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Speaker 1: What's going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three and Out podcast

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Speaker 1: brought to me by the Colin Coward Podcast that one

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Speaker 1: Monday Night. Just finished watches the Monday night football game.

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Speaker 1: What an incredible game. I mean, that's really what we

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Speaker 1: why I got into football, That's why I like watching sports.

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Speaker 1: That game, I mean that that that was fantastic. We'll

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Speaker 1: get into that. Definitely got to dive into Patrick Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: So some thoughts on Earl Thomas. Uh, we've talked a

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Speaker 1: lot about Levy on Bell. Earl Thomas broke his leg.

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Speaker 1: Monday Night football. Uh just again a fantastic game had

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Speaker 1: tipped to both teams like that, that was I can't

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Speaker 1: ask for anything more. I know we've last several years

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Speaker 1: people bitched and moaned about the Monday and night football games.

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Speaker 1: Especially ESPN has been mad, the NFL has been giving

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Speaker 1: them bad games. To me, Broncos Chiefs, especially at Mile

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Speaker 1: High that that feels like my youth. I mean that

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Speaker 1: that was a go to nineties football game. That that

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Speaker 1: game just feels right that that that was fantastic. There's

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Speaker 1: nothing like a night game in neither Kansas City or

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Speaker 1: Denver d a f C West. That matchup is just awesome,

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Speaker 1: just absolutely awesome. But the story of the game, and

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Speaker 1: let's call it what it is, the story of the

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Speaker 1: league right now is Patrick Mahomes. And we talked about

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Speaker 1: him last week. He was kind of just taken over

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Speaker 1: Why because eventually, like when you make it to the

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Speaker 1: curve ball. It's no different in football. Once they find out, well,

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Speaker 1: this makes he's comfortable doing this, this, and this, let's

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Speaker 1: see if he can handle this. Usually what that is

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Speaker 1: are blitzes. They send people at you. They make you

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Speaker 1: make a quick decision. Well, what happened and I the

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Speaker 1: Broncos have a fast defense. They pressured Mahomes. It threw

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Speaker 1: him off, as it should. You know, he's young. This

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Speaker 1: know he played at Pittsburgh, but that was a day game. Uh,

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Speaker 1: it was really a morning game. I think it was

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Speaker 1: But they got up so fast the crowd never really

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Speaker 1: got into it. This was a different animal. They were

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Speaker 1: he adjusted by getting outside of the pocket, and you

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Speaker 1: They kept rushing up field. He is clearly and I

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Speaker 1: think these far of comparisons a lot of people think

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Speaker 1: But the man on the moon can see that this

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Speaker 1: You know you're either a good player or not based

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Speaker 1: It's no different than like you just watch players, some

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Speaker 1: He claimed that C. J. Bethard was the best quarterback

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Speaker 1: imagine most quarterback coaches in the NFL and a lot

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Speaker 1: And I can't white wait to watch the Kansasy Chiefs

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Speaker 1: don't know the official drop number in front of me,

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Speaker 1: but it's got to be like six or seven. I mean,

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Speaker 1: balls are hitting the ground. He's hitting dudes in the

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Speaker 1: hand went Damn, that's exactly what it's supposed to look like.

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Speaker 1: That's what several years ago, like when they got Carson Palmer,

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Speaker 1: a pocket quarterback who can just absolutely sling it. The

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are not good. They're probably gonna be a three

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Speaker 1: and thirteen team, maybe maybe worse. I mean, they stink,

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this, there is no better feeling than

437
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Speaker 1: being a bad team. When you have a young quarterback

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Speaker 1: with the upside that is extremely high, and when you

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Speaker 1: can throw the ball like Josh Rosen, and when you're

440
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Speaker 1: accurate like Josh Rosen, he is going to be really

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Speaker 1: good in this league. I bet on him coming out.

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Speaker 1: I bet on him even more now. He does have

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Speaker 1: an injury history that there are things like if he

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Speaker 1: gets hurt, obviously that would scrub his growth. But if

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Speaker 1: he stays healthy, he's gonna be a good player in

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Speaker 1: this league. If he stays healthy, he's gonna be a

447
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Speaker 1: better player in Josh Allen. I feel pretty confident on

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Speaker 1: that because unlike Josh Allen, who's head coach, is not

449
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Speaker 1: an offensive guy, so there's gonna be turnover, right, the

450
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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator will leave or get fired if it's not

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Speaker 1: working out. Josh Rosen doesn't necessarily need to be coached

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Speaker 1: up on the mechanics of the drop back and how

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Speaker 1: to become accurate, like he already has those skills. Now

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Speaker 1: he needs stability and needs good play calling. I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying he can operate devoid coaching, but he doesn't need

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Speaker 1: the most fundamental attributes and you know, teaching processes of

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Speaker 1: this he already has that. That's that's the package he

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Speaker 1: came with. Now, if you can surround him with talent

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Speaker 1: build a good team, you were gonna win with this guy.

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Speaker 1: He is a good player and he was. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he's one of my favorite college prospects in recent memory,

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Speaker 1: and I look forward to watching him more because I

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Speaker 1: think the Arizona Cardinals got something pretty special in their hands.

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Speaker 1: Got a couple of quick thoughts. You know, I spent

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Speaker 1: all this time watching college football, I may as well

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Speaker 1: touch on some some of my thoughts on in terms

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs, what what I saw last weekend. My

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Speaker 1: my big takeaway from Saturday was I think Stanford is

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Speaker 1: really good and Notre Dame really kind of put a

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Speaker 1: stranglehold on them and kick their ass in the second half.

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Speaker 1: And to me, there's not really a take to be

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Speaker 1: had about Notre Dame beside that they're really good, that

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Speaker 1: if they don't draw Bama, if they're able to run

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Speaker 1: the table and they get to the playoffs in the

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Speaker 1: first round, that they can win a playoff game. Like

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Speaker 1: to me, they could hang with Clemson, they could hang

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Speaker 1: with Ohio State, you know, they could hang with the Georgia,

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Speaker 1: they can hang with an Oklahoma. Uh. Clearly, Bama's you know,

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Speaker 1: on a different level. But this Notre Dame team, they

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Speaker 1: really play defense, and they can really run the ball.

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Speaker 1: And this new quarterback that Brian Kelly putt in the

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Speaker 1: game all right, you know, I guess inserted as a starter.

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Speaker 1: I guess it was two weeks ago. He's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: That this team looks just physically on a different level

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Speaker 1: for the first time in a long time. Uh, and

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Speaker 1: they look legit. I mean, you don't beat the crap

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Speaker 1: out of Stanford like that. And let's face it, like Michigan,

488
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Speaker 1: it turns out Michigan's Okay, Michigan's defense is dominant. Shaye

489
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Speaker 1: Patterson tad been overrated. I'm not the biggest Shaye Patterson guy.

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Speaker 1: But Michigan is a good team. I mean, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the year, they're probably attendant two team and

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame kick their ass. I know that the scoreboard

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Speaker 1: sent it was a one possession game. Anyone that watched

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Speaker 1: that game knows it wasn't. And clearly Stanford they were

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Speaker 1: on a completely different level. To me, Notre Dame is

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Speaker 1: a playoff team. Uh, just just from the eye tests,

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Speaker 1: the stat tests, just watching them play, they are really

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Speaker 1: really good. You gotta give credit to Wisle State. Uh,

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Speaker 1: going to independ State in that environment, a white out

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Speaker 1: at night has got to be one of the hardest

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Speaker 1: places to play in the country. They were down big

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Speaker 1: in the second half, and when I say big, I

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Speaker 1: mean a couple of scores. For them to come back

504
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Speaker 1: and win that game without their best player, Joey Bose's

505
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,960
Speaker 1: brother Nick at home is really impressive. I don't care

506
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Speaker 1: if James Franklin had a shitty play called you know

507
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Speaker 1: at the end of the game. Whatever, you win that

508
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Speaker 1: game in that environment, uh, you're the real deal. To me,

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Speaker 1: they're the second best team in the country even on

510
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,560
Speaker 1: like you win a game on your bad night. What

511
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Speaker 1: do they always say, Like the thing about like a

512
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Speaker 1: starting pitchers is of course like Kershaw and Bumgarner and

513
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: those type guys. Sure as you're When they're on, they're unhittable.

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Speaker 1: But what makes them great is when they don't have

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Speaker 1: their A stuff, they could still go seven and they

516
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Speaker 1: still give up one run. That's the reason they're million

517
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Speaker 1: thirty million dollar guys. It's not because when they have

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Speaker 1: their A stuff going a lot most guys do. What

519
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Speaker 1: about when you have your be stuff going, your see

520
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: stuff going? Can you still get guys out when you

521
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: aren't playing your best game? Can you still win? An

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Speaker 1: Ohio State can because they didn't play very well and

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Speaker 1: they beat a team on the road that I mean,

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00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: it's so hard to win. Their hat tip toed Ohouse State.

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Speaker 1: They're really good. I'm not a bigger Abandmyer guy. I

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Speaker 1: think he's a massive fraud, you know. I thought he

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Speaker 1: was a fraud since he faked the heart attack in Florida.

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Speaker 1: But he can really coach and his team is stacked,

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Speaker 1: and I would not want to play Ohio State. I

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Speaker 1: think Ohio State if boasts is healthy, and that's clearly

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Speaker 1: a big if right now. Joey's not, Nick's not, None

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Speaker 1: of the boasts of families healthy. But if he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: they have they can win the Natty Clemsons in trouble.

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Speaker 1: You know their quarterback. They're depending on this freshman quarterback

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Speaker 1: and I don't I haven't read anything since he got

536
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: knocked out of the game. Who knows if he's coming back.

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00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,639
Speaker 1: He'll be ready this week. But you do see and

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Speaker 1: that injuries happen. Quarterbacks go down, And that's the one

539
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Speaker 1: thing that's scary about Alabama is like they're completely on

540
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 1: a different level with TWA, but they've proven they can

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Speaker 1: get to the national championship with Jalen Hurston. So it's

542
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: like they got they got two dudes. Clemson now where

543
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: they used to have two dudes, Like Kelly Bryant got

544
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: him the playoffs last year. Well he's gone, he transferred,

545
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: he bounced, he's out. And the moment that dude went

546
00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,800
Speaker 1: down in that game against Syracuse, people are like, oh

547
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: my god, Clemson screwed they. Now they ended up overcoming it.

548
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: A great game in the second half, just great comeback.

549
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,959
Speaker 1: Their defensive line took over as they should. They got

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Speaker 1: a ton of defensive you know, future pros that they

551
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: should dominate. But they are very dependent on this fresh

552
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: and quarterback like they cannot even compete in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: They could get there because the a c C stinks,

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Speaker 1: But with with this at the backup had to play

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Speaker 1: the rest of the season. They could win all the

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Speaker 1: games because their roster is good enough. But you could

557
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: argue if there are like five undefeated teams that you

558
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: could leave them out because if Kelly, if Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 1: is not playing the freshman quarterback, that they have no

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Speaker 1: business competing with. The Ohio States held, the Notre Dames,

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Speaker 1: the definitely, the Alabama's, the Georgia's like they need Trevor Lawrence.

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Speaker 1: Now they got Trevor Lawrence that they can hang with

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Speaker 1: anyone because they are stacked to to meet them with

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Ohio State and Alabama are just are the

565
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 1: cream of the crop. Now Alabama's the cream of the crop,

566
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Speaker 1: like the top dog. But those other two when they're playing, well,

567
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: watch out just because the athletes. George is clearly really good.

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Speaker 1: L s Us really good. Uh Michigan, it's gonna I

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, even if

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Speaker 1: they do run the table up until that Ohio State game,

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Speaker 1: I I don't know if they're gonna have enough offense

572
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: jape had is good enough to beat Ohio State. So

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Speaker 1: it'll probably be the fourth straight year that Harball loses

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Speaker 1: to Michigan. But right now it's clear Obama Clemson as

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Speaker 1: long as Trevor Lawrence to come back. If not, they're screwed.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, oh I forgot. Oklahoma's really good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's college football year is fantastic. We have a ton

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Speaker 1: of really good quarterbacks. I mean, look, Alabama star quarterback,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma star quarterback, Clemson injured, but he's a star quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Ohio State asking star quarterback, Notre Dame just star program

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Speaker 1: like this, this, this is great. Man, she signed me

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00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: up for these games. You know, you get prime time

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame Stanford, you know whenever l s U plays Alabama,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Oklahoma Texas this weekend. I'm getting just

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00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: chills even talking about it, Like I love that. There

586
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Speaker 1: is nothing like a good college football game, especially a

587
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Speaker 1: good college football game at night, when the quarterback plays

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Speaker 1: good and athletes are everywhere. This has been a fantastic

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Speaker 1: college football season. Okay, let's get to my favorite part

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Speaker 1: of the week, Middlecoff mail bag. You want to ask actions.

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Speaker 1: I still got a bunch. I got like ten. I'll

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00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: bang out like four or five right now. I'll get

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00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: to more on Friday. We're doing the podcast now, Tuesday's

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Speaker 1: Friday's so slide up in my d M on Instagram

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Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff, same thing as my Twitter handle and

596
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 1: just put Middlecoff mail bag and I'll answer the question

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00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 1: and if I if I haven't got to yet, I'm

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00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: working through him. I'll get to it, okay. Alex in

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00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 1: New Orleans love the podcast. What's your assessment of Luck

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Speaker 1: Shoulder through the first few weeks of the season. Do

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Speaker 1: you expect him to return to all pro form? Are

602
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,080
Speaker 1: we reading too much into Jacoby Prosette having to throw

603
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: the hail Mary? Full disclosure, I have not watched all

604
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: of that overtime game. We're Luck's stats were just stupid.

605
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: I saw bits of pieces of it through the red

606
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Speaker 1: Zone channel. I do know this in the first couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks watching him play, and I watched him a

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Speaker 1: decent amount in the first couple of weeks, and I

609
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: watched bits and pieces of that game too. He does

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00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,920
Speaker 1: not have the same zip on the ball now. He's

611
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 1: never been like a Mahomes. Derek Carr, you know type

612
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: guy just to let it rip like that that it's

613
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Speaker 1: not really his game. He's more of like a you know,

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Speaker 1: a better version of like Philip Rivers. He's stronger arm,

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Speaker 1: but that that's kind of his game. Now he's more

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Speaker 1: mobile when I when I just mean by the way

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00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: he passes the ball very accurate. Uh you know he

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Speaker 1: just he just picked you apart. Now his the huge

619
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Speaker 1: separating factor like where he's not like that's cops terrible

620
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: actually because he can move way better. But you get

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like he won throwing throwing darts lasers

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Speaker 1: for completions, but they weren't like he wasn't Andy Dalton,

623
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Speaker 1: but he might know means was like Joe Flacco this year.

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Speaker 1: You can tell. It's just he doesn't have the same

625
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: zip on the ball, which can be expected. I mean

626
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Speaker 1: he he missed what like six hundred plus days of

627
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: not throwing a football. Uh. He had the crazy snowboard

628
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: accident where who knows what, he fall down a black

629
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Speaker 1: diamond and he heard his shoulder. Will he get back?

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Speaker 1: I saw a couple of weeks ago Steve Young talk

631
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: about I sure you know Steve kind of saying like

632
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: he was seeing the same thing and you hope he

633
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: gets back, but you never truly know, and it's just

634
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: one of those things that you never truly know. But

635
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Speaker 1: I do know this that you can function and this

636
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: is probably where you get to the Rivers, Like you

637
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 1: can function at a really really high level when you're

638
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: really smart, you're really big like that, and you can

639
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: play accurately and throw the ball accurately, like if he

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Speaker 1: has to turn into Philip Rivers with some mobility where

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Speaker 1: he just doesn't have a great arm, you can kick

642
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Speaker 1: ass that way. So I don't think he'll probably ever

643
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Speaker 1: get his arm strength back because he had like his

644
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: first couple of years, uh, just just betting against you know,

645
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Speaker 1: the human body and the surgeries that he had. But

646
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 1: but I do think that you know, to me, the

647
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: Jacobe Brissette throwing the Hail Mary a couple of weeks

648
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Speaker 1: ago as more just that that's a play where you

649
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: have to go all out, you know, and what why

650
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Speaker 1: Risks ripping his shoulder? Like to me, that's just a

651
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 1: smart play. I don't read that much into it. To me,

652
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: I read more into just watching him throw the ball,

653
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: and it's not quite the same. But I love luck

654
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: and uh I think he'll get it back eventually, maybe

655
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 1: not all the arm strength, but just his ability. Okay,

656
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: question for the mail bag, how would you rate the

657
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: top five young quarterbacks in the league. I think we've

658
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 1: talked about it before. Uh, it's just such a fluid situation.

659
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean, a couple of years ago, Derek Carr was

660
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 1: gonna be the m v P. Last year, Carson Wentz

661
00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: was gonna be the m v P. One had a

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00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: broken leg, one had a torny a c L. Now

663
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes the greatest thing since sliced bread last year

664
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Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson was tearing up the league. Now he sucks.

665
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: You know, it's so hard with young players. They fluctuate

666
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: so much like every game. Drew Brees looks the same

667
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 1: for the most part every game, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers,

668
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: you know, they played the same game. The hard part

669
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Speaker 1: with young players, they're like the stock market. They're up

670
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: and they're down, they're down. They're up there, up there,

671
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: up there, up there, down down, up up up. You know,

672
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: Derek Carr was terrible in the game for the first half.

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Speaker 1: Good in the second half. Jimmy Garoppolo came into the

674
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: year kind of up and down. I think there's just

675
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,840
Speaker 1: a group of guys mahomes physical talent. Obviously, Carson Wentz

676
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: right there. I am still not giving up on Derek Carr.

677
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: Jared Goff right now is playing incredibly. Carson Wentz is

678
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: still just a special, special talent. They got a bunch

679
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: of you know, guys banged up a little down on

680
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: Mariota at least coming into this year, but he's just

681
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: kind of finding a way. He is really mentally tough,

682
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 1: but his physical attributes aren't great. He's got to find

683
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 1: a way to stay healthy. I think there's just an

684
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: incredible crop of young players. And then I'm not even

685
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: counting the Baker Donald and Rosen looks pretty awesome. And

686
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: I'm not the biggest Josh Allen guy, but he's definitely

687
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: a talented player. And yeah, I don't want to forget

688
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,480
Speaker 1: this guy. I mean, there are so many young players.

689
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Speaker 1: Dak Prescott. I hate watching the Cowboys. I find them

690
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: extremely boring. And don't get me wrong, I'm not like

691
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: anti Cowboys. I love the brand. I know how good

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Speaker 1: they are for the NFL and what I do for

693
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: a business. You know, I talked about football. So I

694
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: like the Cowboys being good, but I gotta give Dak

695
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: Prescott credit that final drive. And I know it wasn't

696
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: the Lions. It wasn't the eight five Bears on Sunday

697
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 1: was really impressive. I was watching it, came up on

698
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: the red zone, he went bang, bang boom, game winner.

699
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: It was like, damn, that was an impressive drive. I

700
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Speaker 1: can see why the Cowboys like Dak Prescott because I

701
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,799
Speaker 1: was impressed with Jimmy g getting hurt. Do you think

702
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Speaker 1: the forty Niners trade for a backup quarterback with Tyrod

703
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 1: Bradford and Foles being moved as the backup? Saying with

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, could you give a list of the best

705
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Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks top five? I would say there's zero chance,

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Speaker 1: one zero chance unless c. J. Beathur in the next

707
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Speaker 1: couple of years has a bad injury that they trade

708
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Speaker 1: for a backup quarterback because now it's clear they can

709
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: keep developing young guys, get a top pick, and then

710
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 1: just come back next year with Jimmy. Uh. If you

711
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Speaker 1: had to go best backup quarterbacks, you you'd have to

712
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,320
Speaker 1: put to me the way I view a backup quarterback.

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00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: It's not how they play if they have to start

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Speaker 1: four or five games, because that's the reason they're the backup,

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Speaker 1: Like Ryan Fitzpatrick cannot sustain it. But if he has

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Speaker 1: to start a game or two, Like if your quarterback

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Speaker 1: it's his ankle really bad and can't play a game,

718
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Speaker 1: can you win that game with the backup? You can

719
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,719
Speaker 1: with Foles, you can with Fitzpatrick. Bradford has just thrown

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Speaker 1: up the white flag. So I would say no on that.

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Speaker 1: I think you saw with c. J. Beathard playing against

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Speaker 1: the Chargers. He's not a bad backup. He's definitely not

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Speaker 1: a starter, but he is by no means a bad backup. Uh.

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Speaker 1: There just aren't many good backups in the NFL. You know,

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00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: in a perfect world like case keenom is your backup,

726
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: then when case Keenum has to start a lot, he

727
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,839
Speaker 1: eventually gets exposed. Uh. And I know he played well

728
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 1: last year, but just watch him on the Monday night

729
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: game like he's just a limited player. Uh. So I'd

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Speaker 1: go Fitzpatrick Foles definitely. I probably one and two because

731
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Speaker 1: if you have to win a game, regular season or playoff,

732
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: do you even have a chance. Chad Haney a couple

733
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Speaker 1: of years ago, what was playing. I guess it was

734
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: Matt Moore was the backup for the Miami Dolphins. Back

735
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: backups are hard because if they do have to play

736
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 1: for a an extended period of time, they're always gonna

737
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: look like eventually, Fitzpatrick was bound to look bad if

738
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Speaker 1: he kept playing, because he's not as good as Jamis,

739
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: But he can have a game or two where he

740
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: outplays Jamis by a mile. He can outplay all pro

741
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 1: players you know on a given game. But that's just

742
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: they're just not easy to find and sometimes you don't

743
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: really know it until you see a guy play. Uh So, yeah,

744
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I'd say there's probably not five good backups

745
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Speaker 1: in the league. Hey, John, when the season started, as

746
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Speaker 1: you pick the Saints as your dark horse team to

747
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl, why is their defense giving up

748
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: so many points even though they added obviously that import

749
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 1: in the first round. Is their defensive coordinator? Uh? Or

750
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: they just not jelling. You think after the successive last

751
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: season they would be performing at the same level. I

752
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: think they overachieved a little bit last year. I've never

753
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: been the biggest Dennis Allen guy. I also think just

754
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: in general, even when you do have good players on defense,

755
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 1: the rules and the officiating are no longer on your side.

756
00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: You have to adapt. And I think as we trans asition,

757
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: like as the season ends, we want to far a

758
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 1: long way from transitioning. But we talk college football in here,

759
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: we talked the draft. I think you have to look

760
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: at the draft a little bit differently, Like what I

761
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: take a corner in the top ten. Probably not. I'd

762
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: be more likely if a corner and a wide receiver

763
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 1: were even to take the wide receiver because the league

764
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 1: is becoming so offensive. It's like the Saints. Yeah, their

765
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: defense is struggling, but their offense isn't. Their offense is dominating.

766
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,440
Speaker 1: Why because their offense is dominant Because there's nothing you

767
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 1: can do to stop it. You can't hit the quarterback,

768
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: you can't press the wide receivers, you can't hit the

769
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers across the middle. Drew has they don't have

770
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: to worry about running across the middle. Drew doesn't really

771
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: have to worry about getting hit. That the rules have

772
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: changed so dramatically that if your defense isn't the cream

773
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 1: of the crop, like a Jacksonville or Chicago, any given

774
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: defense on any given we could just look terrible. Uh,

775
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 1: the rules are just against you. That they are, You're

776
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: behind the eight ball. So I think at the end

777
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: of the day, the Saints offense, what they do well

778
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: is so good they're gonna be right in the mix

779
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 1: till the end. I would not give up on them

780
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: by any means. If Drew Brees stays healthy this year,

781
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: I think they one hundred percent can still compete in

782
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Speaker 1: the NFC. Like if you told me, like, could the

783
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Speaker 1: Saints go into l A, Let's just say the l A.

784
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Speaker 1: It feels pretty likely that they're gonna have a strong,

785
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,360
Speaker 1: strong edge on the number one overall seed. I I

786
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: would if that line was big, like the Saints were

787
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 1: begetting like six or seven points on the road against

788
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: the l A Rams, you know, in the second round

789
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Speaker 1: of the playoffs, after the Saints has just won a

790
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: wild card game. I bet your ask John Middlecoff put

791
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 1: a little cash on the Saints. Okay, last one and

792
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,879
Speaker 1: then again slide into my d MS Middlecoff mail bag

793
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff Instagram, and I still got a bunch.

794
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: I'll get to them later this week. I've been a

795
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,160
Speaker 1: Titans fans since they lost the Super Bowl to the Rams.

796
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: That was a really fun game. I was the kid.

797
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,919
Speaker 1: Then I'm almost thirty years old now. For a long

798
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: time I told myself it was because Peyton Manning ruled

799
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: the But with Peyton removed for a few years now,

800
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: it seems like the entire division has been exposed for

801
00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: how bad it really is. Well, the Titans ever become

802
00:41:07,640 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: relevant in the NFL again in my lifetime, Well, one

803
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: of the things to become relevant in the NFL usually

804
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 1: need a star quarterback. And I'm with you, I'm thirty

805
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 1: about to be three or four years old this Saturday.

806
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: Actually that when I think of the Titans, like in

807
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: their heyday with Jeff Fisher, you think Stephen Naira, you know,

808
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:27,919
Speaker 1: Stephen nare Andatie George, and you thought Mariotta was gonna

809
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: become that guy, and he just kind of hasn't grasped

810
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,680
Speaker 1: it now right now. They got that huge win this

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00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 1: weekend there three and one. I went to their training camp.

812
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 1: People that have been listening to podcast for a while.

813
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: In the spring, I thought the roster was really solid,

814
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 1: but Mariota had like, your quarterback has to play really

815
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: well for you to win in two thousand and eighteen,

816
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,399
Speaker 1: and he's been very hit or missed. Now. The one

817
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: thing that he clearly showed on Sunday, and Brabel gave

818
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: him a ton of credit in the postgame locker room

819
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: was just like grittiness and toughness and the ability to

820
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 1: make a play. He is a mentally tough s ob.

821
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: He really is. And Harold Landry, the guy they draft

822
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:03,600
Speaker 1: in the second round, has shown flashes of being having

823
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: potential to be a big time speed rusher. Rashaan Evans

824
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: gonna be a good player. Their their defense is just

825
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: tough minded team. Derrick Henry does not look very good

826
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: to me. But if Corey Davis can make plays, the

827
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 1: other wide receivers can make plays, if their offensive line

828
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,439
Speaker 1: can protect Mariota and their their team just can find

829
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Speaker 1: a way to win. Because right now they're just finding

830
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: a way to win. And you beat the Eagles at

831
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Speaker 1: home in overtime, I don't care how it looks that

832
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: that is a good win. You go three and one

833
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,800
Speaker 1: in a month, you're in really really good shape. Uh.

834
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Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the NFL the season,

835
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Speaker 1: like four quarters, four four game quarters, if you have

836
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,279
Speaker 1: to three and one months and to two and two months,

837
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Speaker 1: you're in the playoffs because you'll be ten and six

838
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: and they just had a three in one month, so

839
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Speaker 1: they can have their next month can be two and two. Well,

840
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,359
Speaker 1: you're five and three. You're in great shape. You're headed

841
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 1: towards the playoffs. Clearly division is down. The Colts are.

842
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: They just don't have the talent uh and and Lucks

843
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: he's not as dominant as he was when he was

844
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: younger coming off the injury, so that they're gonna be

845
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: a year away. The Texans, I mean, you start owing three,

846
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: you're just way behind the eight ball. Now. They still

847
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: have a ton of talent that they can rattle off wins,

848
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: and the Jaguars are tough. But the Titans beat him,

849
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: you know, I mean the Titans beat them. So you

850
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: keep handling business inside your division. You get wins like

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Speaker 1: taking care of the Eagles and defending champs at home.

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Speaker 1: I think I think this would be a season. But

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Speaker 1: when you say relevant, like be a power that the

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Speaker 1: NFL network talks about that I consistently talk about, you

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Speaker 1: need Mariota to be better. You need him to be

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Speaker 1: just special like you thought he was gonna be when

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Speaker 1: you drafted him number two overall. And I love the guy.

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Speaker 1: I talked to him when I was at the training camp,

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Speaker 1: and he's a nice guy. In the NFL. You won't

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Speaker 1: meet anyone that I've ever come in contact with it

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Speaker 1: have been around him that has a negative thing to

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Speaker 1: say about the guy. He's the type person you root

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Speaker 1: for in the NFL. But from a players standpoint, he's

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Speaker 1: just gotta play better. He's got to be just more

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Speaker 1: of a playmaker. Now. He doesn't have the physical attributes

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Speaker 1: of my Homes or Winz, but as you saw in

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Speaker 1: that game Sunday, he can still do ship that other

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Speaker 1: guys just can't with his legs keeping plays alive. He

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Speaker 1: just has an instinct for playing the position. So if

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Speaker 1: if he can be really good and this team can

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Speaker 1: somehow get to like ten and six in the playoffs again,

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Speaker 1: that'd be back to back playoff years, Like yeah, then

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Speaker 1: then you become relevant. I look forward to watching Vabel

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Speaker 1: just a just a football guy. This is and I

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Speaker 1: think what's he's saying this is for the boys. He's exciting.

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Speaker 1: I personally like watching the Titans, but for them to

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Speaker 1: be relevant, it's gonna be fall on Mario too. Uh

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Speaker 1: shoes for sure. Appreciate everyone listening. Again, We're going two

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Speaker 1: times a week Tuesday Friday, moving forward all football season.

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Speaker 1: We just got way too much going on. I got

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Speaker 1: way too many, way too many takes on football to

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Speaker 1: not get him out there. So thanks again everyone listening,

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