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Speaker 3: This is the ultimate combine you want to fall.

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Speaker 2: And we are underway. What's up everyone? Welcome to the

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Speaker 2: Action Network Podcast presented by bet MGM. I'm your host

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Speaker 2: Chris Raybaund from the Action Network, and today we've got

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Speaker 2: our NFL player projections for Week nine aka Trade deadline weekend,

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Speaker 2: as I bring in one of the most accurate fantasy

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Speaker 2: football rankers and the biz, the odds maker Sean Kerner.

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Speaker 2: I just want to let everybody know that our recording

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Speaker 2: time on Tuesdays actually right in the window when the

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Speaker 2: trade deadline is supposed to end, so we might get

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Speaker 2: some breaking news as we are as recording. As we're recording,

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Speaker 2: isn't have to adjust on a fly show on how

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Speaker 2: you feeling?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, happy trade deadline day? Just curious did you have

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Speaker 1: any thoughts on the Monday night football game last night

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Speaker 1: between the Lions and Traders.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I had Lions minus seven, and that was

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Speaker 2: one of the most excruciating offensive performances I think I've

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Speaker 2: ever seen in my life. I was just I'm not

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Speaker 2: even a Lions fan, and I was all worked up.

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Speaker 2: I just thought Ben Johnson was trying to be cute

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Speaker 2: in a primetime game. And I mean some of the

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Speaker 2: like did you see them just every time they had

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Speaker 2: and go backwards because they're throwing like pop passes to

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Speaker 2: Kaalif Raymond. Their receivers, the wide receivers are running, are

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Speaker 2: running and throwing more than a catching Like what I

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Speaker 2: was not a fit And then you had the Raiders

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Speaker 2: on the other side just just stinking it out. What

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Speaker 2: did you think of that game?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I had the Max Crosby prop so I

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Speaker 1: loved it. I think he got the tackle on that

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Speaker 1: trick play you're talking about. Oh yeah, oh I lost

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Speaker 1: with Jamo Jamo of course. Yeah, where his helmet went

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Speaker 1: flying off. That was Max Crosby. Uh but yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was a rough game. Who knows, Maybe DeVante Adams does

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Speaker 1: get traded while we're recording. We're all waiting to see that.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't think he's too happy right now.

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Speaker 2: Man, I mean I don't I don't like when receivers

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Speaker 2: do it so publicly. I know he's frustrated, but I

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Speaker 2: feel like you go from part of the solution, like

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Speaker 2: obviously he's getting open and Jimmy's missing him. But when

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Speaker 2: you do that in front of a live TV audience

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Speaker 2: and now everyone's gonna be talking about it, I feel

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Speaker 2: like you've become just another part of the problem. So

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Speaker 2: I don't think it was the best look for DeVante,

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Speaker 2: but I mean he's the least of the Raiders' worries

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Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, not get but I.

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Speaker 2: Mean wow, I mean just wow, wow, both offenses. I

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Speaker 2: mean that was just that was that was rough. That

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Speaker 2: was a rough one. So hopefully we got this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be a really interesting week of football. I mean,

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Speaker 2: we got a bunch of unknowns at quarterback, we got

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Speaker 2: trades happening, and so there's gonna be some defenses that

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Speaker 2: are different. Be sure to remember that when you're if

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Speaker 2: you use or rely heavily on you know, defense versus

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Speaker 2: position data in in fantasy, it starts decision in DFS.

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Speaker 2: Just a lot of things to kind of be aware of.

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Speaker 2: So we'll kind of talk through all of that as

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Speaker 2: we go through each position here. So let's start it

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Speaker 2: off Quarterback Week nine. We got in your top five.

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Speaker 1: Let's see, so I have Patrick Maholmes, Josh Allen, Jalen Hurts,

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and I mean to us right there, but

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Joe Burrow at number five.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Burrow like a couple of tenths aheaded

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Speaker 2: to it as well at five. But yeah, Mahomes, Hurts, Jackson,

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean, first of all, there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have like Jared Hall, Brett, Rippon, Tyson Bagent.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it's just a disaster. So having said that, I'm

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Speaker 1: actually high on Zach Wilson. I don't think I've ever

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Speaker 1: The two connected for a seven catch hunter yard game

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Speaker 1: bigger game. Paus Breese Hall seems much closer to one

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Speaker 1: and Wilson does have rushing upside if and when he

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Speaker 1: ever chooses to tap into it. He has more than

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Speaker 1: I do think they want him doing that a little

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Speaker 1: bit more, and this is a great matchup for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Chargers have allowed the most fantasy points

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Speaker 1: to qbs on the season again, there's a ton of

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Speaker 1: bad backups starting this week. Four teams on by So,

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson is like a mid range QB two for

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Speaker 2: Is Zach Wilson like a new strain? Like are you

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Speaker 2: high in Zach Wilson the quarterback? Or you just high

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Speaker 2: oh the Jack Wilson like another type of green.

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Speaker 1: H What's what's the d M T? The Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: stuff you call Iowa? Is that what I'm doing here?

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Speaker 3: Well? Where where the hell do you have Zach Olson?

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Speaker 3: Ring do you have? And Kenny Pickett over him? And

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Speaker 3: P J? Walker? Who do you have over zachls.

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Speaker 2: Not not picket not faked? You know me I have

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Speaker 2: now I have Wilson twentieth So yeah, right, you know

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Speaker 2: there's I mean, it's disgusting. Do you.

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Speaker 3: Like where do you know.

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Speaker 2: Brett k Jaron Hall, Daniel Jones for the Giants, Picket

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Speaker 2: Heinikey and Ritter Split Like it's it's we don't even

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Speaker 2: against Pageant and Brian Dabel. You know, it's crazy. After

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Speaker 3: That fourth down games ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, bro, like you like you gotta come on, Like

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Speaker 2: everyone knew that field goal was just like just go

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Speaker 1: They if they go for that convert I actually cashed

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Speaker 1: my Zach Wilson prop of under one hundred and ninety

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Speaker 2: I mean, a wise guy named Sean Kerner whins totally

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Speaker 2: don't really passing yards props.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I know.

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Speaker 2: All the props.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I know there, I know they're they're they're absolutely tilting.

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Speaker 1: I bet three or four of those a year, I'll

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I do.

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Speaker 1: I do agree that a couple of times a year,

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Speaker 3: But in general I try to stay away.

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Speaker 2: You know, what we should do, We should just kind

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Speaker 2: always feel like I do my initial projections. I have

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Speaker 2: way you and I both I think, do our projections.

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Speaker 1: I saw it like like Thursday, I was looking at

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Speaker 1: the mondaynight football props, every prop, and Goff's passing prop

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Speaker 1: was like two eighty four, and I was going to

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Speaker 1: And then it by the time on I'm on green

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Speaker 1: I think getting these openers is the way to go

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Speaker 1: if you can, because that's obviously when there's a ton

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Speaker 1: them swing like ten twenty yards times.

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Speaker 2: get an idea of what the markets are. Yeah, thinking anyway,

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Speaker 2: and like Jimmy G's prop opened like two fifty seven,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, how, like where are we getting

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Speaker 2: getting I know they have Adams, but like I had

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Darrington in there and you got like I want

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to my boy Chris Thompson. He he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, are you high on Jordan Love or

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Speaker 1: some pink stuff? I don't know, but yeah, you stole

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Speaker 1: But I do like Love here. He's my QB twelve,

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Speaker 2: Yeah it was. I mean, you you gave out Zach Wilson.

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Speaker 2: oh no, you know how much disdain I have for

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Speaker 2: keep it going. But yeah, I love my QB nine, Car,

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Speaker 2: He's eighteenth in consensus, and Baker is a QB eighteen

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Speaker 2: fifteenth against the run, and Tampa Bay's seventy one percent

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Speaker 2: Houston's given up the twelve most fantasy points to quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: and you're lowing car I see, So that's'll talk to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I it's just a way to talk about

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Speaker 1: So Carr could end up being my QB nine, could

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Speaker 1: not shocked that he's QB ten, But the Saints are,

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Speaker 1: you know, their seven point favorites that it might limit

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just you know, real quick, My thought

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Speaker 2: Gino Smith and it's been ugly for him this year.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the Seahawks, My Seahawks to win a division

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Speaker 2: about the Seahawks going forward. But but Gino Smith is

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Speaker 3: I don't even know where it got QB threeteen, not even.

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Speaker 2: Because he only had one finish. You know, he only

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm saying from last year. Everyone

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Speaker 1: then he really regressed and everyone's just still, you know,

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Speaker 1: We should have a rule. Whoever's actually lower on him

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would actually be idea, But I think it.

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Speaker 2: I mean it does like we just got to get

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Speaker 3: So no, I know, I'm I'm just busting your balls. No,

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Speaker 2: I just go because I'm been doing updates with all

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Speaker 2: at some point. He's got to drop him below a

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Speaker 2: future Hall of Famer Will Levis, and uh yeah, you

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Speaker 2: get to go. Okay, you are. You went to an

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Speaker 3: Let's go with this prop.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give out his passing air prop against the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna set it at two oh three and

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Speaker 1: a half over.

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Speaker 2: I'm going over. Yeah, So this is what will Levis

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Speaker 2: does he throws the ball down the football field. The

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Speaker 2: Steelers are one of the worst teams against deep passes.

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Speaker 2: They just lost the safety make of Fitzpatrick. You also

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Speaker 2: have a short week to prepare, which I think benefits

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Speaker 2: Levis because you know, you give a full week to

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Speaker 2: prepare and now now you can really kind of break

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Speaker 2: some some tape down, and you know, there's not much

445
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Speaker 2: to begin with. But he was you know, one hundred

446
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Speaker 2: and forty one yards on eight deep pass attempts, three

447
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Speaker 2: touchdown and Hopkins is getting open and Pittsburgh dead last

448
00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 2: in explosive pass play rate allowed on defense. So I

449
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Speaker 2: think this is gonna be you know, if the Titan

450
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Speaker 2: like we think the Titans are probably gonna ride Derrick Henry,

451
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Speaker 2: which would make sense rookie quarterback making his first road start.

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Speaker 2: But I think there's a chance for the Titans to

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Speaker 2: catch the Steelers off guard, even if it's just with

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Speaker 2: play action again and that you know, the back end

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Speaker 2: of that defense has really been where the issue is.

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Speaker 2: So you know, Levis could get sacked a bunch, But

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Speaker 2: I also think he he hits some deep balls. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: going over.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this was my initial projection. But I

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Speaker 1: just saw they posted props for Thursday football and they

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Speaker 1: have it at one ninety nine and a half.

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Speaker 3: So maybe this is one of those ones you want

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Speaker 3: to get on it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I just want to

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Speaker 2: take the Titans straight like.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, well very love.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, there's a chance, you know, if he struggles,

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Speaker 1: Milk will also will come in, but I just don't

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Speaker 1: see that. And if anything, Willis would come in, like

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Speaker 1: I don't know, in like a goal line package sort

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Speaker 1: of like take some hill. So I don't really have

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Speaker 1: him eating into his into Levis's passing production at all.

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Speaker 1: I don't know how you're projecting that situation. But as

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Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, Lewis is taking like ninety eight

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Speaker 1: percent of the dropbacks.

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, like this could be the start of I mean,

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Speaker 2: I you know, quarterback evaluation is tough. I didn't see

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Speaker 2: a ton with Lewis. It's just kind of more of

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Speaker 2: an unknown than anything. And then you know, he was

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Speaker 2: not even a clear backup in can so that was

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Speaker 2: kind of confusing. But when I watched him against Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's not a guy I want to fade,

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Speaker 2: not right, how many rookie quarterbacks, do you know, get

484
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Speaker 2: a road getting on a road and get a one

485
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Speaker 2: as an underdog and at first start throw four touchdowns,

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Speaker 2: no picks, and like people were saying, well, Hopkins got

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Speaker 2: super open and made it easy. Well, we saw Davante

488
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Speaker 2: Adams get super open and a quarterback that's been in

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Speaker 2: the Super Bowl couldn't connected to numerous times.

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Speaker 1: It's the case he has DeAndre Hopkins at his disposal

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Speaker 1: again this week.

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Speaker 3: Why would that that might be a bad thing?

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Speaker 1: But yeah, I remember, like justin Herbert, that was the

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Speaker 1: COVID year. There wasn't a preseason, and then he took

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Speaker 1: over for Tyra Taylor and we all knew what he

496
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Speaker 1: was good obviously, but then we saw like I remember

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Speaker 1: just watching like the first two drives and going, holy shit,

498
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Speaker 1: he's already a top ten quarterback. Were you getting any

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Speaker 1: of those vibes at all from Levis or we you know,

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Speaker 1: get out of it.

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Speaker 2: But I mean, yeah, I wouldn't say I think I

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Speaker 2: think Herbert. I think Herbert is actually a good comparison

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Speaker 2: where it's like it's it's a little bit it's a

504
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Speaker 2: little bit raw, it's not always going to be pretty,

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Speaker 2: and he might end up being like a five hundred

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Speaker 2: quarterback at the end of the day, but he could

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Speaker 2: took some numbers and he's gonna hit some deep passes.

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Speaker 2: And like remember Tannehill when they took over and how

509
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Speaker 2: like it was just such a shift for the Titans

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Speaker 2: and they never looked back. And I mean, the rumors

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Speaker 2: we're hearing is that they may have held off on

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Speaker 2: having a fire a complete fire sale because of how

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Speaker 2: well Levis played in in that win over Atlanta. So

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Speaker 2: now you're sitting here and you're looking at three and

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Speaker 2: four in in a in an AFC where you know

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Speaker 2: there's wild card spots up for grabs and somewhat you know,

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Speaker 2: fairly weak division as well. So yeah, I think I

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Speaker 2: think they're gonna They're gonna keep Rydan Levis, and I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised to see him hit some deep shots

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Speaker 2: against this Uh, this Steeler defensive struggles with a post

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Speaker 2: with no minco, which is you know, it's tough. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Porter's been great, so he'll he'll he'll be an asset,

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Speaker 2: Game problem call one eight hundred gambler. Let's go to

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Speaker 2: running back? Who got in the top five?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so, first of all, this is a pretty brutal

536
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Speaker 1: week for bye weeks.

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Speaker 3: At running back.

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Speaker 1: You know you have Christ McCaffrey, ETN Gibbs and Montgomery

539
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Speaker 1: on a bye By the way, Gibbs finish as the

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Speaker 1: RB two, so we both got right. So yeah, right

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Speaker 1: now it's pretty wide open. I have number one Alvin Kamara, uh,

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Speaker 1: and then I have Saquon Barkley, Josh Jacobs, Austin Eckler,

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Speaker 1: and DeAndre Swift.

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Speaker 2: Who Swift spicy. I have a Barkley Camara Eckler, Joe

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Speaker 2: Mixon number four, nice getting all all the work in

546
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Speaker 2: that Bengaled backfield, and Jacob's five. So okay, very we

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Speaker 2: have Swift, then I think like more in like the

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Speaker 2: back half of the top ten.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, yes, it's pretty close. The top ten is

550
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Speaker 3: wide open.

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Speaker 2: Actually, oh, actually have an RB twelve.

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Speaker 3: Oh okay, rby twelve.

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Speaker 2: You know Philly, you know, going against a good defense. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: and could end up having to pass a little more

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00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 2: in Swift even though he is a pass catching back.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's a j Brown is just dominating targets there.

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00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: So you know, you could get a little little gamescript

558
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Speaker 2: depending at times with Swift these days. So yeah, a

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Speaker 2: little lower on him. But who are you? Yeah, who

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Speaker 2: are you?

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Speaker 1: H Well, it's it sounds like we're on the same

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Speaker 1: page here. I'm high on Joe Mixon. He's my RB six,

563
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Speaker 1: so I guess you're hiring on him. To me, consensus

564
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 1: is RB fourteen right now, which is wild if you

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Speaker 1: ask me. But you know, he's coming off a great

566
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Speaker 1: game against the Niners. He's going to benefit a ton

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Speaker 1: from Joe Burrow. Looking closer to one hundred percent. He

568
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Speaker 1: needs the offense to be good in order to thrive,

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Speaker 1: so that's good news going forward. This is you know,

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Speaker 1: a tougher matchup on paper against the Bills, but their

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Speaker 1: defense definitely has taken taking a step back with day

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Speaker 1: Kue Jones and Matt Malano on are. You know, they've

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Speaker 1: allowed rush attempts of ten or more yards at the

574
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Speaker 1: third highest rate in the league. So this is a

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Speaker 1: beatable defense for running backs. So yeah, I'm right there

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Speaker 1: with you. I think Mixing, especially on this week where

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Speaker 1: there's a ton of good running backs on buy, he's

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Speaker 1: definitely like a mid range RB one option.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely love love Mixing, and he's I mean, he's

580
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Speaker 2: looked fine too. It's not you know, everyone's like, oh,

581
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Speaker 2: he's just washed or whatever. But it was fine to

582
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Speaker 2: be Bengals starting to play better and better. Great win

583
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Speaker 2: against the forty nine ers, So I like it. I

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Speaker 2: am high on Zach Moss. You know, even with Johnson

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Speaker 2: Taylor back, and you know, as much as they keep saying,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're gonna give Taylor more more work, this

587
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: coach team is just very running back reliant, and so

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Speaker 2: I think these guys are gonna continue to both have

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Speaker 2: value most weeks, and so far, you know, Moss has

590
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Speaker 2: been out carrying Tailor since Taylor returned by fifteen carries,

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Speaker 2: and if you take out that first game Tailor came back,

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Speaker 2: So only the last three games, he's only got two

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Speaker 2: fewer carries than Taylor, and Taylor has never had more

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Speaker 2: than one more carry than Moss in a game. Both

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Speaker 2: of them have six opportunities, have had six opportunities inside

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Speaker 2: the opponent's ten yard line since Taylor returned. Moss has

597
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Speaker 2: actually done a better job at converting touchdowns and he

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Speaker 2: had the final two carries for the team inside the

599
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Speaker 2: five yard line a week ago. So you know, Stichen

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Speaker 2: is having to answer questions about, you know, Taylor and

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Speaker 2: why don't give him more work, But he said, hey,

602
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: like we got we have specific things for both of

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Speaker 2: these guys. We're riding a hot hand and both of

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Speaker 2: them are going to be involved in the game plan

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Speaker 2: on a weekly basis. So I like both of these backs,

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Speaker 2: Taylor and Moss to produce top twenty value against a

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Speaker 2: Carolina Panther run defense that is dead last in DVOA

608
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Speaker 2: and it's somewhat of a run funnel as well, because

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Speaker 2: they're average against the past fifteenth, but dead last against

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Speaker 2: the run and the Coats. You know, they're not the Texas.

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Speaker 2: They can run the ball. So like me, some zach

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Speaker 2: Mosas have him inside the top twenty. Consensus has been

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Speaker 2: just outside the top twenty.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like last week he was barely able to practice,

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Speaker 1: barely able to play. Me still a timeshare with Taylor.

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Speaker 1: You know who could use Zach Moss right now? The Vikings,

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Speaker 1: the Bills.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I didn't even thinking of it, and they

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Speaker 2: got what they found four nette. They just sound four net.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, but that would be awkward trade trade

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Speaker 1: him back, get him back, man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they they goofed on that because even last year

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Speaker 2: with Jeff Saturday, Zach Moss was bawling out. So yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: it was uh, you know, it happens. But let's go

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Speaker 2: to guys. We are low on who you got.

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Speaker 1: I'm low on Kenneth Walker. I have him as the

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Speaker 1: RB fifteen. You know, he's facing the Ravens this week.

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Speaker 1: Last week only ran eight the ball eight times, but

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Speaker 1: still managed to go for sixty six cards. Because he's

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Speaker 1: obviously very talented. I'm sure his CAF injury had a

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Speaker 1: lot to do with you know, his limited touches, but

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Speaker 1: he could be limited again this week. They also just

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Speaker 1: might get Zach Charbonnet more involved going for just keep

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Speaker 1: Walker fresh, plus might as well. Charbonne is really really talented,

635
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 1: and this is a brutal matchup. You know, the Ravens

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00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,360
Speaker 1: ranked fifth DV against the run. Also, this is a

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Speaker 1: game where Seattle might be trailing. Walker doesn't see much

638
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: third down or two minute offensive work anyway, so that

639
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Speaker 1: this could be a bad trailing game script for him.

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Speaker 1: As always, this is a reminder if Zach Charbonay is

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00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,719
Speaker 1: somehow available in your league, please go pick him up.

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00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: There's not any running backs that are available that will

643
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 1: become you know, like a borderline RB one option if

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00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 1: the starter were to go down, but he's one of them,

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Speaker 1: So stop messing around the flavors of the week the

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Speaker 1: waiver wire and just stash Sharboney over like a wide

647
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: receiver you'll never use, like Odell Beckham or kJ Osborne.

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Speaker 1: Just please please make sure Sharpe isn't available in your league.

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00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: But just having said that, Walker is just more of

650
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: a mid range RB two this week. He's a little

651
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: bit tougher to trust. But again, if you have him,

652
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: you're probably gonna have to plan.

653
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you have Jamison Williams, it's easy, easy draft.

654
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what'd you do? You know, what were you doing?

655
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 3: Draft him in anyway?

656
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 2: Hey, that was in death. But speaking of which, I

657
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: drafted a out of Alexander Madison and that's who I'm

658
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 2: low on this week, because my goodness, can this guy

659
00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: not find a hole to save his life? I mean

660
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 2: it's crazy because he's got like everything I predicted is

661
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: coming through, except you're just not getting production. Like they're

662
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 2: they're like irrationally committed to him, even though they have

663
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: another option on the team. They went right back to

664
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: giving Madison, you know, you know, starters workload over cam Acers.

665
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 2: Even after Acres, every time Akers plays, he looks like

666
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 2: the better back. Both of their numbers aren't great, but

667
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: he's also been somewhat unlucky because the Vikings have eighteen

668
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: passing touchdowns and one rushing touchdown. But now this week,

669
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 2: Minnesota's implied total is barely over sixteen points, so there's

670
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: not a lot of touchdowns to go around. Period. Without

671
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins, you're gonna start, likely Jaron hall a rookie

672
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 2: and if you know, maybe you have some Josh Dobbs mixing,

673
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: but we you know, you know that's not gonna get

674
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 2: you a ton of touchdowns either. And then Acres has

675
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 2: been the better guy in scoring position since Acres arrived.

676
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 2: Him and Madison have the same number of carries inside

677
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 2: the ten to a piece, and on the year, Madison

678
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 2: has eight carries for negative one yard inside the opponent's ten.

679
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 2: Acres has been at least somewhat competent with the four

680
00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: carries eleven yards and two touchdowns. So Atlanta number one

681
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 2: defense in EPA per rush all out. This is not

682
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: a defense you want to run against. I know some

683
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: people are gonna say, well, Cousins is injured, Vikers just

684
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 2: gonna run at a ton and they might, but we

685
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: know Madison is not yo volume is not enough, especially

686
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: when he's getting just enough carry swipe by Acres and

687
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: potentially some goal line work swipe by Acres and the

688
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: defense gonna be able to stack the box. Now, So

689
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 2: you know, if the touchdown equity isn't there, I don't

690
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 2: I can't recommend you know, Madison as an RB two,

691
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: but ECR does have him as running back twenty three.

692
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 2: I have him as running back thirty two, so I

693
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: am down and out at Madison, which means he probably

694
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 2: have like two touchdowns and one hundred yards. Yeah, but yeah,

695
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: I just don't like this at all, despite you know,

696
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:39,840
Speaker 2: potentially an increase in team rushing rate for the Viking

697
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: sans cousins. All right, let's go prop, let's go, let's

698
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 2: go Madison, Let's go Madison. Since this is we're not

699
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 2: even gonna throw Acres in there, just gonna go Madison.

700
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna set his rushing yardage prop at forty and

701
00:34:59,640 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 2: a half.

702
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,759
Speaker 3: I wrote down forty two and a half.

703
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: Uh, so I guess I will go with the over

704
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:06,840
Speaker 1: here barely.

705
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 3: I don't love it.

706
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: They have been a nightmare trying to project the week's week.

707
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: It's almost like whoever is the least efficient back, they

708
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: just start getting more work to Uh. The only week

709
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: with cam Makers wasn't the more efficient back was against

710
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: the Niners, so they get that was the game. They

711
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: gave him more work when Madison was looking okay, So yeah,

712
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with that trend. Whoever's the

713
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 1: least efficient back will get more work and that's Madison again,

714
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: so give me the over but barely.

715
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, another like, I mean, I what a confounding backfie,

716
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 2: I can't. I mean, it's funny because ty Chandler I

717
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 2: thought that height was like silly, but at this point,

718
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:52,279
Speaker 2: I from what I've seen, I feel like ty Candler

719
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: should get some shots in that backfield as well. I

720
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: really don't know what Koc is doing out there, man.

721
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, and Nulongo is questionable.

722
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 2: I think he yeah he. I mean, he's gonna return kicks,

723
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: so they'll get him touches that way. I hear that.

724
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: I guess Koc's offense is pretty complex, which is maybe

725
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 2: partially perhaps why Madison is getting so much work, because

726
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,399
Speaker 2: remember last year, Madison got a lot less work than

727
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: everyone thought behind Cook. So it might just be one

728
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,439
Speaker 2: of those situations where it's like you just cannot learn

729
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 2: the offense in a year.

730
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know, man, I mean that's what

731
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 3: I was saying with Madison.

732
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: It's like, I don't know if he's good enough to

733
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: hang on the job, but I don't know who would

734
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: leap frogum Y Mike Davis what a few years ago

735
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: when he was being drafted at RB two. I was like,

736
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 1: I can't draft him, but I don't know who's gonna

737
00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: leap rogum.

738
00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 3: The whole time it was Cordella Pattison. They don't have

739
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 3: a guy like that.

740
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 2: So Powell might running back Powell.

741
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could get behind that.

742
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 2: I would like to see some LONGU though. I mean

743
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 2: if he's yeah, he's got enough explosiveness to handle kicks,

744
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 2: why don't let to let the kid touch the rock

745
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: on offense? But I mean you still.

746
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Speaker 2: your top five for week?

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Speaker 1: Not?

772
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 2: Uh?

773
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 1: Got Tyreek Kill, Jamar Chase, Stefan Diggs, AJ Brown and

774
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: CD Lamb Adam is feeling this close to make it

775
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: a real spicy this close.

776
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, he's been up there for me as well.

777
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: Great great bounce back seasoned by him. I mean another

778
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: guy that Vikings maybe could possibly so. I guess Osborn's

779
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 2: been playing really well too, so but yeah, I got

780
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: the same time. So who you high on?

781
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm high on George Pickens against the Titans. He's my

782
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 1: wide receiver twenty ECR has some wide receiver twenty seven.

783
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: It probably doesn't matter, if I'm being honest, if Kenny

784
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: Pickett or Mitch Trubisky starts for Pickens. You know, Pickens

785
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: is coming off a one catch twenty two yard game

786
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 1: with a touchdown. Could have had an even better game

787
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 1: if he's just stayed in balance on like a deep ball.

788
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 3: I thought he got in again.

789
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:30,359
Speaker 1: It seems like every week he's making some amazing sideline grab.

790
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: This one was ruled incomplete, but I think he should

791
00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: bounce back here. This is a great matchup. You know,

792
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: the Titans are pass final defense, so I'm viewing him

793
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 1: poor as a mid range wide receiver two obviously always

794
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: has you know, good touchdown upside. And my other guy

795
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: is Jonathan Mingo against the Colts. He's my wide receiver

796
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: forty six. ECR is still very low on him at

797
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver sixty three. Still not startable and you know

798
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: traditional twelve teen leagues, but he definitely needs to be

799
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:03,480
Speaker 1: monitored and certainly in play for DFS. I said before

800
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: the season that. You know, Mingo was a great fit

801
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: for Bryce Young. You know, they would probably need time

802
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: to really get on the same page, so there was

803
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: a chance that this could happen after their bye week,

804
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: and sir, you know, sure, surely.

805
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,799
Speaker 3: That's what happened. He went four catches for six two

806
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 3: yards against Texans. Again.

807
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 1: You know, Adam Field is still the clear number one

808
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: target in this offense, but Mingo looks like the clear

809
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: number two target now with DJ Chark being you know,

810
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 1: the low volume deep threat. Hayden Hurst has been almost

811
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: completely phase out of the offense now, so that's why

812
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm way higher on Mingo. I just think he's gonna

813
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 1: be the number two target going forward, only going to

814
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: get better again. You know, Bryce Young's playing style is

815
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: a bit unique, so I thought that it would take

816
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: some time for them to get on the same page.

817
00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: But it's here.

818
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 1: So definitely someone in a monitor in sort of that

819
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 1: wide receiver four flex range.

820
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if we were doing the thing, whoever is

821
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:02,359
Speaker 2: you know, high or lower on him gets him. I

822
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:07,880
Speaker 2: am actually once a spot higher than you. Totally totally agree.

823
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: I think Thomas Brown taking over play calling duties has

824
00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: a lot to do with it. And I mean before

825
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,239
Speaker 2: the that Lion's Raiders game, one of the biggest things

826
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,360
Speaker 2: I got worked up about this year was just the

827
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 2: Panthers just I thought it was just bone headed off

828
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 2: season decision making. And we already see, you know, Brown

829
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: is in the controls for a week, and they're already

830
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: kind of getting away from Miles Sanders, getting away from

831
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 2: from Hayden Hurst and you know, feeling turned out to

832
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 2: be good. But you know, the batting average, you know,

833
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 2: for a lot of those offseason moves isn't great for Carolina,

834
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 2: And so yeah, I think they have every incentive to

835
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 2: you know, keep kind of feeding and pushing more of

836
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: the offense toward Mingo, who you know, as far as

837
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,839
Speaker 2: the future goes, is even more important than Adam Thiel.

838
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 2: And you gotta think because you know that's that's gonna

839
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: you know, we have your rookie quarterback on his rookie

840
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: contract window, and you have a rookie wide receiver that

841
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 2: he needs to grow with. So yeah, I expect then

842
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,320
Speaker 2: go to keep keep ascending as well. I got a

843
00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 2: rookie couple of rookies as well that I am high on.

844
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 2: The first is de Mario Douglas, Pop Douglas out there

845
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: in New England going against the fire selling Washington Commanders.

846
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: He is my wide receiver thirty seven, he's fifty two

847
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,240
Speaker 2: in ECR, and you know, well, New England is favored

848
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:32,600
Speaker 2: the Washington defense, even with trading Young and Sweat. I

849
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 2: think there's still somewhat of a pass funnel. You know,

850
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 2: they are top six and DVO against the run, bottom

851
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 2: three against the pass, giving up the second most yards

852
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 2: per game to opposing wideouts, the second most fantasy fantasy

853
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 2: points per game to opposing wideouts. And Douglas is coming

854
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: off a game where he ran a season high twenty

855
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: eight route season high eighty five percent route rate route

856
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: participation rate. Kendrick Bourne, who is playing really well as

857
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: their de facto number one out for the year, Parker

858
00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 2: concussion and he's been losing playing time anyway. Taekwon Thornton's

859
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 2: been a healthy scratch. Boute has been a healthy scratch

860
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 2: since Week one, and so Douglas really is no competition.

861
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 2: And he's had four more catches and forty or more

862
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 2: receiving yards in all three games where he's ran at

863
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:24,399
Speaker 2: least fifteen routes, and he's had twenty seven to twenty

864
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,959
Speaker 2: eight the last two and among one hundred wide receivers

865
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: got to run at least one hundred rounds this year.

866
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 2: Douglas already top twenty in target rate twenty four point

867
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 2: three percent. That is excellent. He's smacked dad between Mike

868
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,879
Speaker 2: Evans and Ceedee Lamb. So you know, obviously that will

869
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 2: regress as he gets more playing time, but he is

870
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:49,439
Speaker 2: I've I've thought he's been their best receiver for most

871
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: of the year. Now, Kendrick Bourne has had some big games,

872
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: so maybe we'll give Born the title for now, but

873
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of the year,

874
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 2: Pop is looked at as the Patriots top wide receiver.

875
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 2: And on a similar note, you know, this was something

876
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 2: I was saying in the preseason. I think Tank Dell

877
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: is Houston's top receiver. Now Nico Collins has been showing

878
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 2: out as well, but I mean, Tank Dell got to

879
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 2: be the second smoothest joker in the league after Tyreek Hill.

880
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: He just has some beautiful moves with the ball in

881
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,360
Speaker 2: his hands. They're giving him multiple carries in each of

882
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,439
Speaker 2: the last three games. Has been targeted on twenty percent

883
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: of his routes, so I have him inside my top

884
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 2: thirty because he came back to a ninety two percent

885
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 2: route participation rate last week and Robert Woods expected to

886
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 2: miss another week, so Dell is going to continue to

887
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 2: be on the field. And every healthy game after Week

888
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 2: one that Dell has played in, he's run more routes

889
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 2: than Nico Collins as well, So you know, Yiko has

890
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 2: been playing great, but Dell certainly has the opportunity and

891
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: the skills to start performing at just as high of

892
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: a level. And Tampa Bay top ten in zone coverage rate,

893
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: eighty eight percent of Dell's targets this year have come

894
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 2: against zone cover. No other Texan wide receiver more than

895
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 2: sixty seven percent of their targets against zone. And to

896
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 2: add to that, he's also get some cracks as a

897
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 2: punk returner, and he does have the moves to take

898
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:17,279
Speaker 2: onto the house and he's only fair caught four of

899
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 2: his twelve part returns, so he's not just out there

900
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,880
Speaker 2: to check the ball. He's trying to make moves with it.

901
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:25,239
Speaker 2: So love me some Tank Dell. I think it's only

902
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 2: a matter of time before these guys like you know, Mingo,

903
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:33,040
Speaker 2: Pop Douglas Tank Dell, you know, really start breaking out.

904
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: Remember a Monra a couple of years ago where we

905
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: kind of were on him and monitoring him, and then

906
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 2: it was just like one some somewhere in the middle

907
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: of the season, just you just never looked down. So

908
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 2: all three of these guys I think are candidates. So

909
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: you want to invest in these guys in anywhere possible,

910
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 2: you know, prop market. I think he is overs, you know,

911
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: for guys like this. I think that's the best time

912
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 2: to take overs with these rookies who you know, their

913
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 2: true baselines aren't necessarily established. So love me some Tank

914
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 2: down and let me some Pop Douglas this week. All right,

915
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: who you won?

916
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 3: I'm actually low on a couple of rookies.

917
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: The first one, unfortunately, is Poka Nakua against the Packers.

918
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: He's my wide receiver twenty seven ECR still probably using

919
00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford as the Rams quarterback has him wide receiver twelve.

920
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: But I'm obviously assuming Stafford is out here and we

921
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 1: will have Brett Rippan under center. That's gonna be just

922
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: a massive blow to the Rams offense. We saw Rippan

923
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: play in person. I'm sweat and I had over like

924
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: eighty and a half passing yards and he was gonna

925
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: play the entire first half, couldn't even do it.

926
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: He is terrible. You know, Cooper Cup.

927
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: And Pooka Mko might actually help make Rippin look like

928
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: a competent quarterback, but that won't help their fantasy value.

929
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: It's still really tough to project Nakua for maybe more

930
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 1: than five receptions, so plus Rippin seem much more willing

931
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: to actually throw the ball to Tyler Higbee, so we

932
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,960
Speaker 1: just might see targets a bit more spread out in

933
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: this offense, which is gonna hurt both Cup and Nakua.

934
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,879
Speaker 1: So I have Nikua more on the wide receiver two

935
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: free fringe as opposed to a low end wide receiver

936
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: one like usual. And unfortunately, the other rookie wide receiver

937
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: I'm low on is Jordan Addison against the Falcons at

938
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: wide receiver forty one. ECR has him wide receiver thirty six,

939
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 1: And yeah, he he was my favorite rookie receiver heading

940
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: into the season and he's been incredible. Definitely been taking

941
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: advantage of Justin Jefferson being out obviously, but you know,

942
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 1: if Kirk Cousin's done for the year, that's just a

943
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: massive blow to the Vikings offense, and Jaren Hall looks

944
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 1: like he's gonna start this week.

945
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: They just got Josh Dobbs. I don't think it matters.

946
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 1: I think either way, it's tough to project the Vikings

947
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: passing offense for more than like two hundred and ten

948
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: yards this week, so that's just going to be a

949
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:55,480
Speaker 1: clear drop off for Addison. Plus, you know he's gonna

950
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: get another hit when Justin Jefferson returns over the next

951
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: few weeks, so might be a good time. I think

952
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: maybe the seal high on Addison because you can only

953
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: go down from here. Love the talent, but this is

954
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: a really bad situation. So he's just outside my top

955
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: forty this week.

956
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, I'm almost it feels like he's like

957
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 2: a fade at your own risk these days. I mean

958
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 2: he's I haven't projected for like a quarter of I do,

959
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: haven't projected for under two hundred and ten passing yards,

960
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 2: but I have Addison projected for like a quarter of

961
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,439
Speaker 2: those yards, so I still have him inside my top,

962
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: inside my top forty. But yeah, it certainly is a

963
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 2: downgrade from Cousins, who's playing really well this season. I

964
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: am low on a couple of guys here. First is

965
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 2: Davante Smith. I have him as my wide receiver thirty two.

966
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 2: He's wide receiver thirteen in ECR and in the last

967
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: six weeks he's had a couple of top twenty four finishes,

968
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 2: but he's also had those sandwich by finishes of wide

969
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 2: receiver seventy one, wide receiver ninety nine, and two wide

970
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: receiver forty four. So this is something we talked about

971
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,480
Speaker 2: in the offseason. How when you have everyone healthy, especially Goddard,

972
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,680
Speaker 2: Smith has been a lot more boom bust. Dallas is

973
00:49:10,680 --> 00:49:13,680
Speaker 2: the main heaviest team in the NFL right now, and

974
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 2: Smith just one point three yards per route versus man

975
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 2: compared to one point seven versus zone. And A. J.

976
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 2: Brown's at four point three yards per route against man.

977
00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 2: So it's almost tripling up Smith here, and we've long

978
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 2: known that to be the case.

979
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 3: You know, A J.

980
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:31,240
Speaker 2: Brown is gonna I mean, he's dominating everything these days,

981
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 2: but generally Smith will take a back seat against these

982
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 2: kind of defenses. And it doesn't hurt that Dallas is

983
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 2: allowing the second fewest Fantasy points to wire receivers, the

984
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 2: fewest receptions per game to wide receivers the second fewest

985
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,880
Speaker 2: yards per game to wide receivers, So I think this

986
00:49:47,000 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: is one of those weeks where for a boom bust guy,

987
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 2: I think he's a little bit more like or a

988
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,279
Speaker 2: lot more likely to bust than boom this week. So

989
00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 2: I think there are better wide receiver two plays than

990
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 2: every you know, East yard still and ranked as a

991
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 2: high end wide receiver two. I just think that's I

992
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: think that's pushing it with such a volatile player.

993
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 3: Here.

994
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,359
Speaker 2: Another guy, Josh Palmer. You know, he had that great

995
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,359
Speaker 2: run four straight games where he finished no lower than

996
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,480
Speaker 2: wide receiver thirty seven, but that came to end last week.

997
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 2: He was the number seventy seven wide out, and I

998
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 2: don't think we should just expect him to bounce back

999
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 2: now just because you know he could be another week

1000
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 2: removed from the injury. I know he left the game

1001
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 2: at one point, but this Jets even great against wide receivers,

1002
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: allowing the fewest targets per game to wide receivers at

1003
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: just under fifteen, the fewest touchdowns to wire receivers just

1004
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 2: one on one hundred and four targets and seven hundred

1005
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:44,480
Speaker 2: and forty one routes faced This year, and the Jets

1006
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: are number one in DVOA against number two wide receivers,

1007
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: specifically allowing the fewest schedule adjusted targets per game to

1008
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:56,080
Speaker 2: number two wide receivers the fewest schedule adjusted yards per

1009
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 2: game to number two wide receivers. And that's because you

1010
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:04,000
Speaker 2: have DJ Reid, who's top ten at PFF sas Gardner,

1011
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 2: who's eleventh at PFF out of over one hundred cornerbacks

1012
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: in PFF grade. And you have Palmer, who, unlike Keenan Allen,

1013
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: is not really escaping those guys to the slot. Palmer's

1014
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: seventy percent of his snaps are out wide, and you

1015
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: know Allen Keenan Allen is gonna take most of those

1016
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,520
Speaker 2: slot snaps for the charges. So blow on Palmer. He's

1017
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 2: my wide receiver thirty eight. He's thirty two in ECR

1018
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 2: and one more guy. Uh. Most people probably won't be

1019
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 2: thinking of starting him, but I'm still perplexed to see

1020
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 2: just how high he was an expert consensus rank to

1021
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 2: open the week, and that's Michael Gallup. He is the

1022
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:45,400
Speaker 2: wide receiver number forty six in ECR. He's my wide

1023
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 2: receiver sixty three. Last week he ran twenty one routes.

1024
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 2: So Jay went Tolbert's eighteen. And I know it was

1025
00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 2: a blowout, but uh, this is that's a concern coming

1026
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 2: off the buy because Dallas, you know, they kept going

1027
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: and they kept kind of pouring it on and Gallop

1028
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 2: fifty one percent route participation Tobert forty four percent. And

1029
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 2: that's something that you know, a lot of people that

1030
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 2: follow the team are kind of calling for because Gallup

1031
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 2: has really struggled this year to gain separation and hasn't

1032
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 2: really looked fully back from that injury, even though he

1033
00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 2: you know, in obviously he said he was. He's failed

1034
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: the top twenty five receiving yards in all but two

1035
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 2: games this year. He's been the wide receiver sixty seven

1036
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: or worse in five out of his seven games played

1037
00:52:26,719 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 2: this year. So I you know, Michael Gallat needs to

1038
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,560
Speaker 2: get out of that top fifty and quick agree.

1039
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you.

1040
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: On Devonte Smith, I was like minus ten or lower

1041
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: against he's here last week. Of course, got burned. He

1042
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: just blew up. But again I'm over or I'm under

1043
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: ten slots again on him this week. He just got

1044
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: to stick with it. Like you mentioned, like he's he's

1045
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 1: been pretty erratic. Obviously the blowout games are gonna come,

1046
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: but he has a much much lower floor than people

1047
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: we're obviously hoping for, drafting him almost as like a

1048
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: wide receiver one, uh, you know in August.

1049
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's with Jaymonen Hurt's putting up gret passing

1050
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: numbers volume wise, but it's a J.

1051
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:08,760
Speaker 3: Brown is just observed.

1052
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 2: I mean, man, there's some fun guys to watch right now,

1053
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, a J. Brown right at the top of

1054
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: that list. We're going for the proper Uh.

1055
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: So I'm actually taking both of the guys that are

1056
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: low on combining them together. Who's gonna have more receiving

1057
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,160
Speaker 1: yards out of these two guys, assuming Matthew Stafford is out,

1058
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:28,839
Speaker 1: Davante Smith.

1059
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 2: Or oh that's a good one.

1060
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: Good luck with this one. I couldn't pick. So I'm

1061
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 3: gonna let you decide.

1062
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my projections right now just to get

1063
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 2: a SENSU and.

1064
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:43,879
Speaker 1: You have Stafford out completely yeah, hual help, Okay, I do.

1065
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 2: I will say I do have Ripping projected probably one

1066
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,560
Speaker 2: of the better backups in terms of yardage because I

1067
00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 2: feel like he just kind of lets it rip and

1068
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 2: he'll throw a ton of interception. Yeah right, I am

1069
00:53:57,200 --> 00:54:01,280
Speaker 2: going with you said more yardage, Yeah, just for saving yards.

1070
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:03,399
Speaker 2: Do we have a favorite or like.

1071
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: I'll make Smith, No, No, it's just to pick him if.

1072
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 2: All right, I'll go into Coula because I have him

1073
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 2: about five yards over still, because I think what it

1074
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: is is you have you know, Cowboys obviously great defense,

1075
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:27,320
Speaker 2: great against wide receivers, and the scheme favors Brown not Smith.

1076
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 2: But uh, you know this Green Bay defense just traded

1077
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 2: Russell Douglas. I believe it was, so you know, they're

1078
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 2: they're kind of in cell mode on the defense. I

1079
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: think you know Jai Are he'll probably see some time

1080
00:54:42,239 --> 00:54:45,040
Speaker 2: on the Kula and sometime on Cup and you know,

1081
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 2: maybe even more on the cool. But I just think

1082
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 2: this Green Bay defense is a little bit more exploitable

1083
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 2: than Dallas. So I'm gonna have to go na Kouwa

1084
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 2: here and and hope Brett Rippons just kind of balls

1085
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: to the wall, doesn't really care. Just you know that's

1086
00:54:59,280 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 2: what he does.

1087
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 3: I agree.

1088
00:55:01,280 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: I think the thing I'm leaning on here is Higbee's

1089
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 1: target share going out just a little bit.

1090
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 3: You know, Rippin was targeting pretty.

1091
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: Heavily, and I feel like Higbee always goes off once

1092
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: everybody's off him, myself included.

1093
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 3: And there's times.

1094
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: Where you know, I remember, like right as the season

1095
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:23,080
Speaker 1: was about to start, I think we were both ranking

1096
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,760
Speaker 1: him inside of our top ten and then he busted.

1097
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 3: He's just impossible project.

1098
00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: So now that he's off everyone's radar, it would not

1099
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 1: shock me if all of a sudden he has a

1100
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 1: good game. But that's just the thing with with like

1101
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: a backup quarterback coming in, it can just mess up

1102
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 1: the target distribution. You know, it probably won't be the same,

1103
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 1: so it could be a little bit more spread out.

1104
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,360
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where I'm going with this. So

1105
00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,560
Speaker 1: I'll take DeVonta Smith here. I'm fine with that.

1106
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to tight ends.

1107
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 3: Top five.

1108
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: My top five Travis Kelcey, Mark Andrews, Jake Ferguson, TJ Hawkins,

1109
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: and Darren Well. Get Darren Waller out of there. I'm

1110
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: gonna go with Dalton Kin. Caid is tight end five.

1111
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:05,400
Speaker 3: That's more fun, that's hilarious.

1112
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, fergus is my tight end six, So I can't,

1113
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:15,160
Speaker 2: but I do have Yeah, Kelsey, Andrews, Hockinson, Kincaid and

1114
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: god it is in my top five. So yeah, pretty

1115
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:20,359
Speaker 2: standard for me. Who you are?

1116
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,600
Speaker 3: Where's Where's where do you have Taysom Hill? Real quick?

1117
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 2: A good question.

1118
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:26,760
Speaker 1: He's gotta be top ten now, like this is ridiculous

1119
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: tight end seven Yeah, okay, yep, it's Taysom Hill season.

1120
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 3: Yes there all right?

1121
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, if you can't tell, I'm high on Jake Ferguson,

1122
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: He's my tight end three. You know, I actually mentioned

1123
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,840
Speaker 1: last week in my streamers piece it was a historic

1124
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:50,600
Speaker 1: week for streaming tight ends. I was saying, there's four

1125
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: legit potential rest of season tight end ones available. I

1126
00:56:55,600 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: believe it was Taysom Hill, Dalton Kincaid, Jake fergus and

1127
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: Trey McBride.

1128
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So like they.

1129
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,279
Speaker 1: All had, they all had the reasons why you would

1130
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: add them in your specific league. I dubbed Ferguson as

1131
00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: the best long term investment. I think he had the

1132
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: best chances of being you know, tight end one for

1133
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: the rest of the season.

1134
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:17,920
Speaker 3: I think they all do. Actually, but.

1135
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,240
Speaker 1: Assuming when you know, Peyton Hendershuck comes back, he's not

1136
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: gonna eat into his role too much, he could absolutely

1137
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,360
Speaker 1: be you know, Dalton Schultz maybe even better.

1138
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 3: The rest of the season.

1139
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: So last week he had a great you know, four

1140
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 1: catch forty seven yard touchdown game back to back games

1141
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: now of eighty five percent or more, you know, routes

1142
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: run rate, but his target has taken a pretty big hit.

1143
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 1: So assuming his target rate goes back up, probably not

1144
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: to what we saw earlier in the season, but just

1145
00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: goes up, you know, he has massive upside. Uh, and

1146
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,160
Speaker 1: this is a good matchup. You know, the Eagles ranked

1147
00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 1: dead last and DBO against tight ends. You know, they've

1148
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 1: faced a very easy schedule, so they're more a maid

1149
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: of a pack when you look at just raw fantasy

1150
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: points allowed. But whenever they've faced the competent tight end,

1151
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: they've they've given up pretty good scores. You know, Logan

1152
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: Thomas went off for six catches, forty four years and

1153
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,880
Speaker 1: a tudy last week against them. So yeah, right now

1154
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 1: I view Ferguson as a top three tight end this week.

1155
00:58:20,200 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have Speaking of Logan Thomas, I am high

1156
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 2: on the Thomas he Uh, he is my tight end nine.

1157
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 2: He's tightened eleven in exprat consensus. I do have him

1158
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,720
Speaker 2: as a top ten option this week. New England thirty first,

1159
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,800
Speaker 2: so almost as bad as as Philly and Dvoa against

1160
00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,520
Speaker 2: tight ends and Thomas has forty plus yards and or

1161
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 2: a touchdown in all but one of his seven games

1162
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 2: played this year. And Thomas, you know, you talk about

1163
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: rest of season. So Thomas is tight end seven in

1164
00:58:50,040 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 2: half PBR, tighten eight in PBR. But kittles on by

1165
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 2: Laporte is on by Ingram's on by so Logan Thomas

1166
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 2: is a top five tight end on the week nine

1167
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 2: slate at least, and you know going forward he's going

1168
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: to have a shot too to be one of those

1169
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 2: you know, top ten rest of the season tight ends

1170
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: because it seems like Sam Howe is targeting him like

1171
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 2: he was, you know in that breakout season a few

1172
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 2: years ago when he was on WAHT who I believe

1173
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 2: it was Alex Smith or Heinike whoever it was that

1174
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 2: quarterback for the for the Commanders that year. You know,

1175
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 2: Thomas broke out and he's having you know, he's right

1176
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: there week in week out, you know, putting up you know,

1177
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 2: similar cat reception numbers to Terry and and uh and

1178
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: Dotson and Samuel. So like the matchup and like the

1179
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 2: volume for Logan Thomas.

1180
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, and this.

1181
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: I mean this offense under Eric b Enemy's way more

1182
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: pass heavy. They're starting the fire selling their defense. Uh

1183
00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: so they're just going to be a very past heavy

1184
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: team going forward. And you know he's technically playing the

1185
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce role in Enemy's offense. So yeah, I definitely

1186
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: think he's another one of those tight ends where they

1187
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: every year, you know, just you can always add a

1188
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: tight end in season that ends up being like a

1189
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 1: top ten tight end, and Logan Thomas is one of

1190
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:04,040
Speaker 1: those guys.

1191
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: Ah who you are?

1192
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: Well, you know I was very high on Trim McBride

1193
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: last week. I am low on him this week. I

1194
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: guess I'm being a little bit nitpicky. I have him

1195
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:16,360
Speaker 1: as my tight end eleven, his ECRs tight end eight.

1196
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: But there's only so many guys to pick from.

1197
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,320
Speaker 3: But you know, he had that.

1198
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 1: Massive ten catch, ninety five yard touchdown game last week,

1199
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:29,000
Speaker 1: and you know, my comp for him entering the NFL

1200
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: was like a lesser version of Dallas Goddard. So it's

1201
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: been fitting to see him be held back by zach

1202
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 1: Ertz for the first couple seasons. So as long as

1203
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 1: zach Ertz is out, you know he has top ten upside. However,

1204
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: this week, you know, this is a brutal matchup against

1205
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 1: the Browns just in general, but they rank second in

1206
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 1: DBO against tight ends, and we don't really know who's

1207
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,800
Speaker 1: going to be the quarterback this week. If it's Clayton Tune,

1208
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna hurt McBride. You know, he might

1209
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: drop outside of my top twelve. If Kyler Murray ends

1210
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: up making his season debut, maybe he ends up back

1211
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,800
Speaker 1: in my top ten, so that there's some uncertainty there.

1212
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 1: But going forward, you know, just have to wonder if

1213
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: and win zach Ertz does return, if that's going to

1214
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: eat into his role at all. I think at this

1215
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 1: point they just have to use McBride as the lead

1216
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,600
Speaker 1: tight end, but just keep an eye on that that

1217
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: once Earth's returns, it could make McBride more of a

1218
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:25,600
Speaker 1: high end tight end too. But yeah, this week I'm

1219
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 1: just a little bit lower on him than ECR.

1220
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1221
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 2: No, it's it's a brutal matchup, you know, it makes

1222
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: makes sense. But at least he's getting you know, pretty

1223
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: much all of the snaps, which you always like to

1224
01:01:36,200 --> 01:01:38,640
Speaker 2: see because that is rare for Titans. I think his

1225
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 2: route participation rate was eighty eight percent, So yeah, because

1226
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: of that working for him, but tough, tough matchup, and yeah,

1227
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,160
Speaker 2: I'm lower than the CRS. Well i'm lower also on

1228
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:53,120
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts. This week you have, you know, obviously some

1229
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: quarterback issues as well with the Falcons, even though there's

1230
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 2: not you know, no one's I don't know, maybe Ritter

1231
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 2: was hurt, who knows, but hasn't been playing well, so

1232
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:04,320
Speaker 2: you might go to Heineke and who knows how it's

1233
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: gonna affect everything, But you are facing a Viking defense

1234
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 2: that's held five of the eight tight ends. It's face

1235
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:16,200
Speaker 2: to five or fewer half PPR points, and the Vikings

1236
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 2: are allowing the tie for fourth fewest receiving yards per

1237
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:22,800
Speaker 2: game to tight ends at just over thirty six. And

1238
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,640
Speaker 2: that's despite facing Kelsey Kittle, Geyert and Koco met Already,

1239
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 2: Kyle Pitts has seen a decline in the usage, even

1240
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: though he did have a couple of good games within

1241
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 2: the past month. The first month of the year, he

1242
01:02:37,400 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 2: was running route on eighty nine percent of Falcon dropbacks.

1243
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 2: Over the last four games, that number has gone down

1244
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 2: to sixty six, and it's been a consistent sixty six,

1245
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,040
Speaker 2: not like you know, ninety one game and then way

1246
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,160
Speaker 2: down and then back up. It's been you know, in

1247
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: the six mid sixties pretty much week in week out,

1248
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 2: and you know, with tight ends, the fewer routes you run,

1249
01:02:57,600 --> 01:03:00,960
Speaker 2: especially on a team that is favored and you know,

1250
01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 2: really doesn't like to pass if they don't have to.

1251
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 2: This could get ugly for Kyle Pitts. He's finished as

1252
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 2: a top fifteen tight end and only two of his

1253
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: eight games this year. So another guy similar to Devonte Smith,

1254
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 2: where we know the ceiling is high and he could

1255
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 2: obviously hit a seiing any given week. You know, maybe

1256
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 2: if Drake London is that, I think more people you know,

1257
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: get behind that. But then you if Drake London is out,

1258
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: then you could just concentrate more of the defensive attention

1259
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 2: on Pits. So I don't like it either way. So

1260
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 2: fading Pits, he's my tight end thirteen, and he's a

1261
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:37,960
Speaker 2: tight end seven in ECR. I guess kind of anticipating

1262
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:40,880
Speaker 2: London sitting out, but I think that's too I've just

1263
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 2: given the recent his recent route participation rate.

1264
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: Franklin, Yeah, I can't imagine ranking him seventh. I mean,

1265
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 1: you got like even though I'm low McBride, I would

1266
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: play him over Pitts Logan Thomas obviously. I mean just

1267
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: a bizarre ranking. Yeah, so I have Pits tight end

1268
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: fourteen as always. You know, I have John new Smith

1269
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 1: not far behind. I'm sure people that draft the Kyle

1270
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 1: Pits love the fact that John new Smith is basically

1271
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:10,280
Speaker 1: on par with him every week.

1272
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's just us. Yeah, I've pitched thirteen Smith fourteen.

1273
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:20,080
Speaker 2: So that's where we are. But here's another another fringe

1274
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,160
Speaker 2: guy that for the prop I want to set a

1275
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,520
Speaker 2: line on, and that's Luke Musgrave. He's been kind of

1276
01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 2: quiet after he had some hype, but he's right around

1277
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 2: that fringe where, you know, I think some people would

1278
01:04:33,640 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: consider maybe starting him over a guy like Cole Pits.

1279
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 2: So let's go to his receiving yards against the Rams,

1280
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:44,200
Speaker 2: who haven't been great against tight ends. I'm gonna go

1281
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 2: with thirty three and a half.

1282
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 3: Ooh, I had twenty nine and a half.

1283
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:56,120
Speaker 1: I thought you, well, I think you want me to

1284
01:04:56,280 --> 01:05:00,600
Speaker 1: take the under. I know you want the over. I

1285
01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:03,479
Speaker 1: know last week, you know he was banged up, could

1286
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: have been the main reason. You know, he's a low

1287
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Speaker 1: target rate that's a good line. I'll give it to you.

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Speaker 1: I'll take the under here, I'll let you have the over.

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Speaker 1: I know that's what you're trying to do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said a couple couple of yards high than like,

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Speaker 2: if I was posted as a book, I would probably

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Speaker 2: put like an even thirty and a half honestly, So

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Speaker 2: twenty nine and a half was right right there. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but I do think he's in play. You know, there's

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Speaker 2: kind of a glut of guys in at top fifteen

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Speaker 2: or just outside it, you know, Daunton Shultz another one. Like,

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Speaker 2: there's a glut of these guys, so it's gonna be

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Speaker 2: our ranks as the week progresses. But yeah, right now

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Speaker 2: I have him right on that fringe, and I'm glad

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Speaker 2: we take that over. But that's gonna do it. For

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