1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: How's that? Speaking of that? Now, how's the coaching? How 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: are you liking the coaching stuff? How's the transition been 3 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: going into coaching? Now? 4 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 2: It's been good for me because, you know, to be honest, 5 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 2: in the beginning, I was coaching, but I was more. 6 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 3: I was more of a vet. You know, they was 7 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: just listening to me. I was. 8 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: I was going through stuff, helping guys, working with them. 9 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 2: And now you know, I'm more of a coach now, 10 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:20,439 Speaker 2: but in the beginning, but. 11 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 3: It was it helped me. 12 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 2: Helped me just have a bridge to get to coaching 13 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: because I was like in between, like what do I 14 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 2: want to do? So, you know, I was thankful for 15 00:00:29,320 --> 00:00:32,239 Speaker 2: getting played development. Now I'm an assistant coach and you 16 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 2: know it works. Dudes, listen to me. You know, we've 17 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: been through it. It's like you did you on the bench, 18 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 2: They listen. They listen to you. When you've been through 19 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 2: some stuff, you can say something to them. It's a 20 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 2: little different. It hits a little different. 21 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: What do you what do you think? You know, like 22 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: you said and you touched on it. I think it's 23 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: very true. We talk about on the ogs a lot. Really, 24 00:00:47,720 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: it's like it's it's a lot easier to be in 25 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: your position as a player, as a former player because 26 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 1: they trust and listen to what you're saying. You're not 27 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: asking to do anything you didn't do yourself, So talk 28 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: about how that's kind of going, and what your what 29 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: your goals are, and this whole thing. To be a 30 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: head coach, what what you looking at trying to do? 31 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, you know if you're don't do anything, 32 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: you want to get to the top. So of course 33 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 3: a head coach's always to go. 34 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 2: But yeah, like I said, for me, it was a 35 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: little easier because transferring from a player to a coach, 36 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 2: you know those the guys listen to you. 37 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: You So it's been good so far. You know, I 38 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 3: got I have my guys. 39 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 2: I started with like Naji Marshall, he got paid with 40 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 2: the man man. 41 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 3: I like Marshall. I'm happy. 42 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 2: Like you know, when you start with a kid, you 43 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 2: try to develop them and then they get paid. 44 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: That's what you did your job. 45 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 2: And then my other you know, my boy, Trey Murphy, 46 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: he your man. 47 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 4: He spent a lot of time down here in Miami, 48 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: so you. 49 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: Know, just coaching, you know, getting them boys right. 50 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 2: It's been great and I'm just trying to learn because 51 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: Willie Green, you know, he was former player too, you know, 52 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: just learning from him. 53 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 3: You know, it's been great. 54 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: Murph was down here working out at Florida Christian and 55 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: I was in there. My son work out down there, 56 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 4: and I'm connected with those guys down there, so he 57 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 4: works out down there when he's in the city. And 58 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 4: I was down there one day and I ended up 59 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 4: playing defense on them and just guarding. He said that 60 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 4: the same thing you do, like, man, this same ship 61 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 4: Corey be doing or something like that. So it's just 62 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 4: just guarding them. But I ain't play no offense. It 63 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: was if I get a stop, then I get a point, 64 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, going around the spiring spot, 65 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 4: and I let him play offense all the time. That 66 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 4: sounds terrible, Yeah, it's terrible. I want Yeah, but he said, 67 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 4: that's the same thing some of the stuff that you 68 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,240 Speaker 4: guys do, man. But you know enough for me, you know, 69 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 4: I Mercy a good kid, man, So I share those 70 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 4: same things that you share when you see your guys 71 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 4: get paid. You know what I'm saying, that's instant gratification, man, 72 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 4: for sure. 73 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 3: You know it means a lot. 74 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's been good, just learning from learning. Learning, 75 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 2: learning is what it's all about. 76 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: The coach. You gotta learn do you do? You do? 77 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 3: You do? You do? 78 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 4: You find that as a player, and as you venture 79 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: into that coaching side of things that you had to 80 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 4: understand that balance because you can't expect these guys to 81 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 4: think like you or take things the way you take things. Also, 82 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: it's like it's a little bit you gotta leave these 83 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 4: young fellas with love. Like as far as being aggressive, 84 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 4: direct and animated, I don't think they responded that. 85 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: You gotta be a little different. 86 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, you got like you said earlier, like Billy, you 87 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 2: gotta learn your guys, And I kind of got that 88 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 2: from Billy, Like I don't talk to my guys all 89 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: the same. 90 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: I talked to them different. 91 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,119 Speaker 2: Actually, you gotta talk to all of them the way 92 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: what they will understand, How would they understand it, how 93 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,079 Speaker 2: you're going to say it? And yeah, it's not like us, 94 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 2: you know, we're all school. Yeah that I'm like, all right, cool, 95 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go do my job these guys more. 96 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: You gotta leave a little more love. 97 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what That's really what I wanted to get into. 98 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: I wanted you to talk about the differences of how 99 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: you were coached and how these guys are coached. Now, 100 00:03:49,080 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, just the difference. 101 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 3: Is not good or bad. 102 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 4: We ain't saying it's good or bad because at the 103 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 4: end of the day, the gold is the wind the gold. 104 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,800 Speaker 3: It's not good or bad. It's just it's just different. Yea. 105 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 3: I never I never said we're different. Generator for me. 106 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: When I was getting coached, I was getting cussed out, 107 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 2: like I called everything but my own name. 108 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 3: He got called up my own name. 109 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 2: That's it's fine, which was fine because I'm like that motivated. 110 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 2: Actually I'm getting caused out. I'm like, all right, cool, 111 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 2: he curious in my mind, like coach cared about me. 112 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 2: If he's cussing me out, if coach ain't saying nothing 113 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:18,919 Speaker 2: to me, you don't care about me. I'm kind of like, 114 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 2: hold on, I just messed up. You gotta say something 115 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 2: like you messed up, You say something now, it's more 116 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: you more, you explained it a little more. Like hey man, y'all, fellow, 117 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 2: you know you can't miss that right here. If you 118 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: missed that blackout, you know we ain't gonna win this game. 119 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,360 Speaker 3: You know. That's that's your that's your rotation. You got. 120 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,039 Speaker 3: You gotta have this rotation. If you want to play, 121 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 3: you're gonna make the rotation. 122 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 2: You know, you said with a little more love instead 123 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: of that, you asked to make the rotation. 124 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,919 Speaker 3: Come on, sit over here with me. 125 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's how it used to be. But 126 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: I'm happy you pointed that out because that's how you 127 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 4: lose them. That you can lose a kid, you can 128 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:53,800 Speaker 4: lose a player, make that rotation. Come sit over here, 129 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 4: and then the next thing, you know, you lost. He 130 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 4: lost for the day, he lost for that game, he 131 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 4: lost for practice. That's counter productive. That ain't the goal 132 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 4: they had to go. 133 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,320 Speaker 3: It goes to win every game. Yeah you got. You 134 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: gotta know. I talked to you guys. 135 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 2: Some guys you can't yell. It's some guys who you 136 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: know that mom and dad yelled them their whole life. 137 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 2: So if you're not yelling at them, they don't understand. 138 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah I was. 139 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 4: I was one of those guys. 140 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 3: Yeah me too. 141 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 2: I'm yelling at me like that'd being nice. I ain't 142 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 2: gonna get the point across, bru. 143 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: Let me ask you about one of one of your 144 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: guys down there, Zion. Obviously a lot of people like 145 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: to talk about him, but you're in the trenches with him, 146 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: you get to see him every day. You know, for 147 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people to talk about him, I think 148 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: it's unfair unless you know what he's actually going through 149 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: where he's been, So talk about him, and I mean, 150 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: he's a special talent, man, So talk about where he's 151 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: at and what you guys, Yes, super talent. Talk about 152 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: him a little bit. 153 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: The kid's amazing, man. 154 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 2: I think if you've been watching the Pelicans lately falling 155 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: right now, Yes, he's balling. And I think for him, 156 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: he was. He was a kid you had to grow 157 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 2: up like he's growing up. You know, he's figuring out 158 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 2: what it takes to be a pro. Yes, and that's everybody. 159 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 2: I don't I feel like, you know, they wanted him 160 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 2: to be something so quick. It was a little tough 161 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: on the kid. A lot of pressure, you know, number 162 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: one pick, there's a lot of pressure on him. But 163 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 2: now I think he's learned. It's been a leaf long enough. 164 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: Now he knows this is what I have to do. 165 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: I'm taking care of my body. I'm doing the right things. 166 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: And you know, he wants to be great, so he's 167 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:19,239 Speaker 2: gonna be great. 168 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 3: Man. 169 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 4: Talk about you talked about we talked about Zion, but 170 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 4: I'm gonna talk about one of my favorite players, Jose Alvarado. 171 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,400 Speaker 4: That's one of my favorite players. 172 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: Bro. 173 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: He don't give a damn win. He don't give a 174 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 4: damn who, He don't give a damn well. He want 175 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 4: all the smoke like, he gonna bring it. He's going 176 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 4: to compete at the highest level. He's gonna talk his 177 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,599 Speaker 4: ship here on back down from nobody. He got enough 178 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 4: heart for everybody. He's one of my favorite players. But 179 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 4: just talking about favorite guys too. Yeah, talk about it. 180 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 2: Amazing man, because you know he goes from being on 181 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 2: a two way contract to being on the standard contract. 182 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 2: Just gotta deal this year and that's all all what 183 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 2: he did. Just work his butt off and no matter 184 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: who's out there, he's gonna go hard. He's gonna be 185 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: hisself and he's gonna go out there and he's gonna perform. 186 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 3: And that's what he does. And you need a guy 187 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 3: like that, the energy he brings no matter what the 188 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 3: score is. You know he's on the court. 189 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 4: And I know you appreciate a guy like that. Because 190 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 4: that's how you play the game. Oh for sure, the 191 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: energy and effort that you played with, even even as 192 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 4: a high draft pick, like you ain't forget your roots. 193 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 4: You ain't forget what made you good. I'll tell people 194 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: this all the time. A lot of times guys get 195 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 4: to the NBA and they stop doing what got him 196 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 4: there because they want to add other ship. No, keep 197 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 4: doing the same ship and just add to it. 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