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Speaker 3: Welcome back to the Ogs of Playmaker, original prevented by

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Speaker 3: Draft Kings, and we have a very special guest in

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Speaker 3: this is a very special opportunity for us. He built

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Speaker 1: Gentlemen, thank you, my man. It's a pleasure to be

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Speaker 3: So, I mean, we got a lot to cover, So

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Speaker 3: this is very exciting for me. I very rarely have

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Speaker 1: You know what's funny is I think about that a

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Speaker 1: I respected it. I've seen kids change their last names.

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Speaker 1: That's what drives me. That's why I am not silent

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Speaker 3: I want to rewind because you talked about, you know,

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Speaker 1: Because I'm a brother, it's got something to do with it.

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Speaker 4: Florida Panthers are plus two thirty two win the Stanley Cup.

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Speaker 3: You got damn right. We got a hell of a

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Speaker 3: God damn right, you got damn right. I'm going with

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Speaker 3: was down to last and came back. And I was

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Speaker 3: sitting in the t at studios because you know, I

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Speaker 3: got seventy nine jobs, and these guys was doing the

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Speaker 3: hockey and I don't know about hockey, but I just

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Speaker 3: asked them, do you think my Florida Panthers got a chance?

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Speaker 3: And they told me no. Ooh, if iired you up

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Speaker 3: in the car, grind my he really grinds my went

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Speaker 3: so I went immediately to the sports betting app. It

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Speaker 3: doubled down DraftKings. We are coming for it.

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Speaker 4: There's a potential of making money right now. Ud just

445
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Speaker 4: told you he doesn't know about it. I'm riding with you.

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Speaker 3: Dog.

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Speaker 4: You sold me. I ain't gonna watch it, and I'm

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Speaker 4: a hockey savant.

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Speaker 3: Bob Bob, Bob right got to draft gigs, code O

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Speaker 3: GS and.

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Speaker 4: Code O gs man. And that's how you thank.

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Speaker 2: Us it or cut it out, good luck.

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Speaker 4: We'll talk to you later.

454
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Speaker 3: Just talk about how you visualize, you know, YouTube being

455
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Speaker 3: that outlet to build and grow.

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and three and taking a step back,

457
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Speaker 1: my dad at a local liquor store. He lived his

458
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Speaker 1: American dream, had nothing, saved every dollar. I already told

459
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Speaker 1: you my family didn't buy anything so we could save, save, save,

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Speaker 1: and then eventually my dad bought a small liquor store

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Speaker 1: in Springfield, New Jersey. Immigrant life, you know, I was fourteen.

462
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Speaker 1: I started working their stocking shelves you see, at the

463
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Speaker 1: gas stations, like immigrants, built a nice business for himself,

464
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Speaker 1: got to live support our family with that. I came

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Speaker 1: in and I knew, you know, I knew like I

466
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Speaker 1: like talking to athletes because I love sports so much.

467
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Speaker 1: But I wasn't gifted physically that way, but mentally I

468
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Speaker 1: was gifted that way, and I knew. And when I

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Speaker 1: say I knew, I knew at fourteen fifteen. And this

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Speaker 1: is before you're in the same general age group as me.

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Speaker 1: You know this, business men weren't cool like that. That

472
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Speaker 1: wasn't a cultural thing. Rappers, athletes, but being a businessman

473
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Speaker 1: that'd be like fine, But it wasn't like cool like

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Speaker 1: it is now. But I knew that I was going

475
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Speaker 1: to be world class at business at that age. I

476
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Speaker 1: knew it. And I grew up real immigrant. What I

477
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Speaker 1: mean by that is immigrant kids really understand this more

478
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Speaker 1: than hood kids. Immigrant kids understand you do it for

479
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Speaker 1: your family. It's not even about you. So I grew

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Speaker 1: up where I was like, my mom's the best of

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Speaker 1: all time. She's just done so right by me. My

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Speaker 1: father's worked his face off. I haven't even seen him

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Speaker 1: like that. Bro. My father and I slept in the

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Speaker 1: same house every night for the first fourteen years of

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Speaker 1: my life. I got six to ten memories of him

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Speaker 1: from zero to fourteen. He woke up and left for

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Speaker 1: work before I woke up, and he came home from

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Speaker 1: work after I went to sleep. Seven days a week seven.

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Speaker 1: So I had this crazy guilt and gratitude that I

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Speaker 1: wanted to do right by them. So I decided, like decided.

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Speaker 1: I remember calling my mom crying, crying when I was eighteen.

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Speaker 1: I was a grown boy, being like, Mom, I know

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Speaker 1: that I'm destined for bigh, but first, I'm going to

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Speaker 1: really build this business for dad. Like I was like,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna give up my twenties, yeah, and build

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Speaker 1: this business because I think I can and I want

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Speaker 1: to give back to my family. So that's what I did.

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Speaker 1: In nineteen ninety six nineteen ninety seven, I launched one

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Speaker 1: of the first e commerce wine businesses in America, winelibrary

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Speaker 1: dot com. The Internet wast That'd be like me telling

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Speaker 1: you all, let's build AI robots and have them sells

502
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Speaker 1: on Mars right now. That's how crazy the Internet was

503
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Speaker 1: in ninety six seven, because it hadn't existed yet, yes,

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Speaker 1: and so like people were just like, what is that? Even?

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Speaker 1: I did that From nineteen ninety eight to two thousand

506
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Speaker 1: and three, I ran the business. In those five years,

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Speaker 1: the business went from three million a year to forty

508
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Speaker 1: five million a year, completely changed my parent's life. I

509
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Speaker 1: bought my car at sixteen. I bought it at a

510
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Speaker 1: garage sale with my money for five hundred eighty dollars.

511
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Speaker 1: That is the first car I had.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 1: My brother's eleven years younger than me. He got a

514
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Speaker 1: brand new Lexus on his seventeenth birthday. That's how much

515
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Speaker 1: our life changed in that decade. In two thousand and three,

516
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Speaker 1: I'm cooking and I'm like really building, and I go

517
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Speaker 1: to my computer guy as I called him. He was

518
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Speaker 1: a developer. I go, yo, I want to make videos

519
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Speaker 1: and put him on the internet. How do I do that?

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Speaker 1: He's like, we have to host them, this and that.

521
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Speaker 1: So he did the work. He came into my office

522
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Speaker 1: like a day later, he's like, here's how much it

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Speaker 1: would call. I don't want to make this up because

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Speaker 1: I want to keep it real, but I'll give you

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Speaker 1: what it felt like. He said some like if an

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Speaker 1: hour is watched on our website, it's gonna cost us

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Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars to host those videos. It was something

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Speaker 1: I could not afford no matter what. So that was it.

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Speaker 1: It just got put in a side. I want to

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Speaker 1: give him his flowers. His name is Eric Castner with

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Speaker 1: a K. He was my lead developer. Two years later,

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Speaker 1: I'm working on some we sat closer than you and

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Speaker 1: I are sitting. That's how small the office close closer

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Speaker 1: than you and I are sitting right now. We sat.

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Speaker 1: He taps me. He goes, check out this site. It

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Speaker 1: was YouTube. I go on it. I'm like, what is this?

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Speaker 1: He goes, you remember the video thing? I was like, yeah,

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00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: he goes on this site. We can upload it and

539
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,960
Speaker 1: we can host it on the website and it'll cost free.

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Speaker 1: They're taking on the costs. I'm like bet. The next

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Speaker 1: day I call my brother. I'm like, this thing's gonna

542
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Speaker 1: be crazy. He's a freshman in college. I'm like, you

543
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,479
Speaker 1: need to start a video show about the Jets. So

544
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Speaker 1: he started. This is a fun fact, Stefund. You might

545
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Speaker 1: not even know this. My brother AJ was actually the

546
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Speaker 1: first blogger. He did like seven or eight episodes of

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Speaker 1: Jets TV. He did some video, but it's not what

548
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Speaker 1: he yeah, horspect, but he didn't want to be about

549
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Speaker 1: that world. He was more into like the business side.

550
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Speaker 1: So he was done pretty quick, and I kept looking

551
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Speaker 1: at YouTube. It was getting bigger, but it was all pirated.

552
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Speaker 1: In its first year. It was like South Park Clips,

553
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Speaker 1: Family guy clips. Nobody was making original videos. Then there

554
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Speaker 1: was this guy named Zay Frank Ze Space Frank. He

555
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Speaker 1: was making videos. There was another show called Rocket Boom.

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Speaker 1: I was like, there's something, This is going to be something.

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Speaker 1: So I on February twenty first, two thousand and six,

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Speaker 1: less than nine months after less than nine months after

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Speaker 1: YouTube came out, I made my first video of wine.

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Speaker 1: Library TV changed the course of my career. Wow, I knew.

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Speaker 1: I wrote a book a couple of years later called

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Speaker 1: Crush It my first book. Yes, if you were to

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Speaker 1: read it today, it's crazy. I wrote that book in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. It came out in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and nine. I book sixteen years old. Basically, I completely

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Speaker 1: predicted content creators, influencers making money on the Internet, and

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Speaker 1: at the time it came out, it did extremely well,

568
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:24,720
Speaker 1: but critics panned it for being not realistic. One one

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Speaker 1: news outlet said, this guy's such a snake oil salesman.

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Speaker 1: He's trying to tell you that people are going to

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Speaker 1: make one hundred thousand a year on YouTube. Lol. Lol,

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Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's crazy. And so yeah, YouTube video. I

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Speaker 1: always knew that. You know, video was going to win.

574
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Speaker 1: Video always wins, and I knew it would just be

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Speaker 1: a matter of time before it was real on the

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Speaker 1: internet back in the early two thousands and YouTube came.

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Speaker 3: So as you go from wy media to venture capital

578
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: and different things like that, what's the bridge?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 3: What was the bridge?

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Speaker 1: The bridge? Was that actual moment? Nine months later or

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Speaker 1: within that year, YouTube sells for two billion dollars two

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Speaker 1: billion in two thousand and.

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Speaker 3: Seven, after you posted your first video.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, about a year later. I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: the timing wrong. Somewhere quick. I think it was the

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Speaker 1: next year YouTube sales to Google for two point one billion. Again,

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Speaker 1: I want the kids that are listening right now to

589
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Speaker 1: understand two point one billion in oh seven, I would argue,

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Speaker 1: would be like a one hundred billion, maybe even five

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Speaker 1: hundred billion dollar deal. Today, numbers were different. We didn't

592
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Speaker 1: print all that money during COVID. The world was different.

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Speaker 1: Everyone shook. I read an article in the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 1: and in there it's the first time I'd ever seen

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Speaker 1: the term. It was writing the article of YouTube this

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Speaker 1: incredible exit, and then it said angel investor Ron Conway

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Speaker 1: is set to make xyz amount of money on his

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Speaker 1: one hundred thousand or I don't remember the number, fifty

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars angel investment. I was listening, so I went

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Speaker 1: to Google. I typed an angel investment. I read it,

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Speaker 1: and I remember because it was one of those moments

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Speaker 1: that you'll always remember in your life. I remember I

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Speaker 1: had the big ass computer screen and I'm reading it,

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Speaker 1: and you know how you can see your reflection in

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Speaker 1: your screen with the right lighting. I remember reading it

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Speaker 1: and then I looked in the screen and looked at myself,

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Speaker 1: and I said, you're going to be an angel investor.

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Speaker 1: And I promised myself because at that point, when YouTube

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Speaker 1: sold like that, I was like, man, I got some

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Speaker 1: sort of gift and I'm not making paper on it yet.

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Speaker 1: I was write about email, I was right about the web,

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00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: I was right about Google AdWords, and now I'm right

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Speaker 1: about YouTube. I'm good at seeing. I said, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to promise myself the next time I feel that, I'm

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00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 1: gonna angel invest because I had a little bit of savings.

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Speaker 1: About six months later, I had that feeling. I saw

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Speaker 1: a new startup and I was like, this is it.

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Speaker 1: And I wrote my first angel check and that was Twitter.

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Speaker 3: So just for the people at home, Angel invest is when.

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Speaker 1: You're investing early, you're the angels. You're you're basically the

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Speaker 1: first money's in before there's institutional venture capital money. You're

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Speaker 1: the fifteen hundred thousand dollars smaller checks just to get

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Speaker 1: someone off the ground. Later they'll go for a series

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Speaker 1: A of venture capital round.

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Speaker 3: So that question, it's high.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen Facebook, Twitter, I really really won. There

627
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,959
Speaker 1: was others who you know, Uber I really lost and

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00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: really won Snapchat. There was a lot of wins and

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Speaker 1: but ninety eight percent were losses. Like, don't get excited

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00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 1: about angel investing if you don't have paper like that,

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Speaker 1: like ninety eight percent or loss.

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Speaker 3: I'll tak people understand that.

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Speaker 1: That's why do you think I'm taking the You know

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Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, the reason it works is when

635
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: you hit, you hit. You know, when you're making three

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Speaker 1: thousand times your investment back, you can lose a lot.

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Speaker 1: So but it is I wouldn't call it gambling. I

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00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: would call it extremely high risk investing. My last point

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Speaker 1: on this and will bounce. I'd still do angel investing,

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Speaker 1: but now I only invest if I like both the

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Speaker 1: jockey and the horse. Oh I used to do it

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Speaker 1: if I like the horse the horse that called the idea.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if I liked.

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Speaker 1: The idea back in six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

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Speaker 1: probably into thirteen, I would investka. The mistake I was

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Speaker 1: making was I didn't realize I would look at something

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Speaker 1: and be like, oh, I know what to do with this.

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Speaker 1: I'll build it big. But when you're putting money and

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Speaker 1: you're not in control. Now I got to like the

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Speaker 1: jockey too. I need to like her or him. I'm like,

651
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: does she have the stomach for it? Now I'm analyzing

652
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: the person because I got caught on all those Harvard kids,

653
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: all those Ivy League's kids came with good ideas, but

654
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 1: they got fed. They got to Harvard because Grandpa made

655
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 1: a donation. They got to Harvard because they're a great student.

656
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: But being a great and it doesn't mean you're a

657
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 1: great entrepreneur. So I had to learn those lessons in

658
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,040
Speaker 1: my thirties and forties.

659
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: Great point. Great point. I asked about the uber because

660
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: it was like, because I do my research, so obviously

661
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 3: I do my research. When you came on, it's conflicting stores,

662
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 3: you lost you one.

663
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: Likes, it's not conflicting. I lost in one in my

664
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,919
Speaker 1: first book. I just mentioned crush It. It's your first book.

665
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: You're acknowledging the most people in your life in the

666
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: first page. The only people I acknowledge is my family.

667
00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: And then one random ass dude, Travis Kalkanik, who was

668
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: the co founder and CEO of Uber. Travis was in

669
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,399
Speaker 1: between companies when I wrote crush It, and I sent

670
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: him a early copy and he really helped me with

671
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: it because he was just chilling. He invested. He actually

672
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: Garrett Camp, the founder of a company called stumble Upon,

673
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: is actually the gentleman that came up with the idea

674
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: of Uber was originally called uber Cab. I was actually

675
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: in the room in Paris when he literally pitched the

676
00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: idea for the first time. Wow, Garrett was involved. They

677
00:35:00,600 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: were looking for a CEO. It was a side project.

678
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: This is real talk, YEP. Two entrepreneurs that already made

679
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 1: it had an idea. They went out and found a

680
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: third guy, Ryan Graves, a hustler kid, to run it

681
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,000
Speaker 1: because it was a side project because they were doing others.

682
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: It started off real strong in San Francisco. Travis came

683
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 1: in and decided to be the CEO because he saw

684
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: it was going to be big he asked me to invest.

685
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: You know why I love this eel so much? Why

686
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: because it confirms one of my favorite sayings in life.

687
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: Scared money don't make money.

688
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: They say that everywhere. They say that in the business

689
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: offices with the CEOs and in the hood at the

690
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 3: dice game. Bro say that everywhere.

691
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: Bro, This moment is my watershed statue of liberty. In

692
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: a career that spans thirty forty years. If you'd count

693
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: my kid Hustle, the amount of times I played scare

694
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: money was almost zero because I came from nothing, so

695
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: I was never scared to go back.

696
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 3: I agree, I know that mentality.

697
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: But I bought my first big boy apartment in New

698
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: York and I had no liquid. I just bought it.

699
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna have my second child, and I had

700
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 1: no paper. I had a little bit, you know that

701
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 1: immigrant a little bit, you know, like I gotta have

702
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand of cash, you know, like I was not.

703
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: I was not with paper. So when when Travis came

704
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: and said I want you to invest in Uber, I

705
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: was like, I was like, I'm gonna have to pass

706
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,479
Speaker 1: to his credit, which is why I love him so much.

707
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:46,279
Speaker 1: He came back because we were boys. He came back three,

708
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: four or five weeks later. It's like, bro, I was

709
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: in San Francisco for a talk. I was in that

710
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: grassy knoll. Every time I passed it by, I'm like

711
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: that spot. He's like, please be in. I was like,

712
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: I just can't. I said no. Twice. If I had

713
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: written the normal fifty thousand dollars check that I was

714
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: writing back then twenty five to fifty, you're talking about three, four, five,

715
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: six hundred million now. So I pass about a year

716
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 1: and a half later or a year later, they were

717
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: in their next series, a like instead of I would

718
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:21,279
Speaker 1: have gotten in at like a four or eight. I

719
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: don't remember the number, under ten million dollar valuation. About

720
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: a year and a half later I did invest. It

721
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: might have been at one hundred million or eighty million

722
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: or one hundred and twenty million. And I did well.

723
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 1: I mean I made millions and millions of dollars when

724
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: it went IPO on one hundred thousand dollars investment. But

725
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: you know if yeah, I mean like, I'm grateful that

726
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: I have a career that I can sit and talk

727
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,479
Speaker 1: about moments where I passed on a twice that would

728
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 1: have resulted in you know, a half a billion dollars

729
00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: in paper and to me, like, on the other side,

730
00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: look and all your reactions. I've been telling a story

731
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 1: for a decade. I know how people react. I react too.

732
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: But you know, it's like, you know this as an athlete,

733
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: when you're in the arena, it's just next play. It's

734
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: just like you know, you can hear the proud booin'.

735
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: You know, you can hear the announcers takes, you can

736
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: see the hot takes on you know, on the shows

737
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 1: and the radio. But like, what am I to do?

738
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: Cry and in a weird way, and I think people

739
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,399
Speaker 1: that get it will really get it. On the other

740
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: side of this podcast, I'm happy it didn't happen, not

741
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: because I would have been any less hungry. It would

742
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: have changed the complete foundation of my life. And I

743
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: think in the butterfly fact, I'm like, like, not to

744
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: make me feel better, but because of how I live.

745
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that would have happened, but then this

746
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,839
Speaker 1: would have happened. This like I'm in a world where

747
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: I sit here today, healthy and happy. I'm like, who knows,

748
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: I might have had to go to Tokyo for a

749
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,680
Speaker 1: business meeting because of that, and maybe I wasn't paying

750
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 1: attention crossing the streen got hit by a car. Like, yeah,

751
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: I think for people to cry about spilled milk if

752
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,800
Speaker 1: they're in a decent spot, it's crazy because every little

753
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: subtle decision changes the outquotic come of your life. And

754
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's a super l I love it because

755
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: it's on a thesis I believe in, you know, and

756
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:24,359
Speaker 1: so I like losing on some truth, you know, And

757
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: that's that.

758
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 3: I'm with you. I can't miss what I never had.

759
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 3: That's how I mean. If I never had it, it

760
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:32,640
Speaker 3: wasn't mine. I never had it, so I can't miss it.

761
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 3: But you said, you go with your gut and these things.

762
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 3: But you have Facebook, you have snapchats, you have coin base,

763
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 3: you have all these different things.

764
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: My gut's good.

765
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 3: I was just gonna say, I had your guts amazing,

766
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,919
Speaker 3: But how are you identifying these things? Are? Crystal ball?

767
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: Is all this coming to you? Because I like to

768
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 3: stay up till like three am when everybody's sleep, and

769
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: that's when I come up with my crazy ideas. That's

770
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 3: when I call my business man and Selvest and wake

771
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: him up, and I'm like Sevester. I got it.

772
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: Let me bring up something that that. It was funny

773
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:04,919
Speaker 1: you just brought up Sylvester because when you just said

774
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: I call him at three am makes me think about

775
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: how I talk to Mike Boyd, who's my music plug.

776
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: What I do for a living in real life is

777
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: I watch culture, not just the culture Black culture, which

778
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,720
Speaker 1: is obviously the foundation of pop culture, but every culture,

779
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: white boy culture, Korean girl culture, k pop culture, europe culture,

780
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: absa culture. What I try to do where I think

781
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,800
Speaker 1: all the secrets are is by knowing everything. I mean everything.

782
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: So I had something to go viral recently, you know doci. Yes,

783
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: so I discovered dotsch super early. In fact, during COVID,

784
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 1: I Adochi on Zoom with all thousand of my employees

785
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: at the time. And in that video I said to her,

786
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: I think you're going to be I'm a superstar. And

787
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 1: for some reason my brain said and in fact, in

788
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: forty four or forty two, some weird number, forty four,

789
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 1: forty two months the whole world's gonna know my guy,

790
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: literally forty two or forty four whatever number I said.

791
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: Months later, she did the Grammy performance that blew her up. Wow,

792
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 1: Dochi and Facebook are the same to me. When I

793
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: see something that makes sense to me that the world

794
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,880
Speaker 1: is gonna like it. The cronut, that little weird stuffed

795
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: animal that all the girls are rocking right now. Yeah,

796
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: bagging pants instead of type like fashion, this brand, Segaman Stables,

797
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 1: kiss from Afar, Palace from Afar, a music act, a

798
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: new restaurant, a fashion trend or a startup. It's all

799
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: the same to me. It's just almost like the Matrix.

800
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 1: It's like one and zeros, and my whole body just

801
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: knows that America is gonna with this. And then that's

802
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: when I start digging. So I'm out there just reading, watching, listening,

803
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 1: you know, And I got people Mike Boys like yo,

804
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 1: this new Rigaton artists. I really think he's gonna be

805
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: about that. I'll go and listen to it, and if

806
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: I get the goosebumps, then I know we need to

807
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 1: like go. Like I look at my DMS. I hit

808
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,759
Speaker 1: up Bad Bunny in twenty sixteen, I'm like, you got it,

809
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: like I see it. And of course I'm wrong sometimes

810
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: but not often because because I am definitely not the

811
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: I say public, because who wants to be wrong? So

812
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: I'm like you that midnight, one, two, three in the morning.

813
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: I don't know. Once or twice a week, I'll just

814
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 1: get into my zone and I'll be like, what are

815
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: all the euro drughead kids into right now? And I'll

816
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: just go watch Or I'll be like, what are all

817
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: the Hispanic skateboarder kids and Antonio right now that are

818
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: like half into Wemby but half into skateboard culture? Like

819
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,120
Speaker 1: what are they with? Or like what are the Hampton's girls?

820
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: Like what what drinks are? Like? Is it gonna be

821
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 1: a Sprits this year or is it gonna be Rose.

822
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:17,360
Speaker 1: I'm just curious as but with intent. Yes, I'm not

823
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: curious for the sake of being curious. I'm curious because

824
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: I'm trying to make paper. I'm trying to build an empire,

825
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,919
Speaker 1: and so I'm curious because I know in that curiosity

826
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: I will unlock and then you just get into patterns,

827
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: and you get into patterns. Why do I know Facebook

828
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,000
Speaker 1: was gonna work? Because I watched Friends stor happen six

829
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 1: years earlier. I already knew social networks were coming. We

830
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: just lived through my space. Tila Tequila was the most

831
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,360
Speaker 1: famous girl in the world for a few seconds. Wow,

832
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 1: So I just knew it was coming. And then you

833
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,320
Speaker 1: look at Zucks and I was like, this guy's different.

834
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 3: He is different. He is different. I have no problems

835
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 3: with that. I mean, obviously, you know, if you have

836
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 3: advice for obviously guys myself or any guy that looks

837
00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 3: to bridge that gap, obviously, what would you say.

838
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,799
Speaker 1: Mix up your circles, get more like what I like

839
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: about the modern athlete, and you your generation is the

840
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: first one. And now the kids. You know this. You

841
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 1: see the eighteen year olds, they're all so much more

842
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 1: savvy than you guys were coming up. Yes, and they

843
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: have you all to think your crew, your crew, truly

844
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: your draft class, the three before you, the three after.

845
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:34,479
Speaker 1: There was a maturity in your generation of not doing

846
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,799
Speaker 1: the same dumb that all the athletes before you came.

847
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 1: The money was bigger, yes, but the discipline was better. Yes,

848
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: it was just different. I watched it, I lived watching it.

849
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: The thing that I recommend to people, whether they are

850
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: athletes or business people, are just watching y'all need to

851
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: hang out with more different people.

852
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:57,239
Speaker 3: Great, you know what I mean?

853
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: Like, how do you learn? You spend time with you?

854
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: When I like, if I want to learn more about

855
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 1: contemporary art, like you need to hang out with Rashid Johnson.

856
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,759
Speaker 1: That's like what like and obviously I have access, but

857
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: like whatever it is, like, go hang out with people

858
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: that know. Yes, go hang out with people that know

859
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: like the like when I want to know what's going

860
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: on with stuff, I spend time with people that know,

861
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: and I try to stay curious and you try to

862
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 1: mix up your circle. Here's another one. I'm very focused

863
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 1: on giving people flowers, like one of the things that

864
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 1: we do not do well out of some old school pride.

865
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 1: You say, and someone's doing good doesn't make you lesser

866
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: than Yes, doesn't mean your lazer. It means you're a

867
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: nice human being. Given flowers to somebody to mat with

868
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: you people, so one of you know, especially for someone

869
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: like you, somebody out there with status. All the athletes

870
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: that watch this, you DM someone you admire and be

871
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: like yo with your doesn't make you lesser than what

872
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,920
Speaker 1: it normally leads to, especially if you're an athlete. Athletes

873
00:45:56,960 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: need to know this. I'm forty nine years old. I

874
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: still feel thirteen when I watched it that this next series,

875
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: like if Josh Hart walked in here right now, I

876
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 1: faint even though I know Josh like that. I'm in

877
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: that place right now. Every athlete can reach out to

878
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: any of the biggest business people in the world, scientists, cooks,

879
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,279
Speaker 1: actors and just be like, you know, you watch a

880
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 1: Netflix movie and you like, you like that and you

881
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: want to learn more about Hollywood and acting. DM the

882
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 1: actor will be like, yo, your performance was fresh, like

883
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,360
Speaker 1: you know, like people don't get it. Like dm is

884
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: are not just there to slide in and have some

885
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: you know, laate call booty action. It's there to business develop,

886
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,160
Speaker 1: It's there to learn. Like we have. The access we

887
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 1: have to people today is insanity. Yes, Like nothing makes

888
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: me happier than to randomly DM somebody and be like, bro,

889
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: that was a good game, Like good keep moving. People

890
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: are happy to get compliments. It's a nice gesture. So

891
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 1: what do I think expanding circles?

892
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 3: I mean, my OGI to reputation that I have as

893
00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:03,759
Speaker 3: a OG has partly been built off DM because a

894
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 3: lot of these guys around the league, they don't know

895
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: me personally, but they can DM me. I've had so

896
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: many young guys in the NBA shoot me a DM

897
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: and just asked me questions on how to deal with

898
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 3: certain things and just life, basketball, business, so many different things,

899
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 3: so much that that has been huge. I want to

900
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: ask you about the Knicks please right now. This is

901
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 3: a great time for you guys, great time for the organization,

902
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 3: great time for the city.

903
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: And we almost burned down the city after a second

904
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: round victory.

905
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,919
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I'm telling you outside. I mean, what's

906
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,880
Speaker 3: what's talk to me? How you guys feeling right now?

907
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 3: How's the city feeling? What's going on?

908
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 1: Is it?

909
00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,879
Speaker 3: Why is it such a big deal right now?

910
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: So fun is to talk you have won championship. Like

911
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: when I told my son yesterday that I was coming

912
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: to do this podcast with you, he's twelve. He's like,

913
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:49,480
Speaker 1: tell him he's a bitch.

914
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 3: Because I picked it, because I picked the other team

915
00:47:53,560 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 3: to go. I guess today, No.

916
00:47:54,760 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: Not even that, because my son's real educated like that.

917
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: He knows you're an all time Miami Heat and we

918
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 1: have to hate you.

919
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:01,800
Speaker 3: Yes, this is true.

920
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: This is how I built you.

921
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,240
Speaker 3: This is true.

922
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: And he's part of that generation that talked. I was like,

923
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: you know, he's gonna punch you in his mouth when

924
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: he sees you. Now atsanner. You know this because you

925
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: were here winning championships, and you know what's been going

926
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 1: on in New York for the last twenty five years,

927
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:26,080
Speaker 1: the Knicks. I got a great way to explain this

928
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: to everybody. When I was fifteen, I was no, not true.

929
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: I was driving when I was seventeen. The number one

930
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: is pre internet. The number one thing diehard sports fans

931
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: loved in the New York Tri state area back in

932
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: the day pre internet was Mike and the mad Dog

933
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: on drivetime radio. That was the biggest show. Every show

934
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: down here. That's big all it came from Mike and

935
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: mad Dog. In the eighties. Mike and mad Dog was

936
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,000
Speaker 1: the first wfan, was the first twenty four hour sports

937
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 1: station in the world. Mike and mad Dog was the

938
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: number one show. Mike Francessa and Matt Doug Chris Russo

939
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: they were everything to us. Look at you see him right,

940
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:07,360
Speaker 1: you see my Goose boys. They were everything to me.

941
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: Like I would sit in my parents' car, my mom's

942
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: car after school to listen to them. I don't know

943
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,160
Speaker 1: why I didn't figure out to get a radio in the house,

944
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 1: but one day for I don't remember, maybe ninety I'll

945
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 1: tell you actually actually now. I remember the Knicks beat

946
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: the Bulls in a second round playoff game, I think

947
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: in ninety one, and game one, Ewing went off the

948
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: Bulls that just won their first title. We thought we're

949
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: gonna lose four games to none, and we stole game one,

950
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: and and it was just like next day in school

951
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:45,160
Speaker 1: as a party, and Mike Francessa said something that I

952
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:47,880
Speaker 1: to this day have never forgotten. He said, New York,

953
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: he goes, we got the Giants, we got the New

954
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:56,480
Speaker 1: York Yankees, we got the New York Giants, he goes.

955
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: But let there be no confusion. New York is an Knickstown.

956
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 1: And it caught me. And then the Knicks had that

957
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: whole ninety two, ninety three and ninety four was the

958
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,840
Speaker 1: summer of everything when Katie and Kyrie went to Brooklyn

959
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: and we got Randall, and I remember nobody gave a

960
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,840
Speaker 1: about what Brooklyn was doing, and Knicks got into the

961
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 1: playoffs and the city lost its mind. I remembered that

962
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: story of fifteen twenty years ago, Mike frances Is saying,

963
00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 1: New York is a Knicks town, not a Yankees town,

964
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 1: not a Giant's town. And I think what America is

965
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:44,479
Speaker 1: seeing right now is that New York is a Knicks town,

966
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: Madison Square gardens in the middle of the city, basketball

967
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: mecca of the world. And I feel as though Nick

968
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: fans are so hungry. It's been such a long drought

969
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: and we want it so bad. And this team is

970
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: also a Knicks throwback team. Carmelo's teams, Amari j are

971
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: they we loved them. There was hump, We loved those teams.

972
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: You guys battle with them a little bit. But this team,

973
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 1: it's a different gritty like you know, Josh, are you

974
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 1: kidding me? Yeah? And so this is the right kind

975
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:30,240
Speaker 1: of team. My generation is now in their late forties

976
00:51:30,360 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: early fifties, Like I play pick up basketball still to

977
00:51:34,640 --> 00:51:38,839
Speaker 1: this day. Like I'm like, I'm Anthony Mason. I foull

978
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: on I found on every rip is right, like I

979
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,880
Speaker 1: found I fell on every play, no easy baskets stuff on,

980
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 1: you know, like it's and that's this team and we're

981
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 1: just we're besides ourselfs And to knock out Boston. Yes,

982
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,040
Speaker 1: do you know how much New York hates Boston when

983
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 1: it comes to sports? Makes sense that once a Mutch,

984
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:02,879
Speaker 1: they've they've earned it, They've earned it. Kudos to them,

985
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: and now out of with all this to make the

986
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals, to make it Indiana, you know, besides

987
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:16,959
Speaker 1: y'all and Chicago, but Chicago's been also irrelevant for so long.

988
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: That's Miami, Chicago, Boston and Indiana for Nick fans. Is

989
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: that kind of like four four And then you look

990
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 1: on what gets crazy is on the other side, if

991
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: God willing, God blessed, they can get to the finals,

992
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: you're either going to have o k C, which is

993
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: going to have their former center that we loved heartside,

994
00:52:40,719 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: or if it's Minnesota.

995
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:47,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Julius.

996
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 1: A different Evencenzo who we I mean when I tell

997
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,399
Speaker 1: you our hearts got ripped out in that trade, even

998
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,360
Speaker 1: though we were thrilled and knew what we were getting

999
00:52:53,360 --> 00:53:01,759
Speaker 1: with Kat. New York is out of its mind right now.

1000
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 1: It's on full tilt. You could feel it everywhere. And

1001
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: these next couple of weeks are just going to be crazy.

1002
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 1: And I'm happy for the NBA because when the Knicks

1003
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 1: are cooking, it's good for basketball.

1004
00:53:15,480 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 3: Nick.

1005
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: I I still think, you know, look, it's dep Willis

1006
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: Walt Ewing Bernard. I don't he's not there yet. And

1007
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: then You've got the role players to Butcher and Bill

1008
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 1: Bradley and Phil Jackson, and then you got Melt and

1009
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:37,480
Speaker 1: then you got that last group, the Mellow, you know crew,

1010
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: and Mellow's right there. I think people, I think Brunson

1011
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: getting to the finals.

1012
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:43,640
Speaker 3: Will do it if he wins.

1013
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: If he wins, yes, I was, I talked. I was

1014
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: with Kat personally. I said, Kat, you have no idea

1015
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: what happens in this town if you win a champion Oh,

1016
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: I'm like Victor Cruz walks around like he's a this

1017
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 1: is true god. Is like he was a very good player.

1018
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: John Starks walks around New York as a god and

1019
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: he didn't win a title. We just got to the finals.

1020
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 1: If this crew wins, it's there's something different about It's. Look,

1021
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: New York is easily arguably the most important city in

1022
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 1: the entire world. Do you know how crazy is in

1023
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:33,799
Speaker 1: the entire world?

1024
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 4: It?

1025
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 1: Maybe, I would argue definitely is. But empathetic to people

1026
00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: that want to talk about Shanghai or some other places.

1027
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: I have no idea. London, fine, but like New York

1028
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: City is the most important city in the world. You

1029
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 1: win a championship for the sport that is most in

1030
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: the blood of that city that has not won one

1031
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: in fifty years that statue. And I don't mean like

1032
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,080
Speaker 1: the statues they do in sports. I'm talking like a

1033
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 1: actual monument that has nothing to do with at Madison's

1034
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: coure guard. I think the city will burn to the

1035
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: ground if the Knicks can win this.

1036
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 3: Wow. Wow, it's almost hard to even go to the

1037
00:55:10,320 --> 00:55:12,799
Speaker 3: Jets after that. We got we gotta go. I gotta

1038
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,479
Speaker 3: ask you about the Jets, talk about it. I'm a fan.

1039
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 3: I had a chance to I had a chance to

1040
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: go to the Chicago Bears training camp. I had a

1041
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 3: chance to watch Justin Fields up close, in and on

1042
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 3: in practice, on the practice field, in the in the

1043
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,560
Speaker 3: QB meetings, locked in with the coaching staff. I got

1044
00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,319
Speaker 3: a chance to go behind the scenes and watch the kid.

1045
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 3: And I believe that the ceiling for Justin Fields his

1046
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 3: best version. Not too many quarterbacks can go to that ceilings.

1047
00:55:37,040 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 3: What he can do athletically with his legs, his arm strength. Yeah,

1048
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 3: you gotta work on accuracy, but you also talk about

1049
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,400
Speaker 3: a kid who had three or four different QB coaches

1050
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:46,759
Speaker 3: since he's been an elite. So I really think that

1051
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 3: you got something there just for me to you, and

1052
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 3: I don't. I can't give it about the Jets, but

1053
00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 3: I gotta be honest, I think you got something to

1054
00:55:53,239 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 3: work with with Justin Fields.

1055
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,600
Speaker 1: To start, It's funny you bring that up. So I

1056
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:03,359
Speaker 1: love the Knicks. You can't imagine I would give up

1057
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 1: a Knicks championship for life if you promised me a

1058
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: Jets super Bowl. Oh it's like that. Really yep, Jets one.

1059
00:56:13,880 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 3: I wouldn't guess that this way. We just came off

1060
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 3: that next conversation.

1061
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,279
Speaker 1: I love the Knicks, like in a way that's probably inappropriate.

1062
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,919
Speaker 1: But that's why I'm trying to tell you. The Jets

1063
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 1: is pure religion. It's my religion. So I've not missed

1064
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 1: the play of a Jets game since nineteen eighty two.

1065
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:31,880
Speaker 1: I've watched every single play.

1066
00:56:32,560 --> 00:56:33,400
Speaker 3: That's a lot of pain.

1067
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: So it's a lot of pain. So the thing with Fields,

1068
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: my Jets thread is like we could it's very educated,

1069
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: it's very deep, it's very emotional. My crews were locked in.

1070
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:51,360
Speaker 1: We all prayed to God for Justin Fields because it

1071
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 1: was the only one situation this offseason that has the

1072
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: potential to be what you're talking about. Don't forget we

1073
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: also so drafted Darnold and we've you know, and Gino

1074
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 1: South Florida and by the way, your third string quarterback

1075
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: this year. Like I'm still I'm still not done with

1076
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: Zach Willson either, you know, so Justin was the only

1077
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 1: upside ticket play. Obviously, him and Garrett Wilson have real chemistry.

1078
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: They're real boys. They went out and got the center

1079
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: from the Packers who went to a house state as well.

1080
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: They're like building that whole crew. I back to being

1081
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 1: who I am as a Jets fan. Know a lot

1082
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: about Aaron Glenn. My brother is an NFL agent. We

1083
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: rep Aiden Hutchinson, a leam badgely Shane. We repped seven

1084
00:57:44,040 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 1: Jalen Reeves. Maybe we've repped seven Lions in the last

1085
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: several years. We have an incredible read on Aaron Glenn

1086
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: the coach. He's a real man. He was a hell

1087
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: of a dB. Only Joey Galloway got him. Joey Galloway

1088
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: was a big beast. We know who Aaron is as

1089
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 1: a coach. I believe there's a shot with this, and

1090
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm glad that our expectations are down. We still have

1091
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: crazy young talent Sauce, Garrett Breeze, Jermaine Johnson, we got McDonald,

1092
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: we got we got a real we got pieces. So

1093
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see. I'm optimistic. This almost feels like

1094
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: the year they'll make the playoffs in a world where

1095
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: no one thinks they will. Yeah, but Justin will have

1096
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: to take the jump for that to be true.

1097
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 3: I believe he will. I believe he will. We're in

1098
00:58:32,240 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 3: the middle. We now, were in the middle of the

1099
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 3: Subway series. So Yankees.

1100
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: I grew up a huge Yankee fan, but then they

1101
00:58:39,320 --> 00:58:41,959
Speaker 1: won in ninety six, and like I told you, I,

1102
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 1: once the championship comes, it changes my whole paradigm shift

1103
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: with my fandom. So I actually, because my son has

1104
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,880
Speaker 1: a younger cousin and an older cousin that's six months

1105
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: younger and older boys. When he was born, I decided

1106
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 1: to raise him a Mets fan because I knew they

1107
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: were gonna be diehard Met fans, and I'd kind of

1108
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:10,880
Speaker 1: scratched my Yankee itch. So these days I root for

1109
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: the Mets through the proxy of Xander. But you know

1110
00:59:14,680 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: what's crazy about fandom. Last night, when the Yankees won

1111
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: the rubber game of the series, I'd be lying to

1112
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: you if I wasn't happy because deep down I'm still

1113
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 1: a Yankees fan. Really yeah, but I but my son,

1114
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: I really wanted for him. I'm happy that the Mets,

1115
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:34,600
Speaker 1: the Mets franchise is heading in the right direction its ownership,

1116
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: baseball ownership, because it's business. It's not like the NBA

1117
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: and the NFL where there's caps and triggers. Actually, let

1118
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: me ask you question, do you believe we actually are

1119
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: entering the era of parody in the NBA? Or do

1120
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:55,560
Speaker 1: you think that this is a potential short little blimp

1121
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: before we'll see super teams kind of run the next

1122
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 1: decade or two a parody? Why?

1123
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:02,840
Speaker 3: I really do think we entered the era of parody.

1124
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 3: I think the talent is getting better. I think it's

1125
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,439
Speaker 3: getting harder to put together super teams. Get it's double yeah,

1126
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: because of the money and the taxes and all these

1127
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 3: different things right now. We were just on ESPN the

1128
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 3: other day and we were talking about putting together super teams,

1129
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 3: and the conversation was talking about where Jannis would go,

1130
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 3: and a lot of people were saying a lot of

1131
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 3: these different teams and Brian Windhurst, who's amazing with those

1132
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: different things, Windy. We had a conversation about certain teams

1133
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:29,360
Speaker 3: having three players. And back in the day when I

1134
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 3: was able to do it with the Miami Heat and

1135
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,040
Speaker 3: we had Lebron, Chris Bosh and d Wade, and they

1136
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:34,680
Speaker 3: were still able to find a way to sign myself

1137
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 3: in different guys. Those situations aren't happening anymore. It's just

1138
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 3: not within the rules and different things like that. It's

1139
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,520
Speaker 3: just not capable happening now. If you're able to get

1140
01:00:42,560 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 3: two or three superstars, you're going to go into the

1141
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,760
Speaker 3: luxury tax so high that is it gonna be worth it.

1142
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,240
Speaker 3: You gotta win in the next couple of years, or

1143
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:50,240
Speaker 3: if you don't, it's not worth it. And then obviously

1144
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,200
Speaker 3: then you got to figure out a way to put

1145
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 3: ten to eleven role players willing to make minimum money

1146
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: around three max guys, which we were able to do

1147
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 3: that when I was playing. None of these guys are

1148
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,600
Speaker 3: willing to do that anymore. Everybody wants to make their money.

1149
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 3: So I just don't think financially you can do it

1150
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: anymore to put together a super team. But I think

1151
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 3: the parody is really growing because as we see the

1152
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 3: shift of the older guys, we see the shift of

1153
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,200
Speaker 3: the Lebron James Is, we see the shift of the

1154
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 3: Stephan Curry's, we see the shift of you know, these

1155
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 3: different guys, and then we see the small market teams

1156
01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 3: like the SGAs and the OKC. We start to see

1157
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 3: the Minnesota's and the different teams like that rise. So

1158
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: now we're seeing that shift of the Lakers, and you know,

1159
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 3: unfortunately the heat you know what we call large market

1160
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:33,120
Speaker 3: teams declining just a little. And then we're seeing the

1161
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: growth of the smaller market teams. And these are the

1162
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 3: teams that are going to the finals. Right now, We're

1163
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 3: looking at the team where obviously the Knicks are a

1164
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 3: huge market team, but we talked about Indiana could possibly

1165
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 3: be in the finals, OKC in Minnesota. One of those

1166
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 3: teams are going to be in the finals. Those are

1167
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,320
Speaker 3: small market teams compared to the big market and large

1168
01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 3: market teams that we've seen in the past.

1169
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: You know, it's an incredibly exciting time for NBA fans

1170
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: because I mean I was very affected as a fan

1171
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,200
Speaker 1: by the super teams. It was a wrap before the

1172
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: season started. Yes, it was really hard to get going,

1173
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, it was you just kind of were like,

1174
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 1: what do we do with this.

1175
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 3: It's really a roll over the dice. If you look

1176
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 3: at what Phoenix did. They were able to put the

1177
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,439
Speaker 3: three superstars together. But now you're rolling the dice with

1178
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 3: what you put around it. And if it doesn't work,

1179
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 3: now you pigeonhole and you're stuck. And like, now I

1180
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 3: got to move somebody who cannot move.

1181
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 1: And you know what's what else has been interesting? You

1182
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:24,640
Speaker 1: know this way better than I do, so I'm asking

1183
01:02:24,640 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: you more than saying. But as the game has evolved,

1184
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:31,200
Speaker 1: all the other thing that's been interesting is the role

1185
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:35,960
Speaker 1: player's impact is fascinating with the three ball, right, Like

1186
01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:38,560
Speaker 1: I think about the players that like scare me. Like

1187
01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: when I was a kid, when Houser came in, I'd

1188
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: be like, dude, I don't give now. I'm like, this

1189
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 1: might have fourth reason two seconds and this might suck

1190
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 1: us up, Like you know, the three ball and a

1191
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,040
Speaker 1: lot of these role players, it just it feels different.

1192
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 3: So I'll tell you this about the role players. The

1193
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,200
Speaker 3: stars they get to shoot whatever shot they want. A

1194
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 3: role player, you most likely your role is the defense,

1195
01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 3: rebound or shoot threes one of the two MM. The stars,

1196
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: they say there's no mid range in the NBA. That's

1197
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 3: a fly. KD can shoot mid range, Lebron can shoot

1198
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 3: mid range, Luca can shoot mid range. Your role playing

1199
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 3: ass you better shoot them threes and you better defend.

1200
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 3: So that that is the role of most role players

1201
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: in the NBA. Most role players are three and D

1202
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 3: guys unless you're a lot big where you create that

1203
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 3: vertical spacing when you get a lob. You know what

1204
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 3: lobs do, They make everybody come in. Now you create

1205
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,080
Speaker 3: more spacing for the guys to shoot three. So everything

1206
01:03:34,160 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 3: is predicated on getting guys open shots and most of

1207
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 3: the time your role players. For you to get minutes,

1208
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 3: you're gonna have to be a floor spacer.

1209
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 1: Do you do you think that a rule change is

1210
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: needed or do you do you think do you believe

1211
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: the thesis people have that ratings are down because every

1212
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 1: team looks the same with the three ball, And if

1213
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: you do, do you have do you think a rule change?

1214
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,840
Speaker 1: Like my brother said something in our basketball thread when

1215
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: everyone was talking about this late winter last year early

1216
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 1: this year, and he threw out something that got a

1217
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,360
Speaker 1: lot of us cooking. He was like, what if they

1218
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: limited the number of threes that you could actually take?

1219
01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 1: And it was like really got us into real deep

1220
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: philosophical combo. But you know, what's your take on that?

1221
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,000
Speaker 1: Do you think the ratings softening was that or you

1222
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:18,760
Speaker 1: think it was something else? And then number two, if

1223
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: you do think there's a little bit to that.

1224
01:04:20,600 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 3: Think I think a little bit of that and also

1225
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 3: a little bit of guys just not playing. Yeah, you know,

1226
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 3: you know when you show up or when you cut

1227
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,440
Speaker 3: your TV on you expecting the CD Superstars and a

1228
01:04:29,480 --> 01:04:30,720
Speaker 3: lot of the times, a lot of these guys are

1229
01:04:30,720 --> 01:04:32,760
Speaker 3: sitting out different games, and I think fans are getting

1230
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 3: tired of that. You know, you have a responsibility and

1231
01:04:34,560 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 3: accountability not just for the fans but for your team. First, yep,

1232
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,720
Speaker 3: you know we depend on you. You're our guy, We

1233
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 3: need you. And then secondly, the fans show up to

1234
01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 3: see you. So I think that's part of it. I think, yes,

1235
01:04:44,720 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 3: I think everybody doesn't have the personnel to shoot thirty

1236
01:04:47,080 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: forty threes. But I think for whatever reason, a lot

1237
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: of people, a lot of teams are shooting thirty and

1238
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,640
Speaker 3: forty threes. One I know is just to keep up

1239
01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: with other teams. You have teams that are built around

1240
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 3: the three point line. I mean the Boston Celtics broke

1241
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 3: the single season record for shooting threes. So if they're

1242
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:01,200
Speaker 3: making threes and you're making twos, your ass gonna get

1243
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,919
Speaker 3: beat by forty. So now that allows you to start

1244
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 3: forcing up threes. But what I will say is habits.

1245
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 3: I think you just need to start building those habits

1246
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 3: that needs to start in the summer and needs to

1247
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 3: go through training camp. You need to be building those

1248
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,360
Speaker 3: habits throughout the season. You can't wait till you get

1249
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,640
Speaker 3: to the playoffs to say, Okay, now we're gonna start

1250
01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: shooting thirty five forty threes when the regular season you've

1251
01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 3: been shooting around thirty. Now you want to wrap it

1252
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:21,760
Speaker 3: up for the playoffs because you want to try to

1253
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:23,280
Speaker 3: keep up with this team. Know, these are the habits

1254
01:05:23,320 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 3: that you've built over the years. Another thing I see

1255
01:05:26,720 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 3: is we're going back to the two bigs, and a

1256
01:05:28,720 --> 01:05:30,480
Speaker 3: lot of we got away from that for a while.

1257
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 3: We got away from the two bigs for a while,

1258
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: and that kind of hurt my career because once we

1259
01:05:33,760 --> 01:05:35,280
Speaker 3: got away from the two bigs, we were just playing

1260
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:37,960
Speaker 3: a center and your power forward was really just a

1261
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,440
Speaker 3: small forward that you put at power forward. So we

1262
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,360
Speaker 3: got away from that. So now we're seeing the trend

1263
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:43,520
Speaker 3: of the two bigs comes.

1264
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: Back now super meaningful for the next right now, Yeah,

1265
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 1: are both out there.

1266
01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 3: And listen, problem, you gotta give mitchal Robinson this credit?

1267
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: Where credits do man? I mean, make a free throw?

1268
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: Now?

1269
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 3: He has impacted the game of basketball, and it's playing

1270
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 3: winning basketball in the real he is playing winning basket.

1271
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, he obviously is going to probably have

1272
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,160
Speaker 1: a very interesting offseason at the free throw line. Has

1273
01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:03,840
Speaker 1: never been a good free throw shooter, but if he

1274
01:06:03,840 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 1: can rev it up just a little, his impact is enormous.

1275
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 3: Yes, and I'm a huge fan of Heartenstein. Crazy that

1276
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 3: you brought that up because I was a huge fan

1277
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 3: of his and I knew that was gonna be a

1278
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 3: tough loss for you guys, because that's a guy.

1279
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: I knew it ten games to him being a nick

1280
01:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, we don't have him locked up. He's gonna

1281
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: have a good year. You could tell, Yes, you could

1282
01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: tell two seconds in that he could play.

1283
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 3: Yes, I have one.

1284
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: He's a great kid too.

1285
01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 3: I have a question, an interesting question, because this is

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Speaker 3: something that I kind of feel the same way. Your

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Speaker 3: take on vacations I struggled. My vacation thing is weird

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Speaker 3: because I want to and I need them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, vacations.

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Speaker 3: First, tell me how you feel about the vacations.

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Speaker 1: At Vayner Media, my advertising agency, vayner X, the advertising

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01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: agency holding company, I have twenty five hundred employees all

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Speaker 1: over the globe. Hey, first answer to you on how

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Speaker 1: what do I think about vacations. I love them, but

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Speaker 1: I can only take them when the rest of the

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01:06:59,720 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 1: world to shut down. The only time I can actually

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Speaker 1: take vacations is the last couple of weeks of August

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01:07:05,880 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 1: when I know everybody else ain't working Thanksgiving week, you know, now,

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Speaker 1: it's like that Tuesday everyone starts to check out, Yes,

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01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: and Christmas and New Year's I can't even take a

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01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: vacation during normal times because it's not a vacation. It

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01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: becomes stress because when I come back, I'm just so

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01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: back the up. I'm stressed the whole time on vacation.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, honest, this isn't fun all up, because like

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01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: that's not my life. I'm number one. Vacations are great

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01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: if you're not the number one. Yes, vacations are awesome

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01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:40,280
Speaker 1: if you're not the number one. If I was a

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01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,400
Speaker 1: number two or three or four or five out of company,

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Speaker 1: I'd be on vacation in my whole life.

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Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So how do we deal with that?

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Speaker 1: I think you need to maximize when the world shut down.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I've never used to do this, but now

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01:07:52,240 --> 01:07:55,800
Speaker 1: I'm like Columbus Day, Martin Luther King Day, Like I'm

1314
01:07:55,920 --> 01:07:58,440
Speaker 1: you know, as I get into the next half century

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01:07:58,480 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 1: of my life and I want to spend more time

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Speaker 1: with my family, not less. I'm like, like I used to,

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01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: I used to work every Mlkdad quickly go to the

1318
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: Knicks game at one o'clock with take my boy. But

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01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,760
Speaker 1: you know, like Saint Patrick, like everything, like any federal

1320
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 1: holiday I worked now Juneteenth, like I'm like about everything.

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01:08:15,520 --> 01:08:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's make up some more. Like as long

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01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: as everybody else is off, I'm in. So I think

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01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: for you, if you're if you're on that same kick

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01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 1: as I am, you need to take vacations always. Now

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01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 1: you have TV obligation, you have obligations. I don't know

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01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 1: your all your obligations, but.

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Speaker 3: I could make my own schedule. Okay, play, I could

1328
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:35,320
Speaker 3: play with things you need to.

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Speaker 1: I promise you you'll enjoy them if everyone else is vacationing. Like,

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01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:43,240
Speaker 1: for example, this Friday is the Friday before as we're

1331
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Speaker 1: filming this, I don't know when you're putting this up,

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Speaker 1: but we have a Memorial Day coming up. On the

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01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: flight down here, was like, damn, cause I got work

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01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:52,280
Speaker 1: Friday even Saturday, unfortunately, but I was like, damn, I

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Speaker 1: this up. This would have been an opportunity. I could

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01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 1: have easily been done Thursday night and I could have

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01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: went till Tuesday morning and could have gotten vac Like

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01:08:59,720 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm still not trained to take advantage of it. Yeah, yeah,

1339
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: but I would have been chill because I know nobody's

1340
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:10,520
Speaker 1: working from Thursday night until Tuesday morning in the America,

1341
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:14,160
Speaker 1: and that makes me relaxed. And I think the reason

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01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:17,120
Speaker 1: you probably don't like vacations is you're not relaxed.

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Speaker 3: No, that's what I'm saying. I'm not relaxed, So that's

1344
01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:20,520
Speaker 3: not a vacation if it relaxed.

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01:09:20,800 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 1: Same, I think you need to take vacations when the

1346
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 1: world is shut down four day presidents say weekend, take

1347
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: that vacation like you've got to map it to the world.

1348
01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: That's the only thing that works for me.

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Speaker 3: Okay, just make it sure a semester hurt smart. It

1350
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Speaker 3: was a couple of other interesting things that I read

1351
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Speaker 3: because obviously I do my research. And you like garage sales. Yes,

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01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,799
Speaker 3: you like garage sales. Can we talk about the garage

1353
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 3: because you said earlier you bought your first car from

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Speaker 3: a garage sale. Even now to this day, you got

1355
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,200
Speaker 3: to this point in your life, you still like garage sales.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you why. I know a bunch of

1357
01:09:56,920 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: kids are listening right now and I'm talking about, like,

1358
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 1: here's what you should do for angel investing. Make sure

1359
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: you like the jockey and the horse twenty five thousand

1360
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 1: dollars listening right now is like you, Gary Vee, I

1361
01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: got seventeen dollars and nine cents in Wells Fargo. Do

1362
01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 1: you want from me?

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01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:12,640
Speaker 2: So?

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01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: Because I lived that life, I'm like, I'm never ever

1365
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,639
Speaker 1: gonna leave that kid behind. So I'm always gonna make content,

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01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 1: always talk to that kid. But I'm not gonna coddle

1367
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: that kid either. If you're watching right now and you're like, y'all,

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Speaker 1: I only got one hundred bucks, I'm like you, I

1369
01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: only had one hundred bucks too.

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Speaker 3: Your point.

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: Let me tell you what to do. If you have

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01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:38,160
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars, get your ass to the dollar store,

1373
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: get your ass to Craigslist, get your ass to the

1374
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: Goodwill and the Salvation Army. Go to the flea market,

1375
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:48,760
Speaker 1: go to the garage sales. Because the most guaranteed way

1376
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,080
Speaker 1: on Earth that I know to make one hundred dollars

1377
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: go to one thousand and one thousand, to go to

1378
01:10:54,120 --> 01:10:57,879
Speaker 1: ten thousand, is to go to yard sales, flea markets,

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01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,519
Speaker 1: five all the you know goodwill stores, buy for a

1380
01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 1: dollar or two and sell them on eBay for twenty

1381
01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:09,680
Speaker 1: It is one hundred percent. It's real. You can do

1382
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:11,679
Speaker 1: it with t shirts, you can do it with stuffed animals,

1383
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,639
Speaker 1: you can do it video games, toys, and all sorts

1384
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: of random. Literally, if you don't believe me, right now,

1385
01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,640
Speaker 1: open up your Instagram, go into the search type in

1386
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: yard sale Finds, fi nds, yard sale Finds, good Will Finds,

1387
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:34,680
Speaker 1: garage sale finds. And it is scary to me how

1388
01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,719
Speaker 1: real this is? Now? Every time I put out this content,

1389
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: someone's like, We'll leave a comment and say, do you

1390
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:42,760
Speaker 1: Gary Vee it costs twenty eight dollars in gas to

1391
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 1: go to these places. I'm like, no, stick. I know

1392
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,360
Speaker 1: the business expenses happen, but I'm gonna say it again.

1393
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,920
Speaker 1: When you buy thirty items at a dollar each and

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01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,679
Speaker 1: they're all one hundred and you make three hundred bucks,

1395
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,760
Speaker 1: and they're excuse me. You buy thirty items at a

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01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,320
Speaker 1: dollar and they're all ten bucks and you make three four,

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01:12:01,439 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: five hundred with eBay fees. People are like, what about

1398
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: the shipping? You charge the client for shipping, that's how

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01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: you sell it on eBay. What about the eBay fees?

1400
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: You pay the fees. What about the gas? You pay

1401
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:18,400
Speaker 1: the gas and you still left with two three hundred

1402
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: bucks on the weekend. Instead of the people that complain

1403
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 1: and don't want to do they spend two hundred dollars

1404
01:12:26,240 --> 01:12:28,880
Speaker 1: on a weekend buying thirty four dollars Margarita's.

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01:12:30,200 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 3: That's exactly what it is, instead of.

1406
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:34,360
Speaker 1: Waking up at seven am and going to make three hundred.

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01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,360
Speaker 1: That's just what it is. And let me talk to

1408
01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: all the guys out there for a minute, because because

1409
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: I really get a lot of DMS from them. All

1410
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,679
Speaker 1: of you right now are stressed and looking for get

1411
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:49,040
Speaker 1: rich quick schemes in your twenties to try to impress

1412
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,439
Speaker 1: the girls. Here's the good news. Put your head down

1413
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:55,519
Speaker 1: in your twenties and make paper. Those girls that you want,

1414
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,200
Speaker 1: they only want you at thirty five to begin with. Anyway.

1415
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:00,840
Speaker 1: Even if you got paper at twenty two, you're not

1416
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,719
Speaker 1: even in the game anyway. So you're just better off

1417
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,599
Speaker 1: getting your skills right, getting your paper right. Like. And

1418
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,679
Speaker 1: what the twenty two year old Dodo doesn't know about

1419
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: thirty five is at thirty five you feel the exact

1420
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 1: same way as you do at twenty two. Men, stay

1421
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,400
Speaker 1: boys for all you twenty three year olds right now.

1422
01:13:20,520 --> 01:13:22,280
Speaker 1: Let me promise you, when you're thirty two, you're gonna

1423
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,519
Speaker 1: feel the same exact way. You're gonna have all the

1424
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 1: same feelings, all the same drive. You're gonna be nice

1425
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,680
Speaker 1: and fine. People are just scared to work. Listen. As

1426
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,760
Speaker 1: much as I hated you as a Knicks fan, the

1427
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,920
Speaker 1: admiration was so off the charts because I was and

1428
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,160
Speaker 1: you were young, as my guys who were doing it

1429
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,559
Speaker 1: were getting old, you know, you know, as Oak and

1430
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,680
Speaker 1: Mace were getting old. You were young, and I was like,

1431
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,320
Speaker 1: they got one of those guys. Yeah, And I knew

1432
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: from day you know, and you know what it is,

1433
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 1: and you see it now right, That's what I want

1434
01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: these guys who are listening to do, Like it's work.

1435
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:01,480
Speaker 1: If if back to sports, if all you kids realized

1436
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: how many players, all these NBA guys grew up with,

1437
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:10,200
Speaker 1: that were dramatically more talented than them that never made

1438
01:14:10,240 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 1: the league. It was work. Take away the random injury.

1439
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:18,400
Speaker 1: It was this, It was mental and then it was

1440
01:14:18,479 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 1: actually putting in work. It's like everybody wants to use

1441
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:28,960
Speaker 1: the word luck. Oh you got lucky. Luck is the

1442
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,919
Speaker 1: weapon of choice of the lazy.

1443
01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 3: Luck is the weapon of choice of lazy.

1444
01:14:35,720 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: You understand?

1445
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:40,479
Speaker 3: Oh we got anybody right now? We got here?

1446
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,719
Speaker 1: Oh bro, if I my guy, if I had any

1447
01:14:43,840 --> 01:14:48,120
Speaker 1: musical talent, I'd be drake. I've got the bars. I

1448
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:53,800
Speaker 1: just don't have any but real talk like if if

1449
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 1: the kids especially, but when I see kids, I want

1450
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,600
Speaker 1: to make sure I defind this. I'm talking to the

1451
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,880
Speaker 1: twenty thirty and forty year old young men and women

1452
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 1: that are listening right now. If you're thirty six, you're

1453
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:08,320
Speaker 1: a child. I know you don't believe it because society's

1454
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: got you twisted, and I don't I know you don't

1455
01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: believe it because thirty six year old see like Timothy

1456
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: Shallaman like, well, he made it before he was thirty six,

1457
01:15:16,160 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: And I'm like, yes, Timothy made it before he was

1458
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,280
Speaker 1: thirty six, But there's eight billion people on earth like

1459
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,120
Speaker 1: you're you're still a child. People always want to compare

1460
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: those Zucks or like the kardash Why are we always

1461
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:31,839
Speaker 1: comparing in to the point oh oh oh oh oh

1462
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: oh one, Like I don't understand, Like that'd be like,

1463
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: like you want to be Geese at basketball, but you

1464
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: compare yourself to Lebron So you don't play basketball? What

1465
01:15:42,960 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 1: are we doing out here? So, yes, I understand other

1466
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 1: people made billions in their twenties and thirties talent, circumstance, serendipity.

1467
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: That has nothing to do with your life. And more importantly,

1468
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:58,040
Speaker 1: nobody's success in life is taking from yours, not one person.

1469
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: This is an actual sports where there's a winner and loser.

1470
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 1: This is life. Everyone could lose, everyone can win, And

1471
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 1: so I'm just trying to get people's feelings right.

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01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: But the fact that you said that in this I

1473
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 3: want to end with this because you me and you

1474
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 3: agree and we see things so the same way. There's

1475
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 3: a winner and a loser, and you got to get

1476
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:23,840
Speaker 3: so sick and tired of losing that winning is the

1477
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 3: only option. You don't believe in giving away wins to

1478
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 3: your kids, to your brother, You don't give who it is.

1479
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,720
Speaker 3: You don't believe in just letting them win and just

1480
01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,599
Speaker 3: building the habits of letting them think that they won,

1481
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,599
Speaker 3: or you giving away a win like speak because I listen,

1482
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:40,799
Speaker 3: I've been playing. Me and my son played today this weekend.

1483
01:16:40,880 --> 01:16:43,080
Speaker 3: We just hard to outside. We played ball and he

1484
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,200
Speaker 3: popped my chain and all that. But I'm not letting

1485
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:48,120
Speaker 3: him win. He's fourteen years old. I'm forty four years old.

1486
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 3: He got mad, he ran in the house and said

1487
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 3: it ain't fair. We didn't talk to the next day.

1488
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 3: But I'm not letting him win. And obviously I follow

1489
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:57,240
Speaker 3: some of the stuff that you talked about with your brother,

1490
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 3: my brother, different things like that.

1491
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:03,679
Speaker 1: So my son has game like i've You know, it's funny.

1492
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,719
Speaker 1: I love basketball, but I grew up in the eighties.

1493
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: We played a lot more football and baseball. And you

1494
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,000
Speaker 1: know this, In the early eighties, everything was about being

1495
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,959
Speaker 1: a big man, so none of us little guys learned skills.

1496
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: I was trying to be Patrick Ewing at five foot zero.

1497
01:17:19,560 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: You know, you know, it was all about big men

1498
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:23,240
Speaker 1: when I was growing up. Now all these kids got

1499
01:17:23,240 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: step curried out, they got handled. I mean, I go

1500
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:27,599
Speaker 1: to these AAU games. I was just went to this weekend.

1501
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: My son played three AAU games. These little kids that

1502
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: suck are good, you know what I mean, Like some

1503
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: kids are good. Now. I was like this kid thirty

1504
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:38,639
Speaker 1: years ago wouldn't even been on the court. But now

1505
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,200
Speaker 1: at a little handle and a clean jumper. It's crazy. Anyway,

1506
01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,600
Speaker 1: my brother, my mom's seventieth birthday just happened with the Bahamas,

1507
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,639
Speaker 1: and my son's talking all sorts of to my brother

1508
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: because I'm eleven years older than my brother, so we're

1509
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: like kind of these three generations. And my brother's much

1510
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: better at basketball than I am because I built him,

1511
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: and I've really built my son. And my son's gonna

1512
01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:01,920
Speaker 1: kill my brother in a couple of years, but he's

1513
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,679
Speaker 1: still too little right now. My brother put a whipping

1514
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,479
Speaker 1: on him. He beat him eleven two, and like Xander

1515
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 1: can really score, because they can really The two was earned,

1516
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: but Xander, Xander tried to come with that. These I

1517
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:17,559
Speaker 1: don't know, if you know, these these young kids, they

1518
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: don't play rebounds on one on one on one on

1519
01:18:20,800 --> 01:18:25,280
Speaker 1: one basketball. They think if you missed the shot. Me

1520
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: and my brother from the so my brother was just

1521
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:30,320
Speaker 1: doing big man in on him, and he was trying

1522
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: to complain about it. I was like, I wasn't hearing it. Look,

1523
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: let me take this subject matter deep. I believe the

1524
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:44,240
Speaker 1: number one mistake a father or mother can do for

1525
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:47,160
Speaker 1: a daughter and son in competition is let them win.

1526
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:51,599
Speaker 1: And when I say number one, I mean number one.

1527
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: There is a very specific reason that society is now

1528
01:18:56,360 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 1: littered with children contemplating suicide, kids anxious, every kid talking

1529
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:08,719
Speaker 1: about depression. We have over coddled the out of a generation.

1530
01:19:10,200 --> 01:19:13,720
Speaker 1: We made these kids soft. We gave them eighth place trophies.

1531
01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:17,719
Speaker 1: We stopped punishing them, we stopped grounding them. We definitely

1532
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:19,200
Speaker 1: don't hit them. You and I grew up in an

1533
01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: era our friends. I got my face smacked. My boy man,

1534
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 1: I had black friends. The switch from the.

1535
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 3: Like real, go pick that switch. You go pick the

1536
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 3: switch that you're gonna get your ass, and you try

1537
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 3: to pick the thin when you know the skinny ones

1538
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:33,799
Speaker 3: hurt your ass worse. You had to learn that to hardway.

1539
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:37,559
Speaker 1: I had a belt hanging in my house growing up immigrants,

1540
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:42,040
Speaker 1: like these kids are soft. It's not their fault, it's

1541
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: the parents' fault. And if you let your kid beat you,

1542
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: our kid. This is a good story. This happened three

1543
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 1: let's say Monday, two days ago. Our team is losing

1544
01:19:52,400 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 1: forty three to nine. They walked into the wrong team

1545
01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 1: and my son got clamped up two guards at the top.

1546
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,639
Speaker 1: He's got all sorts of school, but his team's soft,

1547
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: and his team's not that good, and he lost his

1548
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,400
Speaker 1: second and best player hurt his thumb, so they were

1549
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:11,880
Speaker 1: They were like done, they're getting killed. And one of

1550
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:14,519
Speaker 1: the parents on my kids teams during a timeouts like,

1551
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: good job, guys, right, I was like, literally this loud.

1552
01:20:19,560 --> 01:20:22,719
Speaker 1: I was like, definitely not a good job. You guys

1553
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:30,240
Speaker 1: are getting dismantled and embarrassed. Get your up and all parents,

1554
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 1: And it's funny. If I did that three years ago,

1555
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: I would have gotten scorned the out of the gym.

1556
01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,839
Speaker 1: But what I noticed was fifty percent of the parents

1557
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,559
Speaker 1: were happiest with me, and that tells me we're moving

1558
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,679
Speaker 1: in the right direction. Three years ago, in a baseball game,

1559
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,240
Speaker 1: parents got mad at me for keeping it real. Now

1560
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: parents in New York City are starting to get it.

1561
01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 1: We over coddled these kids. Parents should never let a

1562
01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:04,400
Speaker 1: kid win. When you teach a kid that winning and

1563
01:21:04,439 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 1: losing doesn't matter, it teaches indifference. Indifference means nothing matters,

1564
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,559
Speaker 1: nothing matters, leads to my life doesn't matter. I do

1565
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 1: not understand how people do not see what is going on.

1566
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:21,120
Speaker 1: This is dangerous. We put the kids up. Stop coddling

1567
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 1: these kids. Kids need consequences, Kids need ramifications, kids need boundaries,

1568
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:33,679
Speaker 1: Kids need to man up. Boys and girls and kids

1569
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 1: need to skin their knee. They need to fight. They

1570
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 1: need to lose. So we're losing forty three to eight.

1571
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 1: And the greatest thing that I've seen my son do

1572
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: in his professional life happened just two days ago, and

1573
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:52,519
Speaker 1: I want to give him flowers.

1574
01:21:53,040 --> 01:21:53,519
Speaker 3: Talk to me.

1575
01:21:53,560 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 1: We're down forty three to eight. He's bringing the ball

1576
01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:59,800
Speaker 1: up and he whizzes one over his center's head, trying

1577
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 1: to break the press, and the coach benches him because

1578
01:22:03,439 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 1: he's out of his he's frustrated. I watched that man

1579
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: start walking to the bench and just start crying. Sits down.

1580
01:22:11,000 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: He's crying. You cannot understand how proud I am.

1581
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that gives he cares for a.

1582
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: Parent to tell kids not to cry and say the

1583
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 1: worst this is the number one most loser the parents

1584
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:36,360
Speaker 1: can say to a kid, It's just a game. Let

1585
01:22:36,439 --> 01:22:39,839
Speaker 1: me tell you from the seat of a winner. Nothing

1586
01:22:39,960 --> 01:22:42,599
Speaker 1: in my life has ever been just a game. Nothing

1587
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,760
Speaker 1: is just a game. And these games matter to us

1588
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 1: more than breathing themselves. If you are lucky enough to

1589
01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:53,280
Speaker 1: have a child that cries when they lose, you should

1590
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 1: look up to God, kiss him or her, thank them

1591
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 1: for the luck of the DNA game. And you should

1592
01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: tell your child to cry. And you are very fortunate

1593
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: to have someone who is a competitor and who wants

1594
01:23:07,640 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: to do it. And I watched this man cry on

1595
01:23:10,040 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: the bench and it was the single proudest moment of

1596
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:13,599
Speaker 1: my life.

1597
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:15,080
Speaker 3: I agree.

1598
01:23:15,680 --> 01:23:18,200
Speaker 1: And that happened forty eight hours ago, and I've been

1599
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,120
Speaker 1: gliding since because you know what happened. He got to

1600
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:23,880
Speaker 1: play two games the next day. They played a team

1601
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: the next day, and he played like an ass ass,

1602
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:29,760
Speaker 1: which stunned me. He dropped twenty eight in the first

1603
01:23:29,760 --> 01:23:32,920
Speaker 1: half of the game. Before that, he can play, didn't

1604
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: play well. They lost to an inferior team. Now he's

1605
01:23:37,439 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: really frustrated. But what he did was he led. He led,

1606
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 1: so he like listened to dad and coach, and then

1607
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: they played a second game, a better team, the team

1608
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 1: that beat the ass of the team. They just lost too.

1609
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,280
Speaker 1: They're down ten and a half, and he came out

1610
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:53,600
Speaker 1: the second half and cooked and they won, and he

1611
01:23:53,640 --> 01:23:55,519
Speaker 1: had a full big boy moment.

1612
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 3: You watched it all in front of the eye.

1613
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 1: And that's how kids learn, not mommy and Daddy are

1614
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,559
Speaker 1: going to protect you. And then you send them into

1615
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:05,840
Speaker 1: the big, bad real world at twenty two years old,

1616
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:09,400
Speaker 1: and they're straight pussies crying about everything at their job

1617
01:24:09,600 --> 01:24:13,839
Speaker 1: and society, blaming Trump and Biden, blaming Mommy and Daddy,

1618
01:24:14,120 --> 01:24:18,440
Speaker 1: blaming the bosses, and walking around being straight pusses.

1619
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:19,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1620
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,240
Speaker 1: Period, No grit clip that.

1621
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,000
Speaker 3: No grit. No, I agree. I mean we had and

1622
01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,400
Speaker 3: I can't remember and I don't want to quote misquote,

1623
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,200
Speaker 3: but we had somebody come speak to us with the

1624
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,519
Speaker 3: Miami Heat, and the one thing they said, the biggest

1625
01:24:30,520 --> 01:24:32,960
Speaker 3: difference between this generation and the kids that making the

1626
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:35,120
Speaker 3: kids that don't is just a grit. They haven't developed

1627
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:37,759
Speaker 3: any grit. It's grit, haven't any.

1628
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,960
Speaker 1: And again, I'm not trying to be cool on this show.

1629
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 1: I'm scared for kids that are depressed. This is about

1630
01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 1: the kids. Yes, this isn't about being cool, this is

1631
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: about being macho. I'm not trying to be tough. I'm

1632
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:50,880
Speaker 1: trying to tell you how to get your kids off

1633
01:24:50,880 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: these pills. Here's how. Let them lose, let them fight,

1634
01:24:57,000 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: let them cry. We put these kids in bubbles. There's

1635
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:03,479
Speaker 1: zoo animals. Do you know what happens to zoo animals

1636
01:25:03,479 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: when you put them back in the wild. That zebra

1637
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,759
Speaker 1: gets killed in one second. Yeah, we made zoo animals

1638
01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:12,040
Speaker 1: for twenty years. Get the out of the way. You

1639
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: don't need to know where your kid is every second.

1640
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,080
Speaker 1: Do you know there's two Do you know about this legend?

1641
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 1: Do you know there's twenty three year olds that walk

1642
01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,680
Speaker 1: around Earth that their parents know exactly where they are

1643
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: because they're connected on the phone. They're twenty three years old.

1644
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:28,160
Speaker 1: Do you think you're telling that twenty three year old

1645
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:29,840
Speaker 1: you're telling them that you don't trust them to be

1646
01:25:29,880 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 1: a man. Yeah, to be a woman, you can go

1647
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:36,920
Speaker 1: to Afghanistan and shoot people at eighteen and mommy and

1648
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,360
Speaker 1: Daddy's got the phone tag at you at twenty two.

1649
01:25:40,160 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: We gotta wake the up.

1650
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. I'm gonna shoot off a couple

1651
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,120
Speaker 3: of rapid fire questions real quick. Here is AI content

1652
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:53,920
Speaker 3: creation future or fat future future? Cool?

1653
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,880
Speaker 1: Why you say that it's an inevitable technology is underfeed?

1654
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: H My guys, it's now. It's not even a future.

1655
01:26:02,760 --> 01:26:04,680
Speaker 1: The people that are winning rake the stando second are

1656
01:26:04,760 --> 01:26:07,799
Speaker 1: using AI creative technology right now, this second.

1657
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:11,040
Speaker 3: A couple of stock companies that I invested in were

1658
01:26:11,080 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 3: based on a lot of AI and stuff like that. Couple.

1659
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,479
Speaker 3: I do my research, man, I don't know if I

1660
01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 3: got a good like yours. I'm good. I've been right

1661
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 3: a couple of times. I don't hear you. Good for you,

1662
01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 3: thank you, thank you. One more we see in the

1663
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:29,679
Speaker 3: internet wave, the one before that, one before that? Hell yes,

1664
01:26:29,960 --> 01:26:31,800
Speaker 3: is college of scam. I was gonna skip that when

1665
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,240
Speaker 3: because I figured you had some is college.

1666
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,840
Speaker 1: Of scam for fifty percent of kids? It is?

1667
01:26:36,240 --> 01:26:37,759
Speaker 3: And why do you say that? Can you explain?

1668
01:26:37,920 --> 01:26:41,479
Speaker 1: Yep? If you're an entrepreneur or you're creative and you

1669
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:45,320
Speaker 1: go to college and collect debt and collect debt, I'm

1670
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 1: being very specific.

1671
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,600
Speaker 3: Here, so most likely you're not an athlete because we

1672
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:49,440
Speaker 3: get scholarships.

1673
01:26:49,439 --> 01:26:52,280
Speaker 1: Correct, So I'm going nice and slow. If you are

1674
01:26:52,280 --> 01:26:59,800
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, or you're creative and not or and you

1675
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:02,120
Speaker 1: collect debt because mommy and daddy you're not going to

1676
01:27:02,160 --> 01:27:07,439
Speaker 1: pay for it, you cannot go to college if mommy

1677
01:27:07,439 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: and daddy paid for it. By the way, mommy and

1678
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:12,360
Speaker 1: daddy wanted me to go to I was fighting it.

1679
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:13,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I don't want to go. I don't

1680
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:14,320
Speaker 1: want to go. But I grew up in that era

1681
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 1: where they were embarrassed if I didn't go. I was like,

1682
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna pay for it. I had four years ago.

1683
01:27:18,520 --> 01:27:20,280
Speaker 1: You know what I did in college? I played ce

1684
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:25,240
Speaker 1: lo I played spades, I played I played Madden, and

1685
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,400
Speaker 1: I had a four year vacation because I knew I

1686
01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:29,560
Speaker 1: was going to work the rest of my life. Whow

1687
01:27:30,280 --> 01:27:32,080
Speaker 1: But if mommy and daddy you're not going to pay

1688
01:27:32,120 --> 01:27:38,280
Speaker 1: for it or scholarship, and if now, if you're going

1689
01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: to be a lawyer a doctor, if you're if you're

1690
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: capable of being great at school and that will set

1691
01:27:43,400 --> 01:27:46,480
Speaker 1: you up, those are different. But if you are creative,

1692
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: an entrepreneur and you're gonna collect debt. It is the

1693
01:27:51,160 --> 01:27:55,280
Speaker 1: great scam of our society. So it's very specific. It's

1694
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: not a universal thing. That's that, And I'll tell you why,

1695
01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,160
Speaker 1: because I have one hundred thousand dms to prove it

1696
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:05,080
Speaker 1: of kids that are depressed that they have one hundred

1697
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:07,800
Speaker 1: and thirteen thousand dollars in debt at high interest and

1698
01:28:07,920 --> 01:28:10,080
Speaker 1: nothing they did in college led to anything in real

1699
01:28:10,080 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 1: life changed. It's not nineteen sixty eight now.

1700
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,160
Speaker 3: I will agree with that. I saw a lot of

1701
01:28:15,240 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 3: kids that were headed the class and for whatever reason,

1702
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 3: they didn't go into the job field that they thought

1703
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 3: they were going to go into because somebody knew somebody

1704
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 3: that here.

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01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:27,080
Speaker 1: On the other bro, I'm the hottest advertising agency in

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01:28:27,280 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: the world. We know, I don't. We don't even require college.

1707
01:28:30,560 --> 01:28:32,519
Speaker 1: I don't. I got three thousand pployees. I can't tell

1708
01:28:32,560 --> 01:28:36,000
Speaker 1: you a single stephone worked for me for years. I

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01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:37,840
Speaker 1: if he told me, like, give me fifty million dollars

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01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,120
Speaker 1: right now and tell me where I went to college,

1711
01:28:39,120 --> 01:28:40,559
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know. You meant d rock somewhere,

1712
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. It doesn't matter.

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01:28:44,280 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 3: I agree.

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01:28:44,720 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 1: It's a piece of paper from Michigan, gonna mean to me.

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01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree. In the last one, we've seen

1716
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 3: an Internet wave, the smallphone wave, the social media wave.

1717
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:53,880
Speaker 3: What's the next big thing in tech?

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01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:58,639
Speaker 1: It's clearly AI, and it's big big, it's and it's

1719
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: right on there with those it's and this one's big.

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01:29:03,640 --> 01:29:03,840
Speaker 3: Big.

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01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:08,080
Speaker 1: I know we've been here for a minute, so let

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01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:10,840
Speaker 1: me wrap up with this. One hour a day on

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01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:15,920
Speaker 1: CHATBT and Google YouTube. If you learn that way, AI

1724
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: research for every single human listening, literally the same way

1725
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 1: you think about the gym one hour a day on Twitter. However,

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01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: you research about AI, download the apps, play the apps.

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01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: You can't read about push ups. I can't read about

1728
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 1: how to work on my crossover. You gotta go and

1729
01:29:36,800 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 1: do it. You gotta download the AI app. You gotta

1730
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,080
Speaker 1: use it. You gotta download the AI app. You gotta

1731
01:29:41,160 --> 01:29:44,519
Speaker 1: use it. It is. It is oxygen to be a

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01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:48,200
Speaker 1: human being, professionally and personally in the next decade.

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01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 3: Wow, and og advice. That one you said about being lazy?

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01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:52,479
Speaker 4: Ye?

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01:29:53,640 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 1: Which one? Oh? You mean the the luck is the

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01:29:59,720 --> 01:30:01,000
Speaker 1: weapon of choice of the lazy.

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01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,600
Speaker 3: Look o g advice today. Luck is the weapon of

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01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 3: choice of the lazy. I love that one. We're gonna

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01:30:08,560 --> 01:30:11,320
Speaker 3: end it on that man. So appreciate you guy. Man,

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01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 3: I know you're a business man. Appreciate you coming in

1741
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 3: and taking your time. And I learned a lot today.

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01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 3: Like I said, it's not so many times people sit

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01:30:16,960 --> 01:30:18,360
Speaker 3: in front of me. So I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it.