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Speaker 1: As I said, it's election eve in the Succession universe,
Speaker 1: which means a big at n party at Kasa Wam's
Speaker 1: gans hosted by Tom and Shiv.
Speaker 3: What do you think about that.
Speaker 2: They should not have hosted this party together? I could
Speaker 2: have told them that last week. I understand that they
Speaker 2: were failing lonely. They had to reconnect. But this was
Speaker 2: a bad move. I would sell, sell, sell on Tom
Speaker 2: and Hiv.
Speaker 1: We'll just saying I think you're you're jumping the gun,
Speaker 1: because before you sell, before you buy, let's talk about
Speaker 1: something that's that's red hot, and that's the sexual.
Speaker 3: Relationship.
Speaker 1: Tom and Shiv rejuvenated. They're back together, at least on
Speaker 1: the physical plane. Shiv, meanwhile, is acting as Matson's informant
Speaker 1: on the inside of Wastar roycoach. She's letting the Swede
Speaker 1: in real time know how her brothers intend to tank
Speaker 1: the Gojo deal, which is huge because Ken's living plush.
Speaker 1: Spiel sent Wastar's stock into the stratosphere. Tom, because they've
Speaker 1: things are going so well, at least the sex, they
Speaker 1: can't stop texting about it.
Speaker 3: It's disgusting.
Speaker 2: They also like incredibly boring text us and it's like,
Speaker 2: really sad.
Speaker 3: How's the sex? Unbelievable? How's your PETI is?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, money, it's not giving them any good
Speaker 2: sexting skills.
Speaker 1: Tom gives Shiv the gift of a scorpion in some
Speaker 1: sort of plastic, some sort of acrylic. I wish we
Speaker 1: knew what a company put the scorpion in the acrylic
Speaker 1: so he could invest in it. But he does this
Speaker 1: one because it's a reference to the famous frog and
Speaker 1: the scorpion tail, which is a lesson about how the
Speaker 1: parable about how the scorpion's across the river and the
Speaker 1: frog is there, and he says, hey, frog, I need
Speaker 1: to cross the river.
Speaker 3: Can I get on your back? And the frogs like,
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: You're a scorpion. You sting because you have the stinger
Speaker 1: and that's how it goes. And the Scorpion's like, no, I.
Speaker 3: Won't do it.
Speaker 1: I promise because if I if I stung you, you
Speaker 1: would you would die and then I would drown.
Speaker 3: So I'm not going to do it.
Speaker 1: And then as the frog is taking the scorpion across
Speaker 1: the river, it stings it. And this is the thing
Speaker 1: that Tom is referencing here.
Speaker 2: Very romantic.
Speaker 3: I think it's very romantic. I think it's wonderful.
Speaker 1: And he says that it's because a shiv is being
Speaker 1: quote such a hot piece of ass and quote a
Speaker 1: foxy little minx, and I think that's wonderful.
Speaker 2: I want to say, if Tom had just bought Shiv
Speaker 2: a nice piece of jewelry, here or something vaguely sentimental.
Speaker 2: I feel like the whole fall out of this episode
Speaker 2: could have been avoided. But it is actually good that
Speaker 2: the episode goes the way that it needs to go,
Speaker 2: because this is just truth a curry the scorpion that
Speaker 2: will go down in all time TV terrible gifts. But
Speaker 2: I loved every second.
Speaker 1: I don't think it was that bad. I think it
Speaker 1: was kind of funny, and I think Shiv. I think
Speaker 1: Shiv is just a person who can't take any criticism
Speaker 1: or reference to how shitty she has been.
Speaker 3: But also Tom is shitty, so it's hard to unwrap.
Speaker 2: I think I think Tom. I think you raise a
Speaker 2: great point. I think Tom was ready to be more
Speaker 2: self aware and like snarky and self referential about how
Speaker 2: toxic their relationship was. Shif is not ready for that.
Speaker 2: Chiff wanted to settle back into this idea that they
Speaker 2: had some great marriage that was passionate and they loved
Speaker 2: each other and they could trust each other. But that's
Speaker 2: just not true.
Speaker 1: Ken Roy is busy working on things that are happening
Speaker 1: on six continents, and he's doing it all because he
Speaker 1: wants to protect his children. Allegedly. On that note, he
Speaker 1: meets Rava, his ex. Rava has called this meeting which
Speaker 1: Ken barely has that listen if this is a legal thing,
Speaker 1: He says like, I just don't have time for it.
Speaker 3: I don't have the bandwidth.
Speaker 1: I got all this stuff happening, this gojo and the
Speaker 1: suite and all this stuff and the living plus and
Speaker 1: all that stuff.
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 1: And she says, Okay, what happened is our daughter, Sophie
Speaker 1: was pushed by a person who was wearing a raven
Speaker 1: head hat and they also kind of said something of
Speaker 1: a racial nature. Now, a Ravenhead, you might recall, is
Speaker 1: the atn anchor who has read Mind Camp several times
Speaker 1: and has named his dog Blondie after Hitler's dog Blondie
Speaker 1: Rip Blondie.
Speaker 3: Ken flips out, saying to Rava.
Speaker 1: Like, where were you? Why was our daughter on the street? Kid,
Speaker 1: Like I would do anything to protect her. You must
Speaker 1: tell me all the details. And Robin's like, why don't
Speaker 1: you try calling her every once in a while?
Speaker 2: Rob's like, why was I raising your daughter?
Speaker 1: Raising your daughter while you were who knows what? Prop
Speaker 1: Number one here on market moves. What's the longest a
Speaker 1: parent can go without talking to their child and still
Speaker 1: be considered a good parent. How long let's say the
Speaker 1: child is.
Speaker 3: Thirteen.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be controversial. Hit. If Kendall Roy was my dad,
Speaker 2: I would actually think it was baf him to not
Speaker 2: call me.
Speaker 4: So I'm saying the longer he goes, the bad parent
Speaker 4: he is in calling my child. Interesting. I think you
Speaker 4: can go eighteen hours. You have to call every day.
Speaker 1: At thirteen, he hasn't been calling her eighteen months.
Speaker 2: I'm just laying.
Speaker 1: You it's been it's been a it's been a year's
Speaker 1: certainly months.
Speaker 3: But I think it's you.
Speaker 2: Have to I think it text maybe.
Speaker 1: I think I think if it doesn't average out to
Speaker 1: something like once every business day, then probably something is wrong.
Speaker 1: And I think let's put an absolute floor on it.
Speaker 1: Three and a half times a week.
Speaker 2: I think that's good because also it could start with
Speaker 2: once a day when you get the divorce and you
Speaker 2: just want the kids to know you all that, and
Speaker 2: then it can become more of a chill routine thing.
Speaker 2: But we know if he can go, it can go down.
Speaker 3: It can go down.
Speaker 2: Are you going to have the consistency? Yes? I think.
Speaker 3: Okay, Now what about eight years old? Eight years old.
Speaker 2: You should be calling him every night to say good night.
Speaker 2: Let's be real. If it's your good parent, Kendall, worry,
Speaker 2: he's probably sending Oka say money.
Speaker 1: Okay, but what if Ken is working on things on
Speaker 1: six continents and times content minus Antarctica. But we're working
Speaker 1: on something there obviously. And by the way, stock tip
Speaker 1: of the day look for waste star roycode to.
Speaker 3: Expand into entire There's something happening there. I can't really.
Speaker 2: Talk about more tips.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, on the gojo front, Ken and Roman are pulling
Speaker 1: out all the stops to kill this deal, to murder
Speaker 1: it in its crib. That means full penetrative rat fucking,
Speaker 1: and attempt to find any issue at all, personal or
Speaker 1: professional with which to attack Mats and to get him
Speaker 1: out of their hair. In case the stock bump fades
Speaker 1: or Mattson decides to come over the top of one,
Speaker 1: he somehow finds the juice to come over one ninety two.
Speaker 1: Also like props to Ken for this living plus stock bump,
Speaker 1: this completely fictitious technology slash real estate mashup. It's amazing
Speaker 1: that this bump has taken place, but it might.
Speaker 3: It could feed.
Speaker 2: You never know, I will say horrible to say it,
Speaker 2: but if.
Speaker 3: You're here, this is Marco muse saying.
Speaker 2: I'm saying if you're here for the money, if you're
Speaker 2: here for the moves. This is the hard truth. Kendall's
Speaker 2: nightmarish manic performance with the stockbump and how good Roman
Speaker 2: is at rat fucking. That is a powerful combination if
Speaker 2: they could keep that consistent. Because Roman finds that shout
Speaker 2: quickly through like one phone call. He doesn't have to
Speaker 2: cozy up to Lucas, he doesn't have to play a game.
Speaker 2: He wants it done, and he has those connections. That
Speaker 2: is a dangerous pairing. The problem is we know that
Speaker 2: the two of them are not consistent. This guy knows
Speaker 2: how to fuck a rat. He knows how to fuck
Speaker 2: a rat. That's one thing people say about Roman Amory the.
Speaker 1: Boys speaking of rat fucking, they need an expert. You
Speaker 1: don't just go amateur when it's time to rat fun.
Speaker 1: You have to go for a professional. So the Boys
Speaker 1: invite Democratic strategist, former ship boy and current chief of
Speaker 1: staff something to Gil Evis and also affiliated with the
Speaker 1: with potential President elect Jimenez. They call Nate in to
Speaker 1: work the regulatory angle. Shiv gets word of this, and
Speaker 1: she calls Lucas to warn him, Hey, my brothers are
Speaker 1: going to go regulatory. Why don't you come to the
Speaker 1: Aten election party. My dad, before he died bending over
Speaker 1: the toilet to fish his phone out, did invite you
Speaker 1: to the Aten election party. So why don't you just
Speaker 1: come to the party because you need to counter this
Speaker 1: regulatory strategy. Meanwhile, Greg, acting as Tom Wamscan's hangman, fires
Speaker 1: one hundred folks from eight in in three days promptly
Speaker 1: number two zoom And honestly, that's the kind of empathy
Speaker 1: and warmth and emotion that I That was beautifully done.
Speaker 2: I have to say, I feel like that is one
Speaker 2: of the realist moments that has ever been in Succession,
Speaker 2: is that you're getting fired by some Nepo baby over
Speaker 2: zoom who's reading. He's not even quarter, he's just the
Speaker 2: just then and you're getting fired by a nepple baby
Speaker 2: over the zoom with CODs and he can't even read them, right,
Speaker 2: it was perfection.
Speaker 1: One thing I'll note, and I think this is one
Speaker 1: of the most subtle subtle messages from in the world
Speaker 1: of Succession. If you watch that zoom, it's uh, I
Speaker 1: was surprised to see that so many women and women
Speaker 1: of color and people of color work at ATN. Always
Speaker 1: the first to go yep, that's what Tom wams gans
Speaker 1: know knows, and that's what Greg is helping him with.
Speaker 1: Prompt number two, Are you a good person if you
Speaker 1: work for ATN?
Speaker 2: No? I just I'm sorry. Everyone everyone has to have
Speaker 2: a job. I understand the hair at market moves. We
Speaker 2: have very good job with very rich We have millions
Speaker 2: of dollars, billions of dollars. We don't you know, we
Speaker 2: can't really complain. But look, I worked in a lot
Speaker 2: of sheet jobs in my life, and there's always a
Speaker 2: shit job that you can take to pay the rent
Speaker 2: that is not working at ATN, that is not promoting
Speaker 2: like a neo Nazi UH presidential candidate. Also, I think
Speaker 2: it's the ultimate trap. There are surely people there are
Speaker 2: ATN who are subjectively or even objectively like all good people,
Speaker 2: and they want to change things from the inside let happen.
Speaker 1: They love their they love their pets, they love their kids,
Speaker 1: They call their kids once every month.
Speaker 3: Good people work at ATN.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, at the party, Roman gets a call from GOP
Speaker 1: presidential candidate Hair mancing. You know about Jared Mencin, the
Speaker 1: neo Nazi fascist GOP candidate who we just mentioned Team
Speaker 1: one thousand year Reich is down in the polls. They're
Speaker 1: down from a thousand years. It looks like it's going
Speaker 1: to be I don't know, we can't really put a
Speaker 1: number on it, but certainly they're like three percent down
Speaker 1: in the polls. And they figure, hey, here's an idea
Speaker 1: from camp mencan.
Speaker 3: What if.
Speaker 1: Presidential candidate Connor Roy, currently pulling at one present in
Speaker 1: Alaska and other states with similar wildlife to people ratios,
Speaker 1: drops out? What if he drops out? The people who
Speaker 1: love Connor Roy, the kanheads might go Mencon. To sweeten
Speaker 1: the deal for Connor, they offer him the ambassadorship to Somalia.
Speaker 1: He counters with, Hey, I love to get to Europe.
Speaker 1: Of course he would, of course, he of course he'd
Speaker 1: love to get to Europe. What he says, what if
Speaker 1: I come up through the underbelly? What if I come
Speaker 1: up to the Balkans? What about Albania? What about Croatia?
Speaker 1: What about Bosnia Herzegovina? What about one of those places?
Speaker 1: They say, no, okay, what about South Korea? Top ten
Speaker 1: and GDP and they have nukes. No, okay, what about
Speaker 1: North Korea? We don't have an ambassador there. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: what if I'm the guy? What if I open it
Speaker 1: up like Nixon and China? They're like, no, okay, what
Speaker 1: about Oman?
Speaker 3: Interesting?
Speaker 1: Connor says, I'll take it to Willa and we'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. I will pitch Oman to her. Lucas arrives
Speaker 1: at the party in a gold shiny bomber.
Speaker 2: Is unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable and I think maybe my favorite detail from this episode.
Speaker 1: Lucas Matson arrives wearing Kyries.
Speaker 2: Yes, it is such a big state, and that constantly
Speaker 2: in frame. Yeah, all the times he's always sitting in
Speaker 2: some funny posts, so you can see that he's wearing I.
Speaker 3: Want you to know that he's wearing Kyries.
Speaker 1: Lucas Mattson probably knows nothing about the NBA, but huge
Speaker 1: fan of Kyrie.
Speaker 2: And that says what it says, It really does.
Speaker 1: The bros are thrown for a loop. They didn't expect
Speaker 1: Mattson to be here. They have no idea that this
Speaker 1: is Shiv's doing, so they tell Shiv you need to
Speaker 1: stick to him like glue. Okay, and find out what
Speaker 1: he's up to. She goes over to Matson and she says, listen,
Speaker 1: you need to act semi normal. This is a big deal.
Speaker 1: You're on the biggest stage, right I act like you're Kyrie.
Speaker 1: You get the ball in your hands, game seven clock
Speaker 1: winding down. You need to act normal, like a normal
Speaker 1: capitalist who maybe fires like one hundred people over zoom
Speaker 1: over three days, not some eurotech like data freak who
Speaker 1: just thinks of people as like a way to acquire
Speaker 1: information and intelligence.
Speaker 3: Don't do that.
Speaker 1: Act like a person who just has a lot of money,
Speaker 1: a regular.
Speaker 3: Person who's a lot of money. No normal, that's right.
Speaker 1: Later, mattson Lobby's Nate, Nate Shiv's former flame, telling him listen,
Speaker 1: I'm a normal guy, just like Shiv has been telling
Speaker 1: me to say.
Speaker 3: These are safe hands and what are you gonna do?
Speaker 1: You're gonna let the deal go through to the fail
Speaker 1: Suns and they're just like their dad, but they're dumber
Speaker 1: like I'm smart. I'm from Europe and I created Gojoe YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: You should give it to me. I'm wearing kyries and
Speaker 1: a cool bomber.
Speaker 3: I'm cool.
Speaker 1: He also says and also big changes at ATN. Like
Speaker 1: you don't like as a Democrat, you don't like the
Speaker 1: messaging that comes from ATN because why because they support
Speaker 1: a neo Nazi.
Speaker 3: Kennedy a big deal. But for you, here's what I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna do regime change like you guys
Speaker 1: did Interact. I'm gonna do regime change there and everybody
Speaker 1: out you know who that means. Particularly that means Tom
Speaker 1: Doo's apartment.
Speaker 3: We're doing this in but we're gonna fire Tom. But
Speaker 3: don't tell him.
Speaker 1: He's standing right over there watching me say this, but
Speaker 1: don't say anything. Ken also pitches Nate, Hey, okay, I
Speaker 1: know you just had a minute with Lucas Mattson.
Speaker 3: Here's my pitch.
Speaker 1: What if you take Uncle Sam big muscly thighs and
Speaker 1: you wrap them around Gojo's neck and you squeeze, and
Speaker 1: in return for that, ATN will go easy Like Sunday
Speaker 1: morning on President Jimenez.
Speaker 3: For his first hundred days.
Speaker 1: You walk into that first hundred days, that big press
Speaker 1: conference where you say, hey, here's what happened in the
Speaker 1: first hundred days, and you go there without any criticism
Speaker 1: or anything from ATN.
Speaker 3: We're just going to.
Speaker 1: Talk about like how the water is making people grow
Speaker 1: breasts on their cheeks or something like that. Okay, that's right,
Speaker 1: Or how Disney now wants everybody to wear pink all
Speaker 1: the time. That's what we're going to talk about at ATN,
Speaker 1: not the president. Prob Number three, is this a good deal?
Speaker 1: Regulation for smooth sailing on ATN for one hundred days?
Speaker 3: Good deal? Do you counter? If you are Nate?
Speaker 2: I think Nate knows Kendall too well to know that
Speaker 2: Kendall cannot promise that ATN those people are going to
Speaker 2: say whatever they want. We know that the anchors are
Speaker 2: going to say what they want. You can fire as
Speaker 2: many of them as you want if you want the ratings,
Speaker 2: which Kendall wants. They're going to say wow, shit, and
Speaker 2: they're not gonna support a Democrat. Go easy on a Democrat. Also,
Speaker 2: this is a bad plan in general because they essentially
Speaker 2: want the regulation to stop the deal because they're going
Speaker 2: to say it's a monopoly issues.
Speaker 3: Especial crossover gambling.
Speaker 2: I have seen in real life when those mergers are stopped,
Speaker 2: both companies lose a fuck ton of money. So this
Speaker 2: is just a pure chaotic Kendle plan, and I sees.
Speaker 1: You can't have like a Swedish person with their head
Speaker 1: corporate headquarters in Norway. That's like an anti trust thing.
Speaker 1: You will find something.
Speaker 3: Law that's law.
Speaker 1: Ken in Rome discover bom Bomb that Matson has been
Speaker 1: doing something untoward towards his head of communications. Ever, this includes,
Speaker 1: but is perhaps not limited to, the sending of bodily fluids,
Speaker 1: certainly blood, perhaps others. And also have we done at
Speaker 1: also which, to be fair, could just be stuck in
Speaker 1: the blood.
Speaker 2: We don't know what that was.
Speaker 1: So they Yeah, I'm just saying, like, let's cut the
Speaker 1: guy's some slack. Obviously that's bad, but you know what. Anyway,
Speaker 1: they approach her after Greg walks up and fake fires
Speaker 1: her on Lucas's behalf kind of trying to get close
Speaker 1: to the guy, and they discover from Ebba the gojo's
Speaker 1: Indian numbers, the subscriber numbers from India are fraudulent, a sham.
Speaker 1: They're for gazy. This is just the thing they need
Speaker 1: to get the government to kill the deal. They don't
Speaker 1: even need to get the government to kill the deal.
Speaker 1: They can just tell the board, hey, it's fifty percent
Speaker 1: stock in a company that's inflated because the Indian numbers
Speaker 1: are fake and the board will absolutely reject them.
Speaker 2: I just want to mention, do you remember recently in
Speaker 2: the history of Succession where somebody else named Kendall Roy
Speaker 2: inflated some numbers.
Speaker 3: I don't recall. I don't. I don't recall. That may
Speaker 3: have happened, and we may have.
Speaker 1: We may have talked about and if I did talk
Speaker 1: about it, then I just don't remember it right now. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I just changed vitamins and I'm going up.
Speaker 3: This news set. Shiit of shivering.
Speaker 1: She's concerned because she has gone full mats, and she
Speaker 1: confronts him and he's basically like, yeah.
Speaker 2: Is exactly why I think Mason is so dangerous is
Speaker 2: because Mason is the only honest person. He's fucking horrible,
Speaker 2: but he's honest about it. He's honest about lying, honest
Speaker 2: about being a sham. He's honest about the way he
Speaker 2: abuses people. He's the opposite of the Roys, who do
Speaker 2: all of that ship and struggle to repress it and
Speaker 2: keep it secret. But I did really feel for shif
Speaker 2: here because I had been enjoying watching Shiv just decimate
Speaker 2: and betray her brothers who had caught her out. But
Speaker 2: this timed on her way quicker than.
Speaker 1: You send some blood. Maybe it's twice the amount of
Speaker 1: blood that you thought. Maybe maybe the maybe the test
Speaker 1: tube is bigger than you expected and you have to
Speaker 1: fill it up. And now you've said, whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be, the Indian numbers, Lucas says, are imagine if
Speaker 1: there were two Indias, but they.
Speaker 2: Might make sense.
Speaker 3: Then they might make sense.
Speaker 1: So in other words, they have two hundred percented India.
Speaker 1: No wonder, the stock looks great, and he says, like, listen,
Speaker 1: here's what's up. It's not gonna fucking matter. Sure, if
Speaker 1: this drags out the the reddit, you know, Wall Street
Speaker 1: bets subreddit people, those under the brim Thromblins down there,
Speaker 1: those mean stalkers, they'll get out there and they'll short
Speaker 1: me and they'll put all sorts of funny little gifts
Speaker 1: under the under the short and stuff, and they'll they'll be.
Speaker 3: Mean to me.
Speaker 1: But if this waste, if the Waistar deal goes through,
Speaker 1: and it goes through quick, then you just do you
Speaker 1: do a little like Doug heading, like a little magician.
Speaker 1: You're just kind of like go like this and then
Speaker 1: like it's gone, It's gone SHIV. Meanwhile, Roman chats with Jerry,
Speaker 1: who is attending the party, but she's very angry. She's
Speaker 1: angry because Roman actually did fire her. As we saw
Speaker 1: the last episode, it was kind of like a half firing.
Speaker 1: It's gone full firing.
Speaker 2: He wants to pretend it wasn't a full firing. He's
Speaker 2: in covering what he's Oh, it wasn't real. I just
Speaker 2: said it. But Jerry has had a true revelation here
Speaker 2: that I wish more people around the boys would have.
Speaker 3: She's outing.
Speaker 1: And Jerry says, listen, you did fire me. That was
Speaker 1: true what you did do it. And here is what
Speaker 1: I want to turn because I'm going full fucking legal
Speaker 1: on your ass.
Speaker 3: Okay, I want hundreds of millions of dollars.
Speaker 2: I want to ring sums, taking nothing less. Jerry is
Speaker 2: here for the money. We respect our market move. She
Speaker 2: deserves it. She's probably the shape it too long.
Speaker 1: The money. All when you look at this figure, all
Speaker 1: the blood drings from your body and runs down out
Speaker 1: through your feet.
Speaker 3: And you die. That's how much money I want.
Speaker 1: Secondarily, Jerry says, I have hired a full pr team
Speaker 1: to craft the narrative around this separation. It's not going
Speaker 1: to be a firing. It's going to be a mutual
Speaker 1: party away something that makes me look good and makes
Speaker 1: me look like a fucking hot shot. And if you, Roman, Roy,
Speaker 1: try to fuck with that narrative it.
Speaker 2: All for years. She's like, for five years, if I
Speaker 2: have anything that contradicts me, I say.
Speaker 1: I'm going Dnghis Khan on your fucking ass and I'm
Speaker 1: releasing all of the copious dick pics the you have
Speaker 1: sent me over the several months with which we had
Speaker 1: a very strange dalliance. So don't let that happen. And
Speaker 1: and Roman's.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he really doesn't have a choice. I think
Speaker 2: he in I really believe in that moment he was like,
Speaker 2: I'm just giving out the money.
Speaker 1: After talking it over with will O Connor decides to
Speaker 1: stay in the race. Anything happens is the beauty of
Speaker 1: the system. And I've been saying this for years. I've
Speaker 1: been saying this for years, Rosie.
Speaker 3: The beauty of the.
Speaker 1: American system is anything can happen, any any any dark
Speaker 1: horse candidate can suddenly become president. Now Roman is pissed
Speaker 1: because he's like, well, why are you listening to Willa
Speaker 1: and not like your brother?
Speaker 3: This is like really important.
Speaker 1: You've you've gotten the carrot, You've been offered the ambassadorship
Speaker 1: to Aman, take it. You're not going to be elected
Speaker 1: president and your wife and Air quotes He says doesn't
Speaker 1: know what she's about, but cong goes with Willa because
Speaker 1: she's the only one who believes them, And I think
Speaker 1: that's sweet. Prop Number four, buy or sell con and Willer?
Speaker 1: How long do you give them?
Speaker 2: I'm buying Conan Willer right now because I truly believe
Speaker 2: in the fucked up world of succession and the real world,
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not fully betting against the fact that
Speaker 2: Connor could become president just because it's so Nightmary. Anything
Speaker 2: can happen, or could become vice president to Menkin or something.
Speaker 2: And I also think, look, we are Willer supporters here,
Speaker 2: we are support of Willa.
Speaker 3: I would say she's a playwright.
Speaker 2: She's a playwright, talented writer, talent right, creative. You know,
Speaker 2: they just bought a sixty five million dollar house in Figure.
Speaker 2: It's a fixer upper. You know, they need to stay there.
Speaker 2: They need to commit their time to that. They need
Speaker 2: to make sure that that's going to become the home
Speaker 2: where they want to live. They don't need to go
Speaker 2: to a month and she doesn't need to decorate. What's
Speaker 2: she going to do? Take her mom to decorate the compound?
Speaker 1: When when conn is telling her about about Oman, the
Speaker 1: Jewel of Arabia, Uh, she says, but where we live
Speaker 1: in a compound in Muscat And she would say and
Speaker 1: she says, but it's would we be above ground?
Speaker 2: That was my favorite willing moment. I was like, I
Speaker 2: know she's been up late at night, look at looking
Speaker 2: at those like uh war three like talking compounds on
Speaker 2: the ground that like are like six miles in a tube.
Speaker 2: She's been she's been planning.
Speaker 1: She thinks they're gonna like live in hobbiton or something nice.
Speaker 3: I also agree.
Speaker 1: I'm going along on conon Willa. I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: go the distance. And by the distance, I mean the
Speaker 1: natural lifespan of either partner. Yes, one of them will
Speaker 1: perish before the divorce I agree is final and that's
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Lucas and Ken get into it in
Speaker 1: front of the whole party. It is very awkward and weird. Uh.
Speaker 1: They kind of start out with with Lucas kind of
Speaker 1: playing the like the like the euro supremacist card, saying
Speaker 1: essentially like New York City, it's it's a second class city,
Speaker 1: not like any all the other first class cities like
Speaker 1: in the in the world, like I don't know, Singapore,
Speaker 1: which is a city state or soul, you know. And
Speaker 1: then and then they pivot to Gojo's numbers. Ken says, well,
Speaker 1: what about your India's numbers? That's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: Looking amazing, almost unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then, uh, Lucas has absolutely no comeback for this, and
Speaker 1: so he calls the Living plus numbers, which Ken pitched
Speaker 1: so ably in the previous episode.
Speaker 3: He calls them gay.
Speaker 2: I have to say, this is actually a very accurate
Speaker 2: European insult, like sadly, like that is still where we're at,
Speaker 2: like so much of my life that was like if
Speaker 2: something was bad, that's what people would say. Also, I
Speaker 2: just want to say this is a classic Lucas isn't
Speaker 2: actually an idiot and he's not dangerous at all. Moment Oh,
Speaker 2: he could have just done reflection. He could have just
Speaker 2: been like, well, bye, you're living plus numbers. Those were
Speaker 2: looking kind of crazy, and he could have just said
Speaker 2: exactly what Kenda said, but instead he went for the
Speaker 2: weird homophobic insults and in a party that somehow it
Speaker 2: was very strange, but it was very, very perfectly awkward.
Speaker 3: Ken points out that that is in fact homophobic, and strangely.
Speaker 3: Ken is right.
Speaker 1: They hug it out and Lucas Lee, which is also
Speaker 1: extremely strange. And then in the Big Papper to the Evening,
Speaker 1: Tom fed up with forty of the US's most important,
Speaker 1: most powerful, most culturally relevant people gossiping about how he's
Speaker 1: about to get.
Speaker 3: Fucking shit canned.
Speaker 1: He basically says, like, h shit, I'm going to bet
Speaker 1: I can't take any more of this. She was like, what,
Speaker 1: the party's not over yet. You get to stay up
Speaker 1: for like forty five more minutes. The votes are coming in,
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So they go outside and
Speaker 1: they have a huge fight about their relationship and we're.
Speaker 2: Trying to play lost Windows that everyone every and.
Speaker 3: Can hear it.
Speaker 1: This is echoing across the canyons of New York City.
Speaker 1: Tom is saying that Shiv is broken.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: He's saying, you wanted me to go to prison. She's like,
Speaker 3: you wanted to go, but you want to go to prison.
Speaker 1: He's like, but yeah, you were happy, you like couldn't
Speaker 1: wait for me to go to prison and uh, and
Speaker 1: she's like, but all right, but I'm like super stressed
Speaker 1: because I put like a big bet on Matson and
Speaker 1: it looks like Mattson has hit the iceberg and is
Speaker 1: going down and he says we should never have gotten
Speaker 1: married and uh, and she says that's right because you're
Speaker 1: a HIC and your family are strivers and are fucking losers.
Speaker 1: And also your mom Caroline likes me better than you,
Speaker 1: So what does that say? And then finally she says,
Speaker 1: she says, I don't even care about you. You don't
Speaker 1: deserve me and you never did.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that comeback comes off that Tom tells that
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be a mom, which we all know is
Speaker 2: super brutal because SIV is currently pregnant as far as
Speaker 2: we know, maybe as far away baby someone it's unclear
Speaker 2: that's a baby at play. This was just an unbelievably
Speaker 2: hard to watch argument.
Speaker 3: It was very very hard to watch.
Speaker 1: And then the uh, the uh, the palate cleanser for this,
Speaker 1: the ginger as they say, uh is Ken talking to
Speaker 1: Frank saying, hey.
Speaker 2: Ken is such a little fucking snake.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, come with me, we're gonna run it back.
Speaker 1: Frank is like, I don't understand this, this lingo of
Speaker 1: the children. I don't what does that mean? And he says,
Speaker 1: this is what we do. We go reverse Viking. Right,
Speaker 1: Gojo's numbers are inflated. Once that news hits the street,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be buyable. We buy them, waste oar Royko
Speaker 1: buys Gojo and then we rule the world. Frank, are
Speaker 1: you in? He's like, okay, but what about what about
Speaker 1: Roman and Chiv? And he says, I don't know what
Speaker 1: about him? I don't see him here? Do you see him?
Speaker 3: That's right? Do you say you have him in your pocket? Frank?
Speaker 3: Where are they? Although though they're not here, that's right.
Speaker 3: It's you and me. Do you want?
Speaker 1: In Prompt number five is can the new logan or
Speaker 1: will he go down in flames at the end of
Speaker 1: this season?
Speaker 2: I would love to see him go down in flames
Speaker 2: because I think he is just a soulless person. But
Speaker 2: I think if we look at the reality of succession,
Speaker 2: I think now would be a smart time to buy
Speaker 2: in on Kendall because I do believe that he could
Speaker 2: potentially become the next Logan, and I think we could
Speaker 2: end you heard it here first, Bye bye, bye bye.
Speaker 2: I think we could end in a situation where essentially
Speaker 2: nothing has changed, which I think is kind of the
Speaker 2: point of succession, where you end up with a new
Speaker 2: shithead that everyone in the family hates but kind of
Speaker 2: has to bow down to. In my dream, I want
Speaker 2: to see it where it's like Greg is in charge,
Speaker 2: because that's just so terrible. But I think the way
Speaker 2: Kendall is moving, and the way that Frank is tempted
Speaker 2: by this deal, even though he's wanted to be out,
Speaker 2: I think three episodes left, I think Kendall has a chance.
Speaker 1: I think that he's going down, and I think he's
Speaker 1: going down not in flames, but in waves. He says,
Speaker 1: notably to Lucas, I am the wave. I am the
Speaker 1: wave that's going to wash you away. And when I
Speaker 1: say waves, I mean the water that drowned the waiter
Speaker 1: at Shiv's wedding. I think, just like Roman Kenna, rat
Speaker 1: fucking Lucas. I think Lucas he's not just like some
Speaker 1: stationary prey. He must have his minions out there as well,
Speaker 1: looking for rats to have intercourse with and I think
Speaker 1: if he finds the right rat, that rat will divulge
Speaker 1: that Kenneth Roy killed a guy.
Speaker 2: Okay, I will say, all out kill the guy. I'm
Speaker 2: this isn't out that one. I wouldn't bound it. But
Speaker 2: if you're brave, if you want to take a risk.
Speaker 2: He killed who, as you mentioned, was so great at
Speaker 2: rat fucking today, it was Roman. Kendall has just gone
Speaker 2: into that room essentially said fuck Shiv, Fuck Roman, you know,
Speaker 2: fuck the fail bros, fuck the co CEOs. Roman could
Speaker 2: be the one to Rat. Fuck Kendall. I mean, na.
Speaker 3: Shiv can do it too. Notably, Can admitted.
Speaker 1: To his siblings that yes he did kill and listen,
Speaker 1: I hate to pull this card, but is that not
Speaker 1: one of the ten commandments?
Speaker 3: Don't do it?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: That's it says, right. There are number three or four.
Speaker 2: It's like thousands of years, guys, didn't you know by that.
Speaker 1: Number one is like the false idols. Number two is something.
Speaker 2: Else speaker to but don't kill someone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Then there's like the coveting one, and then there's like, hey,
Speaker 1: don't kill and that includes waiters at your sister's wedding.
Speaker 1: Don't do it and yet and it's illegal. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna come out. I think Lucas and or Shive
Speaker 1: d or Roman are gonna hang that dead waiter.
Speaker 3: Kids that waiter, all right, think.
Speaker 1: It's folks for Kenneth roy Short that stock right now.
Speaker 3: Up next, Yellow Jackets.
Speaker 2: We're stepping out of the airlock and into Yellow Jackets
Speaker 2: season two. And because there was a break, we're doing
Speaker 2: episodes five and six. We're gonna be a bit speedy
Speaker 2: through five so we can get into the real meat
Speaker 2: upon absolutely intended Episode six, Episode five, two Truths in
Speaker 2: the Lie, directed by Ben Semonof and written by Katherine
Speaker 2: Kurns and Sarah L. Thompson, picks off right where we
Speaker 2: left off end of episode four. Adult Van. She's running
Speaker 2: a VHS store. She's recommending queer cinema classics like Cheryl
Speaker 2: Daniel's Watermelon Woman. She's all in kids on VCR on
Speaker 2: all the things that you need if you want to
Speaker 2: watch an old videotape. And then lo and behold who
Speaker 2: walks in. It's tie and she's looking fucked up as always.
Speaker 2: It's going bad and in the nineties Wilderness what his
Speaker 2: followers are growing. She's doing some innocuous morning meditation. Sure
Speaker 2: doesn't seem that bad doing some breathing, listening to things,
Speaker 2: but there's an weird underlying threat of her becoming ever
Speaker 2: obsessed with Shawna's baby, who she can't wait to meet.
Speaker 2: Speaking of Seawanna's kids, Callie's still dating a COPO.
Speaker 3: This is listen.
Speaker 1: I know that cops they can do almost anything, except
Speaker 1: for when you ask them of their cop they have
Speaker 1: to tell you obviously, But like that's like it's like
Speaker 1: when you invite a vampire into your house. Yeah, can
Speaker 1: do anything, so but this feels like you can't do
Speaker 1: I have to.
Speaker 2: Say that literally can't take a high school girl and
Speaker 2: then still use the stuff she told you. So. In
Speaker 2: a rare move which I think is going to see
Speaker 2: rise up the fan faves, Callie quickly discovers that Jay
Speaker 2: is really this cop at m Sarahcusa thanks to him
Speaker 2: paying for their bowling tab, their innocent date bowling tab
Speaker 2: with his real card, and she decides to use this
Speaker 2: against him. In a very shifty shorna moved.
Speaker 3: I thought it was yeah, really well done.
Speaker 2: She just immediately says to him, oh, man, you're right,
Speaker 2: we should we should take things slow because he seems
Speaker 2: to think it's only illegal if he sleeps with her,
Speaker 2: which seems extremely fucked up but probably true. And she's like,
Speaker 2: you're right, we should take things slow because I just
Speaker 2: found out my mom she was cheating on my dad.
Speaker 2: But it wasn't with that guy that you think she murdered. No,
Speaker 2: it was with Randy, poor old slobby Randy. Back in
Speaker 2: the forest, Lovely Crystal and Misty are bonding over their
Speaker 2: mutual crash on Jack Gavorkian, famous doctor Death.
Speaker 3: I love what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I just think he's doing is sob it's so important,
Speaker 1: it's so good in retrospect, Is it a red that
Speaker 1: Misty loves a guy who takes people's lives like that's
Speaker 1: her not.
Speaker 2: Feeling berries hopeful for the fates of all those old
Speaker 2: people that she works with. Oh good, looking, bad looking bad,
Speaker 2: Oh good. Speaking of Misty and the present, Walter Lovely
Speaker 2: Elijah Wood doing just the most here. He's trying to
Speaker 2: bond with her. They're playing two tricks and a lie.
Speaker 2: He is very rich. He owns many Taco bell bonds,
Speaker 2: even though Anne stocks. He's been listening to market moves,
Speaker 2: but he's never eaten there. Misty does not care because
Speaker 2: all she cares about is fine in Natalie. That's right,
Speaker 2: And Natalie has stuck a lot his compound. And eventually,
Speaker 2: when Misty gets there and Natalie's like, please go away,
Speaker 2: don't ruin this for me, Van and Ty they reunited.
Speaker 2: You might think it's romantic. You might have been hoping
Speaker 2: for the lesbian love affair. No, Van is pissed off.
Speaker 2: Van's like, I know why you're here. Yeah, She's like,
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you for a long time. Why are you?
Speaker 2: It must be that sleepwalking, sleep walking again, killing people,
Speaker 2: chopping dog's heads off.
Speaker 3: How did you guess?
Speaker 2: Andy's like, yeah, yeah, but I got you this pen
Speaker 2: with like a boobs you can see a woman's boom.
Speaker 2: And Van is actually very charmed because we learn here
Speaker 2: that they were together long enough that they attended Jeff
Speaker 2: and Shawna's wedding together where they used one of these
Speaker 2: boob pen stop set like Jeff's mom. She could see
Speaker 2: the bosoms. She was very upset and poor Jeff. Speaking
Speaker 2: of Jeff, Shawna and Cally finally begin to bond as
Speaker 2: Cally reveals that she's now a criminal master mind who's
Speaker 2: lying to the cops. Jeff is very upset, but Sean's like,
Speaker 2: wait a.
Speaker 1: Minute, just like every day is like some other piece
Speaker 1: of insane bad news.
Speaker 3: Hey honey, I'm having an affair.
Speaker 1: Also I killed the guy. Hey honey, our daughter is
Speaker 1: fucking a cop.
Speaker 2: And he knows about it. And also she is complicit
Speaker 2: because I decided the best thing to do was to
Speaker 2: like tell her that I'm a murderer. So Shauna is
Speaker 2: very impressed with Callie's plan, though she does later on
Speaker 2: in the episode say it would have been better if
Speaker 2: you slept with him, because then it would have been
Speaker 2: in admissible.
Speaker 3: A fucking crazy thing, absolutely nuts.
Speaker 2: Sean is like, Cally, good plan. I'm gonna go to
Speaker 2: the motel with Randy and pretend to have sex with him,
Speaker 2: and you're gonna tell the cops. My mom's going to
Speaker 2: have sex with Randy at the motel. This is a
Speaker 2: terrible pank because Randy's an idiot, so I already knew
Speaker 2: this is going badly, But good for making most.
Speaker 3: Why don't you just actually fuck Randy?
Speaker 2: Literally, you've already like everything.
Speaker 3: Else, you have an affair and then kill the person.
Speaker 1: Somebody he's actually gonna have sex with you, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you involved your husband and all that.
Speaker 3: Just have sex with Randy or.
Speaker 2: One Jeff go with you and you have sex with
Speaker 2: Jeff and Randy just being there. I don't know, there's
Speaker 2: some kind of plan that could have been bad. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: in the wilderness, Oh, Travis is trying to break through
Speaker 2: to Harvey. Harvey's still staying quiet. Nobody knows where he went,
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what happened.
Speaker 1: I am with Travis here, Harvey. I know it's been tough.
Speaker 1: You've been out there. No one knows who've been going through.
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeada, YadA, YadA, YadA, Bro, where the fuck
Speaker 1: have you been?
Speaker 2: That's all I need to know. Yeah, he's saying, just
Speaker 2: tell me that one thing, nothing else. Just tell me
Speaker 2: that you did you survive?
Speaker 3: Have to fucking it's for me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, And obviously Travis is still you know, He's
Speaker 2: saying to him like it's okay, Like some fucked up
Speaker 2: shit happened on Doom coming, Like they did try and
Speaker 2: have an orgy and rape me and then try and
Speaker 2: kill me. It was really fucked up. I'm sorry you
Speaker 2: saw that. And finally, as Natalie's like, don't worry, man, like,
Speaker 2: just give him time. Listeners, you've been waiting for us
Speaker 2: to acknowledge it. You've been waiting for Travis to acknowledge it.
Speaker 2: Travis yells at Natalie and he's like, fuck you. You
Speaker 2: faked the bloody clothes that you found in the forest
Speaker 2: to make me give up looking for Harvey.
Speaker 1: I mean, fair play to Travis, but if I'm Natalie here,
Speaker 1: I'm doubling, tripling, quadrupling down and just being like, what
Speaker 1: this fucking bloody there was bloody clothes.
Speaker 2: I don't know where I thought it was.
Speaker 3: I don't know where it came from.
Speaker 2: That. You're right, she should have done that. She's too honest,
Speaker 2: too pure. I will say she's right, though she's like,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense, Like I thought he was dead, Sorry,
Speaker 2: he should be dead. What the fuck is going on?
Speaker 1: It absolutely doesn't make sense. But that's a a very
Speaker 1: tough message when he is there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's also like really because how he's like,
Speaker 2: Travis is like, you know, maybe I could have saved him,
Speaker 2: like and he wouldn't be so fucked up. I was like, bro,
Speaker 2: it was just like three days later or something like,
Speaker 2: it was not much of a difference. Speaking of Natalie,
Speaker 2: she's trying to enact her plans to uncover a lot.
Speaker 2: He's evil again, sees Misty not happy about it, meets
Speaker 2: what she's like, who the fuck is this? Misty leaves
Speaker 2: and uh, it's a big Misty episode this week because
Speaker 2: here we go getting to someone. This is the big
Speaker 2: moment this episode. We learn a lot about Missy's twisted
Speaker 2: view on friendship as she and Crystal grow ever closer.
Speaker 2: They're bonding over these weird secrets, like having a crush
Speaker 2: on They're too warm, they're.
Speaker 1: Too optimistic, you could feel the dark something.
Speaker 2: Was going to happen. And they're bonding. They're telling their
Speaker 2: darkest secrets. Crystal's talking about she let a finger bang her.
Speaker 2: In the lead up to Hello Body, Misty walked in
Speaker 2: on her parents having Oh yeah, that the song they
Speaker 2: were saying when it happened, and uh, Misty is too
Speaker 2: comfortable because Cristal's really selling it. Christal's like, we are. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Not many people find people who will accept them for
Speaker 2: who they And I was like knowing at the screen
Speaker 2: and I was like, don't your.
Speaker 3: Deemest dog a secrets? I will excite accept that all
Speaker 3: about you. Whatever it is about you.
Speaker 2: Misty's face is glowing and I'm like, Misty, do not
Speaker 2: fucking do it. But I know you're going to do it.
Speaker 2: And Misty says, you've got a pinky swear, so they
Speaker 2: pinky swear, and she reveals to Crystal that the day
Speaker 2: after they crashed, she found the black box and GPS
Speaker 2: tracker of the plane and destroyed it. And she's like,
Speaker 2: don't tell anyone. And Christal's like, what the fuck is
Speaker 2: wrong with you? You're a psycho, You're the reason we
Speaker 2: never got rescued, like, and Missy's like, oh, I'm just
Speaker 2: joking Crystals. Like she's like, you're not that good of
Speaker 2: an actor, brutal And so you know Crystal rightfully or
Speaker 2: should I say Christa as we realized that her real
Speaker 2: name is Kristin I think, and she just never let
Speaker 2: anyone know because she's kind of meek and they got
Speaker 2: her name wrong and gave her a cool nickname, Crystal
Speaker 2: the Pistol. So she's backing away from Misty. She's gonna
Speaker 2: tell everyone. Understandably, obviously, Misty's freaking the fuck out because
Speaker 2: she's got a vague bit of acceptance post poisoning people
Speaker 2: and so she walks up to her, and I mean,
Speaker 2: Samantha Hanratty really delivers, because she is terrified delivers.
Speaker 3: It's all in the eyes, I believe. I believe.
Speaker 2: She looks Crystal and Christal says, what are you gonna do?
Speaker 2: Poison me? And Misty says, no, I will fucking kill you.
Speaker 2: And it's so scary that Crystal kind of steps back
Speaker 2: over the edge of a cliff. Whoops, all right, pe
Speaker 2: accidentally on purpose Misty's first murder.
Speaker 3: I'll say this, that is I think the penalty for
Speaker 3: breaking the Pinky swear.
Speaker 1: Okay, you swore that you would accept anything that Missy
Speaker 1: told you, and then you took it back after you
Speaker 1: pinky swore just because she destroyed the black Box and
Speaker 1: consigned all of you to endless weeks and months trapped
Speaker 1: in the wilderness.
Speaker 3: You said dead bodies, You said, you friend, you can't
Speaker 3: take that back, and now you're dead. That was fake.
Speaker 2: You know. Misty did not actually push us, so that
Speaker 2: was fate pushing her over the edge.
Speaker 3: But she, I mean, Misty like crowded her.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a full like arms extended, but it was
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get in your space and make a
Speaker 1: really scary face and I understand that you are like
Speaker 1: heels to a cliff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was accidentally on purpose, but we can say
Speaker 2: we have seen Missy's first victim at least as early
Speaker 2: as we know.
Speaker 1: And by the way, bad actress, I'm sorry, Crystal, you
Speaker 1: didn't see Misty playing.
Speaker 3: Off finding your dead body. You didn't see that because
Speaker 3: that was Merrol's street level.
Speaker 2: She is fucking ready. So things are going much beer
Speaker 2: in the present for Misty. Where we find out and
Speaker 2: an incredibly strange reflection that almost made me feel like
Speaker 2: was Walla somehow related to Crystal and this is like
Speaker 2: a weird vengeance plan. Walter reveals that he knows that
Speaker 2: Adam Adam who wasn't Harvey. He's like, he was murdered
Speaker 2: and it was you. I think you did it.
Speaker 3: Also, what a weird tone he does it in, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I just kind of like decided that you did it.
Speaker 3: I think you did it.
Speaker 2: And then and then in what was tense, he's like,
Speaker 2: but you gotta understand, it's like my grandma, I loved her.
Speaker 2: She sent me a Christmas card every year from prison
Speaker 2: because she mad at my grandpa.
Speaker 3: That's right, but you know what, she was.
Speaker 2: A good person. Like you're a good person. He's like,
Speaker 2: you're you're edgy, you're impulsive, you're charming, basically all the
Speaker 2: hallmarks of a serial killer. And I just want you
Speaker 2: to know I accept you. And Missus's like, not fucking
Speaker 2: doing this shit again, true, and she just leaves. She's like,
Speaker 2: I am not fucking doing that shit. And she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go join Lott East Colt because I gotta
Speaker 2: save my real friend Natalie. You know what, Natalie doesn't
Speaker 2: really want to help, but I once again appreciate Missy's tenacity.
Speaker 2: Van and ty were getting a lot of history here.
Speaker 2: Tya's a really bad friend, bad ex, bad friend, Van's
Speaker 2: mom died, Van's mom.
Speaker 1: Bad partner, bad mama, bad mom, bad bad stet senator.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, was going on about the state senatorship.
Speaker 3: Where had she been to the office doing her work?
Speaker 2: So we learned that Van's mum, who it seems like
Speaker 2: is implied that she was probably quite homophobic and toxic.
Speaker 2: Van had to take care of her for years as
Speaker 2: she died of cancer in Van's apartment. Van's business is
Speaker 2: going to shit, and Tye is like doing all this
Speaker 2: kind of weird emotional manipulation where she's like, I don't
Speaker 2: want your help because you know, I don't want you
Speaker 2: to get hurt, like everybody who I love. But it's like, Babe,
Speaker 2: you turned up at her house with no notice, so
Speaker 2: you kind of do want her help. And once again,
Speaker 2: like Bernie Sanders, we are asking for Tie to please
Speaker 2: get some professional help, and I don't like leave Van alone.
Speaker 2: Shawna and Randy's fake date is happening. It's really good.
Speaker 2: Shauna is absolutely decimating Randy, basically blackmailing him because he
Speaker 2: blackmailed her. And she's like, go and jerk off in
Speaker 2: this condom. It's a terrible idea. Randy cannot do it,
Speaker 2: and instead he's like, oh, there's some love, this will work.
Speaker 2: This could in no way backfire.
Speaker 1: I mean it's not I'm not a chemist, I'm not
Speaker 1: a biologist. It's an I don't think it's the same material.
Speaker 2: I would say. I think we can make that guess, right,
Speaker 2: at least, nat can.
Speaker 3: We check out?
Speaker 2: Guys?
Speaker 3: Can we can we check fact check? Is lotion the
Speaker 3: same as semen?
Speaker 2: We need that one fact check, guys. Seanna is not
Speaker 2: the only one doing a little confrontation as Natalie tries
Speaker 2: to show down Lottie and say Lotty scamming her followers,
Speaker 2: but turns out another surprise, lot has actually been super transparent.
Speaker 2: The followers give up their belongings and personal goods. They
Speaker 2: give their infots a lot because they trust her. Five
Speaker 2: stars on Yell Yeah, five stars for the wellness cult,
Speaker 2: and Lotty kind of breaks through to that in this moment,
Speaker 2: which is going to lead to this kind of huge,
Speaker 2: shocking potential reveal at the end of the episode thanks
Speaker 2: to some immersive regression therapy. Before we get to that,
Speaker 2: we're in the past. Lotty's freaking shawn her out. She's
Speaker 2: talking to the baby. Shawna's like I'm out, I'm gone.
Speaker 2: She goes into the woods. Where's she going? Nobody knows
Speaker 2: but her and Tire gonna get stuck in a winter
Speaker 2: storm and it's gonna end rather badly. Harvey reveals his
Speaker 2: first line, which he tells to useless coach Ben So
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why he did that, but I guess
Speaker 2: he doesn't know he's been useless. And he says, my
Speaker 2: friend told me not to come back. Who's he talking about?
Speaker 3: Who is he talking about?
Speaker 2: Aunt, the Queen, some kind of other friend whoever he
Speaker 2: was staying with. And then we get that Oscar winning
Speaker 2: acting from Misty as she makes it back to the cabin.
Speaker 2: This is also incredibly raw to Crystal because Misty's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, I was out there. I lost Crystal
Speaker 2: in the snow. Oh my god, I was screaming her
Speaker 2: name and not Aquila in her give her her juice.
Speaker 2: She's like, we need to go find her. Everyone else goes,
Speaker 2: oh my god, Tie and sure and just leave, and
Speaker 2: it's like, poor Crystal, never getting the respect you deserve,
Speaker 2: never at all. Evan's home, we see nighttime Tie for
Speaker 2: the first time in a while, and she says, this
Speaker 2: is and where we're supposed to be very ominous after
Speaker 2: kissing Van unconsensually begging the question where does she want
Speaker 2: them to go? I'm sure we may find out soon.
Speaker 2: At Lotty's compound, Misty joins giving up all of her belongings.
Speaker 2: She's kind of like digging it a little bit, and
Speaker 2: Nat decides that she's going to do a regression of
Speaker 2: therapy with lot We learn a lot about her last
Speaker 2: night with Travis here. The pair got high, even though
Speaker 2: Travis was in a relationship and was trying to get
Speaker 2: clean and she odeed. While she overdosed, she had a
Speaker 2: nightmarish vision which showed all the girls on the plane
Speaker 2: dead done dun dune very much burnt up, as if
Speaker 2: they never survived the crash at all, and she says,
Speaker 2: we didn't make it, and Lotty says, none of us.
Speaker 2: Natalie claims that they brought something terrible back from the
Speaker 2: woods with them, and that is apparently what the note
Speaker 2: meant that Travis left where he said. Natalie was right,
Speaker 2: something did come back. So the big question is did
Speaker 2: they actually survive at all or is this all lost?
Speaker 2: Or are we in that parallel timeline.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think they did survive, but I
Speaker 1: think it's final destination. Yes, they cheated death.
Speaker 2: They cheated death, and now he wants it back. And
Speaker 2: speaking of cheating death, Shauna is about to die in
Speaker 2: a forest in the snow because she's going into labor,
Speaker 2: but using Lottie's mysterious meditation powers, the girls call Tie
Speaker 2: and Shauna back to the cabin just as Shauna goes
Speaker 2: into labor, and in one of the best needle drops
Speaker 2: in a series full of them, Misty says is she
Speaker 2: going into labor? And then they play mother by Danzig
Speaker 2: and the baby is coming long with the baby and
Speaker 2: it's onto Yellowjackets. Episode six.
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Speaker 2: watch it. Qui directed by documentarian Liz Garbus and written
Speaker 2: by Karen Joseph Adcock and Amini Rosa. In a very
Speaker 2: nostalgic nineties flashback, coach Ben leads a health class session
Speaker 2: on pregnancy. Misty is extremely intire fun and games, fun
Speaker 2: and games, all funny, games lost, the flirting, lots of Shenanigans.
Speaker 2: Misty wants to know how much blood there is, but
Speaker 2: everyone else couldn't be less interested in what's going on
Speaker 2: on the screen, ironic seeing as one of them will
Speaker 2: soon be giving birth to Blur song too. It's sunah
Speaker 2: and people are singing woo hoo as she screams in
Speaker 2: agony and the girls freak out. Misty was planning to
Speaker 2: be the Dula alongside with Crystal, but now Crystal is
Speaker 2: gone aka murdered, Misty doesn't know what to do Cam
Speaker 2: Green Pine. Missy's given up her phone, Walter's still texting her, well, yeah,
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen? Who's I need to know more? I
Speaker 2: want to know how he's gonna come back into it.
Speaker 2: We only have three episodes left of Yellow Jacket season.
Speaker 3: What do you think?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Let me ask you.
Speaker 1: It feels like Walter is going to be the as
Speaker 1: as dark and twisted as Misty is. It feels like
Speaker 1: Walter is going to be an even more dark, I
Speaker 1: mean twisted character he is.
Speaker 2: I think the way they're setting him up as being
Speaker 2: sort of like infinitely wealthy, Yeah, and he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to do anything, and all he does is this kind
Speaker 2: of true crime. I would assume he's kind of a
Speaker 2: perfect crime killer. He has he can get away with whatever.
Speaker 3: He's like a most dangerous game guy.
Speaker 2: Very girl with the dragon tattoo. You know, you have
Speaker 2: a huge compound and you can do whatever you want.
Speaker 2: So maybe Misty has had a clean escape here. It
Speaker 2: could be because maybe Walter is a wants to punish
Speaker 2: people who he thinks a guilty kind of killer, so
Speaker 2: he finds people like Misty who decides have murdered and
Speaker 2: then decides to murder them. Lotty understandably quite freaked out
Speaker 2: when she sees Misty interestingly as well. Seems like all
Speaker 2: of the girls thought Lottie was still institutionalized, so they
Speaker 2: had not checked in on her for a while. But
Speaker 2: this made me feel very sad as someone who has
Speaker 2: struggles with mental health and has kind of like knows
Speaker 2: and loves a lot of people who do. Lotti starts
Speaker 2: to see Misty arriving as kind of like it inspires
Speaker 2: some magical thinking, and she starts to think like, well,
Speaker 2: the wilderness is sending these people to me. There's a
Speaker 2: reason that this is happening. And so suddenly she's like, well, mistery,
Speaker 2: why don't you stay. She's like, you love Naalie, right,
Speaker 2: could be good for her, could be good for your friend.
Speaker 2: And you know what, looks like Sean is going to
Speaker 2: need somewhere to hide too, because Kevin tan good old Kevin,
Speaker 2: Nalie's old boyf calls him up to the police station
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, I need to talk to you.
Speaker 2: Jeff's like, babe, I've got your back. She's like, not you,
Speaker 2: You're relevant. She's like, he wants to talk to me
Speaker 2: and our daughter Kellie.
Speaker 3: Look, this, this is Kelly's high moment. This is the
Speaker 3: high watermark of Kelly.
Speaker 2: Kelly is too real. Seanna is losing it at this point.
Speaker 2: She is so chaotic. I will say, this is a
Speaker 2: crazy thing to say, we did mention this, But she
Speaker 2: does say to Kelly, Kelly's like, you know, I wasn't
Speaker 2: sleeping with him. We were just hanging out. Look. Shauna
Speaker 2: has no morals, no boundaries, and it's very chaoe. But
Speaker 2: she's not exactly wrong when she says it would have
Speaker 2: been better if you just sleep with him, then everything
Speaker 2: you would have told him would have been amissible. I
Speaker 2: will say, though, I feel like it's all in admissible.
Speaker 2: I feel it lying to a teenager A, No, it
Speaker 2: feels so.
Speaker 3: Going on a date with a teenage full day multiple who.
Speaker 1: You picked up in a bar under for the express
Speaker 1: purpose of discovering whether her mom killed.
Speaker 2: A guy or not, feels might not hold up in call.
Speaker 3: I don't think it's right. No, I don't think it's right.
Speaker 2: In There's many things going wrong in this episode, including
Speaker 2: in the wilderness. Shauna is in labor. We're here, the
Speaker 2: big episode is happening, the baby is coming, and the
Speaker 2: girls are really struggling to in like a non insane way.
Speaker 2: The reality of what is happening is quickly setting in.
Speaker 2: Lotty's crew starts saying unhinged things. He's like, let's share
Speaker 2: our hopes, and Maray goes wilderness. I hope that Shana
Speaker 2: doesn't die, and obviously Seana's like, what the fuck? Lotty
Speaker 2: starts a prayer circle and tis love for Shanna. I
Speaker 2: mean Jasmine Savoy Brown kills this episode. Yeah, it really
Speaker 2: shines through because she starts to push the colt away
Speaker 2: and basically decide she's going to support Shauna through this
Speaker 2: pain and the fear of the fact that this labor
Speaker 2: could go on for days. And Jasmine delivers this like series'
Speaker 2: best line where she's like you can fucking do anything
Speaker 2: to Seana when Sean is like, I can't do this,
Speaker 2: and it's just kind of the kind of line delivery
Speaker 2: that makes you tear up. At Lottie's, you know, modern
Speaker 2: day Wilderness Compound, Natalie is dealing with the fallout of
Speaker 2: her vision and kind of really feeling like she killed
Speaker 2: Travis Y she made him believe that something had come back,
Speaker 2: and you know, Lisa, I'm really trying to work out.
Speaker 2: I can't work if Nicole may AND's Lisa is gonna
Speaker 2: be a major player or is just like a really
Speaker 2: genuine great person that they've introduced because she has infinite
Speaker 2: patients and grace. It's a nice It doesn't matter what
Speaker 2: Natalie does. It is just like Lisa is there. Nali's
Speaker 2: shoeing a gun that's some ting cans, Noally's doing some
Speaker 2: crazy shit, and Lisa's there and she's like, I know
Speaker 2: things suck, man, but like we can get through this,
Speaker 2: and it's actually very very nice. So I'm interested to
Speaker 2: see where that goes. Van is sick of tie shit
Speaker 2: in the modern day as well, The Nighttime Ty reunion
Speaker 2: did not go well, and she says to Tie, like
Speaker 2: shelve these tapes, but you need to get out.
Speaker 3: I mean not even Shell. Don't worry about the tapes.
Speaker 2: I got it.
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of my shop.
Speaker 2: Literally, that's out of Fan's too nice. You need to
Speaker 2: be gone out of that shop. Which, by the way,
Speaker 2: if you want to have some fun before the horrible
Speaker 2: things really start to get going. This episode, the production
Speaker 2: design on Van's VHS shop is so fun. Like every
Speaker 2: movie they have Airplane, they like fucking Scream, like every
Speaker 2: movie that they highlight in there is so directly connected
Speaker 2: to the plot of the show and the kind of
Speaker 2: incredible queerness in like Horror and John Ricinema. It's just
Speaker 2: really fun. So in the wilderness, Misty absolutely flops it
Speaker 2: like it's all been leading to this. She was obsessed
Speaker 2: with the video, but you know what, she's traumatized. Yeah,
Speaker 2: she actually is traumatized. I wrote up a great interview
Speaker 2: that my ed air Amelia did at IGN. I wrote
Speaker 2: up a huge piece breaking down this episode, and Samantha says,
Speaker 2: like this is really one of the first times that
Speaker 2: you see Misty as a human, like she is legitimately
Speaker 2: traumatized about what happened to Crystal, even though it was
Speaker 2: absolutely her fault. Just want to say that. So Misty
Speaker 2: runs away, akil Asta delivered the baby, and Natalie tries
Speaker 2: to bring in Coach Ben. At this point, I'm ready
Speaker 2: for them to eat Coach Ben, because he is truly useless.
Speaker 2: I think they're doing a very good, interesting character arc
Speaker 2: of like the adult failing and adult basically disassociating and
Speaker 2: not being able to tap into that feral nature that
Speaker 2: the girls can do. But Natalie tries to bring in
Speaker 2: Coach Ben, and he as useless as ever and goes
Speaker 2: back to his disassociation corner.
Speaker 3: I think that's unfair to Coach Ben.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily inaccurate, but maybe unfair to his particular situation.
Speaker 1: He is, of course concerned that one day he will
Speaker 1: be eaten.
Speaker 2: Okay, it is true. He did see the meat of
Speaker 2: a person, and he is a person, and he did
Speaker 2: not eat the person. So I do feel for him.
Speaker 2: But I do think there's a really they're doing something
Speaker 2: really interesting here about the teenage girls are more open
Speaker 2: and flexible to this kind of horrific situation, whereas he
Speaker 2: is stuck in this idyllic past. There's this great moment
Speaker 2: where all he wants to do is just play charades
Speaker 2: and he's so scared and it's really really just brilliantly done.
Speaker 2: But also I needed him to help with this baby
Speaker 2: he didn't. Teenage girls are taking over Travis. Honestly another
Speaker 2: flop moment for me, but I get it. Like Travis
Speaker 2: decides the best thing to do is to grab a giant,
Speaker 2: creepy skull don't know when I came from some kind
Speaker 2: of treat creepy animals and commit a blood sacrifice. She's
Speaker 2: fully on team Lotty at this point. Shauna freaks the
Speaker 2: fuck out understandably, and it does as we will come
Speaker 2: see basically zero to materially help her labor a big
Speaker 2: zero Big Zero also probably very deeply. This seems like
Speaker 2: a Lotty and Travis like key memory here because she's
Speaker 2: like the wilderness recognizes your sacrifice and so do I
Speaker 2: and everyone's just looking at them like what is wrong
Speaker 2: with you? Back in the future, Lotti is not doing
Speaker 2: too well and I'm very I will ask you about this. Actually, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so we see her at the therapist, Yeah, who replaced
Speaker 2: her original therapist who's been treating her for years, and
Speaker 2: she starts talking about how she's worried that she's never
Speaker 2: been sick, and actually she's been right, and the wilderness
Speaker 2: is now sending the survivors back to her, the power
Speaker 2: of that place. The therapist really doesn't seem to be
Speaker 2: questioning any of this. Do you think there's some kind
Speaker 2: of like nefarious I was a big fan of this
Speaker 2: therapist at the beginning, who wanted to kind of encourage
Speaker 2: Lotty to see the vision through and understand them and
Speaker 2: not repress them. But when she was talking about this,
Speaker 2: I was very interested in whether the therapist had a
Speaker 2: vested interest in my believing.
Speaker 1: That I feel the same way. And I'm also after
Speaker 1: you know, what we see in this episode, which we're
Speaker 1: going to discuss soon, and what we've seen in other episodes.
Speaker 1: I'm also of I don't know how much to trust,
Speaker 1: Like is this therapist even real?
Speaker 3: Like you know, like how much of this is.
Speaker 1: Accurate to what we're being presented, because I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's even Is she talking to herself, is she
Speaker 1: talking to a real person?
Speaker 3: Is this happening in reality? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I agree, it feels weird. We're in distinct unreliable narrative territory,
Speaker 2: and so it's really interesting because she basically just does
Speaker 2: this speel where she's like, I believe that the god
Speaker 2: of the place, the wilderness, it was real, the power
Speaker 2: was real, and I think other people felt it, and
Speaker 2: that is why they're coming back. And classic weird Misty
Speaker 2: moment we get here at camp Goompime where she basically
Speaker 2: realizes she's like a celebrity because she knows Lottie and Natalie,
Speaker 2: so she's loving it. How sociopathic tendencies are coming out
Speaker 2: Kelly and Shawna. They head to the cop shop to
Speaker 2: chat to Kevin and Detective Sarahcuse I would have said no,
Speaker 2: would have got a lawyer. Yes, they're feeling.
Speaker 3: Never talk to the police without your lawyer, but honestly,
Speaker 3: I get it. I can't get it.
Speaker 2: And they're feeling exceedingly smug about the situation there and
Speaker 2: the two detectives, especially Sarahcusa, who are what a punctuable face,
Speaker 2: while Jeff, in one of another classic Jeff moment, he
Speaker 2: sits outside the police station just blaring fuck the police.
Speaker 3: Is a very very simple guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love him, really feeling that he wants a
Speaker 1: bang in tune, and he wants the furniture moving out
Speaker 1: of the store exactly.
Speaker 3: That's all he wants. Happy, that's it.
Speaker 2: As sean A battles through in the past, Aquila realizes
Speaker 2: that the placenta has been birthed before the baby was there.
Speaker 3: That seems bad.
Speaker 2: It seems bad, and as we if you join our discord,
Speaker 2: there's lots of good medical insight in there about what
Speaker 2: went wrong here, voding very badly for Shana's child. Lotty
Speaker 2: quickly realizes that things went wrong and actually does something
Speaker 2: good and goes to Misty and says, look, Katy, yeah,
Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on here? But you need
Speaker 2: to come back like you understand this stuff and we
Speaker 2: need you. While Lotty and her crew creepily pledge allegiance
Speaker 2: to the wilderness, would rather they didn't do that, but sure,
Speaker 2: Missy talks Shauna through her labor and she seems to
Speaker 2: have come back to the present, and after Shauna passes out,
Speaker 2: we get to meet her son. Very creepy, Lotty was right.
Speaker 2: She kept calling the baby a heat and all of
Speaker 2: her loving friends are around her. It's a rare moment
Speaker 2: of happiness for the survivors in the bleakness of winter.
Speaker 2: I will also say very reminiscent moment. If you remember,
Speaker 2: after Jackie passed away in the snow, Shawna had a
Speaker 2: dream where she woke up and saw everyone looking happy
Speaker 2: and Jackie was there and all was well. So beware.
Speaker 2: As Van and Tye kind of snark their way through
Speaker 2: the morning and the present day, Misty calls Tie and
Speaker 2: so finally Ty picks up and she's like, oh, by
Speaker 2: the way, Lotty's got a compound.
Speaker 3: You gotta check it out, you gotta check out.
Speaker 2: She's like weirdos, but the food's delicious.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
Speaker 2: And because the reunion has to be a holistic one,
Speaker 2: Ty's like, well, I'm gonna call Shawna. Shawna doesn't pick
Speaker 2: up because she's in the fucking but Jeff is on
Speaker 2: the phone and he's like, I'll take it.
Speaker 3: I'll take this one of the funny. Yeah, she's in
Speaker 3: the bathroom. She you know how she is. She takes
Speaker 3: a really long and guys like jam.
Speaker 2: And Ty's like, okay, well, guess what. We're all on
Speaker 2: our way or already at lot is a wellness compound
Speaker 2: upstate and just thought Shawna should know seems like something
Speaker 2: she'd want to know, you know. Kevin and Saracuza go
Speaker 2: for good cop, Bad Cop, the former interviewing Kelli and
Speaker 2: trying to be kind and say I know your mom,
Speaker 2: and the latter trying to get Shanna to break Melanie Lynsky.
Speaker 2: Melanie Lynsky's at a high level as she either finally
Speaker 2: kind of breaks or plays saracuse A beautifully. I actually
Speaker 2: think it's the former on a couple of watches, telling
Speaker 2: him she never wanted to be a mom, she never
Speaker 2: wanted to be married, and that she did have an affair.
Speaker 3: I believe this worked, but it really looks like it's
Speaker 3: going Julie looks like.
Speaker 2: It's gonna work, and she and then at the end
Speaker 2: she's like, I did have an affair, actually, and she
Speaker 2: should have remembered Misty's cookie rule, which was basically shut
Speaker 2: the fuck up and asked for a lawyer, because that
Speaker 2: will come back to buy her. In the other room,
Speaker 2: Kelly is.
Speaker 3: Doing very well well. Cally is.
Speaker 1: She's an impression, absolutely emerging here, like a Lebron Jeames
Speaker 1: type performance coming out of nowhere.
Speaker 3: We've been really hard on.
Speaker 2: Kelly this season. She's coming through. He's coming through, and
Speaker 2: she says to Kevin, She's like, you know what, maybe
Speaker 2: Sarahcusa slept with me to get this information that he wanted.
Speaker 2: Who's who are they gonna believe?
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's Who's to say he didn't?
Speaker 2: Who's to say he didn't? I mean, and where's the
Speaker 2: line between what he did do and what what I'm
Speaker 2: saying he did? You know what, As we've said many times,
Speaker 2: I just want to say again, feels like she wouldn't
Speaker 2: even need to do that because of the way he
Speaker 2: got this information. But you know what, just to be sure.
Speaker 2: It's really great because like Jeff and Seanna are having
Speaker 2: this huge kind of blow up in the car where
Speaker 2: Jeff's like, you're losing it. You're gonna fucking blow our
Speaker 2: lives up. I feel it. The chaos is coming. Jason
Speaker 2: was right on X ray vision. You want to just
Speaker 2: blow up your whole life? Yes, And Kelly gets into
Speaker 2: the car and she's like, Mom, I did exactly what
Speaker 2: you said and it went great.
Speaker 1: I love when toxicity and the covering up of crimes
Speaker 1: brings a family together.
Speaker 2: It's so hot arming, it's so hot arming, and you know,
Speaker 2: guess what, Jeff's like, you need to leave because you're
Speaker 2: a fucking liability.
Speaker 3: And it's really lucky.
Speaker 2: All your friends they're going see Lotti. No, she's not
Speaker 2: in a mental institute anymore. She actually runs this really
Speaker 2: creepy wellness place called Camp Green Pine, and everyone's there.
Speaker 3: So let me tell you, it's gonna give you nostalgic vibes.
Speaker 2: It's gonna make you feel you're in the wilderness yet,
Speaker 2: which is just what you want. Speaking of the wilderness,
Speaker 2: we get this great Sophie Nillies, who plays young Shauna,
Speaker 2: just absolutely delivers this episode. We get these early days
Speaker 2: of motherhood where Shauna struggles to bomb with her baby.
Speaker 2: He won't latch, she won't breastfeeds heartbreaking and the crying
Speaker 2: is driving everybody crazy.
Speaker 3: Baby wanted to milk.
Speaker 2: Baby wanted a milk, And you don't want to be
Speaker 2: in that cabin. You're already trying to survive the harsh
Speaker 2: winter and you hear a baby crying all the time.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants to and not to mention, but they're starving.
Speaker 1: You know, they haven't been eating a lot of people,
Speaker 1: and so there just isn't Her body's just.
Speaker 2: Milk and you know it's been going badly for Shauna,
Speaker 2: but it gets worse when Lottie takes him out of
Speaker 2: the crib in the middle of the night and tries
Speaker 2: to breastfeed him and Seana is like, absolutely not. It's
Speaker 2: very ominous. And after that the next day, Seanna finally
Speaker 2: gets him to latch, after espousing how she just loves
Speaker 2: him and she never thought she wanted to be a mum,
Speaker 2: but she can just can't wait for all the things
Speaker 2: he's gonna do and it's going to be so brilliant,
Speaker 2: and he latches and she breastfeeds him and as she
Speaker 2: promises her son, like I love you so much, you'll
Speaker 2: definitely be teering up. It's such a good moment, and
Speaker 2: there's this great hope, and Natalie comes in and she's like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, he's breastfeeding and Seawanna's like, just let
Speaker 2: me do this by myself, like I need it. I
Speaker 2: need this moment. But as you know, good things don't
Speaker 2: really last long in the world Yellow Jackets, so prepare yourself.
Speaker 2: Van and Tire kind of having this funny argument outside
Speaker 2: Camp Green Pine and Van's like, I'm definitely not going
Speaker 2: in there, which is very interesting. Seeing us how she
Speaker 2: reacts when she inevitably sees Lottie and they see Shawanna
Speaker 2: just roll up. I don't know how close that police
Speaker 2: station was, but Shawna is there and she is driving
Speaker 2: that red mini van into the camp. So Van's like,
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm going in. We're all here. It's happening.
Speaker 2: It's a Yellow Jacket's wilderness reunion. The adult women gather
Speaker 2: by the lake. While Van claims that she was planning
Speaker 2: to leave immediately, all of that changes because when she
Speaker 2: sees Lotty and Lauren Ambrose sells this shit so hard.
Speaker 2: She is just like entranced, Like Lotty turns around and
Speaker 2: Van's whole face just drops.
Speaker 1: It was really and the shot perfectly framed against like
Speaker 1: the woods, really good.
Speaker 3: It is good.
Speaker 2: I want to know what it means, like I need
Speaker 2: to know. As the camera kind of pans up and
Speaker 2: we get to see the whole compound, we see that
Speaker 2: the women are, of course standing in a giant version
Speaker 2: of the creepy symbol from the forest. It seems like
Speaker 2: an ominous enough ending and it cuts to black and
Speaker 2: I know that a bud of mine, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: he was not the only one actually thought it was
Speaker 2: the end of the episode because you get that big
Speaker 2: cliffhanger moment.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, Seuna wakes up, her baby is gone in the past.
Speaker 2: The beautiful, tweaky, horrible crib that was made for them
Speaker 2: is empty, and she enters the main living space of
Speaker 2: the cabin to find the that many viewers foresaw, including us.
Speaker 2: We wondered if it was going to happen, and the
Speaker 2: girls are feasting on the baby.
Speaker 3: I this was horrific, but I also knew it wasn't real. Things. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they shot it in a certain way that you and.
Speaker 2: There were people involved in it like Natalie who I
Speaker 2: feel like there were moments where you knew and it
Speaker 2: is horrible. It's gruesome. It's gory. I'm sure we got
Speaker 2: a lot of yells out of people. I would have
Speaker 2: loved to have some funny reaction cams to that. But
Speaker 2: when Shauna wakes up from the dream, we realized that
Speaker 2: she has not none of what we saw was true.
Speaker 2: She has been in the same position in labor that
Speaker 2: we've seen her before she passed out. She's laid out there,
Speaker 2: she's tired, she's sweaty, and instead of the smiling faces
Speaker 2: that she sees when we saw her wake up the
Speaker 2: first time. She sees that her friends are heartbroken because,
Speaker 2: as Ty and Misty tell her, the baby didn't survive.
Speaker 3: Heartbreaking.
Speaker 2: It is one of the most farmer endings of like
Speaker 2: any Presti show I've seen in a long time, and
Speaker 2: Sophie Ely sells it so hard where she cries and
Speaker 2: she says, why can't you hear him crying? And she
Speaker 2: just looks straight at the camera as they do a
Speaker 2: sidewipe and the screen cuts to black. It is like,
Speaker 2: I didn't want to rewatch it because it's so moving.
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this crazy theory for a crazy show,
Speaker 3: a crazy show, mysterious figure, a mysterious person, Shawna's ghost son.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to see it, I think, I mean,
Speaker 2: why not? I like this. He's alive and he's the
Speaker 2: he's the oldness, that kind of limbo space. I could
Speaker 2: definitely see that. I could also that would give you
Speaker 2: a very unique take on the final destination type situation.
Speaker 2: I also want to know who is Harvey's friend who
Speaker 2: looked after him in the forest. I think that could
Speaker 2: be an antler queen. I paused Episode five so many
Speaker 2: times when I was writing a piece five G because
Speaker 2: there is a moment in Natalie's vision where you see
Speaker 2: that ant the Queen take the chainmail off. I haven't
Speaker 2: been able to see who it was, but I did
Speaker 2: think it looked kind of like Natalie, that kind of
Speaker 2: idea that it's all in them. But yeah, I love
Speaker 2: that idea that it could be the spirit of Seana's baby, though.
Speaker 2: I do think in the interview at IGN the showrun
Speaker 2: has talked quite extensibly about just wanting that to be
Speaker 2: like a moment of realism, because really, let's be real,
Speaker 2: they were never going to be able to birth that
Speaker 2: baby in a safe way in that cabin Aquila, God
Speaker 2: bless her. She was literally like stroking a mouse while
Speaker 2: delivering the baby, like it was going to go badly.
Speaker 2: There was not a cleanliness or sense of you know,
Speaker 2: urgency there. So I don't know, but I want to know.
Speaker 2: I want to know what's going to happen because how
Speaker 2: much longer? Right? Is this like a Twin Peaks type
Speaker 2: situation where they're going to be forced to give some
Speaker 2: kind of answer in a second season to keep people watching,
Speaker 2: or are we going to be like five seasons in
Speaker 2: like loss.
Speaker 1: I think you have to listen. We're in the middle
Speaker 1: of a writer's strike. To take us out of the
Speaker 1: fictional world for a minute.
Speaker 2: Yellow Jackets did just go on strike after their first
Speaker 2: day writing season three.
Speaker 1: Nothing is promised in this world? Is there an even
Speaker 1: an official pickup for season three?
Speaker 2: That had been official pickup and they just started working
Speaker 2: on the first they'd literally worked on like a morning
Speaker 2: before they went on strike.
Speaker 1: I think you gotta start bringing the plane down to
Speaker 1: a landing level, not all the way to ground level,
Speaker 1: but like within sight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the little wheels are coming out.
Speaker 1: Because or I guess you could just leave it, leave
Speaker 1: it mysterious if if the real world and the strike
Speaker 1: and other things continue to intrude on the ability to
Speaker 1: tell the story. But it feels like we got to.
Speaker 3: We gotta come away from this season understanding what the
Speaker 3: f is going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a little bit more of the threat or
Speaker 2: the and even if that turns out to be a
Speaker 2: red herring, we at least want a little bit of
Speaker 2: that us.
Speaker 3: Yes, up next, more Yellow Jackets in the nerd out.
Speaker 2: In Today's not out, where you tell us what you
Speaker 2: love them, why, or a theory you're excited to share
Speaker 2: Chauncey shares a Yellow Jacket's theory very relevant.
Speaker 1: Chauncey talise right. Nat revealed she had a vision and
Speaker 1: that there is a darkness inside all of them internally.
Speaker 1: This is true and perhaps might manifest itself externally. My
Speaker 1: theory is that they all discovered the only way to
Speaker 1: rid themselves of it, the darkness, is to become a
Speaker 1: team again. They are all varying levels of miserable part
Speaker 1: and their full power can only be realized when they're together.
Speaker 1: I believe that this is true, whether what exactly how
Speaker 1: it mechanism is, I completely.
Speaker 2: Agree, and I think that that ties in very well
Speaker 2: to what we saw in episode six where for the
Speaker 2: first time they're all back together get together. I'm a
Speaker 2: campy person, so I would really love if it meant
Speaker 2: like they had to play like a football game together
Speaker 2: against evil, But I don't think that's what it's going
Speaker 2: to be. But I do think this idea of the
Speaker 2: team coherence and the coming together and actually choosing to
Speaker 2: be a group again and finding that community is going
Speaker 2: to be integral to defeating whatever they brought back with them.
Speaker 2: Thanks Chauncey. If you have theories or passions you want
Speaker 2: to share, hit us up x Ray at cricket dot
Speaker 2: com instructions in the show notes.
Speaker 3: That's it for us, Rosie, any plugs, I'm.
Speaker 2: Plugging the WGA, I'm doing it. We're talking about TV baby,
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Speaker 2: about showing up to a picket or sending some food,
Speaker 2: sending some supplies. It's a good way in your time.
Speaker 3: That's wonderful.
Speaker 1: Catch the next episode on Friday, May twelfth, which will
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Speaker 2: In that there was some really great Yellowjackets conversation, kind
Speaker 2: of understanding what probably happened with Shanna and the baby.
Speaker 2: Just really insightful, good stuff.
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