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Speaker 1: Michael darry Show is on the air.

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Speaker 2: Good morning, Captain, Good morning, kaptain, good morning, Captain, Good morning, Captain, good.

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Speaker 3: Morning, good morning, the captains, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Out and wake up.

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Speaker 4: Some shot share this ring.

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Speaker 2: An intern signing some we see osby Henry see you

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Speaker 2: and you're going down to ring everybody see good morning,

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Speaker 2: good morning, good morning.

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Speaker 1: Billy Wagner has made the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: We will talk to his fellow astro Lance Berkman in

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Speaker 3: just a few moments and get Big Puma's reaction to

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Speaker 3: this momentous news. They overlapped I think four seasons. I

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Speaker 3: looked it up earlier. I wasn't sure exactly how long. Yesterday,

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Speaker 3: in the evening, there was what was purported to be

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Speaker 3: a national prayer service, and Bishop Marianne Edgar Boody, the

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Speaker 3: Bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Washington, the first woman

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Speaker 3: to hold that position, spoke And it was no sermon,

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Speaker 3: it was no prayer. It was a lecture, the kind

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Speaker 3: of thing you would hear some screeching woman delivering as

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Speaker 3: a panelist on CNN or MSNBC. It's a disgrace to

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Speaker 3: the Episcopalian denomination.

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Speaker 1: It's a disgrace to the event.

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Speaker 3: President Trump last night took the Truth Social at twelve

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Speaker 3: thirty nine am his time Eastern and said, quote, the

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Speaker 3: so called bishop who spoke at the National Prayer Service

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Speaker 3: on Tuesday morning was a radical left, hardline Trump hater.

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Speaker 3: She brought her church into the world of politics in

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Speaker 3: a very ungracious way. She was nasty in tone and

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Speaker 3: not compelling or smart. She failed to mention the large

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Speaker 3: number of illegal migrants that came into our country and

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Speaker 3: killed people. Many were deposited from jails and mental institutions.

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Speaker 3: It is a giant crime wave that is taking place

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Speaker 3: in the USA. Apart from her inappropriate statements, the service

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Speaker 1: She is not very good at her job. She and

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Speaker 1: her church owe the public an apology.

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Speaker 3: The President was asked as he left that event what

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Speaker 3: he thought about her remarks, and he said, not too exciting,

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Speaker 3: was it. It's a great deal of restraint for the president,

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Speaker 3: and I don't think anybody is thinking, well, I wish

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Speaker 3: he'd been less restrained. I wish he'd cussed at her,

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Speaker 3: you know, kind of come at it with a Mexican

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Speaker 3: word of the day is bishop, and someone please shut

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Speaker 3: this bishop. I mean, he could have taken that approach.

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Speaker 3: He could have insulted her, demeans, humiliated, been angry, but

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Speaker 3: he took what is for President Trump, who if he's punched,

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Speaker 3: is always gonna punch back.

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Speaker 1: Kind of the high road. It's an interesting approach. It's

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Speaker 1: an interesting approach how this whole thing will play out.

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Speaker 1: I have to think.

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Speaker 3: I'm certain that there were plenty of episcopalians, even in

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Speaker 3: that Diocese of Washington, DC, who made calls.

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Speaker 1: And said things like, I'm not.

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Speaker 3: Very I mean, I don't want to complain or anything,

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Speaker 3: but I mean I certainly don't want to be a complainer,

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Speaker 3: but you know, I mean, I just wish I mean

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Speaker 3: I don't want to complain, but I wonder if maybe

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Speaker 3: you know, I just I mean, you know, whatever, she

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Speaker 3: doesn't end up in that position without a lot of

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Speaker 5: Know better.

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Speaker 3: Tolerating that nonsense. Oh, they're out there. They're out there

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Speaker 3: for sure, and they'll tell you they're scared, but they're

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Speaker 3: they're what are known as craybullies. They're not scared at all.

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Speaker 3: it's going to be an interesting time, friends, It's going

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Speaker 3: to be a very very interesting time. Lance Perkman will

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Speaker 3: be our guest in about five minutes. Snowfall totals yesterday,

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Speaker 3: We still got snow all around our offices, our studio,

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Speaker 1: He peeded it?

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, did he pull his pants down to

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Speaker 3: yellow snow. Baytown got the most in the area at

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Speaker 3: I'm wrong three inches. Your wife got about six inch.

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Speaker 3: What has gotten into you today? My goodness? You you

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Speaker 3: A Golden Triangle saw its first ever blizzard warning yesterday.

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Speaker 1: I am delighted to report my father is doing well.

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Speaker 3: We had the generator gassed up, checked in on him

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Speaker 1: You come up eighty years ago.

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Speaker 2: I'm just in here listening my very.

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Speaker 5: There's never been like.

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Speaker 6: Had you met Boomer power, would you?

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Speaker 4: I was seemed like gas could you make your reposition?

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Speaker 2: Color?

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Speaker 7: Were the single days when you're getting the presidence of

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Speaker 3: With the announcement that Billy Wagons is only the ninth

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Speaker 3: player to ever wear an Astros jersey at some time

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Speaker 3: in his career to enter Major League Baseball Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Our guest is his teammate Lance Berkman. Always a pleasure

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Speaker 3: to talk to Big Puma. Welcome to the program sir.

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Speaker 6: Well, I sure appreciate it. And that's quite an intro.

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Speaker 6: But you've subjected your listeners now to some bad music, so.

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Speaker 5: We've got to make up.

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Speaker 1: We're studying the Barlow for you.

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Speaker 5: That's perfect.

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Speaker 3: It was the tenth year that Billy Wagner was eligible,

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Speaker 3: and he goes in in his tenth year. What changed

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know that's interesting. You know, I think you

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Speaker 6: Where the further you get away from their career, the

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Speaker 6: and I really honestly don't know. I mean, I thought Billy,

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Speaker 5: And the fact that it took him ten years to

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Speaker 6: It's a little surprising, but I'm glad he's in. So

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Speaker 6: I guess at the end of the day, he's still

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Speaker 6: things come to those who wait.

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Speaker 1: What was he like as a teammate.

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Speaker 6: He was incredible, better person than a player. One of

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Speaker 5: You know, we had a lot of really you.

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Speaker 5: They just were doing their thing.

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Speaker 6: But Billy went out of his way to kind of

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Speaker 6: Eighth inning, I think there was two outs, bases loaded,

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Speaker 5: Hey, I like this guy, like the way he plays,

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Speaker 5: and he's one of us.

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Speaker 6: So just illustrates that Billy has always had care for

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Speaker 5: And and uh, you know, the great the best teammates

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Speaker 6: More about others than they did their own personal statistics

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Speaker 5: Just a great guy.

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Speaker 3: Isn't it interesting how much things like that matter so

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Speaker 5: Ambidextrius clearly. Yeah. So, I mean, you know he's.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, Thanks Michael.

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Speaker 1: How much we love that guy, Like Chris Farley, Paul

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Speaker 3: It's kind of squat, like he'd kind of been pressed

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Speaker 5: Billy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good story from Lance Berkman, though very

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Speaker 1: Here he was on MLB Network talking about making it.

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Speaker 9: Billy Wagner, how emotional was that phone call for you

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Speaker 4: Well, if I.

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Speaker 9: Get through this interview without crying, it'll be amazing. But

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, uh, I don't even know how

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Speaker 9: you know, I mean so much it goes. It's involved

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Speaker 4: Uh, you know, there's just so much that I'm grateful for.

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Speaker 10: Hey, Billy, it is Harold here. Talk about minor leagues.

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Speaker 10: I remember you playing on a team my brother Donald

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Speaker 8: On and you were a starter.

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Speaker 10: He kept telling me about this kid, Billy Wagner, and

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Speaker 1: That make two Hall of fak you did.

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Speaker 10: So tell me who made the decision to put you

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Speaker 1: There's got to be a story there, right, Well there is.

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Speaker 9: I mean, you know, sometimes it's just the luck of

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Speaker 4: Well he's four and zero. They'd released another great.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'd done it in college, so they put

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Speaker 4: Because if I was a starter, I had four days.

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Speaker 1: What a great moment.

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Speaker 3: As I said, only the ninth player to ever wear

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Speaker 3: He would go on to pitch through twenty ten. I

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Speaker 3: This was his tenth and final year on the ballot.

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Speaker 3: He came very close to not making it, and he

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Speaker 3: very much should be there, a seven time All Star.

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Speaker 3: I got an email from somebody I know who does

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Speaker 3: you what grinds my gears about the Circus Act, that is,

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame Voting Committee Number one, Billy Wagner,

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Speaker 3: What magical stat faery? What magical stat ferry sprinkled her dust?

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Speaker 3: If you couldn't see it, then maybe your stats as

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Speaker 3: a voter need reevaluating Number two, Itchiro. How was this

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Speaker 3: is reserved for literal gods zeus level gods. Newsflash, baseball

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Speaker 1: You go back and look at Eachiro's numbers. I mean

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Speaker 5: You can't.

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Speaker 3: You couldn't do what he's done in a backyard league,

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Speaker 3: not this time, ty Cob hard pass, Babe Ruth needs

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Speaker 1: What were they waiting for? The Hall of Fame voting

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Speaker 3: Say, yeah, this literal icon of the sport isn't quite

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Speaker 3: this morning from ramon rovers who never has strong opinions,

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Speaker 1: Bizarre of talk radio The Michael Barry Show.

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Speaker 7: Finishing his career with a sparkling two point three to

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Speaker 7: one ERA and four hundred and twenty two saves, the

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Speaker 7: eighth most all time. Today, Billy Wagner joins the Hall

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Speaker 7: of Fame family as one of the game's most dominating closers.

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Speaker 7: His fastball regularly topped one hundred miles an hour. He

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Speaker 7: the big leagues, and his one one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 7: six career strikeouts stood for years as the most by

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Speaker 7: a left handed reliever in Major League history. Among pitchers

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Speaker 7: with nine hundred and more innings, he has the highest

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Speaker 7: A seven time All Star who also reached the postseason

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Speaker 7: five to seven ERA and thirty nine saves with one

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Speaker 1: A fireballer from Appalachia.

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Speaker 7: He logged a career high forty four saves in two

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Speaker 7: to Cooperstown.

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Speaker 4: There were three other.

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Speaker 3: Players on the ballot who were not voted in to

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Speaker 3: I'm not, but I don't think of Brian McKinnon is

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Speaker 3: an All Star. I mean as a Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 3: And that's not trying to to me. The Hall is

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Speaker 3: a big, big, big deal and it has to be

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Speaker 3: rarefied air to get there. Carlos Bertron, who played at

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Speaker 3: the end of his career. They're trying to sully him

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Speaker 3: with you know what, but I think Beltron I like

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Speaker 3: to really emphasize the Beltron, don't you, mom.

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Speaker 5: You can hear it.

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Speaker 1: Beltron. He will go in and he should go in.

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Speaker 1: And the third player who wore.

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Speaker 3: The Astros uniform, unfortunately not enough years because he's primarily

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Speaker 3: a Yankee, but he's from Dear Park and he's beloved

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Speaker 3: in these parts is Andy Pettitt.

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Speaker 1: And I have to tell you.

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Speaker 3: When you look at the career of Andy Pettitt, and

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Speaker 3: if you want to get into values and behaviors and actions,

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Speaker 3: you look at the body of work inside baseball, and

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Speaker 3: after you know that whole story, Andy Pettitt should be

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Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: There is no doubt he should be in the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame.

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Speaker 3: Otherwise you make a mockery of honesty. It should be

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Speaker 3: in the Hall of Fame. And while I'm at it,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go ahead and say it. Roger Clemens should

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Speaker 3: be in the Hall of Fame. If the Hall of

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Speaker 3: Fame is going to have any meaning as representing the

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Speaker 3: greatest players to play the game, You've got to have

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Speaker 3: Pete Rose. You've got to have Roger Clemens. You've got

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Speaker 3: to have Barry Bonds.

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Speaker 4: You do.

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Speaker 1: You got to have Rafael Palmero.

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Speaker 3: This is ridiculous now, if you want to say, and

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Speaker 3: by the way, you got to have Martin McGuire and

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Speaker 3: Sammy Sosa as well.

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Speaker 1: If you want to.

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Speaker 3: Say, this is a place for people who we never

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Speaker 3: caught doing something that we decided at that moment was

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Speaker 3: not good, all right, because there are players in the

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Speaker 3: Hall over the years who did some very bad things,

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Speaker 3: very bad things. If the argument is, well, we don't

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Speaker 3: want the kids to think that this is an exalted

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Speaker 3: player because of this thing. If you want to put

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Speaker 3: an asterisk, if you want to put a line about that,

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Speaker 3: if you want to do whatever it is you need

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Speaker 3: to do, mister hygh and mighty fine. But you got

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Speaker 3: to have Roger Clemens in the Hall of Fame. There's

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Speaker 3: no doubt in my mind. You got to have Barry Punts,

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Speaker 3: you gotta have Pete Rose. My goodness, you look at

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Speaker 3: the body of work of Pete Rose and Roger Clemens.

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Speaker 3: It makes me genuinely angry when people try to minimize

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Speaker 3: the career of Roger Clemens. Genuinely angry considering what that

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Speaker 3: guy did, I mean, what a competitor. It made me

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Speaker 3: happen here, Billy Wagner mentioned Grece Wendell, Sharpstown High School kid.

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Speaker 3: I hadn't thought about Grace Wendell speaking of Longhorns. I

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Speaker 3: hadn't thought about GREGS Wendell in a very very long time.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was in the news a couple of

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Speaker 1: years ago. I think something happened to one of his

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Speaker 1: family members. Do you remember, maybe his daughter.

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Speaker 3: I tend to remember the most random things. But the

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Speaker 3: problem is I never get the story right. But I

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Speaker 3: think a tragedy befell their family. I can't remember exactly.

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Speaker 5: I just what it did.

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Speaker 3: She went missing, but did they find her? She's okay, okay, good, good,

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Speaker 3: good good, Okay. I thought it related to his daughter,

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Speaker 3: but she's okay. Well, that's good anyway. In Sharpstown High School, boy,

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Speaker 3: then the University of Texas, Roger Clemens, spring Woods High

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Speaker 3: School in the spring Woods, and then University of Texas

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Speaker 3: and then just dominant in the pros, absolutely dominant. You

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Speaker 3: know what we're gonna take. We're gonna take one segment.

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Speaker 3: Clemens went to Sharpstown. When I said he went to Sharpstown,

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Speaker 3: Clemens went to UH. Roger went to h spring Woods.

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Speaker 3: I think I'm almost positive the rocket went to spring Woods.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take one segment coming up. There's ten people

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Speaker 3: out there out of our entire listening on wait to

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Speaker 3: move to Wait what come? Because this is part of

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Speaker 3: the fiber of our being. And I want you to

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Speaker 3: call up and mention one astro that we might not

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Speaker 3: have thought of. It doesn't have to be your favorite astro,

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Speaker 3: just an astro that saying that astro's name. Just saying

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Speaker 3: it out loud makes you happy. Once that player's name

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Speaker 3: is mentioned. The rules of this game that we're creating

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Speaker 3: on the fly mean you have to be listening. If

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Speaker 3: you're on hold, you cannot mention them twice.

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Speaker 1: This is not a vote a tally for greatest Astro.

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Speaker 3: So I'm not gonna mention. You know who mine are.

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Speaker 3: You can take them off the seventy eight to nineteen

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Speaker 3: eighty teen. But I don't want to steal somebody's ability

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Speaker 3: to say a player's name. You get to say one name,

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Speaker 3: and if you're on hold and someone else says your

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Speaker 3: player's name, then you have to you have to think

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Speaker 3: of another player. It does not have to be your

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Speaker 3: favorite player. It's only a player's name that's saying their name,

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Speaker 3: and you can say it as it was said when

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Speaker 3: they were announced, coming up to coming on the field,

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Speaker 3: up to bat, or anything else. We'll do that for

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Speaker 3: one segment because it feels good to do so. Seven

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Speaker 3: one three nine nine nine one thousand. Be ready, it's

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Speaker 3: going to be a lightning round.

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Speaker 5: Be ready.

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Speaker 3: When I go to you, I'm fine, You're fine. Seven

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Speaker 3: one three nine one thousand.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to brag, but I just got a

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Speaker 8: check that text by Terry Poole.

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Speaker 3: If you'd have told eight year old Michael Berry that

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Speaker 3: he got a text from Terry Poole, I'd a peed

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Speaker 3: myself like July out in the snow.

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Speaker 5: I really would have.

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Speaker 3: He said, Trump, he loves Trump. Trump has hit the

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Speaker 3: ground sprinting. And how about Billy Wagger beautiful don't know,

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Speaker 3: Terry Pooles. You can't do Terry Poole, He's been done.

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Speaker 3: Marked that one off for this seven one three nine

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Speaker 3: nine nine one thousand one second coming up