1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: You're listening to the Freeway Phanom, a production of iHeartRadio, 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:07,840 Speaker 1: Tenderfoot TV, and black bar Mitzvah. The views and opinions 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: expressed in this podcast are solely those of the podcast 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: author or individuals participating in the podcast, and do not 5 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: represent those of iHeartMedia, Tenderfoot TV, Black bar Mitzvah, or 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: their employees. This podcast also contains subject matter that may 7 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: not be suitable for everyone. Listener discretion is advised. 8 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:36,360 Speaker 2: Prior to these killings start happenings, Freeway fan, you didn't 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 2: hear a lot of killings of black kids per se 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: in the district of Columbia, and not like that that 11 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 2: one behind of a behind of an unresult. You didn't 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: hear that. So the community was in shock and it 13 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: put them on caution. People were scared. I mean parents 14 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: were scared, children were scared. They wanted to know what 15 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 2: more police could do. What were they doing? All that 16 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 2: conversation was coming up, People were keeping an EyeT on things, 17 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 2: anything that may have seen unusual. People were more visual 18 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 2: I think during that time because it was hitting close 19 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 2: to home, right in the community, close especially over here. 20 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 2: I'm Derek Davis, I'm co owner of Davis. Barbara Service 21 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,319 Speaker 2: Uh been here fifty three years, right here in the 22 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: same location. I was actually in high school myself in 23 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 2: seventy two. I was in eleventh grade, so it was 24 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 2: close in that regard because the girl that went blue 25 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 2: was in the eleventh grade too, with the girl named Denise, 26 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: even though I didn't personally know her. A lot of 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 2: this the kids, you know, they came down and get 28 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 2: the haircut at the shop, were talking about it and 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 2: how they were, you know, depressed or saddened about what 30 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 2: had happened to her. And then a lot of the 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 2: customers had talked about it in terms of, you know, 32 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 2: the crime going on in the city. 33 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 3: And how they couldn't test this person. So it was 34 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 3: a Saturday for DC. I do know that, but you 35 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: don't really want to know what somebody was telling me 36 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 3: the other date, Lord BERSI woo. They were giving me 37 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 3: some deep stuff about this phantom stuff where if some 38 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: people that was close to that person's family may have 39 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 3: been tied up into that, and possibility it. 40 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 2: Could have been a police officer involved. 41 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 3: I said, do you want to go on record with that? 42 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 4: Now? 43 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 3: I don't know how true that is, but the way 44 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 3: she was laying that out, said you need to come 45 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: on camera and say what you got to say. 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: But they won't talk. They're not gonna tell the police. 47 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 2: They're not gonna tell the camera, the media. They're not 48 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 2: gonna do it. 49 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 4: The homicide detectives termed the cases the little girl case. 50 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 4: This child was laying on the side of the road. 51 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: I won't go no way. 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 3: I would call my house. 53 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 5: Those first five murders should have been a huge warning 54 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 5: bell for the police. 55 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:22,399 Speaker 6: We just want to know what happened. This person must 56 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 6: have saw that. 57 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 4: They were thinking that maybe it's just one person, and 58 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 4: he says, they need to know. 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 7: This is me. 60 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 8: I thought that they would catch him. 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 9: I thought it was just a. 62 00:03:32,520 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 10: Matter of time. 63 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 7: I'm Celeste Hedley and this is Freeway Phantom. On the 64 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 7: last episode, we covered the background of the Freeway Phantom murders. 65 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 7: Six victims, all young black girls, all of them snatched 66 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 7: off the streets of Washington, d C. Between April nineteen 67 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:57,440 Speaker 7: seventy one and September nineteen seventy two. Their bodies were 68 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 7: all dumped by the side of the freeway. And we 69 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 7: know that all six murders were committed by the same 70 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 7: person and never solved. The first victim was thirteen year 71 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 7: old Carol Spinks, who went missing on April twenty fifth, 72 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 7: nineteen seventy one. In episode one, we heard from Carrol's sisters, 73 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 7: Carolyn and Evander as they described the horror of losing 74 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 7: their sister. Today, we'll dig into what happened after Carol 75 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 7: was found, or at the least what we know from 76 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 7: the official investigation. As you heard last episode, we were 77 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 7: able to obtain the official police report. Here's what it 78 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 7: said about Carol's known whereabouts leading up to the murder. 79 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 9: Sunday, April twenty fifth, nineteen seventy one, at round seven pm, 80 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 9: Carol Denise Spink's female black thirteen years of age, was 81 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 9: sent to the seven to eleven store located on Wheeler 82 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 9: Road and Southern Avenue. She was last seen in the 83 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 9: vicinity of Wheeler and Southern Avenue by her mother, at 84 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 9: which time she was reprimanded for being out of the house. 85 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 9: Her older sister had sent her to the store. Later 86 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 9: the same day, she was reported missing by her mother 87 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 9: to the sixth District Police. 88 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 7: It wouldn't be until almost a week later that Carrol 89 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 7: Spinks's body was found. Here's another excerpt from the police report. 90 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 9: On Saturday May one, nineteen seventy one, Carol Denise Spinks 91 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:26,799 Speaker 9: was found in the grass area of the northbound lane 92 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 9: of Route two ninety five near Suitland Parkway by children playing. 93 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 9: The children hailed a Traffic division officer who was traveling 94 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 9: north on Route two ninety. 95 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 7: Five now known as Interstate two ninety five or the 96 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 7: Anacostia Freeway. The road was a major thoroughfare which cut 97 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 7: right through the city. As we heard, the police report says, 98 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 7: some children playing near the highway spotted the body and 99 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 7: then one of them either called or flagged down a 100 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 7: police officer. Here's how the report describes Carroll's body at 101 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 7: the scene. 102 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 9: Tennis usemissy cold to the touch, rigor evident in the 103 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 9: right knee and left arm. Dried blood around the nose 104 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 9: and mouth, right arm across the chest and left bent 105 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 9: under the torso. Grass embedded in left leg and thigh. 106 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 9: Crushed cardboard, milk carton pressed against the area of the 107 00:06:18,760 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 9: right eye. Laceration to lower lip, several marks on body, throat, knees, 108 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 9: and arms. 109 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 7: Aside from her missing shoes, Carol was fully clothed. In 110 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 7: one handwritten note by a police officer. It was said 111 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 7: that her second and third snap on pants buttons were unfastened. 112 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 7: Preliminary testing showed Carol had blood under her fingernails, but 113 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 7: the amount was too small for any conclusive testing or grouping. 114 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 7: No seamen was found anywhere on her body. However, the 115 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 7: police did find negroid hairs unlike her own, on her shorts, 116 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 7: sweater panties, and hair burrett and also on her sweater 117 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 7: and underwear. Investigators found some mysterious synthetic green fibers. 118 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 11: She did have a ligature mark on her some small 119 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 11: crescent shape marks on cyber neck that indicated it could 120 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 11: have been somebody who was strangling her. Her nose was bloodied, 121 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 11: her lower lip was split open, and she had been sodomized. 122 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 7: That's writer Blaine Pardo, who investigated and co wrote a 123 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 7: book on the Freeway Phantom murders. 124 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 11: What is really interesting about Carol Spinkx that I think 125 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 11: is the creepiest factor of hers despite the gruesomeness of 126 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 11: how she died, was that she had been kept alive 127 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 11: for at least three days according to the authorities. You know, 128 00:07:41,600 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 11: she had only been dead for two days, and they 129 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 11: actually found that her murderer had fed her. They had 130 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 11: given her citrus screw during that period, So whoever the 131 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 11: killer was, it wasn't just a matter of kidnapping the girl, 132 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 11: taking her to his place where he was going to 133 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 11: do what he was going to do, dumping the body. 134 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 11: He kept her for several days as a prisoner. It 135 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,120 Speaker 11: tells you a lot about the killer because it tells you, 136 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 11: you know, he had to have a place where you 137 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 11: could do that, He had to have the means of 138 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 11: doing it. She didn't have any marks where it looked 139 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 11: like she was tied up, so how did he keep her? 140 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 11: It really gets you start thinking a little bit about 141 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 11: the environment that she had to have or the killer 142 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 11: had to have in order to keep her as a hostage. 143 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 7: Police also interviewed a number of potential witnesses, including seventeen 144 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,320 Speaker 7: year old Vanessa Alice Copeland, who was near the seven 145 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 7: eleven the day Carol went missing. Copeland said that between 146 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:39,559 Speaker 7: three point thirty and four pm, she saw a man 147 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 7: exposing himself in a burned out building by the store. 148 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 7: She also saw Carol walking behind her towards the Maryland 149 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 7: state line, but when she looked back a minute later, 150 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 7: Carol was gone. Another witness, twelve year old Cecilia Edith Diggs, 151 00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,760 Speaker 7: says she saw Carol in the seven eleven parking lot 152 00:08:57,800 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 7: that day between six thirty and seven pm with a 153 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 7: girl named Deborah Harrison. Diggs was riding passenger in a 154 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 7: car going north on Wheeler Road. While sitting at the 155 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 7: traffic light on Wheeler and Mississippi, she claims to have 156 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 7: seen two men, both black, jump out of a car 157 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 7: to grab Carol and put her in the car. Then 158 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 7: the car went south on Wheeler. The police then interviewed 159 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 7: Deborah Harrison, the seventeen year old reportedly with Carol at 160 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,959 Speaker 7: the seven eleven. Harrison said that she walked with Carroll 161 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 7: to the store, but left without her. When she was 162 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 7: leaving the store, she looked back and noticed that Carol 163 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 7: was walking towards a burned out building near the store, 164 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 7: and this, she says, is the last time she saw Carol. 165 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 7: But then Harrison says that the next day the phone 166 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 7: started ringing at her home and when she picked up 167 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 7: the line, she heard a man's voice. Harrison would say 168 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 7: that at the time she didn't know Carol was missing 169 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 7: or who had called her. Lastly, police interviewed Dorothy Wheeler, 170 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 7: who'd helped organize a search party for Carol. Wheeler told 171 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 7: police she also received threatening phone calls from a mail 172 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 7: with a deep voice, and then Wheeler says she started 173 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 7: receiving letters at work, one of which said the following. 174 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 12: You have daughters and if you don't want them raped and. 175 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:25,959 Speaker 5: Dropped on the side of the road, you'll keep your 176 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: nose out of this. 177 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 7: The police report says these letters were handed to investigators, 178 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,959 Speaker 7: but there's no record of the notes themselves, and some 179 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:38,239 Speaker 7: believe that the testimony of Wheeler and the other witnesses 180 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 7: were not credible. 181 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 4: You follow a lead until it takes you no way, 182 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 4: and they got all kinds of leads. 183 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 6: I mean, everybody was a suspect. 184 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 7: This is retired Metropolitan Police Department Sergeant Romainne Jenkins, who 185 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 7: you met in episode one. She investigated the Freeway Phantom murders. 186 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 7: Years after the case went At the time of Carol's murder, 187 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 7: she was assigned to work elsewhere, but she remembers hearing 188 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 7: about the investigation. 189 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:11,679 Speaker 4: Everybody became a suspect because people were calling in tips, 190 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: and sometimes the information that people phoned in would lead 191 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 4: you on a merry ghost chase, you know so, but 192 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 4: you had to follow the lead until you couldn't follow 193 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: it anymore. And then some of the people eventually admitted 194 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 4: that they lied. They never saw the girls being abducted 195 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 4: or anything that they lied. 196 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 7: Romayne fully believes that those witness statements for Carol were 197 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 7: completely false and that might explain why investigators made no 198 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 7: progress with those leads. Eventually, there was an autopsy. According 199 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 7: to the autopsy reports, they collected specimens from pubic hair, 200 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 7: vaginal spears, rectal smears, and stomach contents. But remember this 201 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 7: was pre DNA technology, so at the time police had 202 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 7: no way of making connections through those specimens, and so 203 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:04,120 Speaker 7: the police ran out of leeds and thus Carol's case 204 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 7: went cold. But many believed the police could have done 205 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 7: more and chose not to. Here again is Evander Spinks, 206 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 7: the older sister of Carol Spinks. 207 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 13: As a young teenager, I don't think the police did 208 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 13: a good job. I didn't feel as though they actually 209 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 13: cared during that time, and as an adult, I know 210 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 13: they didn't do a good job and I know down 211 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 13: where they didn't care. 212 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 7: Romayne believes this may have been due to a disconnect 213 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 7: between white officers and the black communities in and around DC. 214 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 4: People bring their own prejudices and biases to the job. 215 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 4: I read information in the files with some of the detectives. 216 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 4: The white ones said, well, they wore tight clothes that 217 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: Carl Spinx had on tight clothes Carl Spring had on 218 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 4: DC Public School Jim Shorts. If you know anything about 219 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: DC Public School Jim Shorts, they balloon out, ain't nothing 220 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: tight about them Shorts, instead of reviewing the whole case. 221 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 4: And that's the number one problem most on these tasks force. 222 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 4: They are given assignments to do. Look, I want you 223 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 4: to cover the forty nine hundred block of C Street, 224 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 4: I want you to cover fourteenth in you and you 225 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 4: give an assignment and that's what you do. 226 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 6: You have no idea what the other. 227 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 4: Nine hundred and ninety nine pages in this investigation has revealed. Okay, 228 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 4: but see, I'm not like that. I'm going to read 229 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 4: everything I was taught. If you want to know something, 230 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 4: you must read it. There's nothing that you don't know 231 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 4: that you can't find out isn't written somewhere. So I 232 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 4: read everything and sad to say, they didn't have a 233 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: female on the team. 234 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 7: Romayne believes there may have been some wilful neglect when 235 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 7: it came to investigating Carroll's murder, and she wasn't the 236 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 7: only one. 237 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 14: When the first victims went missing, there was a really 238 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 14: kind of a muted police response. 239 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,679 Speaker 7: This is Jim Trenham, a retired detective from the Metropolitan 240 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 7: Police Department. 241 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 14: But also during that time, there just wasn't the attention 242 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 14: that was being paid, especially when these girls haven't been 243 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 14: found yet. You know of just a young black girl runaway, 244 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 14: or she probably at a relative's house, you know that 245 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 14: sort of thing. There wasn't the full court press that 246 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 14: you would often see with a John Benet Ramsey or 247 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 14: something along that line. 248 00:14:38,840 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 6: You know. 249 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 14: To be honest, that's unfortunately, has been a fact of 250 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 14: life for god knows hundreds of years, but even today. 251 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 7: Jim started reviewing the case when he launched an initiative 252 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 7: called the Violent Crime Case Review Project. 253 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 14: Our goal was to go back and look at old 254 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 14: homicide cases to see if we could take advantage of 255 00:15:00,800 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 14: any the new technology that was coming out, such as DNA. 256 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 14: And as I was doing so, I was pulling these 257 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 14: case files up and looking at them, I kept hearing 258 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 14: about this one case that was kind of a legend 259 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 14: in DC back in the seventies, and that was referred 260 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,040 Speaker 14: to as the Freeway Phantom case. So one of my 261 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 14: first goals was to see what I could find on 262 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 14: that case, what evidence was available, and could we take 263 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 14: advantage of especially DNA technology today. 264 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 7: Jim says he quickly realized that the original investigators did 265 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 7: a subpar job of maintaining documents and preserving the evidence. 266 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 14: When we first started looking at the Freeway Phantom case, 267 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 14: the most frustrating thing was that just about all of 268 00:15:47,920 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 14: the files were gone. We didn't really have anything, and 269 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 14: so we were trying to dig up whatever we could 270 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 14: through newspaper accounts and things like that. The other frustrating 271 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 14: thing is as we were going going through the evidence 272 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 14: in all we were finding out that the evidence was 273 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 14: also missing, not only in DC but also in PG County, 274 00:16:09,880 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 14: And in fact, the PG County detectives who had done 275 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 14: their own independent re examination of some of the cases, 276 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 14: had only found evidence in one and that was evidence 277 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 14: that having kept at the medical examiner's office. When the 278 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 14: medical examiner back then would do a sexual assault kit 279 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 14: on a body, they would take the swabs and they 280 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 14: would smear them on a slide, look at the slide 281 00:16:36,360 --> 00:16:39,240 Speaker 14: and see whether or not there was any sperm visible, 282 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 14: and if it was, they would send the kit over 283 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 14: to the FBI or to whatever lab they were using 284 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 14: at the time. But they kept the slide, and so 285 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 14: in one case they actually found the slide, they sent 286 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 14: it in for testing, hoping that it had enough on 287 00:16:55,120 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 14: there to extract a suspect profile. However, at that time 288 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,919 Speaker 14: DNA testing wasn't as advanced as it is now, and 289 00:17:05,080 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 14: unfortunately they used up all of the sample and they 290 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 14: were not able to get a useful. 291 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,360 Speaker 7: Profile, and so any hope of finding Carol's killer through 292 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 7: DNA was officially lost. Anything the seven eleven used to be, 293 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 7: it was only a point two miles of the whole 294 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 7: point two yet, yeah, that was probably right at the book. 295 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 5: Right at the corner. 296 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 7: I was curious to see the neighborhood where Carrol Spinks 297 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 7: lived last summer. I found where the Spinx house used 298 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 7: to be, and I brought along my producers, Jamie and Tremors. 299 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,080 Speaker 7: As of letting my fid, I. 300 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 11: Wanted to hide street. 301 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 7: Today, I wouldn't hide it. I would absolutely send my child. 302 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: He was a tired squirrel. 303 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 7: The complex where the Sphinx family lived was torn down 304 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,200 Speaker 7: decades ago. Today the neighborhood is densely populated, yet quiet, 305 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 7: single family houses, duplexes, and row homes with narrow, tidy 306 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 7: lawns out front. There's a mix of old and newer buildings. 307 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 7: When the weather is nice, people still sit outside of 308 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 7: their homes and watch the activity on the streets. The 309 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 7: Congress Heights neighborhood is still overwhelmingly black, but like so 310 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 7: many urban neighborhoods in the twenty first century, there's surely 311 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 7: been some gentrification since the nineteen seventies. Back then, this 312 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 7: was a working class, tight knit black community. Tell us 313 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 7: what you remember about that particular time, Derek, Oh. 314 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 2: I thought it was more family or Yeah. 315 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 7: This is Derek Davis, who's run a barber shop in 316 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,680 Speaker 7: the neighborhood for decades. You heard from him at the 317 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 7: very top of this episode. Also sitting down with us 318 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 7: is his friend, Reverend Anthony Motley. 319 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 2: They called us Chocolate City, Chocolate City, the Bump Parliament, 320 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: Funker delic. I mean, we had to go black leadership, 321 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 2: black superintendent, black police, black city councils, black mayor. 322 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,080 Speaker 8: We had a lot of pride in the day. Back 323 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 8: in the day, we were from DC. You know, it 324 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 8: wasn't a knock on DC. It was you from DC. 325 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 4: Man. 326 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 8: You must be you know, you must be on the ball. 327 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 2: Right, you know. There were a lot of bustling businesses 328 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: we had in the total Ward eight. I think we 329 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 2: probably had about maybe five movie. 330 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 3: Theaters that we no longer have even won. 331 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: We used to have a roller skating ring. Things kids could. 332 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: Do, had boys club, bowling alley right, boys club, girls club. 333 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 3: We had all these type of activities. 334 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 15: Sit down restaurants, sit down restaurants. Yeah, we had all 335 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,400 Speaker 15: those things, restaurants. It was really community oriented. I mean 336 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 15: people were friendlier, they helped out. Did it seem like 337 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 15: a lot of anger like sometimes I see today, I 338 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 15: see a lot of anger. 339 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 2: Or frustration or stuff like that. It was just more 340 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 2: community Definitely. 341 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 8: The community felt safe. People could keep their doors open. Yes, 342 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 8: your child could go to the store right by herself. 343 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,639 Speaker 8: We used to say, everybody come in when the street 344 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 8: lights come right, come on right, But then they off 345 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 8: the block. Don't come off the block, you know. But 346 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 8: there wasn't nobody, nobody surveilling you. 347 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 2: And then the adults had more say the adults had 348 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 2: more control where if Reverie Motley saw my son or 349 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 2: daughter out there, they said, I'm. 350 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: Gonna talk to your daddy or I'm talk to your 351 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 3: mama or whatever. That kid would listen or straighten up. 352 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 3: The day you'll get cursed out. You might get shot 353 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 3: or killed if you approach somebody's kid. So we had 354 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: more family, more structure back in the early seventies. 355 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 7: Did you think of this as a as a safe 356 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 7: place for families and children at that time? 357 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 2: Oh? 358 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know this was this was a family oriented. 359 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,720 Speaker 8: My mother and father, they were right up the street. 360 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 8: Like Derek said, you know, you looked out for each other. 361 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 4: In the black community, we always say nothing goes on 362 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: that somebody didn't see. 363 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 7: Here's Romaine Jenkins. 364 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 4: Again, there's always you have a certain portion of the neighborhood, 365 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 4: then hang out. Some of the older guys who'd like 366 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 4: to drink liquor. They would sit outside three hundred and 367 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 4: sixty five days a year, but they're there so if 368 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 4: something happened, they would see it. Then you had the 369 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 4: older people like my mother and her posse. They would 370 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 4: sit in their window and they saw everything that went down. 371 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 4: So if you were around the corner acting up, your 372 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 4: mother got a call, or your grandmother says she's around 373 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: there showing off. Oh yes, And when you got home, 374 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 4: you got it. But they looked out for each other. 375 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,600 Speaker 4: You felt safe, you know, you felt safe in your neighborhood. 376 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 4: Nobody was gonna bother you. 377 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 7: This is why it's strange that supposedly no credible witnesses 378 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 7: actually saw what happened to Carol. And it's exactly why 379 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 7: when she went missing, the neighborhood was in full gear 380 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 7: to find her. 381 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 4: The community was kind of upset at the very beginning 382 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:47,120 Speaker 4: because there were lots of people out looking for Carol Sphinx, 383 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,160 Speaker 4: because it was not like her not to come back home. 384 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: She should have been headed home, and she was seen 385 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 4: headed home in the. 386 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 6: Direction of her house. 387 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: They had lots of search parties, people looking, but to 388 00:22:59,400 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 4: no avail. 389 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 7: I mean, I was born in nineteen seventy in La 390 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 7: They sounds very much like it was here. There was 391 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 7: always somebody out there is a you know, somebody's uncle 392 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:13,160 Speaker 7: in a tank top drinking a forty and somebody's auntie 393 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 7: down the street sitting on their front porch, fanning themselves 394 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 7: with their church fans. And I keep wondering as I 395 00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 7: read about these cases, how did nobody see anything? 396 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 6: Because whoever did the cases fit right into the community, 397 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 6: never raised any suspicion at all, and that's how he 398 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 6: was able to do what he did. Nobody would would 399 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 6: question if they saw him talking to a little girl 400 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 6: or anything. They wouldn't They wouldn't question it. That's my 401 00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 6: personal feeling on it. 402 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: You know, like you said, there's always somebody out. 403 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 7: While many in the community felt the police didn't protect 404 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 7: them and their neighbors as well as they could, officers 405 00:23:55,480 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 7: on the force in the district have a very different perspective. 406 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 16: Very protective in our neighborhoods, even though we know we 407 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 16: hurt each other. We know about the guy in the neighborhood. 408 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 16: This is a weirdo, you know. We know about these 409 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 16: things in our families, even but let's something happen to them. Oh, 410 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 16: you know, we need to be real and that's the 411 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 16: only way we can heal. My name is Rita McCoy. 412 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 16: I'm a retired DC homicide detective. I was on the 413 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 16: Metropolitan Police Department, Washington, d C. I'm a Washingtonian. I'm 414 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 16: presently single. I don't even want to talk about all 415 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 16: them husbands I had. But I had a rack of husbands, 416 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 16: four to be exact, and three were police officers. 417 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 7: Rita says that folks in the community tend to know 418 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,400 Speaker 7: more than they're willing to tell, and for a police officer, 419 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 7: that's tricky to navigate. 420 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 16: We had people all the time, the new family members, 421 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 16: people that knew and would not I ain't know snitch snitches, 422 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 16: get stitches and all that foolishness. This is your neighborhood, 423 00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 16: you know. We had to start giving away money to 424 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 16: get people. And I'm telling you that the talk what 425 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 16: do you want? 426 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 5: You know? 427 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 16: And that's the hard part about us. We hate the police, 428 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 16: but yet the police call them to our neighborhoods more 429 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 16: than anywhere else. So what are you gonna do. You 430 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 16: gotta find it, you know that that area, you know 431 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 16: where you work with the police or whatever to get 432 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,160 Speaker 16: what you want so you can have a safety. 433 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 7: But Rita says there just wasn't enough trust between black 434 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 7: neighborhoods and white police officers. 435 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 16: When I was a child, I remember the police being 436 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 16: called in the community. You know, it was all black 437 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 16: and the corps were white. They were white, and they 438 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 16: were just physically, like assault the two guys that had 439 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 16: been fighting or whatever, and sometimes didn't lock up anybody, 440 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 16: just beat them up and get back in the car. 441 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 9: Leave. 442 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 16: People take advantage of their authority. I saw a lot 443 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 16: of prejudice and racism on this department. I saw prejudice. 444 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 16: I say it was because it was black people. And 445 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 16: then racism I saw from the white officers. And a 446 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 16: lot of them did not grow up in this area. 447 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 16: They're from all over the place, from West Virginia, Southern Virginia. 448 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 6: Whatever. 449 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 16: They chewed, tobacco or you know, the things that were 450 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,640 Speaker 16: not accustomed to in our community. But then I will 451 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,119 Speaker 16: say that some of them, when they saw that you 452 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:35,479 Speaker 16: were good, real police, they changed with you. But you know, 453 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 16: and it's like us too when we around all white people, 454 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 16: and you know, we are initially uncomfortable if you not 455 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 16: weren't raised around them, until you find that they are 456 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:49,159 Speaker 16: like you. 457 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 7: Comments like this suggest that somebody in the community likely 458 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 7: knew something about Carol, but wouldn't come forward to tell 459 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 7: the police, and with no lead, it seemed like the 460 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 7: story was over. But then less than three months later, 461 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 7: in July of nineteen seventy one, yet another girl went missing. 462 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 7: Darlina Denise Johnson was sixteen years old. She grew up 463 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 7: in a large family with five brothers and five sisters. 464 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 7: Darlinia was petite, about five feet two inches and one 465 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 7: hundred ten pounds. She lived in the same neighborhood as 466 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 7: Carol Spinks. Their homes were only three blocks apart. Darlinia 467 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,640 Speaker 7: had a boyfriend and a job at the local rec 468 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 7: center a half mile or so from her apartment. Most 469 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 7: days she'd walk to and from work, and that was 470 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,720 Speaker 7: her plan. On the morning of July eighth, nineteen seventy one, 471 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 7: in the stack of boxes at Detective Romayne Jenkins house, 472 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 7: we found a police report detailing statements given by Darlenia's mother, 473 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,879 Speaker 7: Helen McNeil. She gave this account to police about the 474 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 7: day that Darlina went missing. 475 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 17: On Thursday, July eighth, nineteen seventy one. I had to 476 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,639 Speaker 17: be at d C General Hospital eight o'clock in the morning. 477 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 17: Before I left, I looked in and saw Darlina sleep. 478 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 12: In her room. 479 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 17: I told my son Nick to be sure that he 480 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 17: got her up to go to work at the Oxen 481 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 17: Hill Recreation Center. I came home from the clinic at 482 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,520 Speaker 17: twelve noon, and she had gone that night. I didn't 483 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 17: look for her to come home on Friday. I expected 484 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 17: her in about five o'clock PM. I got home from 485 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 17: the store about six ten pm and asked the kids 486 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 17: if Darlena had been home, and they said they hadn't 487 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 17: seen her. I sent the kids around in the next 488 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 17: court and they asked the people if they had seen Darlina, 489 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 17: and they said no. Round about ten or ten thirty 490 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 17: PM on Friday, I called the precinct and they sent 491 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,479 Speaker 17: two two police officers around. I told them everything and 492 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 17: they took down all the information. The next day the 493 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 17: police came back and got a picture of her. The 494 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 17: first thing Monday morning, I called Miss Ankor at the 495 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 17: Oxen Hill Playground. She said Darlena was supposed to go 496 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,600 Speaker 17: on the camping trip, but that she didn't show. Then 497 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 17: Miss Anker says, do you know about a black car 498 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 17: that picks her up in the evening. She said that 499 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 17: this black car picked up Darlenia and another girl on Wednesday. 500 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 17: She said that the other girl said Darlenia acted like 501 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 17: she knew the fellow pretty well. The other girl insisted 502 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 17: that they let her out of the car and she 503 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 17: didn't know where they went after that. After I talked 504 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 17: to Miss Anker, I went across the hall and talked 505 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 17: to Miss Allan. I told Miss Allan that I had 506 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,800 Speaker 17: called the recreation center and that Miss Anker had told 507 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 17: me about Darlenia getting in the black car. Her daughter, 508 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,560 Speaker 17: Sylvia Allan told me that a fellow called Alfred drove 509 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 17: the black car and he hangs around Alabama Avenue. 510 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 7: It seemed like Helen was on to something, but this 511 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 7: promising lead about a guy named Alfred in a black 512 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 7: car led nowhere. We know that at some point the 513 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 7: police did question Alfred. They even gave him sodium pentathal, 514 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 7: the so called truth serum, but he didn't crack, and 515 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 7: so they moved on. For the rest of that first week, 516 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,960 Speaker 7: Helen was more or less on her own, calling around 517 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 7: asking people in the neighborhood if they'd seen Darlenia. She 518 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 7: called police stations and morgues in DC and in Prince 519 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 7: George's County. Some kids said they found Darlinia's body in 520 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:36,880 Speaker 7: the nearby Oxen Hill high Rise apartment complex, but that 521 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 7: was also a dead end. The police reports showed that 522 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 7: something horrifying happened next, McNeil started to receive unsettling phone calls. 523 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 7: According to McNeil, one afternoon, she answered the phone and 524 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 7: a man spoke uh her daughter. Was this a message 525 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 7: from the killer or was it just a prank call? 526 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 7: We don't know. Of course, there was no caller. I 527 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 7: d in nineteen seventy one, and the record suggests that 528 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 7: the police didn't take those phone calls seriously. They had 529 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 7: very few follow up questions to McNeil's story, and they 530 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 7: never bring it up again in the police reports. Meanwhile, 531 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 7: there were rumors floating around the neighborhood about a dead 532 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 7: body left near the side of the two ninety five freeway, 533 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 7: and on July nineteenth, her body was officially found. One 534 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 7: man who found the body was Curtis Vincent, who worked 535 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 7: for the DC Department of Highways and Traffic. On July 536 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 7: twenty first, nineteen seventy one, he gave this statement to police. 537 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 12: On Friday, July sixteenth, nineteen seventy one, I was on 538 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 12: duty and was at the highway garage at Second in 539 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 12: Bryant Streets, Northeast. I was working with Bill Ferrell. We 540 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 12: were looking at the lawnmower shop there, which is supervised 541 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 12: by mister Roy Tyler, and we were chatting with him. 542 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 12: Mister Roy Tyler asked us if we'd been out around 543 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 12: Firth Sterling and Route two ninety five lately. We asked why, 544 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 12: and Roy said that there was a body of a 545 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,600 Speaker 12: dead lady out there, and he described the location to us. 546 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 12: He told us that he'd notified the police, but the 547 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 12: body was still out there, if I remember correctly, he 548 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 12: told us that the body had been out there about 549 00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 12: a week. On Monday, July nineteenth, nineteen seventy one, I 550 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,080 Speaker 12: was working with Bill and about one pm or so 551 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,560 Speaker 12: we got to talking about what Roy had said about 552 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 12: the body, and we decided to go to the location 553 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 12: he described and see if we could locate the body 554 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 12: on two ninety five, about one hundred yards south of 555 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 12: Firth Sterling, on the north side of two ninety five, 556 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 12: I guess about ten feet from the embankment, we found 557 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 12: the body. I got the impression from the dress that 558 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 12: the body was that of a female. The body was 559 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 12: lying on the stomach with the head down the embankment 560 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 12: and the feet up toward Route two ninety five. As 561 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 12: far as I could tell, the body was clothed and 562 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 12: I definitely remember that she was wearing blue shorts. Other 563 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 12: than that, I recall a blouse. I do not remember 564 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:07,920 Speaker 12: any other clothing. 565 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,760 Speaker 7: In the end, it was his coworker Bill, who had 566 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 7: a connection at the Metropolitan Police Department. Bill called his friend, 567 00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 7: a police sergeant named Charles Baden, and only then, after 568 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,640 Speaker 7: the body had been outside for over a week, did 569 00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,160 Speaker 7: the police finally recover it. 570 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 10: The sad part about this is that there was actually 571 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 10: motorists that drove by on the super Busy Highway on 572 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 10: July twelfth, seven days prior to when her body was 573 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 10: actually recovered, and reported there's a body on the side 574 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 10: of the road. Multiple times people called in saying that 575 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 10: before she was finally removed days later, So if the 576 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 10: police had actually found her body, it may have not 577 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 10: been that decomposed five days prior. 578 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 7: This is author Victoria Hester, who he heard from last episode. 579 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 7: She and her father Blaine, have written extensively on the 580 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,120 Speaker 7: Freeway phantom case. 581 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 11: We actually saw the autopsy photos of this, and all 582 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 11: of them are very disturbing. These are young girls, but 583 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,160 Speaker 11: hers was very disturbing, just because she almost looked mummified. 584 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 11: It's July and Washington, d C. She's laying out exposed. 585 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 11: You know, the temperatures are all always in the eighties 586 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 11: ninety degrees. You know, it's just it was terrible. It 587 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 11: was just horrible. 588 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 7: We found transcripts of the nine to one one calls 589 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:36,360 Speaker 7: reporting Darlinia's body. This call came in at six fifty 590 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 7: am on July twelfth, a full week before she was 591 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 7: picked up. 592 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 5: I think I got it uncontient in a mineral that 593 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 5: time in the morning. I hope everybody had their breakun 594 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 5: it that Tarling and Nive at the intersection. Oh, it 595 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,399 Speaker 5: went over an embankment or laying over on the thigh 596 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,920 Speaker 5: ant Purling and two ninety five. Yeah, oh, I'll bet 597 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 5: it's just an unconscious or just a man down. 598 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 7: Forty minutes later, at seven thirty am, police received a 599 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 7: second call about the body. 600 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 5: I help you, Yeah, I broke down on Route two 601 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,240 Speaker 5: ninety five right opposite. 602 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,560 Speaker 3: Boiling Field Photo Center this morning. 603 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, sir, and there's a dead woman. I think it's 604 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:23,760 Speaker 5: a woman. It could be a man lying in the bushes. 605 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,280 Speaker 5: It's northbound on two ninety five, right opposite the photo 606 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:32,279 Speaker 5: center of boiling Field. Okay, is it a pretty obvious thing? No, 607 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 5: it's in the bushes. You couldn't see it from the road. Okay, sir, 608 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:37,879 Speaker 5: We'll send somebody else find it. 609 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 7: As Blaine tells us, police followed up on these first 610 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 7: few reports about the body, but they couldn't have looked 611 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:45,760 Speaker 7: very hard. 612 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,600 Speaker 11: Police did drive by, you know, they did a slow 613 00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 11: drive by and looked and didn't see the body. But 614 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 11: people kept saying they're out there, and it was a 615 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 11: real embarrassment I think for law enforcement. And the body 616 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 11: was found fifteen feet from where Carol Spink's body had 617 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 11: been found, So you know, at the time, that was 618 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:10,720 Speaker 11: the link that really tied these two together. 619 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 7: That was perhaps the most shocking detail. Darlinia was found 620 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 7: only fifteen feet from where Carol Spinks had been found. 621 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:27,240 Speaker 7: But still police didn't officially connect the two murders. We did, however, 622 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 7: find one police report where an officer interviewed a suspect 623 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 7: in Darlinia's murder named Alfred Henry Holmes. The officer asked 624 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 7: Holmes if he also knew about Carol Spinks, to which 625 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:41,800 Speaker 7: he answered no. But other than this question, there's little 626 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 7: to suggest that the police department considered them connected. Meanwhile, 627 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:50,280 Speaker 7: investigators were still trying to piece together what had actually 628 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 7: happened to Darlinia. 629 00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 10: There's lots of stories of meeting up with a boyfriend 630 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,000 Speaker 10: or going to stay somewhere else, but in a time 631 00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 10: before cell phones and ways to contact kid when they're 632 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:04,840 Speaker 10: off doing whatever they're doing, it's hard to tell what happened. 633 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 10: There's not a whole lot of information about her specifically, 634 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 10: just because her body was so far decomposed. 635 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 4: I think Darlenia went to meet the killer because she 636 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 4: she's the one who was decomposed, and we have nothing 637 00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,799 Speaker 4: on her case, nothing per see. But at this point 638 00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 4: when this was read and she was still missing, right. 639 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 7: This is Romayne Jenkins. We're sitting in her living room 640 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 7: going through boxes of evidence and discussing Darlinia Denise Johnson. 641 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 7: Romayne was especially frustrated by this murder. 642 00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:39,880 Speaker 4: The police department was truly incompetent. I mean, let's face it. 643 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 4: She leaves home on July the eighth. The remains a 644 00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 4: found I think July the twelfth. The guy who worked 645 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 4: for Department of DC Highways in traffic, he calls the police. 646 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 4: When his coworkers pick him up, he shows them the body. 647 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 4: They call the police and if you look at the 648 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 4: radio runs trans script of the radio runs. Every scout 649 00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 4: car that was dispatched came back in ten eight nothing found. Well, 650 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:08,400 Speaker 4: you're not gonna see about it if you don't stop 651 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,399 Speaker 4: the car. If you're going sixty five miles an hour 652 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 4: down two ninety five, trying to keep up with traffic, 653 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 4: you're not going to look. So that was incompetence on 654 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 4: their part, totally incomfident because it might have been something, 655 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 4: some evidence that we missed because we did not have 656 00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 4: a cause of death or her you know. 657 00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 7: So Darlinia's case was a dead end. But then just 658 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:37,400 Speaker 7: a few weeks later, the killer would strike again. On 659 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,480 Speaker 7: July twenty seventh, a ten year old girl named Brenda 660 00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,840 Speaker 7: Crockett went missing, and later that night, Brenda called home 661 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:46,480 Speaker 7: and talked to her stepdad. 662 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,160 Speaker 5: I'm many Christian in. 663 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 7: A white man's house to witness. 664 00:38:55,280 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 13: Came the car and turned me to this. 665 00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:15,160 Speaker 7: House my mother next time on Freeway Phantom. 666 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 11: When I got there, I guess there was a crowd 667 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 11: starting to come out. 668 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 4: Arriving on a scene. I was directed to where this 669 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 4: child was laying on the side of the road. 670 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,479 Speaker 6: She was the child of God. 671 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:29,400 Speaker 8: She loved church. 672 00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,799 Speaker 13: She was going to refrigerate to eat raw bacon, but 673 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 13: you know the pigs were better back then. 674 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 6: Asked her again, tell the man to come to the phone. 675 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:41,760 Speaker 7: I heard someone walk in heaven. 676 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,080 Speaker 3: She said, really low, I'll see you, and someone just 677 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 3: cut the phone. 678 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 11: So the killer had kind of shifted at least from 679 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 11: the first case. He's not spending as much time with 680 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 11: the victims. He's killing them and now just dumping them. 681 00:39:55,800 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 6: Whoever grabbed these young ladies grab them right in their 682 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 6: own Neighborhook. 683 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,279 Speaker 1: Freeway Fantom is a production of iHeartRadio, Tenderfoot TV, and 684 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: Black bar Mitzvah. Our host is Selese Hiley. The show 685 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 1: is written by Trevor Young, Jamie Albright and CELESE. 686 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 16: Hilly. 687 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,400 Speaker 1: Executive producers on behalf of iHeart Radio include Matt Frederick 688 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: and Alex Williams, with supervising producer Trevor Young. 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