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Speaker 1: As I said, it's election eve in the Succession universe,

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Speaker 2: They should not have hosted this party together? I could

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Speaker 2: have told them that last week. I understand that they

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Speaker 1: We'll just saying I think you're you're jumping the gun,

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Speaker 1: Tom and Shiv rejuvenated. They're back together, at least on

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Speaker 1: Tom gives Shiv the gift of a scorpion in some

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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, on the gojo front, Ken and Roman are pulling

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Speaker 1: regulatory strategy. Meanwhile, Greg, acting as Tom Wamscan's hangman, fires

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Speaker 3: For his first hundred days.

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Speaker 1: And Jerry says, listen, you did fire me. That was

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00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,719
Speaker 1: true what you did do it. And here is what

439
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,479
Speaker 1: I want to turn because I'm going full fucking legal

440
00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: on your ass.

441
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: Okay, I want hundreds of millions of dollars.

442
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: I want to ring sums, taking nothing less. Jerry is

443
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: here for the money. We respect our market move. She

444
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: deserves it. She's probably the shape it too long.

445
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: The money. All when you look at this figure, all

446
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,080
Speaker 1: the blood drings from your body and runs down out

447
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: through your feet.

448
00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 3: And you die. That's how much money I want.

449
00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 1: Secondarily, Jerry says, I have hired a full pr team

450
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: to craft the narrative around this separation. It's not going

451
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: to be a firing. It's going to be a mutual

452
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,400
Speaker 1: party away something that makes me look good and makes

453
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: me look like a fucking hot shot. And if you, Roman, Roy,

454
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: try to fuck with that narrative it.

455
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,720
Speaker 2: All for years. She's like, for five years, if I

456
00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 2: have anything that contradicts me, I say.

457
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: I'm going Dnghis Khan on your fucking ass and I'm

458
00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: releasing all of the copious dick pics the you have

459
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: sent me over the several months with which we had

460
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: a very strange dalliance. So don't let that happen. And

461
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 1: and Roman's.

462
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he really doesn't have a choice. I think

463
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 2: he in I really believe in that moment he was like,

464
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: I'm just giving out the money.

465
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 1: After talking it over with will O Connor decides to

466
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: stay in the race. Anything happens is the beauty of

467
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 1: the system. And I've been saying this for years. I've

468
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,720
Speaker 1: been saying this for years, Rosie.

469
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 3: The beauty of the.

470
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 1: American system is anything can happen, any any any dark

471
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: horse candidate can suddenly become president. Now Roman is pissed

472
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: because he's like, well, why are you listening to Willa

473
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 1: and not like your brother?

474
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 3: This is like really important.

475
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: You've you've gotten the carrot, You've been offered the ambassadorship

476
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: to Aman, take it. You're not going to be elected

477
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 1: president and your wife and Air quotes He says doesn't

478
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 1: know what she's about, but cong goes with Willa because

479
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 1: she's the only one who believes them, And I think

480
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: that's sweet. Prop Number four, buy or sell con and Willer?

481
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: How long do you give them?

482
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 2: I'm buying Conan Willer right now because I truly believe

483
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,399
Speaker 2: in the fucked up world of succession and the real world,

484
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,439
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm not fully betting against the fact that

485
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: Connor could become president just because it's so Nightmary. Anything

486
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:27,879
Speaker 2: can happen, or could become vice president to Menkin or something.

487
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 2: And I also think, look, we are Willer supporters here,

488
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: we are support of Willa.

489
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 3: I would say she's a playwright.

490
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 2: She's a playwright, talented writer, talent right, creative. You know,

491
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 2: they just bought a sixty five million dollar house in Figure.

492
00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 2: It's a fixer upper. You know, they need to stay there.

493
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 2: They need to commit their time to that. They need

494
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 2: to make sure that that's going to become the home

495
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: where they want to live. They don't need to go

496
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 2: to a month and she doesn't need to decorate. What's

497
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: she going to do? Take her mom to decorate the compound?

498
00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 1: When when conn is telling her about about Oman, the

499
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: Jewel of Arabia, Uh, she says, but where we live

500
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 1: in a compound in Muscat And she would say and

501
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,639
Speaker 1: she says, but it's would we be above ground?

502
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: That was my favorite willing moment. I was like, I

503
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: know she's been up late at night, look at looking

504
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: at those like uh war three like talking compounds on

505
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,199
Speaker 2: the ground that like are like six miles in a tube.

506
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 2: She's been she's been planning.

507
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: She thinks they're gonna like live in hobbiton or something nice.

508
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 3: I also agree.

509
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm going along on conon Willa. I think they're gonna

510
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:41,080
Speaker 1: go the distance. And by the distance, I mean the

511
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,879
Speaker 1: natural lifespan of either partner. Yes, one of them will

512
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: perish before the divorce I agree is final and that's

513
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 1: the bottom line. Lucas and Ken get into it in

514
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: front of the whole party. It is very awkward and weird. Uh.

515
00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: They kind of start out with with Lucas kind of

516
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: playing the like the like the euro supremacist card, saying

517
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: essentially like New York City, it's it's a second class city,

518
00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: not like any all the other first class cities like

519
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: in the in the world, like I don't know, Singapore,

520
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: which is a city state or soul, you know. And

521
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 1: then and then they pivot to Gojo's numbers. Ken says, well,

522
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 1: what about your India's numbers? That's pretty crazy.

523
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:29,160
Speaker 2: Looking amazing, almost unbelievable.

524
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 3: Yeah.

525
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: Then, uh, Lucas has absolutely no comeback for this, and

526
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 1: so he calls the Living plus numbers, which Ken pitched

527
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: so ably in the previous episode.

528
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 3: He calls them gay.

529
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 2: I have to say, this is actually a very accurate

530
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,000
Speaker 2: European insult, like sadly, like that is still where we're at,

531
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: like so much of my life that was like if

532
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: something was bad, that's what people would say. Also, I

533
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 2: just want to say this is a classic Lucas isn't

534
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 2: actually an idiot and he's not dangerous at all. Moment Oh,

535
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 2: he could have just done reflection. He could have just

536
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: been like, well, bye, you're living plus numbers. Those were

537
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 2: looking kind of crazy, and he could have just said

538
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 2: exactly what Kenda said, but instead he went for the

539
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 2: weird homophobic insults and in a party that somehow it

540
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 2: was very strange, but it was very, very perfectly awkward.

541
00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 3: Ken points out that that is in fact homophobic, and strangely.

542
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: Ken is right.

543
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: They hug it out and Lucas Lee, which is also

544
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: extremely strange. And then in the Big Papper to the Evening,

545
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: Tom fed up with forty of the US's most important,

546
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: most powerful, most culturally relevant people gossiping about how he's

547
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: about to get.

548
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 3: Fucking shit canned.

549
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: He basically says, like, h shit, I'm going to bet

550
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: I can't take any more of this. She was like, what,

551
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 1: the party's not over yet. You get to stay up

552
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: for like forty five more minutes. The votes are coming in,

553
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:54,479
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So they go outside and

554
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: they have a huge fight about their relationship and we're.

555
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: Trying to play lost Windows that everyone every and.

556
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:00,719
Speaker 3: Can hear it.

557
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: This is echoing across the canyons of New York City.

558
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,920
Speaker 1: Tom is saying that Shiv is broken.

559
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

560
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 3: He's saying, you wanted me to go to prison. She's like,

561
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 3: you wanted to go, but you want to go to prison.

562
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,959
Speaker 1: He's like, but yeah, you were happy, you like couldn't

563
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: wait for me to go to prison and uh, and

564
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 1: she's like, but all right, but I'm like super stressed

565
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: because I put like a big bet on Matson and

566
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 1: it looks like Mattson has hit the iceberg and is

567
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 1: going down and he says we should never have gotten

568
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:37,000
Speaker 1: married and uh, and she says that's right because you're

569
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: a HIC and your family are strivers and are fucking losers.

570
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: And also your mom Caroline likes me better than you,

571
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: So what does that say? And then finally she says,

572
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: she says, I don't even care about you. You don't

573
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: deserve me and you never did.

574
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, And that comeback comes off that Tom tells that

575
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: you shouldn't be a mom, which we all know is

576
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 2: super brutal because SIV is currently pregnant as far as

577
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: we know, maybe as far away baby someone it's unclear

578
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: that's a baby at play. This was just an unbelievably

579
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: hard to watch argument.

580
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 3: It was very very hard to watch.

581
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: And then the uh, the uh, the palate cleanser for this,

582
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: the ginger as they say, uh is Ken talking to

583
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: Frank saying, hey.

584
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: Ken is such a little fucking snake.

585
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, come with me, we're gonna run it back.

586
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: Frank is like, I don't understand this, this lingo of

587
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 1: the children. I don't what does that mean? And he says,

588
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: this is what we do. We go reverse Viking. Right,

589
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: Gojo's numbers are inflated. Once that news hits the street,

590
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 1: they're gonna be buyable. We buy them, waste oar Royko

591
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: buys Gojo and then we rule the world. Frank, are

592
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: you in? He's like, okay, but what about what about

593
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 1: Roman and Chiv? And he says, I don't know what

594
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: about him? I don't see him here? Do you see him?

595
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 3: That's right? Do you say you have him in your pocket? Frank?

596
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: Where are they? Although though they're not here, that's right.

597
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 3: It's you and me. Do you want?

598
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: In Prompt number five is can the new logan or

599
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 1: will he go down in flames at the end of

600
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: this season?

601
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 2: I would love to see him go down in flames

602
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 2: because I think he is just a soulless person. But

603
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: I think if we look at the reality of succession,

604
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 2: I think now would be a smart time to buy

605
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 2: in on Kendall because I do believe that he could

606
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 2: potentially become the next Logan, and I think we could

607
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: end you heard it here first, Bye bye, bye bye.

608
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 2: I think we could end in a situation where essentially

609
00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: nothing has changed, which I think is kind of the

610
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 2: point of succession, where you end up with a new

611
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 2: shithead that everyone in the family hates but kind of

612
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: has to bow down to. In my dream, I want

613
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: to see it where it's like Greg is in charge,

614
00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 2: because that's just so terrible. But I think the way

615
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 2: Kendall is moving, and the way that Frank is tempted

616
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 2: by this deal, even though he's wanted to be out,

617
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 2: I think three episodes left, I think Kendall has a chance.

618
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: I think that he's going down, and I think he's

619
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: going down not in flames, but in waves. He says,

620
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: notably to Lucas, I am the wave. I am the

621
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: wave that's going to wash you away. And when I

622
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 1: say waves, I mean the water that drowned the waiter

623
00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: at Shiv's wedding. I think, just like Roman Kenna, rat

624
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: fucking Lucas. I think Lucas he's not just like some

625
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: stationary prey. He must have his minions out there as well,

626
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: looking for rats to have intercourse with and I think

627
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: if he finds the right rat, that rat will divulge

628
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: that Kenneth Roy killed a guy.

629
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: Okay, I will say, all out kill the guy. I'm

630
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: this isn't out that one. I wouldn't bound it. But

631
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 2: if you're brave, if you want to take a risk.

632
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: He killed who, as you mentioned, was so great at

633
00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: rat fucking today, it was Roman. Kendall has just gone

634
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: into that room essentially said fuck Shiv, Fuck Roman, you know,

635
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: fuck the fail bros, fuck the co CEOs. Roman could

636
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 2: be the one to Rat. Fuck Kendall. I mean, na.

637
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: Shiv can do it too. Notably, Can admitted.

638
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: To his siblings that yes he did kill and listen,

639
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: I hate to pull this card, but is that not

640
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 1: one of the ten commandments?

641
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: Don't do it?

642
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 2: Right?

643
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 3: That's it says, right. There are number three or four.

644
00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 2: It's like thousands of years, guys, didn't you know by that.

645
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 1: Number one is like the false idols. Number two is something.

646
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: Else speaker to but don't kill someone. Yeah.

647
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: Then there's like the coveting one, and then there's like, hey,

648
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: don't kill and that includes waiters at your sister's wedding.

649
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 1: Don't do it and yet and it's illegal. I think

650
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna come out. I think Lucas and or Shive

651
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: d or Roman are gonna hang that dead waiter.

652
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 3: Kids that waiter, all right, think.

653
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 1: It's folks for Kenneth roy Short that stock right now.

654
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 3: Up next, Yellow Jackets.

655
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Speaker 2: We're stepping out of the airlock and into Yellow Jackets

656
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 2: season two. And because there was a break, we're doing

657
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: episodes five and six. We're gonna be a bit speedy

658
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 2: through five so we can get into the real meat

659
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 2: upon absolutely intended Episode six, Episode five, two Truths in

660
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 2: the Lie, directed by Ben Semonof and written by Katherine

661
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 2: Kurns and Sarah L. Thompson, picks off right where we

662
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: left off end of episode four. Adult Van. She's running

663
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 2: a VHS store. She's recommending queer cinema classics like Cheryl

664
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 2: Daniel's Watermelon Woman. She's all in kids on VCR on

665
00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 2: all the things that you need if you want to

666
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 2: watch an old videotape. And then lo and behold who

667
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,839
Speaker 2: walks in. It's tie and she's looking fucked up as always.

668
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 2: It's going bad and in the nineties Wilderness what his

669
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,840
Speaker 2: followers are growing. She's doing some innocuous morning meditation. Sure

670
00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,720
Speaker 2: doesn't seem that bad doing some breathing, listening to things,

671
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: but there's an weird underlying threat of her becoming ever

672
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: obsessed with Shawna's baby, who she can't wait to meet.

673
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: Speaking of Seawanna's kids, Callie's still dating a COPO.

674
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:31,040
Speaker 3: This is listen.

675
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 1: I know that cops they can do almost anything, except

676
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: for when you ask them of their cop they have

677
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: to tell you obviously, But like that's like it's like

678
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,839
Speaker 1: when you invite a vampire into your house. Yeah, can

679
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,959
Speaker 1: do anything, so but this feels like you can't do

680
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: I have to.

681
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 2: Say that literally can't take a high school girl and

682
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: then still use the stuff she told you. So. In

683
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 2: a rare move which I think is going to see

684
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 2: rise up the fan faves, Callie quickly discovers that Jay

685
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 2: is really this cop at m Sarahcusa thanks to him

686
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:11,000
Speaker 2: paying for their bowling tab, their innocent date bowling tab

687
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: with his real card, and she decides to use this

688
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,919
Speaker 2: against him. In a very shifty shorna moved.

689
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: I thought it was yeah, really well done.

690
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 2: She just immediately says to him, oh, man, you're right,

691
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: we should we should take things slow because he seems

692
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: to think it's only illegal if he sleeps with her,

693
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: which seems extremely fucked up but probably true. And she's like,

694
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 2: you're right, we should take things slow because I just

695
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,880
Speaker 2: found out my mom she was cheating on my dad.

696
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 2: But it wasn't with that guy that you think she murdered. No,

697
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: it was with Randy, poor old slobby Randy. Back in

698
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: the forest, Lovely Crystal and Misty are bonding over their

699
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: mutual crash on Jack Gavorkian, famous doctor Death.

700
00:37:52,520 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: I love what he's doing.

701
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: I just think he's doing is sob it's so important,

702
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 1: it's so good in retrospect, Is it a red that

703
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: Misty loves a guy who takes people's lives like that's

704
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: her not.

705
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 2: Feeling berries hopeful for the fates of all those old

706
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 2: people that she works with. Oh good, looking, bad looking bad,

707
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 2: Oh good. Speaking of Misty and the present, Walter Lovely

708
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: Elijah Wood doing just the most here. He's trying to

709
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 2: bond with her. They're playing two tricks and a lie.

710
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 2: He is very rich. He owns many Taco bell bonds,

711
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 2: even though Anne stocks. He's been listening to market moves,

712
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,799
Speaker 2: but he's never eaten there. Misty does not care because

713
00:38:27,840 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 2: all she cares about is fine in Natalie. That's right,

714
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: And Natalie has stuck a lot his compound. And eventually,

715
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,280
Speaker 2: when Misty gets there and Natalie's like, please go away,

716
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: don't ruin this for me, Van and Ty they reunited.

717
00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: You might think it's romantic. You might have been hoping

718
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 2: for the lesbian love affair. No, Van is pissed off.

719
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: Van's like, I know why you're here. Yeah, She's like,

720
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 2: I haven't seen you for a long time. Why are you?

721
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 2: It must be that sleepwalking, sleep walking again, killing people,

722
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: chopping dog's heads off.

723
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: How did you guess?

724
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: Andy's like, yeah, yeah, but I got you this pen

725
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: with like a boobs you can see a woman's boom.

726
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: And Van is actually very charmed because we learn here

727
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: that they were together long enough that they attended Jeff

728
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: and Shawna's wedding together where they used one of these

729
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,239
Speaker 2: boob pen stop set like Jeff's mom. She could see

730
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 2: the bosoms. She was very upset and poor Jeff. Speaking

731
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,600
Speaker 2: of Jeff, Shawna and Cally finally begin to bond as

732
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,120
Speaker 2: Cally reveals that she's now a criminal master mind who's

733
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 2: lying to the cops. Jeff is very upset, but Sean's like,

734
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 2: wait a.

735
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:31,240
Speaker 1: Minute, just like every day is like some other piece

736
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: of insane bad news.

737
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 3: Hey honey, I'm having an affair.

738
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: Also I killed the guy. Hey honey, our daughter is

739
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: fucking a cop.

740
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: And he knows about it. And also she is complicit

741
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: because I decided the best thing to do was to

742
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 2: like tell her that I'm a murderer. So Shauna is

743
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: very impressed with Callie's plan, though she does later on

744
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 2: in the episode say it would have been better if

745
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 2: you slept with him, because then it would have been

746
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,040
Speaker 2: in admissible.

747
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:59,720
Speaker 3: A fucking crazy thing, absolutely nuts.

748
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 2: Sean is like, Cally, good plan. I'm gonna go to

749
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 2: the motel with Randy and pretend to have sex with him,

750
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 2: and you're gonna tell the cops. My mom's going to

751
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 2: have sex with Randy at the motel. This is a

752
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: terrible pank because Randy's an idiot, so I already knew

753
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: this is going badly, But good for making most.

754
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 3: Why don't you just actually fuck Randy?

755
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: Literally, you've already like everything.

756
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 3: Else, you have an affair and then kill the person.

757
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 1: Somebody he's actually gonna have sex with you, Yeah, and

758
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 1: you involved your husband and all that.

759
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: Just have sex with Randy or.

760
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: One Jeff go with you and you have sex with

761
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 2: Jeff and Randy just being there. I don't know, there's

762
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 2: some kind of plan that could have been bad. Meanwhile,

763
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 2: in the wilderness, Oh, Travis is trying to break through

764
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 2: to Harvey. Harvey's still staying quiet. Nobody knows where he went,

765
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:41,640
Speaker 2: Nobody knows what happened.

766
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 1: I am with Travis here, Harvey. I know it's been tough.

767
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: You've been out there. No one knows who've been going through.

768
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: It's crazy. Yeada, YadA, YadA, YadA, Bro, where the fuck

769
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: have you been?

770
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: That's all I need to know. Yeah, he's saying, just

771
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 2: tell me that one thing, nothing else. Just tell me

772
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: that you did you survive?

773
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,400
Speaker 3: Have to fucking it's for me.

774
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:04,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, literally, And obviously Travis is still you know, He's

775
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: saying to him like it's okay, Like some fucked up

776
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: shit happened on Doom coming, Like they did try and

777
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: have an orgy and rape me and then try and

778
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 2: kill me. It was really fucked up. I'm sorry you

779
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 2: saw that. And finally, as Natalie's like, don't worry, man, like,

780
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: just give him time. Listeners, you've been waiting for us

781
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: to acknowledge it. You've been waiting for Travis to acknowledge it.

782
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 2: Travis yells at Natalie and he's like, fuck you. You

783
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 2: faked the bloody clothes that you found in the forest

784
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: to make me give up looking for Harvey.

785
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: I mean, fair play to Travis, but if I'm Natalie here,

786
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: I'm doubling, tripling, quadrupling down and just being like, what

787
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: this fucking bloody there was bloody clothes.

788
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: I don't know where I thought it was.

789
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 3: I don't know where it came from.

790
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 2: That. You're right, she should have done that. She's too honest,

791
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: too pure. I will say she's right, though she's like,

792
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 2: it doesn't make sense, Like I thought he was dead, Sorry,

793
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 2: he should be dead. What the fuck is going on?

794
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: It absolutely doesn't make sense. But that's a a very

795
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 1: tough message when he is there.

796
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And it's also like really because how he's like,

797
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: Travis is like, you know, maybe I could have saved him,

798
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: like and he wouldn't be so fucked up. I was like, bro,

799
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 2: it was just like three days later or something like,

800
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: it was not much of a difference. Speaking of Natalie,

801
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: she's trying to enact her plans to uncover a lot.

802
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: He's evil again, sees Misty not happy about it, meets

803
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 2: what she's like, who the fuck is this? Misty leaves

804
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 2: and uh, it's a big Misty episode this week because

805
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: here we go getting to someone. This is the big

806
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:30,240
Speaker 2: moment this episode. We learn a lot about Missy's twisted

807
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: view on friendship as she and Crystal grow ever closer.

808
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,280
Speaker 2: They're bonding over these weird secrets, like having a crush

809
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 2: on They're too warm, they're.

810
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 1: Too optimistic, you could feel the dark something.

811
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: Was going to happen. And they're bonding. They're telling their

812
00:42:46,719 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: darkest secrets. Crystal's talking about she let a finger bang her.

813
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 2: In the lead up to Hello Body, Misty walked in

814
00:42:54,239 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 2: on her parents having Oh yeah, that the song they

815
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 2: were saying when it happened, and uh, Misty is too

816
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: comfortable because Cristal's really selling it. Christal's like, we are. Yeah.

817
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: Not many people find people who will accept them for

818
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: who they And I was like knowing at the screen

819
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 2: and I was like, don't your.

820
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 3: Deemest dog a secrets? I will excite accept that all

821
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: about you. Whatever it is about you.

822
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: Misty's face is glowing and I'm like, Misty, do not

823
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 2: fucking do it. But I know you're going to do it.

824
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 2: And Misty says, you've got a pinky swear, so they

825
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: pinky swear, and she reveals to Crystal that the day

826
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 2: after they crashed, she found the black box and GPS

827
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: tracker of the plane and destroyed it. And she's like,

828
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 2: don't tell anyone. And Christal's like, what the fuck is

829
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 2: wrong with you? You're a psycho, You're the reason we

830
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 2: never got rescued, like, and Missy's like, oh, I'm just

831
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: joking Crystals. Like she's like, you're not that good of

832
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 2: an actor, brutal And so you know Crystal rightfully or

833
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 2: should I say Christa as we realized that her real

834
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 2: name is Kristin I think, and she just never let

835
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 2: anyone know because she's kind of meek and they got

836
00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: her name wrong and gave her a cool nickname, Crystal

837
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: the Pistol. So she's backing away from Misty. She's gonna

838
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: tell everyone. Understandably, obviously, Misty's freaking the fuck out because

839
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: she's got a vague bit of acceptance post poisoning people

840
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: and so she walks up to her, and I mean,

841
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 2: Samantha Hanratty really delivers, because she is terrified delivers.

842
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 3: It's all in the eyes, I believe. I believe.

843
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: She looks Crystal and Christal says, what are you gonna do?

844
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:38,840
Speaker 2: Poison me? And Misty says, no, I will fucking kill you.

845
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: And it's so scary that Crystal kind of steps back

846
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 2: over the edge of a cliff. Whoops, all right, pe

847
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: accidentally on purpose Misty's first murder.

848
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,320
Speaker 3: I'll say this, that is I think the penalty for

849
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 3: breaking the Pinky swear.

850
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,320
Speaker 1: Okay, you swore that you would accept anything that Missy

851
00:44:57,440 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 1: told you, and then you took it back after you

852
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 1: pinky swore just because she destroyed the black Box and

853
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: consigned all of you to endless weeks and months trapped

854
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:07,680
Speaker 1: in the wilderness.

855
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 3: You said dead bodies, You said, you friend, you can't

856
00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 3: take that back, and now you're dead. That was fake.

857
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 2: You know. Misty did not actually push us, so that

858
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 2: was fate pushing her over the edge.

859
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 3: But she, I mean, Misty like crowded her.

860
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: It was.

861
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't a full like arms extended, but it was

862
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna get in your space and make a

863
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: really scary face and I understand that you are like

864
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:30,720
Speaker 1: heels to a cliff.

865
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was accidentally on purpose, but we can say

866
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 2: we have seen Missy's first victim at least as early

867
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: as we know.

868
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: And by the way, bad actress, I'm sorry, Crystal, you

869
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,239
Speaker 1: didn't see Misty playing.

870
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 3: Off finding your dead body. You didn't see that because

871
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 3: that was Merrol's street level.

872
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 2: She is fucking ready. So things are going much beer

873
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 2: in the present for Misty. Where we find out and

874
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 2: an incredibly strange reflection that almost made me feel like

875
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: was Walla somehow related to Crystal and this is like

876
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 2: a weird vengeance plan. Walter reveals that he knows that

877
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: Adam Adam who wasn't Harvey. He's like, he was murdered

878
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: and it was you. I think you did it.

879
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:12,359
Speaker 3: Also, what a weird tone he does it in, Yeah,

880
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 3: I just kind of like decided that you did it.

881
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 3: I think you did it.

882
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 2: And then and then in what was tense, he's like,

883
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: but you gotta understand, it's like my grandma, I loved her.

884
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:21,280
Speaker 2: She sent me a Christmas card every year from prison

885
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:22,520
Speaker 2: because she mad at my grandpa.

886
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 3: That's right, but you know what, she was.

887
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: A good person. Like you're a good person. He's like,

888
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,440
Speaker 2: you're you're edgy, you're impulsive, you're charming, basically all the

889
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 2: hallmarks of a serial killer. And I just want you

890
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: to know I accept you. And Missus's like, not fucking

891
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:38,120
Speaker 2: doing this shit again, true, and she just leaves. She's like,

892
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: I am not fucking doing that shit. And she's like,

893
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go join Lott East Colt because I gotta

894
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,279
Speaker 2: save my real friend Natalie. You know what, Natalie doesn't

895
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 2: really want to help, but I once again appreciate Missy's tenacity.

896
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 2: Van and ty were getting a lot of history here.

897
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 2: Tya's a really bad friend, bad ex, bad friend, Van's

898
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 2: mom died, Van's mom.

899
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: Bad partner, bad mama, bad mom, bad bad stet senator.

900
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, was going on about the state senatorship.

901
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: Where had she been to the office doing her work?

902
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,840
Speaker 2: So we learned that Van's mum, who it seems like

903
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,280
Speaker 2: is implied that she was probably quite homophobic and toxic.

904
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: Van had to take care of her for years as

905
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 2: she died of cancer in Van's apartment. Van's business is

906
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 2: going to shit, and Tye is like doing all this

907
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 2: kind of weird emotional manipulation where she's like, I don't

908
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 2: want your help because you know, I don't want you

909
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 2: to get hurt, like everybody who I love. But it's like, Babe,

910
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,840
Speaker 2: you turned up at her house with no notice, so

911
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 2: you kind of do want her help. And once again,

912
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: like Bernie Sanders, we are asking for Tie to please

913
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 2: get some professional help, and I don't like leave Van alone.

914
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 2: Shawna and Randy's fake date is happening. It's really good.

915
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:51,719
Speaker 2: Shauna is absolutely decimating Randy, basically blackmailing him because he

916
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 2: blackmailed her. And she's like, go and jerk off in

917
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 2: this condom. It's a terrible idea. Randy cannot do it,

918
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 2: and instead he's like, oh, there's some love, this will work.

919
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: This could in no way backfire.

920
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 1: I mean it's not I'm not a chemist, I'm not

921
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 1: a biologist. It's an I don't think it's the same material.

922
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: I would say. I think we can make that guess, right,

923
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: at least, nat can.

924
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 3: We check out?

925
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 2: Guys?

926
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: Can we can we check fact check? Is lotion the

927
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 3: same as semen?

928
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 2: We need that one fact check, guys. Seanna is not

929
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 2: the only one doing a little confrontation as Natalie tries

930
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 2: to show down Lottie and say Lotty scamming her followers,

931
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: but turns out another surprise, lot has actually been super transparent.

932
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,080
Speaker 2: The followers give up their belongings and personal goods. They

933
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: give their infots a lot because they trust her. Five

934
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: stars on Yell Yeah, five stars for the wellness cult,

935
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: and Lotty kind of breaks through to that in this moment,

936
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:49,720
Speaker 2: which is going to lead to this kind of huge,

937
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: shocking potential reveal at the end of the episode thanks

938
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: to some immersive regression therapy. Before we get to that,

939
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:58,839
Speaker 2: we're in the past. Lotty's freaking shawn her out. She's

940
00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: talking to the baby. Shawna's like I'm out, I'm gone.

941
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 2: She goes into the woods. Where's she going? Nobody knows

942
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: but her and Tire gonna get stuck in a winter

943
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 2: storm and it's gonna end rather badly. Harvey reveals his

944
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: first line, which he tells to useless coach Ben So

945
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm not sure why he did that, but I guess

946
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 2: he doesn't know he's been useless. And he says, my

947
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: friend told me not to come back. Who's he talking about?

948
00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 3: Who is he talking about?

949
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 2: Aunt, the Queen, some kind of other friend whoever he

950
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: was staying with. And then we get that Oscar winning

951
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 2: acting from Misty as she makes it back to the cabin.

952
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: This is also incredibly raw to Crystal because Misty's like,

953
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, I was out there. I lost Crystal

954
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: in the snow. Oh my god, I was screaming her

955
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: name and not Aquila in her give her her juice.

956
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 2: She's like, we need to go find her. Everyone else goes,

957
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 2: oh my god, Tie and sure and just leave, and

958
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 2: it's like, poor Crystal, never getting the respect you deserve,

959
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 2: never at all. Evan's home, we see nighttime Tie for

960
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: the first time in a while, and she says, this

961
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,359
Speaker 2: is and where we're supposed to be very ominous after

962
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 2: kissing Van unconsensually begging the question where does she want

963
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: them to go? I'm sure we may find out soon.

964
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 2: At Lotty's compound, Misty joins giving up all of her belongings.

965
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: She's kind of like digging it a little bit, and

966
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,719
Speaker 2: Nat decides that she's going to do a regression of

967
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 2: therapy with lot We learn a lot about her last

968
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:26,359
Speaker 2: night with Travis here. The pair got high, even though

969
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: Travis was in a relationship and was trying to get

970
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 2: clean and she odeed. While she overdosed, she had a

971
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 2: nightmarish vision which showed all the girls on the plane

972
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 2: dead done dun dune very much burnt up, as if

973
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: they never survived the crash at all, and she says,

974
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: we didn't make it, and Lotty says, none of us.

975
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 2: Natalie claims that they brought something terrible back from the

976
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 2: woods with them, and that is apparently what the note

977
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 2: meant that Travis left where he said. Natalie was right,

978
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: something did come back. So the big question is did

979
00:50:56,760 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 2: they actually survive at all or is this all lost?

980
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,960
Speaker 2: Or are we in that parallel timeline.

981
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 1: I think it's I think they did survive, but I

982
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,359
Speaker 1: think it's final destination. Yes, they cheated death.

983
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: They cheated death, and now he wants it back. And

984
00:51:07,719 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 2: speaking of cheating death, Shauna is about to die in

985
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: a forest in the snow because she's going into labor,

986
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 2: but using Lottie's mysterious meditation powers, the girls call Tie

987
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: and Shauna back to the cabin just as Shauna goes

988
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 2: into labor, and in one of the best needle drops

989
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 2: in a series full of them, Misty says is she

990
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: going into labor? And then they play mother by Danzig

991
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 2: and the baby is coming long with the baby and

992
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 2: it's onto Yellowjackets. Episode six.

993
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:44,680
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994
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:46,480
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995
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996
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997
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998
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999
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1000
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:02,719
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1001
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1002
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 2: we're back this episode. If you've watched it, sorry that

1003
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: you've already watched it. If you haven't watched it, go

1004
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,000
Speaker 2: and watch it, and then I'm sorry that you're gonna

1005
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 2: watch it. Qui directed by documentarian Liz Garbus and written

1006
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: by Karen Joseph Adcock and Amini Rosa. In a very

1007
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 2: nostalgic nineties flashback, coach Ben leads a health class session

1008
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 2: on pregnancy. Misty is extremely intire fun and games, fun

1009
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 2: and games, all funny, games lost, the flirting, lots of Shenanigans.

1010
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 2: Misty wants to know how much blood there is, but

1011
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,320
Speaker 2: everyone else couldn't be less interested in what's going on

1012
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 2: on the screen, ironic seeing as one of them will

1013
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,720
Speaker 2: soon be giving birth to Blur song too. It's sunah

1014
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 2: and people are singing woo hoo as she screams in

1015
00:52:52,360 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: agony and the girls freak out. Misty was planning to

1016
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 2: be the Dula alongside with Crystal, but now Crystal is

1017
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: gone aka murdered, Misty doesn't know what to do Cam

1018
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: Green Pine. Missy's given up her phone, Walter's still texting her, well, yeah,

1019
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 2: what's gonna happen? Who's I need to know more? I

1020
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 2: want to know how he's gonna come back into it.

1021
00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:15,919
Speaker 2: We only have three episodes left of Yellow Jacket season.

1022
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 3: What do you think?

1023
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:16,799
Speaker 4: Now?

1024
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 3: Let me ask you.

1025
00:53:19,239 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: It feels like Walter is going to be the as

1026
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 1: as dark and twisted as Misty is. It feels like

1027
00:53:25,320 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: Walter is going to be an even more dark, I

1028
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: mean twisted character he is.

1029
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 2: I think the way they're setting him up as being

1030
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 2: sort of like infinitely wealthy, Yeah, and he doesn't have

1031
00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:34,920
Speaker 2: to do anything, and all he does is this kind

1032
00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:36,480
Speaker 2: of true crime. I would assume he's kind of a

1033
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,520
Speaker 2: perfect crime killer. He has he can get away with whatever.

1034
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 3: He's like a most dangerous game guy.

1035
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 2: Very girl with the dragon tattoo. You know, you have

1036
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: a huge compound and you can do whatever you want.

1037
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: So maybe Misty has had a clean escape here. It

1038
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 2: could be because maybe Walter is a wants to punish

1039
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: people who he thinks a guilty kind of killer, so

1040
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: he finds people like Misty who decides have murdered and

1041
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,439
Speaker 2: then decides to murder them. Lotty understandably quite freaked out

1042
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 2: when she sees Misty interestingly as well. Seems like all

1043
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 2: of the girls thought Lottie was still institutionalized, so they

1044
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: had not checked in on her for a while. But

1045
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: this made me feel very sad as someone who has

1046
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 2: struggles with mental health and has kind of like knows

1047
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,320
Speaker 2: and loves a lot of people who do. Lotti starts

1048
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 2: to see Misty arriving as kind of like it inspires

1049
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 2: some magical thinking, and she starts to think like, well,

1050
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 2: the wilderness is sending these people to me. There's a

1051
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:34,959
Speaker 2: reason that this is happening. And so suddenly she's like, well, mistery,

1052
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,440
Speaker 2: why don't you stay. She's like, you love Naalie, right,

1053
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,160
Speaker 2: could be good for her, could be good for your friend.

1054
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 2: And you know what, looks like Sean is going to

1055
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 2: need somewhere to hide too, because Kevin tan good old Kevin,

1056
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 2: Nalie's old boyf calls him up to the police station

1057
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 2: and he's like, hey, I need to talk to you.

1058
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: Jeff's like, babe, I've got your back. She's like, not you,

1059
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: You're relevant. She's like, he wants to talk to me

1060
00:54:56,480 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 2: and our daughter Kellie.

1061
00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 3: Look, this, this is Kelly's high moment. This is the

1062
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:03,600
Speaker 3: high watermark of Kelly.

1063
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 2: Kelly is too real. Seanna is losing it at this point.

1064
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 2: She is so chaotic. I will say, this is a

1065
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 2: crazy thing to say, we did mention this, But she

1066
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: does say to Kelly, Kelly's like, you know, I wasn't

1067
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:17,040
Speaker 2: sleeping with him. We were just hanging out. Look. Shauna

1068
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 2: has no morals, no boundaries, and it's very chaoe. But

1069
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 2: she's not exactly wrong when she says it would have

1070
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 2: been better if you just sleep with him, then everything

1071
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 2: you would have told him would have been amissible. I

1072
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,080
Speaker 2: will say, though, I feel like it's all in admissible.

1073
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 2: I feel it lying to a teenager A, No, it

1074
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,480
Speaker 2: feels so.

1075
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:35,839
Speaker 3: Going on a date with a teenage full day multiple who.

1076
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: You picked up in a bar under for the express

1077
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: purpose of discovering whether her mom killed.

1078
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 2: A guy or not, feels might not hold up in call.

1079
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 3: I don't think it's right. No, I don't think it's right.

1080
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 2: In There's many things going wrong in this episode, including

1081
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,239
Speaker 2: in the wilderness. Shauna is in labor. We're here, the

1082
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,800
Speaker 2: big episode is happening, the baby is coming, and the

1083
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 2: girls are really struggling to in like a non insane way.

1084
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: The reality of what is happening is quickly setting in.

1085
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 2: Lotty's crew starts saying unhinged things. He's like, let's share

1086
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 2: our hopes, and Maray goes wilderness. I hope that Shana

1087
00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:15,320
Speaker 2: doesn't die, and obviously Seana's like, what the fuck? Lotty

1088
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 2: starts a prayer circle and tis love for Shanna. I

1089
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 2: mean Jasmine Savoy Brown kills this episode. Yeah, it really

1090
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,879
Speaker 2: shines through because she starts to push the colt away

1091
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 2: and basically decide she's going to support Shauna through this

1092
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 2: pain and the fear of the fact that this labor

1093
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: could go on for days. And Jasmine delivers this like series'

1094
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: best line where she's like you can fucking do anything

1095
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: to Seana when Sean is like, I can't do this,

1096
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 2: and it's just kind of the kind of line delivery

1097
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 2: that makes you tear up. At Lottie's, you know, modern

1098
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: day Wilderness Compound, Natalie is dealing with the fallout of

1099
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,720
Speaker 2: her vision and kind of really feeling like she killed

1100
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 2: Travis Y she made him believe that something had come back,

1101
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 2: and you know, Lisa, I'm really trying to work out.

1102
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 2: I can't work if Nicole may AND's Lisa is gonna

1103
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,359
Speaker 2: be a major player or is just like a really

1104
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 2: genuine great person that they've introduced because she has infinite

1105
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 2: patients and grace. It's a nice It doesn't matter what

1106
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:15,640
Speaker 2: Natalie does. It is just like Lisa is there. Nali's

1107
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 2: shoeing a gun that's some ting cans, Noally's doing some

1108
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: crazy shit, and Lisa's there and she's like, I know

1109
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,200
Speaker 2: things suck, man, but like we can get through this,

1110
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: and it's actually very very nice. So I'm interested to

1111
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 2: see where that goes. Van is sick of tie shit

1112
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 2: in the modern day as well, The Nighttime Ty reunion

1113
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 2: did not go well, and she says to Tie, like

1114
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 2: shelve these tapes, but you need to get out.

1115
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 3: I mean not even Shell. Don't worry about the tapes.

1116
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 2: I got it.

1117
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of my shop.

1118
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 2: Literally, that's out of Fan's too nice. You need to

1119
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 2: be gone out of that shop. Which, by the way,

1120
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:50,680
Speaker 2: if you want to have some fun before the horrible

1121
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: things really start to get going. This episode, the production

1122
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 2: design on Van's VHS shop is so fun. Like every

1123
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 2: movie they have Airplane, they like fucking Scream, like every

1124
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: movie that they highlight in there is so directly connected

1125
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 2: to the plot of the show and the kind of

1126
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 2: incredible queerness in like Horror and John Ricinema. It's just

1127
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 2: really fun. So in the wilderness, Misty absolutely flops it

1128
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 2: like it's all been leading to this. She was obsessed

1129
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 2: with the video, but you know what, she's traumatized. Yeah,

1130
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 2: she actually is traumatized. I wrote up a great interview

1131
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,880
Speaker 2: that my ed air Amelia did at IGN. I wrote

1132
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,240
Speaker 2: up a huge piece breaking down this episode, and Samantha says,

1133
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 2: like this is really one of the first times that

1134
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 2: you see Misty as a human, like she is legitimately

1135
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 2: traumatized about what happened to Crystal, even though it was

1136
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:45,320
Speaker 2: absolutely her fault. Just want to say that. So Misty

1137
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: runs away, akil Asta delivered the baby, and Natalie tries

1138
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 2: to bring in Coach Ben. At this point, I'm ready

1139
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 2: for them to eat Coach Ben, because he is truly useless.

1140
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,280
Speaker 2: I think they're doing a very good, interesting character arc

1141
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 2: of like the adult failing and adult basically disassociating and

1142
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: not being able to tap into that feral nature that

1143
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:06,720
Speaker 2: the girls can do. But Natalie tries to bring in

1144
00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: Coach Ben, and he as useless as ever and goes

1145
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: back to his disassociation corner.

1146
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:12,640
Speaker 3: I think that's unfair to Coach Ben.

1147
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:16,960
Speaker 1: Not necessarily inaccurate, but maybe unfair to his particular situation.

1148
00:59:17,120 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: He is, of course concerned that one day he will

1149
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 1: be eaten.

1150
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 2: Okay, it is true. He did see the meat of

1151
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 2: a person, and he is a person, and he did

1152
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: not eat the person. So I do feel for him.

1153
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: But I do think there's a really they're doing something

1154
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,760
Speaker 2: really interesting here about the teenage girls are more open

1155
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: and flexible to this kind of horrific situation, whereas he

1156
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:38,360
Speaker 2: is stuck in this idyllic past. There's this great moment

1157
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 2: where all he wants to do is just play charades

1158
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,760
Speaker 2: and he's so scared and it's really really just brilliantly done.

1159
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: But also I needed him to help with this baby

1160
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 2: he didn't. Teenage girls are taking over Travis. Honestly another

1161
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 2: flop moment for me, but I get it. Like Travis

1162
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 2: decides the best thing to do is to grab a giant,

1163
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,320
Speaker 2: creepy skull don't know when I came from some kind

1164
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,680
Speaker 2: of treat creepy animals and commit a blood sacrifice. She's

1165
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 2: fully on team Lotty at this point. Shauna freaks the

1166
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: fuck out understandably, and it does as we will come

1167
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 2: see basically zero to materially help her labor a big

1168
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:16,680
Speaker 2: zero Big Zero also probably very deeply. This seems like

1169
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:20,360
Speaker 2: a Lotty and Travis like key memory here because she's

1170
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 2: like the wilderness recognizes your sacrifice and so do I

1171
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: and everyone's just looking at them like what is wrong

1172
01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 2: with you? Back in the future, Lotti is not doing

1173
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:32,480
Speaker 2: too well and I'm very I will ask you about this. Actually, Yeah,

1174
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 2: so we see her at the therapist, Yeah, who replaced

1175
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 2: her original therapist who's been treating her for years, and

1176
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 2: she starts talking about how she's worried that she's never

1177
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: been sick, and actually she's been right, and the wilderness

1178
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 2: is now sending the survivors back to her, the power

1179
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,200
Speaker 2: of that place. The therapist really doesn't seem to be

1180
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: questioning any of this. Do you think there's some kind

1181
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 2: of like nefarious I was a big fan of this

1182
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 2: therapist at the beginning, who wanted to kind of encourage

1183
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 2: Lotty to see the vision through and understand them and

1184
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,320
Speaker 2: not repress them. But when she was talking about this,

1185
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,720
Speaker 2: I was very interested in whether the therapist had a

1186
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 2: vested interest in my believing.

1187
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: That I feel the same way. And I'm also after

1188
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, what we see in this episode, which we're

1189
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: going to discuss soon, and what we've seen in other episodes.

1190
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: I'm also of I don't know how much to trust,

1191
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:25,080
Speaker 1: Like is this therapist even real?

1192
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 3: Like you know, like how much of this is.

1193
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: Accurate to what we're being presented, because I don't know

1194
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,640
Speaker 1: if that's even Is she talking to herself, is she

1195
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: talking to a real person?

1196
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 3: Is this happening in reality? I don't know.

1197
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 2: I agree, it feels weird. We're in distinct unreliable narrative territory,

1198
01:01:45,760 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 2: and so it's really interesting because she basically just does

1199
01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,440
Speaker 2: this speel where she's like, I believe that the god

1200
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 2: of the place, the wilderness, it was real, the power

1201
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: was real, and I think other people felt it, and

1202
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: that is why they're coming back. And classic weird Misty

1203
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 2: moment we get here at camp Goompime where she basically

1204
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: realizes she's like a celebrity because she knows Lottie and Natalie,

1205
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 2: so she's loving it. How sociopathic tendencies are coming out

1206
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: Kelly and Shawna. They head to the cop shop to

1207
01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 2: chat to Kevin and Detective Sarahcuse I would have said no,

1208
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 2: would have got a lawyer. Yes, they're feeling.

1209
01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: Never talk to the police without your lawyer, but honestly,

1210
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,600
Speaker 3: I get it. I can't get it.

1211
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 2: And they're feeling exceedingly smug about the situation there and

1212
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 2: the two detectives, especially Sarahcusa, who are what a punctuable face,

1213
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 2: while Jeff, in one of another classic Jeff moment, he

1214
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,280
Speaker 2: sits outside the police station just blaring fuck the police.

1215
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: Is a very very simple guy.

1216
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love him, really feeling that he wants a

1217
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: bang in tune, and he wants the furniture moving out

1218
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:55,560
Speaker 1: of the store exactly.

1219
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 3: That's all he wants. Happy, that's it.

1220
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 2: As sean A battles through in the past, Aquila realizes

1221
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,760
Speaker 2: that the placenta has been birthed before the baby was there.

1222
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 3: That seems bad.

1223
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:08,400
Speaker 2: It seems bad, and as we if you join our discord,

1224
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 2: there's lots of good medical insight in there about what

1225
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 2: went wrong here, voding very badly for Shana's child. Lotty

1226
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:17,720
Speaker 2: quickly realizes that things went wrong and actually does something

1227
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,240
Speaker 2: good and goes to Misty and says, look, Katy, yeah,

1228
01:03:20,240 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 2: what the fuck is going on here? But you need

1229
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,920
Speaker 2: to come back like you understand this stuff and we

1230
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,400
Speaker 2: need you. While Lotty and her crew creepily pledge allegiance

1231
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: to the wilderness, would rather they didn't do that, but sure,

1232
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:33,040
Speaker 2: Missy talks Shauna through her labor and she seems to

1233
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 2: have come back to the present, and after Shauna passes out,

1234
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 2: we get to meet her son. Very creepy, Lotty was right.

1235
01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:43,040
Speaker 2: She kept calling the baby a heat and all of

1236
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 2: her loving friends are around her. It's a rare moment

1237
01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 2: of happiness for the survivors in the bleakness of winter.

1238
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 2: I will also say very reminiscent moment. If you remember,

1239
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 2: after Jackie passed away in the snow, Shawna had a

1240
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: dream where she woke up and saw everyone looking happy

1241
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 2: and Jackie was there and all was well. So beware.

1242
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 2: As Van and Tye kind of snark their way through

1243
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,160
Speaker 2: the morning and the present day, Misty calls Tie and

1244
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: so finally Ty picks up and she's like, oh, by

1245
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: the way, Lotty's got a compound.

1246
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 3: You gotta check it out, you gotta check out.

1247
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,640
Speaker 2: She's like weirdos, but the food's delicious.

1248
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty crazy.

1249
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,040
Speaker 2: And because the reunion has to be a holistic one,

1250
01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:23,400
Speaker 2: Ty's like, well, I'm gonna call Shawna. Shawna doesn't pick

1251
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 2: up because she's in the fucking but Jeff is on

1252
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:29,520
Speaker 2: the phone and he's like, I'll take it.

1253
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,880
Speaker 3: I'll take this one of the funny. Yeah, she's in

1254
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 3: the bathroom. She you know how she is. She takes

1255
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 3: a really long and guys like jam.

1256
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 2: And Ty's like, okay, well, guess what. We're all on

1257
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 2: our way or already at lot is a wellness compound

1258
01:04:45,640 --> 01:04:48,720
Speaker 2: upstate and just thought Shawna should know seems like something

1259
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 2: she'd want to know, you know. Kevin and Saracuza go

1260
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 2: for good cop, Bad Cop, the former interviewing Kelli and

1261
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 2: trying to be kind and say I know your mom,

1262
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 2: and the latter trying to get Shanna to break Melanie Lynsky.

1263
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:02,000
Speaker 2: Melanie Lynsky's at a high level as she either finally

1264
01:05:02,120 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: kind of breaks or plays saracuse A beautifully. I actually

1265
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 2: think it's the former on a couple of watches, telling

1266
01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 2: him she never wanted to be a mom, she never

1267
01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 2: wanted to be married, and that she did have an affair.

1268
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 3: I believe this worked, but it really looks like it's

1269
01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: going Julie looks like.

1270
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna work, and she and then at the end

1271
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: she's like, I did have an affair, actually, and she

1272
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,600
Speaker 2: should have remembered Misty's cookie rule, which was basically shut

1273
01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 2: the fuck up and asked for a lawyer, because that

1274
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 2: will come back to buy her. In the other room,

1275
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:28,240
Speaker 2: Kelly is.

1276
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 3: Doing very well well. Cally is.

1277
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 1: She's an impression, absolutely emerging here, like a Lebron Jeames

1278
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: type performance coming out of nowhere.

1279
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:42,600
Speaker 3: We've been really hard on.

1280
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 2: Kelly this season. She's coming through. He's coming through, and

1281
01:05:46,320 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 2: she says to Kevin, She's like, you know what, maybe

1282
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:54,120
Speaker 2: Sarahcusa slept with me to get this information that he wanted.

1283
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:55,640
Speaker 2: Who's who are they gonna believe?

1284
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, who's Who's to say he didn't?

1285
01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:59,040
Speaker 2: Who's to say he didn't? I mean, and where's the

1286
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 2: line between what he did do and what what I'm

1287
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 2: saying he did? You know what, As we've said many times,

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Speaker 2: I just want to say again, feels like she wouldn't

1289
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 2: even need to do that because of the way he

1290
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,800
Speaker 2: got this information. But you know what, just to be sure.

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01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 2: It's really great because like Jeff and Seanna are having

1292
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 2: this huge kind of blow up in the car where

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01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,440
Speaker 2: Jeff's like, you're losing it. You're gonna fucking blow our

1294
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 2: lives up. I feel it. The chaos is coming. Jason

1295
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 2: was right on X ray vision. You want to just

1296
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: blow up your whole life? Yes, And Kelly gets into

1297
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 2: the car and she's like, Mom, I did exactly what

1298
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 2: you said and it went great.

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Speaker 1: I love when toxicity and the covering up of crimes

1300
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:33,920
Speaker 1: brings a family together.

1301
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:38,680
Speaker 2: It's so hot arming, it's so hot arming, and you know,

1302
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 2: guess what, Jeff's like, you need to leave because you're

1303
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 2: a fucking liability.

1304
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,000
Speaker 3: And it's really lucky.

1305
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 2: All your friends they're going see Lotti. No, she's not

1306
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,479
Speaker 2: in a mental institute anymore. She actually runs this really

1307
01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 2: creepy wellness place called Camp Green Pine, and everyone's there.

1308
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 3: So let me tell you, it's gonna give you nostalgic vibes.

1309
01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: It's gonna make you feel you're in the wilderness yet,

1310
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 2: which is just what you want. Speaking of the wilderness,

1311
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,560
Speaker 2: we get this great Sophie Nillies, who plays young Shauna,

1312
01:07:07,640 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 2: just absolutely delivers this episode. We get these early days

1313
01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:13,360
Speaker 2: of motherhood where Shauna struggles to bomb with her baby.

1314
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 2: He won't latch, she won't breastfeeds heartbreaking and the crying

1315
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: is driving everybody crazy.

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Speaker 3: Baby wanted to milk.

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Speaker 2: Baby wanted a milk, And you don't want to be

1318
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 2: in that cabin. You're already trying to survive the harsh

1319
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: winter and you hear a baby crying all the time.

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Speaker 1: Nobody wants to and not to mention, but they're starving.

1321
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,400
Speaker 1: You know, they haven't been eating a lot of people,

1322
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,680
Speaker 1: and so there just isn't Her body's just.

1323
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 2: Milk and you know it's been going badly for Shauna,

1324
01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: but it gets worse when Lottie takes him out of

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01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 2: the crib in the middle of the night and tries

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01:07:46,840 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 2: to breastfeed him and Seana is like, absolutely not. It's

1327
01:07:49,720 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: very ominous. And after that the next day, Seanna finally

1328
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 2: gets him to latch, after espousing how she just loves

1329
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 2: him and she never thought she wanted to be a mum,

1330
01:07:59,120 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 2: but she can just can't wait for all the things

1331
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,840
Speaker 2: he's gonna do and it's going to be so brilliant,

1332
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:07,760
Speaker 2: and he latches and she breastfeeds him and as she

1333
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 2: promises her son, like I love you so much, you'll

1334
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:12,520
Speaker 2: definitely be teering up. It's such a good moment, and

1335
01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 2: there's this great hope, and Natalie comes in and she's like,

1336
01:08:15,160 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 2: oh my god, he's breastfeeding and Seawanna's like, just let

1337
01:08:18,200 --> 01:08:20,040
Speaker 2: me do this by myself, like I need it. I

1338
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 2: need this moment. But as you know, good things don't

1339
01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: really last long in the world Yellow Jackets, so prepare yourself.

1340
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,839
Speaker 2: Van and Tire kind of having this funny argument outside

1341
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 2: Camp Green Pine and Van's like, I'm definitely not going

1342
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 2: in there, which is very interesting. Seeing us how she

1343
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,120
Speaker 2: reacts when she inevitably sees Lottie and they see Shawanna

1344
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 2: just roll up. I don't know how close that police

1345
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:44,599
Speaker 2: station was, but Shawna is there and she is driving

1346
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,360
Speaker 2: that red mini van into the camp. So Van's like,

1347
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:49,439
Speaker 2: fuck it, I'm going in. We're all here. It's happening.

1348
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: It's a Yellow Jacket's wilderness reunion. The adult women gather

1349
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 2: by the lake. While Van claims that she was planning

1350
01:08:57,040 --> 01:08:59,600
Speaker 2: to leave immediately, all of that changes because when she

1351
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:03,639
Speaker 2: sees Lotty and Lauren Ambrose sells this shit so hard.

1352
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 2: She is just like entranced, Like Lotty turns around and

1353
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,639
Speaker 2: Van's whole face just drops.

1354
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 1: It was really and the shot perfectly framed against like

1355
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: the woods, really good.

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01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:15,639
Speaker 3: It is good.

1357
01:09:15,760 --> 01:09:17,559
Speaker 2: I want to know what it means, like I need

1358
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: to know. As the camera kind of pans up and

1359
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 2: we get to see the whole compound, we see that

1360
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 2: the women are, of course standing in a giant version

1361
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:29,600
Speaker 2: of the creepy symbol from the forest. It seems like

1362
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 2: an ominous enough ending and it cuts to black and

1363
01:09:32,240 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 2: I know that a bud of mine, and I'm sure

1364
01:09:34,479 --> 01:09:36,200
Speaker 2: he was not the only one actually thought it was

1365
01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 2: the end of the episode because you get that big

1366
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 2: cliffhanger moment.

1367
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1368
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 2: No, Seuna wakes up, her baby is gone in the past.

1369
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:51,760
Speaker 2: The beautiful, tweaky, horrible crib that was made for them

1370
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:57,519
Speaker 2: is empty, and she enters the main living space of

1371
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 2: the cabin to find the that many viewers foresaw, including us.

1372
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 2: We wondered if it was going to happen, and the

1373
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 2: girls are feasting on the baby.

1374
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 3: I this was horrific, but I also knew it wasn't real. Things. Yeah,

1375
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 3: they shot it in a certain way that you and.

1376
01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:16,040
Speaker 2: There were people involved in it like Natalie who I

1377
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:19,160
Speaker 2: feel like there were moments where you knew and it

1378
01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 2: is horrible. It's gruesome. It's gory. I'm sure we got

1379
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,560
Speaker 2: a lot of yells out of people. I would have

1380
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 2: loved to have some funny reaction cams to that. But

1381
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:30,360
Speaker 2: when Shauna wakes up from the dream, we realized that

1382
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,240
Speaker 2: she has not none of what we saw was true.

1383
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,800
Speaker 2: She has been in the same position in labor that

1384
01:10:36,920 --> 01:10:41,240
Speaker 2: we've seen her before she passed out. She's laid out there,

1385
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 2: she's tired, she's sweaty, and instead of the smiling faces

1386
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: that she sees when we saw her wake up the

1387
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 2: first time. She sees that her friends are heartbroken because,

1388
01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:55,320
Speaker 2: as Ty and Misty tell her, the baby didn't survive.

1389
01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 3: Heartbreaking.

1390
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 2: It is one of the most farmer endings of like

1391
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:03,720
Speaker 2: any Presti show I've seen in a long time, and

1392
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 2: Sophie Ely sells it so hard where she cries and

1393
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: she says, why can't you hear him crying? And she

1394
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 2: just looks straight at the camera as they do a

1395
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 2: sidewipe and the screen cuts to black. It is like,

1396
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 2: I didn't want to rewatch it because it's so moving.

1397
01:11:18,360 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: Let me ask you this crazy theory for a crazy show,

1398
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:31,400
Speaker 3: a crazy show, mysterious figure, a mysterious person, Shawna's ghost son.

1399
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 2: Oh, I would love to see it, I think, I mean,

1400
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:38,160
Speaker 2: why not? I like this. He's alive and he's the

1401
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: he's the oldness, that kind of limbo space. I could

1402
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: definitely see that. I could also that would give you

1403
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 2: a very unique take on the final destination type situation.

1404
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 2: I also want to know who is Harvey's friend who

1405
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 2: looked after him in the forest. I think that could

1406
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:56,439
Speaker 2: be an antler queen. I paused Episode five so many

1407
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 2: times when I was writing a piece five G because

1408
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,360
Speaker 2: there is a moment in Natalie's vision where you see

1409
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,200
Speaker 2: that ant the Queen take the chainmail off. I haven't

1410
01:12:06,240 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 2: been able to see who it was, but I did

1411
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 2: think it looked kind of like Natalie, that kind of

1412
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 2: idea that it's all in them. But yeah, I love

1413
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:14,960
Speaker 2: that idea that it could be the spirit of Seana's baby, though.

1414
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: I do think in the interview at IGN the showrun

1415
01:12:19,000 --> 01:12:21,560
Speaker 2: has talked quite extensibly about just wanting that to be

1416
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: like a moment of realism, because really, let's be real,

1417
01:12:24,240 --> 01:12:25,519
Speaker 2: they were never going to be able to birth that

1418
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 2: baby in a safe way in that cabin Aquila, God

1419
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 2: bless her. She was literally like stroking a mouse while

1420
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 2: delivering the baby, like it was going to go badly.

1421
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: There was not a cleanliness or sense of you know,

1422
01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 2: urgency there. So I don't know, but I want to know.

1423
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:48,800
Speaker 2: I want to know what's going to happen because how

1424
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:51,400
Speaker 2: much longer? Right? Is this like a Twin Peaks type

1425
01:12:51,439 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: situation where they're going to be forced to give some

1426
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 2: kind of answer in a second season to keep people watching,

1427
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: or are we going to be like five seasons in

1428
01:12:59,240 --> 01:12:59,799
Speaker 2: like loss.

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: I think you have to listen. We're in the middle

1430
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:04,240
Speaker 1: of a writer's strike. To take us out of the

1431
01:13:04,280 --> 01:13:05,320
Speaker 1: fictional world for a minute.

1432
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,679
Speaker 2: Yellow Jackets did just go on strike after their first

1433
01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 2: day writing season three.

1434
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:11,080
Speaker 1: Nothing is promised in this world? Is there an even

1435
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 1: an official pickup for season three?

1436
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,200
Speaker 2: That had been official pickup and they just started working

1437
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: on the first they'd literally worked on like a morning

1438
01:13:19,240 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 2: before they went on strike.

1439
01:13:20,680 --> 01:13:24,760
Speaker 1: I think you gotta start bringing the plane down to

1440
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: a landing level, not all the way to ground level,

1441
01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 1: but like within sight.

1442
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:31,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, the little wheels are coming out.

1443
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:36,840
Speaker 1: Because or I guess you could just leave it, leave

1444
01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 1: it mysterious if if the real world and the strike

1445
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 1: and other things continue to intrude on the ability to

1446
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,120
Speaker 1: tell the story. But it feels like we got to.

1447
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:48,840
Speaker 3: We gotta come away from this season understanding what the

1448
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 3: f is going on?

1449
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a little bit more of the threat or

1450
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,720
Speaker 2: the and even if that turns out to be a

1451
01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:55,600
Speaker 2: red herring, we at least want a little bit of

1452
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 2: that us.

1453
01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes, up next, more Yellow Jackets in the nerd out.

1454
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:09,400
Speaker 2: In Today's not out, where you tell us what you

1455
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 2: love them, why, or a theory you're excited to share

1456
01:14:12,080 --> 01:14:14,879
Speaker 2: Chauncey shares a Yellow Jacket's theory very relevant.

1457
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: Chauncey talise right. Nat revealed she had a vision and

1458
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,640
Speaker 1: that there is a darkness inside all of them internally.

1459
01:14:23,720 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 1: This is true and perhaps might manifest itself externally. My

1460
01:14:27,160 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 1: theory is that they all discovered the only way to

1461
01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: rid themselves of it, the darkness, is to become a

1462
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: team again. They are all varying levels of miserable part

1463
01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 1: and their full power can only be realized when they're together.

1464
01:14:38,120 --> 01:14:41,559
Speaker 1: I believe that this is true, whether what exactly how

1465
01:14:41,640 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: it mechanism is, I completely.

1466
01:14:44,680 --> 01:14:47,800
Speaker 2: Agree, and I think that that ties in very well

1467
01:14:47,880 --> 01:14:49,600
Speaker 2: to what we saw in episode six where for the

1468
01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 2: first time they're all back together get together. I'm a

1469
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,280
Speaker 2: campy person, so I would really love if it meant

1470
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,040
Speaker 2: like they had to play like a football game together

1471
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:00,280
Speaker 2: against evil, But I don't think that's what it's going

1472
01:15:00,360 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: to be. But I do think this idea of the

1473
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:07,200
Speaker 2: team coherence and the coming together and actually choosing to

1474
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:10,080
Speaker 2: be a group again and finding that community is going

1475
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:12,519
Speaker 2: to be integral to defeating whatever they brought back with them.

1476
01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,080
Speaker 2: Thanks Chauncey. If you have theories or passions you want

1477
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,559
Speaker 2: to share, hit us up x Ray at cricket dot

1478
01:15:19,640 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 2: com instructions in the show notes.

1479
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 3: That's it for us, Rosie, any plugs, I'm.

1480
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:28,920
Speaker 2: Plugging the WGA, I'm doing it. We're talking about TV baby,

1481
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:34,759
Speaker 2: look at that WJA. Captain. Support those writers, share their posts.

1482
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 2: If you can't make it out to the strike pickets,

1483
01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:40,919
Speaker 2: then share the posts on social media. Support the Entertainment

1484
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 2: Community Fund, which we will link to in the show notes.

1485
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: And yeah, just spread the word. My friend Taniko made

1486
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:50,600
Speaker 2: some really cool digital signs that you can make to

1487
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,280
Speaker 2: share on your social media. There's all kinds of great ways.

1488
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:55,280
Speaker 2: And if you are in New York or LA, think

1489
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 2: about showing up to a picket or sending some food,

1490
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 2: sending some supplies. It's a good way in your time.

1491
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 3: That's wonderful.

1492
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,920
Speaker 1: Catch the next episode on Friday, May twelfth, which will

1493
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: be a mailbag episode. So mail your questions to x

1494
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 1: rayat crockad dot com. We'd love to hear from you,

1495
01:16:13,840 --> 01:16:16,960
Speaker 1: or you can tweet to at xrvpods. Let us know

1496
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:19,600
Speaker 1: what's on your mind. We can't wait to talk to

1497
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: you and answer those questions that we get. Can't wait

1498
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:24,920
Speaker 1: to record that upisode.

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Speaker 2: In that there was some really great Yellowjackets conversation, kind

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Speaker 2: of understanding what probably happened with Shanna and the baby.

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Speaker 2: Just really insightful, good stuff.

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Speaker 3: Five star ratings, five star reviews. FI we need them.

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Speaker 1: We gotta have them, You gotta give them to us.

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Speaker 1: Here's one from Jeff Ashy ten ten no no. X

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Speaker 1: ray Vision is recurring bright spot in my week. Jason

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Speaker 1: and Rosi have amazing chemistry and their show movie recaps

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Speaker 1: have me laughing throughout. I almost enjoy the recap more

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Speaker 1: than the content being recapped.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production. The show

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Speaker 1: is produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin and executive

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Speaker 1: produced by.

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Speaker 3: Me Jason Concepcion. Our editing its sound design is by

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Speaker 3: Hysillis Ptopoulos. Video production by Delon Villanueva and Rachel Gaieski.

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Speaker 1: Social Media by Awa Oklati and Caroline Dunfie.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to Brian Basquez for our theme today, See

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