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Speaker 1: Let's go back to the phones. Let's go to Alan

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Speaker 1: and Laying Castor. We got first. Alan, Yeah, hi, Um,

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Speaker 1: I want to comment on the last caller first, that

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Speaker 1: not the call of the comment to label Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: a failure at any respect in regard to football. It's

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Speaker 1: completely outrageous. I just wanted to make that comment, Okay, Yeah, Um.

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Speaker 1: I also want to say that Steve, I'm gonna retired

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Speaker 1: Skiah trust and I want to tell you, Steve that

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Speaker 1: your schiatric analysis of Aaron Rodgers I think is absolutely

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Speaker 1: right on that If you want to say Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 1: is not good at something. It's in regard to managing

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Speaker 1: his life. And I think, Steve, in your next life,

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Speaker 1: you should become a psychiatrist. There you go. I think

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Speaker 1: you miss I think you missed your calling. That's very

436
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Speaker 1: sensitivity to what he's going through. I think people lack

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Speaker 1: even though he has all this fame, he is struggling

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Speaker 1: in his life. The man does not know what to do.

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Speaker 1: And Steve, you got it right on. You called it perfectly,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate your compassion as a human being to

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Another level football, which is what's really important.

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Speaker 1: The Bills need a cornerback, I think in the worst way.

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Speaker 1: And if they get if they didn't match Tredavious with

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Speaker 1: a number one car a number one corner, they've got

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Speaker 1: the best defensive backfield and football. And I think given

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Speaker 1: the quarterbacks today play against this would be a potent weapons.

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Speaker 1: Thank you and I'll listen to your response. I appreciate

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Speaker 1: the nice words you said about me missing my calling,

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Speaker 1: but I appreciate that. And also I almost laughed when

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Speaker 1: he said the Bills need a corner because Brownie has

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Speaker 1: been pounding a drum for corner to me. Like before

452
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Speaker 1: the show today, I was I was on here looking

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Speaker 1: at I was looking at Highlightweight. Let me just say

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Speaker 1: I was looking at high Rights. They got Kyler. Gordon's

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Speaker 1: my favorite washing it's your favorite guy. Okay, So Alan,

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Speaker 1: you are reading. You're a good psychiatrist because you're reading

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Speaker 1: our minds. We were at basically we were we were

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Speaker 1: having the exact conversation you want to have. And he's right,

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Speaker 1: I have always I don't. I'm not gonna put myself

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Speaker 1: in I hate doing it because they're always better than me.

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Speaker 1: The Bills draft philosophies and what they do on draft Day,

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Speaker 1: I've always you know, marveled at. Certainly they you know,

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Speaker 1: they it's hard for them to hit them, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at the guys they've got, and the reason

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Speaker 1: this team is a contender for the super Bowl isn't

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Speaker 1: their first one or two drafts that they ever had

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Speaker 1: a chance to take a swing at. Yeah, Tredavious, Tremaine, Josh,

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Speaker 1: you go down the list. You know, now they've you know,

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Speaker 1: I've got some guys that are okay, but Matt Milano, Dawson,

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Speaker 1: Knox first round pick, Gabe Davis, Dawkins, Yeah, Dion Tawkins.

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Speaker 1: And I'll say another thing too, Tarren Johnson's been a

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Speaker 1: great fine so has uh. It was a fourth round pick,

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Speaker 1: and the signings of Levi Wallace. So they've got some

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Speaker 1: guys and certainly, you know, and I think this is

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Speaker 1: a topic for another day. I'll get digressed very far.

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Speaker 1: Most teams understand. Smart teams understand they're not gonna hit

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Speaker 1: on any more draft picks than anybody else. What you

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Speaker 1: do is you get more of them. Um So if

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Speaker 1: you hit, you know, if you get more, attack hit

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Speaker 1: on the same percentage. Yeah, you attack it with volume.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants more picks because they know if the more

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Speaker 1: guys you get, the more chance you're gonna have to

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Speaker 1: develop them and all that. And the Bills are in

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Speaker 1: that boat. They've They've hit on a bunch of guys.

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Speaker 1: They've also missed on some guys. But the simple fact

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Speaker 1: of the matter is the reason they're sitting there as

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Speaker 1: Scuper Bowl contenders is because they drafted guys. So and

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Speaker 1: all that I'm saying this, I don't know if I

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Speaker 1: want them to draft a corner high like with the

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Speaker 1: twenty fifth pick, And I don't know they will unless

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Speaker 1: there's a corner out there that's one of those like

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Speaker 1: six you're talking about six three two fifteen runs a

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Speaker 1: four to three freakishly fast athletes and the like exactly.

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Speaker 1: They like traits traits athletes. They when we say trade,

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Speaker 1: and I don't know if everybody knows what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: that means bigger, stronger, faster, a guy who you look

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Speaker 1: at and go, oh my gosh, physically guy physically a unicorn,

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Speaker 1: like a Spencer Brown, a Tremaine Edmonds, Allen, Greg Russo,

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Turnavius White. Those guys when they walk in

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Speaker 1: the room, you're going, huh, there's a pro athlete. Guys

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Speaker 1: like that, right, So if they get a corner, that's

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Speaker 1: what I'm looking at. Yeah, but early, yes, if they draft.

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Speaker 1: My philosophy has been this, and they've done this over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years as well, because football is

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Speaker 1: always a game of physicality. Even today when the old

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Speaker 1: times will say adds a soft game, these guys nine

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Speaker 1: add they're protect Let me just tell you something. They

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Speaker 1: always get them bigger, bigger, and faster. To me is

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Speaker 1: bigger guys are always better guys. For a couple of reasons,

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Speaker 1: and I won't get into but I think the team

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Speaker 1: has shown they kind of believe that too. They draft

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Speaker 1: unicorns physical physically, and then they trust their coaching staff

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Speaker 1: to get it out of them. I think they'll continue

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Speaker 1: to do that, especially at the top of the drift,

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Speaker 1: especially at the top first second round. That's the kind

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Speaker 1: of people there. So if they do take a corner,

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Speaker 1: the guy gonna look like a corner yeah, or he

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Speaker 1: may look like a power forward at corner. At corner yeah,

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Speaker 1: one of those guys, right. And I think the only

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Speaker 1: thing that keeps them from taking a corner in round

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Speaker 1: one is if the board falls a certain way, if

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Speaker 1: there's an early run the value isn't right, or if

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Speaker 1: there is a guy a shortage and another need position

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Speaker 1: and the value matches up because the crop is deep

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Speaker 1: this year at cornerback where you can afford to wait

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Speaker 1: around and still get a pretty good guy in round two.

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Speaker 1: So does that prompt you to look at another position

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Speaker 1: that you might be looking to fill that isn't quite

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Speaker 1: as deep, like defensive tackle, like you know, something like that.

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Speaker 1: That's one thing that could Veery off the road there.

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Speaker 1: More important than anything, though, is our Twitter conversation we

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Speaker 1: were talking about Aaron Rodgers. We're going to dovetail that

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Speaker 1: into some other stuff because I think after last year's

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Speaker 1: quarterback carousel with players on the move not only via

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Speaker 1: a free agency but by some blockbuster trades Carson Wentz,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff, Matthew Stafford, there is the propensity to see

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Speaker 1: that again this offseason. Despite the fact that it sounds

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Speaker 1: like Rogers is going to be going back to Green Bay,

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Speaker 1: there are other quarterbacks that can be on the move.

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Speaker 1: So with that in mind, we're asking you, how do

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Speaker 1: you want to see the NFL quarterback carousel play out

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Speaker 1: this off season and why, and then includes a Buffalo

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Speaker 1: Bills player who will be a free agent by the

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Speaker 1: name of Mitchell Trubisky. So feel free to weigh in

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Speaker 1: at eight oh three five fifty one eight eight five

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Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. While we take a break, Steve

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Speaker 1: will work on his psychology paper on properly identifying wild

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Speaker 1: donkeys as personalities in humans, and we'll be back with

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Speaker 1: more here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalaida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, Welcome back to one

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Speaker 1: Bills Live. Chris Brown, Steve Jasker with you here on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday, talking quarterback carousel for this offseason, and there's

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Speaker 1: a bunch of names that could be on the move.

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Speaker 1: As always, naturally you have your free agents, but there's

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Speaker 1: there are reports out of Minnesota today that the Carolina

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Speaker 1: Panthers called the Minnesota Vikings inquiring as to the availability

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Speaker 1: of one Kirk Cousins, and it doesn't sound like they're

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Speaker 1: interested in moving him right now, especially because their new

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Speaker 1: head coach, Kevin O'Connell has a previous coaching relationship with

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Speaker 1: Cousins from their days together in Washington, so that would

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Speaker 1: seem to keep that marriage together. But you never know

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Speaker 1: the fact that they answered the phone and talked. You

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Speaker 1: know they're listening, I guess, for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 1: because they do want to reduce his cap figure this year.

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Speaker 1: And then you have the Russell Wilson saga out in Seattle,

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Speaker 1: the guy who listed three teams that he'd be willing

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Speaker 1: to play for if the team decided to move on

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Speaker 1: from him. But you think he also has a no

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Speaker 1: trade clause. So there's a bunch of movement that could

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Speaker 1: once again happen at the team. And you know at

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Speaker 1: the sports most important position. So we want to know

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Speaker 1: what you'd be interested in seeing unfold in that regard

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Speaker 1: going forward, including Mitchell Trubisky, where you'd like to see

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Speaker 1: him land knowing he'll probably be in line for a

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Speaker 1: starting job. He's really interesting to me because Bills, of

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Speaker 1: course have a pretty good I have good feelings about him.

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Speaker 1: He came in and was a part of this team

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Speaker 1: that that you know, got into the playoffs and was

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Speaker 1: backing up Josh Alan. We only saw it. We didn't

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Speaker 1: even see him except for the preseason a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: But there's you look around the league and there's a

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Speaker 1: couple of teams all of a sudden, I mean, I like,

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Speaker 1: here's this. I like Mitch Drubisky much better than like

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Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. I think he's a better option at this

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Speaker 1: point in their careers. And you look at all these

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Speaker 1: other guys that are out there, Fitzpatrick, you go down

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Speaker 1: the list, you know, um, Andy Dalton, guys that are

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Speaker 1: bouncing around now that we're starmers, starters at one point

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Speaker 1: or whatever. I think Mitch Drubisky has more intriguing possibilities

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Speaker 1: than those other guys. Teddy Bridgewater, you know you go

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Speaker 1: down the list, and I'll say this, Drubisky is still young,

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Speaker 1: and he's got a chance to, you know, shake off

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Speaker 1: what happened in Chicago. He's got a little something something

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Speaker 1: coming in because he played with Josh Allen for a

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Speaker 1: year and he's part of Brian Daybole this offense that

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Speaker 1: was absolutely like it was like a rocket ship at

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Speaker 1: the end of the season's And he's got some traits. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's an athlete. I don't think there's any question about

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Speaker 1: got some traits. He's not done have Josh Allen traits.

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Speaker 1: But the reason they brought him in was because he's

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Speaker 1: that kind of guy. He was closer to that than

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Speaker 1: the previous guy, Matt Barkley. Yeah, he's a big, strong

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Speaker 1: athlete who can throw it. So you look at teams like,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's way younger than Tannehill. He's he's he's

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Speaker 1: out there and if he wants to, if Justin wants

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Speaker 1: to come in and compete, which is all anybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: guarantee him, Right, he's not gonna be signed as the

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Speaker 1: you're our guy. Well, I mean, you never know. Washington's

609
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 1: in desperate need for a starting quarter. But that's my point. Though,

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Speaker 1: you know, Tampa Bay, what are they doing think about?

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Speaker 1: This is New Orleans bringing Jameis Winston back. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: think they will because he was playing pretty well. He's

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Speaker 1: a free agent coming off an ACL Injurhan. That's right. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: here's my point. Trubisky, all he wants to say, just

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Speaker 1: let me come in and compete. That's that's the most

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Speaker 1: he could ask for. He was a back. Yes, but

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Speaker 1: there are teams that would say, like Denver, Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: can come in and compete here. You got a chance

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Speaker 1: to start there. Yeah, he's got a chance to start

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Speaker 1: in Washington, start in New Orleans, chance to start in Washington, Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Just come in and give him a shot. He goes

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Speaker 1: and if if if Vegas said you come in and

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Speaker 1: compete with Derek Carr if you want, he might jump

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Speaker 1: at that. Yeah. Um, I mean there's there was a

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Speaker 1: spots out there, right. There was an interesting rite up

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Speaker 1: on Trubisky on ESPN dot com. They actually got a

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Speaker 1: hold of Jordan Poyer and asked him should he be

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Speaker 1: a starting quarterback in the league. Jordan Poyer had a

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Speaker 1: three word answer, one thousand percent um. He talked about

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Speaker 1: how Drubisky be running scout team quarterback and the Bill's defense,

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Speaker 1: which was number one in the league this year. To

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Speaker 1: a man, we're saying, there's no way this guys should

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Speaker 1: be running scout team. Here's the thing. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: quartered in this article from from ESPN. He said, listen,

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Speaker 1: he he was the highest draft guy drafted ever in

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears history at quarterback number two overall. He was.

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Speaker 1: He was in the Pro Bowl his second year in

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Speaker 1: the league, but then in four year four he was benched.

639
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Speaker 1: And this is the Mattineggy era in Chicago, who you know,

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Speaker 1: they never He and Rubisky thought he was playing a

641
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Speaker 1: little bit robotically in Chicago, and then you can imagine

642
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Speaker 1: what he thinks now after watching Josh Allen playing Buffalo

643
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Speaker 1: for you. Well, I think he saw how Josh struck

644
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: a balance between knowing when to play within the structure

645
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Speaker 1: of the offense and knowing when to improvise a little bit.

646
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Speaker 1: And he that's why he mentioned the robotic thing. He said,

647
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Speaker 1: I was too committed to the structure of the scheme.

648
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Speaker 1: And I think, and I think probably saw how a

649
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Speaker 1: guy like day Ball handles a quarterback in relation to

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Speaker 1: the way Naggi handled his quarterbacks or the guys in

651
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Speaker 1: Chicago handled their quarterback and Trubisky we're talking about, and

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Speaker 1: they're whatever differences there were, and there's probably some similarities

653
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Speaker 1: but also some differences. And Trubisky's going, Okay, Now I

654
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Speaker 1: get a little idea of I've seen Josh be a

655
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Speaker 1: franchise quarterback, and he's willing to accept this and this

656
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Speaker 1: and this. But he has a real strong voice in this,

657
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 1: this and this, and I never had any of that

658
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Speaker 1: or some of it. And this is important. So if

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, if I get a chance to compete

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Speaker 1: and I make it am a starter, I got a

661
00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: better shot at it now having seen what I've seen

662
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Speaker 1: in Buffalo. You know what I'm saying. I think I

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00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: think this year, I mean, he I gotta tip my

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Speaker 1: hat to him. We all thought it at the time.

665
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Speaker 1: We haven't said it for a while. He made an

666
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: incredibly wise move coming to Buffalo, take a year and

667
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Speaker 1: then jump back in. He trusted Brandon Bean and he

668
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: trusted Brian Dable and he's probably better for it. I

669
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Speaker 1: think he's better for it going into this year. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think he used twenty twenty one to reset yourself,

671
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Speaker 1: put yourself on a bet course to a more successful

672
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: opportunity to start again in this league. And I think,

673
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 1: to a man, he did that. Yeah. I mean the

674
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 1: proof will be in the pudding if and when he

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Speaker 1: gets this opportunity somewhere in twenty twenty two. But he's

676
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 1: got to feel better about him his ability to manage

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Speaker 1: his role on the team going forward. Then I think

678
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Speaker 1: I think he has a healthier respect for what the

679
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 1: coordinator slash quarterbacks coach to quarterback interplay and interaction needs

680
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: to be on a week to week basis, when it's

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Speaker 1: healthy and yes, and when it's given take and what

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: that looks like. I think he has a better sense

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Speaker 1: of that now having been here, because he had that

684
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Speaker 1: he had his second year when he went to the

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. His first year in I believe was there

686
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Speaker 1: like twelve and four year with Naggie and they got

687
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: the double jink out of the playoffs. Right. That was

688
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 1: his rookie season, right, I think that was his second year.

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Speaker 1: Was that his second year? I think it was right,

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00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: So still young in his career, right, And so I

691
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:02,480
Speaker 1: think now, yeah, he's got to really feel like now

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Speaker 1: he could step on the gas, let's go to the

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Speaker 1: phones where Tom and cheek Dowaga is waiting, what do

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Speaker 1: you got first time? Hey guys, how you guys doing today?

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Speaker 1: Just let you know, Steve, the last time I talk

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Speaker 1: to you, I was actually calling you from Budapest, Hungary.

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Speaker 1: You flipped out. But I just want to say, Trubisky

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Speaker 1: he's going to be a starter somewhere else. We know that.

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Speaker 1: So it's time to bring in Fitzpatrick. Get the fitzmatch

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Speaker 1: magic back into Buffalo. And not only that, I think

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00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 1: you guys going back to where the cornerback situation, defensive tackles,

702
00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: where the Buffalo Bills need to be because I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you stop the run, you go in places. I mean,

704
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,399
Speaker 1: look at Cincinnati. Cincinnati wasn't a die hard throw team.

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00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: They were a run team, and they ended up going

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Speaker 1: to the super Bowl. If you have an offense that

707
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 1: is just pass happy and a defense that stops the

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Speaker 1: pass and not the run, they're just not going to succeed.

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Speaker 1: My biggest fear that this past year was against Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I really didn't want to play Tennessee in the playoffs

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00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: because they were gonna run all over everybody. I just

712
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Speaker 1: wanted to touch base on that and see what your

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Speaker 1: thoughts are. Yeah, I don't have a problem with it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if if the guy can really play, you're

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Speaker 1: right ultimately if a team and we saw it here

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Speaker 1: in Buffalo, to the detriment of our team when they

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Speaker 1: played in a forty mile in hour wins against New England,

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Speaker 1: if you can't stop the run at all or well enough, yeah,

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Speaker 1: pro football teams don't care. I don't care. If they

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Speaker 1: do have Aaron Rodgers, you can't stop the run, They're

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Speaker 1: gonna run it forty seven times and throw it three.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it works. That's what they do. And

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Speaker 1: you know I said it after that game. You tip

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Speaker 1: your hat to the to the Patriots coaching staff for

725
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 1: not even like even wavering from it because it was

726
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: a close game and they were comfortable in that close game.

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00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: They Mac Jones. That's the way they played all year.

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00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: They were comfy there. Everybody else wants to jump out

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00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: to a double digit trip, you know, lead a three

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00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: score lead so they can feel some comfort and then

731
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Speaker 1: they start running it and stuff. The Patriots did a

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Speaker 1: job of that, and she proved that's what pro coaches do.

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Speaker 1: So if you can't stop the run, you're gonna see it.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it is. And at every and every

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Speaker 1: team and every franchise in every city, no matter who

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Speaker 1: your quarterback is. And if you can't stop it, and

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Speaker 1: that starts, you're right down inside, close to the football.

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Speaker 1: I've been a big proponent of big guys on this team.

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00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: They need to dominate up there because all the skill

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Speaker 1: players they've got where they got, the guys around the

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Speaker 1: edges of the field. They got the safeties, the corners

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Speaker 1: when they were healthy, they had safeties, they had the corners,

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Speaker 1: they got the wide outs they got and they got

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and the tight end. Everything else is about

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Speaker 1: dominating inside, and that's where they need to do it.

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Speaker 1: And I know everybody gravitates to the offensive side of

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Speaker 1: the ball. Everybody's you know, up in arms about replenishing

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Speaker 1: the receiving core of this offseason, and there is a

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Speaker 1: place for that. I don't deny that it does exist.

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Speaker 1: But if you ask me, top three needs are all

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. Just from a

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00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: sheer number standpoint, you got six free agents on seven

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00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,360
Speaker 1: free agents on your defensive line, so and then you

754
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: have your number one corner coming off an ACL injury.

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00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: You have your number two corner who is a free agent,

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00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:22,919
Speaker 1: and you've got limited proven depth behind them. So to me,

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00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: it's corner, defensive tackle, defensive end. Those are your top

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00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 1: three needs before you even start talking about receiver. Right,

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00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: That's where I'm coming down, just from a sheer number standpoint. Yeah,

760
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: they lost their number two guy when with Emmanuel Sanders

761
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: he was on a one year deal. But then you've

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Speaker 1: got Gabe Davis who exploded onto the scene even in

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Speaker 1: the game. Mackenzie's a free agent, Okay, Yeah, and Kumearro

764
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 1: is too. You're losing some speed, you're losing some depth,

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00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 1: You're losing some special teams help with Kumearro and some

766
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: and some reps on offense. Yeah, there's a lot of

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00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: there's a lot of got contributors that are not on

768
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: the roster right now because of the contract situations. I

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Speaker 1: get that, but I'm with you, Brownie. You start as

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00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: close to the football as you can get. Centers, defensive

771
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: tackles on both sides, centers and guards and defensive tackles

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00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball. You need those guys.

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00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: That's where it starts, and then you work out from there.

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00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 1: And you know Ed Oliver really took a big step.

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00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people believe he took a

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00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: big step forward this year. Part of the reason was

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00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: because of the emergence of Harrison Phillips down to stretch

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00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: this season. Stretch, so that guy becomes a priority resign

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00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 1: because he's a free agent too, right, So I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: I think because of the number, just the sheer number

781
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: of contracts you've got that are up, you need bodies

782
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: and you don't just want blocking dummies. You gotta get

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00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: some guys that can go, and they are and they

784
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 1: they got some cap issues now. They're they're barely barely

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00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: at the cap right now. So they've got some work

786
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,839
Speaker 1: to do going forward, and it'll be interesting to see

787
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 1: how they handle it. Where we're taking more of your

788
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 1: phone calls in just a second, but we have to

789
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 1: take a break here, So John and Niagara Falls, Chris

790
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,960
Speaker 1: and California, Alan amer Is, Jessie and Buffalo Hank type.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to you when we return more of your

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00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: phone calls next here on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned.

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00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to One Bills Live. Let's jump

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Speaker 1: right back to the phones. Let go to John and

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Speaker 1: Niagara Falls next. Make out first John, Hey, gentlemen, how

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00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:45,240
Speaker 1: are you good? Good? Just quickly? I want a first second.

797
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: The thought of fits as back up. I think that

798
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: would be perfect. He's intelligent, he'd be a great guy

799
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: to get along with. Josh. That'd be good. And I

800
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: also wonder if i'd Sayah Hodgins is ready to play

801
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: and perhaps provide some need to depth at wide. Don't.

802
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: But my main thing is you touch on frequent or

803
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: freakish athletes. Jerome Davis, the defensive tackle, first round guy.

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00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: What are the six four three bigger? He's bigger than that, Yeah,

805
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis. Jordan Davis, He's bigger than six four boy.

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00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 1: Can you imagine a beast like him next to Ed

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00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,840
Speaker 1: Oliver setting out Oliver Louse, who was the guy in

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00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,439
Speaker 1: the nineties, the defensive tackleton, Ted Washington, Ted Washington, I'm

809
00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: like thinking, I'm dreaming maybe, but having a presence like that,

810
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: you can't really depend on Star. And I'm thinking this

811
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,760
Speaker 1: guy man rookie deal five years in there with Oliver

812
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 1: going crazy next to him, Oliver our own triple a

813
00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: version of Aaron Donald. What do you think, guys? Yeah,

814
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 1: I mean if we've talked out of bad thought, we've

815
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 1: talked about it, right. Um. I think the knock on

816
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis as many consider him a two down play

817
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: only because he is so massive, and while that would

818
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:07,800
Speaker 1: be of great value in the nineties when Ted Washington played,

819
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: nowadays with the propensity for teams to throw more on

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00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: furs down, to throw more in general, people openly wonder

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Speaker 1: about what his value is if he can only be

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Speaker 1: a two down player. The guy in the background of

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Speaker 1: the photo or MSG viewers are looking at right now

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Speaker 1: is the guy I'd prefer to have. His teammate, DeVante Wyatt,

825
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: who goes three hundred and fifteen pounds and his six

826
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 1: four and is so damn athletic that his defensive coordinator

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00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: had him spy quarterbacks at defensive tackle. You want a

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00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: more versatile athlete, you want his teammate DeVante Wyatt. You

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Speaker 1: want just a true two gap run plugger who doesn't

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Speaker 1: do a whole lot else. That's Jordan Davis, So I

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Speaker 1: guess its preference. Jordan Davis is limited in what he's

832
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: going to be able to ask a talented player, but

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00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 1: he's definitely Jordan Davis differently has some traits. I mean,

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00:45:59,600 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: he's six six, three hundred and forty estimated, which means

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00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 1: he's a little heavier than that. He's massively strong and

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Speaker 1: and you're right, your comparison to Ted Washington's very is valid.

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Speaker 1: And that's one of the reasons Ted Washington is not

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Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame right now. Every year of

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00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 1: his like seventeen years. Listen, the guy played seventeen years

840
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: at nose tackle. Ted did Ted or something. Every single

841
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,479
Speaker 1: year he was on a defense, it was a top

842
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:31,920
Speaker 1: five rushing defense. Every single year of his seventeen year career.

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Speaker 1: If he was a nose tackle or defensive tackle, they

844
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,720
Speaker 1: were a top five run defense. Barnett, but he couldn't

845
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: rush the passer, right, he could not rush the passer.

846
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: And that's why guys have a hard like you know,

847
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: the guys who vote in the Hall of Fame, great guys,

848
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: all of them. Um don't put him in the Hall

849
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: of because his numbers are not he looks defense. He

850
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: was viewed as a one dimensional defensive tackle. Right in

851
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: my mind, he is an absolute Hall Famed caliber player.

852
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: And that's what Ted was. That's what this and listen,

853
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: that's where you're looking at Jordan Davis. Yeah, big, huge, strong,

854
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,280
Speaker 1: impossible to run the ball on because you're always running

855
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,000
Speaker 1: around something. When he when the ball is snapped, he

856
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: moves the point of attack over in front of the

857
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,879
Speaker 1: ball care and the ball care he's got to stop

858
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:23,800
Speaker 1: and run around it. You know, you got two offensive

859
00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: linemen and Jordan Davis. There three enormous guys, and he's

860
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 1: moving towards the ball all the time. You can't stop him,

861
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: you can't single block him. It's all of that stuff.

862
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: The guy's just massive. So he's got some traits that

863
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 1: will translate into the NFL. Whether he can play three

864
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: downs is really the question is really the question, Well,

865
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: you could put him out there for three downs. The

866
00:47:47,480 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 1: question is how effective he's gonna be. He gonna help,

867
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 1: you know, and that kind of stuff. If you're playing

868
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: the Tennessee Titans and Derrick Henry, you're more than happy

869
00:47:55,480 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: to have him. But if you're playing the Rams, he

870
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: might be on the field for only two downs if that.

871
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: If you're playing the Bills, he's barely on the field

872
00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:09,799
Speaker 1: defensively for you, because the Bills throw on first down

873
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: more than anybody in the league the last two years.

874
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 1: So that's the question what is his value? And I

875
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: think different teams are going to have different value on

876
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: him because of the perception of what he can be.

877
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: Is he only a run stuffer for us, or do

878
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: you think he's athletic enough to be something more than that.

879
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 1: If there are teams out there that believe he can

880
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: be more than that, well then his value will be

881
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 1: higher on their boards. But for teams that look at

882
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: him and saying, I don't know, I mean, maybe he

883
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: can push the pocket, but he's really getting to the

884
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: quarterback all that much at this level when the ball's

885
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: out in two and a half seconds, I don't know.

886
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,759
Speaker 1: If he is so big and massive that he can

887
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: collapse the pocket quickly without any pass rush moves. He

888
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:56,759
Speaker 1: still has some value because there's gonna be on most

889
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: NFL teams three other guys that are pretty good pass rushers.

890
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,879
Speaker 1: So so if he's your final piece, he's your final piece,

891
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: and he's just there to soak up some blocks. They

892
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 1: got a double team him because they if they single

893
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: block him, he's he's bolt. You know, he just forklifts

894
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: the guard into the quarterback. Well, you know, they got

895
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 1: problems anyway. So if they have a center and a guard,

896
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: then everybody else is singled up. Yeah, and that's that's

897
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: where you want to be. But at this point, it

898
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: doesn't look like that's even you know, necessary at the

899
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: pro level, because you get pro level, you got better

900
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: guys playing against Yeah, and maybe one of those guys

901
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: can can anchor well enough to keep him from just

902
00:49:33,560 --> 00:49:36,759
Speaker 1: you know, walking to the quarterback. Let's squeeze, uh, Chris

903
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: and California in here? What do you got for us? Chris,

904
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: heymar and gentlemen, so you know, a few collars ago,

905
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: he was talking about drafting a cornerback. I know, you

906
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: can kind of go both ways. You know, you want

907
00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,360
Speaker 1: to go defensive line because if you have a defensive

908
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: line that can pressure the quarterback, then the secondary has

909
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,359
Speaker 1: more opportunities to make a play because you know, puts

910
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: a quarterback in the panic and it can make some

911
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 1: bad decisions. And if you have a good second area

912
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 1: allows the defensive line to you know, more time to

913
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 1: make a play. But Steve, you're talking about, you know,

914
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,760
Speaker 1: a cornerback. If there's somebody like six sixty three two fifteen,

915
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,879
Speaker 1: while there is a guy that declared for the draft

916
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,680
Speaker 1: from from University of Cincinnati, med Gardner. He's sixty three,

917
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 1: about two hundred pounds, and he had zero touchdowns allowed

918
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: in his over one thousand collegiate snaps and on defense,

919
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: and he has three touchdowns himself, so he's gotten more

920
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 1: touchdowns than he's actually given up. So what's the guy's names? Yeah,

921
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:37,959
Speaker 1: Gardner Sauce Gardner is his nickname. Unfortunately, unfortunately, he's gonna

922
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 1: be a top ten pick. I don't think the Bills

923
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: are gonna come within a sniff him. Yeah, he's gonna

924
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: be one of the top three corners taken out of

925
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: the draft. But you know, if he happens to be there,

926
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: or if he's close enough to possibly move up in

927
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,839
Speaker 1: the draft, I mean, I know, yeah, it could could

928
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,399
Speaker 1: not happen, but I mean, if he's there, and I'd

929
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: be a great guy to have, especially with you know

930
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 1: what we saw with r Davious going down and having

931
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:03,439
Speaker 1: a guy step into that number one wall. We need

932
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: somebody that could be ultra dependable. I mean, Levi did it.

933
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: You know, he did some justice, but you know, we

934
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 1: need a guy that that's a true, you know, possible

935
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: number one Yeah, yeah, yeah, Chris Sauce Gardner is no question.

936
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: Um but he's not gonna be available at twenty five.

937
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 1: And and I'm not an advocate of jumping up to

938
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: get one, particularly in this draft that is so deep

939
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 1: in corners. You'll be able to get a guy at

940
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: twenty five. And for whatever reason, who knows, Sauce Gardner

941
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 1: may fall, who knows, But even if he doesn't, you're

942
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: gonna it's like a little bit like wide out. So

943
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: the game is I get the feeling college, I mean,

944
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:47,399
Speaker 1: the pros the NFL has. You can say whatever you want.

945
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: You've probably all heard this. All people listening out there

946
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:52,799
Speaker 1: have heard people talk about on the radio how the

947
00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 1: NFL is a little bit more like college than it's

948
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:57,760
Speaker 1: ever been. He used to be it was very different.

949
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 1: You know, athletic quarterbacks, quarterbacks, the triple option, all that

950
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: stuff never played in the NFL. Well, now you've got

951
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 1: offenses in the college game that are much like the NFL,

952
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: and they use their quarterbacks a little bit more freely

953
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: than the NFL ever has. Now you've got guys like

954
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Kyler, Murray Paton Mahomes, even Russ Wilson, all

955
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: these guys, and Lamar Jackson obviously, all these guys that

956
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: play a different brand of football in the NFL, so

957
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: you're getting the games look alike. So now it looks

958
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: to me like the pro game in the college game

959
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:31,840
Speaker 1: are as close as they've ever been. It's at whatever

960
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: conference you happen to be looking at. You're getting some

961
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,360
Speaker 1: quality players who have been coached up in a pro style.

962
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,839
Speaker 1: So you're getting better corners. And we've all seen year

963
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,399
Speaker 1: after year after year beat neck deep and really good

964
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 1: white outs. You got these high school kids that are

965
00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 1: playing seven on seven in the offseason, the throwing game,

966
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks are coming out infinitely more polished than

967
00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 1: they ever did before. And I think the skilled players

968
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 1: that surround those seven on seven things like the corners

969
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,239
Speaker 1: and the safeties, the wide house, the tight ends are

970
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: all coming out way more polished than they ever have.

971
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:07,920
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have a chance, like I got, like

972
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: Sauce Gardner, there's gonna be more than him in this draft,

973
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:17,399
Speaker 1: but I get it guys like Gardner. Yeah, everybody wants one. Yeah,

974
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: everybody wants one. We got a break, Alan Amhurst, Jessing

975
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: and Buffalo Hank Tight You'll be first up after the

976
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: break is we take more of your phone calls in

977
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: our number two that's next here on one Bill's Live,

978
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: because anybody CALLI to health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio at

979
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: a Steve Tasker who has been all over the fields.

980
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: Kind of unique. He was kind of a dual role

981
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: fighters for Steve. Steve a blimp. We're not even in

982
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:05,240
Speaker 1: the strated beard of normalcy. Well. Steve Jasper was complimented

983
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: by a retired psychiatrist for properly getting in touch with

984
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and what he might be going through as

985
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: a person. Steve gave him the label of wild donkey,

986
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 1: and that might be more accurate than we ever imagine, because,

987
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,880
Speaker 1: as we have learned, the twelve day cleans that Aaron

988
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: Rodgers went on was the Poncha Karma cleans, and for

989
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: those of you that aren't familiar with it, I wasn't.

990
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:38,800
Speaker 1: It involves the following one three days of gey therapy,

991
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: which is a buttery. It's kind of an oily butter

992
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 1: that you can cook with among other things, but you

993
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: consume it until, as Aaron Rodgers put it, you evacuated

994
00:54:51,640 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: both ends. After three days of doing that, you do

995
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 1: a day of therapeutic vomiting, which I don't want to

996
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: know about. That's followed by a day of what's called

997
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: laxative therapy, three days of herb drops in the nose,

998
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: follow followed by many days of enemas, followed by yoga

999
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: and meditation. Throughout this process, all I'm gonna tell you

1000
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 1: is I would implode. How do you have anything left

1001
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 1: after the third day to do anything else on this list?

1002
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:32,680
Speaker 1: You know what? I think I'd retire if now I

1003
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: know why this guy doesn't have friends. He's spending half

1004
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:37,680
Speaker 1: the day in the bathroom. He evacuated both that what

1005
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:45,640
Speaker 1: are you a train? What do you do? I'm sitting

1006
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:50,239
Speaker 1: that one out. Wow, Oh, just you know what. No

1007
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: offense to the people in California. But that's behind. No

1008
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: offense to people in California. But that's as California as

1009
00:55:56,080 --> 00:56:01,840
Speaker 1: it comes. Wow, that is aggressive. I'm not cleansing myself

1010
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: in that way. Everything outside of a shower. Here's the

1011
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 1: thing too, to what end? Just to get rid of

1012
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:12,600
Speaker 1: what I don't know, toxins something. I mean, let'll tell

1013
00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: you what to get rid of your girlfriend. Now there

1014
00:56:14,480 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 1: are plumbers who don't clean pipes that well, how to

1015
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: get rid of unwanted friends? I'm telling you. That is aggressive.

1016
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: That'll cleanse your household. Man, No, you won't have anybody

1017
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: staying over the night that way. Do a better job

1018
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: than bleeding. No, No, let's get back to the phones

1019
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: under the guys a wild donkey. I told you were

1020
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: dead on with the wild donkey. He's a lame for

1021
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,799
Speaker 1: a reason. Let's get to the phones where people are

1022
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: waiting patiently. We go to Jesse and Buffalo next way. Yeah,

1023
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: first Jesse, Hey, guys, how you doing good? Hey? So, um,

1024
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,080
Speaker 1: ESPN have to stay with U if I'm not if

1025
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,319
Speaker 1: I'm not messing up. His name was Samcho and that's

1026
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: a big debate because he put Josh allen one as

1027
00:56:57,600 --> 00:57:00,319
Speaker 1: his best quarterback in the league, and my home did

1028
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: not make the list in the top five. So it

1029
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: made me wonder, like, for the for the best quarterback

1030
00:57:06,520 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 1: in the league, what do they look at when they

1031
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:10,799
Speaker 1: do MVP votes? And I know it's all voted, so

1032
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,319
Speaker 1: it's it's it's kind of hit or miss. But I

1033
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: kind of looked at the certain things around them. I

1034
00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 1: don't I think they take the wrong stats or statistics

1035
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: when they when they pick MVP and certain things. For example,

1036
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers one Aaron Rodgers had. I would say Adams

1037
00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:29,720
Speaker 1: was probably the best player on that team, not Aaron

1038
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: Rodgers like for them to move forward. Mahomes has a

1039
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame head coach, a Hall of fame fight

1040
00:57:36,200 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: in a running game, a way better old line, and

1041
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 1: the fastest receiver in the league. And I agree with

1042
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 1: him not making the top five because you have all

1043
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 1: of those things and you still didn't achieve what you

1044
00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 1: should have or what was estimated for you to achieve.

1045
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: Josh Allen doesn't have an old line. He is the

1046
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 1: run game. Um, I'm just I could go and too,

1047
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 1: like I'm not taking nothing from the players while Josh

1048
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: Allen or anything, but he doesn't have what my Homes has,

1049
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: which is why I would put him at top two

1050
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: B because he accomplished more with less. Even with the chieved,

1051
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 1: he didn't he didn't move that game. He had to

1052
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: depend on right one coaching and and it was just

1053
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: one mistake in a split second. So it's not like

1054
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:19,919
Speaker 1: the coach has been bad all year. That's all I'm saying.

1055
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 1: I just how the MVP voting goes into, like how

1056
00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:26,000
Speaker 1: they decide who's the best guy, and it's usually quarterback

1057
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 1: how to thee. Yeah, so so let us jump in here, Jesse,

1058
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: because I think you're you're you're bleeding over into areas

1059
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,320
Speaker 1: that aren't factors in the MVP voting. And what I

1060
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: mean by that is it's a regular season award. So

1061
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: when you're talking about Mahomes not reaching the ultimate goal

1062
00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 1: or anything like that doesn't factor into MVP voting. It

1063
00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 1: is a regular season award. It has nothing to do

1064
00:58:51,240 --> 00:58:55,280
Speaker 1: with playoff performance whatsoever. The guys on ESPN who are

1065
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: arguing the top five quarterbacks in the league, they're basing

1066
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: it on what happened yesterday. And the most recent thing

1067
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 1: that happened was Josh Allen took over the playoffs with

1068
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: some of the best quarterback play in a two game

1069
00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,000
Speaker 1: playoffs ban anybody's ever seen in their life. So that's

1070
00:59:08,040 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: why sam Acho has got him at the top of

1071
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 1: the list, and it doesn't have Patrick Mahomes on it

1072
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: in his top five, which to me doesn't make any sense.

1073
00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: To me, that's ridiculous. And believe me, I'm not a

1074
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,840
Speaker 1: fan of the Chiefs as much as anybody else here

1075
00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 1: in Buffalo. With what they've done to the Bills the

1076
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: last two years. But I have enough respect for Patrick

1077
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: Mahomes game to know that he should be in the

1078
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,560
Speaker 1: top three or four. So yeah, you're not have him

1079
00:59:28,560 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 1: in the top five is incorrect? Your questions, right, is valid? Jesse?

1080
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 1: What do they look at every It's a completely subjective

1081
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 1: opinion based on whatever statistics each individual guy wants to

1082
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: take seriously, and how much he's seen each quarterback play

1083
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: and which games he's watched of each quarterback play in

1084
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:52,080
Speaker 1: the regular season, and it's it's a total. There is

1085
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 1: no set criterious like because if they did, there would

1086
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: be no vote. It's opinion based because if they said, well, okay,

1087
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: it's the guy with the biggest QBR rating the fewest

1088
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,520
Speaker 1: turnovers about I thought, I thought they go down the list.

1089
01:00:06,560 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: If you go down the list, just any arbitrary list

1090
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:13,320
Speaker 1: of statistics, the winner becomes obvious. If if there's a

1091
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: threshold or a criterion. The criterion is what do you think, Jesse?

1092
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: And your opinion is just as valid as me or

1093
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 1: Brownie's or sam Acho's, And you're and Brownie's right. Some

1094
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:29,960
Speaker 1: of the guys on ESPN they're complete prisoners at the

1095
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: moment and they think this. You know, it's what he

1096
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: did yesterday, and that's how they're going to rank him.

1097
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,680
Speaker 1: Some of these guys think, well, Aaron Rodgers has won

1098
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,280
Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, even though it was twelve years ago,

1099
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,920
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put him ahead of this guy just

1100
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: because right or because he throws very few interceptions right

1101
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 1: in comparison to the other guys. So it and it

1102
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: they have. And right now we've said all this stuff

1103
01:00:50,280 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: about what these guys think about. None of us have

1104
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: said anything about other guys on their team. How much

1105
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 1: help does Pat Mahomes get? How much help does Aaron

1106
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers have? How much help does Josh Allen have? What

1107
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,439
Speaker 1: do they ask Josh Allen to do that? They will

1108
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,440
Speaker 1: never ask Aaron Rodgers to do? What do they ask

1109
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,000
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson do to do that? They never ask Josh

1110
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,080
Speaker 1: Allen to do? What can Josh Allen do that nobody

1111
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: else can? What can Mahomes? So it's all that stuff

1112
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: mixed into a pot, and the everybody who's a voter,

1113
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: and I don't know who, I couldn't tell you who

1114
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: they are. Everybody who's a voter just says that guy,

1115
01:01:23,320 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: that's my vote. That's as far as it goes, I think,

1116
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Some dig a little deeper. They accept that, you know,

1117
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: they respect the responsibility that they have in having an

1118
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: MVP vote. But some are rather arbitrary and just look

1119
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:38,160
Speaker 1: at some statistics, especially if they haven't caught any of

1120
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,080
Speaker 1: that player's games. When they talk to each other and

1121
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:44,560
Speaker 1: talking opinions and out of opinions, Yeah, that all happens.

1122
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 1: It all happens. So, as Steve said, it is a

1123
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:49,720
Speaker 1: very subjective process. But it is regular season based. It

1124
01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: is a regular season award, so what happens in the

1125
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 1: playoffs is immaterial, or at least it should be to

1126
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,800
Speaker 1: that voting. Let's go back to the phones into Alan

1127
01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:02,360
Speaker 1: Amhurst next. But yeah, first all, yes, how you doing good? Yeah,

1128
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: good gentlemen. I have a thought and I'd like to

1129
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:09,360
Speaker 1: hear what you have to say Tuberski to the Giants,

1130
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 1: and that's my thought. Yeah, I mean, thank you. It

1131
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: makes sense. You're connecting the dots. We get all of that.

1132
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, how committed are they to him? I think

1133
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: there is some measure of commitment to Daniel Jones to

1134
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: see if they can make it work there with Dabel

1135
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: as the quote unquote quarterback whisperer. Shall we say the

1136
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: thing to and what do you say, Well, why would

1137
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:34,240
Speaker 1: you want Trubisky there? Well, you had a year with him.

1138
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: You know what his game is like. You know how

1139
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: he thinks the game, how he looks at film, the

1140
01:02:38,960 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: kind of worker he is. You've called plays for him.

1141
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 1: You know what works for him and what doesn't within

1142
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:47,200
Speaker 1: the scope of your scheme. So there are inherent advantages there.

1143
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: As soon as he walks in the door, he knows

1144
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:54,120
Speaker 1: your scheme. But there is also the optics of acquiring

1145
01:02:54,120 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: somebody like Mitchell Trubisky, former second pick in the draft,

1146
01:02:57,240 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 1: former starting quarterback, had some success in Chicago despite all

1147
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: the drawbacks and negatives that that organization brings to the table.

1148
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 1: You bring that guy in and the New York media

1149
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 1: will spin it in ways that you can't even imagine.

1150
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,680
Speaker 1: You suit, the day they signed Trubisky is the day

1151
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:17,240
Speaker 1: they start counting the days that Daniel Jones is out

1152
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: the door. Is that the kind of atmosphere as a

1153
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: new head coach in New York that you want to create.

1154
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: After saying you want to see what Daniel Jones is

1155
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:31,480
Speaker 1: capable of, it rubs the whole situation raw to the

1156
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 1: point where you might deep six Daniel Jones before even

1157
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: steps on the field in your scheme. And those are

1158
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: things that coaches and general managers have to consider. And

1159
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:44,640
Speaker 1: I'll say this, when Brian Dabele took the job, that

1160
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:49,520
Speaker 1: question was already answered about Mitch Trubisky. It was either

1161
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: I get the feeling and I don't know this for

1162
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: a fact. It could be either way, thumbs up or

1163
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: thumbs down about Daniel Jones. Brian, what do you think

1164
01:03:57,680 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones thumbs up or thumbs down? And we

1165
01:04:00,240 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: do it or not? And Dayball had to have a

1166
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: definitive answer. He'll say, if you're gonna have him as

1167
01:04:04,600 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 1: your quarter because they'll have watched the film, and he'll say, either,

1168
01:04:08,440 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: if you're gonna have Daniel Jones your quarterback, you got

1169
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,840
Speaker 1: to have these other parts on your offense or your

1170
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 1: defense top notch. They got to be dominant or they're

1171
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, this is the situation where Daniel Jones can

1172
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 1: be successful. ABC and d have to be in place.

1173
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,919
Speaker 1: If you want me to win with Daniel Jones, that's

1174
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: what you gotta get me as a head coach, And

1175
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 1: or he might say the Giants might have said, listen,

1176
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:35,000
Speaker 1: we need to go forward with Daniel Jones. We gotta

1177
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: make it work somehow, some way, And Brian Dabele's gonna

1178
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: take or leave the job with that condition because they've

1179
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 1: got a lot of cash, A and assets and everything

1180
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 1: invested in Daniel Jones. They don't want to go back

1181
01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:51,560
Speaker 1: to square one, particularly this year with this draft. But

1182
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 1: if Brian Dabele comes in and says, listen, here's what

1183
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,360
Speaker 1: you need to do. If you hire me, I'm gonna

1184
01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: bring in a guy, some guys that I no can play,

1185
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna if if I know I can get

1186
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,960
Speaker 1: Mitch Drubisky to say yes to this job, because I'll

1187
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 1: give him a chance to compete, and I think he

1188
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: can compete with Daniel Jones, maybe beat him out. The Giants.

1189
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: Brass know that coming in, So those questions about miss

1190
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,600
Speaker 1: Rubisky to the Giants have already been answered inside their building.

1191
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: Don't know if we're ever going to be privy to that,

1192
01:05:21,920 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: but I would imagine since we have gotten absolutely no

1193
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, smoke to that fire, I would say it's

1194
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 1: probably not gonna happen. And I think what we've heard

1195
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: out of New York is then they're gonna go forward

1196
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,800
Speaker 1: with Daniel Jones. I don't think they're gonna bring a

1197
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 1: guy like Mitch Drubisky in that situation, and Mitch Drubisky

1198
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: won't say yes, He's not gonna go over there and

1199
01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:44,720
Speaker 1: be another backup. He's gonna go someplace because there's plenty

1200
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:46,280
Speaker 1: of places that will bring him in say yeah, you

1201
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 1: can compete with for our starting job. Go ahead, we

1202
01:05:49,040 --> 01:05:50,959
Speaker 1: got we'd love to have you. And that's and that's

1203
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:54,000
Speaker 1: my point too, because I think there will be better

1204
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: opportunities for him to start elsewhere where. There isn't an

1205
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: answer at all at the position right now, and everybody

1206
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,919
Speaker 1: walking in the door will be new and it will

1207
01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: be a level playing field. In New York, I still

1208
01:06:10,160 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: think the preference is to make Daniel Jones work. So

1209
01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: even though you'd walk in the door and know the

1210
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:19,160
Speaker 1: system like the back of your hand, you're still second

1211
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 1: fiddle at the end of the day. I mean, we

1212
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: heard John Mayer, the owner of the Giants, say we've

1213
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,479
Speaker 1: screwed up Daniel Jones every which way to Sunday, it's

1214
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: time to get him. Good answers to me that says

1215
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: we will. We still want to try to make it

1216
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: work with Daniel Jones. If I'm Mitchell Trubisky, I'm saying

1217
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:36,680
Speaker 1: to myself, I can probably find a better opportunity to

1218
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,880
Speaker 1: start somewhere else this year. I can say too, Carolina

1219
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,240
Speaker 1: and Denver. Both those clubs would be interested in Bran

1220
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 1: Washington's another one. It's three top candidates for brand new quarterback.

1221
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's a third. So there's three clubs right there.

1222
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay with playoff aspirations, no doubt about it, Denver

1223
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,680
Speaker 1: with a top defense or at least up until last year,

1224
01:07:01,720 --> 01:07:08,440
Speaker 1: the weapons on offense. And Carolina. Who if I'm missed Trubisky,

1225
01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,200
Speaker 1: if I can't start for Carolina coming in and competing

1226
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 1: on a flat level playing field, You're backup for another

1227
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,880
Speaker 1: one at you. Huh, I'm gonna throw another one at you.

1228
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:21,520
Speaker 1: What do you think about Pittsburgh. That's another one. Trubisky

1229
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:23,800
Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, he's better in Mason Rudolf and better than

1230
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. Absolutely, Yeah, you're right, that's another one. And

1231
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:29,959
Speaker 1: I've always I know you keep wanting to send Aaron

1232
01:07:30,040 --> 01:07:32,720
Speaker 1: Rodgers there. Yeah, but given the conversation we've been having

1233
01:07:32,760 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: for the first hour of the show on Aaron Rodgers,

1234
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:37,360
Speaker 1: I guess that's probably a pipe dream. And even we

1235
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:40,400
Speaker 1: had a DT king Kabala on yesterday and that seemed

1236
01:07:40,440 --> 01:07:41,800
Speaker 1: to come out of the blue a little bit for her,

1237
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:44,479
Speaker 1: like A really say, Daron Ronnie, Like they got cap

1238
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 1: space and they got a head coach that I think

1239
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has a lot of respect for. And they've

1240
01:07:49,360 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: got a lot of cachet around players. I mean, when

1241
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 1: you're playing at the quarterback of the Pittsburgh Steelers, Aaron

1242
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,920
Speaker 1: Rodgers would change the expectations of that entire division immediately.

1243
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: And I think they could sign Aaron Rodgers or trade

1244
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 1: for Aaron Rodgers and still have enough cap room to

1245
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 1: supplement that roster enough, and he'd give him a chance,

1246
01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,440
Speaker 1: and I think they would very be very amenable to

1247
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 1: that give him. And I think Aaron Rodgers still got

1248
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: what three four years left in him. That guy's playing.

1249
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:21,000
Speaker 1: He's the NBA bill turn thirty eight before the season starts.

1250
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't care, YEA that in this day and age,

1251
01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 1: with the amount of hits, he doesn't take that guy.

1252
01:08:28,160 --> 01:08:30,759
Speaker 1: That guy can play another four years easily, I think.

1253
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: And that's that's a nice stretch for the Pittsburgh team.

1254
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:36,320
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta think you can get you're gonna

1255
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:40,880
Speaker 1: have a shot at the ring again within those four years. Well,

1256
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: I mean they have talented receivers. They still have a

1257
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: pretty good defense, and I mean I do, but they

1258
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 1: got a defensive Player of the Year and and TJ

1259
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,200
Speaker 1: What Devin Bush and Minka Fitzpatrick. I mean, you got

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Speaker 1: prime time players. You're not that far off. You drop

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Speaker 1: a quarterback in there that's capable and v PEE caliber

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01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,200
Speaker 1: like at Rogers, you're really going to places. But even

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01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: with Trubisky, I think he could be a playoff team, right,

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01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:10,360
Speaker 1: so there will be So to answer your question, al,

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01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he goes to the Giants provided those

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01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:17,360
Speaker 1: other opportunities to truly start right away are out there,

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01:09:17,400 --> 01:09:19,680
Speaker 1: because I think in the grand scheme of things, they

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01:09:19,720 --> 01:09:21,799
Speaker 1: want to go at least one more year with Daniel

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01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,439
Speaker 1: Jones to see if they can make it work. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think the Giants are. They're gonna.

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01:09:27,560 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones is the guy in New York

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,960
Speaker 1: and they're gonna make it go or not go with

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01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:40,240
Speaker 1: him first And I'll say this, and I'll say this,

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01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 1: and maybe Brian Dable said this exact same thing. And listen,

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01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: if I can't save Daniel Jones, he can't be saved

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01:09:46,400 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: and it won't be my fault. So we'll make it

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01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 1: go with him, and I'll do the best I can.

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01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: If he comes through, he's gonna you're gonna have an

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01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 1: elite quarterback and he's gonna be really good. If not,

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01:09:55,960 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 1: he was never the guy to begin with. So I mean, no,

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01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: name a guy who's got a better quarterback resume of

1282
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: developing guys than Brian day Ball right now that you

1283
01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:12,320
Speaker 1: can think of Andy Reid. Probably not. Donovan McNabb was

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01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:14,240
Speaker 1: a pretty good player. He's good, and then he had

1285
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, who who he left and brought Maholmes in.

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01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: He certainly can recognize it, but Mahomes is Mahomes. I

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01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: think Andy Reid might be on that list with day Ball.

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01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:29,559
Speaker 1: Who else? Who else is like Bruce Arians has had

1289
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 1: success with a lot of quarterbacks in the league, But

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,160
Speaker 1: there's some of the all timers. How much was that

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01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:36,320
Speaker 1: development and how much was that just shepherding. That's up

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01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:40,799
Speaker 1: for debate. Getting Tom Brady, he's had both of them, yeah,

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01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:43,920
Speaker 1: and Carson Palmer and Roethlisberger, right, you know, he's worked

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01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: with all of those. Okay, I gotta put I gotta

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01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:48,519
Speaker 1: put day Ball in there. Think about it. Josh Allen

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01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:52,200
Speaker 1: was a punchline for a lot of people. He was

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01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 1: a project. He was a project. He was very polarizing.

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01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: People said had all the belief in the world in him,

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01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: and they were like he was a joke. And of

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01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:03,040
Speaker 1: course now he's elite. UM, so that's dab Dable is

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01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: also a guy who won a national championship with Ta

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:13,040
Speaker 1: Town of Ioloa. That's pretty good. There's openings. I think

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01:11:13,080 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna be looking at a place where he can

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01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:19,439
Speaker 1: genuinely compete for a starting job. I just don't get

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01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: the sense that that's that's gonna happen. I don't need

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01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:26,320
Speaker 1: I don't need the Trabisky. I think at this point

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01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 1: is out there, his representations out there, and they're they're

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01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: beating the bushes there. I think he falls with Carolina, Washington, Denver,

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01:11:35,720 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. I don't think he cares which conference or anything.

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01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: Why would he? I think the I think the Tampa

1311
01:11:41,560 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: Bay Carolina division seems ripe right now with Atlanta, New Orleans,

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01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:54,880
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay and Carolina. That is a quarterback desert. Matt

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01:11:55,000 --> 01:11:58,800
Speaker 1: Ryan is the guy, right, But he's thirty seven next year, right,

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01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:01,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, how many years does he have left? Let's

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01:12:01,720 --> 01:12:03,880
Speaker 1: go back to the phones. We go to Mike and Buffalo. Next.

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Speaker 1: We got first, Mike, Hey, Steve, there was a question

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01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you the other day and I

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01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,280
Speaker 1: didn't get time to get in. Or actually two questions,

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01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 1: the first one being how important is it to keep

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01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie on the roster? And second would it be

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01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:23,080
Speaker 1: more important right now to keep the team in the

1322
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:25,000
Speaker 1: same way or would it be more important to make

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01:12:25,040 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: some changes. Here's the thing. You need either either a

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01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,880
Speaker 1: Isaiah McKenzie or someone as good or better, because I

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01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,799
Speaker 1: think his speed is a different dimension, and he played

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01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:38,760
Speaker 1: very well when he got the opportunity to go out

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:42,719
Speaker 1: and contribute. I think I think there was a points

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01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: in this season there was a little bit of sour

1329
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 1: taste his mouth. Sean McDermott wanted to see some things

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01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 1: from Isaiah McKenzie. This coaching staff did, and he had her.

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01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: I mean he got benched. Remember he was inactive for

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01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 1: a game and then came back and had the huge

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,799
Speaker 1: game against New England and he duced in the playoffs.

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01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,320
Speaker 1: I mean the guy was the guy was good. When

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01:13:02,360 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 1: they called on him, he answered the bell. It'll be

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01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,720
Speaker 1: interesting to see what they say about him and what

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01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,920
Speaker 1: they think about him going forward. But yes, I think

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01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:12,240
Speaker 1: they do need Isaiah McKenzie to resign him. It'd be

1339
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:16,519
Speaker 1: great if they don't. They need a guy like him.

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01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:19,160
Speaker 1: So I'm not married to Isaiah McKenzie, but I'm married

1341
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,720
Speaker 1: to that skill set. A fast guy who can run

1342
01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 1: routes and get open and catch. I mean, he did

1343
01:13:23,800 --> 01:13:25,679
Speaker 1: a really nice joy. I think he surprised a lot

1344
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: of people with his ability to play wide out when

1345
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,920
Speaker 1: he got the chance this year. And the second thing

1346
01:13:30,960 --> 01:13:34,960
Speaker 1: is standing Pattick. Listen, you can't stand Pat in the NFL.

1347
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 1: It sounds good and I've seen other teams doing. You

1348
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: don't stand Pat. You're trying to get better. You bring

1349
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,599
Speaker 1: in new guys, guys with different skill sets, guys that

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01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: are different, guys that are hungry, guys that want to

1351
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: get better, Guys that are committed to getting better. You

1352
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: want to get better, and you can't do that stay

1353
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 1: in the same with your roster or in your own mindset.

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01:13:57,479 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: So this is a team that's gonna do everything they

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01:13:59,640 --> 01:14:03,639
Speaker 1: can to stir their roster up, bring in some new

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01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:05,600
Speaker 1: players who are hungry and want to be part of

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01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 1: a winning organization, and that's what's going to happen. So

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01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm I'm for that. I think that's certainly it'd be

1359
01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: nice to run it back and have all the same

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01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 1: guys back and all that, but it doesn't work like that.

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01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:22,200
Speaker 1: So every team is different. Every year is different, even

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01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 1: in the most stable organizations. Yeah, we will take a

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01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,400
Speaker 1: break here when we come back more of your phone

1364
01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 1: calls at eight oh three, five fifty as we ask

1365
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: you where you wanted to see the quarterback carousel go.

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01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:38,720
Speaker 1: We will take a break and be back with more.

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Speaker 1: You're on One Bills Live, presented by Kelli to Health.

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01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:56,840
Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to one Bills Live.

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01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: Chris Brown caneve cast through a few times to get

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills, for your thoughts on how you want to

1373
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:13,360
Speaker 1: see the NFL quarterback carousel play out this offseason and why.

1374
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:18,760
Speaker 1: And we begin with Jr. Who says Turbo to Minnesota,

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01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 1: Rogers stays Russ to Arizona, kirk Cousins to Tampa and

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01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray to the Giants. To be totally honest, I

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01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 1: don't care because Josh will be in Buffalo for a while.

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01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:32,679
Speaker 1: That's really where That's where Bills fans come down. That's

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01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 1: a lot of movement, probably more than I think we

1380
01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:38,479
Speaker 1: would all anticipate. Although the Kyler Murray stuff is really

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01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:44,120
Speaker 1: cryptic out there in Arizona. He claims it's nothing and whatever,

1382
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: but it just it just strikes me as strange. It's

1383
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to see what happens out there. And

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01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:52,880
Speaker 1: then the Russell Wilson thing in Seattle, is that truly done?

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01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:55,400
Speaker 1: I tend to think it is. But where does he land?

1386
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins do they want to move on from him

1387
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 1: in Minnesota? It's it's tricky. It's gonna be hard to call.

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01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,639
Speaker 1: Turbo is who. I really don't know. I'm not sure

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01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: who that might maybe Taysom Hill, I'm not sure. I'm

1390
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:15,799
Speaker 1: not going to pretend to know either. Wandering Jack says

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01:16:16,320 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: keep Rogers out of the AFC plays. Also, I hope

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01:16:19,439 --> 01:16:22,040
Speaker 1: and pray daily that the Pittsburgh Steelers won't wander the

1393
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: QB Desert for a while. I'm sick of him. Hope

1394
01:16:24,520 --> 01:16:26,760
Speaker 1: Watson is not allowed to play in twenty twenty two

1395
01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,160
Speaker 1: for all of his off field problems. After that, I

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01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: think the Bills are in great shape with seventeen at

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01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:36,040
Speaker 1: the helm. There's an interesting one from JT. We lost

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01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:38,160
Speaker 1: from and Webb. If we lose Mitch, who would be

1399
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 1: a reliable backup QB? Maybe bring back fits Magic or

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01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: bring back the drought breaker Tyrod. Don't draft a QB.

1401
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:48,479
Speaker 1: We need experience, maybe even Mariota if Josh goes down,

1402
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:50,680
Speaker 1: which I hope never happens. He's tough, but you never know.

1403
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 1: I think Mariota's got a chance to start somewhere in

1404
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: the league. I don't think he's gonna be a backup

1405
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:59,240
Speaker 1: somewhere else. He might, he might get a chance. People

1406
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: like him, I know not. Oh, he's a great dude.

1407
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,040
Speaker 1: He's a phenomenal He's a phenomenal player. I I think

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01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 1: Mariota strikes me as a voluntary BACKUPKA meaning I don't

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01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 1: think he wants to be a starter. Oh, A willing

1410
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: back up, A willing back. I think he sees himself

1411
01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:24,800
Speaker 1: as a backup. I think he acts and likes that

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01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 1: he likes that role better than being a starter. I

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01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: think when he was at Tennessee when they drafted him

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01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:34,559
Speaker 1: so high. Um, he's a quiet kid, very thoughtful, real,

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01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:38,200
Speaker 1: real sharp, I mean, just total, total family, you know,

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01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: just a great kid man. It's just awesome. And I

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01:17:41,360 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: don't think he wants the mantle of being the face

1418
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 1: of the franchise. Yeah, I think he likes that rule,

1419
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 1: but he likes being there for a guy who is

1420
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: under that pressure like Derek Carr. Uh. But I could

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01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:59,120
Speaker 1: be wrong. I'm this is a from a million miles away. Um,

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01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,400
Speaker 1: I'm I talk to the guy when he right after

1423
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,400
Speaker 1: he got drafted. I was still doing the CBS thing,

1424
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: and I you know, had a you know, production meetings

1425
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 1: with him and spoke to him on a couple of occasions.

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01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 1: And so I have very little experience with him, but

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01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,760
Speaker 1: from his actions and his persona and what I saw

1428
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: and heard about after he signed with Las Vegas, I

1429
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,280
Speaker 1: just know he's a guy that You're right. He would

1430
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 1: be great here in Buffalo. He would be great here.

1431
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: He would really help Josh. He's the right kind of

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01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: Guy's got enough experience, got some talent, you know. Um,

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01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,800
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's one of those guys that says, hey,

1434
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:41,519
Speaker 1: bring on the challenge. He's not eating nails for breakfast,

1435
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,080
Speaker 1: I guess is what you're saying. I don't think so. Yeah,

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01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 1: i'd be wrong, but I have been crape guy. Yeah, okay,

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01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:56,000
Speaker 1: that's fair. Elsewhere on the treat tweet, cheet Renee says,

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01:18:56,080 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: I would love to see Fitzpatrick Beck. I think he

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01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 1: would come for a reasonable salary. After all, he started

1440
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 1: his career here. Actually he started in Cincinnati seventh round

1441
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:06,599
Speaker 1: draft choice. And what other QB goes to his old

1442
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 1: team for a playoff game. Well, I mean, Fitz has

1443
01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,720
Speaker 1: pulled no punches in saying that his most enjoyable time

1444
01:19:12,720 --> 01:19:15,320
Speaker 1: as a player was when he was playing in Buffalo. Here,

1445
01:19:15,439 --> 01:19:17,880
Speaker 1: we should remind everybody he was a full time starter

1446
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:21,080
Speaker 1: for the better part of three seasons, so that was

1447
01:19:21,120 --> 01:19:24,559
Speaker 1: also part of the allure and probably one of the

1448
01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:26,680
Speaker 1: reasons that Fitz enjoyed himself as much as he did.

1449
01:19:26,680 --> 01:19:29,400
Speaker 1: He didn't have to deal with too much quarterback competition

1450
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: garbage as he has in other places. Do you want

1451
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,800
Speaker 1: Fits to be back here, here's what you do. All

1452
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: those people locally who knew Fits when he was living

1453
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:40,800
Speaker 1: in the neighborhood, all his friends, all the guys he

1454
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 1: went to the game with this last January. Had those

1455
01:19:42,920 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 1: kids reach out to his kids, tell his kids to

1456
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: tell him let's go back to Buffalo for a year. Yeah,

1457
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:51,200
Speaker 1: come on, dad, that's where you want to have his

1458
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 1: kids get after him. I'd before this. Kids love it here.

1459
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,080
Speaker 1: That's how you got to do. If you want Brian Fitzpatrick.

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01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,240
Speaker 1: If Brandon Bean wants Ryan Fitzpatrick is a backup call

1461
01:20:00,280 --> 01:20:03,559
Speaker 1: of kids and get on the phone and tell him

1462
01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:06,200
Speaker 1: to pester their dad and to sign it with Buffaloes.

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01:20:06,240 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: That'll work good. He's got listen. He has got a

1464
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 1: lot to offer. He's a national treasurer um, sharp as attack,

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01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:17,320
Speaker 1: he is very he's extremely intelligent, knows a lot of football.

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Speaker 1: He knows how to handle a quarterback room, and he

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Speaker 1: knows what he's looking at when he's he'll help on

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Speaker 1: game day. And let's face it, you need that, you

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01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:28,759
Speaker 1: need all. Everybody's got to be firing on all cylinders

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01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:31,960
Speaker 1: when the ball kicks off for real. And Fits is

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Speaker 1: an asset. When he's standing there watching the game, he

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01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:37,680
Speaker 1: Josh comes off. Fits can say hey, A, B and

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01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 1: C and you know it'll help, that's what you need.

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01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: And he's also comes from a voice instead of coming

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01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:46,720
Speaker 1: from a guy like Brian Dabile or or you know, uh,

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01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot or whoever, Brian or Ken Dorsey. One of

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01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: the players comes over, Hey, bro, you can throw the out.

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01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,760
Speaker 1: Throw the out. You know they're doing this, they're doing that,

1479
01:20:56,960 --> 01:21:00,479
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It's a different voice. Uh, And

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01:21:00,560 --> 01:21:05,479
Speaker 1: it's it's it's enormously helpful. And I'm sure Trubisky was

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01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,760
Speaker 1: like that this last year. He sees things. You know,

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01:21:07,760 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 1: he's been around. Um. Having that guy is like having

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01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 1: an extract, an extract voice for the coaching staff who

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01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:20,280
Speaker 1: is also for the guy Josh in this case. Yeah,

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01:21:20,560 --> 01:21:24,120
Speaker 1: he's for him, and he's always there and positive and

1486
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 1: has some insight and sees things the way the guy

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,160
Speaker 1: pulling the trigger sees it. And he also knows what

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01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 1: the coaches want. So it's just a great liaison. That's

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01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: what a quarterback coach is designed to be. The backup

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01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,599
Speaker 1: role before he knows it all too well. He knows

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01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:40,920
Speaker 1: what that role is about. Yeah, if you can't, I

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01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:42,559
Speaker 1: think it's I think it's awesome. I don't know what

1493
01:21:42,600 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 1: Fitz has left in the tank physically, I really don't,

1494
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 1: but I know this came off a bad injury last year.

1495
01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:51,800
Speaker 1: It right, If if he does have something in the

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01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,760
Speaker 1: tank to give, hopefully, then you we never see him

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01:21:54,760 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: except to come in and kneel down in the super Bowl.

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01:21:59,720 --> 01:22:05,280
Speaker 1: If that's the case, then yeah, that's the guy. Yeah, yeah,

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01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,559
Speaker 1: I agree. I totally agree. He's the exact and he's

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01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,679
Speaker 1: stereotypically the guy you're looking for. An incredibly long tenured vet,

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01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:16,679
Speaker 1: gonna eighteen eight teams he's been on yeah or nine maybe,

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01:22:16,960 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 1: and so you know, he's got a wealth of experience

1503
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,559
Speaker 1: with different coaches. It's just exactly what you want. But

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01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 1: you know there's a reason he's available right as a

1505
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: backup though, he'd be great. Yeah, let's go back to

1506
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,000
Speaker 1: the phones. We go to Nick in Rochester next. What

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01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 1: do you got Nick? Hey, guys, how are you doing today? Good? Good? Um,

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01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,640
Speaker 1: just to one of the piggyback off of what you

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01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:41,120
Speaker 1: guys are saying earlier and just good, what do you

1510
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 1: guys thought? I know, Daniel Jones is his last year

1511
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: of his contracts here. I think he's only like five

1512
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,639
Speaker 1: millioners so and then not to spend them as to

1513
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 1: be like another twenty million. Um, do you think that

1514
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: will happen? Effects on to this she possibly going over there?

1515
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: How much do you think that's being phone over there?

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01:22:58,360 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: And how much things can sign for it? Yeah, I

1517
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,360
Speaker 1: mean it's I think where they are at the quarterback

1518
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,360
Speaker 1: position is in a little bit of a quandary. But

1519
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,240
Speaker 1: knowing that the draft class at quarterback isn't strong, certainly

1520
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 1: not something that would replace Daniel Jones on day one

1521
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,120
Speaker 1: in this year's class, combined with the fact that they

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01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:19,679
Speaker 1: have an opportunity here to try it for a year.

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01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:22,280
Speaker 1: This is Brian Dable's gimme year, his first year on

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01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,080
Speaker 1: the job. You know, that's when all the people are like,

1525
01:23:25,160 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 1: all right, let's give him a little bit of time, this, that,

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01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:30,400
Speaker 1: and the other. That's your year to find out can

1527
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:32,960
Speaker 1: you win with Daniel Jones or not? Did they really

1528
01:23:33,000 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: screw him up every which way possible as John Mauer

1529
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: and the owner has indicated, And can I really, you know,

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01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:43,320
Speaker 1: make some progress with this guy. I will say this,

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01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,599
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones has as an above average arm. He is

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01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:50,840
Speaker 1: underrated as an athlete. You've seen him, he can run.

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01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: Underrated as an athlete, and he's a smart guy. I

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01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: think Brian Dabele feels he can work with that and

1535
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 1: see what he can get out of it. Now, I

1536
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 1: think he wants to give him this year see where

1537
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:06,559
Speaker 1: they can go with him, and if they feel that

1538
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 1: it's not coming together in the fashion that they had hoped,

1539
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:12,439
Speaker 1: they move on and it's no skin off their nose

1540
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:14,439
Speaker 1: because he's in the last year of his rookie contract.

1541
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: Now come. I mean, they didn't exercise the fifty year

1542
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,040
Speaker 1: option last year, so that's not something they got to

1543
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:26,280
Speaker 1: concern themselves with. So there you are. I mean, to me,

1544
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:28,880
Speaker 1: it's a perfect scenario. See if you can win with him.

1545
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 1: If you can't, you're not strapped with some dead cap

1546
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: contract and you turn the page and you find somebody else.

1547
01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: I don't think that means you bring in Trubisky now

1548
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,000
Speaker 1: to do that. And again I maintain this is more

1549
01:24:43,040 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 1: about the decision Trubisky wants to make than it is

1550
01:24:46,240 --> 01:24:48,920
Speaker 1: about what the Giants would prefer to do. Ruby is

1551
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 1: going to have better opportunities elsewhere, right, Trubisky is gonna

1552
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 1: have some options. If it turns out that the Giants

1553
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 1: is the best one, Yeah, he'll go. But I think

1554
01:24:56,439 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: he's gonna have much better options than the New York

1555
01:24:58,479 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 1: Giants with Daniel Jones on the last nest year of

1556
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:07,120
Speaker 1: his rookie deal with them. With them, absolutely, you know,

1557
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:11,880
Speaker 1: they're burning incense hoping he's the guy. I mean, they're like,

1558
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 1: they're like, they're they're doing the clans that Rogers is

1559
01:25:16,640 --> 01:25:19,679
Speaker 1: doing right now, doing Gregorian Chance. That's they're doing. They're

1560
01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:23,680
Speaker 1: doing the pan charc Pancha Karma cleans. I don't know

1561
01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:26,080
Speaker 1: if they're doing that. Yeah, if they thought that Brian

1562
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: Dable like we do, I highly doubt he's doing that, right,

1563
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: So they really wanted to work with Daniel Jones so

1564
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: they don't have to go into quarterback purgatory again. So yeah,

1565
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Mitch Drubisky wants any part of that

1566
01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:42,160
Speaker 1: scenario because ego back ego in New York can be

1567
01:25:42,200 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 1: a trying to beat out. You're in a cauldron and

1568
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,439
Speaker 1: you're gonna be pitted against Daniel Jones every single It

1569
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 1: would be worse than Chicago, and that's saying something. And

1570
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: that was bad in Chicago for a year for him.

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01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 1: All Right, we gotta take a break here, but Steve

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01:25:56,040 --> 01:25:57,680
Speaker 1: and I will close it up some final thoughts on

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01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 1: the tweet sheet from you. Next here on One Bill's Lives,

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01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:14,400
Speaker 1: Buy Colloid to Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right,

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01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,120
Speaker 1: welcome back One Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you.

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01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: One more comment on the tweet sheet here from John,

1577
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:24,040
Speaker 1: who says, I'm okay with Rogers going to Denver. I

1578
01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:26,960
Speaker 1: think with Mahomes, Herbert and car already in the AFC West,

1579
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 1: they'll be beating up on one another and that opens

1580
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: the door a little wider for Buffalo to win the

1581
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 1: AFC Denver. I just don't see Rogers there. Nick says,

1582
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: I hope Mitch Drubisky finds a team to start on.

1583
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:39,880
Speaker 1: He's better than some starting qbs and as a winning

1584
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:44,679
Speaker 1: record as a starter. Finally, LeBaron says, get a quality backup.

1585
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,559
Speaker 1: It's definitely worth the investment. Just keep those guys out

1586
01:26:47,560 --> 01:26:50,599
Speaker 1: of the AFC. The quarterbacks on the move that is. Yeah,

1587
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:52,599
Speaker 1: we don't need any more quarterbacks in the AFC, that's

1588
01:26:52,600 --> 01:26:55,000
Speaker 1: for sure, Steve. I was looking at the free agent

1589
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:59,360
Speaker 1: quarterback list. It is precariously thin even for a backup

1590
01:26:59,439 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 1: if you need one. If you can't get Ryan Fitzpatrick,

1591
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,879
Speaker 1: you know it would be an interesting one. Andy Dalton.

1592
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:10,360
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is just like him. Yeah, um, he and

1593
01:27:10,520 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 1: he would be a yeah, I like it. Um, just

1594
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:17,760
Speaker 1: like fits. He sees everything, knows you know, sees the

1595
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,920
Speaker 1: field a lot of a lot of experience, still plays

1596
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: good football. I think he's underrated as a thrower. Um, yeah,

1597
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:29,639
Speaker 1: that's I like that too. Yeah, he could be player.

1598
01:27:29,800 --> 01:27:31,880
Speaker 1: You could do a lot worse than him, I think. Yeah,

1599
01:27:31,920 --> 01:27:35,479
Speaker 1: the red Um some other names on the list. We

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01:27:35,520 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 1: already had one of our people on the tweet. She'd

1601
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:42,160
Speaker 1: mentioned tyrod Um, the drought breaker, if you will. But

1602
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,000
Speaker 1: it gets pretty thin pretty fast, Steve. I mean you're

1603
01:27:45,000 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 1: talking about the Trevor Simeons of the world. Gino Smith,

1604
01:27:48,560 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 1: Joe Flacco, Blaine Gabberton, Cold McCoy wouldn't be terrible, Um,

1605
01:27:54,400 --> 01:28:00,759
Speaker 1: Mike Lennon, Chad Henny, Josh Rosen, AJ mccaren good lord man.

1606
01:28:01,479 --> 01:28:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean you see the problem that surfaces pretty quickly here. Yeah. Yeah, Um,

1607
01:28:07,800 --> 01:28:13,320
Speaker 1: it's slim pickings. But we'll see I mean, there's there's

1608
01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:17,639
Speaker 1: plenty of bodies out there. We'll see you at this point,

1609
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:21,879
Speaker 1: which kind of sorry his bills fantasy Davis Webb leave, Yeah,

1610
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: you know that kind of because he's a good coach.

1611
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:28,439
Speaker 1: He's a good coach, player, player, coach, right, Um, but

1612
01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,200
Speaker 1: that's kind of what you're looking for for a Bill's

1613
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:32,960
Speaker 1: back up and as a player like that. But you

1614
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: know you're talking about the Bill's backup quarterback. There's about

1615
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:39,960
Speaker 1: two dozen things that are above that on the priority

1616
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: list for this offseason. And when you get down to that, um,

1617
01:28:43,120 --> 01:28:45,680
Speaker 1: it's strictly a cherry on top of the cake. If

1618
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: you get a guy you like, Yeah, I mean, Mitchell

1619
01:28:51,200 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: Trubisky was a luxury last year. I think we all

1620
01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 1: have to wrap our heads. We never had to use him, right,

1621
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 1: and we all have to wrap our heads around that

1622
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: fact that to think we're gonna do as good this year,

1623
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: I think I think that might be Brandon Bean's toughest task.

1624
01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:09,160
Speaker 1: He's gonna make improvements to this roster. Don't get me wrong,

1625
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:12,600
Speaker 1: but topping a Mitchell Trubisky caliber player at quarterback to

1626
01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,479
Speaker 1: beat your backup, that's gonna be a tough one to

1627
01:29:15,479 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 1: the top. We'll see how he does. He's gonna get

1628
01:29:17,479 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: somebody in here, we know that, a veteran presumably, so

1629
01:29:20,040 --> 01:29:22,639
Speaker 1: it'll be interesting among the other moves that this team

1630
01:29:22,640 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 1: has to make for Steve. I'm Chris. We'll see you

1631
01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:31,640
Speaker 1: tomorrow at one