1 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Welkman's a Lounge presented by Draft Kings. I'm Ryan Ink 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: here with Garrett Downing, and we are through the first 3 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: two days of training camp. We've heard from a lot 4 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: of star players, and we've seen a lot of star 5 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,920 Speaker 1: players on the field, and so we're here to give 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: you our practice takeaways as well as our thoughts on 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: what players and coach Harball have been talking about. So, Garrett, 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 1: two good days of training camp practice, and you know, 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: let's start with just kind of the themes the narratives 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: around this team, and the one that is really just 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: stood out to me so far in these first couple 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: of days is just how about their business kind of 13 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the Ravens are and like just everybody feeling like there's 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: a different tenor a different tone with this year's team. 15 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 1: And John Harball, he talked about it during our interview 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: with him that he feels like this is a really 17 00:00:55,560 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 1: mature team and really determined team, and hearing from the 18 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: players and like seeing the way they're practicing, you do 19 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: feel that. 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 2: It feels competitive, it feels focused, and like I remember 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: we talked after Mini camp, after one of the mini 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 2: camp practices and we said this felt like a mid 23 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 2: October practice, just in terms of how sharp it was 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 2: and how efficient it was, how good it looked like. 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 2: That was what we felt like back in the spring, 26 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 2: and I think it's gone to even another level. And 27 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 2: I think that like there is a real both of 28 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 2: these things I think are true. The Ravens are well 29 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 2: aware of how they have been a great team the 30 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 2: last few years and they have not been able to 31 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: make it to the super Bowl or win it. Okay, 32 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 2: so they're very hyper aware of that fact. They've been 33 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 2: reminded of that and basically every press conference and if 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: they get on social media they get reminded of it 35 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 2: as well. So they're aware of that fact, and so 36 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,760 Speaker 2: they are focused on getting over that hump. However, they 37 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: are also like incredibly focused on like the minute details 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 2: and the process in order to get there. You don't 39 00:01:56,520 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: just wave a magic wand and put yourself back in 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 2: Buffalo in January. Starts now, and I really think that 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: they're they are taking the approach of of course they 42 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: know that that's there and that's the goal, but we 43 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,520 Speaker 2: are focused on today now, getting better right now, and 44 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 2: focusing on those things and not worrying about what is 45 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: to come. 46 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: Down the line. Yeah, and they're also very aware of 47 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 1: the opportunity that they have given the players that they have. Yeah, 48 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: like this they hear it like this is the most 49 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 1: loaded roster in the NFL, the best starting lineup, all 50 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: that stuff, and and people predicting the Ravens are gonna 51 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,119 Speaker 1: win the third straight AFC North title and and all 52 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: that stuff, and yet like and they feel it. Like 53 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: the funny, they know they know that this team is 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,639 Speaker 1: really good. They see it all around them. They see 55 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 1: in practice and it feels like the defense feels like 56 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: it's playing really well in practice, and the offense feels 57 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: like it's it's got playmakers gloring and d hops making 58 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: plays and all day. You know, it's got playmakers everywhere. 59 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: Like they know that they have what it takes, but 60 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: they also know, like they we're all asking them basically, 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: like so what do you you know, how do you 62 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: handle it when everybody's saying you're gonna go to the 63 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: super Bowl? And and do you think this is the 64 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 1: most towns roster? And they're like, yeah, but like we 65 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: can say that, it doesn't mean anything. Yeah, we can 66 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,000 Speaker 1: say that all we want. We can say that, like 67 00:03:12,240 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: we want to get to the super Bowl and this 68 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: is the year, right, and like you don't know until 69 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: you're in that position. And like so I think to 70 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: your point, like they're also. 71 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 2: That. 72 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 1: I think that they're just in the right head space, 73 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 1: like top to bottom. I just really do like and 74 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: and and that's been intentional, you know that, Like they're 75 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 1: grading everything, and they're they're harping it on the fundamentals 76 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: and the details of everything, and and it's like you 77 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 1: can't just say, yeah, we man, we are so hungry 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 1: to get to the super Bowl. You can say that 79 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: all you want, but it doesn't mean anything. 80 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: What's about hunger? 81 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: What's about action? Exactly? What's the action item? And like, 82 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: you know, I thought that Kyle van Noy, who we 83 00:03:52,360 --> 00:03:55,839 Speaker 1: heard from UH today, he's a two time super Bowl 84 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: champion for the New England Patriots. It's just which is 85 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: a franchise that is known for Bill Belichick was known 86 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: for stressing the minute details, fundamentals, Do you have to 87 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: plan diligence all those situational like mastery, like we're gonna 88 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: win the situations and like that's that is in large 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: part and Tom Brady and they had other great players, 90 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 1: but that like fundamental like, performing your best and not 91 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: making mistakes in the most high critical situations is what 92 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 1: led the Patriots to have it win as many Super 93 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: Bowls as they did, And the Ravens are taking that 94 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: approach and like, I just I like it. 95 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 2: Another good example, we had a chance to hear from 96 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 2: Marlon Humphrey and he talked about how there's kind of 97 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:39,480 Speaker 2: a breakfast club group of guys that are working out 98 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 2: at six am, six am on the dot and it's 99 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 2: led by him, Say Flowers and Rashad Bateman, they're kind 100 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: of the leaders of that group. 101 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I'm not doing at six o'clock 102 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: am working working out? 103 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 2: Are you working out at six pm, seven pm, you 104 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: name a time any of the twenty four hours it's 105 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 2: gonna be. 106 00:04:55,960 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: What is it less to do at the time? Well, 107 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 1: my point is like, I'm not even coherent. I'm asleep. 108 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm a sleep at six am, regardless of what time 109 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: they have to wake up to get in here to 110 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 1: be ready to work out at six am. 111 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not making You're not joining the breakfast No, 112 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: I'm not part of the breakfast workout for the breakfast 113 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 2: club led by those key guys on this team starts 114 00:05:12,839 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 2: at six am, and Marlin was being kind of funny 115 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 2: about it, but he said, if you're here at six 116 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: oh one year out, you're booted. You got to wait 117 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 2: till the seven o'clock lift starts. And and the point 118 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: he made, and this quote stood out to me, he said, 119 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 2: we're trying to create an environment where everything matters. Does 120 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 2: it really matter if you're here at six oh one 121 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 2: not six o'clock, No, it doesn't really matter. But you 122 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: let that slip, what else are you gonna let slip? 123 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: And like, that's the accountability, accountability that these team leaders 124 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: are stressing, and I think that everybody has that type 125 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 2: of attitude, and like that's I think the maturity, the accountability, 126 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,680 Speaker 2: the focus. And I really think when we sat down 127 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 2: with coach Harball earlier in the week and he laid 128 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,040 Speaker 2: some of that stuff out, like now we're seeing it 129 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: in action. And that's the thing I think that's so 130 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: encouraging about this team is that it goes beyond just 131 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 2: saying the right things. You have to then do the 132 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: right things and be intentional about the details. And the 133 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 2: Ravens are doing that. 134 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,680 Speaker 1: Right Because if you have as talented of Ross, the 135 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: talent is there, clearly. It's just like, are you going 136 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: to play the best and play clean football when the 137 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: lights are the brightest? Yeah, that's the question, you know. 138 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,479 Speaker 1: And if you're doing all those right things and making 139 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: that a habit, then I think you set yourself up. 140 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't guarantee anything, of course, you know, but you 141 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: set yourself up. You give your best, yourself the best 142 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: chance of success. The other guy who. 143 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 2: I think really did a good job in talking about 144 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 2: this is Lamar, because Lamar, since the moment he was drafted, 145 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 2: just talked about the Super Bowl and like it's no 146 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: question that he badly wants to win and everybody knows it. 147 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: And he's been asked about the super Bowl a million 148 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 2: times and he talked about it openly. Yeah, and so, 149 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 2: but I think that he went kind of the other 150 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 2: direction in his press conference where he said multiple times 151 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying to just take care of the here and 152 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 2: now and be president in the moment. 153 00:06:58,520 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: And trying to have a good training case. 154 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 2: It's the first day of training camp, Like that's what 155 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 2: I'm focused on, the first day of training camp. Like 156 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 2: this isn't We're not playing the super Bowl today, We're 157 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 2: not playing the playoffs today, Like I'm trying to be 158 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: focused on everything that we can do as a team 159 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 2: in training camp to get ready for the season, and 160 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 2: that's where his mind is. He's not thinking, of course, 161 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: that's like the goal for everybody. It's there, it's it's 162 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: of course it's there. But like that's not that's not 163 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 2: the driving motivation factor today and these practices. 164 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: And his quote was, I'm not really trying to think 165 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: about the super Bowl yet. Yeah, Like there's there's time 166 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: for that, and everybody knows that Lamar Jackson's tree, everybody 167 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: knows his motivation. Yeah, But like I like that from 168 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: your leader, you know. I like that, like, you know what, 169 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: let's have Let's have a good training camp here, Let's 170 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: finish it the right way. Let's do all those things 171 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: before we start worrying about the super Bowl. Yeah. 172 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 2: I think it's a I think it's a it's a 173 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 2: mature way of looking at it, and I think it 174 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: it speaks to the team's mindset and where they are 175 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 2: right now. And I think that, like some fans can 176 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 2: confuse that, but I think that that's like the most 177 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 2: the focus and the message there is that like you 178 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: have to do the little things throughout the entire process. 179 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 2: You can't rush the process. You just can't rush the process. 180 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: You have to be good the entire process in order 181 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 2: to get to that end goal. And the Ravens are 182 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 2: focused on that process, not the end goal that everybody 183 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 2: wants to talk about, right. 184 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: And the other news item I thought from yesterday was 185 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: Brokwon Smith. You know, we talked about the talented roster 186 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: that the Ravens have. Brokwon Smith said, I think this 187 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: is the most talented defense that I've been on, which 188 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: says a lot. I mean, the Ravens had the number 189 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: one defense in the league two years ago. Yeah, right, 190 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: last year they were number one down the stretch. But 191 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: like again, also everybody going into last year, myself included, 192 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 1: was like, man, this secondary is absolutely loaded, you know, 193 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: and like it's going to be so great, and then 194 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: it was not. It was thirty second in the league 195 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 1: for the good chunk of the season. And so like 196 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: saying it and I and we heard this from Brokwon 197 00:08:57,200 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 1: and Kyle van Noy, and you know, the defensive leaders 198 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 1: is like saying, it is one thing, you know, but 199 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: like playing together is another thing. You can have all 200 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: these talented pieces and you can have five first round 201 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: picks in your secondary, but if you're not playing together, 202 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: then you're not going to play well. And another level 203 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: of it that Marlon Humphrey spoke to is like, also 204 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: if you're not getting turnovers, then you're not playing up 205 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: to your potential. You can go you know, like he said, 206 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: like you can be a good defense. He said, the 207 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,960 Speaker 1: Ravens had a good practice. The Ravens defense had a 208 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: good practice on day one, but they didn't get any turnovers, 209 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: so it wasn't a great practice. Yeah, Day two, great practice, 210 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: multiple interceptions and so yeah, I think that like this 211 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: defense is looking very good at the start. 212 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: Well, you mentioned rokwand Smith. He is a guy that 213 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 2: has caught my eye these first two days. Like he 214 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: plays with his hair on fire, but and he doesn't 215 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: take practices off, like whenever he steps between the lines, 216 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: like he plays hard. But man, he looks good. He's 217 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: flying to the football. A play that to me shows 218 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: the examp of this. He was running one on one 219 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: on a wheel route with Justice Hill in today's practice 220 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 2: and there aren't many linebackers that could cover Justice Hill 221 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: out of the backfield and he ultimately broke out the 222 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: pass and was running step for step for step with 223 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 2: step for step with him. Yep, And that is an 224 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 2: incredibly difficult task. And I think that that just shows 225 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: like that's and that wasn't the only one. Like he's 226 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 2: been flying to the football. He's everywhere. They're not tackling 227 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 2: to the ground in these first two practices, but he 228 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 2: is in the action on everything, and that play to 229 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: me just showed like how good a position and how 230 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 2: well he's moving. He talked about getting his body and 231 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 2: like and like he focused on his body this offseason 232 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: and so like that to me, that play was an 233 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 2: indication of just well, how well he's moving early in camp. 234 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. A couple other just news items. DeAndre Hopkins didn't 235 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 1: practice on Thursday. John Harball said that was out of 236 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 1: an abundance of caution after he landed on his knee 237 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: during a play on Wednesday. Jake Hummel, Ravens linebacker had 238 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: a non football cut on his hand, so that's why 239 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: he's not practicing. Save Flowers seem to have some kind 240 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 1: of foot and something happened on the first day. Then 241 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: he came back, so no no concerns there. So on 242 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: the injury front, the Ravens are a pretty darn good shape. 243 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 1: Emery Jones, the rookie hasn't practiced yet, and of course 244 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: everybody knows are areas. But just as the news component 245 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 1: of what's going down in training camp. All right, now, 246 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: let's take a break. You talk about Roguan looking good 247 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: out there. I want to talk about some other players 248 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: who have caught our eye in the first two days 249 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: of practice. 250 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: You're listening to the Lounge podcast we are coming to 251 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 2: from the Sea Geek Studio. We also want to mention 252 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: our partners are Draft King Sportsbook. They are an official 253 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 2: sports betting partner of the Baltimore Ravens Draft King Sportsbook. 254 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 2: The crown is yours, So I'll kick it off here. 255 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 2: I don't know who you have on your list, but 256 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 2: the player who I have at the top of my 257 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,319 Speaker 2: list who has stood out to me in these first 258 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: two days is the new coverage. 259 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: I you're out, Ah, you're stole a guy? Did I 260 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: take him right? I stole a guy. 261 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,199 Speaker 2: That's that's what I get. That's the benefit of reading 262 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 2: the break, reading the ads come out of the break 263 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: at the first I get a talk first. But man, 264 00:11:56,440 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 2: he has really impressed me. I think both in terms 265 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 2: of how he's looked and moved, his attitude. We had 266 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 2: a chance to talk with him. His personality is gonna 267 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 2: drive perfectly, gonna he's gonna fit in perfectly in this 268 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 2: secondary and I think he's gonna be a fan favorite. 269 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: And and honestly, like I knew he had like swagger 270 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 2: and energy and charisma, but it's even to another level 271 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 2: that I was not aware of. 272 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: I was. 273 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 2: I was standing on the field when he walked out 274 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 2: to the practice field for his first practice. He walked 275 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,440 Speaker 2: out with DeAndre Hopkins. They dapped each other up, and 276 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 2: then Jaiir did the seat belt celebration right to the 277 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,840 Speaker 2: camera as he made his way onto the field for 278 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 2: his first practice. And I'm like, that is the kind 279 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 2: of energy that I love, Like doing the seat belt 280 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 2: celebration before you before you even take the field. That 281 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 2: is the energy that that I that I love, and 282 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: like he he maintained that throughout practice these first two days, 283 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: and I just think I thought he was a good signing, like, 284 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 2: go man, this is exciting. But in a limited amount 285 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 2: of practice work here two days, I'm like, he's gonna 286 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 2: be even better than I expected. 287 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: You know, all there's like click it or ticket, you know, 288 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 1: seat belt advertising to get to Oh my god, he's 289 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: going to be the poster boy. It's gonna be seat 290 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: belt Central. Ill but hear this, I think we're going 291 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: to see that a lot. Uh yeah, I mean after 292 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: practice just talking to him, it's such an engaging personality. 293 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: And you know, he said one thing I'm always going 294 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 1: to do, I'm going to bring that juice and like 295 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: you see it in practice. I mean he made a 296 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: really nice play in his first practice, covering Dayton Wade 297 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: and going up and kind of make breaking up a 298 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: deep pass along the sideline and just you know, seat 299 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: belt to the crowd. And you know, I thought it 300 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 1: was funny. His comment today about how he's said, I 301 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: think I'm a pretty weird guy, but I think Marlin's 302 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: got me beat. He might be more weird than I am. Yeah, 303 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, coming he's part of the breakfast club, coming 304 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: in at the six am workouts, except he's got a 305 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: huge boombox and his blast of music right in his ears. 306 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: He's doing it, yeah, like honestly, And and he said this, 307 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: he said, I'm in love with with Baltimore with the Ravens, 308 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 1: and like I'm in the right place. And he just 309 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,559 Speaker 1: seems like a perfect thing in every way so far, 310 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: and got how many how many guys like, can we 311 00:14:03,679 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: say this right? Derek Henry last year perfect fit? Yeah, 312 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: Malachi Starks check every box, a perfect fit, you know. 313 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 1: I mean, DeAndre Hopkins seems like a perfect fit. Jiyu 314 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: Alexander seems like a perfect fit. 315 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: Well, he said, like when he came here to sign, 316 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: before he signed. 317 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: He wasn't so sure he was signing. He was like, 318 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: it was a visit. It was a true visit. 319 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:25,840 Speaker 2: Yes, it wasn't like, all right, just come in here 320 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 2: and put your name on the paper and that's make 321 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:29,120 Speaker 2: this ficial. Like it was a visit. And he said 322 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: that he's big on vibes and and said the vibes 323 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 2: don't lie. And when he was in the building, he 324 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: just felt like this was the place he wanted to 325 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 2: be and that had come to Lamar factor was obvious. 326 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: That was a big factor. Also got him in the 327 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: door to a degree. I mean a the Ravens are 328 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: a great team. He was a free agent looking for 329 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: a team. Uh see, I don't know what order this is, 330 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: but Lamar and then he got in the door and 331 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'd like to play with Lamar and 332 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: the Ravens and all this stuff. And then he got 333 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,000 Speaker 1: in the door and he felt like it was just 334 00:14:57,040 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 1: like a great place to be, Like it just they 335 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: wanted him. He he liked it here, and I think 336 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: that he's going to continue to fit in very well 337 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: here on and off the field. 338 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: Another example that stood out to me there was a 339 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 2: play in practice on the first day and balal Kone, 340 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 2: the rookie, kind of broke up a pass down the field. 341 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 2: Him and tes Walker went up for it, and Jai 342 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 2: Year from like thirty yards away starts running down the 343 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: field kind of lasso and celebrating the pass breakup. And 344 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: like it's not like it was a huge moment in 345 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:31,600 Speaker 2: practice or something, but like as he said, like one 346 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: thing about him, he's he's going to bring that energy 347 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: and like that is real. He is doing that in 348 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 2: these practices and talking to everybody like he is active. 349 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 2: For one period, I was just watching him and like 350 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: he's talking to everybody. He's talking to Marlin, he's talking 351 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 2: to Kyle, he's talking to the rookies. He's celebrating other 352 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 2: players coming up with big plays. Like that's the kind 353 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 2: of energy that is exciting to see. 354 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: And now this is a little bit of a tangent here, 355 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 1: but honestly that's a credit to the Ravens organization John Harbaugh, 356 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 1: and the culture that is set here is like, and 357 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: that's why so many of these guys fit in well 358 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 1: and are perfect fits, is because there really is an 359 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: intentionality about letting people and players be who they are 360 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 1: and like, you know, Marlon Humphrey, for example, is a 361 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: unique cat. Yeah right, and like letting him show his 362 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 1: personality and be himself, and like, that's why so many 363 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: guys who have signed here like it here and why 364 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: it's worked out for So that's part of the reason 365 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: why it's worked out for so many of these thirty 366 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: plus year old signings, where like other teams like, eh, 367 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: I don't know how much this guy's got left and 368 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: he comes to Baltimore and a, yeah, he still has 369 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: some left and you get the best out of him 370 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: in part because they just like being here. 371 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a culture thing. There's a lot 372 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 2: of examples of that. Like Steve Smith was one of 373 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: the first ones that really stood out to me in 374 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,560 Speaker 2: that regard, is like a huge personality. Yeah, who came 375 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 2: here with like, you know, obviously a great resume, but like, 376 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: how's he gonna fit in, Like what's the dynamic gonna be? 377 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 2: And then like he fit in great, and he said, 378 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 2: like he talked a lot about that. Eric Weddle was 379 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: another one, big personality like Wallace, you know, Mike Wallace, 380 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: but like those guys came in and they said that 381 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 2: they allow you to be yourself here. And honestly, Steve 382 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 2: and Weddle were the two that stood out to me 383 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: as like guys that that came in here and felt 384 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 2: like this was a place where they could be themselves 385 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: home and they could it could be the best version 386 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: of themselves. 387 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: And I see that with Ja and he said it 388 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 1: even today, you know. I mean he's pretty new around here, 389 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, the culture is different in Green Bay. 390 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: And look, we don't know what the culture is like 391 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: in Green Bay, so we can't speak to that. I'm sure, 392 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 1: you know, they're a great franchise, they probably have a 393 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: great culture, but it's different here according to Jaiir, who 394 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 1: does know, and you know, he just said like, yeah, 395 00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit different. And part of that 396 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: was like we work like yeah, he works that. Yeah, 397 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: we're working and and so I just I just think 398 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: that it's been like a plus across the board for Jay. Yeah, 399 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 1: really excited about that. Another guy who stands out to. 400 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 2: Me, Oh, you gotta take my guy. 401 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Now we'll see flowers. 402 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 2: Ah, now you returned the favorite. We did not compare 403 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: notes before the podcast. Yeah, Zay has been like really active. 404 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 2: I mean the first ball that he caught at training 405 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 2: camp he probably took for what it's. 406 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: Taken for a touchdown. I mean it was like a 407 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, ten to fifteen yard crosser and he 408 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: just got that thing and then just hit another gear 409 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: and ran away and threw everybody. And he looks fast 410 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:26,639 Speaker 1: as ever, explosive, Uh yeah, and active like getting the ball. 411 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: He's gotten the ball a lot, and honestly, like more 412 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: so than I remember him, more balls than I remember 413 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: him catching last year in training camp and that whatever. 414 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, I don't know how indicative 415 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: of that is of what's going to happen during the season, 416 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,200 Speaker 1: because they're gonna spread out the targets. But like I'll 417 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: tell you, he looks good. And Tory Smith tweeted, Yeah, 418 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: if you haven't gone to watch it, watch our one 419 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: on one, yeah with a legend, and he and Tory 420 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 1: Smith sat down and Tory Smith said, it's going to 421 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: be a big year for Zay Flowers. 422 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a really cool conversation. We've got that 423 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 2: posted on YouTube and it's just a two great players 424 00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: talking about what it means to play receiver here and 425 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 2: so go check that out. But I agree with you say, 426 00:19:05,280 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 2: has has jumped out to me and he's catching balls 427 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 2: down the field as well, like some of these like 428 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: play action over the middle of the field. It's not 429 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 2: just like catching runs like he's come up with some 430 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,880 Speaker 2: big plays now. He also has had some nice catching 431 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: runs like the one that you're talking about where he 432 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 2: caught it was more of a crosser and he just 433 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 2: made it, taken that seventy yards to the house and 434 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: outran everybody. So it's a little bit of everything with him. 435 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 2: But I really do like what I'm seeing from him. 436 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: Pro Bowl receiver last year, and it's like he could 437 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 2: be even better. And it's funny we're talking and we're 438 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 2: out there at practice watching today and it's like it's 439 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 2: been kind of a quiet start for Bateman. Then boom, 440 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 2: Bateman next play, big play down the field, like Bateman 441 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: had the biggest play of the day today, perfect ball 442 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 2: from Lamar Jackson dropped in a bucket between Nate Wiggins 443 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 2: and and Kyle Hamilton and Bateman got openside. 444 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: It was fretty. 445 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 2: I mean, that was a big play touchdown down the field, 446 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 2: and that was just a great throw from Lamar and 447 00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 2: a great route and catch by bait Yep. 448 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think both side, the offense and defensive look good. 449 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that there's been one that's really like 450 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 1: run the show, yeah, which is what you want to see, honestly. Yeah, 451 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna now I have a little bit 452 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 1: of a sleeper pick for you, Okay, Alex sleeper picks 453 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:16,880 Speaker 1: is an undrafted rookie. 454 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: Okay, that's a sleeper pick. 455 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: Defensive back Ruben Lowry. Okay, Okay, yeah, I see I 456 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: didn't take this one from this got a pick today. 457 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: Undrafted rookie. He's he flashed during OTAs, he flashed during 458 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: mini camp. Like this guy just like keeps making plays. 459 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: And so look, we've talked about how tight this roster is. 460 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: Can can undrafted rookie make the team, especially when you 461 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: have eleven drafted rookies. It's tough. It's gonna be very, 462 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: very tough. But I'm telling you, you make a play 463 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:53,200 Speaker 1: a day. As John Harball says all the time, make 464 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: a play a day, give yourself a chance. And you know, 465 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: you look at Rubin on the field five to nine. 466 00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: You know, two hundred and four pounds eat the biggest guy, certainly, 467 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: you know, but Arders Washington won the biggest guy either 468 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: he made the team. 469 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 2: Kind of a long history of late round or undrafted 470 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,640 Speaker 2: safety is making the team. You don't have to look 471 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,240 Speaker 2: too far. I mean Sonoosy Kane and Bo Braid both. 472 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 1: Made it last year. Darius was seventh round. 473 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, late round around drafted. 474 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 2: Gino Stone was another example. Ar Darius Washington another example. 475 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 2: Like there's been a lot of guys and and a 476 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,239 Speaker 2: lot of times. If you can prove yourself and make 477 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 2: plays like that, and then you can also prove yourself 478 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 2: on special teams. We're like this guy could play special teams. 479 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: That would be the kind of the question, you know, 480 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: five nine, Like he's not the big physical guy that 481 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: you really want, but yeah, if he's got enough speed 482 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:37,439 Speaker 1: to be a gunner, if he can get off of 483 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, out of the Clampson as a gunner, We're 484 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: getting in the weeds now a little bit, but you know, like, yeah, 485 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: if he can play especial, seems he's got a chance. 486 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: How did he look to see Chattanooga? 487 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: How did he look a gunner? I know you were 488 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 2: really paying attention to his gunner. 489 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: Of course I was, because I'm big Jay journalists. Of 490 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: course it was. 491 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: I'll go with another safety and that's the first round pick, 492 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 2: Malachi Starks. I thought today's practice was one of his best, 493 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,159 Speaker 2: maybe his best. He came up with an interception. It 494 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: was hard to tell if he got he was inbounds, 495 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 2: but like, it was weird. 496 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 1: There's no reaction from the team or the fans, but 497 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 1: we were all like, I'm pretty sure that was like 498 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,200 Speaker 1: clearly in bounds. It was a weird. 499 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 2: It was tough to tell, but it was during full 500 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,639 Speaker 2: team drills eleven on eleven. It was kind of an 501 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 2: overthrow in the end zone and Malachi came down with 502 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 2: the ball. And also earlier in the day he made 503 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 2: a nice play breaking on a ball it was Charlie 504 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: Kohler over the middle and seven on seven that he 505 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 2: batted down. 506 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: It's just like a quick break on it. I mean, 507 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: not a short pass, Like you gotta be reading and 508 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: reacting pretty darn fast to make that play, especially seven 509 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: on seven. 510 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: And that's what what I'm liking is that I'm seeing 511 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 2: him have good instincts and be in the right place 512 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 2: and then make a play on the ball when he's there. 513 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: And we saw the ball. 514 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,000 Speaker 2: Making, you know, playmaking ability when he was in college. 515 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 2: But I think a big piece for a rookie who's 516 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 2: into the situation that he is, you want to see 517 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 2: him being in the right place at the right time, 518 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 2: and then clearly saw that in today's practice and that 519 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 2: was really that was encouraging for him. 520 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 1: Yep, I agree. All right. Another player for me, Keaton Mitchell. 521 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm he's on my list too, dude. 522 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: He looks crazy fast. Again. 523 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 2: Well, there was one play where he ran right in 524 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 2: front of us and both you and I took out 525 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: the pen and paper on that piece and was like, 526 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 2: Mitchell is fast right. 527 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 1: The right side turned the corner on that one. Yeah, Like, 528 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, the more I watch him, and this is 529 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: again a carryover from ot as a mini camp, where 530 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: I thought he looked really good and when I first 531 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: talked to him, and he feels like he's back, and 532 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 1: he said, even his speed numbers, the stats show it 533 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 1: like I'm running back at my top speeds again, if 534 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: not even a little bit faster, is what he said. 535 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,160 Speaker 1: And so this is a carryover. And honestly, like, the 536 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,640 Speaker 1: more that I watch him practice, and if he can 537 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 1: stay healthy and knock on wood and like and keep 538 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: on this trajectory, like he's gonna be He's gonna be 539 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:48,120 Speaker 1: a piece in this offense. I think that a while ago, 540 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,479 Speaker 1: we were all kind of saying, man, can they get 541 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 1: him a few touches and you know, he'll be the 542 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: kick returner, and like, can you sprinkle him in? And like, 543 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: the more I watch him, I'm like, it ain't a 544 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: running back duo anymore. It's a three headed monster. Uh huh. 545 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,679 Speaker 1: I mean, like he could be a piece. 546 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, And as we've said every time we talk about him, 547 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 2: he doesn't. He doesn't need ten carries to make an impact, 548 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 2: Like he has the ability to take it to the 549 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: house every time, and so I don't think that he 550 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: needs to be a volume player in order to have 551 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 2: an impact. Yeah, But I get your point, which is like, 552 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 2: but it might be so good you want some volume. 553 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, but maybe you do want him to 554 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:24,959 Speaker 1: get ten carries, you know, Like I mean, we all 555 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: see Justice and what he can do as a receiver, 556 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 1: and I think he will continue end as a blocker, 557 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: pass protector, all that stuff, like he's so good in that. 558 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: But like, you know, I think that Keaton could take 559 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: a chunk out of the carries that Justice got last season. 560 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: Not that Justice got a ton. Derrick Henry's a bell cow, 561 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 1: but also like he could take a little bit off 562 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,479 Speaker 1: of Derek Henry's plate potentially. I mean, Dereck Henry's a machine, 563 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: you know, he's unlike any other, But like, can you 564 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,919 Speaker 1: keep him a little bit fresher a little bit and 565 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 1: give this speedster some carries? Like it's whatever's best for 566 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: the team. And and honestly, the way that Keaton Mitchell 567 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: is practicing right now, having him on the field and 568 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: giving him some chances is going to be best for 569 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 1: the team. 570 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: It reminds me of when he was a rookie when 571 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 2: we all said, like that guy is faster than everybody else. 572 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: Give the ball. 573 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 2: That guy, he is faster, and like he's going to 574 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 2: be somebody to watch and he earned himself a spot 575 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 2: that year, and I think it's a similar type of 576 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: thing right now. Another guy that I'll point to is 577 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: kind of been a forgotten man when we talk about 578 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: the secondary is a Cheetoh Woozier. I think that he's 579 00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,480 Speaker 2: looked pretty good to me. He's taken a lot of 580 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: he's running with that first team and getting an opportunity 581 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 2: to go out there like prove himself. He was nicked 582 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 2: up at times during the off season programs like we 583 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: didn't see a ton of him and we just spent 584 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 2: all the time talking about Jay Year. I'm like, not 585 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,639 Speaker 2: backtracking on any of that is awesome, but I just 586 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 2: think that, like the Ravens signed Cheeto this offseason, they 587 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 2: feel like he's going to be a nice piece in 588 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 2: this defense. He's going to play a big role, and 589 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: I've been encouraged by what I've seen from him out there. 590 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: Yep, Trent and Simpson all right as well. Got an 591 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: interception in today's practice. Goodness, call it kind of a 592 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: tip ball and good to see him make a play 593 00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: on the ball. And I just think like he does 594 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,199 Speaker 1: look more decisive, he looks better. I thought he just 595 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,919 Speaker 1: had a really good practice. Roquan Smith just sung his 596 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:09,239 Speaker 1: praises after working with him for a lot of the 597 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: offseason and and really feels like Trenton is primed to 598 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,360 Speaker 1: make a big jump in year three. Yeah, totally. 599 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 2: One other note is that kicker obviously a big competition 600 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: in training camp between the rookies, Tyler Loop and John Hoyland. 601 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:25,879 Speaker 2: On Wednesday, they both kicked. On Thursday, Tyler Loop did 602 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 2: not kick. John Hoylan kicked, and so there's gonna be 603 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,080 Speaker 2: a rotation between them over the course of camp. Not 604 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,400 Speaker 2: sure exactly what that's going to look like, but they 605 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 2: are going to rotate days. Loop didn't miss a kick 606 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,400 Speaker 2: at all on Wednesdays, six for six yeah, so good 607 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: start for him. 608 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,879 Speaker 1: Soylan missed one on the first day. I think it 609 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: was a forty yarder. Yeah. Then Hoyland came back today 610 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 1: and made all of his kicks yep. So good start 611 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: for the rookie kickers yep. 612 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: And again that's there's gonna be a rotation there and 613 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 2: so it's gonna be day by day, but that's gonna 614 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: be when we're watching closely. 615 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: Yep. Well, thank you for listening. As always, you can 616 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 1: reach us at the lounge at raven nfl dot net. 617 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: A lot more practice to watch, and we will have 618 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,880 Speaker 1: all the takeaways for you to keep it right here