<v Speaker 1>out to be the person you are. I think your

0:53:14.280 --> 0:53:16.319
<v Speaker 1>mom got a real big influence on you. But the

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.880
<v Speaker 1>older I get I think is how your relationship was

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:24.240
<v Speaker 1>with your father. I know, for us as men anyway. Um,

0:53:24.280 --> 0:53:26.439
<v Speaker 1>for you guys, it may be more of how your

0:53:26.480 --> 0:53:28.759
<v Speaker 1>relationship is with your mama, you know. But I think

0:53:28.800 --> 0:53:33.120
<v Speaker 1>for men especially, we um based our lives, and we

0:53:33.239 --> 0:53:35.919
<v Speaker 1>become who we are based on our relationship with our dad.

0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of things, I just knew I didn't

0:53:38.080 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 1>want to be sorry. I didn't want to make no

0:53:39.560 --> 0:53:42.879
<v Speaker 1>fake ass promises to my kid because I remember being

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a little kid, we stayed like in the basement apartment.

0:53:45.920 --> 0:53:47.880
<v Speaker 1>In the basement apartment, you know, you got the windows

0:53:47.960 --> 0:53:50.439
<v Speaker 1>up here, you know, you see the ground and the thing,

0:53:50.800 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 1>and it would be a Friday, and you know, I'll

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>be waiting for my dad to come. I remember I

0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:56.879
<v Speaker 1>would go get my bags. I would get them brown

0:53:56.960 --> 0:53:59.160
<v Speaker 1>grocery bags and put my clothes and stuff in it.

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:01.040
<v Speaker 1>And I would have me a little book in there,

0:54:01.160 --> 0:54:03.239
<v Speaker 1>my comic books. So I'm okay for the ride this

0:54:03.280 --> 0:54:06.600
<v Speaker 1>house as far so I'll be prepared, right. And man,

0:54:06.680 --> 0:54:08.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember I was sitting the couch. He's supposed to

0:54:08.640 --> 0:54:13.040
<v Speaker 1>be there five o'clock, five thirty hids six o'clock here,

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:15.520
<v Speaker 1>and my mama just there looking at him. She's like, baby,

0:54:15.560 --> 0:54:17.960
<v Speaker 1>let me go put your clothes and think, no, my daddy,

0:54:17.960 --> 0:54:19.839
<v Speaker 1>go come. I got my coat on and my little

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 1>boots on and stuff. No, I don't want to go

0:54:21.600 --> 0:54:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to sleep. And I remember I would go to sleep

0:54:23.680 --> 0:54:26.440
<v Speaker 1>on that couch buddy for that nagame and then he

0:54:26.480 --> 0:54:28.920
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't come. I would be so sad, and then it

0:54:28.960 --> 0:54:32.120
<v Speaker 1>would be like during the time I would sleep, he

0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.520
<v Speaker 1>don't came and gave my mom five or ten dollars

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.400
<v Speaker 1>for me, and think that that's you know, like, and

0:54:37.440 --> 0:54:39.440
<v Speaker 1>so I see him a month later, Oh, did you

0:54:39.520 --> 0:54:41.239
<v Speaker 1>get the money I gave you? Just like, man, I

0:54:41.280 --> 0:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>didn't think about that money. I don't want to come

0:54:42.880 --> 0:54:44.040
<v Speaker 1>and kick it with you. I just want to be

0:54:44.080 --> 0:54:47.279
<v Speaker 1>with my dad. And he did that to me so

0:54:47.400 --> 0:54:49.239
<v Speaker 1>much to where it got to the point to where

0:54:49.239 --> 0:54:51.879
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't stay in that dude, like I really didn't

0:54:51.920 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 1>like him, and he would come and try to give me.

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:55.920
<v Speaker 1>When I got like thirteen and fortune, I was like,

0:54:55.960 --> 0:54:58.120
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to go. I don't want to go.

0:54:58.239 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>And then during that period I remember room, it was

0:55:01.120 --> 0:55:02.880
<v Speaker 1>a period to where he called the house and I

0:55:02.960 --> 0:55:05.600
<v Speaker 1>picked up the phone upstairs and he was cussing my

0:55:05.640 --> 0:55:07.759
<v Speaker 1>mom out, like calling all out of names. You gotta

0:55:07.760 --> 0:55:10.319
<v Speaker 1>think my mom got us, man, and so he getting on,

0:55:10.400 --> 0:55:12.880
<v Speaker 1>he getting mad. You know, people get to grabbing pistols

0:55:12.880 --> 0:55:15.319
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, and I go do this and that, you know.

0:55:15.480 --> 0:55:18.000
<v Speaker 1>So I was mad at him about that because he

0:55:18.120 --> 0:55:20.839
<v Speaker 1>let me see that over ignorant outside of him. You sure,

0:55:20.840 --> 0:55:22.799
<v Speaker 1>what I'm saying, just something you should never do in

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:24.759
<v Speaker 1>front of your kids, you know what I mean? He

0:55:24.920 --> 0:55:27.520
<v Speaker 1>called my mom out out of her name, and I'm

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>cussing him out, and it's just got real crazy. And

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.000
<v Speaker 1>even still to this day, I had to work with

0:55:33.040 --> 0:55:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that forgiving him because sometimes we need be around and

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.319
<v Speaker 1>be saying stuff like I try to call the shot

0:55:37.600 --> 0:55:39.279
<v Speaker 1>out of a mom, like, man, you ain't got the

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:41.120
<v Speaker 1>right to be doing all that home. You're cool that

0:55:41.200 --> 0:55:45.520
<v Speaker 1>you're here, but you're gonna calm down, you know what

0:55:45.520 --> 0:55:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. Like you remember, And I told him like

0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the last time we got together, and I don't like

0:55:49.840 --> 0:55:51.520
<v Speaker 1>to live in the past. I just don't think it's

0:55:51.520 --> 0:55:53.920
<v Speaker 1>healthy to live in the past. I think it's you

0:55:54.000 --> 0:55:56.879
<v Speaker 1>need to forgive people for you because when you are

0:55:56.960 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 1>broad bottle up all that energy, it's just bad for

0:55:59.560 --> 0:56:02.640
<v Speaker 1>you and you wind up becoming the person you don't

0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:04.440
<v Speaker 1>want to be so I've forgiven them for a lot

0:56:04.520 --> 0:56:07.120
<v Speaker 1>of things, but I don't forget because I think it's

0:56:07.120 --> 0:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>some stuff that you should have to be punished for

0:56:09.080 --> 0:56:11.640
<v Speaker 1>them and remember in your mind that you suck up.

0:56:12.360 --> 0:56:14.600
<v Speaker 1>I think we just I think people need to be

0:56:14.640 --> 0:56:17.279
<v Speaker 1>careful about who they go lay up and have kids with,

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. I think that's a very

0:56:19.320 --> 0:56:21.480
<v Speaker 1>important thing. Even if you don't wind up with a person,

0:56:21.920 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 1>I just think you impact us to somebody else's life,

0:56:24.320 --> 0:56:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So I appreciate you all

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:30.360
<v Speaker 1>coming home and having this deep discussion with us tonight.

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:35.719
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for having Yeah, y'all probably thought. Y'all probably thought

0:56:35.719 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 1>we was gonna be on here trying to go back

0:56:37.239 --> 0:56:40.680
<v Speaker 1>and forth. We because those women that don't let men

0:56:40.800 --> 0:56:43.120
<v Speaker 1>see their kids that I think they gonna deal with

0:56:43.160 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 1>something later on in life and their own is eventually

0:56:45.040 --> 0:56:46.600
<v Speaker 1>that kids will get older. I want to see us

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 1>that anyway. Oh yeah, I think it's important for you

0:56:49.800 --> 0:56:53.480
<v Speaker 1>know that relationship to so gloomy life. There's no reason

0:56:53.520 --> 0:56:56.839
<v Speaker 1>to like keep in domestic violence situations where they're hurting

0:56:56.880 --> 0:56:59.160
<v Speaker 1>the kids. Yeah, but no, why why are you keeping

0:56:59.400 --> 0:57:03.319
<v Speaker 1>this kid away? From their father. I think it's hurting them,

0:57:03.360 --> 0:57:06.719
<v Speaker 1>but it's not. It's hurting the kids. It's hurting the

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 1>kid for real, for real. So y'all back to doing

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.480
<v Speaker 1>your podcast again full time. I know y'all be on

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:17.000
<v Speaker 1>there on no ceilings with glasses every week. Y'all back

0:57:17.040 --> 0:57:20.959
<v Speaker 1>up running yet we um know, we haven't. We haven't

0:57:20.960 --> 0:57:24.800
<v Speaker 1>started recording our show yet. So we like, we've been

0:57:24.840 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 1>talking about it. We got like, you know, yeah, so

0:57:30.520 --> 0:57:32.760
<v Speaker 1>you don't need to do something. He don't nobody to

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:34.959
<v Speaker 1>talk ship like these girls. They talk a gag and ship.

0:57:35.000 --> 0:57:38.680
<v Speaker 1>They're being nice. It'd be a nice night, but they

0:57:38.720 --> 0:57:42.480
<v Speaker 1>has to be talking again and ship on the night.

0:57:42.560 --> 0:57:47.240
<v Speaker 1>When there's some ship some ship talking, they go about, Yeah, well,

0:57:48.240 --> 0:57:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I know it's late. I'm gonna let y'all go. I

0:57:50.000 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>appreciate that. What can people find, y'all that you can

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